Tesla Model Y: What I Learned After 50k Miles of Ownership | Review & Impressions
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2023
- We took delivery of our Tesla Model Y back in May of 2021. This was our second Model Y as we had originally taken delivery of one of the first 3k Model Y's built back in 2020. When the 7 passenger option started delivering, that is when we switched to the Model Y we have today.
Along with a fresh interior update, the Model Y came with a larger battery. This was of course on top of adding the 7 seat option, which we would use from time to time with multiple adults and our 2 children in the car. This combined with the impressive storage space in the Model Y makes it one of the best cars to consider. Don't just take my word for it, the Model Y was the best selling car of any fuel several times this year, throughout the entire world.
We have surpassed 50k miles on our Tesla Model Y and there is a lot to talk about. In this video I will review the costs, wear and tear, battery degradation, autopilot, FSD, overall pros and cons and wrap it up with final thoughts following this 50k miles.
The hard thing to explain to people is just how much cheaper it is to operate an electric car. Because EV's usually come with a higher price tag than their gas equivalent, it takes a shift in thinking for the average consumer to understand. When factoring in the maintenance and fuel costs, an electric car can save substantial money.
In this last 50k miles, degradation of the battery has been as much on my mind as it is many. That said, the battery has seemed to really settle in at the 10% mark. When I took delivery, the BMS read 79 kWh nominal. At this time, that is now reading 71 kWh nominal. This 10% reduction seems to be pretty good considering that over half of the lifetime charging on this car was on a supercharger.
Autopilot and FSD continue to make progress. The good news is that in this last year, FSD and Autopilot have improved at a much faster rate than the previous year. Phantom braking does still happen, but it is much more rare these days compared to a nearly daily occurrence last year. FSD, while not ready for wide release in my area, has made pretty significant improvements over the last year also.
Overall, this car hits a lot of the marks. It executes in ways that other EV's are not able to. The Model Y is the best balance of price, range, space, performance and comfort. Add on top of that the qualification for the $7,500 EV Tax Credit, this Tesla Model Y is going to be hard to beat. If your budget is somewhere close to the average new car price in America, there is no other car you should be looking at as the Model Y is the BEST all around EV on the road today.
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I just went to a showroom (Nov 14, 23) and I literally watched the sales person pour his iced coffee all over the drivers white seat and clean it up after 2 mins without any stain or wetness left behind. I’m getting the white seats in my model Y
unbelievably easy to maintain. worth it
I've had white seats for 2.5 years and they look brand new.
You are an absolute natural at this. Flawless delivery and great content. I am seriously considering a new M3P, and decided to watch some Y reviews before deciding.
When is the Performance M3 coming?
I’m a mechanic and am tired of all the oil changes, filters we do on me and my wife’s cars. Our Tesla Model 3 is mostly maintenance free, and I can probably find a good used set of tires here at the dealership I work at for free.
Yea, the difference in ownership experience related to maintenance is hard to explain to people that have not owned an EV before.
@@BeardedTeslaGuy it’s funny because I used to laugh at these cars. I love almost every bit about that car. It was a gift for my wife when we just got married.
Oil changes are easy compared to how many times you’ll take a Tesla in for service
@@adampritchard7182which Tesla do you own and how many times have you taken it to the service center? Just curious
4 times for my model y performance for creaks rattles and panel gaps. Sold that after 8 months. 3 times for my wife’s model y long range. And now a front safety restraint system fault trying to schedule that as Tesla cancelled fixing it twice now with no explanation after waiting weeks for appointments.
Best ownership video I've seen. Great job. Subscribed.
Thanks 👍
Thanks for the tip on the rear seat wear. I also have the white seats on my 7 seat MYLR and will get them protected. I’ve had the car for over a year now and no stains on the seats! I used the ceramic coat you recommended and they still look great (I have 1 kid but we often drive with other little ones).
Thank you again for all of the good info you post! ✌️ 🍻
Glad to help!
Please do not get rid of this vehicle. Keep throwing miles on it. Would love to see the battery degradation after 120K miles. Actually, would love to see how many miles you can throw on it before it needs a battery replacement. Even then a video on getting a refurbished battery replacement would be super cool to see and then seeing how many miles a refurbished battery would last you would also be an interesting vid.
Great points. As promising as tesla has been, battery replacement and customer service makes me curious
Have 289k on my 2013 model s. Original battery. still holds a charge just fine with no issues.
@@Secretsquirrel27% degradation?
@@Secretsquirrel27 Whats the battery degradation?
@@user-fq3ox6ir9q I’m still holding at 96% integrity
Great breakdown on this car, especially all the upgrades it received since 2021. I didn’t realize it was that many. 👍🏾
Best video on ownership. Thanks for making it . Appreciate you
Glad you liked it!
Amazing review thank you for taking the time to do it 🙏🏾
My pleasure!!
