imagine , IAM a god then I made myself a human being to save people whom I created from a sin they did not do and the only way I can save them by killing myself. Then, when the time came to my death (crucifixion) I prayed to me and begged me to save me then I refused my prayer and killed me and iam 3 but 1.....!
God is one .. Convert to islam brother ...You will find what you'r looking for in the holy Quran ....I'm praying for you ...love from Algeria North Africa
To everyone on this page, allow the Holy Spirit to reveal the trinity to you. You don't have to explain it to anyone. He will teach you what you need to know. Stay blessed everyone.
John chapter 20 Verse 27-28 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Matthew chapter 3 verses 16-17 shows the Trinity 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. John 1 King James Version 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Genesis 1 King James Version 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus Muslim: is Jesus the son of Mary, Christian: Yes Muslim: Who created Mary? Christian: God, Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus Muslim:Jesus is the begotten son Christian: Yes Muslim: Who is his father? Christian: God. Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus. Muslim Jesus is a servant of God Christian: Yes Muslim: Jesus died on the cross? Christian: Yes Muslim: Is Jesus a messenger. Christian: Yes Muslim: Who sent him? Christian: God. Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus. Muslim: Did Jesus worship while on earth Christian: Yes Muslim: Whom did he worship? Christian: God. Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus. Muslim: Did God have a beginning Christian: No Muslim: Then who was born on 25/DEC? Christian: Jesus. Muslim: Is Jesus God. Christian: Yes Muslim: Where's God? Christian: In heaven, Muslim: How many Gods are there in heaven? Christian: Only one God. Muslim: Where's Jesus? Christian: He is seated on the right hand of his father. Muslim: Then how many are they in heaven? Christian: Only one God. Muslim: Then how many seats? Christian: one Muslim: where's Jesus? Christian: Seated next to God. Muslim: How are they seated on one chair? Christian: Its only understood by those with the Ghost. You need Ghost my friend.
@@peace_seeker5545what you wrote is called Modalism or Oneness which is the false teaching that each person of the TRINITY is only personality of the FATHER. Christians believe in GOD who is FATHER, SON and HOLY SPIRIT. They are separate but all are one GOD. John 1 : 1 in almost all versions "In the Beginning was the WORD and the WORD was with GOD and the WORD was GOD." JESUS was with GOD the FATHER from the beginning as the WORD. The HOLY SPIRIT proceeds from the FATHER by the authority of JESUS (John 14 : 15 through 20 and 26). JESUS is GOD the FATHER'S ONLY begotten SON (John 3 : 16). Through CHRIST all things were created and cannot exist without him (Colossians 1 : 16 and 17). The Bible is simple to understand. The Bible doesn't say JESUS is the FATHER and HOLY SPIRIT.
God concept in islam is very easy and simple God is one . He has no partners . No son . Jesus is one of his messengers . He created him miraculously without father .
@Rose For starters the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit don't have different abilities. They are genetically the same (perfect). For seconds, Mohammad is a false prophet that was a pedophile, rapist, and murderer. I'm proudly an infidel!
Actually really liked this. Keep it simple. The only missing part was the clarification that each person is also fully 100% God-that God’s essence is one and not divided into three parts.
If the Trinity does not make sense to you when reading the Bible please feel free to send me a private message. I am not looking to get into any debates but there are those who read the Bible and do not believe in the Trinity in the traditional sense. If something about it has never sat right with you feel free to send me a message and we can talk about it. For anyone unsure I can tell you this much... I believe that everything which is written in the bible is true and I do my absolute best to understand only what the Bible tells us, referring heavily to the language which it was written in by the original authors. Nothing more and nothing less. The English translations of the Bible are where the majority of the confusion surrounding this topic appear to arise.
The Trinity certainly doesn't even make sense even to those who supposedly are forced to believe it. Jesus shied away from the notion of he being God. Luke 18:19 Jesus said to him: “Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except one, God. Jesus also called his God, the ONLY TRUE GOD. John 17:3 This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ. Believing what the bible DOES TEACH is safer that trying to make the Bible teach what we want it to teach.
@@tongakhan230 I totally agree, I do not believe the bible preaches the Trinity, I believe it is a man made interpretation of scriptural passages and is largely due to the confusion caused by translating into English.
If u need help I’ll understand. Basically the Christian trinity consist of God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. The difference is that God is the one who created the universe and etc etc. Jesus was sent after the old testament to get humanity right with God, because of our sin and rebellion when Adam and Eve ate the fruit. Basically Jesus was 100 human, 100 God. He was both 100, and not 50/50 because he was in a Human form, but he had God in him, that’s also why he was perfect. So Jesus was just God, but in a human form. Then we have to Holy Spirit. The holy spirit is just what lingers around both the earth and the Heavens. Just like any other “ghost” or bad spirit. Except the Holy Spirit is a good one it is God’s spirit. God made Jesus and the Holy Spirit to be where he couldn’t, I mean yea he could come down on earth but u get what I mean, unless u don’t I’d be happy to go into more detail.
@@ar1xyz If God created man and man's feelings, pain and emotion then why did he have to come down in human form to experience all of that. He is God isn't he. And what exactly is the purpose of the holy spirit. Why was bible written years after jesus by someone who didnt even personally know him. What makes it holy?
@@sasnad3 Actually it’s not just 1 person who wrote it. There are about 50+ authors if I’m correct but I know there’s more than just one or two. Second, that could be me asking you what makes the Quran holy, but what makes the Bible holy is that it was written by multiple people with amazing stories and talks about the amazing God Yahweh. And also proof that it wasn’t written by ine persin way after Jesus hit the scence, is that there are four gospels. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. They were some of Jesus’s disciples, and I think John’s written by Jesus’s cousin, but 1,2,3 John by his disciple, anyways the four gospels are just about different point of views from each of his disciple. But in total he had 12. I hope I answered all ur questions right there?
There are many Christian denominations that teaches the Trinity. However, notice what the Encyclopedia Britannica states: “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies.” Try sticking to what the bible says and that God is the Father, Jesus is his son and our savior and the Holly Spirit is God's active force. "After Jesus brings about Kingdom blessings to earth, he will hand over the Kingdom to his God and Father - 1 Cor 15:24 “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.”-John 17:3. “You, whose name is Jehovah (Yahweh) , you alone are the Most High over all the earth.”-Psalm 83:18. “My Father is greater than I [Jesus].”-John 14:28. * “I [Jesus] ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and your God.”-John 20:17. “To us there is but one God, the Father.”-1 Corinthians 8:6. “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”-1 Peter 1:3. “These things saith the Amen [Jesus], . . . the beginning of the creation of God.”-Revelation 3:14. * "No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him". John 1:18 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Mathew 7:21 "Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One.10 Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ.11 But the greatest one among you must be your minister" Mathew 23.9 "Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’ Mathew 7:22-23
God isn't weak, dependent or ignorant as Jesus was, also God doesn't need to pray to God and beg him for help like Jesus did. Don't worship a brown middle-eastern man that never asked to be worshipped or EVER said "I am God"
"Trinity" is an oral teaching by St. Augustine when he says "The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. God exalts Himself". St. Augustine is a Roman Catholic monk.
Where does the 3 in 1 was from? The bible didn't pay serious focus on that. Why does church claims it to be true? Sometimes I even hear people confused in their prayer when calling out both to Jesus and God. However, Jesus himself teach us how to pray, which was not praying to him, but only in his name.
I'm by no means knowledgeable enough to speak with any authority on this, but the way I think of it is that over time, it became obvious and logically certain that Christ The Son, The Father, and The Holy Spirit were actually three parts of one whole, that while separate beings, they exist as one. Think of it like this, there's body mind and spirit. The three, while separate and distinct entities, they are YOU. You exist as a body, mind and a spirit.
God created us in His image so He could be known by His creation. This simply means we are limited copies of the trinity; mind, body and spirit all combined to form a single being. This is the only way we could possibly question our existence, seek to know God or understand the Trinity. With the Holy Trinity there is: Father (mind) Son (body) Holy Spirit (spirit)
@@dud3man6969 well let's take it from the Scriptures then... Now may the God of peace himself sanctify you completely. And may your whole spirit, soul, and body be kept sound and blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Thessalonians 5:23 🙂
The Gospel is not meant to be a confusing, bewildering puzzle. If it took 381 years after the resurrection to figure out all the difficult details of the Trinity Doctrine... maybe it's incorrect?
There's a book which anyone who wants to know more about the basics of the Blessed Triniy should get hold of: it's titled "Theology and Sanity", by Frank Sheed, published by Ignatius Press. In its 400-plus pages, it devotes a 30-plus section to the Doctrine of the Trinity. One reviewer of this book wrote: "Of Sheed's many books, this is my favourite, not just because it includes the clearest explanation of the Trinity ever put on paper..." Only the Perfect. Infinite, Eternal God can ever know Himself totally, but this book sheds a worthwhile amount of light on the Inner Life of God...and what it says makes perfect sense.
TRINITY EXPLAINED:- JESUS CHRIST IS TRUE GOD ✝️❤️ Contradiction is "A" and Not "A" at same time. Eg: "Three beings in one being!" Or "Three persons in one person!" is Contradiction. But, Christians (Catholic) beleive that "Three persons in one being (One God)!". It's not Contradiction 💯👍 So that, 1 God = 3 Persons & 3 Persons are God ✝️ In this world, 1 being = 1 Person. But in the case of God, 1 being = 3 persons🔥🔥🔥 On the human level one person is one being, and any two persons are two beings. But, God is another dimension. DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF GOD & HIS TRUTHS. AMEN 🙏 🌹"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "Before Abraham was born, I AM" - JOHN 8:58 🌹In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth - GENESIS 1:1 🌹In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God - JOHN 1:1 🌹The word became a flesh & lived here with us - JOHN 1:14 I BELIEVE IN ONE GOD & HOLY TRINITY ✝️
Why do we need extra biblical sources or someone or something other than the bible to understand the Trinity?...it should be revealed clear in sctipture....it's not someone trying to extrapolate something in scripture that's supposed to be clear as day.
@@javierdelgado1554 Where in the bible does it say that everything in it will be obvious and clear for everyone? If anything it says the opposite, that there are difficult things in it that some twist to their own destruction (2 Peter 3:15-16)
@@aaronmueller5802 what's hard to understand about Deuteronomy 6:4?...this gentleman is suggesting a book in order to get "a better understanding" on the nature of God?..God doesn't need our help in explaining who he is.
God isn't weak, dependent or ignorant as Jesus was, also God doesn't need to pray to God and beg him for help like Jesus did. Don't worship a brown middle-eastern man that never asked to be worshipped or EVER said "I am God"
TRINITY EXPLAINED:- JESUS CHRIST IS TRUE GOD ✝️❤️ Contradiction is "A" and Not "A" at same time. Eg: "Three beings in one being!" Or "Three persons in one person!" is Contradiction. But, Christians (Catholic) beleive that "Three persons in one being (One God)!". It's not Contradiction 💯👍 So that, 1 God = 3 Persons & 3 Persons are God ✝️ In this world, 1 being = 1 Person. But in the case of God, 1 being = 3 persons🔥🔥🔥 On the human level one person is one being, and any two persons are two beings. But, God is another dimension. DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF GOD & HIS TRUTHS. AMEN 🙏 🌹"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "Before Abraham was born, I AM" - JOHN 8:58 🌹In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth - GENESIS 1:1 🌹In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God - JOHN 1:1 🌹The word became a flesh & lived here with us - JOHN 1:14 I BELIEVE IN ONE GOD & HOLY TRINITY ✝️.
Does Trinity an Excuse For Idolatry? • Trinitarian - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit • Babylonian - Nimrod, Simeramus, and Tammuz • Ancient Egypt - Osiris, Isis, and Horus • Ancient Meccans - Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat • Greek mythology - Zeus, Poseidon, and Adonis • Ancient Roman - Jupiter, Juno, and Minerva • Hinduism - Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva • Human sacrifice ( Jesus's crucifixion) is paganistic • You shall have no other gods before me ( God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit ) • You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything • You shall not bow down to them or worship them; 7 Pagans Festival • Christmas. ( Sol Invictus, the Unconquered Sun ) • New Year's Day. ( Roman god; Janus ) • Easter. ( goddess Eostre ) • The Roman version of Halloween. ( memory of the Dead ) • May 1st - Labor Day. ( goddess Maia ) • Epiphany or Three Kings Day. ( goddess Diana ) • Saint John's Eve. ( goddess Fortuna )
This makes perfect sense! Let me add; our understanding is limited to what we know as humans. How would any of you be able to explain that God always was? We can say it, but our minds don't really comprehend this, because humans only know a beginning & an end. That's where faith comes in.
I mean.. I think that's basically how I first came to know about the trinity. But when I try to think about it more and try to intellectualize it, I start drawing up analogies, like the ones made in the first half of the video. Then get told that my analogies are an example of modalism and not the trinity. So I just get confused to no end.
simple explanation for you is. Imagine trinity like a family. father, son, and sister. all three share one blood, the blood in the Father, son, sister is what we refer to as God. meaning Jesus has the nature of God, but hes not the Father and is not the spirit. again, if you imagine it like a family one blood, its easier to understand.
Hi Guts, No matter how they explain it, the Trinity is not biblical. Consider the following. To believe that Jesus is God is to disregard the bible as a whole. It is not surprising that Cardinal Hosius is quoted as having said: “We believe the doctrine of a triune God, because we have received it by tradition, though not mentioned at all in Scripture.” (Conf. Cathol. Fidei, Chap. XXVI). Another persons are just as frank about declaring the trinity to be of pagan origin is Arthur Weigall, in his book The Paganism in Our Christianity, states: “Jesus Christ never mentioned such a phenomenon, and nowhere in the New Testament does the word ‘Trinity’ appear.” Even the Pope recently has been quoted as saying that Jesus is not God. I have included the links to prove this. th-cam.com/video/jVz8CGkRieo/w-d-xo.html . Note the following link which the Vatican did not deny these claims. th-cam.com/video/etmDA1zNPyE/w-d-xo.html . John 17:3 encourages us “And this is the way to have eternal life-to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth”. 1 John 2:3 reiterates this importance by stating “And we can be sure that we know him if we obey his commandments”. 1John:6 gives us this warning about our worship to God: “So we are lying if we say we have fellowship with God but go on living in spiritual darkness; we are not practicing the truth. - New Living Translation. So consider the following. Another blatant scriptural fact that Christendom ignores and does not teach is, that unlike God whose name is Jehovah, Jesus is God’s first creation, and had a beginning (which is correct when John 1:1 reads that in the beginning the word was with God… Since God has no beginning, this isn’t talking about God, but Jesus) which is clearly the main reason he is not God. - This is what Colossians 1:15 says about Jesus: “The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation” - New International Version. This is why Jesus is described as God’s only begotten or first born son. It not only says that Jesus was God’s first creation in Colossians 1:15 but in 8 other verses in the bible also. Please read also Revelation 3:14, Psalms 89:27, Proverbs 8:22, 27 to 30, Hebrews 1:5&6, Romans 1:7, Matthew 3:16&17 & John17:3 & 8, Psalms 89:27 to confirm this for yourself. Can you categorically deny that these scriptures say that Jesus was God’s first creation? Nowhere in the bible does God Jehovah, Jesus, or the Apostles say that Jesus is God. In fact the opposite is true and factual since Jehovah God himself states that he is alone God. Psalms 83:18 which reads “That men may know that you, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, are the most high over all the earth” - American King James Version. Isiah 42:8 says “I am Jehovah, that is my name; and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise unto graven images” American Standard Version. Also confirmed in Exodus 34:14 says “For thou shalt worship no other God; for Jehovah -- Jealous is his name -- is a jealous God;” - Darby Bible Translation.
Jesus himself stated that he is not God. In fact many times he said he was not God. John 20:17 reads “Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God” New King James Version. At Mark 15:34 it also reads “And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?” which is translated, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” New King James Version. Jesus knew that he was not God, because he instructed that worship should be directed to his Father Jehovah and not to him. Mark 10:18 states “"Why do you call me good?" Jesus asked him. "Nobody is good except for one-God. - International Standard Version. The apostles also confirms this for us. What is interesting is that everything written about Jesus after John was completed after his return to heaven. So 1Corinthians 11:3 also confirms that Jesus was not God in heaven also since it reads: “But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God” New King James Version. Please also note, Philippians 2:6 states “Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;” - New International Version. This is confirmed by Jesus himself many times, but note what he says towards the end of his life on Earth, at John 14:28 : “You have heard Me say to you, ‘I am going away and coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, ‘I am going to the Father,’ for My Father is greater than I”. - New King James Version. The bible is very clear on this point. Jehovah is God, and Jesus is his first creation which he calls his first born. 1John 4:9 & 10 states: “In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.” - New King James Version. Does it state there or anywhere else in the bible that he sent himself or God sent any part of himself to the earth? No. There are other scriptures that also confirms that Jesus is not God but his first born or his creation. John 3:16 states: “For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.” - New Living Translation. John 3:18 continues “Anyone who believes in him is not condemned, but anyone who does not believe is already condemned, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God.” - Christian Standard Bible. No scripture exists to confirm definitively that Jesus is God. Jesus himself never says that he is God, and the apostles and disciples never wrote that he was God. Note what 2Corinthians 1:3 says: “All praise to God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. God is our merciful Father and the source of all comfort”. - New Living Translation. 1 Corinthians 10:20&21 tells us to stay away from pagan teachings “lest we want to be sharers with the demons”. The origin of the Trinity can be dated back to early Egyptians and Babylonians. It was only incorporated into Christianity after the 3rd Century by pagan Christians. Colossians 2:8 warns us then: “See to it, then, that no one enslaves you by means of the worthless deceit of human wisdom, which comes from the teachings handed down by human beings and from the ruling spirits of the universe, and not from Christ”. - Good News Translation. Unfortunately, not only is the teaching that Jesus is God, but Christendom as a whole has whole heartedly embraced other pagan false teachings into the bible, such as the Cross, Christmas, Easter, Hell, Saint Worship, none of which the first century or the Christians of the bible believed, taught or followed. If you want to worship the one and only true God acceptably, find a Church which has rejected all these pagan teachings. First benefit is as stated in John 8:32 - You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. Did you notice that the first step is to know the truth. And the first main truth that Jesus taught was that when we pray, we should first pray for the sanctification of God’s name against Satan’s lies. Jesus said all praise should go to his God and Father as he instructed in the Lord’s Prayer before we pray for anything the first thing we should pray for is as found in Matthew 6:9: “You should pray like this: Our Father in heaven, help us to honor your name”. - Contemporary English Version. Note, Jesus was confirming what the scriptures say, that his God, and their God is the same, That his father in Heaven and their father in heaven is one in the same also because Jesus confirmed for us in his own words in this scripture “Our father in heaven”. This is the bad side of not knowing or wanting to know the truth about God and his son Jesus. Those that continue to believe that Jesus is God, and not God’s first creation and first born son as written in the bible and mentioned above can also be likened to Cardinal Hosius was quoted in the outset having said: “We believe the doctrine of a triune God, because we have received it by tradition, though not mentioned at all in Scripture.” (Conf. Cathol. Fidei, Chap. XXVI), however, note what Jesus says about those who incorporate false and pagan traditions into true worship as found in Mark 7:6-9: “Jesus replied: You are nothing but show-offs! The prophet Isaiah was right when he wrote that God had said, "All of you praise me with your words, but you never really think about me. It is useless for you to worship me, when you teach rules made up by humans. You disobey God's commands in order to obey what humans have taught. You are good at rejecting God's commands so that you can follow your own teachings!” - Contemporary English Version. Mark 7:13 highlights the folly of worship taught from man and not God. Jesus said “You are destroying the word of God through your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many other things like that." - International Standard Version. Find the truth and absolute truth about God, Jesus and his other teachings. This will mean everlasting life as stated in John 3:16 “For God loved the world in this way: so much that he would give up his Son, The Only One, so that everyone who trusts in him shall not be lost, but he shall have eternal life”. - Aramaic Bible in Plain English.
@@robertmyers6865 You were half right in your second sentence.. They're 3 separate persons, but one being. Just like how you have a President, Vice President, and Secretary of Defense.. 3 different persons, but one government entity. God: Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit = 3 persons, one God.
TRINITY EXPLAINED:- JESUS CHRIST IS TRUE GOD ✝️❤️ Contradiction is "A" and Not "A" at same time. Eg: "Three beings in one being!" Or "Three persons in one person!" is Contradiction. But, Christians (Catholic) beleive that "Three persons in one being (One God)!". It's not Contradiction 💯👍 So that, 1 God = 3 Persons & 3 Persons are God ✝️ In this world, 1 being = 1 Person. But in the case of God, 1 being = 3 persons🔥🔥🔥 On the human level one person is one being, and any two persons are two beings. But, God is another dimension. DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF GOD & HIS TRUTHS. AMEN 🙏 🌹"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "Before Abraham was born, I AM" - JOHN 8:58 🌹In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth - GENESIS 1:1 🌹In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God - JOHN 1:1 🌹The word became a flesh & lived here with us - JOHN 1:14 I BELIEVE IN ONE GOD & HOLY TRINITY ✝️
I recently heard from some people that the commanded of Jesus about baptising in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit was added later in the 4th century, but that the apostles baptised in the name of Jesus. What would you say to this?
The simplest way to understand the trinity is by explaining that Philo of Alexandria was the first to teach a trinity. It was adopted by the catholic fathers, made law by Rome, received by the Reformers. From there it has spread to many church denominations.
@@uccppanabo7516 Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus Muslim: is Jesus the son of Mary, Christian: Yes Muslim: Who created Mary? Christian: God, Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus Muslim:Jesus is the begotten son Christian: Yes Muslim: Who is his father? Christian: God. Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus. Muslim Jesus is a servant of God Christian: Yes Muslim: Jesus died on the cross? Christian: Yes Muslim: Is Jesus a messenger. Christian: Yes Muslim: Who sent him? Christian: God. Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus. Muslim: Did Jesus worship while on earth Christian: Yes Muslim: Whom did he worship? Christian: God. Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus. Muslim: Did God have a beginning Christian: No Muslim: Then who was born on 25/DEC? Christian: Jesus. Muslim: Is Jesus God. Christian: Yes Muslim: Where's God? Christian: In heaven, Muslim: How many Gods are there in heaven? Christian: Only one God. Muslim: Where's Jesus? Christian: He is seated on the right hand of his father. Muslim: Then how many are they in heaven? Christian: Only one God. Muslim: Then how many seats? Christian: one Muslim: where's Jesus? Christian: Seated next to God. Muslim: How are they seated on one chair? Christian: Its only understood by those with the Ghost. You need Ghost my friend.
“Each of the three Persons in the blessed Trinity is concerned with our salvation: With the Father it is predestination; with the Son propitiation; with the Spirit regeneration. The Father chose us; the Son died for us; the Spirit quickens us. The Father was concerned about us; the Son shed His blood for us; the Spirit performs His work within us. What the One did was eternal, what the Other did was external, what the Spirit does is internal.” -A.W. Pink
@J M....thus why Christ is the 2nd in the Trinity. The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. All working for our salvation. But don't get lazy. For you must be a workman for Christ.
@J M....Jesus of Nazareth is of the same substance as the Father, equal to Him in deity (Ath. Cr. 31, 33). Christ is not a lesser God. When the second person of the Godhead became a man, God didn’t compromise Himself and change into something lesser than He was. Christ is “the image of the invisible God” (Col. 1:15). “In him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily” (Col. 2:9). He is the “brightness of [God’s] glory and the express image of his person” (Heb. 1:3). God reveals Himself as a triune being: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. “The whole three persons are co-eternal, and co-equal” (Ath. Cr. 26). In the incarnation, Christ did not shed His glory as a snake sheds its skin; He veiled His glory in humanity. Those who see Jesus see God (John 14:9).
@J MJesus isn’t almost like us. He didn’t come as close to experiencing full humanity as God could come without going all the way. He had a real body and soul (Ath. Cr. 32) because He was really human. Jesus’ conception was extraordinary (Matt. 1:20); the rest of His development as a man was mundanely human. The Bible describes His birth in very typical fashion. “When the fullness of time had come God sent forth His son, born of a woman” (Gal. 4:4). He was nourished from Mary’s body. He matured through the same phases as others. He was subject to pain, pleasure, hunger, thirst, fatigue, disappointment, suffering, and death. He thought, reasoned, and felt as a man. The Bible puts it plainly: “In all things He had to be made like His brethren” (Heb. 2:17) because only as a real man could Christ be “in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin” (Heb. 4:15).
@J M The relation of Christ’s natures to His person is mysterious, but it is important. If we fail to recognize the unity of Christ’s person, we might see Him as divine with some human characteristics or as human with some divine characteristics or as a confused combination of the two. Jesus is one Christ with both a human nature and a divine nature, and these natures do not bleed together. In Christ, God added to Himself our humanity, while continuing to be God.
The point of the Trinity is not to question the single essence of God, but rather to comprehend the energies of God, or how a single God, who's outside the created world, manifests himself in the created world, so the Hypostasis are the eternal manifestations of God, or more precisely the Spirit of God/Parakletos stands for God's relation with anything in the created world, the Word of God/Logos stands for God's actions in the created world, while the Pater is not exactly a manifestation, but rather the source of both Hypostasis, outside the created world.
The closest physical comparison that has occurred to me to describe the Trinity are 3 lit matchsticks creating 1 flame; each its own separate matchstick but creating one indistinguishable flame
I prefer God presents Himself in His 3 'works' that human's brain can recognize. Limiting our brain to understand it whether by reducing or rejecting His way of works is a mistake. Instead recognize, accept and understand it as it is like a child because The Bible is filled with His wisdom. If human's brain is able to understand His presence as a whole then he is not THE God. Understand that we don't see His true presence yet He humbled Himself to teach His perfect standard again so we are able to know Him as Savior, as Prophet, as Father, as Son Of God, as Holy Spirit, as Son Of David, as Almighty, as The First and The Last, who is and who was and who is to come, as a friend, as a teacher etc. He is what He is. Genesis 1:1-3 John 1:1-3 Isaiah 45:21 Declare what is to be, present it- let them take counsel together. Who foretold this long ago, who declared it from the distant past? Was it not I, the LORD? And there is no God apart from Me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none but Me.
Jose, the problem with that analogy is that those 3 sticks are exactly the same in function. God is different from Jesus. Jesus got send by the father and says the father is greater then I. And I do not know of the hour, only the father does. If 1 is greater or better then the other. It can not possibly be 1.
Chevy chelios, so do you think that if God is 1,we understand what He is? We still have no clue of what He is or even how it's possible that He is outside of time or does not even have a beginning. Trust me there is alot of mystery without that trinity concept.
@@O_tropos agreed, there is no perfect comparison yet this serves to show how 3 individual identities can exist in creating 1 essence - Father, Son and Holy Spirit as One essence.
“To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.” (Isaiah 8:20) When a man and woman marry they become one… “Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.” (Genesis 2:24) This does not now mean that they are both one person, but rather that they are united as one. Christ states plainly that He and His Father are one, meaning united in purpose like man and wife, which is an analogy of Christ and His Church. Christ whilst on Earth, praying to His Father (Two beings) explained this point… “That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:” (John 17:21-22) Therefore, the Father and Son are one, even as the disciples were to be one. Does this now make the disciples one being? No, that’s folly. It means united in purpose. When Christ sent the Holy Spirit He called Him a He, for the Holy Spirit was to come as His ambassador to teach us the truth. Why? Because when God the Son entered into a human body, He lost His ability to be omnipresent. Christ is our High Priest interceding for us on our behalf and cannot leave the sanctuary until that work is complete. For this reason He sent the Holy Spirit on His behalf to teach us the truth. Therefore, you have three persons that make up God, all united in one purpose…“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:” (Matthew 28:19) This is the Godhead, not the trinity which is a false pagan counterfeit of the true. Use your Bible, not your own mind which is evil… “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” (Jeremiah 17:9) God bless
Revelation 4 where it gives us the clear picture what is in heaven and how the positions look like did not on the throne didn't show us anything trinitarian
@@abgoodman7490 The doctrine of the Trinity is all over the book of John's Revelation.. here's one example, Revelation 1:4-6 "To the seven churches in the province of Asia: Grace and peace to you from Him (God the Father) who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits [the sevenfold Spirit (the Holy Spirit)] before His throne, and from Jesus Christ (the Son), who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood (the Son), and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve His God and Father (the Father) -to Him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen."
Why would I ever want to understand the Trinity? Even if there is a simple way to do that, why should I have any interest in understanding the Trinity? What would be the point? The simplest way to understand God is to begin learning from the Bible. It's all about him and his Son Jesus Christ, and walking by the Spirit of God in obedience and finding that life that Jesus came to give us, having delivered us out of darkness by his life given to us, even unto the death of the cross. I was just listening to John MacArthur talking about some 25 million Pentecostals that he calls Oneness Pentecostals and the danger of that doctrine such that if one believes that they could not be saved. At least I think that's what he was saying, but what does the Bible say? It says believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved. It says if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus Christ and believe in your heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. If 25 million Pentecostals do that, then 25 million of them can be saved, even from Oneness doctrines or whatever it is. Yes, God has given us that much power, power over all the works of the enemy. Do you find that kind of power in the Trinity doctrine? Can that save a man? Well, God will be the judge about that one, won't he? I've heard testimony of people who were shown hell, who visited hell, and some of them talk about seeing Christians there. How did they get there? Where did they go wrong? There are lots of ways to go wrong, I suppose, but believing in Christ isn't one of them. You never go wrong when you believe in Christ, when you truly do that as God commands. He's the only one that can get a man into heaven, that is, nobody can get into heaven without him.
Melody Making Melodies.: Not all religious beliefs are based on logic. Using logic you can't even explain why one sabbath day a week is better than two sabbath days. You observe one sabbath because that's what your scripture prescribes. You believe in Trinity because of what has been revealed in the Scripture. Having said that I will tell you why human logic does not help you understand Trinity according to which one infinite God manifests Himself in 3 infinite divine forms. So logically you may be asking can one infinite divine power be resolved into 3 infinite divine powers? Mathematically, is infinity = infinity + infinity + infinity? The answer is YES which you may verify with any student of Calculus. But this equation cannot be proved logically because infinity defies logic. You can't even do the addition ( 1/0) + ( 1/0) + (1/0) on your calculator because each number 1/0 is infinite in magnitude and it defies the algebra logic. However , the equation infinity + infinity + infinity = infinity is intuitively true. in the sense if you assume it to be true you always land correct result You must also remember if a certain concept does not make logical sense to you that does not necessarily mean the concept is wrong. Only about a dozen scientists with IQ greater than 160 can understand Einstein's Theory of Relativity. Average people like you and I cannot understand it. Can we say then the Theory of Relativity is false? I being a mathematician I do understand the intuitive idea that one infinity can be resolved into three infinities and so one infinite divine power can manifest Himself in three infinite divine forms. You may not understand it due to lack of basic knowledge of Calculus. So you may certainly say Trinity doesn't make sense to you and I respect your opinion. But you ought not say Trinity is false. Here is a simple analogy. If one God can manifest Himself as Yahweh in Jerusalem, as Abba Father in Rome and as Allah in Mecca then it is certainly possible for one God to manifest Himself as Father, Son and Holy Spirit any place, any time.
