Decision made - my Tesla is a keeper. What challenges are there in long-term EV ownership?
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- I've been debating this for ages - do I keep the car or flip it? I'm more than half way through the warranty, but have decided its a good bet to keep it.
What will I have to think about? What issues may affect reliability or cost me money? What things should I be worrying about in owning a Tesla over a long period?
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Hi Ian , ive got a model S i bought it when it was 3 years old and ive now had it over 5 years and it went outof warranty december 2023 im still on the original battery and 273,000 miles on the odometre and i still enjoy getting into it every day for work . Great videos
What’s the battery size young man? Much supercharging?
@@johnwoods19811 it’s an 85D used to supercharge every day till a few months ago but now I charge a lot at home with use of supercharging around twice maybe 3 times a week even tho I have lifetime free supercharging . 👍
I would recommend getting the cabin filters changed. I had mine changed after 2 years (almost exactly) and saw the ones removed by Tesla and they were clogged up with dust and dirt and definitely needed changing in my opinion
Look under the frunk/froot lid and you will see four square holes along the inside bottom edge. You can buy an aftermarket seal that fits those holes. Install the seal and it stops water going down into the cabin air filter at the bottom of the cabin air intake tunnel. Swamp smell fixed.
Quite easy to do yourself at home as well
Almost exactly? I own almost exactly 3 cars. I've got almost exactly 1 dog. I'm almost exactly 55 years old.
And go aftermarket for a better filter. We replaced our Ioniq 5’s stock filter with an activated carbon filter and much improved the air quality.
Interesting that you are considering keeping your Tesla Model Y LR. I bought mine with the intention of keeping it long term. I have had my Tesla 17 months and I still intend to keep it. It’s still a hugely impressive car.
I look forward to following your future TH-cam videos.
I bought a nice blue Model Y, Dual Motor thanks to your videos, mucker, I absolutely love it and really get what you're saying about it being a keeper. Great vids, keep them coming🖖
Ran the Goodyear Vectors on two previous Audis, best tyres I've had in wet slippy conditions. Wear was excellent too. Granted not on my Model 3 yet as I've just got it, but that's my experience, so I would recommend and will be getting them again when the time comes.
Really enjoy your videos and looking forward to you sharing your experiences of keeping your Model Y. Keep the vids coming!
Interesting that you are thinking of holding on to your Y long-term. I have a white standard range model since June 2023 and am thinking about holding on to it for several years too. So far 13,000 klms it has been faultless. I'll swap the tyres around this summer. It'll be interesting to see how you get on with your tyres and longevity with the vehicle.
I have had a Model 3 SR+ since 2020. I change from summer to winter tires (Canada) and have approximately 50,000 km on each set. I may need to change them this year but I've been saying that for a while now.
Drive normally at lower speeds and your tires, car and battery will last surprisingly longer.
Well, I’m well over 6’ tall pensioner and have a 3-year old Mazda MX30 that is coming up for changing later in the year. Loved it and accepted the awkwardness of the “suicide doors” and even the range anxiety too. Then it broke down twice due to its faulty 12v battery. Although it was replaced under warranty and been a great car to drive generally, it’s disappointing that Mazda are all so slow in expanding their limited EV range. So I hunted out an alternative. First tried the Volvo EX30 that was brilliant, so much better; then the Tesla Y as there was so many good reviews and recommendations for this model. Although it was the basic version, it is the very best car for comfort that I’ve experienced. So it’s on the shopping list and fully support yours and other views that it economically makes sense with so few things that will need attention in the future. And if the Juniper version gets released in time and there’s an offer deal on as well, then it’s a Win/Win all round. Great Channel! 😊
Check out the Ioniq 5 too. It is much superior to the Volvo. All depends if you want some buttons or not if you might like the Model Y or Ioniq 5 more.
I have Michelin cross climate on my car and just got the Goodyear vector all season on my wife’s car. Both good and love the versatility of an all season and in the cold wet winters they are great. Feel softer when cold and braking distance so much better when cold and wet. The Goodyear were slightly cheaper and I would probably go Goodyear but still happy with my michelin which is more summer biased but the Goodyear maybe a little more comfortable. Keep up the good videos!
Go for it. I bought a model y long range pretty much the same time you did. I have 50,000 miles on it. Planning to keep it until I am no longer allowed to drive
Bought Model 3 LFP outright 2 years ago with intention from the outset to keep it until it’s no longer viable. Swap between Pilot Sports in summer and Hankook Kinergy 4S2 over winter. Done nothing else at all to it so far, besides S3XY buttons. 38k miles driven. Have washed it about 6 times.