This video was the best I've ever seen, honestly explaining in detail & completely everything you'd want to about Tesla model Y before you buy! I would suggest submitting this video to Tesla.
Awesome job! Great Luck to you!
Hard to disagree w arthurmartinez. Not merely a tremendous ad for Tesla but for the early EV adopters of any* EVs. Thanks for nudging us in the right direction.
Great review! Combination of an owner and technician points of view!!!
#1 no cost tip: from Toybox, set up Rainbow Road, click always. Often AP will be off when I think it’s on leading to dangerous situations because it’s SO hard to see that tiny blue icon but Rainbow road cannot be missed even if you’re looking sideways.
#2 phantom braking. Always keep your foot touching the accelerator which will over-ride phantom braking with a blip of the accelerator.
You didn’t talk about insurance?
The updates you get for Tesla over the years make it awesome. I have owned several cars in my life. Never got a single update on any of them throughout the ownership.
yep, and its not just bug fixes. It's legit new features. No other car like it!
I get it, but still trying to convince myself to get this car given the depreciation. I would have to keep this for its life (which is?) to make sense. And seeing that list of features that were added it sounds like people who get early builds of each model are the ones who are fascinated with the updates. “Real time traffic” has been a thing for a decade or more, and if I had CarPlay I could choose who’s traffic I wanted to use :)
@@JeffDangel all car depreciate not seeing your point. If it cost? Teslas are dropping in price. Average car (all types) is near 45K now Yep thats high no doubt. The model 3 now starts at a very reasonable $35k.
@@asommer518 These are TRASH and we all know it ...Depreciation is worse becaus of seams non alignment batts will need replace fo 30K resale plummets ...Get a Lexus!
Great video. Thanks for the info. I recognized some of the areas in the driving footage as I have driven basically every highway and back road in central Florida for my job so that was cool.
hahaha
Good job, keep this good work, love the graphics with numbers, I’d wish every reviewer would have this approach
Much appreciated!
Great review! We are thinking about getting the VW ID Buzz but it is around 20k more than the Model Y, Buzz doesn't have 4WD and the Model Y has more space and is way more efficient. Great to hear an honest opinion what it is like to live with a Model Y, thanks for that!
Thanks for the great review! I've had my white Y/LR for 5 months (my first BEV). I love the car. My only complaint is all the bugs on the front after road tripping! Also, as a new owner, there were a bunch of unexpected small costs for me: Floor mats (didn't come with in NY), mud guards, portable tire inflator, screen protector, microfiber towels (to hand wash those bugs off!). And for emergencies: CCS adapter, lift pucks, tire patch kit. No spare tire crossing fingers. I've only been charging at 120V household current (which is working fine so far, but others my have to spend a few thousand for Lvl 2 charger install). Also I haven't put any PPF wrap on the car to protect the "soft paint" (which also costs a few thousand). Still, it's a wonderful car.
Yea the front end of the car is a massive “flat” painted surface that demolishes all the bugs. Other cars have a big plastic grill instead of paint
Can’t you get a 220 outlet installed?
You have 220 for your dryer.
@@MrCountrycuz I put in a Splitvolt 2 weeks ago so now I'm charging much faster. $230 on sale for the 10-30 model (plus $$ to buy an extension cord to the Tesla, plus 10-30 adapter). Brand new EV owners need to factor in this also. I'd bet most don't know about the Splitvolt--I only learned about it recently.
Great video! I have a 2021 MYP and have enjoyed every minute of driving it (well, except when I got rear-ended once and spun out on a track another time:P). I think one thing most reviews of Tesla vehicles don't cover enough is just how many new features the car gained over the years through OTA updates. The car is just so much more full featured today compared to two years ago when I took delivery it's hard to appreciate without experiencing it. I now struggle to think of something else I'd like Tesla to add because they pretty much covered most of the bases with updates so far within the limitations of the hardware that exist on my particular car. It's been far and away the favorite car I've owned up to now.
I compiled all the truly new features that were added since I owned towards the end. 46 new features in 2+ years of ownership
@@BeardedTeslaGuy yes, that was great. Most reviews of Tesla cars I’ve seen really don’t emphasize the update enough or at all.
I have a MYP but hate the rough bumpy ass ride!!!!
@@BeardedTeslaGuy THE BEST ELECTRIC CAR TODAY IS TOYOTA RAV4 HYBRID PRIME THEY CANT MAKE ENOUGH JUST LIKE FORD MAVRICK
The maverick is gay as fuck...
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Exsalant and helpful video. I will love to know what tires you are using for extra and what rim protection you have on?
Thanks again
This video/review was incredible
Great Video as always! Quick Question... You replaced the tires at @852, what did you go with as I just got a set of tires for my other car (not the tesla) and it was @1100...
Great video and review on your Model Y!