@@paeng46I guess you meant to ask if there are verses that support the doctrine of Trinity . After one realizes it is mathematically and theologically plausible for one infinite divine power to manifest Himself in 3 infinite divine forms the obvious next question is whether or not there is reference to it in the Scripture. Here are a few. that support the doctrine of Trinity: Isiah 48:16, 1 John 5:7, Mat 28:19, Lk 3: 21-22, Acts 2:33-34.and 2Cor 13:14. A Bible scholar might be able to give you many more. I am just a layman.
@@thetruthuntold9642 : If Yahweh, Abba Father and Allah are not the same God as you say, then they are many Gods. Your thinking is that of a pagan polytheist. Islamic preachers like Shabir Ally, Mufti Menk, Omar Suleiman, Reza Aslam, etc. say they are one and the same God, the God of Abraham.
Better yet: A rope is composed of three strands. If one unravels it a little, one will see the three strands that remain a single rope composed of three strands. The three strands are similar, but not the same, they are individual strands forming a rope. They are one in nature, character and objective.
Johnny Truth: There is vast difference between a dog and man. A dog is not equipped to fully understand his master.. There is also a vast difference between human man and a divine spirit. Man with finite brain is not equipped to fully understand an infinite divine spirit. So we humans can only know WHAT God has done or revealed but not WHY he has done. The Scripture too says, " Unsearchable are the ways of the Lord" ( Rom 11:33). So we may never know WHY God had to send His son and the Holy Spirit. Having said that we may hazard a guess sometimes based on what has been revealed in the Scripture. I need to explain to you Jewish history. I will be brief. Around 4000 BC during Abraham's time human sacrifice was common practice. God tested Abraham by asking him to sacrifice his son Isaac but when He was convinced of his faith he asked him to offer a ram. There after the descendants of Abraham took a cue from it and would only offer animal sacrifice, Around 1500 BC the Jews returned from Egypt and spent about 40 years in the wilderness around Mount Sinai. Moses gave them many laws to live by and many religious rituals including animal sacrifices,. One of the sacrifices was " sin offering" in the form of a burnt offering of a ram to ATONE FOR SIN. This animal sacrifice also weaned Jews away from other tribes such as Amorites, Hivites, Perizzites, etc. who were still practicing human sacrifice. The Book of Leviticus has dozens of verse wherein Yahweh suggests He loves the aroma of burnt offering .In Book of Numbers Ch 28, Vs 2 He even reminds the Jews to offer their sacrifices on time. By 1000 BC the Jews had conquered Canaan and had driven out all the hostile tribes, There was no more human sacrifice. But the Jews were offering animal sacrifice which had outlived its utility. Around 700 BC God tells through prophet Isiah ( 1:11 ) and prophet Hosea ( 6:6)that He desires no more animal sacrifice. But Jews still continued with the practice rendering the holy temple into a virtual slaughter house. So God sent Son, who became man, called Himself Lamb of God and offered His death on the cross as the culminating sacrifice to atone for sins. He sent Holy Spirit after Jesus' ascension to be with His apostles . As to why Abraham, Noah and Moses didn't mention Trinity. God's revelation did not come in one large package but in small packs to serve a certain given time. With Abraham , Noah and Moses, God was more concerned with His covenant of giving a promised land to the children of Israel. By 1000 BC the children of Israel had established themselves in the promised land. Around 700 BC God through Isai ah 48 :16 revealed the first glimpse of Trinity: "And now the Lord God and His Spirit have sent Me ( the Messiah)."
@@johnpereira9755 sir you've just tell me here 1000 and one Arabian Nights style story and I'm afraid you've explain nothing about my question I sensed you have no answer for that question of mine let me ask you easier one Sir, Jesus Christ is son of God and he's the second person of the trinity alright and he is God and he's the God in flesh ok. So can you please tell me when is Jesus become a God? Thanks
The trinity makes so much sense because: Whenever God wants to do something with his almighty he first wills it, then he does it. That’s how God always works, first willing something and then doing it. For example: How does God make it that he is eternal. He does the following. First God wills to be eternal and then he uses the power to realize this will. so the commandment that God gave himself to be eternal has always existed, he never created it, it has always been there. He can’t just create the commandment to be eternal. Also, the power of God which implements this commandment that he is eternal has always existed, he never created it. He can’t just create the power that makes him eternal So these things have always existed: God, the word of God (Jesus) and the power of God that implements the word of God (Holy Spirit) Only God is eternal because to be eternal you have to be omnipotent , that is why the word of God and the power of God that implements his word (Holy Spirit) are God. That’s why the the Bible makes soooo much sense when it says In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. It makes soooo much sense why there HAS TO BE three persons that are one God, and not only one person. If there is an omnipotent being it has to be always triunion otherwise it can’t exist
@@TMNmedia I also said there is only one omnipotent God. But unlike you, I have a brain and understand that for God to be eternal, his wish to be eternal and his power to realize this wish are also eternal, thus they are also God, since only God the Creator is eternal, nothing else It’s still one and the same God because 2 of 3 always belong to the third because the third is God Simple That’s why each of the three can say I can do whatever I want with MY other two The Bible describes perfectly what an omnipotent God must be like because it is written by it lol
@@Key-ps2iy whatever mumbo jimbo u said its not what anyone called simple mate. Give me verses in the bible about trinity the concept in ur bibles ? Should we worship the three equally ?
@@TMNmedia It’s simple. But you are just stupid. That’s a difference. You act like some student who keeps getting bad grades and has absolutely no idea what the student is saying who always gets the best grades Let’s do it again God can do whatever he wants to do. That’s the definition of God That means he wants stuff and then realizes that stuff-> that’s omnipotence-> to bring your every wish into existence Simple So God can do whatever he wants to do. He wants to be eternal and thus he is eternal. To be eternal though this wish to be eternal and this power realizing it have to be eternal too, he can’t create both, both have to exist always so that God is eternal Simple In this world only the creator is eternal, the whole creation has a beginning and isn’t eternal That’s why the entirety of God’s wishes (Jesus) and the power realizing these wishes (Holy Spirit) are God too Simple Each of the three is only one God because the other two belong to him That means each of the three is the same God with the same wish and the same power that does what he wants That’s why each of the three is the same and only 1 God Simple That’s why the Bible says this: „In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.“ John 1:1 KJV It says God and his word/ wish is eternal and that’s why the word/wish (which is Jesus by the way) is also God because only God is eternal. It makes perfect sense So don’t act like a stupid animal and think for one second why ONE omnipotent God has to have three persons and can’t have one
The reason why people can’t comprehend it is because they haven’t been born again of the spirit . Repent from your sins, Ask god to renew you mind and hearth and guide you in the right way . Will be life changing ✝️
The reason why people can't comprehend it is because its a doctrine of devils. It is not Biblical. Show me the word "Trinity" anywhere in the Bible. It's not there. This doctrine was created centuries after Jesus.
@@arthurh4484 the word trinity isn’t in the bible but the meaning of it it is . The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.” - 2 Corinthians 13:14
@@arthurh4484 From the beginning of creation in Genesis to the end of times in Revelation, God refers to Himself as "us" or "our" and thus describes the doctrine of the Trinity. The word trinity comes from "tri" meaning three and "unity" meaning one. God is three distinct individuals - God the Father, the Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit - in one true God. These Bible verses and Scriptures about the trinity will help you have a better understanding of who God is. It can be a difficult concept to grasp, yet we can believe God's word and know that while His ways are higher than ours, we can trust in Him!
@@DigitalStore33 "Us" means more than one. When he said "US", he was referring to the 3 of them. I don't have much patience for Jesuits. You guys are trolling everywhere lately. Get thee hence!
Muslim: who is God? Christian (Trinitarian): Jesus Muslim: is Jesus son of mary ? Christian: Yes Muslim: who created mary Christian: God Muslim: who is God? Christian: Jesus Muslim: Jesus is the begotten son Christian: Yes Muslim: who is his father? Christian: God Muslim: who is God? Christian: Jesus Muslim: Is Jesus is servant of God Christian: Yes Muslim: Jesus died on the cross Christian: Yes Muslim: who resurrected him ? Christian: God Muslim: is Jesus a messenger ? Christian: Yes Muslim: who sent him? Christian: God Muslim: who is God? Christian: Jesus Muslim: did Jesus worship while on earth? Christian: Yes Muslim: whom did he worship? Christian: God Muslim: who is God? Christian: Jesus Muslim: did God have beginning ? Christian: no Muslim: than who was born 25/Dec? Christian: Jesus Muslim: is Jesus God? Christian: Yes Muslim: where's God? Christian: In heaven Muslim: how many Gods are than in heaven? Christian: only one God Muslim: where's Jesus? Christian: He is seated on right hand of his father. Muslim: then how many are they in heaven? Christian: only one God Muslim: then how many seats ? Christian: one Muslim: where's Jesus? Christian: seated next to God Muslim: how are they seated on one chair? Christian:- Actually trinity is a big HOAX
Khadim Mir Your talk cannot be Muslim/Christian, but it looks like the talk Muslim/Trinitarian, as Christians believe Jesus, who in Bible says, that Father is the only true God. John 17: 3. So you were lied to. Trinitarianism is not a Christian idea. You maybe find similar topics in Islam, which you would mark as non-Muslim. It;s sad that some people confuse others about what is Christianity as it's totally simple... the Father is the God, Jesus is the Son of God, the Savior.
@@pozorovatellidi This is exactly what I am trying to say, majority of the so called Christians are Trinitarians, I don't reject true Christianity, I only reject these kind of polytheistic beliefs. In spite of being a muslim, I humbly reject a lot of wrong practices by Muslims too but that doesn't mean I am putting all in the same basket. Please don't be offended.
@@KHM95 Hi. I don't see any reason to be offended. As for a similar basket in Islam... I think I would put there preaching that Bible should be followed and at the same time preaching anti-biblical stuff as that Jesus is not Son of God, He wasn't risen from dead... what looks illogical similar way as this doctrine. Now you don't be offended :-)
@@pozorovatellidi I love whoever you are, because you are so humble in your approach. Look, we have developed a culture in the muslim world, we don't reject any religion but the interpretations, we reject our own great scholars if proved otherwise, blind following of a person lets you to suppress your own intellect, and that's a very bad thing. Again with sincerity I don't want to preach anyone anti-biblical teachings, but I may interpret it differently. Who said we preach people that Jesus is not the son of God, but that's not the case, we actually say Jesus is not the biological or literal son of God bur rather it's metaphorical, and some of the christians also have the same belief. I found you a very interesting person to talk to, it would be my pleasure if you email me khadymmyrr@gmail.com .
@@KHM95 Yes, as you said you believe in this stuff. I follow David Woods videos occasionally so I know a little bit about Islam. He is a trinitarian, so I don't accept blindly everything he says. But in general I think he has it pretty covered by Muslim sources. By the way thank you for your offer. I feel a little bit bad to decline it now as I'm a little bit busy... a job, studies, renting... and changes in all of these... so this "lot of fun" prevents me to spend extra time contacting new people now and it would be rude not to answer for longer time. Maybe I'd use it later if the offer is still available.
It would make sense to try and explain what the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit actually are; and how they differ and relate to each other logically as personas. I understand what the Son it but I’m not clear how the Holy Spirit differs from the father unless it is simply an attribute of the father at work in the world. Also, how does one explain the moment in the bible when Jesus cries out “father, why hast thou forsaken me”. What is actually happening hear psychologically in terms of Jesus thought process? Was he unaware that he was the Father?
How you explain when Jesus (peace upon on him) said in your bible, that my father is greater/better (I really don't remember the exact word, but it's similar)than me, how can a person can be better than himself??!!
Jesus said "The father is greater than I" and its because Jesus was limited by the human body so he wasnt as great as the father who is in heaven and who had no limits at that time. Core-wise they're both coequal,neither is greater than the other
@@theburninglegion5189 With all respect brother, my mother language is not English, so in your reply you said "they're", I think this used only for 2 or more persons. Also, when you find someone talking about himself be using I, then using He, I am very sure he is talking about someone else, not himself, SO Please don't put your words in Jesus's mouth, He was clear always when he is talking about God "his father", he always make space between himself and his father. I think this video is very good way to explain what I am trying to say, I hope you will find the path to the truth (th-cam.com/video/x3rvJJma3Sk/w-d-xo.html)
@@kingnour7428 can you reword that please:) because I did not understand anything after "Also". And yes The Father and The Son(Jesus) are two different persons of the same God. The verse "For The Father is greater than I" is from the bible... I'm not making up stuff.
@@theburninglegion5189 Brother, again, my english language is poor, that why I put the link at the end, because I was not sure my thoughts will be clear. Anyway, in your reply, I find myself confusing when you said: "For The Father is greater than I" is from the bible.." HOW can GOD be greater than him self, HOW can GOD be three persons in the same time??? Please check the: (th-cam.com/video/x3rvJJma3Sk/w-d-xo.html).
@@kingnour7428 NOUR NOUR it's okay friend. The link you sent me is extremely misleading confusing and wrong . Almost everything he said is wrong. God is not a person, God is a title given to an entity of a specific divine nature (an essence) we have 3 persons that have this essence: The Father, The Son(Jesus) and The Holy Spirit. All 3 persons are equal , they have the same properties and qualities but different roles. Jesus is not the actual child of The Father ( he gave birth to him) By son of God we mean that Jesus is from The father (God) and not from the earth like us humans. God ( all 3 persons) love humans and wanted to save us from sin so The Son came down to earth ( Jesus) and died for our salvation. Jesus said " The father is greater than I" because at that time Jesus was on earth , he had a human body which limited his abilities as God, but the Father had no human body at that time so there were no limits to his power. The father , the son and the holy spirit are all the same God all 3 have the same abilities power and all are fully God ( The same God) think of it as 3 in 1. Copy this paragraph into Google translate and convert it to your mother language. Please do not listen to that person in the video because almost everything he said is wrong. I'm always here brother if you have any questions. God bless you.
TRINITY EXPLAINED:- JESUS CHRIST IS TRUE GOD ✝️❤️ Contradiction is "A" and Not "A" at same time. Eg: "Three beings in one being!" Or "Three persons in one person!" is Contradiction. But, Christians (Catholic) beleive that "Three persons in one being (One God)!". It's not Contradiction 💯👍 So that, 1 God = 3 Persons & 3 Persons are God ✝️ In this world, 1 being = 1 Person. But in the case of God, 1 being = 3 persons🔥🔥🔥 On the human level one person is one being, and any two persons are two beings. But, God is another dimension. DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF GOD & HIS TRUTHS. AMEN 🙏 🌹"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "Before Abraham was born, I AM" - JOHN 8:58 🌹In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth - GENESIS 1:1 🌹In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God - JOHN 1:1 🌹The word became a flesh & lived here with us - JOHN 1:14 I BELIEVE IN ONE GOD & HOLY TRINITY ✝️
King Baby the reason I asked the question is to make clear the Trinity. The Bible says a few times Jesus was praying to the Father. Jesus called himself " I AM" which means he's God. So That’s why I asked the question.
Nobody understands it and the way you know nobody understands it is because if you ask 100 trinitarians to explain it you'll get 100 different answers. It's of the father of confusion, clearly.
TRINITY EXPLAINED:- JESUS CHRIST IS TRUE GOD ✝️❤️ Contradiction is "A" and Not "A" at same time. Eg: "Three beings in one being!" Or "Three persons in one person!" is Contradiction. But, Christians (Catholic) beleive that "Three persons in one being (One God)!". It's not Contradiction 💯👍 So that, 1 God = 3 Persons & 3 Persons are God ✝️ In this world, 1 being = 1 Person. But in the case of God, 1 being = 3 persons🔥🔥🔥 On the human level one person is one being, and any two persons are two beings. But, God is another dimension. DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF GOD & HIS TRUTHS. AMEN 🙏 🌹"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "Before Abraham was born, I AM" - JOHN 8:58 🌹In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth - GENESIS 1:1 🌹In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God - JOHN 1:1 🌹The word became a flesh & lived here with us - JOHN 1:14 I BELIEVE IN ONE GOD & HOLY TRINITY ✝️.
God isn't weak, dependent or ignorant as Jesus was, also God doesn't need to pray to God and beg him for help like Jesus did. Don't worship a brown middle-eastern man that never asked to be worshipped or EVER said "I am God"
Why will one entity act as 3 "persons" to prove his existence? God should be someone who sends messengers to the world to deliver the message to us. It is someone whose information will be in the scriptures as quotes that are never changed. It is someone who will not come to the world to teach us since he is the most powerful and will only meet us after we go to heaven. We explored Christianity and Trinity now let's research and see if any other religion can address the concerns mentioned above. God has gifted us with brains that are unique to human beings so let's research other monotheistic religions by reading its authentic scriptures. How about researching "Islam" first by reading their only scripture "Quran"? Since it is just one book and never modified, it will be easier to finish it.
I pride myself as understanding the English language well. The bible has some parts very convincing. I believe Jesus Christ was sent to the location and he's mentioned as saying he was sent to the people of Israel. Nevertheless, I believe Jesus Christ. I must worship the Father(God). That's what Jesus preached.
John 20: 27Then Jesus said to Thomas, “Put your finger here and look at My hands. Reach out your hand and put it into My side. Stop doubting and believe.” 28Thomas replied, “My Lord and my God!” 29Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
John 1 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. 14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
@@joshua2400 The Almighty God is immortal! Right? When someone is immortal, they cannot die! Do you believe that Jesus died? Did Jesus need to be resurrected in order to live again? Who resurrected Jesus? Almighty God did, Acts 2:24! Imagine what Satan and the demons would have done if the Almighty God was dead for three days and three nights?! Jesus is the Son of Almighty God, not the Almighty God! Jesus call the Almighty his Father and his God! Does the Almighty calls anyone His Father or His God? Jesus prayed to His God, does the Almighty pray to anyone? Of course not! The Trinity doctrine is a pagan doctrine!
@@carolmueller3191 uhm my friend, Jesus physically died, not spiritually, Jesus came to earth to die a physical death, not to stop existing you should read what scripture has to say about Jesus, as Isaiah calls Jesus God in Isaiah 9:6, John calls Jesus God in John: 1:1-3;1:14, Thomas calls Jesus God in John 20:28-29, and the reason the pharisees wanted Jesus dead was because He called Himself God
Conflating ILLOGICAL with PARADOX is the greatest sleight of doctrine that was ever carried out. A PARADOX is a statement or proposition which, despite sound, logical reasoning from acceptable premises, leads to a conclusion that seems logically unacceptable . An ILLOGICAL statement or argument is one where we do not observe the principles of logic and arrive at a senseless conclusion. The Trinity is ILLOGICAL not a PARADOX.
David Rodrigues: The Trinity has to be understood from 3 different angles. First the theological plausibility. If God can manifest Himself as Yahweh to Jews , as Abba Father to Christians and as Allah to Muslims then it is plausible for God to manifest Himself as Father , Son and Holy Spirit . Second the Mathematical plausibility. Any student of Calculus will tell you one infinite quantity can be resolved into 3 infinities. That is, infinity = infinity + infinity + infinity. So it is plausible for one infinite divine power to manifest Himself as 3 infinite divine powers- Father the Creator , Son the Redeemer and Holy Spirit the Sanctifier. Third, the Scriptural basis. Verses such as Isiah 48:16, 1 John 5:7, Mat 28:19 , Luke 3: 21-22, Acts 2:33-34 . 2 Cor 13:14, etc. allude to Father, Son and Holy Spirit, albeit not explicitly in all. In Mat 16:18 Jesus authorized Peter and through him the Church to bind or loosen whatever it deemed fit. The Church has accepted the divine reality of Trinity as a doctrine in 325 AD at the Council of Nicea after deliberating on it for nearly 3 centuries. The gates of Hades and agents of Satan will not prevail against the Church no matter how vile their profanities .
In the name of Jesus i gave this message here is wisdom: The Holy Trinity explained: God the Father = Love, Son = Wisdom, The Holy Ghost = Power all are atributes of only one person Jesus Christ and that is why God is only one, humans are created as a trinity as well of body, soul and spirit.
People use analogies to show something because the bible has let them down. Why won't people believe what the bible plainly states? Jesus is God's son. All God's intelligent creations are termed his sons.
@@tongakhan230 : Christians are not foolish to interpret the Bible literally. For example Jesus said if some one slaps you on one cheek show him the other. But Jesus Himself did not show the other cheek when a soldier slapped Him at the court of the High Priest. So keep your phony advice to yourself. We have well qualified theologians and Bible scholars to interpret the Gospels in the authentic way.
I explain the trinity in my video Father, Son, Holy Spirit explained by a revelation from God at The Lord's Day Ministry channel. I only use Scripture and an analogy from the Lord to explain it.
@Mansoor Ahmad I am not a trinitarian. But I would rather be a trinitarian than a follower of Islam. Islam is debauchery, and filled with evil. They blaspheme our God and Lord with their teachings. Jesus warned of false prophets like Muhammad.
islam is a filthy religion that constantly gets debunked by people like Acts 17 Apologetics. Constantly debunked. muhammad said the sun sets in a muddy spring and the earth sit on a whales back and the stars are missiles. he slept with a 9 year old.
see u’re a liar. u guys use the same desperate argument, when it’s 3 Person, 1 GOD. ur god allah is satan or some moon god muhammad found in mecca that’s why u have the symbol of baal.
There is no trinity. Jesus said "only the father is good" making a clear distinction between him and God. Jesus died. You can't be dead and resurrect yourself. Jesus prayed to God, telling God "let your will be done" This truth is undeniable
Bob Wellington: The Christian belief is that one God manifests or exists as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Son became man , was called Jesus and as man He said only Father is good, as man He prayed to the Father and as man He died on the cross. There are enough verses in the OT and NT alluding to Trinity. If there is no Trinity then there is no God. And if there is God then there is Trinity.
@@johnpereira9755 Jesus was dead for three days then resurrected. You can't resurrect yourself. God cannot die. Jesus was asked by james and John's mother if they could sit at his right and left in heaven. Jesus said he did not have the authority to make that decision. If he were God he would've had the authority. He also prayed to God and said 'let your will take place" If he were God he wouldn't have said that. The Bible clearly shows that Jesus had a separate will, had lesser authority than God, was dead for 3 days and was resurrected. Clearly indicating that he is not God and that there is no trinity.
@@johnpereira9755 “God is only one.”-Galatians 3:20. "To us there is but one God, the father" 1 Corinthians 8:6 “Father, if you want to, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, let, not my will, but yours take place.” Luke 22:42 “You, whose name is Yaweh, you alone are the Most High over all the earth.”-Psalm 83:18. “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.”-John 17:3.
@@bobwellington7580 Don't you understand what I said.? I said Jesus died as man. Why do you keep repeating God does not die? Where and when did anybody say God dies? I agree God is one. He exists or manifests Himself as Father, Son and Holy Spirit just as you can exist as father to your kids, son to your parents and husband to your wife. That doesn't make you 3 different men. The misunderstanding about Trinity is probably due to Churchmen trying to explain it using the term " person". Here are a few verses that allude to Father the Creator, Son the Redeemer and Holy Spirit the Sanctifier: Isiah 42:1, Isiah 48:17-18, 1 John 5:7, Math 28:19, Luke 3:21-22, Acts 2:33-34 and 2 Cor 13:14. None of these verses refer to Father or Son or Holy Spirit as " person".
@@bobwellington7580 Jesus did resurrect himself. Read John 10:18/ No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
Amazing... In 2019 we are still confused and thinking for trinity to make sense. We are still thinking that why Jesus was only the king of Jews. We are still thinking that was Jesus a God or son of Godod, equal to or more important than god. We are still thinking whether infant Jesus was taken to Egypt or not? We are still thinking that who among the 04 conanical Gospels are correct about geniology of Jesus? We are still thinking about pornography in Bible whether it is from God or someone else amended it? Do we need to believe in what Paul said/assumed? ELOH ELOH LAMA SABACHTANI
Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one the true God (the Father) sent! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!
Mitchell C Jesus does claim to be God. Read John 8:58 and Exodus 3:13-14. Jesus uses the same words that God (who is Jesus) used earlier in Exodus. Read John 10:30 where Jesus says “I and the Father are one” Jesus claims and shows that He is God many more times It is because of the very fact that Jesus made himself equal to God by claiming to be His son that the Israel leaders crucified Him. Read John 5:18. You also say that Jesus isn’t God because God can’t die. Well, Jesus didn’t die spiritually. And let’s not forget the fact that He resurrected. I understand that this is a very difficult topic to understand. I pray that God bless you with knowledge about Him so that you may know what true God you are worshipping. . Really try to be open to anything God wants to communicate to you. God bless
@@LolXd-rf8qr "why call me good? There is none good except the one true God" Stupid Jesus is a man born of a woman, he was breast fed, cleaned when urinated and circumcized on 8th day. Funny god with a circumcized penis??
Lol Xd John 8:58 No Jesus does not use the same words from Ex 3 Jesus says “ego eimi” Which means roughly “I am the man” “I am he” The blind man who Jesus heals, some people aren’t sure it’s the guy that was blind but the blind man says “ego eimi”-I am the man!! Did the blind man claim to be God??????? John 9 9 Some said, “It is he”; others said, “No, but he is like him.” He said, “I am the man.” “I am the man” = ego eimi Did the blind man just claim to be God??? I believe in the Old Testament Greek it goes like this in Ex 3 I AM THAT I AM= ego eimi HO ON Tell the I AM has sent you= tell them HO ON has sent you Had Jesus said ‘before Abraham was born, HO ON’ that might be an argument but he didn’t John 10 I and the Father are one Jesus is not claim he is the Father Trinitarians don’t claim that Jesus IS the Father Jesus is one with the Father in purpose, working in concert, of the same mind/accord Jesus prays for believers to be one with him and the Father, does that mean believers are God too??? If they are one with God and Jesus??? NO John 17 21 that they may all be one; even as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 The glory which thou hast given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one, Jesus died, God cannot die 1 Tim says God has immortality which in Greek is “deathlessness” God cannot experience death, it doesn’t matter how you define death God can’t do it It seems weird that you say Jesus didn’t really die basically? If Jesus didn’t die, who died for the sins of man? A “human nature” died for sins? No Jesus died Romans says the Son of God died Jesus in Revelation says ‘I was dead’
Where does the 3 in 1 was from? The bible didn't pay serious focus on that. Why does church claims it to be true? Sometimes I even hear people confuse in their prayer when calling out both to Jesus and God. However, Jesus himself teach us how to pray, which was not praying to him, but only in his name.
Jesus never did claim he was God , but the Pharisees and Scribes were the ones that made this nefarious accusation in hopes of charging him with blasphemy. Although Jesus did acknowledge in the same paragraph that He was the Christ ( Anointed and/or given a position by God). Your correct that Almighty God cannot have a God.
@@geobla6600 i agree with you that jesus was the messiah , my point was that there are passages in the bible where jesus said he isnt God , i dont know why people still believe in him as a God
@@assameayoub6857 Jesus did make literally 100's of statements that infer that he wasn't God. When a person (In this case Jesus) calls God His God and that he was sent by Him (Jesus God), this shows that he was in subjection to Almighty God. In fact Jesus always referred to God as as his Father and God and himself as his son and never as an equal . So by clearly stating who and what you are as well your position in regards to someone ( God) , then you can accurately attain who and what your not without saying it. The term God is used to describe false gods , angels , prophets , kings and rulers , Satan and Jesus , but not in the sense of Almighty God.
I won’t raise my voice here as one who has absolute understanding about this issue. However, from my understanding, an attempt to define God as having 3 parts or Persons is nonsensical for one very basic reason. The scriptures NEVER says God is three persons. Instead it DOES SAY that the Spirit IS God. 2 Cor 3:16 & John 4:24 “GOD IS SPIRIT, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth. “ Not, “God is God and the Spirit.” The end. Any further discussion or argument to support a “triune” God only imparts abstract, theoretical assumption and speculation that may possibly be nothing more than heresy.
Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one the true God (the Father) sent! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!
Yes, "God as having 3 parts or Persons is nonsensical ", that was simply INVENTED IN NICEA, is nonsensical and NOT SUPPORTED BY THE GOSPELS. However, the Son is God, the Father is God and the Spirit is God as easily explained in my video here th-cam.com/video/D1ZLuDfdbnE/w-d-xo.html
No one can explain the Trinity Doctrine, because it makes no sense! Three persons make up one god? It's LUNACY! The Bible doesn't teach the Trinity ANYWHERE! The Trinity Doctrine is Heresy! Read Matthew 28:19. Jesus said, 'IN THE NAME OF', not in the Titles of! Think about it, folks, then read it, then get baptized the way Jesus commanded you to be! In the name of Jesus Christ (Acts 2:38) for the remission of sins!
The trinity teaching is heresy beware of wolves in sheeps clothing there is one father one son the holy spirit is there power not another person read your king james bible not the new versions
@Raj Singhwhat about this? For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. 1 John 5:7-8 KJV
God concept in islam is very easy and simple God is one . He has no partners . No son . Jesus is one of his messengers . He created him miraculously without father .
God concept in islam is very easy and simple God is one . He has no partners . No son . Jesus is one of his messengers . He created him miraculously without father .
I think The Holy Spirit is the most confusing aspect of the trinity. Because what is the Father? He became flesh in Christ, but what is the Father if not spirit?
Father is the creator and the leader, The Son (Jesus) is the saviour, and the Holy Spirit is the giver of life. The also the "constructor" the Father commanded, and the Son created the World, and evrything in it. Because He [The Son] is the verb (John 1:1-5).
It is confusing and, actually, of our enemy & God's. To say that one of the three people of god is the savior is to say that there are two people of god who are NOT the Savior. That is Satan's very subtle & clever way of saying that God is not your savior. It's a dilution of truth rather than a denial of it but, when you think about it, look at how he did it in the garden, he didn't just come out & say God is a liar, he did it through subtlety and breaking their confidence encouraging them to trust in themselves just as religion encourages us to trust in doctrines of men - RATHER than the Simplicity that is in Christ alone. That being, that we have one God & Saviour & Father who is above all & through all & in us all. If that is not one person, then we have a deeply schizophrenic creator.
the 3 entities in God or the 3 persons in God are they dependent on each other or independent of each other ? if they are dependent on each other that means non of them can be God because God is not dependent on anyone or anything, if they are independent of each other that means we end up with 3 gods that means we have 3 different entities independently working of each other and all of them are fully 100% God so you end up with Polytheism or Atheism you cannot end up with Christianity.
God the father (of everything) born (himself) as the savior jesus to teach men the way to salvation and to die as the last atonement for sin (past present future) to have the father resurrect him so that he may send (himself god) as the holy spirit to all people that believe in jesus aka god the father in the flesh. So god the father is the manifestation of all of god 100% and jesus is all of god as well but as a mortal man 100% and the holy spirit is god divided up to all that believe in him
@@brandengillette7794 this theory makes no logical sense🤦why the creator of all need to become human to know how they live?jesus is 100% god and 100% human? either he is god immortal or human and mortal. i never understand this logic behind trinity.