Hello from Sydney Australia. Enjoy your well-balanced view videos. 😊 I am about to take delivery of my first EV, a model 3this years built. Plan on keeping it long-term.
Enjoy!
I’m keeping my MYLR forever. Bought it cash when I retired as a car that should last a long time due to not much needing servicing plus the car gets regularly updated. It’s my second EV and I have faith in the batteries, and even if they do fail, by the time it’s out of battery warranty there will be plenty of places fixing them, as we’re already seeing in the US and Europe.
I do also have a V8 Ice car for fun drives though 😅
Just got a 12./2023 RWD LFP M3 with 8 miles on it the last day of December. 32K after $7.5 K rebate. First EV. Thinking about keeping it long term like you. Already put 6000 miles on it. Great car so far!
In Sweden I asked for a quote from tesla to change from winter to summer tires. They wanted 3000 SEK for that while a normal tireshop takes about 300-500 SEK.
I got the Michelin cross climate 2 back in January and very pleased with them. Got them on a Kwik fit deal, £706 for four, fitted in 19" wheels
Excellent content. Three weeks into my first Model Y ownership and I am already convinced that I am a Tesla owner for life. Subscribed. Looking forward to seeing more of your work.
I am starting to think about getting a used Model 3 with an LFP battery to keep it, as I see it it's expensive to insure BUT overall costs it'll be the cheapest car to run I will have ever had
Me too. Lfp standard range. Get a Longer range by driving carefully ….perhaps with multi season tyres for better grip ?
Tesla insurance is cheaper
I’m an insurance broker .. cost to insure is the same as it is for other cars, ice or ev, in the same class with most carriers.
I bought the September 2021 Model 3 Standard Range Plus with an LFP battery, and nearly three years later, couldn’t be happier with it! 36,000 miles. Just replaced the original tires with Michelin Cross Climate 2 this week. They feel great on both highway and the twisty bits.
Most sceptics have never sat in far less driven a Tesla, mine is a couple of months older than yours, but a smaller mileage, have done NOTHING to it, apart from a puncture repair.
Waiting to see what the refresh “Juniper” looks like, and then will the decision to change or not.
Me too ...
Will be interesting to follow along the journey because I also do intend to keep my Highland for long. Basically they are the same cars and to follow along what happens to your car might show what I can expect on my slightly newer car. Anyway I'm super impressed with the car so far. Totally effortless to drive whether it's shorter or longer trips. I don't even think about any longer I drive electric. My Tesla and my iPhone have the same philosophy ...They just work..
Great video. I’m thinking about getting a 2 year old RWD with LFP battery and doing the same. Love the videos
I have had my 2023 Model 3 RWD for a year now and no issues yet. Fast enough at 5.8 seconds to 60, and the efficiency is the best of any Tesla models.
I just had two rear knuckles and two front outer control arms replaced under warranty on my 2 year old, 39000 Tesla model Y LR. Cabin air filters were £34 and a hour to watch a YT video. I rotated my own tyres every 10k miles for £0, I had PPF fitted from new on most of the car including the headlights. I found a Tesla recycled parts seller (breakers yard) who sell a front light from £199 which will be plug and play followed by a headlight alignment as I didn’t fancy shelling out over £1200 for a headlight. An inspection before the end of warranty by Cleeverly will be worth every penny, the problem you may have is that this service is very very popular, so book early. I have run the Crosscliamate tyres on my previous model 3 and was very happy with them. I’d recommend finding a good independent garage with Hunter wheel alignment equipment as Tesla charges two fortunes for this service and have the alignment done after you replace your tyres.
I have a model Y of a similar age, it has done 57000 miles and I have no plans to sell it for a long time.
I got my car checked by Tesla Aberdeen before it went out of warranty and they replaced a few things that I hadn't noticed were wrong with it.
I would also consider Pirelli Scorpion EV all season tyres, I have them and have been very impressed, they are supposed to be better than the Michelins in the wet but not quite as good in the snow. I do far more driving in the wet than the snow and they have still been good in the snow so I am very happy.😊
Problem with rust with Tesla model 3 and Y?
Living in NE Scotland like yourself, I would certainly recommend a brake lubrication service.Not because of brake wear,but of the amount of salt that is used on the roads.Having watched James and Kate videos of James servicing Teslas here,then it's eye opening how much corrosion can get into the pads and callipers.