Excellent review/video. I wish you would have stated why the windshield needed replacing 3 times, especially in Florida. Stones? Debris? Stress cracks/defects?, etc.
Another excellent video from you! Well done, well produced with great data! You are one of the best. Feels most Tesla channels are all about clickbait and taking forever to get to the punchline. Not yours
Appreciate you
I compared it to my old f25 x3 3.5 based on HP. That mpg was around 18mpg combined. 50k miles at 5.50 for premium comes to a little over 15k in gas.
Love the video and just ordered Tesla Y. What Thule model on the roof do you have? I'll need to order one too for camping trips.
its this one amzn.to/469losG
Excellent video, thank you. I've already shared it with my Tesla friends and a few fence-sitters. Quick question: in your talking-head shot, I'm assuming you're shooting with an iPhone? How are you able to get Portrait mode while shooting video?
Also note, I'm ordering those rim protectors, and maybe a 2nd backup set. Those things are at LEAST as important as PPF.
iPhone allows you to shoot in "cinematic" mode on the cameras. I use my Apple Watch to frame the shot so that I am using the better cameras on back of phone.
Awesome, thank you @@BeardedTeslaGuy
High quality vid, good stuff
I've had to replace 3 tires but I think that is due to the constant construction that I have to drive through. Also replaced the windshield once and had it repaired once.
Tires is really the biggest maintenance item. Once you get away from the OEM tires though, you will get a lot more life out of tires.
Excellent, very practical review
Wow what a great video! U are the best thank u❤
Glad you liked it!
I purchased a pre-owned Tesla via the official Tesla website, but when it arrived, I noticed it was quite dirty, and there were paint chips all over the car, likely from its previous owner in a Texan farm area. I was surprised by the condition because I expected better from a Tesla website purchase. Nevertheless, after bringing it to Arizona, I took the time to restore it, and now it looks as good as a brand-new Model Y. I admire how well you maintain your vehicle; I wish the previous owner of mine had been as diligent as you are.
Great review. Thanks!
Cheers
Good car review❤ I picked up my Model Y two months ago 🎉
This car is nicely glued together!
LOL, but kind of true. And, even then, not so nicely.
Hey what % is your tint for front and back windows. Great videos
Another great video! How did you track the battery pack? Is that an app?
Yea, its Scan My Tesla coupled with an OBD reader like this one amzn.to/46niCzC
@@BeardedTeslaGuy Guessing there is a cable? I seem to recall there is no OBD port, pull the back off the Center Console and there is an adapter to pop in that has a port. Is there one you like better than others? Thanks, Tom
Excellent video! What app are you using to measure battery degradation ? Thanks!
That app is called "scan my Tesla" and interfaces with an OBD device that you have to have installed on the vehicle.
3:26 Thanks for sharing this. I have about the same cost of driving as your Tesla Y in my old 3rd gen Prius. Because i drive a lot I have the additional cost of frequent oil changes. Yes Ive had to recondition the battery pack twice and replace some modules but most of my repairs have been under the hood. Approx $4K of ICE repairs in 400,000 miles of driving.
Great content thanks for sharing! I just purchased a model 3 long range this past August with white interior so I’m always looking for videos on reliability. I look forward to seeing more of your videos. ✌️
Cheers
Just ordered the Spigen Seat Belt Guide, good call thanks for sharing.
just be aware, there will be more slack in an accident, which will mean the inertial reel lock on the seatbelt will engage in a bit looser position.
Welcome
Great vid. Why have you left the tape on the top of the rear window?
I actually dont, the tape was "stained" there for a while but it's gone now. Sometimes when I wash you can see where the tape was also
Great video! You should have 100k more followers
Hope to be there soon!
Get (Exo-Shield) its a clear film over the windshield that stops chips/road sand.. keeps a clear perfect glass!ive been using this for almost 2 yrs. I haven’t replace the windshield since!
I have the 3rd row and find it better than expected. My 5/8 and 5/9 daughter and son could ride in it no problem on an hour trip when I got it just for grand kids. The AC was an issue summertime in MI, but simply aiming air vents up more seemed to take care of it. Don’t find the leg room to be much of an issue either if you adjust middle row correctly. With 2 adults and 5 kids could also still make them scream when hit the “gas”.
Haven’t used the tow bar though and would like to know more how well that works. Not sure will ever use it now after heart surgery and remote camping becoming less likely so I am glad camp mode is standard inside Y.
Cost of ownership makes sense. Cost of entry, still looking at about 15k saved on a gas variant of the Rav4 (gas would be better on the hybrid trim). I think many ppl get hung up with the idea that also you don't get a tax credit if you don't owe money to the IRS. If you're a person that constantly switches cars, getting an EV is pretty much a mute point. It's probably why you see a lot of used EVs in the market today and they have a significant depreciation value compared to hybrids/gas powered vehicles
It’s also a great car for seniors! We love ours and it’s a great road tripper. The charging stops actually make the overall trip more enjoyable and autopilot alleviates the fatigue of a long trip so you don’t feel so wiped out when you get to your destination. We have a 2021 Model Y too and I’ve noticed less phantom braking the last six months or so as well. I’ve been a subscriber since the early days and appreciate all the hard work you’ve done to bring great content to us all. Thanks so much!