@@MegaHj12 God needed to show man the way back to him. Because we are sinners. We do what is best in our own earthly eyes. And not what is good in Gods eyes. God is a spirit He lives outside of our dimension and reality. And so he became a worm mortal like us to show us that he can be good as he wants us to be and so can you. God dose have the power to be on earth as a spirit and intervene in the lives of man. That was the god of the Old testament. Thundering voice that came in the midst of clouds. That hath no man see the face of God yet live. Because of his shining emitting power would vaporize us to dust. And even God as jesus was to powerful as a mortal man because of the miracles he preformed and so he sent the holy spirit (a form of god divided up and given for all who believe in him and are Born again In the Spirit. Jesus said to his disciples when they ask if him of heavenly things. If you do not believe me of earthly things, how will you believe me of heavenly things?
@@brandengillette7794 this is all a spiritual explination. not a logical. because so i can belief also in greek mythology. olymp is the heaven, tautarus is the hell, zeus is godfather and his daughters and son are gods but have not the same authority but they go down to earth sometimes.
Nicely done! Odd to me how we can fathom things like the "force" on Star Wars or teleportation on "Star Trek", but find it so difficult to understand how God can be one in three personages. I personally don't find it that difficult. As long as I don't place limitations upon God as if he were just a human like us. I guess you just have to be ok acknowledging there's someone wiser and greater than us humans.
Does Trinity an Excuse For Idolatry? • Trinitarian - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit • Babylonian - Nimrod, Simeramus, and Tammuz • Ancient Egypt - Osiris, Isis, and Horus • Ancient Meccans - Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat • Greek mythology - Zeus, Poseidon, and Adonis • Ancient Roman - Jupiter, Juno, and Minerva • Hinduism - Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva • Human sacrifice ( Jesus's crucifixion) is paganistic • You shall have no other gods before me ( God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit ) • You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything • You shall not bow down to them or worship them; 7 Pagans Festival • Christmas. ( Sol Invictus, the Unconquered Sun ) • New Year's Day. ( Roman god; Janus ) • Easter. ( goddess Eostre ) • The Roman version of Halloween. ( memory of the Dead ) • May 1st - Labor Day. ( goddess Maia ) • Epiphany or Three Kings Day. ( goddess Diana ) • Saint John's Eve. ( goddess Fortuna )
Well, for starters, no one can explain the workings of the force and teleportation in detail either, which is why it is science fiction. But would those limitations you refuse to put on God also include the possibility that they are Three separate individuals working in-tandem? Why is that completely out of the question or impossible?
God isn't weak, dependent or ignorant as Jesus was, also God doesn't need to pray to God and beg him for help like Jesus did. Don't worship a brown middle-eastern man that never asked to be worshipped or EVER said "I am God"
Explanation 1- In Isa. 43:10,11 the speaker is : LORD (yhwh). 2- In verse 10, he says "understand that (I am he)". 3- In verse 11, the LORD claims to be the only savior. 4- In John 8:24. below the speaker is Jesus and He also says (I am he). and if you don't believe that, you will die in your sin. 5- In Isa. 48:12 The speaker is the (I am he), and (I am the first, and I am the last). 6- In Isa. 48 16. The one who SENDS is Lord GOD yhwh/adonay. 7- In Isa. 48:17 The speaker which is SENT (LORD God) is yhwh/elohim who also claims to be the Redeemer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Isa. 43:10,11. 10 You are my witnesses,” declares the LORD, “and my servant whom I have chosen, that you may know and believe me and understand that (I am he). Before me no god was formed, nor shall there be any after me. 11 I, I am the (LORD), and besides me there is no (savior). John 8:24 24. I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that (I am he) you will die in your sins.” Isa. 48:12 “Listen to me, O Jacob, and Israel, whom I called! (I am he); I am the first, and I am the last. Isa. 48:16 Draw near to me, hear this: from the beginning I have not spoken in secret, from the time it came to be I have been there.” And now the Lord GOD has sent me, and his Spirit. Isa. 48:17 17a Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel: “I am the LORD your God, ...
If we are made in God's image it's logical to think of the Trinity in terms of our own self. Mind (God) Body (Jesus) Soul (Holy Spirit). I understand that much better than so many abstract answers out there and especially the ones that say we aren't able to interpret it at all and that it just is ...
TRINITY EXPLAINED:- JESUS CHRIST IS TRUE GOD ✝️❤️ Contradiction is "A" and Not "A" at same time. Eg: "Three beings in one being!" Or "Three persons in one person!" is Contradiction. But, Christians (Catholic) beleive that "Three persons in one being (One God)!". It's not Contradiction 💯👍 So that, 1 God = 3 Persons & 3 Persons are God ✝️ In this world, 1 being = 1 Person. But in the case of God, 1 being = 3 persons🔥🔥🔥 On the human level one person is one being, and any two persons are two beings. But, God is another dimension. DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF GOD & HIS TRUTHS. AMEN 🙏 🌹"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "Before Abraham was born, I AM" - JOHN 8:58 🌹In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth - GENESIS 1:1 🌹In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God - JOHN 1:1 🌹The word became a flesh & lived here with us - JOHN 1:14 I BELIEVE IN ONE GOD & HOLY TRINITY ✝️.
The most simple way I describe the triune nature of God is: The Father has always existed with the Son and the Holy Spirit, They! have always existed together, (Eternal! no beginning no end) They! (Plural), are the One! (Singular) God of Israel. They, (plural) are the One! (Singular) Self-existing Creator of all things. Without the Father, the Son or the Holy Spirit: (God would not be God). They! (Plural) are the One (singular) Eternal God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit; Are! The one and only true God! They! Together, Are! The God of Israel. We don't have to; Completely understand it. We only need to be able to apprehend it and that is enough! For we cannot even understand our own emotions from one week to the next many times, Much less, even at a minimum, to understand, the eternal nature of God, revealed and presented in the Bible. But, most certainly! Through Jesus, the Son (Of God) we can enter into a intimate relationship with each distinct person of the triune nature of God. And that is everything. I could describe this with fewer words or many more words, but the essence of what is shared is enough for anybody to be accountable to know who it is, and with what love, who wants to save them! Who wants to save them, from their sins, Who wants to save them from the wrath of God to come, Death, Hell, And! The lake of fire, That will come from God's ultimate! and inevitable, Righteous and Just! White Throne judgment, of all humanity on that day. Choose God and God's love through the Son, choose life on God's terms, not your terms. According to the Bible! God's terms are believing, receiving and following Jesus Receiving God's love for you, who came from Heaven off His throne, who suffered and died on a Roman cross for you when he didn't have to. Who raised his own body from the dead to prove that he is true and who the Bible declares Him to be. The Bible declares that if you believe these thing by faith, that your eyes will be opened and the truth will set you free. d - a Whitestone
My explanation to people is that God made us in his image. We have a mind , a body, and a spirit. So does God in the father, the son , and the Holy Spirit. Just as I am a father to my kid, a son to my dad, and I have my own soul.
Me: hey, where did Jesus sit when he went back to heaven? Trinitian: He sat next God Me: If you believe Jesus is God you believe Jesus sat next to himself. Trinitian:Yes Me: dahhhhhhhhhhh
Uh no. We are only commanded to teach 1 God, no where in scripture does it mention a triune god or tell us to teach about a triune god. Duet 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord: 5 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. 6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: 7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. 8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. 9 And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.
Brimstone this says he gas 1 person. heb 1 :3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
Brimstone I’ve read your comments one again Hebrews declares one person. And yes Jesus is God. But who exactly is Jesus? Jesus is the father robed in flesh. John 1:1 and 14. 1 tim3:16. Also god is a spirit. not spirits. 1 spirit so the Holy Spirit can’t be a different person nor is a spirit a person.
Brimstone here’s a prophecy about Jesus isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
I’m glad you asked. The Bible is clear Jesus was a man and had be tested like every other man, So as a man he got tempted, hungry, thirsty, felt pain, learned, grew, got tired, sad, cried, had a different will, had a lack of knowledge, bled, sweated, and since he was a man he prayed. As in flesh praying to spirit, and died. etc... As God he worked miracles, forgave sin, walked on water, healed the sick, Rose the dead and rose from the dead, knew all things, etc... there are scriptures to back all that up. So yes flesh prayed to the spirit because the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. I read the kjv. I don’t read any bible that sugar coats the word or waters it down.
As for Matt 28 : 19 you overlooked one key word (name) singular not names. So what is the name of the father? what is the name of the son? What is the name of the Holy Ghost? It’s one name for those. Acts 2 :38 declares the name Jesus as well as many other scriptures. Example Matt 28 :19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost
Harper Collins Bible Dictionary: Page 432 "Indeed, although the doctrine of the Trinity is a later development" Page 1178 "Trinity, the, a term denoting the specifically Christian doctrine that God is a unity of three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The word itself does not occur in the Bible. It is generally acknowledged that the church father Tertullian (ca. A.D. 145-220) either coined the term or was the first to use it with reference to God. The explicit doctrine was thus formulated in the post biblical period, although the early stages of its development can be seen in the NT. Attempts to trace the origins still earlier (to the OT literature) cannot be supported by historical-critical scholarship, and these attempts must be understood as retrospective interpretations of this earlier corpus of Scripture in the light of later theological developments." Page 1179 "The formal doctrine of the Trinity as it was defined by the great church councils of the fourth and fifth centuries is not to be found in the NT." New Catholic Encyclopedia vol XIV: Page 295 "When one does speak of an unqualified Trinitarianism, one has moved from the period of Christian origins to, say, the last quadrant of the 4th century. It was only then that what might be called the definitive Trinitarian dogma 'one God in three persons' became thoroughly assimilated into Christian life and thought." Page 295 "On the other hand, the formula itself does not reflect the immediate consciousness of the period of origins; it was the product of 3 centuries of doctrinal development." Questions: 1. Did Jesus Christ have two fathers? The Father is the Father of the Son (I John 1:3), yet the child born of Mary was conceived by the Holy Ghost (Matthew 1:18, 20; Luke 1:35) Which one is the true father? 2. How many Spirits are there? God the Father is a Spirit (John 4:24), the Lord Jesus is a Spirit (II Corinthians 3:17), and the Holy Spirit is a Spirit by definition. Yet there is one Spirit (I Corinthians 12:13; Ephesians 4:4). In Revelation 3:1 God has seven Spirits. 3. If Father and Son are co-equal persons, why did Jesus pray to the Father? (Matthew 11:25) Can God pray to God? 4. How come the Son doesn't know much about the Father? (Matthew 24:36; Mark 13:32). 5. What about verses indicating the inequality of the Son and the Father? (John 8:42; 14:28; I Corinthians 11:3) 6. If the Son is eternal and existed at creation, who was his mother at that time? We know the Son was made of a woman (Galatians 4:4) 7. Did 'God the Son' surrender His omnipresence while on earth? If so, how could he still be God? 8. If the Son is eternal and immutable (unchangeable), how can the reign of the Son have an ending? (I Corinthians 15:24-28). 9. Are there three Spirits in a Christian heart? Father, Jesus and the Spirit all dwell within a Christian (John 14;17, 23; Romans 8:9) 10 Is Jesus in the Godhead or is the Godhead in Jesus as stated in Colossians 2:9? 11. Who raised Jesus from the dead? Did the Father (Ephesians 1:20), or Jesus (John 2:19-21), or the Spirit? (Romans 8:11) If Son and Holy Ghost are co-equal persons in the Godhead, why is blasphemy of the Holy Ghost unforgivable but blasphemy of the Son is not? (Luke 12:10) If Jehovah is a Trinity, then doesn't that mean that Father, Son and Spirit all had to die to make the new covenant effective? (Hebrews 9:16-17) If the Spirit proceeds from the Father, is the Spirit also a son of the Father? If not, why not? If the Spirit proceeds from the Son, is the Spirit the grandson of the Father? If not, why not?
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Grant Knott No The Father is the only God Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one the true God (the Father) sent! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!
Love your scriptural explanation. One that I like to use to refute the LIE of the Trinity is, Has God got a God NO Has God got Brothers NO Has God got Son's or Children Yes,Has the Son got a God yes Has the Son Got Sons No Has the Son got Children No Has the Son got Brothers Yes,So how can they be the One God.
Unless you believe in the trinity then you’re not saved seems to be the fear tactic in order to sell it. Most folks will just go along with it even though it makes no sense for fear of not being saved, even though they don’t understand it. As with most of these videos on explaining the trinity,,,,,,,,,, no scripture given. Stems from Catholicism. Yeshua Jesus preached the coming kingdom and to repent back to His Fathers will and instruction on how we should live. Yeshua taught us how to walk that life. Deuteronomy 6, Matthew 22:33-38, 1John 2:3, John 14:15.
@antonelavazquez4886 Indeed the Father is the only true God. People left such clear description of God and chased after their own man-made Doctrine while claiming that God is complicated. My problems with Trinitarians is that they get so mad when I give questions as if I owe them.
@@mickraybam6012 I am one person. And in gen 1 v 27 there's no trinity there. Just bcoz u have your man made doctrine doesn't mean i will use the same to interpret the Bible.
The trinity is basically God in 1 being & 3 in persons. A being is what makes you what you're while a person is what makes you whom you are. What makes you a being? You're a human being. What makes you a person? Your name (unique identity). We all share the same being but we're different persons. So each of us is 1 being with 1 person while God is 1 being with 3 persons but they co-exist eternally. Just look in the book of Genesis 1:1, 1:26 (creation) 3:22 (after man sinned), 11:7 (tower of Babel), it all refers to "US" who would it be if not for all the 3 persons Deuteronomy 6:4 tells us that God is one, the context of how 'one' was used here was to depict unity just as you can see in Genesis 2:24 where it speaks of the man shall leave his parents & cleave to his wife & they shall be 1 flesh (see also Jesus speaking in Mark 10:7-9 & Romans 12:5 all believers are 1 in Christ). Definitely this is clear to see 'one' had more than 1 meaning- unity & quantity in number. There's no contradiction to the trinity. Jesus Himself also told His disciples (Matthew 28:19) to go & baptise in the NAME of Father & the Son & of the Holy Spirit. It is good to understand the context of verses & do more research what was its original meaning. 1 John 5:7 sums it up well. Do read it😊 We even say it in the grace as final greetings after meeting to fellowship together. (2 Corinthians 13:14) God the Father- God above all (Ephesians 4:6) God the Son (Jesus)- God with us (Matthew 1:23) God the Spirit (Holy Spirit)- God in us (John 14:26) Hope that helps someone better understand it. Everything is in the Bible. For further references look up in Matthew 28:19; John 15:26; 1 Corinthians 12:4-13; 2 Corinthians 13:14; Ephesians 2:18; 1 Thessalonians 1:2-5 & 1 Peter 1:2
The word Us means anything that is more than one. Us is 10, 20, 30, 40, 100. 200. How did this word Us, managed to be interpreted as 3 and why not another number ? Please support the number 3 with scripture or verse.
If you have repeated the actual saying, Go into all the world and baptise in the name of the father, son and holy spirit, then, you have not done it, until the name is called. If you are asked to do it in the name, then the NAME should be literally called and not repeat what He said. Baptising and calling the name is literally carrying the actual instruction, just as the Apostles did and not the titles. The name identifies but the title can be anyone. The name also carries authority. I am a father, I am a son, I am husband, I am a employee, I am a minister. I hold all these titles, but to identify me, I have to be called by my one given name. If you gave someone a cheque to put in their bank account and it had not got your name on it, then it is useless and invalid. If a parent gave their child a cheque to pay for their school tuition and their name was not on the cheque, then the school would ask, for the authoritve name that is meant to be on that cheque, that will allow the cheque to be cashed. Your name identifies you and carries authority. Call the name and not the title, for the power is in the NAME and not the title. Acts 2 vs 38: Repent and be baptise in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. Its this authoritive name Jesus Christ that removes the sin and not the title. When a child is born or a woman is married, they don't take on the title of the father or husband, but they take on his name. Colossians 3 vs 17 : And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Calling the name invokes the power and authority that is in the name.
@Raj Singh Just because we humans can't comprehend all about God, His ways, nature, doesn't mean it isn't true. God is infinitely greater than we are & that's the beauty & mystery of God. The Bible shows they're all 1 (unity). Get to understand the contexts of some words & verses & compare Scripture to Scripture. Let Scripture explain itself.
@@setapart3452 THAT'S WHY IT'S A TRINITY. THE TRINITY OF TRINITIES. IN THE BEGINNING (TIME) GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS (SPACE) AND THE EARTH (MATTER) FOR EVERYTHING TO EXIST NEEDS THREE DIMENSIONS. . GOD THE FATHER : THE IDENTITY (JUST LIKE YOU HAVE A NAME, BUT YOUR IDENTITY IS MORE THAN A NAME, IT IS THE CONSCIOUSNESS OF WHO YOU ARE, LIkE IF YOU DESCRIBED YOURSELF, IT WON'T JUST BE "MY NAME AND AGE" BuT INSTEAD YOUR VIRTUES AND FLAWS). GOD THE SON: IT SHOWS THAT WE LIVE INSIDE A BODY, WE CAN'T BE OUT OF OURSELVES, AND WE ALWAYS HAVE SOMEONE IN A HIGHER PLACE THAN US (MOM, DAD, UNCLE, ETC) JUST LIKE THE SON OBEYS THE FATHER, SO WE ARE TO BE SONS AND DAUGHTERS LIKE THE PRAYER "THY WILL BE ON EARTH AS IN HEAVEN" JESUS CREATED US, FOR WHEN GOD (THE MASTER MIND) THE FATHER WAS LEADING... THE SON WAS OBEYING. XTRA: When you're a human, the first thing you really get to say it's yours,are your blood related children. Jesus is his obedient son, the maker of all things. . God THE SPIRIT: OF COURSE, MAKING A REMOTE CONTROL CAR IS AMAZING, BUT WHAT WOULD THAT BE, WITHOUT A BATTERY? . WHEN EVERYTHING WAS CREATED, LOOKED BEAUTIFUL, BUT WITHOUT THE ESSENCE OF LIFE, NOTHING WOULD EVER WORK. THE HOLY SPIRIT IS THE VERY ESSENCE OF GOD, JUST LIKE THE BLOOD (OR SPIRIT) RELATED SON. WHEN GOD CREATED THE PLANTS, EVERYTHING LOOKED GOOD. NOW, WHEN GOD CREATED MAN, IT IS CLEARLY SAID THAT GOD BREATHED HIS BREATH OF LIFE INTO THE MAN'S NOSE (THE PART OF GOD WHICH WE ALSO HAVE FOR FREE) AND IS THERE, WHEN EVERYTHING STARTED. SE, THE TRINITY OF GOD, WHICH HE CAN LIVE IN A SEPARATE WAY, HE INTEGRATED IT INTO EACH ONE OF US. "LET US MAKE MAN TO 'OUR'(INTEGRATION) IMAGE AND LIKENESS (LOOKING LIKE, BUT NOT EQUALLY MADE (WITH SELF POWER))" WE HAVE AN IDENTITY (GOD FATHER) WE HAVE A BODY (FLESH) (GOD SON) WE HAVE A SPIRIT (BREATH OF LIFE) (GOD SPIRIT). . That is why, when we talk to one another, all we look into, are the EYES; is the identity (soul/inner and only self) WE ARE SOULS LIVING IN BODIES, AND THE SPIRIT SUSTAINS THE FLESH. I HOPE I HAD CLEARED IT JUST LIKE I FELL GOD HAS CLEARED IT FOR ME. BLESSINGS.
@Mansoor Ahmad John chapter 20 Verse 27-28 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Matthew chapter 3 verses 16-17 shows the Trinity 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. John 1 King James Version 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Genesis 1 King James Version 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
@Mansoor Ahmad TRINITY EXPLAINED:- JESUS CHRIST IS TRUE GOD ✝️❤️ Contradiction is "A" and Not "A" at same time. Eg: "Three beings in one being!" Or "Three persons in one person!" is Contradiction. But, Christians (Catholic) beleive that "Three persons in one being (One God)!". It's not Contradiction 💯👍 So that, 1 God = 3 Persons & 3 Persons are God ✝️ In this world, 1 being = 1 Person. But in the case of God, 1 being = 3 persons🔥🔥🔥 On the human level one person is one being, and any two persons are two beings. But, God is another dimension. DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF GOD & HIS TRUTHS. AMEN 🙏 SON (JESUS) WAS NOT CREATED. HE IS THE CREATOR. IN THE BEGINNING JESUS WAS WITH THE FATHER WITH HEAVENLY BODY AND FATHER CREATED ALL THINGS THROUGH SON (JESUS) ✝️❤️ 🌹"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "Before Abraham was born, I AM" - JOHN 8:58 🌹In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth - GENESIS 1:1 🌹In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God - JOHN 1:1 🌹The word became a flesh & lived here with us - JOHN 1:14 🌹"Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, - GENESIS 1:26 I BELIEVE IN ONE GOD & HOLY TRINITY ✝️
TRINITY EXPLAINED:- JESUS CHRIST IS TRUE GOD ✝️❤️ Contradiction is "A" and Not "A" at same time. Eg: "Three beings in one being!" Or "Three persons in one person!" is Contradiction. But, Christians (Catholic) beleive that "Three persons in one being (One God)!". It's not Contradiction 💯👍 So that, 1 God = 3 Persons & 3 Persons are God ✝️ In this world, 1 being = 1 Person. But in the case of God, 1 being = 3 persons🔥🔥🔥 On the human level one person is one being, and any two persons are two beings. But, God is another dimension. DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF GOD & HIS TRUTHS. AMEN 🙏 SON (JESUS) WAS NOT CREATED. HE IS THE CREATOR. IN THE BEGINNING JESUS WAS WITH THE FATHER WITH HEAVENLY BODY AND FATHER CREATED ALL THINGS THROUGH SON (JESUS) ✝️❤️ 🌹"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "Before Abraham was born, I AM" - JOHN 8:58 🌹In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth - GENESIS 1:1 🌹In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God - JOHN 1:1 🌹The word became a flesh & lived here with us - JOHN 1:14 🌹"Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, - GENESIS 1:26 I BELIEVE IN ONE GOD & HOLY TRINITY ✝️
@Mansoor Ahmad Doesn't the Bible say that Jesus was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God? Since Jesus is the Word that was God, then Jesus is what that was with God? Wasn't he God that was with God in the beginning?
accepting it is the main thing. we don’t have to totally understand it. when we receive our transfigured bodies, we’ll also then have access to all knowledge. thank you Jesus!
Jim Oaks everyone that believes in the trinity says this exact thing. “You can never understand it” but are very lazy to show any scripture because they have been thought of men and have not scrutinized the scriptures. You have to admit you don’t have proof of the trinity. The complexity of God coming into the flesh is not an easy thing to grasp but a true search of the harmony of the whole scriptures can reveal it.
You can start with the Gospels & who Jesus said He was, how he accepted worship, said he could forgive sins. If you look at the OT . All the I AM statements. All the times the Pharisees wanted to stone him because he made it seem to them that He was God. . There’s a lot there to … the Bible al fits together but Jesus is multifaceted , as per Philippians 2 he temporarily humbled himself of his full glory but was still God.
Thanks. I now finally understand the trinity. The trinity is like being married to God but also having two mistresses on the side as well. Worshipping the two mistresses is idolatry as well as adultery. So, if I worship the trinity, my soul is guaranteed to burn in hell for eternity before my spirit is finally extinguished forever. What a wonderful idea. Read Deuteronomy 13:6 for more clarification.
@@mudfoot3000 Unfortunately, neither Acts nor Book of Matthew is factual. Both are considered fiction. And Book of Acts & book of Matthew are both pro -idol worship.
what do you mean with god send the "son and the "holy spirit"? going by the understanding that they are all 3 god as one, you fall upon a problem. "sending" means that something is subject to change. god can't be subject to change, because if it was it would mean that before or after that change it was or would be imperfect. god is perfect, but at the same time imperfect?? can you explain that please?
Alex K It’s God’s existence in his realm as God that the Son is inseparably conjoined to the existence of this being. It is the eternal union of the Godhead that God cannot be in his existence as God apart from the other. Thus, the Son cannot exist apart from the Father, nor can the Father exist without the Son. And without our understanding of God's purpose and will in creation, there can be no objective moral purpose accomplished. Hence, the Spirit plays part upon that purpose. They are inseparable. The Godhead exists as a separate entities in one being. Even before the foundation of the world, God’s being is defined in plural form. Meaning that God was not alone in doing his work in the creation; hence the word “ELOHIM” was used to indicate the plurality of the pronoun. For example, God said in Genesis 1:26-“Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.” Here, God has a companion in the creation.
@@paeng46 god is the only absolute unity. he has no parts. ever heard of the idea of the "uncaused first cause" that's god according to aristotle, and christian theologians agree with him. it doesn't have parts, so an idea of plurality in god is impossible...
@@thequestioner999 Well, that's what the pronoun Elohim means my friend. It indicates the plural form of the word *_EL_* for God. And it is what the apostle John said in John 1:1-3-- "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made". Indeed God is one being but that being is consists of entities which the Bible calls as the *GODHEAD.* (acts 17:29; Romans 1:20 & Colossians 2:9).
@@paeng46 that's a polytheistic view you got there. God is absolute oneness. No godhead, no parts. I'll explain the concepts of uncaused first cause. Every cause has been caused by a previous cause, continue that cycle for a while and you arrive to the uncaused first cause which is cause. The uncaused first cause can't have plurality because if you say that god is composed out of multiple components you will always have one that has been there first to cause the other. So it's a sort of syntax error if you know what I mean
@@thequestioner999 *"Every cause has been caused by a previous cause, continue that cycle for a while and you arrive to the uncaused first cause which is cause. The uncaused first cause can't have plurality because if you say that god is composed out of multiple components you will always have one that has been there first to cause the other".* You said that. Well, read and understand carefully what John 1:1-3 said. It is clearly saying that both God and the Word is are existing together in eternity past. And John said that without the Word who is God, nothing in all of God's power has ever come into existence without him; which only means that he is co-existing with God in eternity past.
He is explaining that the Trinity cannot be explained. It can only be illustrated in the light of the scriptures, but no explanation can meet its definition. He is just giving you an analogy. Analogy is just a logical resemblance of the actual thing being explained. If you believe in God, then you must also believe in the Triune Godhead (Acts 17:29; Romans 1:20).
Having received His precious Holy Spirit and having been convicted of sin and repenting of certain things...I know He's very happy when I talk about His Son. I also feel the joy His Son has for dying for us and the concrete connection He has to His Father. He meant what He said when saying, " If you have seen me, you have seen the Father". Right this moment my heart cries, "Abba, Father!" We were made to worship Him, so turn from the sin His Holy Spirit shows you and trust Him! Yeshua means Salvation!
@@thelordsdayministry2026 The Lord never gave any scriptures wich explain it. Isn't it odd? Scriptures teach us that Jesus is the Christ (wich means man anointed by God to be his representative). God is Spirit and Jesus is the Son of man. It's all over the scriptures. And btw: Yahshua means Yah (God) is salvation. For God will save the world through the man he has appointed.
@@johndevisser903 What are you a Muslim? If you don't believe Jesus is God you are not a Christian. Christ means anointed one not "man anointed". There is Scripture all through the Bible that explains this. John 10:30,"I and my Father are one." You can watch my video and hear a lot of Scripture. I'm not going to write a book here.
About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out with a loud voice, “Elí, Elí, lemá sabachtháni?” that is, “My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?” Firstly, that verse right there, does it really sound like Jesus was willing to die on the cross ? He didn't want to die, If he was God then he should of known what was coming and endured the slow painful death on the cross so that everyone today would love him and feel sorry for him because he took on the sins of everyone. Jesus didn't want to die, yet you worship him as if he willingly died for you. You feel the joy Jesus had for dying for you ? okay.. **puzzled scratch head** Second, Jesus is saying my god my god, Hello alarm bells are ringing. ''MY GOD MY GOD.'' If Jesus was god incarnated, why the hell then is he calling on himself ? Christian logic, I swear i will never understand no matter how much I try. I just can't.
I agree with Fred Sanders when he says, “Connect the Trinity to the Gospel.” *John 1:18* is proof that God is triune, meaning “three-in-one.” Nobody has seen God the father, but we have seen God the Son and feel God the Holy Spirit. The words “only begotten” translate to “Monogenes” in Greek, meaning “one-of-a-kind” or “unique.” Only Jesus could make the invisible God visible and have His perfect, sinless nature. I hope this helps! 🙌🏽
Can we as mere humans Fully say that we understand the Trinity and its complexity? Why do we feel the need to sit on a presupposition that we are competent in understanding all there is to know about a being we have never met nor seen! The word trinity is never found in scripture, yet chrisitian scholars have chosen this word to describe one of the greatest and most powerful mysteries to mankind. Let him who has ears to listen, listen to what the spirit of the Lord is saying to the churches.
3 questions, what time period God became trinity? What is Father God son of God and Holy God names? Since the song says God in 3 persons who is the mother's of the Father, Son and Holy spirit?
Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus Muslim: is Jesus the son of Mary, Christian: Yes Muslim: Who created Mary? Christian: God, Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus Muslim:Jesus is the begotten son Christian: Yes Muslim: Who is his father? Christian: God. Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus. Muslim Jesus is a servant of God Christian: Yes Muslim: Jesus died on the cross? Christian: Yes Muslim: Is Jesus a messenger. Christian: Yes Muslim: Who sent him? Christian: God. Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus. Muslim: Did Jesus worship while on earth Christian: Yes Muslim: Whom did he worship? Christian: God. Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus. Muslim: Did God have a beginning Christian: No Muslim: Then who was born on 25/DEC? Christian: Jesus. Muslim: Is Jesus God. Christian: Yes Muslim: Where's God? Christian: In heaven, Muslim: How many Gods are there in heaven? Christian: Only one God. Muslim: Where's Jesus? Christian: He is seated on the right hand of his father. Muslim: Then how many are they in heaven? Christian: Only one God. Muslim: Then how many seats? Christian: one Muslim: where's Jesus? Christian: Seated next to God. Muslim: How are they seated on one chair? Christian: Its only understood by those with the Ghost. You need Ghost my friend.
Simple Jesus is the Father Son and Holy ghost wrapped in one . There is no Trinity. Because I know I not a Trinity. I'm a son, A Husband and a nephew those are characteristics of me and describes me as a being. One reason some churches think Trinity is real but it is not. There is one God his name is Jesus
JESUS CHRIST (is the name of) THE FATHER - John 5:43 THE SON - Matthew 1:21 THE HOLY SPIRIT - John 14:26 plus remember what John saw at the end of ages, he was the only man who saw Jesus Christ in all his glory he saw heaven and the new earth not even Paul knew and the other big holy men in the whole bible saw what John saw...he said BEHOLD I SAW ONE THRONE. He said ONLY ONE SAT AT THE THRONE. JESUS CHRIST IS THE SAME GOD OF THE OT. HE FINALLY REVEALED HIS REAL NAME . They use to call him LORD YAHWEH GOD AND MANY THINGS. NOW NOW IT'S JESUS CHRIST. READ ACTS 4:12 AND ACTS 2:38. May the Lord guide you all. Amen💓 Jesus said in the Gospel of John that unless a man is born again of water and spirit he cannot enter heaven.