Bit of Lanoguard or similar round the sub frame components as well,and it should last for years.
Good idea
I live 800 feet up in the Pentland hills, and I went for the Goodyears. They seem fine. I wouldn't be caught dead driving here in summer tyres in winter.
Hi Ian, I bought a YLR in December 2022 with a view to keeping it 10 years. I don’t do the mileage you do but am thinking of a service check over, cabin filters and pre MOT by Cleevley at about 2.5 years. I look forward to your future videos with interest.
Regards
Ian Taylor
I have a Dec 21 model 3 LFP. So far 36k miles and same tires. Still good for now.
No issues and I am going to expire the warranty before the 4 years at this rate. Probably going to keep it long term depending on the next 12 months and prices Vs finance. If a great comes along then maybe. If not I am going to settle the finance and keep it. I am not concerned about it lasting at all. 👍
No real reason to keep changing, unless there is a significant change in battery technology, which for the foreseeable future there isn't. As per tesla the older atmos chips may or may not be getting the latest updates, but is that worth changing out the entire vehicle?
Great video and a good decision I think. I bought a new Model Y in February and I will keep it for many years. Looking forward to more videos 🙂
When doing all season tyre reviews on my previous car...I went with the Goodyear V4 which were great (less snow bias than the M CC2) however.... I'm not sure how either will effect range/economy. I'll look to put AS tyres on next I think
Hi Ian. Our Model Y is about the same age as yours. We live in Victoria, west coast of Canada. We have not had any defects or problems, with one exception. The button that drops one back seat flat stopped working. We also have a 4-year warrantee. The warrantee does not require us to do any maintenance, very different than the warrantees in our previous gas-powered cars. I would not recommend the optional extended warrantee though, because the extended warrantee does require one to pay for regular preventive maintenance and one must also pay a deductible amount for any repairs. Cheers.
Hi Ian, I don't see any problem with keeping your car long term. If you buy this car from your lease company will you have to pay the residual value as calculated in 2022 or the residual value in the market now. There could be a wide difference if the fud is to be believed.
I will be replacing mine with a Juniper version as soon as I can and maybe keep my existing one for our second car.
Hmmm, I rotated my tyres at 12k and still only got 20k out of them, 20" Michelins. Maybe it's how I drive hahaha
Not leased!
@@justgetatesla My apologies, I misunderstood from one of your other videos it was on some sort of contract and thought that would be expensive with the miles you do. Just gone through 25k with no issues at all. So far this is £8k cheaper to run on that mileage than my GLE350d was! All cash purchases.
It’s on a Business Contract Purchase plan. We’re paying for it over 4 years then a final payment to clear the balance. Perhaps a future video
I love this concept and very curious to see how living with this car unveils for you. A couple of years ago I transitioned to a Hybrid, which has been fantastic. Im very much looking forward to your experience and seeing whether EV is for me in the next 1-2 years.
Extended warranty is available again now
[quick Google] yes, so I see! New news everyone!
Common theme here, long-term ownership & nothing better than a Tesla on any metric. We always intended to keep our Model Y RWD perhaps as long as we might still be driving, & I chose this LFP battery model exactly for longevity. Amongst other fantastic metric’s of Tesla.
You're using one-pedal braking now? Excellent! 👏🏼 I'll be hopeful for the updated model in the next year 🤞🏼
All Teslas do this Jason - you push the accelerator down to go & lift off to slow - to a stop if you keep your foot off
Not if switched off
Yes, after my test of the M3 Highland I decided to give it another go. @tdtesla - my 2022 Y has 3 stopping modes - only hold is 1 pedal. Roll and Creep mean you need to use the brake pedal to come to a full stop
Keeping it long term was kind of always my intention with my 3. Out of main warranty now. I know the battery hasn't been abused - definitely could be tempted by a Model 3 estate.
Not generally a fan of rotating tyres per se, but I'll generally put the ones with most tread on the back when swapping winters and summers.
Camskill pretty cheap for tyres.