For seniors I could not agree more. I remember when the Y just came out and I’d see older gents getting out of model 3s at chargers and it looked very uncomfortable. Model Y is so much easier to get in and out of
@@BeardedTeslaGuy 💯
Same for me 😊
The ride quality is so bad, my daughter gets sick every time on the road trip. My mother also bought a Y and she’s looking to get rid of hers; the car gives her a migraine. I love my Model Y. Tesla is a super cool toy that can accelerate like crazy. But other than that, I can’t recommend it to anyone who’s looking for typical comfort of a normal car.
@@BKNew2022 It’s true that the original Y’s ride is not great, but what you’re describing sounds pretty extreme and not normal. Then again, I remember taking my kids to school in a Honda Accord with a bad muffler and both kids complained about having a headache by the time I got them to school, so I understand. In terms of ride quality, I’d rate it a 7 for the size and weight that the Y is. And for $50K it really should be better but without an air suspension, they’ll need some engineering magic. Fortunately there are a lot more options out there now and more on the way. Good luck!
I also have 7 seater and have used it several times with all 7 passengers.
What I do is leave the Trunk blackout cover on so heat does not enter and point middle air vents up towards the roof/back.
We are in Puerto Rico and temp gets to 100 easily.
With this method I’ve felt cold in 3rd row with Ac at 70 degrees.
Good tip thanks for sharing
Another great informative video 🤙
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I don't think he's paid by tesla to do any of this...@@JonathanRootD
Appreciate it, and just like EVERYONE ELSE, no I am not paid by Tesla. Tesla doesn’t pay anyone to push their stuff
Excellent review; we picked up our model Y in May and it’s performed flawlessly. I love auto pilot and use it all the time when I’m stuck in traffic; I actually look forward to driving long distances now!
yea, long distance travel is nothing in a Tesla.
@@BeardedTeslaGuyHow are you liking your Model X?
Phantom breaking ? or assigned speed limits were there never were?
Zig Zig Ziggy flames indicating your proximity to something? I've had mine since March and they have a long way to go. I'm not totally impressed. My 2017 RAV4 parking backing up puts Tesla to shame. Bird's eye view gives an actual picture around the car. Having said that oh, it's great on the road at night when you're driving alone and in auto-steer. Voice commands are still terrible. It doesn't recognize me when I'm leaning against the car with my phone in the pocket. Don't you just love the rain gutters and the way they keep the water out of the car ... oh wait! I meant in the car.
Run to your car and a torrential rainstorm and get right in? Not a chance you are soaked! Shall I go on?
You guys act like this is special but new cars SHOULD NOT have issues😅 all new cars should basically be headache free for the first 5 years or so. They are literally designed that way. Then they are designed to fall apart. Keep in mind that 100% of model ys are less than 4 years old. They started being delivered in march 2020.
Great video very informative...
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for another great video! Why do the windshields break on these so easily?
... Probably following too close.
@@kradius2169 highly doubt it. Most Tesla drivers I’ve seen are pretty cautious.
@@vinilv1 ... I drove a Model Y many miles for 8 months in all kinds of traffic. Still had the original windshield.
Because of all the construction in my area. The road outside of my neighborhood is a 55 mph road so I have to go on a higher speed road every day
Our new in May MYLR has had a couple of stone hits on two 3k+ road trips. Two sounded like possible crack causing, but hardly a chip. Past new vehicles seemed to more easily get cracked windshields in early years. I thought maybe Tesla had spec'd a better glass, but maybe we were just fortunate with the stone hits. Since Tesla insures some of the vehicles, it would make sense to build for less claims.
I’m in the Clermont area as well. I recently visited the newly built service center and had a great experience. Lot better than the one in the Orlando area. We absolutely love our model Y, no complaints.
Hyundai Ioniq 5 owner here. I liked your video and thank you for it. About resale value and comparing to Toyota, you comparing normal car to one with the best reputation in America. Normal to have less value right now especially when warranty is about to end with new technology. I like your model Y but to my taste, missing one element, V2L. So useful when you need it like when electrical shortage happen and I use it when cost of electricity is too high and charge when price is very low. About Camp mode, (In Ioniq 5 it's called Utility mode) I got about the same result as you. Like 5-8% for sleeping all night (Tested 2-3 times at +30C and 2 times at -5C).