Amen!!! John is a type of the bride and John saw the whole Book of Revrlation but did you notice who shows John this Book....its a prophet that John wanted to worship...Rev 22 vs 9....3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. Amos 3 vs 7.
@@Jr-oz8lf What do you think of the Restoration ministry that Jesus PROMISED would come through the prophet Elijah?..."Truly Elijah SHALL FIRST COME AND RESTORE ALL THINGS JESUS SAID.
@@eagleeyes6642 Jesus answers that through the Gospel brother when the people was telling him about that. John the Baptize or it was Jesus I can't remember exactly but the Lord Jesus answers your question in the Gospel I suggest to give it another read brother for real. The Lord would talk in many ways that didn't mean literally what it meant. Wise is the Lord
You will always have 3 Image in mind when you think about God... Your heart will never find eternal peace if you are in the search of the ONE and only true God, while you belive in Trinity.
Perhaps someone could help me understand. I just really don't understand. If He is one being, how could there be three different persons with different thought processes? And if they think and act independently, they would not be one being, correct? For instance, my hand does not have a mind of its own. If it did, we would probably treat that as a conjoined-twins situation and give my hand its own social security. I suppose you could make the argument that they are conjoined somehow spiritually, but they would still be separate beings, and would be treated as such. If anyone does have a better explanation, I'd be willing to listen. I honestly am pretty confused about the concept.
Aa someone said "The only way to understand the trinity is to lose your logic and become confused to a point you accept everything." There are many Christian denominations that teaches the Trinity. However, notice what the Encyclopedia Britannica states: “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies.” Try sticking to what the bible says and that God is the Father, Jesus is his son and our savior and the Holly Spirit is God's active force. "After Jesus brings about Kingdom blessings to earth, he will hand over the Kingdom to his God and Father - 1 Cor 15:24 “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.”-John 17:3. “You, whose name is Jehovah (Yahweh) , you alone are the Most High over all the earth.”-Psalm 83:18. “My Father is greater than I [Jesus].”-John 14:28. * “I [Jesus] ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and your God.”-John 20:17. “To us there is but one God, the Father.”-1 Corinthians 8:6. “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”-1 Peter 1:3. “These things saith the Amen [Jesus], . . . the beginning of the creation of God.”-Revelation 3:14. * "No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him". John 1:18 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Mathew 7:21 "Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One.10 Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ.11 But the greatest one among you must be your minister" Mathew 23.9 "Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’ Mathew 7:22-23
@@itapinfomaps6233 Ya, I just don't understand. It is so much easier to understand they are separate, and in verses where they appear to be one entity can easily be explained by verses like these in John 17: 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
Hi Javi... I'm glad that you are thinking about this topic. To believe that Jesus is God is to disregard the bible as a whole. It is not surprising that Cardinal Hosius is quoted as having said: “We believe the doctrine of a triune God, because we have received it by tradition, though not mentioned at all in Scripture.” (Conf. Cathol. Fidei, Chap. XXVI). Another persons are just as frank about declaring the trinity to be of pagan origin is Arthur Weigall, in his book The Paganism in Our Christianity, states: “Jesus Christ never mentioned such a phenomenon, and nowhere in the New Testament does the word ‘Trinity’ appear.” Even the Pope recently has been quoted as saying that Jesus is not God. I have included the links to prove this. th-cam.com/video/jVz8CGkRieo/w-d-xo.html . Note the following link which the Vatican did not deny these claims. th-cam.com/video/etmDA1zNPyE/w-d-xo.html . John 17:3 encourages us “And this is the way to have eternal life-to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth”. 1 John 2:3 reiterates this importance by stating “And we can be sure that we know him if we obey his commandments”. 1John:6 gives us this warning about our worship to God: “So we are lying if we say we have fellowship with God but go on living in spiritual darkness; we are not practicing the truth. - New Living Translation. So consider the following. Another blatant scriptural fact that Christendom ignores and does not teach is, that unlike God whose name is Jehovah, Jesus is God’s first creation, and had a beginning (which is correct when John 1:1 reads that in the beginning the word was with God… Since God has no beginning, this isn’t talking about God, but Jesus) which is clearly the main reason he is not God. - This is what Colossians 1:15 says about Jesus: “The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation” - New International Version. This is why Jesus is described as God’s only begotten or first born son. It not only says that Jesus was God’s first creation in Colossians 1:15 but in 8 other verses in the bible also. Please read also Revelation 3:14, Psalms 89:27, Proverbs 8:22, 27 to 30, Hebrews 1:5&6, Romans 1:7, Matthew 3:16&17 & John17:3 & 8, Psalms 89:27 to confirm this for yourself. Can you categorically deny that these scriptures say that Jesus was God’s first creation? Nowhere in the bible does God Jehovah, Jesus, or the Apostles say that Jesus is God. In fact the opposite is true and factual since Jehovah God himself states that he is alone God. Psalms 83:18 which reads “That men may know that you, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, are the most high over all the earth” - American King James Version. Isiah 42:8 says “I am Jehovah, that is my name; and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise unto graven images” American Standard Version. Also confirmed in Exodus 34:14 says “For thou shalt worship no other God; for Jehovah -- Jealous is his name -- is a jealous God;” - Darby Bible Translation.
Jesus himself stated that he is not God. In fact many times he said he was not God. John 20:17 reads “Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God” New King James Version. At Mark 15:34 it also reads “And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?” which is translated, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” New King James Version. Jesus knew that he was not God, because he instructed that worship should be directed to his Father Jehovah and not to him. Mark 10:18 states “"Why do you call me good?" Jesus asked him. "Nobody is good except for one-God. - International Standard Version. The apostles also confirms this for us. What is interesting is that everything written about Jesus after John was completed after his return to heaven. So 1Corinthians 11:3 also confirms that Jesus was not God in heaven also since it reads: “But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God” New King James Version. Please also note, Philippians 2:6 states “Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;” - New International Version. This is confirmed by Jesus himself many times, but note what he says towards the end of his life on Earth, at John 14:28 : “You have heard Me say to you, ‘I am going away and coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, ‘I am going to the Father,’ for My Father is greater than I”. - New King James Version. The bible is very clear on this point. Jehovah is God, and Jesus is his first creation which he calls his first born. 1John 4:9 & 10 states: “In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.” - New King James Version. Does it state there or anywhere else in the bible that he sent himself or God sent any part of himself to the earth? No. There are other scriptures that also confirms that Jesus is not God but his first born or his creation. John 3:16 states: “For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.” - New Living Translation. John 3:18 continues “Anyone who believes in him is not condemned, but anyone who does not believe is already condemned, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God.” - Christian Standard Bible. No scripture exists to confirm definitively that Jesus is God. Jesus himself never says that he is God, and the apostles and disciples never wrote that he was God. Note what 2Corinthians 1:3 says: “All praise to God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. God is our merciful Father and the source of all comfort”. - New Living Translation. 1 Corinthians 10:20&21 tells us to stay away from pagan teachings “lest we want to be sharers with the demons”. The origin of the Trinity can be dated back to early Egyptians and Babylonians. It was only incorporated into Christianity after the 3rd Century by pagan Christians. Colossians 2:8 warns us then: “See to it, then, that no one enslaves you by means of the worthless deceit of human wisdom, which comes from the teachings handed down by human beings and from the ruling spirits of the universe, and not from Christ”. - Good News Translation. Unfortunately, not only is the teaching that Jesus is God, but Christendom as a whole has whole heartedly embraced other pagan false teachings into the bible, such as the Cross, Christmas, Easter, Hell, Saint Worship, none of which the first century or the Christians of the bible believed, taught or followed. If you want to worship the one and only true God acceptably, find a Church which has rejected all these pagan teachings. First benefit is as stated in John 8:32 - You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. Did you notice that the first step is to know the truth. And the first main truth that Jesus taught was that when we pray, we should first pray for the sanctification of God’s name against Satan’s lies. Jesus said all praise should go to his God and Father as he instructed in the Lord’s Prayer before we pray for anything the first thing we should pray for is as found in Matthew 6:9: “You should pray like this: Our Father in heaven, help us to honor your name”. - Contemporary English Version. Note, Jesus was confirming what the scriptures say, that his God, and their God is the same, That his father in Heaven and their father in heaven is one in the same also because Jesus confirmed for us in his own words in this scripture “Our father in heaven”. This is the bad side of not knowing or wanting to know the truth about God and his son Jesus. Those that continue to believe that Jesus is God, and not God’s first creation and first born son as written in the bible and mentioned above can also be likened to Cardinal Hosius was quoted in the outset having said: “We believe the doctrine of a triune God, because we have received it by tradition, though not mentioned at all in Scripture.” (Conf. Cathol. Fidei, Chap. XXVI), however, note what Jesus says about those who incorporate false and pagan traditions into true worship as found in Mark 7:6-9: “Jesus replied: You are nothing but show-offs! The prophet Isaiah was right when he wrote that God had said, "All of you praise me with your words, but you never really think about me. It is useless for you to worship me, when you teach rules made up by humans. You disobey God's commands in order to obey what humans have taught. You are good at rejecting God's commands so that you can follow your own teachings!” - Contemporary English Version. Mark 7:13 highlights the folly of worship taught from man and not God. Jesus said “You are destroying the word of God through your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many other things like that." - International Standard Version. Find the truth and absolute truth about God, Jesus and his other teachings. This will mean everlasting life as stated in John 3:16 “For God loved the world in this way: so much that he would give up his Son, The Only One, so that everyone who trusts in him shall not be lost, but he shall have eternal life”. - Aramaic Bible in Plain English.
@@paeng46 The Apostles also warned the congregations about false teachings and teachers that would soon arrive after them in Acts 20:29 & 30 which reads “For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves” - New King James Version. See also 1 Timothy 4:1 to 3, 2 Timothy 4:3 & 4, 2Peter 2:1 to 3, 2Peter 2:12 & 13. 1John 2:3&4 reads: “This is how we can be sure that we have come to know him: if we continually keep his commandments. The person who says, "I have come to know him," but does not continually keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth has no place in that person. International Standard Version. If the Trinity, or the notion of the Trinity is not found in the Hebrew Scriptures, Would Jesus not say that he is God, and or clarify this for us in no uncertain terms? Absolutely he would, however Jesus in no way clarifies the trinity because this is not God’s teaching or true. Jesus, the Disciples and the Apostles, all recognised Jesus to be the son and first creation of God. Not God. After all the multitudes of scriptures I have quoted, please also note what these religious and highly respectable and reputable sources says about Jesus and his relationship with God and the Trinity and the bible: 1) "Theologians today are in agreement that the Hebrew Bible does not contain a doctrine of the Trinity" (The Encyclopedia of Religion, ed. Mircea Eliade, Macmillan Publishing Company, 1987, Vol. 15, p. 54). 2) "The doctrine of the Trinity is not taught in the Old Testament" (New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1967, Vol. XIV, p. 306). 3) "Nowhere in the Old Testament do we find any clear indication of a Third Person" (The Catholic Encyclopedia, 1912, Vol. 15, p. 49). 4) "The Old Testament clearly does not envisage God’s spirit as a person…God’s spirit is simply God’s power. If it is sometimes represented as being distinct from God, it is because the breath of Yahweh acts exteriorly…The majority of New Testament texts reveal God’s spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of God" (New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1967, Vol. 13, pp. 574, 575). 5) "On the whole the New Testament, like the Old, speaks of the spirit as a divine energy or power" (W.E. Addis and Thomas Arnold, A Catholic Dictionary, 1960, p. 810). 6) "The third Person was asserted at a Council of Alexandria in 362...and finally by the Council of Constantinople of 381" (A Catholic Dictionary, p. 812). 7) "Karl Rahner [leading Roman Catholic spokesman] points out with so much emphasis that the Son in the New Testament is never described as ‘ho theos’ [the one God]" (A.T. Hanson, Grace and Truth, p. 66). 8) "The New Testament writers...give us no formal or formulated doctrine of the Trinity, no explicit teaching that in one God there are three equal divine persons.... Nowhere do we find any Trinitarian doctrine of three distinct subjects of divine life and activity in the same Godhead" (Fortman, The Triune God, pp. xv, xvi, 16). 9) "Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament" (The New Encyclopedia Britannica, 1985, Vol. 11, p. 928). 10) "Fourth-century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary a deviation from this teaching" (The Encyclopedia Americana, p. 1956, p. 2941). 11) "Apparently Paul did not call Jesus God" (Sydney Cave, D.D., Doctrine of the Person of Christ, p. 48). 12) "Paul habitually differentiates Christ from God" (C.J. Cadoux, A Pilgrim’s Further Progress, pp. 40, 42). 13) "Paul never equates Jesus with God" (W.R. Matthews, The Problem of Christ in the 20th Century, Maurice Lectures, 1949, p. 22). 14) "Paul never gives to Christ the name or description of ‘God’" (Dictionary of the Apostolic Church, Vol. 1, p. 194). 15) "When the New Testament writers speak of Jesus Christ, they do not speak of Him nor do they think of Him as God" (J.M. Creed, The Divinity of Jesus Christ, pp. 122-123). 16) "[Matt. 28:19] proves only that there are the three subjects named,...but it does not prove, by itself, that all the three belong necessarily to the divine nature, and possess equal divine honor…This text, taken by itself, would not prove decisively either the personality of the three subjects mentioned, or their equality or divinity" (McClintock and Strong, Cyclopedia of Biblical, Theological and Ecclesiastical Literature, 1987, Vol. X, p. 552). 17) "The Old Testament tells us nothing explicitly or by necessary implication of a Triune God who is Father, Son and Holy Spirit.... There is no evidence that any sacred writer even suspected the existence of a [Trinity] within the Godhead.... Even to see in the Old Testament suggestions or foreshadowings or ‘veiled signs’ of the Trinity of persons, is to go beyond the words and intent of the sacred writers" (Edmund J. Fortman, The Triune God, Baker Book House, 1972, pp. xv, 8, 9). 18) "The Old Testament is strictly monotheistic. God is a single personal being. The idea that a Trinity is to be found there is utterly without foundation." (L.L. Paine, A Critical History of the Evolution of Trinitarianism, Houghton Mifflin and Co, 1900). 19) "There is no break between the Old Testament and the New. The monotheistic tradition is continued. Jesus was a Jew, trained by Jewish parents in the Old Testament scriptures. His teaching was Jewish to the core; a new gospel indeed but not a new theology…And he accepted as his own belief the great text of Jewish monotheism: Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God is one God" (L.L. Paine, A Critical History of the Evolution of Trinitarianism, Houghton Mifflin and Co., 1900, p. 4). 20) "The fact has to be faced that New Testament research over, say, the last thirty or forty years has been leading an increasing number of reputable New Testament scholars to the conclusion that Jesus...certainly never believed himself to be God" ((Bulletin of the John Rylands Library, 1967-68, Vol. 50, p. 251). I encourage all who want to serve God in Truth and in Spirit to do so in the willingness to give up and reject all falsehoods not found in the bible. Bible says 1Corinthians 11:3 “But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God” New King James Version. Philippians 2:6 states “Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;” - New International Version. Jesus himself say's in John 20:17 “Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God” New King James Version. The origin of the Trinity can be dated back to early Egyptians and Babylonians. It was only incorporated into Christianity after the 3rd Century by pagan Christians. Colossians 2:8 warns us then: “See to it, then, that no one enslaves you by means of the worthless deceit of human wisdom, which comes from the teachings handed down by human beings and from the ruling spirits of the universe, and not from Christ”. - Good News Translation. The bible tells us, if we want to worship God in an acceptable way, we all need and must find a religion that only worships the one true God of the bible Jehovah as stated in the bible at Psalms 83:18: “That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.” - King James Bible, and a religion that honours that name. That also follow all of the holy writings in God’s word, and reject all false pagan and demonic celebrations such as Christmas and Easter, and pagan symbols and amulets such as the cross or the crescent moon, and any form of angel, or saint worship or any worship other to Jehovah God. Then we will be the very few who chooses to go through the narrow gate to life instead of the many who walk on wide open road to destruction. Is that not reasonable?
@@paeng46 I can only tell you what the bible says. If you can show which scriptures definitively say's that Jesus himself said he was, is, or part of God, then I will look this up. But such scriptures don't exist. Why? Because the bible says that Jesus is God's first creation in these scriptures below. I encourage you to look these up in your own bible to see for yourself. I also encourage you to google what is the origin of the Trinity as it is not a Godly, or biblical teaching. Don't you agree if the bible is the true word of God then it cannot contradict itself, right? So do the scriptures that the church use to try to prove that Jesus is God, contradict any from the bible and listed in my last comment or in the comments below? Yes. The only teaching on this point of who is God that doesn’t have any contradiction is what Jesus and the apostle’s state from the bible that I have listed in my last comments and in this one. The Church has been known to successfully incorporate false demonic pagan teaching that worship other god's into Christendom, such as Easter and Christmas, and the Cross... So this just proves that it is another false teaching and not a Godly one. Going back to Jesus, the apostles under inspiration from the Holy Spirit wrote in Colossians 1:15 "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation." - New King James Version. Does it not clearly state that “He” being Jesus is the first born over all creation. The beginning of all things created from God? John 1:1 states "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." - New King James Version. Lets break this scripture down. It says that "In the beginning the word was with God. The "word" being Jesus who is to act as God's spokesman cannot be one and the same as God. Why? Because it says that "In the beginning the word was with God". It cannot be talking about the beginning of God, since God has no beginning. This scripture also confirms that like humans, Jesus was created in as stated above in Colossians 1:15 in God's image. However, unlike Humans Jesus is the first born or first creation from God. We know from Revelation 1:1 that God gave the revelation to Jesus, then Jesus gave it to the angels to give to the congregations. In Revelation 3:14 it states “And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write, ‘These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God:" - "New King James Version . The point of Jesus being God was not an issue with the Jews or the Christians back then, they knew that Jesus was God's first born or God's first creation, which is why this scripture confirms this to be the case... Where Jesus as the Amen or the Faithful and True Witness (being Jesus as God's spokesman or His appointed Word) confirms that he is God's first creation. How did the Hebrews know that Jesus who came as God's son could not have been God himself? Well Jesus confirms this for us when he was asked. John 10:33 & 36 reads: They answered, "We are not stoning you because of any good thing you did. We are stoning you because you did a terrible thing. You are just a man, and here you are claiming to be God!". So why do you accuse me of a terrible sin for saying that I am the Son of God? After all, it is the Father who prepared me for this work. He is also the one who sent me into the world." - Contemporary English Version . Jesus never claim he was God. In fact Jesus clarified he was not God, but as God's first creation he was God's son. John 20:17 reads “Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God” - New King James Version. Which is why also the apostle Paul confirms for us that Jesus is not God in 1Corinthians 11:3 “But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God” New King James Version. Mark 15:34 also reads “And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?” which is translated, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” New King James Version. Also compare Matthew 27:46. John 1:18 reads “No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him” New King James Version. So it makes no sense to say that Jesus is God as thousands saw Jesus every day. See also Matthew 27:43. John 17:3 reads “And eternal life means to know you, the only true God, and to know Jesus Christ, whom you sent". - Good News Translation. Yes the distinction is clear that we need to know the only true God, whose name is Jehovah, and the one he sent who we know as Jesus who acted as his word who became his Faithful and True Witness. Proverbs 8:22 , 23 give us a special glimpse of heaven at the very beginning of John 1:1: "The LORD created me as His first course, before His works of old. From everlasting I was established, from the beginning, before the earth began". verses 27 to 30 continues "I was there when He established the heavens, when He inscribed a circle on the face of the deep, when He established the clouds above, when the fountains of the deep gushed forth, when He set a boundary for the sea, so that the waters would not surpass His command, when He marked out the foundations of the earth. Then I was a skilled craftsman at His side, and His delight day by day, rejoicing always in His presence. - Berean Study Bible. These scriptures also confirm that as the one described in the verses above he was in fact God's first creation, before anything else was made, and he became Gods master worker. In what sense? John 1:1 confirms that the word who is Jesus was with God in the beginning, verse 2 says "He was in the beginning with God. " , and verse 3 says "All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made." - Again since God has no beginning it is not talking about God's beginning but when Jesus was created or begotten. God allowed Jesus to create all other things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made." - New King James Version. This is also confirm in the creation account of Jesus at Colossians 1:15 to 17: "The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together." - New International Version. Please read these cross references to the scriptures above: John 1:10, 1 Corinthians 8:6, Hebrews 1:2, 1 John 5:1. So who in fact created the Heavens and the Earth? Colossians 1:16 tells us 'For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-- all things have been created through Him and for Him." - New American Standard Bible. Like the cross reference scriptures above, Colossians 1:16 tells us that All things were created for him and through him. It's like when Jesus was on earth, who cured the sick and raised the dead? Jesus knew that it was not him, but that his power comes from God. In the same way, all things were created by Jesus, but it is God's power that worked through him that makes it possible for him to do so. Another interesting fact is, Jesus is the only one that can be called God's only begotten son. Because as God's first creation, Jesus was made directly by God. Then God Jehovah used Jesus to create everything else. Which is why God say's in Hebrews 1:5 "For to which of the angels did He ever say: “You are My Son, Today I have begotten You”? And again: “I will be to Him a Father, And He shall be to Me a Son”?" - New King James Version. God prophesied in Psalms 89:27 & 28 "Indeed, I myself made him the firstborn, the highest of the kings of the earth. I will show my gracious love toward him forever, since my covenant is securely established with him. I will establish his dynasty forever, and his throne as long as heaven endures." - International Standard Version. Psalms 110:1 also reads “{Psalm of David.} Jehovah said unto my Lord, Sit at my right hand, until I put thine enemies [as] footstool of thy feet” Darby Bible Translation. The confirmation of this fulfillment will be made when Jesus as God's appointed will be king of God's kingdom before he hands back this kingdom to God as stated in 1Corinthians 15:27 & 28 which reads “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him (GOD) is not made into subject.. Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all” New King James Version. This scripture is much easier to understand in the Christian Standard Bible “For God has put everything under his feet. Now when it says "everything" is put under him, it is obvious that he who puts everything under him is the exception. When everything is subject to Christ, then the Son himself will also be subject to the one who subjected everything to him, so that God may be all in all”. Yes Jesus will be subject over everything except God, then after Jesus rule of God's kingdom (1000 years) ends, he himself will willingly return all things to God and to subject himself to God in all things. How is it that he can be one and the same with God, if he is to be in Subjection to God? Simply put he cannot. I hope this helps.
Richard Chileshe Are you asking for the text that says Jesus himself said that he is God? I will give you Revelation 1:8 just to start with. By the way, I don’t post very long comments. I didn’t read all that you’ve written in two of your comments. But I read only parts of them, just to be honest with you. Please post only one argument at a time. In Revelation 1:8, Jesus said “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, *THE ALMIGHTY”.*
“Those who have ears, let them listen.” We broke God’s law and “someone” came and paid the fine. When we stand before God at judgement, He can dismiss our case for it has been paid by the cleansing of our sins, by blood, through the path that has been paved, that we have been called to take; for we must take; to the Kingdom of God, to be with Him. Without The Cross, we will never be able to be with God; never; for God is pure in nature, and sin cannot coexist in Him. The day will come for us to know this “someone”; His nature, His love, His sacrifice, His obedience, His humility, His passion, His mind, His thoughts, His heart; He Himself, and we will be blown away; for none is like Him; for ages may come and go, but none is like Him. None. Not one. He is The First and The Last. The moment we see Him, our knees will will bow, our tongues will confess; You are; indeed; Lord! He is the The Lamb. Understand God’s wrath and why it is justifiable; for He created earth and called it our home, gave us all and all, and requested only obedience, a test, which came in the form of a tree, for we cannot coexist with Him in disobedience, for He is REAL, and yet we broke the pact, and through many attempts to cleanse us, we choose to fail Him. We killed His prophets, His messengers, His people who reminded us of His plea; for He is REAL. Finally, as it was promised, it was fulfilled; for He had to; for others who He sent were muted. He who is our God, The God who created everything around you with His words; He who came, who walked, who taught, who loved, who shared, who healed; the sea obeyed, the demons bowed, the blind see, the mute speak, the deaf hear, THE DEAD RAISED! (Are you listening???!!!) ...but never had a place to lay his head, slept on the streets, pavements, deserts, rivers, and yet did not declare Himself as God, was mocked, spat on, slapped, punched, beaten, bruised, hated, despised and bled to death! Bled to death; for He deeply loves us, wants to be with us, and for us to be with Him. We must understand His love before we are worthy to even speak about it. Even for all ages to come, one will not be able to understand His love and the mysteries of The Cross in full. He is coming again; and He is coming again; and again shall I say again; this time; as The Lion. Know this “someone” today. God have mercy on us all. (Please, for what is left of your life in this world; for you know not when you will take your last breath; for my sake and for the sake of His mercy; venture into this 4 books called The Gospel; MATTHEW/MARK/LUKE/JOHN. Without these, you will not know what you are dealing with, FOR SOULS ARE AT STAKE.) John 14:6 KJV The end is near. MERCY! MERCY!
Do you want The Truth? Yes? Are you willing to give up everything for The Truth? Yes? Will you die for The Truth, so that others may know The Truth? Yes? So shall it be; The Truth shall make you free. The Word of God saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6 KJV For I am the Father, I am the Son, I am the Spirit. It is He, His Word, His Spirit. “Be still, and know that I am God.” *You are given a will to say, “No”. It all comes down to; DO YOU LOVE GOD? Yes? “Follow me” (MATTHEW/MARK/LUKE/JOHN)
Hear! For it is; I, MY WORD, MY SPIRIT. I(God/Almighty/Creator) MY WORD(The Messiah/The Christ/The Saviour/The Prince of Peace/The Son of God/The King of Kings/The Redeemer/The Counsellor/The Lord of Lords/The Word of God/The Son of Man/The Light of the world/The Rabbi/Son of David/The Bread of Life/The Ark of the Covenant/The Advocate/The Good Shepherd/The High Priest/The Lamb of God/The Lion of Judah/The Chief Cornerstone/The Way/The Truth/The Life) MY SPIRIT(Holy Spirit/Holy Ghost/The Comforter/The Spirit of Truth/The Helper/The Wisdom/The Knowledge/The Counsel/The Might/The Breathe of The Almighty/The Giver of Life) For it is all I; I am: I am The Alpha and The Omega: The First and The Last. I came; 2000 years ago. I come; soon and again; to judge the living and the dead. I AM.
Don’t misunderstand me! I am not God! I am sending you what The Spirit of God is revealing! I am a sinner! I am sinner like you! I am a sinner worst than you can be! He; God, is coming! He is calling all to repent and turn away from sin! The gates to Kingdom of Heaven is about to be opened and closed, and narrow is the path to it, for wide it is to hell! Many are walking the wide path for they are following a false god! The world we are living is satanic! Nobody wants to listen! Everybody thinks they know it better than God! Everybody wants to be God! It wrong! It’s wrong! Fire is awaiting! Wake up! Wake up! God’s name is not jesus! The names in The Scripture (today we call it The Holy Bible) are added and changed! He is God! Do not identify Him with a name just as we identify humans with names! God’s name = God’s nature! Wear His nature! He wants you to cast out demons! He wants you to heal the sick! He wants you to preach the Good News! You must wear His name! How?? (MATTHEW/MARK/LUKE/JOHN) The Good News gives you access to The Kingdom of God! It is eternal life! Forever with God! Satan is also creating his kingdom! Has! This is his kingdom! He is the angel of light! All have been deceived and are being deceived deeper into the abyss! God does not have long hair with blue eyes! All you see around you is the satan’s devices! All! Religion! Systems! All I mean all! I won’t be here for long! Please! Search for The Truth! God is awaiting for your answer! MERCY!
He, who we know as Jesus Christ (not his real name), is The Word of God. He is; The Son of God. The Law of God. The Spirit of God. The Voice of God. The Word of God. “He is The Word of God.” Revelation 19:13
Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one the true God (the Father) sent! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!
I been reading a lot of comments about the Trinity, and you're right, no one explained nothing. I'm going to explain it for you. All I ask is that you check all that I say before you make a comment. The three names are three keys to a lock. The lock is to the door to his kingdom. You have never heard this before because it has been kept a secret till the end times. Its been over 2000 years and no one has been able to Sovle the mysteries. It's because everyone has the names wonge In the name of the father, Melchizedek. (Hebrew 7:1-3) First his name means King of Righteousness, then also King of Peace. Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of Life, like the son of God he remains forever. In the name of the son Immanuel. (Isaiah 7:14) The Lord himself will give you a sign; and "he" will call him Immanuel. (Matt.1:21) And they will call him Immanuel, means God with us. Jesus said, (John14:15-14) I will ask the father and he will send you another counselor to be with you forever, The spirit of truth. (John 16:13) But when he, the spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. The Spirit is Truth. Who is "he"? The our prayer says that Holy is his name. His name and truth. The Holy Spirit. (Daniel 10:21) (Daniel12:13) Daniel was told what was written in the book of truth and will rise up at the end times. Daniel knows the truth and will rise up at the end times. Daniel is "his" name. You didn't know him cause it wasn't time yet. We are close to the end. In the name of the father Melchizedek. In the name of the son Immanuel. In the name of the holy spirit Daniel. One God in three. You see, Immanuel and Jesus, father and son in one body Now three. (John 5:43) I have come in my father's name, and you do not accept me, but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him. Jesus was subpose to be named Immanuel, his father's name, cause it means, God with us. You do not accept me. Because you choose the name Jesus. But if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him. Daniel is the holy spirit, I am Daniel. I am "He". I come in the name Immanuel, God is with me. Jesus said, beware of those who come in my name claiming, I am he, and will deceive many. Who comes in the name Jesus, claiming Jesus is the Christ? You see, he knew that his name was to be Immanuel. In the name Jesus you worship in vain. Go, go check out all that I have shared. If it makes since then I did good. So far no one beleives. I have only told you, that I am he. If you believe, I can show you where his kingdom is hidden.
You want to understand, read the bible. We have more muslims memorizing the quran by heart from start to end than you guys have people who read the bible from start to end, once you read it you can read quran two, and you will understand the only reasonable answer, which is there is only one god.
@@TheGuiltsOfUs That monster, Mohammed was too busy sleeping with little girls & beheading Jews & robbing caravans & selling black slaves & degrading women as "half-wits" to be spreading peace. He is an enemy of Jesus & everything Jesus stood for. "OMINOUS IMPRESSION" - YOU ARE WELL NAMED! 🙄
NOT bloody Allah of course, but there is only ONE God. Real Christians read the Bible through on a regular basis, end to end, year upon year. Muslims CHANT & memorise an Arabic they cannot understand. Nor do they care to. They mindlessly regurgitate its sloppy amalgam of other religions & folk tales "inspired" by it's illiterate Paedo-Prophet, and then run to the Imam when they hear what Mohammed was ACTUALLY LIKE! On ONE thing you are right; If "You want to understand, read the Bible."