Thanks for doing this. I am interested how they do long term. I recently went backwards in tech in vehicles because I wanted a "ten year ownership" vehicle. I traded in a 2022 Ford Edge St with all the electronic nannies to overcome the cell phone staring drivers that I believe won't last, on a dinosaur 2018 Toyota Tundra with low tech. I fully expect the Tundra to last longer than newer Ford based upon the history of both vehicles and that electronics fail much faster. I too have a tendency to flip vehicles often. Shall we compare 3 years from now? 5 and 10? I have been playing around with adding a used Tesla as a 2nd vehicle but there isn't enough data for me to be confident in long term (decade) cost. I recently purchased a home that had solar panels already installed and I am definitely paying the gas tax for the reliability of this truck.
PS folks think Teslas are maintenance/repair free. They are far from it. There is quite a bit going on just to manage the thermodynamics of heating and cooling the batteries and cabin. Google super manifold and tesla heat pump issues. This guy goes over the systems the best I have seen. th-cam.com/video/7HC72p2gfuQ/w-d-xo.html
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I have the Cross Climate 2's on my MYLR and they are great.
I have M3P, I put 18 inch aftermarket wheels with Michelin Cross Climate 2 tyres, great all round tyre. And had it through snow, very confident handling. I am also in Scotland.
I’m pleased it’s round !
There will be deals, just wait for one. I am on Goodyears for that reason. All season tyres are a no brainer even though I live in south london as i live at the bottom of a relatively slight incline which is not gritted and summer tyres always struggled with any amount of snow or ice.
I’ve had Cross Climate 2 (non EV), they were very good in the winter rains. But, for my next set of EV tires, I was thinking Hankook EVO, mostly for range. My Model Y and yours are about the same age, now at 19K miles. On Highland, probably not. I got the LED matrix headlights, the ultrasonic sensors, and 20 inch wheels, so I’m pretty satisfied with the configuration. If I could get a comfort suspension, or air suspension, or cooled seats, I would be tempted. But, no, I say catch a good wave and ride her all the way to shore!
This was my decision from the outset. Also, just back from a biztrip to the US and took the opportunity to take a Model Y out with FSD 12.
My partner didn't believe that I wasn't driving. Amazing to get into a car in a strange city and just let the car drive, that would be a perfect hire car scenario.
The only time I took over was a decision to change route due to traffic and I had a destination set as a Starbucks and it wanted to go into the drive through lane but we didn't want coffee, it was just a route. 😁
Perhaps the car thought you needed some caffeine!!!
@@justgetatesla the two 2014 honda crv lx fwd i own on my channel are cheaper to buy insure and maintain and operate and will outlast any ev on this planet aswell as that hyundai 30 if you take care of it do proper maintenance by the way tesla electric motors require oil changes if dual motor its 2 filters 2 oil changes.
@@justgetatesla yeah, seems the training data was of drivers getting coffee at drive throughs 😂
@@billybobbob3003 Unfortunately your 2 Hondas will continue to spew out toxic fumes until they finally die, or aren't worth fixing. Get rid of the HoS.
@@greghudson9717 combustion engines are better for the environment they dont have to dig big holes in the ground and pollute ground water like lithium mining and they less toxic than batteries. if you knew anything all plant life needs carbon monoxide that cars spew out to live its what helps them grow.
I’d be interested to know how you got on with Cross Climates - might also help with the ride..
Your suspension may give issues over time, same as any car really. More garages will be willing to fix as no electrics near suspension. Brakes need good hard use from time to time to keep them clean. Its not that they wear out, more that lack of hard use can lead to rust or pitting. I plan to keep my m3 lfp rwd for years too, due to reduced number of items to go wrong. Keep up the great videos.
Good hope enjoy you journey and what happens
Love the Model 3 Long Range we bought new 2 years ago that we have replaced our combustion car with a second used one. Just love them!
In terms of tyres, how about Hankook iON flexclimate?
How come your rear tyres are more worn out than the front ones? I was expecting you to have an RWD model Y until you mentioned that you have the AWD version. Is it more rear biased?
Yes
The AWD Model 3 and Y are RWD most of the time. The front motor kicks in when extra acceleration or traction is needed
Seriously considering getting a Model Y. Keeping it long term. Will be watching with great interest.👍
I got mine in sep 23 and bought it outright. I plan on keeping it as long as the battery warranty
Mine is owned by one of my companies. Still on finance but with a plan to pay it all off in time
I'm up and down the a90 from Errol to kintore weekly. Every white MY I see I keep looking to see if it's you doing a video 😂
My thoughts are that I’ll be keeping my 2021 M3 for 6years ish / 100000 miles. 3 years old in September. 2x lower control joints replaced on warranty, 4 new tyres, and a replacement windscreen after an unfortunate stone impact. No major dramas, and I’m definitely “pro stalk” when it comes to new car considerations.