Yea vehicle to grid is coming with Cybertruck, and hopefully to the other models soon! Super useful
Brother "thank you" I learned a lot from your video. As my wife and I are looking to get into a new (EV). I learned a lot about the Teslas you own and the graphs were amazing and helped me see how your vehicles are doing over time.
Also, I did not know about the new January 2024, tax credit on the spot. We thought it would be given to us during the 2024 tax years in 2025. Thanks for making this informative video.
so glad it was helpful!
Excellent review
Thank you kindly
I guess my thoughts would be different today with lower price but i have the MYP and it is priced at luxury level and drives like a high tech fast civic or mustang. I can see why one likes it but it will depend on the buyer. For a heavy commuter like this i want more luxury and better fit and finish. To each their own though!
I did the math on my RAV4, with my mileage and services it will take 12 years for cost parity with the modelY, so not exactly cheaper to own a Tesla. This does not include the cost of insurance, I was shocked how much more Tesla was to insure.
The killer here in Illinois and guessing other states is registration cost. It’s double a ICE car. And can’t get custom or sports/hobby support plates for EV car maybe they will figure it out eventually
My son received 4000 dollar credit in June from work and will receive a 7500 dollar credit in January
The Rav 4 limited are selling for 46000 so the cost parity is only 6 months. You can buy a new model
Y today for 47000 . without the tax credits. I suppose you could save more money with a motorcycle
make sure you also factor in the tax credit that is now available for the Y that was not available back then
@@jamesavakian4977 I'm in Alberta Canada and I have tax credit included, extra cost in tires for Model Y nullifies my cost of oil changes after my free oil changes run out.I can't add in mechanical breakdowns for the Rav4 no more than you can the Model Y, I know you will all say the don't break down, well some owners have been having to pay almost $4000 for a new heating system(heat pump, octovalve ,etc)
@jamesavakian4977 Yeah, that's only due to politics and the law changing recently which now eliminates other EVs from getting the federal tax credit that used to get it. Including cars like the Rav4 Prime. Hopefully, the law will change again to reinstate the other foreign made EVs. Some of which are superior to Teslas. Give American buyers a level playing field to purchase the best car
which brand , type amd size of wheel rim did you place on your Y and tires , size and brand . Great Vid Ty
Good information…Thank you we own a M3LR
Excellent, congrats. How about registration, insurance, home charger and other costs on the Tesla when compared with the RAV. The price of a new RAV4 hybrid (premium with some options on their website) is 43k, but cannot find depreciation on both cars. Thanks
Insurance varies too widely, in my case it was cheaper than the Pacifica we traded in on it. The charger I already have, but I used the included mobile connector for the first 1.5 years without issue.
Entry height is important to me, and I really want an EV, so THANK YOU for demonstrating the seat height! Great review
You need to check the three rear bracket mount to the sub frame that hold the rear motor drive unit. My model y 2021 June with 107k miles. The left side bracket broke off . The ear bracket near the bumper has a crack line.. the bracket is not cover under drive unit warranty . Going. To cost at least 2k to replace all three bracket
Hmm, I don’t have anything happening that would have me look for an issue
Can we have the initial cost compare to the Rav4? How about the windshield repair costs? Any thoughts on time spent on charging given that the charger may not always be available out side of your home?
I have a plug-in hybrid and time to look for free charging at work is just unaccounted for.
I guess if you don’t mind waiting for charging and have time at work to find charging stations, then it might work out to some degree.
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
My biggest and only complaint on 2 of my Tesla's, is the paint. Right in front of the rear wheels, they get major chips from rocks. You must get ppf out on these spots BEFORE you drive it. My new Model y performance has been sitting in my garage for almost a month, so i could get ppf and ceramic coating done. I am taking it in on Monday to have that done. I still need to repair my other model y before i put ppf on that car. I should have done that right away. Lesson learned
Yep, I try to preach it on my vids!
Paint is garbage
Great job, I am considering model Y
Best all around car on the road today!
Great video. I like that you get deep into the details. I saw you compared charging vs gas and maintenance between a Tesla model Y and a Rav 4. One variable (I may have missed it) is the price of difference. In 2023, the base price Tesla model Y is $43,900 (non-negotiable) and a RAV4 is $27,975 (negotiable). I believe the RAV4 will have a smaller battery cost:)
Yes. People forget to add the total cost of the vehicle + maintenance.
Maybe its not a great deal in all states.
Here in NJ, u get 4k off if the price is under 45k and zero sales tax on EVs. Add that to the federal tax credit of 7500. Now the car is 31,500 with no sales tax and you are getting a car with waaaayyy more features than a rav4.
@@minogodawhich may be true. But will a model y last 15 years? Then you’ll have to buy another car.
@@kevinc2332Model Y should easily top 20 years. Range reduction is greatest in first 50,000 after that it becomes less by about half so at 15 years you’ll still be usable.