@Raj Singh Thank you Raj, there were certainly some scales falling off reading this. Praise be to God who gives wisdom and understanding to all those who truly seek Him. GodBless.
the doctrine of the Trinity DOES NOT SAY THAT THREE ARE ONE.... that is an extraordinarily common mistake, I know, but completely missing the subject - the doctrine of the Trinity says: there ARE TRULY three distinct personal identities in the one being we call God, who are inseparable and co-eternal, each one possessing the full essence of the infinitely perfect God
@@فهدالسليم-ت9ج . Jesus, the father, and the holy spirit all holds the title of god. They all work in conjunction with eachother. It's different parts of the same machine I guess.
What do you mean debate you on the Trinity? The doctrine of the Trinity was debated at great lengths in the early Christian church against the heretics.
@@ArdaMachtPara I'm saying it's already been debated. Go back and look at the debates that lead to Nicaea. People who deny the doctrine are believing heresy.
there is not, and never exists and never will exist, a single person on the planet earth who can explain the inexplicable paganism camouflaged as monotheism. simply
WHAT'S THE NAME OF ALLAH❓ Allah Means GOD In Arabic. But, Allah Is Not Yahweh & Jesus Christ Is Not A Son Of Allah. Jesus Christ Is A Son Of Yahweh 💯👍. Based On The Quran, Allah Is A Jinn. Father Of 3 Daughters (Read Quran Properly) 💯👍 Eg:- Surah Safat 37:149, Surah Safat 37:158, Surah Al Bagra 2:165, Surah Ibrahim 14:30 🔺 IT'S ONLY SOME OF THE EXAMPLES END ISLAM☪️🚫 BUT, I Respect And Love All Religious & Non-Religious People. But, I Never Respect Islam Religion (Satanic Version). Because, It's Dangerous For The Entire World 💯👍. MAY GOD BLESS YOU ❤️
@@henreeeef3214 Not "It" But "HE" Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send HIM unto you. And when HE is come, HE will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when HE, the Spirit of truth, is come, HE will guide you into all truth: for HE shall not speak of HIMSELF; but whatsoever HE shall hear, that shall HE speak: and HE will shew you things to come. HE shall glorify me: for HE shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that HE shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you. Since when has somebody called you an "It"?? Assuming that henreee is a "him". John 16:7-8, 11-15 KJV
@@henreeeef3214 That is the Hebrew meaning true enough. Now here is Jesus who came to us as an actual Hebrew. And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you. But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a SPIRIT. Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a SPIRIT hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. Luke 24:36-37, 39 KJV Jesus in the shape and form of a man proved that he was of flesh. Yet they thought he was a ghost (PERSON) in the form of a man. Again----What have I to do with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I implore[c] You by God that You do not torment me.” 8For He said to HIM, “Come out of the man, unclean spirit!” 9Then He asked HIM, “What is your NAME?” And HE answered, saying, “My NAME is Legion; for we are many.” 10Also HE begged Him earnestly that He would not send them out of the country. ---" We are many".. They are ONE inside the man as "LEGION" as their NAME. Spirits aren't "It's". They are beings. Legion HEARD, SPOKE and PRECONCEIVED of whom Jesus was/is. Adam was made a living soul but Jesus a quickening SPIRIT, Were to worship the Father in spirit and in truth bc the father is SPIRIT. The Holy Ghost is Spirit. AND THESE THREE ARE ONE. Which is why we're to be baptized in "The Name" of all three, to be ONE with the three as Jesus said.
@@cam0987 True christians believe in only one true God - John 17:3. Trinitarians believe in 3 gods, no matter how they try to explain it - they are not christian.
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Thank you but I am even more confused and didn't understand a single word
imagine , IAM a god then I made myself a human being to save people whom I created from a sin they did not do and the only way I can save them by killing myself. Then, when the time came to my death (crucifixion) I prayed to me and begged me to save me then I refused my prayer and killed me and iam 3 but 1.....!
God is one .. Convert to islam brother ...You will find what you'r looking for in the holy Quran ....I'm praying for you ...love from Algeria North Africa
Thanks man. I am a muslim myself and don’t understand how GOD is one if there are 3جيش من الخونة يذبح الجزائر
@@NK236 haha this is awesome...complete nonsense is the trinity
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Listen to Him and see Trinity is revealed in old testament. Dont lean on your own understanding.
To everyone on this page, allow the Holy Spirit to reveal the trinity to you. You don't have to explain it to anyone.
He will teach you what you need to know. Stay blessed everyone.
John chapter 20
Verse 27-28
27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
Matthew chapter 3 verses 16-17 shows the Trinity
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
John 1
King James Version
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Genesis 1
King James Version
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
There is only ONE GOD.
@@leahjames6870...in three persons, blessed TRINITY!
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus
Muslim: is Jesus the son of Mary,
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Who created Mary?
Christian: God,
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus
Muslim:Jesus is the begotten son
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Who is his father?
Christian: God.
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus.
Muslim Jesus is a servant of God
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Jesus died on the cross?
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Is Jesus a messenger.
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Who sent him?
Christian: God.
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus.
Muslim: Did Jesus worship while on earth
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Whom did he worship?
Christian: God.
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus.
Muslim: Did God have a beginning
Christian: No
Muslim: Then who was born on 25/DEC?
Christian: Jesus.
Muslim: Is Jesus God.
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Where's God?
Christian: In heaven,
Muslim: How many Gods are there in heaven?
Christian: Only one God.
Muslim: Where's Jesus?
Christian: He is seated on the right hand of his father.
Muslim: Then how many are they in heaven?
Christian: Only one God.
Muslim: Then how many seats?
Christian: one
Muslim: where's Jesus?
Christian: Seated next to God.
Muslim: How are they seated on one chair?
Christian: Its only understood by those with the Ghost. You need Ghost my friend.
@@peace_seeker5545what you wrote is called Modalism or Oneness which is the false teaching that each person of the TRINITY is only personality of the FATHER.
Christians believe in GOD who is FATHER, SON and HOLY SPIRIT. They are separate but all are one GOD.
John 1 : 1 in almost all versions
"In the Beginning was the WORD and the WORD was with GOD and the WORD was GOD." JESUS was with GOD the FATHER from the beginning as the WORD.
The HOLY SPIRIT proceeds from the FATHER by the authority of JESUS (John 14 : 15 through 20 and 26).
JESUS is GOD the FATHER'S ONLY begotten SON (John 3 : 16).
Through CHRIST all things were created and cannot exist without him (Colossians 1 : 16 and 17). The Bible is simple to understand.
The Bible doesn't say JESUS is the FATHER and HOLY SPIRIT.
That really didn’t explain it for me. I might be more confused now.
If you want to understand the Trinity go to The Lord's Day Ministry. God gave me a revelation that perfectly explains it.
God concept in islam is very easy and simple
God is one . He has no partners . No son . Jesus is one of his messengers . He created him miraculously without father .
@@mohammadkhalaylih2758 Mohammad is a false prophet though. Making Islam a false religion.
@dellapearl I hope this helps like us we made of three . Body,soul, spirit. Gods the same. I hope that helps. Or think it like one persons attributes
@@paulinefranz2659 How in John 8:18 Jesus and the Father are two witnesses?
How many people clicked because they thought the title said "The Simplest Way to EXPLAIN the Trinity" lolol
If you want to understand the Trinity go to The Lord's Day Ministry. God gave me a revelation that perfectly explains it.
@Rose For starters the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit don't have different abilities. They are genetically the same (perfect).
For seconds, Mohammad is a false prophet that was a pedophile, rapist, and murderer. I'm proudly an infidel!
Book of acts chapter 7 verse 55-56
Matthew chapter 3 verse 16 -17
There is a Trinity a GOD Head.
HOLY HOLY HOLY Lord GOD Almighty..,,.,.
Actually really liked this. Keep it simple. The only missing part was the clarification that each person is also fully 100% God-that God’s essence is one and not divided into three parts.
If the Trinity does not make sense to you when reading the Bible please feel free to send me a private message. I am not looking to get into any debates but there are those who read the Bible and do not believe in the Trinity in the traditional sense. If something about it has never sat right with you feel free to send me a message and we can talk about it. For anyone unsure I can tell you this much... I believe that everything which is written in the bible is true and I do my absolute best to understand only what the Bible tells us, referring heavily to the language which it was written in by the original authors. Nothing more and nothing less. The English translations of the Bible are where the majority of the confusion surrounding this topic appear to arise.
The Trinity certainly doesn't even make sense even to those who supposedly are forced to believe it.
Jesus shied away from the notion of he being God.
Luke 18:19 Jesus said to him: “Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except one, God.
Jesus also called his God, the ONLY TRUE GOD.
John 17:3 This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
Believing what the bible DOES TEACH is safer that trying to make the Bible teach what we want it to teach.
@@tongakhan230 I totally agree, I do not believe the bible preaches the Trinity, I believe it is a man made interpretation of scriptural passages and is largely due to the confusion caused by translating into English.
What's the name of the 3rd person of the trinity , I will give you 3 guesses the last 2 don't count ( Acts 20:28 )
@@Lostandfoundrecipes-lz2mm was this intended to be sent to me? I feel as if you may have commented in the wrong thread accidentally?
Not making sense at all
If u need help I’ll understand. Basically the Christian trinity consist of God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. The difference is that God is the one who created the universe and etc etc. Jesus was sent after the old testament to get humanity right with God, because of our sin and rebellion when Adam and Eve ate the fruit. Basically Jesus was 100 human, 100 God. He was both 100, and not 50/50 because he was in a Human form, but he had God in him, that’s also why he was perfect. So Jesus was just God, but in a human form. Then we have to Holy Spirit. The holy spirit is just what lingers around both the earth and the Heavens. Just like any other “ghost” or bad spirit. Except the Holy Spirit is a good one it is God’s spirit. God made Jesus and the Holy Spirit to be where he couldn’t, I mean yea he could come down on earth but u get what I mean, unless u don’t I’d be happy to go into more detail.
@@ar1xyz Dear it's no more than just a story and a pretty illogical one.
@@sasnad3 Umm do i not believe in God, and if so then what is illogical or doesn’t make sense?
@@ar1xyz If God created man and man's feelings, pain and emotion then why did he have to come down in human form to experience all of that. He is God isn't he. And what exactly is the purpose of the holy spirit. Why was bible written years after jesus by someone who didnt even personally know him. What makes it holy?
@@sasnad3 Actually it’s not just 1 person who wrote it. There are about 50+ authors if I’m correct but I know there’s more than just one or two. Second, that could be me asking you what makes the Quran holy, but what makes the Bible holy is that it was written by multiple people with amazing stories and talks about the amazing God Yahweh. And also proof that it wasn’t written by ine persin way after Jesus hit the scence, is that there are four gospels. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. They were some of Jesus’s disciples, and I think John’s written by Jesus’s cousin, but 1,2,3 John by his disciple, anyways the four gospels are just about different point of views from each of his disciple. But in total he had 12. I hope I answered all ur questions right there?
I've read your comments .and not heard him yet. I only know I pray to my father through Jesus Christ ..and the holy spirit lives in me.
There are many Christian denominations that teaches the Trinity. However, notice what the Encyclopedia Britannica states: “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies.”
Try sticking to what the bible says and that God is the Father, Jesus is his son and our savior and the Holly Spirit is God's active force.
"After Jesus brings about Kingdom blessings to earth, he will hand over the Kingdom to his God and Father - 1 Cor 15:24
“This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.”-John 17:3.
“You, whose name is Jehovah (Yahweh) , you alone are the Most High over all the earth.”-Psalm 83:18.
“My Father is greater than I [Jesus].”-John 14:28. *
“I [Jesus] ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and your God.”-John 20:17.
“To us there is but one God, the Father.”-1 Corinthians 8:6.
“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”-1 Peter 1:3.
“These things saith the Amen [Jesus], . . . the beginning of the creation of God.”-Revelation 3:14. *
"No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him". John 1:18
“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Mathew 7:21
"Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One.10 Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ.11 But the greatest one among you must be your minister" Mathew 23.9
"Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’ Mathew 7:22-23
God isn't weak, dependent or ignorant as Jesus was, also God doesn't need to pray to God and beg him for help like Jesus did.
Don't worship a brown middle-eastern man that never asked to be worshipped or EVER said "I am God"
"Trinity" is an oral teaching by St. Augustine when he says "The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. God exalts Himself". St. Augustine is a Roman Catholic monk.
Nope. The trinity was explained by both Saint Paul and Saint Peter repeatedly. Jesus also explained the trinity. Saint Augustine came way later.
Where does the 3 in 1 was from? The bible didn't pay serious focus on that. Why does church claims it to be true? Sometimes I even hear people confused in their prayer when calling out both to Jesus and God. However, Jesus himself teach us how to pray, which was not praying to him, but only in his name.
www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/booklets/is-god-a-trinity/how-ancient-trinitarian-gods-influenced-adoption-of-the-trinity
Book of acts chapter 7 verse 55-56
Matthew chapter 3 verse 16 -17
There is a Trinity a GOD Head.
HOLY HOLY HOLY Lord GOD Almighty.,,,,,,,,
@@mudfoot3000 it doesn't explain the Trinity. Only communication between God the father and Jesus Christ
It comes from Hellenic science which influenced Christianity
I'm by no means knowledgeable enough to speak with any authority on this, but the way I think of it is that over time, it became obvious and logically certain that Christ The Son, The Father, and The Holy Spirit were actually three parts of one whole, that while separate beings, they exist as one.
Think of it like this, there's body mind and spirit. The three, while separate and distinct entities, they are YOU. You exist as a body, mind and a spirit.
God created us in His image so He could be known by His creation. This simply means we are limited copies of the trinity; mind, body and spirit all combined to form a single being. This is the only way we could possibly question our existence, seek to know God or understand the Trinity.
With the Holy Trinity there is:
Father (mind)
Son (body)
Holy Spirit (spirit)
Soul is the other one. Mind is technically not you.
@@theepicenter4106 to me it feels like it is.
@@dud3man6969 well let's take it from the Scriptures then...
Now may the God of peace himself sanctify you completely. And may your whole spirit, soul, and body be kept sound and blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
1 Thessalonians 5:23
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ALLAH IS ONE AND JESUS WAS A PROPHET
I used to see the trinity this way but now I picture a head and I see:
Father = Mind
Holy Spirit = Breath
Son = Word
The Gospel is not meant to be a confusing, bewildering puzzle.
If it took 381 years after the resurrection to figure out all the difficult details of the Trinity Doctrine... maybe it's incorrect?
There's a book which anyone who wants to know more about the basics of the Blessed Triniy should get hold of:
it's titled "Theology and Sanity", by Frank Sheed, published by Ignatius Press. In its 400-plus pages, it devotes a 30-plus section to the Doctrine of the Trinity.
One reviewer of this book wrote: "Of Sheed's many books, this is my favourite, not just because it includes the clearest explanation of the Trinity ever put on paper..."
Only the Perfect. Infinite, Eternal God can ever know Himself totally, but this book sheds a worthwhile amount of light on the Inner Life of God...and what it says makes perfect sense.
TRINITY EXPLAINED:-
JESUS CHRIST IS TRUE GOD ✝️❤️
Contradiction is "A" and Not "A" at same time. Eg: "Three beings in one being!" Or "Three persons in one person!" is Contradiction. But, Christians (Catholic) beleive that "Three persons in one being (One God)!". It's not Contradiction 💯👍
So that, 1 God = 3 Persons & 3 Persons are God ✝️
In this world, 1 being = 1 Person. But in the case of God, 1 being = 3 persons🔥🔥🔥
On the human level one person is one being, and any two persons are two beings. But, God is another dimension. DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF GOD & HIS TRUTHS. AMEN 🙏
🌹"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "Before Abraham was born, I AM" - JOHN 8:58
🌹In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth - GENESIS 1:1
🌹In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God - JOHN 1:1
🌹The word became a flesh & lived here with us - JOHN 1:14
I BELIEVE IN ONE GOD & HOLY TRINITY ✝️
Why do we need extra biblical sources or someone or something other than the bible to understand the Trinity?...it should be revealed clear in sctipture....it's not someone trying to extrapolate something in scripture that's supposed to be clear as day.
@@javierdelgado1554 Where in the bible does it say that everything in it will be obvious and clear for everyone? If anything it says the opposite, that there are difficult things in it that some twist to their own destruction (2 Peter 3:15-16)
@@aaronmueller5802 what's hard to understand about Deuteronomy 6:4?...this gentleman is suggesting a book in order to get "a better understanding" on the nature of God?..God doesn't need our help in explaining who he is.
God isn't weak, dependent or ignorant as Jesus was, also God doesn't need to pray to God and beg him for help like Jesus did.
Don't worship a brown middle-eastern man that never asked to be worshipped or EVER said "I am God"
Father is the architect, Son is the carpenter, Spirit is the hammer
Close but this reduces/devalues the Spirit.
Whos the contractor ? 😄
TRINITY EXPLAINED:-
JESUS CHRIST IS TRUE GOD ✝️❤️
Contradiction is "A" and Not "A" at same time. Eg: "Three beings in one being!" Or "Three persons in one person!" is Contradiction. But, Christians (Catholic) beleive that "Three persons in one being (One God)!". It's not Contradiction 💯👍
So that, 1 God = 3 Persons & 3 Persons are God ✝️
In this world, 1 being = 1 Person. But in the case of God, 1 being = 3 persons🔥🔥🔥
On the human level one person is one being, and any two persons are two beings. But, God is another dimension. DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF GOD & HIS TRUTHS. AMEN 🙏
🌹"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "Before Abraham was born, I AM" - JOHN 8:58
🌹In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth - GENESIS 1:1
🌹In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God - JOHN 1:1
🌹The word became a flesh & lived here with us - JOHN 1:14
I BELIEVE IN ONE GOD & HOLY TRINITY ✝️.
Does Trinity an Excuse For Idolatry?
• Trinitarian - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit
• Babylonian - Nimrod, Simeramus, and Tammuz
• Ancient Egypt - Osiris, Isis, and Horus
• Ancient Meccans - Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat
• Greek mythology - Zeus, Poseidon, and Adonis
• Ancient Roman - Jupiter, Juno, and Minerva
• Hinduism - Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva
• Human sacrifice ( Jesus's crucifixion) is paganistic
• You shall have no other gods before me ( God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit )
• You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything
• You shall not bow down to them or worship them;
7 Pagans Festival
• Christmas. ( Sol Invictus, the Unconquered Sun )
• New Year's Day. ( Roman god; Janus )
• Easter. ( goddess Eostre )
• The Roman version of Halloween. ( memory of the Dead )
• May 1st - Labor Day. ( goddess Maia )
• Epiphany or Three Kings Day. ( goddess Diana )
• Saint John's Eve. ( goddess Fortuna )
@@efootballmaniaNo because those are other Gods
This makes perfect sense! Let me add; our understanding is limited to what we know as humans. How would any of you be able to explain that God always was? We can say it, but our minds don't really comprehend this, because humans only know a beginning & an end. That's where faith comes in.
Did not understand a word of what this was saying as if I have forgot what the question was❔
Lol
If you want to understand the Trinity go to the Lord's Day Ministry. God gave me a revelation that perfectly explains it.
I mean.. I think that's basically how I first came to know about the trinity. But when I try to think about it more and try to intellectualize it, I start drawing up analogies, like the ones made in the first half of the video. Then get told that my analogies are an example of modalism and not the trinity. So I just get confused to no end.
simple explanation for you is. Imagine trinity like a family. father, son, and sister. all three share one blood, the blood in the Father, son, sister is what we refer to as God. meaning Jesus has the nature of God, but hes not the Father and is not the spirit. again, if you imagine it like a family one blood, its easier to understand.
Hi Guts, No matter how they explain it, the Trinity is not biblical. Consider the following. To believe that Jesus is God is to disregard the bible as a whole. It is not surprising that Cardinal Hosius is quoted as having said: “We believe the doctrine of a triune God, because we have received it by tradition, though not mentioned at all in Scripture.” (Conf. Cathol. Fidei, Chap. XXVI). Another persons are just as frank about declaring the trinity to be of pagan origin is Arthur Weigall, in his book The Paganism in Our Christianity, states: “Jesus Christ never mentioned such a phenomenon, and nowhere in the New Testament does the word ‘Trinity’ appear.”
Even the Pope recently has been quoted as saying that Jesus is not God. I have included the links to prove this.
th-cam.com/video/jVz8CGkRieo/w-d-xo.html . Note the following link which the Vatican did not deny these claims. th-cam.com/video/etmDA1zNPyE/w-d-xo.html .
John 17:3 encourages us “And this is the way to have eternal life-to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth”. 1 John 2:3 reiterates this importance by stating “And we can be sure that we know him if we obey his commandments”. 1John:6 gives us this warning about our worship to God: “So we are lying if we say we have fellowship with God but go on living in spiritual darkness; we are not practicing the truth. - New Living Translation. So consider the following.
Another blatant scriptural fact that Christendom ignores and does not teach is, that unlike God whose name is Jehovah, Jesus is God’s first creation, and had a beginning (which is correct when John 1:1 reads that in the beginning the word was with God… Since God has no beginning, this isn’t talking about God, but Jesus) which is clearly the main reason he is not God. - This is what Colossians 1:15 says about Jesus: “The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation” - New International Version. This is why Jesus is described as God’s only begotten or first born son. It not only says that Jesus was God’s first creation in Colossians 1:15 but in 8 other verses in the bible also. Please read also Revelation 3:14, Psalms 89:27, Proverbs 8:22, 27 to 30, Hebrews 1:5&6, Romans 1:7, Matthew 3:16&17 & John17:3 & 8, Psalms 89:27 to confirm this for yourself. Can you categorically deny that these scriptures say that Jesus was God’s first creation?
Nowhere in the bible does God Jehovah, Jesus, or the Apostles say that Jesus is God. In fact the opposite is true and factual since Jehovah God himself states that he is alone God. Psalms 83:18 which reads “That men may know that you, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, are the most high over all the earth” - American King James Version.
Isiah 42:8 says “I am Jehovah, that is my name; and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise unto graven images” American Standard Version. Also confirmed in Exodus 34:14 says “For thou shalt worship no other God; for Jehovah -- Jealous is his name -- is a jealous God;” - Darby Bible Translation.
Jesus himself stated that he is not God. In fact many times he said he was not God. John 20:17 reads “Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God” New King James Version.
At Mark 15:34 it also reads “And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?” which is translated, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” New King James Version. Jesus knew that he was not God, because he instructed that worship should be directed to his Father Jehovah and not to him.
Mark 10:18 states “"Why do you call me good?" Jesus asked him. "Nobody is good except for one-God. - International Standard Version.
The apostles also confirms this for us. What is interesting is that everything written about Jesus after John was completed after his return to heaven. So 1Corinthians 11:3 also confirms that Jesus was not God in heaven also since it reads: “But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God” New King James Version.
Please also note, Philippians 2:6 states “Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;” - New International Version. This is confirmed by Jesus himself many times, but note what he says towards the end of his life on Earth, at John 14:28 : “You have heard Me say to you, ‘I am going away and coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, ‘I am going to the Father,’ for My Father is greater than I”. - New King James Version.
The bible is very clear on this point. Jehovah is God, and Jesus is his first creation which he calls his first born. 1John 4:9 & 10 states: “In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.” - New King James Version.
Does it state there or anywhere else in the bible that he sent himself or God sent any part of himself to the earth? No. There are other scriptures that also confirms that Jesus is not God but his first born or his creation. John 3:16 states: “For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.” - New Living Translation. John 3:18 continues “Anyone who believes in him is not condemned, but anyone who does not believe is already condemned, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God.” - Christian Standard Bible.
No scripture exists to confirm definitively that Jesus is God. Jesus himself never says that he is God, and the apostles and disciples never wrote that he was God. Note what 2Corinthians 1:3 says: “All praise to God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. God is our merciful Father and the source of all comfort”. - New Living Translation. 1 Corinthians 10:20&21 tells us to stay away from pagan teachings “lest we want to be sharers with the demons”.
The origin of the Trinity can be dated back to early Egyptians and Babylonians. It was only incorporated into Christianity after the 3rd Century by pagan Christians. Colossians 2:8 warns us then: “See to it, then, that no one enslaves you by means of the worthless deceit of human wisdom, which comes from the teachings handed down by human beings and from the ruling spirits of the universe, and not from Christ”. - Good News Translation.
Unfortunately, not only is the teaching that Jesus is God, but Christendom as a whole has whole heartedly embraced other pagan false teachings into the bible, such as the Cross, Christmas, Easter, Hell, Saint Worship, none of which the first century or the Christians of the bible believed, taught or followed.
If you want to worship the one and only true God acceptably, find a Church which has rejected all these pagan teachings. First benefit is as stated in John 8:32 - You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. Did you notice that the first step is to know the truth. And the first main truth that Jesus taught was that when we pray, we should first pray for the sanctification of God’s name against Satan’s lies.
Jesus said all praise should go to his God and Father as he instructed in the Lord’s Prayer before we pray for anything the first thing we should pray for is as found in Matthew 6:9: “You should pray like this: Our Father in heaven, help us to honor your name”. - Contemporary English Version. Note, Jesus was confirming what the scriptures say, that his God, and their God is the same, That his father in Heaven and their father in heaven is one in the same also because Jesus confirmed for us in his own words in this scripture “Our father in heaven”.
This is the bad side of not knowing or wanting to know the truth about God and his son Jesus. Those that continue to believe that Jesus is God, and not God’s first creation and first born son as written in the bible and mentioned above can also be likened to Cardinal Hosius was quoted in the outset having said: “We believe the doctrine of a triune God, because we have received it by tradition, though not mentioned at all in Scripture.” (Conf. Cathol. Fidei, Chap. XXVI), however, note what Jesus says about those who incorporate false and pagan traditions into true worship as found in Mark 7:6-9: “Jesus replied: You are nothing but show-offs! The prophet Isaiah was right when he wrote that God had said, "All of you praise me with your words, but you never really think about me. It is useless for you to worship me, when you teach rules made up by humans. You disobey God's commands in order to obey what humans have taught. You are good at rejecting God's commands so that you can follow your own teachings!” - Contemporary English Version.
Mark 7:13 highlights the folly of worship taught from man and not God. Jesus said “You are destroying the word of God through your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many other things like that." - International Standard Version. Find the truth and absolute truth about God, Jesus and his other teachings. This will mean everlasting life as stated in John 3:16 “For God loved the world in this way: so much that he would give up his Son, The Only One, so that everyone who trusts in him shall not be lost, but he shall have eternal life”. - Aramaic Bible in Plain English.
WHAT a JOKE! Father, son, and sister are three separate beings or person. That goes along with the trinity, you have three different gods.
@@robertmyers6865 You were half right in your second sentence.. They're 3 separate persons, but one being.
Just like how you have a President, Vice President, and Secretary of Defense.. 3 different persons, but one government entity.
God: Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit = 3 persons, one God.
TRINITY EXPLAINED:-
JESUS CHRIST IS TRUE GOD ✝️❤️
Contradiction is "A" and Not "A" at same time. Eg: "Three beings in one being!" Or "Three persons in one person!" is Contradiction. But, Christians (Catholic) beleive that "Three persons in one being (One God)!". It's not Contradiction 💯👍
So that, 1 God = 3 Persons & 3 Persons are God ✝️
In this world, 1 being = 1 Person. But in the case of God, 1 being = 3 persons🔥🔥🔥
On the human level one person is one being, and any two persons are two beings. But, God is another dimension. DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF GOD & HIS TRUTHS. AMEN 🙏
🌹"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "Before Abraham was born, I AM" - JOHN 8:58
🌹In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth - GENESIS 1:1
🌹In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God - JOHN 1:1
🌹The word became a flesh & lived here with us - JOHN 1:14
I BELIEVE IN ONE GOD & HOLY TRINITY ✝️
I recently heard from some people that the commanded of Jesus about baptising in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit was added later in the 4th century, but that the apostles baptised in the name of Jesus. What would you say to this?
The simplest way to understand the trinity is by explaining that Philo of Alexandria was the first to teach a trinity. It was adopted by the catholic fathers, made law by Rome, received by the Reformers. From there it has spread to many church denominations.
Quite true. But it has no basis in the bible.
@@tongakhan230
If you mean that the Trinity has no basis in the bible, then I agree with you.
@@approvedofGod Mathew 28:19-20
@@uccppanabo7516
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus
Muslim: is Jesus the son of Mary,
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Who created Mary?
Christian: God,
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus
Muslim:Jesus is the begotten son
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Who is his father?
Christian: God.
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus.
Muslim Jesus is a servant of God
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Jesus died on the cross?
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Is Jesus a messenger.
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Who sent him?
Christian: God.
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus.
Muslim: Did Jesus worship while on earth
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Whom did he worship?
Christian: God.
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus.
Muslim: Did God have a beginning
Christian: No
Muslim: Then who was born on 25/DEC?
Christian: Jesus.
Muslim: Is Jesus God.
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Where's God?
Christian: In heaven,
Muslim: How many Gods are there in heaven?
Christian: Only one God.
Muslim: Where's Jesus?
Christian: He is seated on the right hand of his father.
Muslim: Then how many are they in heaven?
Christian: Only one God.
Muslim: Then how many seats?
Christian: one
Muslim: where's Jesus?
Christian: Seated next to God.
Muslim: How are they seated on one chair?
Christian: Its only understood by those with the Ghost. You need Ghost my friend.
@@approvedofGod Are you a Muslim? Are you a Christian? What denomination?
“Each of the three Persons in the blessed Trinity is concerned with our salvation: With the Father it is predestination; with the Son propitiation; with the Spirit regeneration. The Father chose us; the Son died for us; the Spirit quickens us. The Father was concerned about us; the Son shed His blood for us; the Spirit performs His work within us. What the One did was eternal, what the Other did was external, what the Spirit does is internal.”
-A.W. Pink
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@J M....thus why Christ is the 2nd in the Trinity. The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. All working for our salvation. But don't get lazy. For you must be a workman for Christ.
@J M....Jesus of Nazareth is of the same substance as the Father, equal to Him in deity (Ath. Cr. 31, 33). Christ is not a lesser God. When the second person of the Godhead became a man, God didn’t compromise Himself and change into something lesser than He was. Christ is “the image of the invisible God” (Col. 1:15). “In him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily” (Col. 2:9). He is the “brightness of [God’s] glory and the express image of his person” (Heb. 1:3).
God reveals Himself as a triune being: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. “The whole three persons are co-eternal, and co-equal” (Ath. Cr. 26). In the incarnation, Christ did not shed His glory as a snake sheds its skin; He veiled His glory in humanity. Those who see Jesus see God (John 14:9).
@J MJesus isn’t almost like us. He didn’t come as close to experiencing full humanity as God could come without going all the way. He had a real body and soul (Ath. Cr. 32) because He was really human. Jesus’ conception was extraordinary (Matt. 1:20); the rest of His development as a man was mundanely human. The Bible describes His birth in very typical fashion. “When the fullness of time had come God sent forth His son, born of a woman” (Gal. 4:4). He was nourished from Mary’s body. He matured through the same phases as others. He was subject to pain, pleasure, hunger, thirst, fatigue, disappointment, suffering, and death. He thought, reasoned, and felt as a man. The Bible puts it plainly: “In all things He had to be made like His brethren” (Heb. 2:17) because only as a real man could Christ be “in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin” (Heb. 4:15).