I’ve always kept my ICE cars long term and intended to do so with my 2023 MY RWD. I bought it in preference to the M3 for the height of the seats as my wife and I are in our 70s. The one thing that will cause me to change my mind is if the promised M2 has seats closer in height to the MY than the M3. I’d hope to almost exchange the MY for the M2 (price-wise) and get the benefits of new firmware/hardware, seats etc. The seat height will be the deal breaker!! 😀
I Proclaim that I've just subscribed now need to start using my i3 more often and maybe do 500 miles on the continent. Could not wait for the thumbs up to get from 468 to the 500. Best Dave
Had cross climates for years. 40K miles per set…..great grip, noise and rolling resistance….on Model S
Strange how similar our situations ( vehicle wise) might end up, i currently have a light blue Hyundai i30 1.4 style same age, and my wife is just now looking at getting an electric company car and the model 3 is high on the list
Nice.. great review. The cars are almost to good to be true. My M3 is a long term keeper.
One thing you didn't mention, what would it have cost to trade this in and get a replacement, either cash or as a lease or similar?
I don’t know! When the refresh Model Y comes out I will review it and get a trade in costed up
@@justgetatesla Ian if you are looking for a quote from Tesla, make sure to do it just before you order your new car as if you dither & keep asking the price drops significantly. Better to sell private. However when Model Y was first launched my Model 3 LR price topped out at 2k under what I paid for it a year earlier! Demand & supply & all that.
@@tdteslaSounds like also just around post-pandemic when cars were difficult to source, artificially inflating used prices?
Harry has done a great review on the new model 3. You’ve probably seen it but worth a watch if not…
Last week was chatting to Tesla Winchester, they Have Tesla Model Y cars with over 100000 miles and they have not changed the brake Pads...plus seen a Tesla Model Y with over 150000 miles going Strong being used as a Taxi..My own car is a Blue Long Range Model Y Feb 2022 car.!!
Hi Ian - My husband and I love your posts, and watch you regularly. We are from Australia, and thinking of upgrading our current car to an EV, and considering a Tesla. However, we have three young children, at the age where over the next five years they will transition out of baby seats and into the usual spaces a car provides. What we are wondering is: how comfortable is that middle seat in the back? We have a regular school commute of about 25 minutes per day, twice a day, and go on a long trip across the country at least once a year. Can someone sit in that middle seat for these trips? Would love to see your thoughts on this. Keep up the great work!
Currently in the passenger seat, my wife driving and 3 teens in the back. I’ve just asked about the middle seat - “it’s comfy”
Keep it. I have a 2022 LRMY that's on 175k miles. Last set of tyres reats did 60k fronts did 90k....didn't rotate can't be bothered 😂.
Brake pads still have 62% life left in them when tested in January this Yr.
Had an air con issue but otherwise I've had zero problems.
I use the car for airport transfers.
Of course you should keep it! Got the exact same thoughts and bought mine to keep for the next 10 years. Just wondering, how is the 2nd hand market for Tesla Y, would it be easy to sell it and keep a high price?
My only question is - how is the ride in the Y? I've tried a couple of Y's and found the ride HORRIBLE. I am currently renting a Model 3, while my Ford Mach-e gets repairs after being sideswiped. The S and the 3 are both very comfortable.
I think the ride is fine!
@@justgetatesla I'm glad. Again, i've driven two Model Y cars and hated the bumpy ride. Now, I absolutely love the ride in the S. I've been renting a 3 for the past two weeks and it is fine. But I could not imagine driving a Y for more than five minutes.
You inspired me to book a tyre rotation with Tesla.
Was quoted £95.04
That in turn inspired me to cancel the service.
Like you I was quoted around £90 for Tesla to rotate the tyres and that was at Tesla Leeds not the 'come to you service' mentioned in the video - I passed at that price
Ow! That much???
@@justgetatesla yeah. Book it and see. You can easily back out without consequence. Interested in what you'll be quoted.
@@davidjohnbarnard If you mention you would like a mobile service that can be done. Sometimes it doesn't give you option on the app but a tire rotation can definitely be done mobile
Tyres on the drive charge £90 to actually swap tyres, rebalance etc onto the same wheels… £90 just to rotate is a rip off
I am from india, and currently drive an mg comet ev. Love the vehicle .
