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Competitiveness depends on age. At the end of the day, anyone can compete in track and work to beat their personal bests and improve over time. To be competitive, though, is a different question. It's impossible to say because it depends entirely on age, location, who else is in the meet, etc. if you want to start competing, you should just find competitions and go from there in my opinion. No need to be "competitive" or run any specific times first

Thanks a lot for the kind words!

Sure thing! And they're both incredibly fast. Not in any way implying you shouldn't run any mileage. I just think earlier in an athlete's career, it is easy to get focused on mileage and never develop speed. You can have all the endurance in the world and if you can't break 50 in the 400 you probably won't ever be a world class 800m runner

I'm very glad it was helpful!

Long runs, tempo runs, and tempo intervals as well as more typical intervals (you might say "lactate tolerance" [ex 8-10 x 200m @ 800m pace 2-3m rest] and "lactate production" [ repeats of 300-600m at 90+% with long rests]) are all totally fine. The point is not to overdo it on mileage at the expense of speed, especially for younger runners. Mileage is probably necessary for success at a high level. Again, just not so much that speed fall apart or is never developed in the first place

​@@SimonShawk5 thanks bro

Always brutal 😭

My 200 is 22.89 if I remember correctly. Nothing crazy, that's for sure. Could never figure out how to accelerate around the curve and stay relaxed Sounds like a fantastic workout for an 800m guy no doubt. You'll probably have to do more than 3, but of course, that depends on the speed of the reps. If they're very fast, 3-5 would probably be great to improve the 400 of a 4/8 guy

I can get on board with that. Helps to facilitate the slightly longer ground contact times and harder pushes at the start. Mine, however, continues to stay straight 🤦🏻‍♂️

Me too

You probably don't have a wifi/data connection. That's what happens if you're not connected

That would've been so sick

Thank you so much!

Almost all Olympic 400 sprinters (43~45 sec) can run a sub 10.5 100m and most of them a sub 10.3 if they trained it for couple weeks. Sub 48 400m sprinters should be able to run a sub 11 100m and sub 22 200m. Otherwise they simply won’t have the speed reserve to go out a 23 or faster easily and still be able to come back a 25. You do need endurance obviously but 400 is still a sprint. You need more speed

@@zanesims1776 He needs to be able to run sub 11 in June

Your only supposed to do them for couple of weeks they help bulid strength and you get faster because after tapering them out your body feels better

Yeah, 100%. I bet doing them with some light ankle weights or bands used as Randy Huntington style proprioceptive feedback would make a killer combo for cleaning up acceleration mechanics

Have you ever seen the Exogen stuff being used by sprinters? If not, they’re like skin tight clothing whereby you can stick Velcro type weights strategically to your body to add subtle resistance. I think they do the weights for legs, torso and arms, but I believe that the most effective for speed annd mechanics development are the calf weights. I haven’t used them yet (I believe that Dennis Mitchell’s group use it sporadically), but apparently the results are off-the-charts.

Yes sir, Huntington uses those as well and Cody Bidlow. Only heard good things, but I feel they are pricy for what they are. Either way, something I intend to pick up eventually

Yeah, the same. I’ve got the calf ones, although haven’t used them yet, but they are pricey, as you say. If we bought ever single gadget that was out there I’m sure we’d be broke! 😂

Hi! I use a brand called Roacbox but they're the only ones I've used so I can't say for sure that they're any good. As far as spikes, I wish I could be more helpful but I have only ever used mid distance spikes (brooks ELMN8 from my 400/800m days) and the Nike superfly elite 2s. I really like the superflies but am not a fan of Nike as a company, plus they're very expensive so I wouldn't say they're "beginner" spikes. Cody bidlow has a good spikes guide on his website sprintingworkouts.com that can probably be a lot more helpful than I can

Yeah, got the arm but not the speed 🥲

It's in the description, it's an app called Photo Finish Automatic Timing. Works great once you learn how to use it, but you need 2 devices at least and a WiFi or data connection

Oh thanks! Guess I didn’t look hard enough lol

Changed approaches due to injury. Yes, heavily influenced by Cody Bidlow and have been faster and much healthier since switching Very curious what you think the right approach is... Cal Dietz has developed multiple all American 400m athletes if I remember correctly and Cody Bidlow has worked with countless high level sprinters

And your recommendation is……..?

@@SimonShawk5 id position you're maybe running faster due to deloading and doing more speed work :/ .. see this all the time when people go to a new program, recency bias from simply deloading. Further, i would be mindful of the position of "worked with" especially when that comes from simply having a good strong social media presence, it attracts! just as you have done. And without being too disrespectful if these people were good "coaches" they be in actual coaching jobs with pros! also there is a difference in getting a 10.5 sprinter to be "all American" in the 400 which is easy, compared to developing an actual 400m sprinter. The 400 isn't just about "being fast" and trying to hold solely off speed reserve. example being 10m flys!! think people have raised it before, move on. Also I maybe wouldn't work with a known banned drugs cheat personally, just my ethics. I quit coaching few years ago, but like to keep my eyes on the game and see what people are doing. I shouldn't have said 'will fail' but think likely to fall short with this.

@@tchai91 ignore social media bs, get a real 400m coach. He is coming from the 800, he isnt a natural sprinter so trying to train like one, isnt going to work. See too many online coaches sell the lazy approach "speed speed speed" and people buy into it, as were all naturally lazy!

a) I’m not on social media so have no idea what ‘bs’ you’re referring to and b) you still haven’t offered anything other than ‘get a real 400m coach’, which is meaningless. What, specifically, do you mean?

Only need one subscription, and all the other devices just connect with the device with the subscription. Only downside I'm aware of is needing WiFi or data on all the devices to use the app

Yup, which is why I think the 800 world record might be beaten pretty soon, since coaches are starting to realize this. 800 runners typically get the worst training since distance coaches prioritize too much mileage and spri😢nt coaches hardly touch 5+ miles per athlete per week

Yessir let's get after it 🔥🔥

Thank you so much! You are too kind, I really appreciate it!

Thank you so much!

This video was October 12th and probably recorded in mid September. In December now no I'm not doing special endurance because I had to restart my whole training cycle due to tendonitis

It sounds like fun but I've never hurdled over any distance (at least, not since middle school) so it would be a massive learning curve. I probably, at this point, won't ever do it since I won't have a coach to teach me

Lactic endurance disappears quickly. So, he basically did a hard workout that won’t benefit him and took a few days of potential good training away. Not a deal breaker, but also not a good habit to keep in your off season program.

I appreciate it, I’ll add it to the list. Thank you for watching!

He eats only animals that can break 48 seconds FAT.

You're spoiling my new video 😭🤫

@SimonShawk5 Hopefully you bagged a nice whitetail buck this season ;)

I wouldn't exactly word it like that. I think that speed training is very important for a distance runner wanting to get into the 800, and most 400m programs are probably better suited for 800m runners than most 800+ meter programs. And, someone with an extensive distance background would definitely gain more in their 800 from doing "400m" training because it would be such a big new speed stimulus

I've never had that issue. Are you hitting stop, and next rep, before each run?

@SimonShawk5 I have tried multiple things, I now just restart the clock before every run but I still get this issue.