@J M The relation of Christ’s natures to His person is mysterious, but it is important. If we fail to recognize the unity of Christ’s person, we might see Him as divine with some human characteristics or as human with some divine characteristics or as a confused combination of the two. Jesus is one Christ with both a human nature and a divine nature, and these natures do not bleed together. In Christ, God added to Himself our humanity, while continuing to be God.
The point of the Trinity is not to question the single essence of God, but rather to comprehend the energies of God, or how a single God, who's outside the created world, manifests himself in the created world, so the Hypostasis are the eternal manifestations of God, or more precisely the Spirit of God/Parakletos stands for God's relation with anything in the created world, the Word of God/Logos stands for God's actions in the created world, while the Pater is not exactly a manifestation, but rather the source of both Hypostasis, outside the created world.
The closest physical comparison that has occurred to me to describe the Trinity are 3 lit matchsticks creating 1 flame; each its own separate matchstick but creating one indistinguishable flame
I prefer God presents Himself in His 3 'works' that human's brain can recognize. Limiting our brain to understand it whether by reducing or rejecting His way of works is a mistake. Instead recognize, accept and understand it as it is like a child because The Bible is filled with His wisdom.
If human's brain is able to understand His presence as a whole then he is not THE God.
Understand that we don't see His true presence yet He humbled Himself to teach His perfect standard again so we are able to know Him as Savior, as Prophet, as Father, as Son Of God, as Holy Spirit, as Son Of David, as Almighty, as The First and The Last, who is and who was and who is to come, as a friend, as a teacher etc.
He is what He is.
Genesis 1:1-3
John 1:1-3
Isaiah 45:21
Declare what is to be, present it-
let them take counsel together.
Who foretold this long ago,
who declared it from the distant past?
Was it not I, the LORD?
And there is no God apart from Me,
a righteous God and a Savior;
there is none but Me.
Jose, the problem with that analogy is that those 3 sticks are exactly the same in function. God is different from Jesus. Jesus got send by the father and says the father is greater then I. And I do not know of the hour, only the father does. If 1 is greater or better then the other. It can not possibly be 1.
Chevy chelios, so do you think that if God is 1,we understand what He is? We still have no clue of what He is or even how it's possible that He is outside of time or does not even have a beginning. Trust me there is alot of mystery without that trinity concept.
@@O_tropos agreed, there is no perfect comparison yet this serves to show how 3 individual identities can exist in creating 1 essence - Father, Son and Holy Spirit as One essence.
@@O_tropos th-cam.com/video/CCkpKly65rA/w-d-xo.html
How about explaining the origin of the Trinity? Where did it come from? When in history, was it first mentioned?
The FATHER is the Mind son is the body and soul is the Holy spirit
The FATHER is the Mind son is the body and soul is the Holy spirit
@@febindavis6616
You just took out the "Persons" from the trinity! You made the trinity into parts.
@@approvedofGod no at all bible never said trinity
@@febindavis6616
I don't believe in the trinity either!
“To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.” (Isaiah 8:20) When a man and woman marry they become one… “Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.” (Genesis 2:24) This does not now mean that they are both one person, but rather that they are united as one. Christ states plainly that He and His Father are one, meaning united in purpose like man and wife, which is an analogy of Christ and His Church. Christ whilst on Earth, praying to His Father (Two beings) explained this point… “That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:” (John 17:21-22) Therefore, the Father and Son are one, even as the disciples were to be one. Does this now make the disciples one being? No, that’s folly. It means united in purpose. When Christ sent the Holy Spirit He called Him a He, for the Holy Spirit was to come as His ambassador to teach us the truth. Why? Because when God the Son entered into a human body, He lost His ability to be omnipresent. Christ is our High Priest interceding for us on our behalf and cannot leave the sanctuary until that work is complete. For this reason He sent the Holy Spirit on His behalf to teach us the truth. Therefore, you have three persons that make up God, all united in one purpose…“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:” (Matthew 28:19) This is the Godhead, not the trinity which is a false pagan counterfeit of the true. Use your Bible, not your own mind which is evil… “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” (Jeremiah 17:9) God bless
The trinity is a human idea
If we are connect the trinity to the gospel, why is it not connected to John's revelation ???
It's just a lie
Revelation 4 where it gives us the clear picture what is in heaven and how the positions look like did not on the throne didn't show us anything trinitarian
@@abgoodman7490 The doctrine of the Trinity is all over the book of John's Revelation..
here's one example,
Revelation 1:4-6
"To the seven churches in the province of Asia:
Grace and peace to you from Him (God the Father) who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits [the sevenfold Spirit (the Holy Spirit)] before His throne, and from Jesus Christ (the Son), who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.
To Him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood (the Son), and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve His God and Father (the Father) -to Him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen."
Thank you
Fred Sanders
God bless you and your family forever and ever 🙏 ❤️
Why would I ever want to understand the Trinity? Even if there is a simple way to do that, why should I have any interest in understanding the Trinity? What would be the point?
The simplest way to understand God is to begin learning from the Bible. It's all about him and his Son Jesus Christ, and walking by the Spirit of God in obedience and finding that life that Jesus came to give us, having delivered us out of darkness by his life given to us, even unto the death of the cross.
I was just listening to John MacArthur talking about some 25 million Pentecostals that he calls Oneness Pentecostals and the danger of that doctrine such that if one believes that they could not be saved. At least I think that's what he was saying, but what does the Bible say? It says believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved. It says if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus Christ and believe in your heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. If 25 million Pentecostals do that, then 25 million of them can be saved, even from Oneness doctrines or whatever it is. Yes, God has given us that much power, power over all the works of the enemy.
Do you find that kind of power in the Trinity doctrine? Can that save a man? Well, God will be the judge about that one, won't he? I've heard testimony of people who were shown hell, who visited hell, and some of them talk about seeing Christians there. How did they get there? Where did they go wrong? There are lots of ways to go wrong, I suppose, but believing in Christ isn't one of them. You never go wrong when you believe in Christ, when you truly do that as God commands. He's the only one that can get a man into heaven, that is, nobody can get into heaven without him.
The title of this video is totally miss leading and wrong, made me even more confused like an Aljebra in mathematics.
If you want to understand the Trinity go to The Lord's Day Ministry. God gave me a revelation that perfectly explains it.
Book of acts chapter 7 verse 55-56
Matthew chapter 3 verse 16 -17
There is a Trinity a GOD Head.
HOLY HOLY HOLY Lord GOD Almighty.,.,,
I have to be honestly. I confess, no matter how hard I try to the Trinity makes literally no logical sense to me.
Melody Making Melodies.: Not all religious beliefs are based on logic. Using logic you can't even explain why one sabbath day a week is better than two sabbath days. You observe one sabbath because that's what your scripture prescribes. You believe in Trinity because of what has been revealed in the Scripture.
Having said that I will tell you why human logic does not help you understand Trinity according to which one infinite God manifests Himself in 3 infinite divine forms. So logically you may be asking can one infinite divine power be resolved into 3 infinite divine powers? Mathematically,
is infinity = infinity + infinity + infinity? The answer is YES which you may verify with any student of Calculus. But this equation cannot be proved logically because infinity defies logic. You can't even do the addition ( 1/0) + ( 1/0) + (1/0) on your calculator because each number 1/0 is infinite in magnitude and it defies the algebra logic. However , the equation infinity + infinity + infinity = infinity is intuitively true. in the sense if you assume it to be true you always land correct result
You must also remember if a certain concept does not make logical sense to you that does not necessarily mean the concept is wrong. Only about a dozen scientists with IQ greater than 160 can understand Einstein's Theory of Relativity. Average people like you and I cannot understand it. Can we say then the Theory of Relativity is false? I being a mathematician I do understand the intuitive idea that one infinity can be resolved into three infinities and so one infinite divine power can manifest Himself in three infinite divine forms. You may not understand it due to lack of basic knowledge of Calculus. So you may certainly say Trinity doesn't make sense to you and I respect your opinion. But you ought not say Trinity is false.
Here is a simple analogy. If one God can manifest Himself as Yahweh in Jerusalem, as Abba Father in Rome and as Allah in Mecca then it is certainly possible for one God to manifest Himself as Father, Son and Holy Spirit any place, any time.
John Pereira
My friend, can you give me one example of the Trinity teaching in the Bible?
@@paeng46I guess you meant to ask if there are verses that support the doctrine of Trinity . After one realizes it is mathematically and theologically plausible for one infinite divine power to manifest Himself in 3 infinite divine forms the obvious next question is whether or not there is reference to it in the Scripture. Here are a few. that support the doctrine of Trinity: Isiah 48:16, 1 John 5:7, Mat 28:19,
Lk 3: 21-22, Acts 2:33-34.and 2Cor 13:14. A Bible scholar might be able to give you many more. I am just a layman.
John Pereira
Thank you. I believe in them.
@@thetruthuntold9642 : If Yahweh, Abba Father and Allah are not the same God as you say, then they are many Gods. Your thinking is that of a pagan polytheist.
Islamic preachers like Shabir Ally, Mufti Menk, Omar Suleiman, Reza Aslam, etc. say they are one and the same God, the God of Abraham.
Better yet: A rope is composed of three strands. If one unravels it a little, one will see the three strands that remain a single rope composed of three strands. The three strands are similar, but not the same, they are individual strands forming a rope. They are one in nature, character and objective.
Why the God have to send Son and the holy spirit?
Why Abraham Noah Moses didn't mention the Trinity in the old testament?
I'm confused
Check Sam shamon. He explains trinity
Johnny Truth: There is vast difference between a dog and man. A dog is not equipped to fully understand his master.. There is also a vast difference between human man and a divine spirit. Man with finite brain is not equipped to fully understand an infinite divine spirit. So we humans can only know WHAT God has done or revealed but not WHY he has done. The Scripture too says, " Unsearchable are the ways of the Lord" ( Rom 11:33). So we may never know WHY God had to send His son and the Holy Spirit.
Having said that we may hazard a guess sometimes based on what has been revealed in the Scripture. I need to explain to you Jewish history. I will be brief. Around 4000 BC during Abraham's time human sacrifice was common practice. God tested Abraham by asking him to sacrifice his son Isaac but when He was convinced of his faith he asked him to offer a ram. There after the descendants of Abraham took a cue from it and would only offer animal sacrifice,
Around 1500 BC the Jews returned from Egypt and spent about 40 years in the wilderness around Mount Sinai. Moses gave them many laws to live by and many religious rituals including animal sacrifices,. One of the sacrifices was " sin offering" in the form of a burnt offering of a ram to ATONE FOR SIN. This animal sacrifice also weaned Jews away from other tribes such as Amorites, Hivites, Perizzites, etc. who were still practicing human sacrifice. The Book of Leviticus has dozens of verse wherein Yahweh suggests He loves the aroma of burnt offering .In Book of Numbers Ch 28, Vs 2 He even reminds the Jews to offer their sacrifices on time.
By 1000 BC the Jews had conquered Canaan and had driven out all the hostile tribes, There was no more human sacrifice. But the Jews were offering animal sacrifice which had outlived its utility. Around 700 BC God tells through prophet Isiah ( 1:11 ) and prophet Hosea ( 6:6)that He desires no more animal sacrifice. But Jews still continued with the practice rendering the holy temple into a virtual slaughter house. So God sent Son, who became man, called Himself Lamb of God and offered His death on the cross as the culminating sacrifice to atone for sins. He sent Holy Spirit after Jesus' ascension to be with His apostles .
As to why Abraham, Noah and Moses didn't mention Trinity. God's revelation did not come in one large package but in small packs to serve a certain given time. With Abraham , Noah and Moses, God was more concerned with His covenant of giving a promised land to the children of Israel. By 1000 BC the children of Israel had established themselves in the promised land. Around 700 BC God through Isai ah 48 :16 revealed the first glimpse of Trinity: "And now the Lord God and His Spirit have sent Me ( the Messiah)."
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Listen to Him and see Trinity is revealed in old testament. Dont lean on your own understanding.
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Listen to Him and see Trinity is revealed in old testament. Dont lean on your own understanding.
@@johnpereira9755 sir you've just tell me here 1000 and one Arabian Nights style story and I'm afraid you've explain nothing about my question I sensed you have no answer for that question of mine let me ask you easier one Sir,
Jesus Christ is son of God and he's the second person of the trinity alright and he is God and he's the God in flesh ok.
So can you please tell me when is Jesus become a God?
Thanks
The trinity makes so much sense because:
Whenever God wants to do something with his almighty he first wills it, then he does it. That’s how God always works, first willing something and then doing it.
For example: How does God make it that he is eternal. He does the following.
First God wills to be eternal and then he uses the power to realize this will.
so the commandment that God gave himself to be eternal has always existed, he never created it, it has always been there. He can’t just create the commandment to be eternal. Also, the power of God which implements this commandment that he is eternal has always existed, he never created it. He can’t just create the power that makes him eternal
So these things have always existed:
God, the word of God (Jesus) and the power of God that implements the word of God (Holy Spirit)
Only God is eternal because to be eternal you have to be omnipotent , that is why the word of God and the power of God that implements his word (Holy Spirit) are God.
That’s why the the Bible makes soooo much sense when it says
In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God.
It makes soooo much sense why there HAS TO BE three persons that are one God, and not only one person.
If there is an omnipotent being it has to be always triunion otherwise it can’t exist
No it doesnt makes sense why it needs 3 lol. One omnipotent God is enough. 😂
@@TMNmedia
I also said there is only one omnipotent God. But unlike you, I have a brain and understand that for God to be eternal, his wish to be eternal and his power to realize this wish are also eternal, thus they are also God, since only God the Creator is eternal, nothing else
It’s still one and the same God because 2 of 3 always belong to the third because the third is God
Simple
That’s why each of the three can say
I can do whatever I want with MY other two
The Bible describes perfectly what an omnipotent God must be like because it is written by it lol
@@Key-ps2iy whatever mumbo jimbo u said its not what anyone called simple mate. Give me verses in the bible about trinity the concept in ur bibles ? Should we worship the three equally ?
@@TMNmedia
It’s simple. But you are just stupid. That’s a difference. You act like some student who keeps getting bad grades and has absolutely no idea what the student is saying who always gets the best grades
Let’s do it again
God can do whatever he wants to do. That’s the definition of God
That means he wants stuff and then realizes that stuff-> that’s omnipotence-> to bring your every wish into existence
Simple
So God can do whatever he wants to do. He wants to be eternal and thus he is eternal. To be eternal though this wish to be eternal and this power realizing it have to be eternal too, he can’t create both, both have to exist always so that God is eternal
Simple
In this world only the creator is eternal, the whole creation has a beginning and isn’t eternal
That’s why the entirety of God’s wishes (Jesus) and the power realizing these wishes (Holy Spirit) are God too
Simple
Each of the three is only one God because the other two belong to him
That means each of the three is the same God with the same wish and the same power that does what he wants
That’s why each of the three is the same and only 1 God
Simple
That’s why the Bible says this:
„In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.“
John 1:1 KJV
It says God and his word/ wish is eternal and that’s why the word/wish (which is Jesus by the way) is also God because only God is eternal. It makes perfect sense
So don’t act like a stupid animal and think for one second why ONE omnipotent God has to have three persons and can’t have one
Can we take a moment to appreciate real life Ned Flanders?
The reason why people can’t comprehend it is because they haven’t been born again of the spirit . Repent from your sins, Ask god to renew you mind and hearth and guide you in the right way . Will be life changing ✝️
The reason why people can't comprehend it is because its a doctrine of devils. It is not Biblical. Show me the word "Trinity" anywhere in the Bible. It's not there. This doctrine was created centuries after Jesus.
@@arthurh4484 the word trinity isn’t in the bible but the meaning of it it is . The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.”
- 2 Corinthians 13:14
@@arthurh4484 From the beginning of creation in Genesis to the end of times in Revelation, God refers to Himself as "us" or "our" and thus describes the doctrine of the Trinity. The word trinity comes from "tri" meaning three and "unity" meaning one. God is three distinct individuals - God the Father, the Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit - in one true God. These Bible verses and Scriptures about the trinity will help you have a better understanding of who God is. It can be a difficult concept to grasp, yet we can believe God's word and know that while His ways are higher than ours, we can trust in Him!
@@DigitalStore33 It's dangerous business to add to God's word. Get thee hence.
@@DigitalStore33 "Us" means more than one. When he said "US", he was referring to the 3 of them.
I don't have much patience for Jesuits. You guys are trolling everywhere lately.
Get thee hence!
Muslim: who is God?
Christian (Trinitarian): Jesus
Muslim: is Jesus son of mary ?
Christian: Yes
Muslim: who created mary
Christian: God
Muslim: who is God?
Christian: Jesus
Muslim: Jesus is the begotten son
Christian: Yes
Muslim: who is his father?
Christian: God
Muslim: who is God?
Christian: Jesus
Muslim: Is Jesus is servant of God
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Jesus died on the cross
Christian: Yes
Muslim: who resurrected him ?
Christian: God
Muslim: is Jesus a messenger ?
Christian: Yes
Muslim: who sent him?
Christian: God
Muslim: who is God?
Christian: Jesus
Muslim: did Jesus worship while on earth?
Christian: Yes
Muslim: whom did he worship?
Christian: God
Muslim: who is God?
Christian: Jesus
Muslim: did God have beginning ?
Christian: no
Muslim: than who was born 25/Dec?
Christian: Jesus
Muslim: is Jesus God?
Christian: Yes
Muslim: where's God?
Christian: In heaven
Muslim: how many Gods are than in heaven?
Christian: only one God
Muslim: where's Jesus?
Christian: He is seated on right hand of his father.
Muslim: then how many are they in heaven?
Christian: only one God
Muslim: then how many seats ?
Christian: one
Muslim: where's Jesus?
Christian: seated next to God
Muslim: how are they seated on one chair?
Christian:- Actually trinity is a big HOAX
Khadim Mir Your talk cannot be Muslim/Christian, but it looks like the talk Muslim/Trinitarian, as Christians believe Jesus, who in Bible says, that Father is the only true God. John 17: 3. So you were lied to. Trinitarianism is not a Christian idea. You maybe find similar topics in Islam, which you would mark as non-Muslim. It;s sad that some people confuse others about what is Christianity as it's totally simple... the Father is the God, Jesus is the Son of God, the Savior.
@@pozorovatellidi This is exactly what I am trying to say, majority of the so called Christians are Trinitarians, I don't reject true Christianity, I only reject these kind of polytheistic beliefs. In spite of being a muslim, I humbly reject a lot of wrong practices by Muslims too but that doesn't mean I am putting all in the same basket.
Please don't be offended.
@@KHM95 Hi. I don't see any reason to be offended. As for a similar basket in Islam... I think I would put there preaching that Bible should be followed and at the same time preaching anti-biblical stuff as that Jesus is not Son of God, He wasn't risen from dead... what looks illogical similar way as this doctrine. Now you don't be offended :-)
@@pozorovatellidi I love whoever you are, because you are so humble in your approach.
Look, we have developed a culture in the muslim world, we don't reject any religion but the interpretations, we reject our own great scholars if proved otherwise, blind following of a person lets you to suppress your own intellect, and that's a very bad thing.
Again with sincerity I don't want to preach anyone anti-biblical teachings, but I may interpret it differently. Who said we preach people that Jesus is not the son of God, but that's not the case, we actually say Jesus is not the biological or literal son of God bur rather it's metaphorical, and some of the christians also have the same belief.
I found you a very interesting person to talk to, it would be my pleasure if you email me
khadymmyrr@gmail.com
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@@KHM95 Yes, as you said you believe in this stuff. I follow David Woods videos occasionally so I know a little bit about Islam. He is a trinitarian, so I don't accept blindly everything he says. But in general I think he has it pretty covered by Muslim sources.
By the way thank you for your offer. I feel a little bit bad to decline it now as I'm a little bit busy... a job, studies, renting... and changes in all of these... so this "lot of fun" prevents me to spend extra time contacting new people now and it would be rude not to answer for longer time. Maybe I'd use it later if the offer is still available.
The apple analogy is the heresy of partialism, and the water analogy is the heresy of modalism.
It would make sense to try and explain what the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit actually are; and how they differ and relate to each other logically as personas. I understand what the Son it but I’m not clear how the Holy Spirit differs from the father unless it is simply an attribute of the father at work in the world. Also, how does one explain the moment in the bible when Jesus cries out “father, why hast thou forsaken me”. What is actually happening hear psychologically in terms of Jesus thought process? Was he unaware that he was the Father?
Wow I never thought of that was in the bible
Jesus is not the Father. The Father is not the Spirit. The doctrine of the Trinity are three distinct Persons of one divine essence and unity.
@@doctor1alex So a single consciousness with 3 personalities?
@@LS-xs7sg Not three personalities, three Persons. The Nicene creed and Athanasian Creed set this out so please read those.
@@doctor1alex Do a single consciousness working through three different "mediums" i.e. God, the human flesh and the spirit?
How you explain when Jesus (peace upon on him) said in your bible, that my father is greater/better (I really don't remember the exact word, but it's similar)than me, how can a person can be better than himself??!!
Jesus said "The father is greater than I" and its because Jesus was limited by the human body so he wasnt as great as the father who is in heaven and who had no limits at that time. Core-wise they're both coequal,neither is greater than the other
@@theburninglegion5189
With all respect brother, my mother language is not English, so in your reply you said "they're", I think this used only for 2 or more persons.
Also, when you find someone talking about himself be using I, then using He, I am very sure he is talking about someone else, not himself, SO Please don't put your words in Jesus's mouth, He was clear always when he is talking about God "his father", he always make space between himself and his father. I think this video is very good way to explain what I am trying to say, I hope you will find the path to the truth (th-cam.com/video/x3rvJJma3Sk/w-d-xo.html)
@@kingnour7428 can you reword that please:) because I did not understand anything after "Also".
And yes The Father and The Son(Jesus) are two different persons of the same God. The verse "For The Father is greater than I" is from the bible... I'm not making up stuff.
@@theburninglegion5189
Brother, again, my english language is poor, that why I put the link at the end, because I was not sure my thoughts will be clear.
Anyway, in your reply, I find myself confusing when you said: "For The Father is greater than I" is from the bible.." HOW can GOD be greater than him self, HOW can GOD be three persons in the same time??? Please check the: (th-cam.com/video/x3rvJJma3Sk/w-d-xo.html).
@@kingnour7428 NOUR NOUR it's okay friend. The link you sent me is extremely misleading confusing and wrong . Almost everything he said is wrong. God is not a person, God is a title given to an entity of a specific divine nature (an essence) we have 3 persons that have this essence: The Father, The Son(Jesus) and The Holy Spirit. All 3 persons are equal , they have the same properties and qualities but different roles. Jesus is not the actual child of The Father ( he gave birth to him) By son of God we mean that Jesus is from The father (God) and not from the earth like us humans. God ( all 3 persons) love humans and wanted to save us from sin so The Son came down to earth ( Jesus) and died for our salvation. Jesus said " The father is greater than I" because at that time Jesus was on earth , he had a human body which limited his abilities as God, but the Father had no human body at that time so there were no limits to his power. The father , the son and the holy spirit are all the same God all 3 have the same abilities power and all are fully God ( The same God) think of it as 3 in 1.
Copy this paragraph into Google translate and convert it to your mother language.
Please do not listen to that person in the video because almost everything he said is wrong.
I'm always here brother if you have any questions. God bless you.
If Jesus is God, then who was Jesus talking to? Can someone please explain? I still don't understand this. Thank you 🙏
GOD IS ONE !
TRINITY EXPLAINED:-
JESUS CHRIST IS TRUE GOD ✝️❤️
Contradiction is "A" and Not "A" at same time. Eg: "Three beings in one being!" Or "Three persons in one person!" is Contradiction. But, Christians (Catholic) beleive that "Three persons in one being (One God)!". It's not Contradiction 💯👍
So that, 1 God = 3 Persons & 3 Persons are God ✝️
In this world, 1 being = 1 Person. But in the case of God, 1 being = 3 persons🔥🔥🔥
On the human level one person is one being, and any two persons are two beings. But, God is another dimension. DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF GOD & HIS TRUTHS. AMEN 🙏
🌹"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "Before Abraham was born, I AM" - JOHN 8:58
🌹In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth - GENESIS 1:1
🌹In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God - JOHN 1:1
🌹The word became a flesh & lived here with us - JOHN 1:14
I BELIEVE IN ONE GOD & HOLY TRINITY ✝️
Who was Jesus praying to if there’s only one God ?
Jesus was praying to the Father. Jesus said he existed with the father before creation. he took on human form to live like us.
Your question is stupid to be honest😅
@@jonathanlalmuansanga5030 then answer the question
King Baby the reason I asked the question is to make clear the Trinity. The Bible says a few times Jesus was praying to the Father. Jesus called himself " I AM" which means he's God. So That’s why I asked the question.
@@leonotos Search Nabeel qureshi, he explained the best in my opinion...
If God the Father sent the Son and the Spirit, it seems that Subordinationism would make sense. Why was subordinationism declared a heresy?
You simplify too much and make TRINITY more confusing. Because you EXPLAIN NOTHING but only mention TRINITY , wuthout explaining. 😅
Nobody understands it and the way you know nobody understands it is because if you ask 100 trinitarians to explain it you'll get 100 different answers. It's of the father of confusion, clearly.
I really understand Sir... When you see Jesus ,you literally see God...
TRINITY EXPLAINED:-
JESUS CHRIST IS TRUE GOD ✝️❤️
Contradiction is "A" and Not "A" at same time. Eg: "Three beings in one being!" Or "Three persons in one person!" is Contradiction. But, Christians (Catholic) beleive that "Three persons in one being (One God)!". It's not Contradiction 💯👍
So that, 1 God = 3 Persons & 3 Persons are God ✝️
In this world, 1 being = 1 Person. But in the case of God, 1 being = 3 persons🔥🔥🔥
On the human level one person is one being, and any two persons are two beings. But, God is another dimension. DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF GOD & HIS TRUTHS. AMEN 🙏
🌹"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "Before Abraham was born, I AM" - JOHN 8:58
🌹In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth - GENESIS 1:1
🌹In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God - JOHN 1:1
🌹The word became a flesh & lived here with us - JOHN 1:14
I BELIEVE IN ONE GOD & HOLY TRINITY ✝️.
God isn't weak, dependent or ignorant as Jesus was, also God doesn't need to pray to God and beg him for help like Jesus did.
Don't worship a brown middle-eastern man that never asked to be worshipped or EVER said "I am God"
John 17:3 This is what has been done to a plain and precious truth in the holy Bible. Sola scriptural. If it isn't biblical, it isn't doctrinal.
Wait if the father sent the son and the father sent the spirit who sent the father?
Allah
@@SLVBULL stop with your bullshit trolling, Mohammed was a lunatic who went around massacring dogs and men, worshipping comet rocks and kissing them.
@@SLVBULL Delete this comment brother.
Why will one entity act as 3 "persons" to prove his existence? God should be someone who sends messengers to the world to deliver the message to us. It is someone whose information will be in the scriptures as quotes that are never changed. It is someone who will not come to the world to teach us since he is the most powerful and will only meet us after we go to heaven. We explored Christianity and Trinity now let's research and see if any other religion can address the concerns mentioned above. God has gifted us with brains that are unique to human beings so let's research other monotheistic religions by reading its authentic scriptures. How about researching "Islam" first by reading their only scripture "Quran"? Since it is just one book and never modified, it will be easier to finish it.
I pride myself as understanding the English language well. The bible has some parts very convincing. I believe Jesus Christ was sent to the location and he's mentioned as saying he was sent to the people of Israel.
Nevertheless, I believe Jesus Christ. I must worship the Father(God). That's what Jesus preached.
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John 20:
27Then Jesus said to Thomas, “Put your finger here and look at My hands. Reach out your hand and put it into My side. Stop doubting and believe.”
28Thomas replied, “My Lord and my God!”
29Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
@@joshua2400 The Almighty God is immortal! Right? When someone is immortal, they cannot die! Do you believe that Jesus died? Did Jesus need to be resurrected in order to live again? Who resurrected Jesus? Almighty God did, Acts 2:24! Imagine what Satan and the demons would have done if the Almighty God was dead for three days and three nights?! Jesus is the Son of Almighty God, not the Almighty God! Jesus call the Almighty his Father and his God! Does the Almighty calls anyone His Father or His God? Jesus prayed to His God, does the Almighty pray to anyone? Of course not! The Trinity doctrine is a pagan doctrine!
@@carolmueller3191 uhm my friend, Jesus physically died, not spiritually, Jesus came to earth to die a physical death, not to stop existing
you should read what scripture has to say about Jesus, as Isaiah calls Jesus God in Isaiah 9:6, John calls Jesus God in John: 1:1-3;1:14, Thomas calls Jesus God in John 20:28-29, and the reason the pharisees wanted Jesus dead was because He called Himself God
Conflating ILLOGICAL with PARADOX is the greatest sleight of doctrine that was ever carried out.
A PARADOX is a statement or proposition which, despite sound, logical reasoning from acceptable premises, leads to a conclusion that seems logically unacceptable .
An ILLOGICAL statement or argument is one where we do not observe the principles of logic and arrive at a senseless conclusion.
The Trinity is ILLOGICAL not a PARADOX.
He said “connect the trinity to the gospel as directly as possible” but doesn’t do it himself in this entire video. lol. This is very convoluted.
David Rodrigues: The Trinity has to be understood from 3 different angles.
First the theological plausibility. If God can manifest Himself as Yahweh to Jews , as Abba Father to Christians and as Allah to Muslims then it is plausible for God to manifest Himself as Father , Son and Holy Spirit .
Second the Mathematical plausibility. Any student of Calculus will tell you one infinite quantity can be resolved into 3 infinities. That is, infinity = infinity + infinity + infinity. So it is plausible for one infinite divine power to manifest Himself as 3 infinite divine powers- Father the Creator , Son the Redeemer and Holy Spirit the Sanctifier.
Third, the Scriptural basis. Verses such as Isiah 48:16, 1 John 5:7, Mat 28:19 , Luke 3: 21-22, Acts 2:33-34 . 2 Cor 13:14, etc. allude to Father, Son and Holy Spirit, albeit not explicitly in all. In Mat 16:18 Jesus authorized Peter and through him the Church to bind or loosen whatever it deemed fit. The Church has accepted the divine reality of Trinity as a doctrine in 325 AD at the Council of Nicea after deliberating on it for nearly 3 centuries. The gates of Hades and agents of Satan will not prevail against the Church no matter how vile their profanities .
In the name of Jesus i gave this message here is wisdom: The Holy Trinity explained: God the Father = Love, Son = Wisdom, The Holy Ghost = Power all are atributes of only one person Jesus Christ and that is why God is only one, humans are created as a trinity as well of body, soul and spirit.
People use analogies to show something because the bible has let them down.
Why won't people believe what the bible plainly states? Jesus is God's son. All God's intelligent creations are termed his sons.
@@tongakhan230 : Christians are not foolish to interpret the Bible literally. For example Jesus said if some one slaps you on one cheek show him the other. But Jesus Himself did not show the other cheek when a soldier slapped Him at the court of the High Priest. So keep your phony advice to yourself. We have well qualified theologians and Bible scholars to interpret the Gospels in the authentic way.