Tesla is probably coming to India this year. I would love to purchase a model y , but i am worried about the ground clearance, and lack of indicator stalks. Roads in my country are the worst. Speed breakers are not built scientifically, and if ground clearance is not adequate, could easily scrape the underside.
I’m buying my LFP 3 at 3 years in another year. £18k and will have about 25k miles on to buy it at end of PCP.
Rotating the tyres on my ID 5 is not possible unfortunately but i see your point , the Michelin tyres are seemingly better but it's all about cost etc . If you keep your Y are you going to get the Juniper version as the model 3 is limited by the boot issue .great video blog and other makes of electric cars have a great deal to catch up on
Why not? At least fronts to rear and vice versa? My car will get the wheels rotated as per the destruction manual, shortly - even though AWD, it mostly operates in RWD mode.
@@oliver90owner my tyres on the rear are wider on the ID 5 same size 19 inch but a wider profile 8j front ,9 j on the rears
@@paulscott1759 You could still swap them left to right though. In the UK/Australia, the left sides always wear out faster due to doing U turns etc.
@@greghudson9717 Only if they are not an asymmetric tread pattern…..
@@paulscott1759 Thanks for the reply. Hadn’t thought of that. I can understand it on something like a Porsche, but beats me why on a VW ID5 - unless it improves the range by a couple of miles, or so.
The CrossClimate II's are the best tires that I've ever purchased for any car, for all weather conditions. Michelin has created perfection in my honest opinion. I've owned them for 60k miles on my Model Y and I think they have enough tread remaining to make it to 70k.
I have the same car as you and the same age. I have only 15,000 on the clock but will test drive the new one when it comes out. If it is way better I will get it, no question. It is supposed to be getting the new battery pack. Hopefully a glasses holder and a handle above the passenger door.
Yes- that is needed!
@@justgetatesla which? The glasses holder or the handle?😊
Don't hold your breath on the over door handles, evidently Elon doesn't like them, so we don't get them. I wish I had them though 😞
I've had my MYP just over a year now with 21000 miles. Absolutely loving it! Based on a couple of engineers who have been testing various tires, I am switching over to 19" Hankook Ion Evo all season with 50,000 mile warranty. Having Unplugged Performance (Hawthorne CA), remove the 21" to go for the 19" tires with better ride quality as well as slightly improved range. in addition they will be installing their designed and tested coilover suspension lift kit and their UP-03 lightweight forged wheels. Their reduced weight should help with mileage. These were the same ones they used to race up Pikes Peak Colorado in their modified Model S. Yeah i'm a little crazy, but like you I do plan on keeping the car long term. The ride quality is really rough, hence the change in suspension as well as adding adjustable rear camber arm set so that the tires wear more evenly, unlike the stock ones Tesla uses. Love your country. Hope to come over again soon.
Interesting choice on the tyres, will look into these Hankook all season tyres, was going to go with Goodyear vectors all seasons. I agree with the suspension, will potentially swap my suspension out at some point as my Y will be a long term keep.
@@johnrowbotham2810 On TH-cam check out Engineering Explained titled Electric summer tires-can you really have it all. This fellow has amazing analysis of Hankook. Also check the site Gjeebs--Arguably the best tire for my model Y- Hankook Ion Evo.
I would keep the tesla you have. it's got a new brain, it hasnt cost you in servicing. With regards to the headlight replacement cost, that could happen to any car. I reckon that the hardware 4 in the upcoming Juniper model probably will only benefit countries that have full self driving where signs with writing need to be read. But then maybe hardware 4 might benefit more for the new vision system for parking, and im guessing that because the new hw4 has higher frames per second on its cameras possible to calculate the distance of an object more accurately. Im hoping to keep my blue model y with lfp battery, hopefully for 20 years. However, I did say that about my Prius, and I only had that for 5 years. As for the battery in the Tesla, data on it seems to be pointing to one of the best built car batteries out there, and looks like it will out last other manufacturers' batteries. I would like to see more of your Tesla videos in the future, one vote for keeping the car.
I find selling a car after just 2 years crazy… I like to keep them long term.. seems like the most sustainable way as well.
I am about to sell our 2017 Mitsubishi triton we bought new back in the day. Not that the Ute is bad or anything, just that we have changed our usage and this it’s can’t pull 3 ton as safely and easily as other 4wds.. so we upgraded to a heavier 4wd that rides a lot safer with a heavy trailer.