My local Toyota dealership is selling Rav4s for 46k not including tax, title, doc fees, and other mark ups
Ha-Ha my Brother! Amazing record keeping and I appreciate the excellent work on that chart of updates. 😀 I also loved the Free and nicely improved, as of last month, AutoPilot.
I have not done as good a job. I also have ~50k on my Model Y LR with white interior, towing, and roof racks (delivered 1/31/22).
By the way, how often do you ROTATE your TIRES because I am still on my original set and expect to get another 5-10k. For decades I have changed my Oil (Mobil 1 synthetic) and Rotated Tires every 5k miles! Perhaps you do it less often? I also do some towing but it is just a 15' Sailboat, a 17' fishing boat, and a 5x8 Box trailer 3-4 times when my truck was not available. Never more than 3000 lbs.
I really LOVE how the Model Y keeps getting fresher and better each couple of months. By the way, my Windshield is excellent, so far. My RAM Pick-Up gets more frequent windshield damage for some reason. Here are my experiences for my Garage Kept Model Y so far:
*** OTHER THAN faithfully topping off wiper fluid, cleaning my windshield (and blades with Sudsy Ammonia), rotating tires, and detailing each late spring/early summer ...
*** I changed wiper blades once ($50), I had a phone tech support once when my AC stopped working last summer, but by the end of reboots and the tech call, it was resolved.
*** In a week she goes in for the 50k check where I'll also change Cabin Filters (1st time), rotate tires as usual, and splurge on an alignment check/adjustment. Also sometime in the next 5-15k I'll replace these original tires.
Bottom line: this is Easily the cheapest car I have ever owned in my ~50Yrs of driving. Not even my VW 3 Bugs, 2 VW Cabriolets, 1 Golf GTI, 1 Mazda 3, or of course my various performance and track cars come close to this thing. 😎
MASSIVE KUDO's to @ElonMusk and the entire @Tesla team! By the way, after listening to Jason, on The Carmudgeon Show, my heart is all a pitter patter and dreaming of a Model 3+ Performance. 😛 How about you?
Lastly, HOW did you get to that BMS system reading INFO as I would love to see the condition or our Battery too! 😎
Cheers, Eric
Thanks! I am not good about rotating my tires, I need to do better. 10k is my target between rotates and every other, I have them done at a shop so they can balance them too.
So this is an older video, but it shows you how to access the data:
Tesla Model Y - Wait, it has a New Battery?!?!
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@@BeardedTeslaGuy thank you very much!
Sick drone shots!
Thanks!
You do consistently excellent videos. I have had a 3, Y and X. My biggest problem (so far) was with the Y, when the power steering just died. Car had to be towed on a flatbed truck. But Tesla paid for everything and loaned me a Model S during repairs. They even brought my Y out from Schaumburg so I didn't have to drive in and get it. Loaning me the S was brilliant as I later bought an X because of the great features -- air suspension, chilled seats, power doors, remarkable sound system, two extra screens, three years free supercharging and three months free FSD. I have love all of my Teslas, and can't imagine buying anything else -- unless my X starts having major problems.
Thanks for sharing your experience. The weak point on these Teslas is the 12v battery. That can shut down the car completely. Tesla finally moved to a Lithium replacement a couple years ago
@@BeardedTeslaGuywhen the 12v eventually dies will they replace it with the same old one or give you the new lithium one that new cars come with?
@@BeardedTeslaGuy Speaking of the new 16v lithium battery that's on my 2023 Model Y LR 7 seater with less than 6K miles and the car sitting on my driveway with battery at 77% that 16v battery drained itself completely and the car shutdown and remained locked couldnt use phone key or key card to gain access. Had to use jump starter to open the frunk using the wires under the round cap on the bumper. Car booted up and I checked in service mode the low voltage battery was 0% and being charged rapidly fast by the high voltage pack. Tesla fixed it by replacing high voltage controller and two weeks later it died again with battery at 74%. It's at the service center right now and I have a loaner model Y for the first time. This car has been in service for other minor things 5 times (I only got uber credits instead of loaner vehicle) and one of those times the main controller was replaced to get the USB C ports in the 3rd row working since it was dead from the factory and mobile service couldn't fix it by replacing the ports. Now I've started the lemon law process and thinking what to get next. Even if you get a perfect Tesla from factory what will be the cost of these controllers etc once out of warranty is my concern.
In Jan when you get benefit at time of sale, do they also eliminate the income limitations?
no
A kWh is closer to a pint of gas than anything else, so divide the kWh capacity by 8 to get the "gallons" an EV uses and multiply the efficiency by 8 to get the MPG.
In your case, 16,000 kWh is 2,000 gallons, and 3.2 miles per kWh is 25 miles per gallon (coming up with 50,000 miles).