I explain the trinity in my video Father, Son, Holy Spirit explained by a revelation from God at The Lord's Day Ministry channel. I only use Scripture and an analogy from the Lord to explain it.
I’m starting to doubt my belief in the trinity
pls text me
Nothing wrong with that, I have too
@Mansoor Ahmad I am not a trinitarian. But I would rather be a trinitarian than a follower of Islam. Islam is debauchery, and filled with evil. They blaspheme our God and Lord with their teachings. Jesus warned of false prophets like Muhammad.
islam is a filthy religion that constantly gets debunked by people like Acts 17 Apologetics. Constantly debunked. muhammad said the sun sets in a muddy spring and the earth sit on a whales back and the stars are missiles. he slept with a 9 year old.
see u’re a liar. u guys use the same desperate argument, when it’s 3 Person, 1 GOD. ur god allah is satan or some moon god muhammad found in mecca that’s why u have the symbol of baal.
That was as about as safe and accurate as it gets without drifting off the ideological path into the field of inaccurate analogies
There is no trinity. Jesus said "only the father is good" making a clear distinction between him and God.
Jesus died. You can't be dead and resurrect yourself.
Jesus prayed to God, telling God "let your will be done"
This truth is undeniable
Bob Wellington: The Christian belief is that one God manifests or exists as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Son became man , was called Jesus and as man He said only Father is good, as man He prayed to the Father and as man He died on the cross. There are enough verses in the OT and NT alluding to Trinity. If there is no Trinity then there is no God. And if there is God then there is Trinity.
@@johnpereira9755 Jesus was dead for three days then resurrected. You can't resurrect yourself. God cannot die.
Jesus was asked by james and John's mother if they could sit at his right and left in heaven. Jesus said he did not have the authority to make that decision. If he were God he would've had the authority.
He also prayed to God and said 'let your will take place" If he were God he wouldn't have said that.
The Bible clearly shows that Jesus had a separate will, had lesser authority than God, was dead for 3 days and was resurrected. Clearly indicating that he is not God and that there is no trinity.
@@johnpereira9755
“God is only one.”-Galatians 3:20.
"To us there is but one God, the father" 1 Corinthians 8:6
“Father, if you want to, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, let, not my will, but yours take place.”
Luke 22:42
“You, whose name is Yaweh, you alone are the Most High over all the earth.”-Psalm 83:18.
“This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.”-John 17:3.
@@bobwellington7580 Don't you understand what I said.? I said Jesus died as man. Why do you keep repeating God does not die? Where and when did anybody say God dies?
I agree God is one. He exists or manifests Himself as Father, Son and Holy Spirit just as you can exist as father to your kids, son to your parents and husband to your wife. That doesn't make you 3 different men. The misunderstanding about Trinity is probably due to Churchmen trying to explain it using the term " person".
Here are a few verses that allude to Father the Creator, Son the Redeemer and Holy Spirit the Sanctifier: Isiah 42:1, Isiah 48:17-18, 1 John 5:7, Math 28:19,
Luke 3:21-22, Acts 2:33-34 and 2 Cor 13:14. None of these verses refer to Father or Son or Holy Spirit as " person".
@@bobwellington7580
Jesus did resurrect himself. Read John 10:18/ No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
Amazing... In 2019 we are still confused and thinking for trinity to make sense.
We are still thinking that why Jesus was only the king of Jews.
We are still thinking that was Jesus a God or son of Godod, equal to or more important than god.
We are still thinking whether infant Jesus was taken to Egypt or not?
We are still thinking that who among the 04 conanical Gospels are correct about geniology of Jesus?
We are still thinking about pornography in Bible whether it is from God or someone else amended it?
Do we need to believe in what Paul said/assumed?
ELOH ELOH LAMA SABACHTANI
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
RSV
Only-monos
God-theos
Monos theos
Monotheism
The Father
Jesus is the one the true God (the Father) sent!
Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
Jesus has a God!
Jesus died!
God can’t die!
God raised Jesus from the dead!
Mitchell C
Jesus does claim to be God.
Read John 8:58 and Exodus 3:13-14. Jesus uses the same words that God (who is Jesus) used earlier in Exodus.
Read John 10:30 where Jesus says “I and the Father are one”
Jesus claims and shows that He is God many more times
It is because of the very fact that Jesus made himself equal to God by claiming to be His son that the Israel leaders crucified Him.
Read John 5:18.
You also say that Jesus isn’t God because God can’t die. Well, Jesus didn’t die spiritually. And let’s not forget the fact that He resurrected.
I understand that this is a very difficult topic to understand. I pray that God bless you with knowledge about Him so that you may know what true God you are worshipping. . Really try to be open to anything God wants to communicate to you.
God bless
@@LolXd-rf8qr "why call me good? There is none good except the one true God"
Stupid Jesus is a man born of a woman, he was breast fed, cleaned when urinated and circumcized on 8th day.
Funny god with a circumcized penis??
Lol Xd
John 8:58
No Jesus does not use the same words from Ex 3
Jesus says “ego eimi”
Which means roughly “I am the man” “I am he”
The blind man who Jesus heals, some people aren’t sure it’s the guy that was blind but the blind man says “ego eimi”-I am the man!! Did the blind man claim to be God???????
John 9
9 Some said, “It is he”; others said, “No, but he is like him.” He said, “I am the man.”
“I am the man” = ego eimi
Did the blind man just claim to be God???
I believe in the Old Testament Greek it goes like this in Ex 3
I AM THAT I AM= ego eimi HO ON
Tell the I AM has sent you= tell them HO ON has sent you
Had Jesus said ‘before Abraham was born, HO ON’ that might be an argument but he didn’t
John 10
I and the Father are one
Jesus is not claim he is the Father
Trinitarians don’t claim that Jesus IS the Father
Jesus is one with the Father in purpose, working in concert, of the same mind/accord
Jesus prays for believers to be one with him and the Father, does that mean believers are God too??? If they are one with God and Jesus??? NO
John 17
21 that they may all be one; even as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 The glory which thou hast given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one,
Jesus died, God cannot die
1 Tim says God has immortality which in Greek is “deathlessness” God cannot experience death, it doesn’t matter how you define death God can’t do it
It seems weird that you say Jesus didn’t really die basically? If Jesus didn’t die, who died for the sins of man? A “human nature” died for sins? No
Jesus died
Romans says the Son of God died
Jesus in Revelation says ‘I was dead’
Where does the 3 in 1 was from? The bible didn't pay serious focus on that. Why does church claims it to be true? Sometimes I even hear people confuse in their prayer when calling out both to Jesus and God. However, Jesus himself teach us how to pray, which was not praying to him, but only in his name.
What is the first commandment ?
jesus said he has a God , so if he was God, how on earth can a God have a God ??
Jesus never did claim he was God , but the Pharisees and Scribes were the ones that made
this nefarious accusation in hopes of charging him with blasphemy. Although Jesus did
acknowledge in the same paragraph that He was the Christ ( Anointed and/or given a position
by God). Your correct that Almighty God cannot have a God.
@@geobla6600 i agree with you that jesus was the messiah , my point was that there are passages in the bible where jesus said he isnt God , i dont know why people still believe in him as a God
@@assameayoub6857 Jesus did make literally 100's of statements that infer that he wasn't God.
When a person (In this case Jesus) calls God His God and that he was sent by Him (Jesus God),
this shows that he was in subjection to Almighty God. In fact Jesus always referred to God as
as his Father and God and himself as his son and never as an equal . So by clearly stating who
and what you are as well your position in regards to someone ( God) , then you can accurately
attain who and what your not without saying it. The term God is used to describe false gods ,
angels , prophets , kings and rulers , Satan and Jesus , but not in the sense of Almighty God.
so what dou you believe jesus was ?
@@geobla6600 No.. Jesus never claimed he was God. But Christendom says that he is God!
I won’t raise my voice here as one who has absolute understanding about this issue. However, from my understanding, an attempt to define God as having 3 parts or Persons is nonsensical for one very basic reason. The scriptures NEVER says God is three persons. Instead it DOES SAY that the Spirit IS God. 2 Cor 3:16 & John 4:24 “GOD IS SPIRIT, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth. “ Not, “God is God and the Spirit.” The end. Any further discussion or argument to support a “triune” God only imparts abstract, theoretical assumption and speculation that may possibly be nothing more than heresy.
Yeah yeah yeah, just make sure you believe it or you'll go to hell!
Sincerely, the Pope
Trinity explained scientifically
th-cam.com/video/V1QPdY0XP6U/w-d-xo.html
Nice simply explained post. Thank you
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
RSV
Only-monos
God-theos
Monos theos
Monotheism
The Father
Jesus is the one the true God (the Father) sent!
Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
Jesus has a God!
Jesus died!
God can’t die!
God raised Jesus from the dead!
Yes, "God as having 3 parts or Persons is nonsensical ", that was simply INVENTED IN NICEA, is nonsensical and NOT SUPPORTED BY THE GOSPELS. However, the Son is God, the Father is God and the Spirit is God as easily explained in my video here th-cam.com/video/D1ZLuDfdbnE/w-d-xo.html
The only way to understand the concept of the trinity is to accept that it cannot be understood.
Wow, I respect how confident you talk, I really thought at first you might be able to explain it.
No one can explain the Trinity Doctrine, because it makes no sense! Three persons make up one god? It's LUNACY!
The Bible doesn't teach the Trinity ANYWHERE! The Trinity Doctrine is Heresy! Read Matthew 28:19. Jesus said, 'IN THE NAME OF', not in the Titles of! Think about it, folks, then read it, then get baptized the way Jesus commanded you to be! In the name of Jesus Christ (Acts 2:38) for the remission of sins!
The trinity teaching is heresy beware of wolves in sheeps clothing there is one father one son the holy spirit is there power not another person read your king james bible not the new versions
@Raj Singh so you're saying jesus is the father
@Raj Singhwhat about this?
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
1 John 5:7-8 KJV
@Raj Singh I'm just processing, learning the scriptures... What about a husband and wife becoming 1 flesh? How can two be one flesh?
Confused me even more lol 😂
If you want to understand the Trinity go to The Lord's Day Ministry. God gave me a revelation that perfectly explains it.
God concept in islam is very easy and simple
God is one . He has no partners . No son . Jesus is one of his messengers . He created him miraculously without father .
God concept in islam is very easy and simple
God is one . He has no partners . No son . Jesus is one of his messengers . He created him miraculously without father .
Trinitarian : 1+1+1=1
1×1×1=1
Unitarian : But, what if 2×1=2 ?
There are two Gods
Manny Manny> What has confused you about Trinity? I am here to dispel your confusion.
I think The Holy Spirit is the most confusing aspect of the trinity. Because what is the Father? He became flesh in Christ, but what is the Father if not spirit?
Father is the creator and the leader, The Son (Jesus) is the saviour, and the Holy Spirit is the giver of life. The also the "constructor" the Father commanded, and the Son created the World, and evrything in it. Because He [The Son] is the verb (John 1:1-5).
It is confusing and, actually, of our enemy & God's. To say that one of the three people of god is the savior is to say that there are two people of god who are NOT the Savior. That is Satan's very subtle & clever way of saying that God is not your savior. It's a dilution of truth rather than a denial of it but, when you think about it, look at how he did it in the garden, he didn't just come out & say God is a liar, he did it through subtlety and breaking their confidence encouraging them to trust in themselves just as religion encourages us to trust in doctrines of men - RATHER than the Simplicity that is in Christ alone. That being, that we have one God & Saviour & Father who is above all & through all & in us all. If that is not one person, then we have a deeply schizophrenic creator.
Book of acts chapter 7 verse 55-56
Matthew chapter 3 verse 16 -17
There is a Trinity a GOD Head.
HOLY HOLY HOLY Lord GOD Almighty.,,,,,,..,.,.
the 3 entities in God or the 3 persons in God are they dependent on each other or independent of each other ? if they are dependent on each other that means non of them can be God because God is not dependent on anyone or anything, if they are independent of each other that means we end up with 3 gods that means we have 3 different entities independently working of each other and all of them are fully 100% God so you end up with Polytheism or Atheism you cannot end up with Christianity.
God the father (of everything) born (himself) as the savior jesus to teach men the way to salvation and to die as the last atonement for sin (past present future) to have the father resurrect him so that he may send (himself god) as the holy spirit to all people that believe in jesus aka god the father in the flesh. So god the father is the manifestation of all of god 100% and jesus is all of god as well but as a mortal man 100% and the holy spirit is god divided up to all that believe in him
They act dependent on each other. That doesn't mean God is dependent though. The three persons do everything in perfect harmony.
@@brandengillette7794 this theory makes no logical sense🤦why the creator of all need to become human to know how they live?jesus is 100% god and 100% human? either he is god immortal or human and mortal. i never understand this logic behind trinity.
@@MegaHj12 God needed to show man the way back to him. Because we are sinners. We do what is best in our own earthly eyes. And not what is good in Gods eyes. God is a spirit He lives outside of our dimension and reality. And so he became a worm mortal like us to show us that he can be good as he wants us to be and so can you. God dose have the power to be on earth as a spirit and intervene in the lives of man. That was the god of the Old testament. Thundering voice that came in the midst of clouds. That hath no man see the face of God yet live. Because of his shining emitting power would vaporize us to dust. And even God as jesus was to powerful as a mortal man because of the miracles he preformed and so he sent the holy spirit (a form of god divided up and given for all who believe in him and are Born again In the Spirit.
Jesus said to his disciples when they ask if him of heavenly things.
If you do not believe me of earthly things, how will you believe me of heavenly things?
@@brandengillette7794 this is all a spiritual explination. not a logical. because so i can belief also in greek mythology. olymp is the heaven, tautarus is the hell, zeus is godfather and his daughters and son are gods but have not the same authority but they go down to earth sometimes.
Nicely done! Odd to me how we can fathom things like the "force" on Star Wars or teleportation on "Star Trek", but find it so difficult to understand how God can be one in three personages. I personally don't find it that difficult. As long as I don't place limitations upon God as if he were just a human like us. I guess you just have to be ok acknowledging there's someone wiser and greater than us humans.
The key to understanding the Trinity is the way you understand the construction of man as a human being.
@johnnylongshlong3677
Indeed it is nonsense.
Does Trinity an Excuse For Idolatry?
• Trinitarian - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit
• Babylonian - Nimrod, Simeramus, and Tammuz
• Ancient Egypt - Osiris, Isis, and Horus
• Ancient Meccans - Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat
• Greek mythology - Zeus, Poseidon, and Adonis
• Ancient Roman - Jupiter, Juno, and Minerva
• Hinduism - Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva
• Human sacrifice ( Jesus's crucifixion) is paganistic
• You shall have no other gods before me ( God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit )
• You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything
• You shall not bow down to them or worship them;
7 Pagans Festival
• Christmas. ( Sol Invictus, the Unconquered Sun )
• New Year's Day. ( Roman god; Janus )
• Easter. ( goddess Eostre )
• The Roman version of Halloween. ( memory of the Dead )
• May 1st - Labor Day. ( goddess Maia )
• Epiphany or Three Kings Day. ( goddess Diana )
• Saint John's Eve. ( goddess Fortuna )
Well, for starters, no one can explain the workings of the force and teleportation in detail either, which is why it is science fiction. But would those limitations you refuse to put on God also include the possibility that they are Three separate individuals working in-tandem? Why is that completely out of the question or impossible?
God isn't weak, dependent or ignorant as Jesus was, also God doesn't need to pray to God and beg him for help like Jesus did.
Don't worship a brown middle-eastern man that never asked to be worshipped or EVER said "I am God"
Explanation
1- In Isa. 43:10,11 the speaker is : LORD (yhwh).
2- In verse 10, he says "understand that (I am he)".
3- In verse 11, the LORD claims to be the only savior.
4- In John 8:24. below the speaker is Jesus and He also says (I am he).
and if you don't believe that, you will die in your sin.
5- In Isa. 48:12 The speaker is the (I am he), and (I am the first, and I am the last).
6- In Isa. 48 16. The one who SENDS is Lord GOD yhwh/adonay.
7- In Isa. 48:17 The speaker which is SENT (LORD God) is yhwh/elohim who
also claims to be the Redeemer
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Isa. 43:10,11.
10 You are my witnesses,” declares the LORD,
“and my servant whom I have chosen,
that you may know and believe me
and understand that (I am he).
Before me no god was formed,
nor shall there be any after me.
11 I, I am the (LORD),
and besides me there is no (savior).
John 8:24
24. I told you that you would die in your sins,
for unless you believe that (I am he) you will die in your sins.”
Isa. 48:12
“Listen to me, O Jacob,
and Israel, whom I called!
(I am he); I am the first,
and I am the last.
Isa. 48:16 Draw near to me, hear this:
from the beginning I have not spoken in secret,
from the time it came to be I have been there.”
And now the Lord GOD has sent me, and his Spirit.
Isa. 48:17
17a Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel:
“I am the LORD your God, ...
If we are made in God's image it's logical to think of the Trinity in terms of our own self.
Mind (God)
Body (Jesus)
Soul (Holy Spirit).
I understand that much better than so many abstract answers out there and especially the ones that say we aren't able to interpret it at all and that it just is ...
TRINITY EXPLAINED:-
JESUS CHRIST IS TRUE GOD ✝️❤️
Contradiction is "A" and Not "A" at same time. Eg: "Three beings in one being!" Or "Three persons in one person!" is Contradiction. But, Christians (Catholic) beleive that "Three persons in one being (One God)!". It's not Contradiction 💯👍
So that, 1 God = 3 Persons & 3 Persons are God ✝️
In this world, 1 being = 1 Person. But in the case of God, 1 being = 3 persons🔥🔥🔥
On the human level one person is one being, and any two persons are two beings. But, God is another dimension. DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF GOD & HIS TRUTHS. AMEN 🙏
🌹"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "Before Abraham was born, I AM" - JOHN 8:58
🌹In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth - GENESIS 1:1
🌹In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God - JOHN 1:1
🌹The word became a flesh & lived here with us - JOHN 1:14
I BELIEVE IN ONE GOD & HOLY TRINITY ✝️.
The most simple way I describe the triune nature of God is:
The Father has always existed with the Son
and the Holy Spirit,
They!
have always existed together,
(Eternal! no beginning no end)
They! (Plural),
are the One! (Singular)
God of Israel.
They, (plural)
are the One! (Singular)
Self-existing
Creator of all things.
Without the Father,
the Son or the Holy Spirit:
(God would not be God).
They! (Plural)
are the One (singular)
Eternal God of Abraham,
Isaac and Jacob.
The Father, the Son,
and the Holy Spirit;
Are!
The one and only true God!
They! Together,
Are!
The God of Israel.
We don't have to;
Completely understand it.
We only need to be able to apprehend it and that is enough!
For we cannot even understand our own emotions from one week to the next many times,
Much less, even at a minimum, to understand, the eternal nature of God, revealed and presented
in the Bible.
But, most certainly!
Through Jesus,
the Son (Of God)
we can enter into a intimate relationship with each distinct person of the triune nature of God.
And that is everything.
I could describe this with fewer words or many more words, but the essence of what is shared is enough for anybody to be accountable to know who it is,
and with what love,
who wants to save them!
Who wants to save them,
from their sins,
Who wants to save them
from the wrath of God to come,
Death,
Hell,
And!
The lake of fire,
That will come from God's
ultimate! and inevitable,
Righteous and Just!
White Throne judgment,
of all humanity on that day.
Choose God and God's love through the Son, choose life on God's terms, not your terms.
According to the Bible!
God's terms are believing, receiving and following Jesus
Receiving God's love for you, who came from Heaven off His throne, who suffered and died on a Roman cross for you when he didn't have to.
Who raised his own body from the dead to prove that he is true and who the Bible declares Him to be.
The Bible declares that if you believe these thing by faith, that your eyes will be opened and the truth will set you free.
d - a Whitestone
My explanation to people is that God made us in his image. We have a mind , a body, and a spirit. So does God in the father, the son , and the Holy Spirit. Just as I am a father to my kid, a son to my dad, and I have my own soul.
Me: hey, where did Jesus sit when he went back to heaven?
Trinitian: He sat next God
Me: If you believe Jesus is God you believe Jesus sat next to himself.
Trinitian:Yes
Me: dahhhhhhhhhhh
Uh no. We are only commanded to teach 1 God, no where in scripture does it mention a triune god or tell us to teach about a triune god. Duet 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:
5 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.
9 And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.
Brimstone this says he gas 1 person. heb 1 :3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
Brimstone I’ve read your comments one again Hebrews declares one person. And yes Jesus is God. But who exactly is Jesus? Jesus is the father robed in flesh. John 1:1 and 14. 1 tim3:16. Also god is a spirit. not spirits. 1 spirit so the Holy Spirit can’t be a different person nor is a spirit a person.
Brimstone here’s a prophecy about Jesus
isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
I’m glad you asked. The Bible is clear Jesus was a man and had be tested like every other man, So as a man he got tempted, hungry, thirsty, felt pain, learned, grew, got tired, sad, cried, had a different will, had a lack of knowledge, bled, sweated, and since he was a man he prayed. As in flesh praying to spirit, and died. etc...
As God he worked miracles, forgave sin, walked on water, healed the sick, Rose the dead and rose from the dead, knew all things, etc... there are scriptures to back all that up. So yes flesh prayed to the spirit because the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. I read the kjv. I don’t read any bible that sugar coats the word or waters it down.
As for Matt 28 : 19 you overlooked one key word (name) singular not names. So what is the name of the father? what is the name of the son? What is the name of the Holy Ghost? It’s one name for those. Acts 2 :38 declares the name Jesus as well as many other scriptures.
Example
Matt 28 :19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost
Harper Collins Bible Dictionary:
Page 432
"Indeed, although the doctrine of the Trinity is a later development"
Page 1178
"Trinity, the, a term denoting the specifically Christian doctrine that God is a unity of three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The word itself does not occur in the Bible. It is generally acknowledged that the church father Tertullian (ca. A.D. 145-220) either coined the term or was the first to use it with reference to God.
The explicit doctrine was thus formulated in the post biblical period, although the early stages of its development can be seen in the NT. Attempts to trace the origins still earlier (to the OT literature) cannot be supported by historical-critical scholarship, and these attempts must be understood as retrospective interpretations of this earlier corpus of Scripture in the light of later theological developments."
Page 1179
"The formal doctrine of the Trinity as it was defined by the great church councils of the fourth and fifth centuries is not to be found in the NT."
New Catholic Encyclopedia vol XIV:
Page 295
"When one does speak of an unqualified Trinitarianism, one has moved from the period of Christian origins to, say, the last quadrant of the 4th century. It was only then that what might be called the definitive Trinitarian dogma 'one God in three persons' became thoroughly assimilated into Christian life and thought."
Page 295
"On the other hand, the formula itself does not reflect the immediate consciousness of the period of origins; it was the product of 3 centuries of doctrinal development."
Questions:
1. Did Jesus Christ have two fathers? The Father is the Father of the Son (I John 1:3), yet the child born of Mary was conceived by the Holy Ghost (Matthew 1:18, 20; Luke 1:35) Which one is the true father?
2. How many Spirits are there? God the Father is a Spirit (John 4:24), the Lord Jesus is a Spirit (II Corinthians 3:17), and the Holy Spirit is a Spirit by definition. Yet there is one Spirit (I Corinthians 12:13; Ephesians 4:4). In Revelation 3:1 God has seven Spirits.
3. If Father and Son are co-equal persons, why did Jesus pray to the Father? (Matthew 11:25) Can God pray to God?
4. How come the Son doesn't know much about the Father? (Matthew 24:36; Mark 13:32).
5. What about verses indicating the inequality of the Son and the Father? (John 8:42; 14:28; I Corinthians 11:3)
6. If the Son is eternal and existed at creation, who was his mother at that time? We know the Son was made of a woman (Galatians 4:4)
7. Did 'God the Son' surrender His omnipresence while on earth? If so, how could he still be God?
8. If the Son is eternal and immutable (unchangeable), how can the reign of the Son have an ending? (I Corinthians 15:24-28).
9. Are there three Spirits in a Christian heart? Father, Jesus and the Spirit all dwell within a Christian (John 14;17, 23; Romans 8:9)
10 Is Jesus in the Godhead or is the Godhead in Jesus as stated in Colossians 2:9?
11. Who raised Jesus from the dead? Did the Father (Ephesians 1:20), or Jesus (John 2:19-21), or the Spirit? (Romans 8:11)
If Son and Holy Ghost are co-equal persons in the Godhead, why is blasphemy of the Holy Ghost unforgivable but blasphemy of the Son is not? (Luke 12:10)
If Jehovah is a Trinity, then doesn't that mean that Father, Son and Spirit all had to die to make the new covenant effective? (Hebrews 9:16-17)
If the Spirit proceeds from the Father, is the Spirit also a son of the Father? If not, why not?
If the Spirit proceeds from the Son, is the Spirit the grandson of the Father? If not, why not?
Haper Collins publish both Holy Bibles and satanic bibles. I am unable of taking Harper Collins seriously.
www.harpercollins.com/9780380015399/satanic-bible/
Nice post. I like to pose the question...is there any other god other than Jesus Christ's God?
Grant Knott
No
The Father is the only God
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
RSV
Only-monos
God-theos
Monos theos
Monotheism
The Father
Jesus is the one the true God (the Father) sent!
Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
Jesus has a God!
Jesus died!
God can’t die!
God raised Jesus from the dead!
Love your scriptural explanation.
One that I like to use to refute the LIE of the Trinity is, Has God got a God NO Has God got Brothers NO Has God got Son's or Children Yes,Has the Son got a God yes Has the Son Got Sons No Has the Son got Children No Has the Son got Brothers Yes,So how can they be the One God.
@@mitchellc4 What is DEATH? A separation of the spirit of life from the body. The body dies, but not the spirit!
Unless you believe in the trinity then you’re not saved seems to be the fear tactic in order to sell it.
Most folks will just go along with it even though it makes no sense for fear of not being saved, even though they don’t understand it.
As with most of these videos on explaining the trinity,,,,,,,,,, no scripture given.
Stems from Catholicism.
Yeshua Jesus preached the coming kingdom and to repent back to His Fathers will and instruction on how we should live.
Yeshua taught us how to walk that life. Deuteronomy 6, Matthew 22:33-38, 1John 2:3, John 14:15.
The only way to understand the trinity is to lose your logic and become confused to a point you accept everything.
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@antonelavazquez4886 Indeed the Father is the only true God. People left such clear description of God and chased after their own man-made Doctrine while claiming that God is complicated. My problems with Trinitarians is that they get so mad when I give questions as if I owe them.
You Are A 1.)Body 2.)Soul & 3.)Spirit(Matt10:28)made In The Image of Gd(Gen1:27)…you are triune.
@@johnchauke7492 unlikely…
@@mickraybam6012 I am one person. And in gen 1 v 27 there's no trinity there. Just bcoz u have your man made doctrine doesn't mean i will use the same to interpret the Bible.
The trinity is basically God in 1 being & 3 in persons. A being is what makes you what you're while a person is what makes you whom you are. What makes you a being? You're a human being. What makes you a person? Your name (unique identity). We all share the same being but we're different persons. So each of us is 1 being with 1 person while God is 1 being with 3 persons but they co-exist eternally.
Just look in the book of Genesis 1:1, 1:26 (creation) 3:22 (after man sinned), 11:7 (tower of Babel), it all refers to "US" who would it be if not for all the 3 persons
Deuteronomy 6:4 tells us that God is one, the context of how 'one' was used here was to depict unity just as you can see in Genesis 2:24 where it speaks of the man shall leave his parents & cleave to his wife & they shall be 1 flesh (see also Jesus speaking in Mark 10:7-9 & Romans 12:5 all believers are 1 in Christ). Definitely this is clear to see 'one' had more than 1 meaning- unity & quantity in number.
There's no contradiction to the trinity. Jesus Himself also told His disciples (Matthew 28:19) to go & baptise in the NAME of Father & the Son & of the Holy Spirit. It is good to understand the context of verses & do more research what was its original meaning.
1 John 5:7 sums it up well. Do read it😊 We even say it in the grace as final greetings after meeting to fellowship together. (2 Corinthians 13:14)
God the Father- God above all (Ephesians 4:6)
God the Son (Jesus)- God with us (Matthew 1:23)
God the Spirit (Holy Spirit)- God in us (John 14:26)
Hope that helps someone better understand it. Everything is in the Bible. For further references look up in Matthew 28:19; John 15:26; 1 Corinthians 12:4-13; 2 Corinthians 13:14; Ephesians 2:18; 1 Thessalonians 1:2-5 & 1 Peter 1:2
The word Us means anything that is more than one. Us is 10, 20, 30, 40, 100. 200. How did this word Us, managed to be interpreted as 3 and why not another number ? Please support the number 3 with scripture or verse.
If you have repeated the actual saying, Go into all the world and baptise in the name of the father, son and holy spirit, then, you have not done it, until the name is called. If you are asked to do it in the name, then the NAME should be literally called and not repeat what He said. Baptising and calling the name is literally carrying the actual instruction, just as the Apostles did and not the titles. The name identifies but the title can be anyone. The name also carries authority. I am a father, I am a son, I am husband, I am a employee, I am a minister. I hold all these titles, but to identify me, I have to be called by my one given name.
If you gave someone a cheque to put in their bank account and it had not got your name on it, then it is useless and invalid.
If a parent gave their child a cheque to pay for their school tuition and their name was not on the cheque, then the school would ask, for the authoritve name that is meant to be on that cheque, that will allow the cheque to be cashed.
Your name identifies you and carries authority.
Call the name and not the title, for the power is in the NAME and not the title.
Acts 2 vs 38: Repent and be baptise in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. Its this authoritive name Jesus Christ that removes the sin and not the title. When a child is born or a woman is married, they don't take on the title of the father or husband, but they take on his name.
Colossians 3 vs 17 : And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Calling the name invokes the power and authority that is in the name.
@Raj Singh Well said Raj
@Raj Singh Just because we humans can't comprehend all about God, His ways, nature, doesn't mean it isn't true. God is infinitely greater than we are & that's the beauty & mystery of God. The Bible shows they're all 1 (unity). Get to understand the contexts of some words & verses & compare Scripture to Scripture. Let Scripture explain itself.
@@setapart3452 THAT'S WHY IT'S A TRINITY. THE TRINITY OF TRINITIES.
IN THE BEGINNING (TIME) GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS (SPACE) AND THE EARTH (MATTER) FOR EVERYTHING TO EXIST NEEDS THREE DIMENSIONS.
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GOD THE FATHER : THE IDENTITY (JUST LIKE YOU HAVE A NAME, BUT YOUR IDENTITY IS MORE THAN A NAME, IT IS THE CONSCIOUSNESS OF WHO YOU ARE, LIkE IF YOU DESCRIBED YOURSELF, IT WON'T JUST BE "MY NAME AND AGE" BuT INSTEAD YOUR VIRTUES AND FLAWS).