I don't know that trading a nearly new Y for a Juniper makes any sense, really. If you're happy with your car, it's almost certainly not worth it.
Tires? Either buy what is available or be patient.
As you said in your video, these are not popular specs. I don't know about UK, but in eastern North America that combo of specs is not "the norm", at least that was my experience. I waited 8 months to get a new set of all seasons, nobody had anything in stock on either side of the border. A set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4 became available. I have always been a Michelin man, so I went for them. I have tried other brands in the past but have always come back to Michelin. No regrets thus far. I hope the tire situation across the pond is not this dire.
FWIW I've heard good things about Vredestein. No idea if they are available in UK though. They are Dutch so I have not seen any. YMMV :)
In two years I'm definitely thinking 🤔 off keeping my Cupra born, I've saved over £1200 a year fuel that's a cheap holiday away for me and family, 👍
😊done 50000 miles in my mod3 ,no serving,no repairs! 1 set of tyres and lashings of screenwash 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊❤it
Have the Cross Climate 2s on my M Y. Happy with them.
I think a lot of people will be happy when they see Friday’s video drop 😁
Good luck mate, enjoy your money pit!
Thanks for helping me pay for it 🥳
You should rotate tires and have your brakes moveable parts lubricated. You should turn off you regen for a short drive to move those parts so they don't possibly seize.
Brakes do get regularly used!
@@justgetatesla official line is "Clean and lubricate brake calipers every year or 12,500 miles (20,000 km) if in an area where roads are salted during winter". I'm going to get it done next tyre rotation which is due shortly, I'm also on a '72 Y but only 18k miles. For me ranger tyre rotations have been £47.52. they only swap front and back same side, rangers don't do X pattern swap - unsafe on scissor jacks. I'm hoping the brake clean and lube is also something the rangers can do.
@@justgetatesla not regularly enough ,according to my mechanic, he says the brakes and calipers are like new after 100,000 km but need cleaning. I notice this particularly when reversing from my garage at the start of a drive. In cold wet weather the brakes fail to release easily and make an uncomfortably loud bang. Using the brakes exclusively for a few km, every few months, greatly lessens the issue.
I live in Canada where brine and sand are used on the roads.
I have an older Model S with free supercharging for life, with only 60k miles from new a 2016 model, I will be watching and holding the car as a keeper.
The good thing about owning a Model Y is that it is the most common EV on the planet. When troubles develop some years down the line, if getting it fixed by Tesla will be expensive, there is a good chance someone has developed a cheaper solution. Maybe some day there will be someone offering to upgrade your car with a solid state battery, who knows.
Yes - better to drive a Tesla than a BYD or something else obscure
I think you will be satisfied keeping your Model Y, unless you were looking forward to losing stalks (I like stalks for things like turn signals and wipers, but that's me). Do you still have USS (ultra-sonic sensors)? Newer models over here no longer have them; I find them very useful
In terms of reliability the car should be just fine; as long as you take care of it, it will take care of you -- most cars do that :) in terms of warranty, I believe most things break within the warranty period, so if you have not had any issues so far, I think you should be fine going forward; obviously standard wear and tear affects any vehicle, so things like wiper fluid or a hose here and there will invariably happen; but I think you will be very happy with the piece of mind that lack of usual maintenance EVs bring
Goodyear vector gen 3 promised longer milage than cross climate. I would recommend Goodyear, there going good under my car. The goodyear all season vector gen 3 is better performing than cross climate in dry and wet handling. Only in snow cross climate is better. In a mild climate with more heavy rains at times, I would recommend Goodyear, also from my two year driving experiences. I would also to advise you to change the tire if possible. Look for a smaller diameter rim, the smallest possible. For my car I went from 17 inch cast alu to 15 inch steel, also going down in width from 7J to 6J. The steel is thinner, therefore the smallest cast alu fit was 16 inch, not 15 inch in my case. With going down to 15 inch rim, check also the right offset, the rim is not sticking out to the side, it will increase drag forces. With going down to 15 inch rim I selected also a more narrow tyre. It will have more resistance against water aquaplaning, increasing safety. In my case I lowered the weight of each wheel from 21 kg to 16 kg, resulting with going down in weight to 16 kg for 4 wheels, increasing range for about 10-12%, which is quite a lot.
My EV insurance premum has risen $1000 because of costly repair, parts and labor ( more than market value and long wait for parts) once EV crashes into a serve accident. So the insurance company just ewasted it and pay the whole car market value instead. Also that's a port of the reason why it depricates so super fast within a couple years.