Excellent video! Measuring the cool factor and updates gives this car the edge. However, the rest of the numbers dont pencil out imo. I am shopping for a Rav 4 Prime loaded (XSE ++) to replace my 4-Runner. Given limited depreciation numbers for the Prime its been difficult. But what I learned here is the Y is the perfect in town kid hauler to maximise its value as long as you dont live in higher speed construction areas.😊
The Prime is a great car under 40 miles a day, home charge at 120V, and take advantage of their free maintenance. Add the 600 mile overall range and self charging from the ICE? Pretty nice combo to avoid gas stations except on long road trips. The ICE maintenance goes down a lot when you hardly ever use it. And it's a Toyota. Their reliability kind of cancels out all the complexity of the PHEV.
An additional note - the residuals on the Prime if leasing aren't good, and wondering how those look on a Y.
As for the the charging cost...I was shocked at your numbers. Tesla has a great network but dang! I pay .11 all in in Texas.
Yea, charging at home exclusively makes it really cheap to operate
Great video. Only ask, compare the insurance with RAV4 as well.
I’ve had a 2021 Prius XLE for almost 3 years with zero problems of any kind. None. 55mpg average. I think it’s prob the most reliable car ever made. Hard to even consider spending more $$ for inevitable problems.
Prius is heavily underrated. My friends a mechanic for the nypd and he swears by them
I’ve owned 3 Prius. One from 2nd 3rd and 4th gen. I had zero issues. I now have a model 3 2022 rwd and I love it. I just have a fear of the maintenance costs or wait times for repairs. Insurance is a bit more expensive but from what I’ve been quoted from various companies a new Prius would have cost me about the same to ensure. Time will tell I guess.
@@Havoc2003414 thats really good to know.prius is known for being tanks
curious about the difference of Registration fees and insurance between the Rav 4 and the Y , im in California and i bet its quite a big difference. I would imagine the savings the Tesla offers makes up for those. im hoping?? thx just doing research before i dive into the electric car market. thx for the breakdown, good vid!
I live in Ohio and my registration fee is $200 more per year for full EV (on top of regular registration fee). My insurance is actually not much higher Vs previous gas car.
Yea there’s a difference, but it’s so location dependent. Here in FL, the registration is cheap for most any car so not much difference. Insurance is expensive for everything here though
I live in Utah and bought my Model Y LR in Feb of 2021. My insurance with 100/300/100 limits is just over 1,200 per year. That’s about 100 per year more than my 2014 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid. In Utah EVs pay higher registration to cover lost gas tax revenues. My registration for 2023 was about $340. Registration for my 2015 Ford F350 was $150. I’m at about 35,000 miles on original tires, but I also have a set of winter tires that I run from mid October to early April. Supercharging in Utah (peak times) is about .43 to .48 per kWh, while I pay .10 for charging at home.
The windshields really case me pause when calculating savings. We got our MY in february 2023 and my wife's daily commute already has the vehicle just under 21k miles. We have replaced the glass once... covered by insurance. Luckily our rates didn't go up, but looking at your numbers of having been done three times, that gives me a ticking time bomb feeling. I have never had to replace glass in my 20 years of driving.
... Just don't follow close. Fixed.
He has also taken it on a bunch of road trips, as has been documented in multiple videos, where speeds are higher, and debris is more likely to be kicked back at higher speeds. For city driving, at slower speeds, there's less of a chance of high speed debris cracking your windshield. If you are really worried, leave some extra room between you and the vehicle in front of you to lessen the chance of getting hit.
Not much I can really do about it. There’s soooo much construction and no one is responsible for keeping the roads cleared
@@kradius2169 when ours cracked we weren't following close lol. We don't drive any differently than we have for... 20 years of driving, as mentioned.
@@cyclopsvision6370 speeds are higher than what? My wife has a 100 mile highway commute. It's where ours broke... can't really maintain more than 3-5 car distances at all times. We don't tailgate.
I'm so jealous that you have ultrasonic sensors. I'm actually tempted to see if a body shop will swap out my bumpers and give me ultrasonics
Curious to see if this would work! I too have them and very glad I do since my garage space is tight!
The problem is if they did, you don’t have a way to activate them
This video is so good it makes me want to go buy one! And I already own one! haha. I love my Model Y
Haha thanks!
Do you buy the silicone wipers?
There is no substitute
My wipers are three years old and like new.
Great job on the informative video--thanks. I'm curious about one thing, however. When you say your cost for home charging is $0.13/kWh at home, are you including all of the other fees? I also have an MYLR (2023). Here in Massachusetts ("Taxachusetts"), we pay a touch over $0.14/kWh at home, but we also have 7 other fees that add up to an additional $0.256/kWh! Fortunately, I'm enrolled in our state's EV ChargeSmart program, where they give us a $0.05/kWh rebate for off-peak charging during summer months and $0.03/kWh rebate for the remaining months. Providing I charge at home during off-peak hours, we're actually paying $0.35/kWh during summer months. Right now, gasoline for our hybrid is actually cheaper than charging my Tesla at home. Fortunately, savings on the lack of maintenance and a lower carbon footprint (after first 6-12 months?) still makes my Tesla come out ahead. Are you saying that your home charging cost is really only $0.13/kWh with no other fees, not even a monthly customer charge (a % of customer charge/mo should be counted)? Thanks again for all of the great videos!