Depreciation rates rise and fall. Mine is depreciating slightly slower than anticipated. And compared to my previous diesel it’s depreciating slowly
Regardless of the car, I think you should change it and soon and avoid the extra tax from next year. You have done way above average miles. Its not so much about how long the car will last but you have the benefit of writing the cost off and thats is what a company car is all about.].
My last two cars both had normal road tax and the expensive car supplement. This one will not have the expensive car supplement when it starts paying normal road tax in March 2026. So it will be cheaper
Go with the Michelin tires.
I've had my Model Y since Sept 2022 and rotated my tyres twice (AU$100 in total) at my local tyre store (I should have bought a hydraulic jack instead). When I do change the tyres, that rotation service will be free. As someone said below, changing the cabin filters is a good idea, but you also might want to get some new wiper blades (unlike our previous Mercedes C class, where they wanted AU$130 EACH assembly - no option to just get the blades only). As for keeping it, I'm waiting to see what the Model 2/Q/? SUV is like because the Model Y is simply too big for a retired couple.
Also, I have found a company here in Melbourne that has been selling upgrade wheels to Model 3/Y owners, and they have a pile of wheels and tyres for AU$2k per set (all brand new, minus a few kms). The cost of replacing the Kuhmo tyres like for like (plus the air pressure sensors), will cost well OVER $2k so I'm thinking of getting a set of Model 3 18" rims & tyres, so give me a softer ride, and on top of that, the tyres are cheaper than the 19" model Y's. What do you think ?
I don’t think you can switch to a smaller wheel size as they haven’t been validated for the car. Rules may be different in Oz though!
@@justgetatesla Hmmm. I think you are correct, which also insurance would not be valid either. My bad.
Another great video Ian 👍👍
Great video.
Interesting that you’re considering using non EV rated all weather tyres (usually higher load rating to deal with the extra weight and torque), this may cause you issues with your insurance company, not to mention potential issues with performance, wear and economy. But I would certainly check with your insurance company before running non EV tyres.
No no - XL are nothing to do with EV. Just weight.
How much did the depreciation influence your decision?
Not at all. Worst depreciation I ever had with with my 2018 Volvo diesel. All expensive cars depreciate. The FUD is that only EVs do…
I read this all the time, why people look at cars like an investment... I don't get this mentality, I bought mine to keep until it's no longer economical to run or practical.
If a car is an investment it’s a crap one
@@justgetatesla not as an investment but if you want a new car every 4/5 years it will definitely be a consideration. Or like my partner that gets a car allowance and do a lot of km's then it is certainly a consideration.
@@hmsq82 I never suggested it is an investment. If people do (unless it's a desirable classic) they are silly.
Keeping my 2023 mylr forever. Wise decision.
my word! 6:04
Crossclimates have done me well on multiple cars.
Luck forward to your long term videos, but won’t you get the “2 year itch” to change it ?
6 months itch more like! Thing is that I would replace it with another one. So I’ll look at the refresh when it comes out, but I’m not sure I see the point. Is running one for a decade of more interest? I can still review new ones
@@justgetatesla keep the old one & get the new one as well (lol) - Juniper will be a step change upgrade to Model Y - as was Highland to Model 3.
@@justgetatesla Just trade the Hyundai in on the next Model Y ;-)
The Highland is a massive step from an early 3. From the pre-facelift immediately before? Not so much. I’ve decided that the improvement vs mine would have to be gargantuan to tempt me. I will test drive it of course!
I am a first time Tesla owner as you, I intend on keeping my Model 3 for a while. However, if Tesla comes up with a big technological upgrade, I will get a new Tesla. FSD is already available, so the only big tech change I see coming would be the battery. If you use an iPhone as an example, todays iPhone is essentially the same as the original except for a longer life battery and larger memory.
FSD is available *in America*. Not elsewhere
Teska batteries will last a minimum of 300k miles , more likely half a million. There is a 4 year old model y with 660,000k on the original battery.
Nice to hear an owner attacking the FUD pushed out by the anti-EV brigade. And you did not even mention the cost of petrol/diesel v charging which is another big save as well as less maintenance. Good on you.
I’ve done a direct comparison of electricity vs petrol vs diesel on a previous video. Didn’t mention it this time as the only possible replacement would also have been an Ev
Sounds like a keeper.