We only have a $17 connection fee, nothing else so I have to pay that with or without the Tesla so no I didn’t include that
51¢kWh here in Mchenery IL. Lame it’s actually cheaper to SC.
Wow--that is bad@@Ughthisagain
Thanks for the response, @@BeardedTeslaGuy. I was expecting that response--ha ha. You're certainly entitled to your opinion. I'd argue that the connection charge should be divided proportionately across every device in the home. If you add more electrical devices, the connection cost per device goes down and just the opposite if you take away devices. If you took away every electrical device except for your heater, for example, the full connection fee would be inextricably attributed to the heater. Let's face it, if you had no electrical devices in the home, you wouldn't need any electricity. Therefore, every electrical device is associated with a percentage of the connection fee. Since a Tesla is often the largest load within most homes, certainly mine, a large percentage of the connection fee should be associated with the car. My Model Y consumes about 60% of the total power of my house, so I apply 60% of the monthly connection fee to the cost of charging my Tesla. That's my point of view anyway.
Camera quality looking sharp
cheers!
I need a new car soon and in the market for the MYP 2023. But i’m also reluctant as I think they may refresh it in 2024? And I would love the cooled seats, I also like the middle cluster of the X..such a hard decision but leaning towards buying a Y now and hopefully resell when they refresh. What are your thoughts?
The Model Y is expected to be 6 months behind the Model 3 refresh. Just an estimate.
I would expect Atleast a year for the Model y Refresh. Maybe late 2024 or early '25.
If you are OK with taking a $10k-$15k depreciation hit, go for it.
With the recent Tesla price drops, how much has your Tesla depreciated in comparison to the same RAV4?
Years ago on your first MY you installed sound proofing strips, did they make any difference? My ‘21 MY is noisy on some highways. It seems to be coming from the rear doors, hatch.
Yep, I did the same on this car too
@@BeardedTeslaGuy thanks, what product did you use?
Kind of looked like the Clermont region in this video then saw what I'm sure is Lake Louisa State Park. Love that area!
Thanks, how about the time spent in charging (mainly while on the road)? Might be interesting to account for that as well, time = money!
My biggest regret was not getting the white seats on my MY. The white is amazing.
It's so amazing. I love it
In your comparison to a RAV 4 How do you take into consideration replacing the battery's into cost of owning?
Very insightful I honestly thought I would be saving more with an electric car but didn’t realize charging was so expensive and can’t charge at my apartment.
Great video! What brand coating do you put on your seats once a year? Would you recommend it even with black seats? Thanks!
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The Toyota RAV4 Hybrid version would have been a better comparison. Gas mileage is about 40 MPG, and has fewer parts to fail than the regular gas powered RAV4... Here in the northwest, if you get into an accident with a Tesla, you can expect to wait about 5 -6 months to get it repaired....
Is there a video on the smaller wheels that you put on? I could not find a video.
right here th-cam.com/video/P80YaMI_hAw/w-d-xo.html
I do like Tesla for innovation in EV space. However, financially it still makes no sense for most people. Your comp was RAV4. Well, it is indeed 2x the money in gas to drive the same 50k.
No biggy since it does not cost 54k / 15k saving. Insurance is also half of what you pay for Tesla / about 4k saving in 5 years. Maintenance on RAV4 is dirt cheap if you diy it. With the extra cost of tires on Tesla you will probably still save money.
Now consider the average age of a vehicle on the road is 11 years, RAV4 will easily make it to 15 or more if you take care of it. Maintenance of Tesla after warranty expires will total it mechanically, battery 20k, electric motor 5k not counting shop labor.
So after warranty expires Tesla is an expensive paperweight. It only makes sense if you keep it within warranty period, then you still take a huge financial hit due to depreciation.
Do you recommend waiting until January for a MY purchase due to Point of Sale change?
Beautiful video
Thank you
I live in Tucson and just got hit in my Model 3 this week. How bad was it to get the fender replaced? Did it take a long time?
I was lucky, only had to replace a wheel, fender plastic trim, the tire and the PPF on the fender.
@@BeardedTeslaGuy But how long was that process for you? A couple days? A week? A month?
@@JustinAZ I was lucky that the guys at one of the Tesla stores in Phoenix were able to get me a wheel and back on the road next day. The fender trim, tire and PPF replacement I did myself so it was on my time, and as quickly as I was able to do it.
I’m looking to buy a used 2021 model Y. I’m a little nervous but excited to potentially take the leap.
Nice congrats!