GOD THE SON: IT SHOWS THAT WE LIVE INSIDE A BODY, WE CAN'T BE OUT OF OURSELVES, AND WE ALWAYS HAVE SOMEONE IN A HIGHER PLACE THAN US (MOM, DAD, UNCLE, ETC) JUST LIKE THE SON OBEYS THE FATHER, SO WE ARE TO BE SONS AND DAUGHTERS LIKE THE PRAYER "THY WILL BE ON EARTH AS IN HEAVEN" JESUS CREATED US, FOR WHEN GOD (THE MASTER MIND) THE FATHER WAS LEADING... THE SON WAS OBEYING.
XTRA: When you're a human, the first thing you really get to say it's yours,are your blood related children. Jesus is his obedient son, the maker of all things.
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God THE SPIRIT: OF COURSE, MAKING A REMOTE CONTROL CAR IS AMAZING, BUT WHAT WOULD THAT BE, WITHOUT A BATTERY?
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WHEN EVERYTHING WAS CREATED, LOOKED BEAUTIFUL, BUT WITHOUT THE ESSENCE OF LIFE, NOTHING WOULD EVER WORK. THE HOLY SPIRIT IS THE VERY ESSENCE OF GOD, JUST LIKE THE BLOOD (OR SPIRIT) RELATED SON.
WHEN GOD CREATED THE PLANTS, EVERYTHING LOOKED GOOD. NOW, WHEN GOD CREATED MAN, IT IS CLEARLY SAID THAT GOD BREATHED HIS BREATH OF LIFE INTO THE MAN'S NOSE (THE PART OF GOD WHICH WE ALSO HAVE FOR FREE) AND IS THERE, WHEN EVERYTHING STARTED.
SE, THE TRINITY OF GOD, WHICH HE CAN LIVE IN A SEPARATE WAY, HE INTEGRATED IT INTO EACH ONE OF US.
"LET US MAKE MAN TO 'OUR'(INTEGRATION) IMAGE AND LIKENESS (LOOKING LIKE, BUT NOT EQUALLY MADE (WITH SELF POWER))"
WE HAVE AN IDENTITY (GOD FATHER)
WE HAVE A BODY (FLESH) (GOD SON)
WE HAVE A SPIRIT (BREATH OF LIFE) (GOD SPIRIT).
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That is why, when we talk to one another, all we look into, are the EYES; is the identity (soul/inner and only self) WE ARE SOULS LIVING IN BODIES, AND THE SPIRIT SUSTAINS THE FLESH.
I HOPE I HAD CLEARED IT JUST LIKE I FELL GOD HAS CLEARED IT FOR ME. BLESSINGS.
Jesus christ is God Have you any question ❓
@Mansoor Ahmad
John chapter 20
Verse 27-28
27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
Matthew chapter 3 verses 16-17 shows the Trinity
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
John 1
King James Version
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Genesis 1
King James Version
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
The Father is greater than all..
I agree. I think you will like this book based on your comment(it's free online): An analytical study of words
@Mansoor Ahmad TRINITY EXPLAINED:-
JESUS CHRIST IS TRUE GOD ✝️❤️
Contradiction is "A" and Not "A" at same time. Eg: "Three beings in one being!" Or "Three persons in one person!" is Contradiction. But, Christians (Catholic) beleive that "Three persons in one being (One God)!". It's not Contradiction 💯👍
So that, 1 God = 3 Persons & 3 Persons are God ✝️
In this world, 1 being = 1 Person. But in the case of God, 1 being = 3 persons🔥🔥🔥
On the human level one person is one being, and any two persons are two beings. But, God is another dimension. DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF GOD & HIS TRUTHS. AMEN 🙏
SON (JESUS) WAS NOT CREATED. HE IS THE CREATOR. IN THE BEGINNING JESUS WAS WITH THE FATHER WITH HEAVENLY BODY AND FATHER CREATED ALL THINGS THROUGH SON (JESUS) ✝️❤️
🌹"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "Before Abraham was born, I AM" - JOHN 8:58
🌹In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth - GENESIS 1:1
🌹In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God - JOHN 1:1
🌹The word became a flesh & lived here with us - JOHN 1:14
🌹"Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, - GENESIS 1:26
I BELIEVE IN ONE GOD & HOLY TRINITY ✝️
TRINITY EXPLAINED:-
JESUS CHRIST IS TRUE GOD ✝️❤️
Contradiction is "A" and Not "A" at same time. Eg: "Three beings in one being!" Or "Three persons in one person!" is Contradiction. But, Christians (Catholic) beleive that "Three persons in one being (One God)!". It's not Contradiction 💯👍
So that, 1 God = 3 Persons & 3 Persons are God ✝️
In this world, 1 being = 1 Person. But in the case of God, 1 being = 3 persons🔥🔥🔥
On the human level one person is one being, and any two persons are two beings. But, God is another dimension. DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF GOD & HIS TRUTHS. AMEN 🙏
SON (JESUS) WAS NOT CREATED. HE IS THE CREATOR. IN THE BEGINNING JESUS WAS WITH THE FATHER WITH HEAVENLY BODY AND FATHER CREATED ALL THINGS THROUGH SON (JESUS) ✝️❤️
🌹"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "Before Abraham was born, I AM" - JOHN 8:58
🌹In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth - GENESIS 1:1
🌹In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God - JOHN 1:1
🌹The word became a flesh & lived here with us - JOHN 1:14
🌹"Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, - GENESIS 1:26
I BELIEVE IN ONE GOD & HOLY TRINITY ✝️
@Mansoor Ahmad Doesn't the Bible say that Jesus was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God? Since Jesus is the Word that was God, then Jesus is what that was with God? Wasn't he God that was with God in the beginning?
accepting it is the main thing. we don’t have to totally understand it. when we receive our transfigured bodies, we’ll also then have access to all knowledge. thank you Jesus!
Jim Oaks everyone that believes in the trinity says this exact thing. “You can never understand it” but are very lazy to show any scripture because they have been thought of men and have not scrutinized the scriptures. You have to admit you don’t have proof of the trinity. The complexity of God coming into the flesh is not an easy thing to grasp but a true search of the harmony of the whole scriptures can reveal it.
Trinity explained scientifically
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Ok so where are the Scriptures to support this so-called Gospel of the Trinity?
It would take a whole day of going through them together
You can start with the Gospels & who Jesus said He was, how he accepted worship, said he could forgive sins. If you look at the OT . All the I AM statements. All the times the Pharisees wanted to stone him because he made it seem to them that He was God. . There’s a lot there to … the Bible al fits together but Jesus is multifaceted , as per Philippians 2 he temporarily humbled himself of his full glory but was still God.
Thanks. I now finally understand the trinity. The trinity is like being married to God but also having two mistresses on the side as well. Worshipping the two mistresses is idolatry as well as adultery.
So, if I worship the trinity, my soul is guaranteed to burn in hell for eternity before my spirit is finally extinguished forever. What a wonderful idea. Read Deuteronomy 13:6 for more clarification.
If you want to understand the Trinity go to The Lord's Day Ministry. God gave me a revelation that perfectly explains it.
Good one
Book of acts chapter 7 verse 55-56
Matthew chapter 3 verse 16 -17
There is a Trinity a GOD Head.
HOLY HOLY HOLY Lord GOD Almighty...,.,,
@@mudfoot3000 Book of Acts & book of Matthew was not written by God. Both books are considered satanic & pro idol worship.
@@mudfoot3000 Unfortunately, neither Acts nor Book of Matthew is factual. Both are considered fiction. And Book of Acts & book of Matthew are both pro -idol worship.
Why would I want to understand something that does not exist, is false and not biblical. So stop talking rubbish.
what do you mean with god send the "son and the "holy spirit"? going by the understanding that they are all 3 god as one, you fall upon a problem. "sending" means that something is subject to change. god can't be subject to change, because if it was it would mean that before or after that change it was or would be imperfect. god is perfect, but at the same time imperfect?? can you explain that please?
Alex K
It’s God’s existence in his realm as God that the Son is inseparably conjoined to the existence of this being. It is the eternal union of the Godhead that God cannot be in his existence as God apart from the other. Thus, the Son cannot exist apart from the Father, nor can the Father exist without the Son. And without our understanding of God's purpose and will in creation, there can be no objective moral purpose accomplished. Hence, the Spirit plays part upon that purpose. They are inseparable. The Godhead exists as a separate entities in one being. Even before the foundation of the world, God’s being is defined in plural form. Meaning that God was not alone in doing his work in the creation; hence the word “ELOHIM” was used to indicate the plurality of the pronoun. For example, God said in Genesis 1:26-“Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.” Here, God has a companion in the creation.
@@paeng46 god is the only absolute unity. he has no parts. ever heard of the idea of the "uncaused first cause" that's god according to aristotle, and christian theologians agree with him. it doesn't have parts, so an idea of plurality in god is impossible...
@@thequestioner999
Well, that's what the pronoun Elohim means my friend. It indicates the plural form of the word *_EL_* for God. And it is what the apostle John said in John 1:1-3-- "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made".
Indeed God is one being but that being is consists of entities which the Bible calls as the *GODHEAD.* (acts 17:29; Romans 1:20 & Colossians 2:9).
@@paeng46 that's a polytheistic view you got there. God is absolute oneness. No godhead, no parts. I'll explain the concepts of uncaused first cause. Every cause has been caused by a previous cause, continue that cycle for a while and you arrive to the uncaused first cause which is cause. The uncaused first cause can't have plurality because if you say that god is composed out of multiple components you will always have one that has been there first to cause the other. So it's a sort of syntax error if you know what I mean
@@thequestioner999
*"Every cause has been caused by a previous cause, continue that cycle for a while and you arrive to the uncaused first cause which is cause. The uncaused first cause can't have plurality because if you say that god is composed out of multiple components you will always have one that has been there first to cause the other".* You said that. Well, read and understand carefully what John 1:1-3 said. It is clearly saying that both God and the Word is are existing together in eternity past. And John said that without the Word who is God, nothing in all of God's power has ever come into existence without him; which only means that he is co-existing with God in eternity past.
The Trinity wasn't explained.
20/20: Eyes To See And Ears To Hear
Nice post
It can't be explained. It is a logical contradiction.
@@vilicus77 Trinity explained scientifically
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He is explaining that the Trinity cannot be explained. It can only be illustrated in the light of the scriptures, but no explanation can meet its definition. He is just giving you an analogy. Analogy is just a logical resemblance of the actual thing being explained. If you believe in God, then you must also believe in the Triune Godhead (Acts 17:29; Romans 1:20).
Having received His precious Holy Spirit and having been convicted of sin and repenting of certain things...I know He's very happy when I talk about His Son. I also feel the joy His Son has for dying for us and the concrete connection He has to His Father. He meant what He said when saying, " If you have seen me, you have seen the Father".
Right this moment my heart cries, "Abba, Father!"
We were made to worship Him, so turn from the sin His Holy Spirit shows you and trust Him! Yeshua means Salvation!
If you want to understand the Trinity go to The Lord's Day Ministry. God gave me a revelation that perfectly explains it.
@@thelordsdayministry2026 The Lord never gave any scriptures wich explain it. Isn't it odd?
Scriptures teach us that Jesus is the Christ (wich means man anointed by God to be his representative).
God is Spirit and Jesus is the Son of man. It's all over the scriptures.
And btw: Yahshua means Yah (God) is salvation. For God will save the world through the man he has appointed.
@@johndevisser903 What are you a Muslim? If you don't believe Jesus is God you are not a Christian.
Christ means anointed one not "man anointed".
There is Scripture all through the Bible that explains this. John 10:30,"I and my Father are one." You can watch my video and hear a lot of Scripture. I'm not going to write a book here.
About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out with a loud voice, “Elí, Elí, lemá sabachtháni?” that is, “My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?”
Firstly, that verse right there, does it really sound like Jesus was willing to die on the cross ? He didn't want to die, If he was God then he should of known what was coming and endured the slow painful death on the cross so that everyone today would love him and feel sorry for him because he took on the sins of everyone. Jesus didn't want to die, yet you worship him as if he willingly died for you. You feel the joy Jesus had for dying for you ? okay.. **puzzled scratch head**
Second, Jesus is saying my god my god, Hello alarm bells are ringing. ''MY GOD MY GOD.'' If Jesus was god incarnated, why the hell then is he calling on himself ? Christian logic, I swear i will never understand no matter how much I try. I just can't.
Existence Be gone, Satan.
I agree with Fred Sanders when he says, “Connect the Trinity to the Gospel.” *John 1:18* is proof that God is triune, meaning “three-in-one.”
Nobody has seen God the father, but we have seen God the Son and feel God the Holy Spirit. The words “only begotten” translate to “Monogenes” in Greek, meaning “one-of-a-kind” or “unique.” Only Jesus could make the invisible God visible and have His perfect, sinless nature.
I hope this helps! 🙌🏽
I think I lost my brain cells listening to this. So you saying God done a role play and I couldn't even comprehend the role play properly.
If you want to understand the Trinity go to The Lord's Day Ministry. God gave me a revelation that perfectly explains it.
Book of acts chapter 7 verse 55-56
Matthew chapter 3 verse 16 -17
There is a Trinity a GOD Head.
HOLY HOLY HOLY Lord GOD Almighty.;;;;,
Can we as mere humans Fully say that we understand the Trinity and its complexity? Why do we feel the need to sit on a presupposition that we are competent in understanding all there is to know about a being we have never met nor seen! The word trinity is never found in scripture, yet chrisitian scholars have chosen this word to describe one of the greatest and most powerful mysteries to mankind. Let him who has ears to listen, listen to what the spirit of the Lord is saying to the churches.
Trinity explained scientifically
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3 questions, what time period God became trinity? What is Father God son of God and Holy God names? Since the song says God in 3 persons who is the mother's of the Father, Son and Holy spirit?
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus
Muslim: is Jesus the son of Mary,
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Who created Mary?
Christian: God,
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus
Muslim:Jesus is the begotten son
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Who is his father?
Christian: God.
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus.
Muslim Jesus is a servant of God
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Jesus died on the cross?
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Is Jesus a messenger.
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Who sent him?
Christian: God.
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus.
Muslim: Did Jesus worship while on earth
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Whom did he worship?
Christian: God.
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus.
Muslim: Did God have a beginning
Christian: No
Muslim: Then who was born on 25/DEC?
Christian: Jesus.
Muslim: Is Jesus God.
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Where's God?
Christian: In heaven,
Muslim: How many Gods are there in heaven?
Christian: Only one God.
Muslim: Where's Jesus?
Christian: He is seated on the right hand of his father.
Muslim: Then how many are they in heaven?
Christian: Only one God.
Muslim: Then how many seats?
Christian: one
Muslim: where's Jesus?
Christian: Seated next to God.
Muslim: How are they seated on one chair?
Christian: Its only understood by those with the Ghost. You need Ghost my friend.
Simple Jesus is the Father Son and Holy ghost wrapped in one . There is no Trinity. Because I know I not a Trinity. I'm a son, A Husband and a nephew those are characteristics of me and describes me as a being. One reason some churches think Trinity is real but it is not. There is one God his name is Jesus
JESUS CHRIST (is the name of)
THE FATHER - John 5:43
THE SON - Matthew 1:21
THE HOLY SPIRIT - John 14:26
plus remember what John saw at the end of ages, he was the only man who saw Jesus Christ in all his glory he saw heaven and the new earth not even Paul knew and the other big holy men in the whole bible saw what John saw...he said BEHOLD I SAW ONE THRONE. He said ONLY ONE SAT AT THE THRONE. JESUS CHRIST IS THE SAME GOD OF THE OT. HE FINALLY REVEALED HIS REAL NAME . They use to call him LORD YAHWEH GOD AND MANY THINGS. NOW NOW IT'S JESUS CHRIST. READ ACTS 4:12 AND ACTS 2:38. May the Lord guide you all. Amen💓
Jesus said in the Gospel of John that unless a man is born again of water and spirit he cannot enter heaven.
Amen!!! John is a type of the bride and John saw the whole Book of Revrlation but did you notice who shows John this Book....its a prophet that John wanted to worship...Rev 22 vs 9....3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. Amos 3 vs 7.
@@eagleeyes6642 Indeed there are things Jesus told the 12 that wasn't revealed... Deuteronomy 29:29
@@Jr-oz8lf What do you think of the Restoration ministry that Jesus PROMISED would come through the prophet Elijah?..."Truly Elijah SHALL FIRST COME AND RESTORE ALL THINGS JESUS SAID.
@@eagleeyes6642 Jesus answers that through the Gospel brother when the people was telling him about that. John the Baptize or it was Jesus I can't remember exactly but the Lord Jesus answers your question in the Gospel I suggest to give it another read brother for real. The Lord would talk in many ways that didn't mean literally what it meant. Wise is the Lord
Amen brother that's right
You will always have 3 Image in mind when you think about God... Your heart will never find eternal peace if you are in the search of the ONE and only true God, while you belive in Trinity.
Yeah,you're right....
That's why I say that Christians believe in 3 gods...😐😐
Nah i never think about three people when a think about God
You are Either lieing or even if you are not lieing then something is wrong with your Brian imagening 3 person as one.
I dont imagine God, it is a sin (2nd commandment). And millions of trinitarians all around the world would disagree that their hearts arent at peace.
@@hsdjsdshdhsdnsmsd6247
Their hearth in peace, but their mind confuse,
even atheis also get peace in their hearth.
Perhaps someone could help me understand. I just really don't understand. If He is one being, how could there be three different persons with different thought processes? And if they think and act independently, they would not be one being, correct? For instance, my hand does not have a mind of its own. If it did, we would probably treat that as a conjoined-twins situation and give my hand its own social security. I suppose you could make the argument that they are conjoined somehow spiritually, but they would still be separate beings, and would be treated as such. If anyone does have a better explanation, I'd be willing to listen. I honestly am pretty confused about the concept.
Aa someone said "The only way to understand the trinity is to lose your logic and become confused to a point you accept everything."
There are many Christian denominations that teaches the Trinity. However, notice what the Encyclopedia Britannica states: “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies.”
Try sticking to what the bible says and that God is the Father, Jesus is his son and our savior and the Holly Spirit is God's active force.
"After Jesus brings about Kingdom blessings to earth, he will hand over the Kingdom to his God and Father - 1 Cor 15:24
“This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.”-John 17:3.
“You, whose name is Jehovah (Yahweh) , you alone are the Most High over all the earth.”-Psalm 83:18.
“My Father is greater than I [Jesus].”-John 14:28. *
“I [Jesus] ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and your God.”-John 20:17.
“To us there is but one God, the Father.”-1 Corinthians 8:6.
“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”-1 Peter 1:3.
“These things saith the Amen [Jesus], . . . the beginning of the creation of God.”-Revelation 3:14. *
"No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him". John 1:18
“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Mathew 7:21
"Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One.10 Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ.11 But the greatest one among you must be your minister" Mathew 23.9
"Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’ Mathew 7:22-23
@@itapinfomaps6233 Ya, I just don't understand. It is so much easier to understand they are separate, and in verses where they appear to be one entity can easily be explained by verses like these in John 17:
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
You just told me to connect it to the gospel. OK let's start with you telling me where the trinity word is. Very simple...
Hi Javi... I'm glad that you are thinking about this topic. To believe that Jesus is God is to disregard the bible as a whole. It is not surprising that Cardinal Hosius is quoted as having said: “We believe the doctrine of a triune God, because we have received it by tradition, though not mentioned at all in Scripture.” (Conf. Cathol. Fidei, Chap. XXVI). Another persons are just as frank about declaring the trinity to be of pagan origin is Arthur Weigall, in his book The Paganism in Our Christianity, states: “Jesus Christ never mentioned such a phenomenon, and nowhere in the New Testament does the word ‘Trinity’ appear.”
Even the Pope recently has been quoted as saying that Jesus is not God. I have included the links to prove this.
th-cam.com/video/jVz8CGkRieo/w-d-xo.html . Note the following link which the Vatican did not deny these claims. th-cam.com/video/etmDA1zNPyE/w-d-xo.html .
John 17:3 encourages us “And this is the way to have eternal life-to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth”. 1 John 2:3 reiterates this importance by stating “And we can be sure that we know him if we obey his commandments”. 1John:6 gives us this warning about our worship to God: “So we are lying if we say we have fellowship with God but go on living in spiritual darkness; we are not practicing the truth. - New Living Translation. So consider the following.
Another blatant scriptural fact that Christendom ignores and does not teach is, that unlike God whose name is Jehovah, Jesus is God’s first creation, and had a beginning (which is correct when John 1:1 reads that in the beginning the word was with God… Since God has no beginning, this isn’t talking about God, but Jesus) which is clearly the main reason he is not God. - This is what Colossians 1:15 says about Jesus: “The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation” - New International Version. This is why Jesus is described as God’s only begotten or first born son. It not only says that Jesus was God’s first creation in Colossians 1:15 but in 8 other verses in the bible also. Please read also Revelation 3:14, Psalms 89:27, Proverbs 8:22, 27 to 30, Hebrews 1:5&6, Romans 1:7, Matthew 3:16&17 & John17:3 & 8, Psalms 89:27 to confirm this for yourself. Can you categorically deny that these scriptures say that Jesus was God’s first creation?
Nowhere in the bible does God Jehovah, Jesus, or the Apostles say that Jesus is God. In fact the opposite is true and factual since Jehovah God himself states that he is alone God. Psalms 83:18 which reads “That men may know that you, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, are the most high over all the earth” - American King James Version.
Isiah 42:8 says “I am Jehovah, that is my name; and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise unto graven images” American Standard Version. Also confirmed in Exodus 34:14 says “For thou shalt worship no other God; for Jehovah -- Jealous is his name -- is a jealous God;” - Darby Bible Translation.
Jesus himself stated that he is not God. In fact many times he said he was not God. John 20:17 reads “Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God” New King James Version.
At Mark 15:34 it also reads “And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?” which is translated, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” New King James Version. Jesus knew that he was not God, because he instructed that worship should be directed to his Father Jehovah and not to him.
Mark 10:18 states “"Why do you call me good?" Jesus asked him. "Nobody is good except for one-God. - International Standard Version.
The apostles also confirms this for us. What is interesting is that everything written about Jesus after John was completed after his return to heaven. So 1Corinthians 11:3 also confirms that Jesus was not God in heaven also since it reads: “But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God” New King James Version.
Please also note, Philippians 2:6 states “Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;” - New International Version. This is confirmed by Jesus himself many times, but note what he says towards the end of his life on Earth, at John 14:28 : “You have heard Me say to you, ‘I am going away and coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, ‘I am going to the Father,’ for My Father is greater than I”. - New King James Version.
The bible is very clear on this point. Jehovah is God, and Jesus is his first creation which he calls his first born. 1John 4:9 & 10 states: “In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.” - New King James Version.
Does it state there or anywhere else in the bible that he sent himself or God sent any part of himself to the earth? No. There are other scriptures that also confirms that Jesus is not God but his first born or his creation. John 3:16 states: “For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.” - New Living Translation. John 3:18 continues “Anyone who believes in him is not condemned, but anyone who does not believe is already condemned, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God.” - Christian Standard Bible.
No scripture exists to confirm definitively that Jesus is God. Jesus himself never says that he is God, and the apostles and disciples never wrote that he was God. Note what 2Corinthians 1:3 says: “All praise to God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. God is our merciful Father and the source of all comfort”. - New Living Translation. 1 Corinthians 10:20&21 tells us to stay away from pagan teachings “lest we want to be sharers with the demons”.
The origin of the Trinity can be dated back to early Egyptians and Babylonians. It was only incorporated into Christianity after the 3rd Century by pagan Christians. Colossians 2:8 warns us then: “See to it, then, that no one enslaves you by means of the worthless deceit of human wisdom, which comes from the teachings handed down by human beings and from the ruling spirits of the universe, and not from Christ”. - Good News Translation.
Unfortunately, not only is the teaching that Jesus is God, but Christendom as a whole has whole heartedly embraced other pagan false teachings into the bible, such as the Cross, Christmas, Easter, Hell, Saint Worship, none of which the first century or the Christians of the bible believed, taught or followed.
If you want to worship the one and only true God acceptably, find a Church which has rejected all these pagan teachings. First benefit is as stated in John 8:32 - You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. Did you notice that the first step is to know the truth. And the first main truth that Jesus taught was that when we pray, we should first pray for the sanctification of God’s name against Satan’s lies.
Jesus said all praise should go to his God and Father as he instructed in the Lord’s Prayer before we pray for anything the first thing we should pray for is as found in Matthew 6:9: “You should pray like this: Our Father in heaven, help us to honor your name”. - Contemporary English Version. Note, Jesus was confirming what the scriptures say, that his God, and their God is the same, That his father in Heaven and their father in heaven is one in the same also because Jesus confirmed for us in his own words in this scripture “Our father in heaven”.
This is the bad side of not knowing or wanting to know the truth about God and his son Jesus. Those that continue to believe that Jesus is God, and not God’s first creation and first born son as written in the bible and mentioned above can also be likened to Cardinal Hosius was quoted in the outset having said: “We believe the doctrine of a triune God, because we have received it by tradition, though not mentioned at all in Scripture.” (Conf. Cathol. Fidei, Chap. XXVI), however, note what Jesus says about those who incorporate false and pagan traditions into true worship as found in Mark 7:6-9: “Jesus replied: You are nothing but show-offs! The prophet Isaiah was right when he wrote that God had said, "All of you praise me with your words, but you never really think about me. It is useless for you to worship me, when you teach rules made up by humans. You disobey God's commands in order to obey what humans have taught. You are good at rejecting God's commands so that you can follow your own teachings!” - Contemporary English Version.
Mark 7:13 highlights the folly of worship taught from man and not God. Jesus said “You are destroying the word of God through your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many other things like that." - International Standard Version. Find the truth and absolute truth about God, Jesus and his other teachings. This will mean everlasting life as stated in John 3:16 “For God loved the world in this way: so much that he would give up his Son, The Only One, so that everyone who trusts in him shall not be lost, but he shall have eternal life”. - Aramaic Bible in Plain English.
Richard Chileshe
The word *”TRINITY”* is not found in the Bible. It’s a doctrine teaching of the existence of God is a triune being.
@@paeng46 The Apostles also warned the congregations about false teachings and teachers that would soon arrive after them in Acts 20:29 & 30 which reads “For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves” - New King James Version. See also 1 Timothy 4:1 to 3, 2 Timothy 4:3 & 4, 2Peter 2:1 to 3, 2Peter 2:12 & 13.
1John 2:3&4 reads: “This is how we can be sure that we have come to know him: if we continually keep his commandments. The person who says, "I have come to know him," but does not continually keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth has no place in that person. International Standard Version.
If the Trinity, or the notion of the Trinity is not found in the Hebrew Scriptures, Would Jesus not say that he is God, and or clarify this for us in no uncertain terms? Absolutely he would, however Jesus in no way clarifies the trinity because this is not God’s teaching or true. Jesus, the Disciples and the Apostles, all recognised Jesus to be the son and first creation of God. Not God.
After all the multitudes of scriptures I have quoted, please also note what these religious and highly respectable and reputable sources says about Jesus and his relationship with God and the Trinity and the bible:
1) "Theologians today are in agreement that the Hebrew Bible does not contain a doctrine of the Trinity" (The Encyclopedia of Religion, ed. Mircea Eliade, Macmillan Publishing Company, 1987, Vol. 15, p. 54).
2) "The doctrine of the Trinity is not taught in the Old Testament" (New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1967, Vol. XIV, p. 306).
3) "Nowhere in the Old Testament do we find any clear indication of a Third Person" (The Catholic Encyclopedia, 1912, Vol. 15, p. 49).
4) "The Old Testament clearly does not envisage God’s spirit as a person…God’s spirit is simply God’s power. If it is sometimes represented as being distinct from God, it is because the breath of Yahweh acts exteriorly…The majority of New Testament texts reveal God’s spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of God" (New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1967, Vol. 13, pp. 574, 575).
5) "On the whole the New Testament, like the Old, speaks of the spirit as a divine energy or power" (W.E. Addis and Thomas Arnold, A Catholic Dictionary, 1960, p. 810).
6) "The third Person was asserted at a Council of Alexandria in 362...and finally by the Council of Constantinople of 381" (A Catholic Dictionary, p. 812).
7) "Karl Rahner [leading Roman Catholic spokesman] points out with so much emphasis that the Son in the New Testament is never described as ‘ho theos’ [the one God]" (A.T. Hanson, Grace and Truth, p. 66).
8) "The New Testament writers...give us no formal or formulated doctrine of the Trinity, no explicit teaching that in one God there are three equal divine persons.... Nowhere do we find any Trinitarian doctrine of three distinct subjects of divine life and activity in the same Godhead" (Fortman, The Triune God, pp. xv, xvi, 16).
9) "Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament" (The New Encyclopedia Britannica, 1985, Vol. 11, p. 928).
10) "Fourth-century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary a deviation from this teaching" (The Encyclopedia Americana, p. 1956, p. 2941).
11) "Apparently Paul did not call Jesus God" (Sydney Cave, D.D., Doctrine of the Person of Christ, p. 48).
12) "Paul habitually differentiates Christ from God" (C.J. Cadoux, A Pilgrim’s Further Progress, pp. 40, 42).
13) "Paul never equates Jesus with God" (W.R. Matthews, The Problem of Christ in the 20th Century, Maurice Lectures, 1949, p. 22).
14) "Paul never gives to Christ the name or description of ‘God’" (Dictionary of the Apostolic Church, Vol. 1, p. 194).
15) "When the New Testament writers speak of Jesus Christ, they do not speak of Him nor do they think of Him as God" (J.M. Creed, The Divinity of Jesus Christ, pp. 122-123).
16) "[Matt. 28:19] proves only that there are the three subjects named,...but it does not prove, by itself, that all the three belong necessarily to the divine nature, and possess equal divine honor…This text, taken by itself, would not prove decisively either the personality of the three subjects mentioned, or their equality or divinity" (McClintock and Strong, Cyclopedia of Biblical, Theological and Ecclesiastical Literature, 1987, Vol. X, p. 552).
17) "The Old Testament tells us nothing explicitly or by necessary implication of a Triune God who is Father, Son and Holy Spirit.... There is no evidence that any sacred writer even suspected the existence of a [Trinity] within the Godhead.... Even to see in the Old Testament suggestions or foreshadowings or ‘veiled signs’ of the Trinity of persons, is to go beyond the words and intent of the sacred writers" (Edmund J. Fortman, The Triune God, Baker Book House, 1972, pp. xv, 8, 9).
18) "The Old Testament is strictly monotheistic. God is a single personal being. The idea that a Trinity is to be found there is utterly without foundation." (L.L. Paine, A Critical History of the Evolution of Trinitarianism, Houghton Mifflin and Co, 1900).
19) "There is no break between the Old Testament and the New. The monotheistic tradition is continued. Jesus was a Jew, trained by Jewish parents in the Old Testament scriptures. His teaching was Jewish to the core; a new gospel indeed but not a new theology…And he accepted as his own belief the great text of Jewish monotheism: Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God is one God" (L.L. Paine, A Critical History of the Evolution of Trinitarianism, Houghton Mifflin and Co., 1900, p. 4).
20) "The fact has to be faced that New Testament research over, say, the last thirty or forty years has been leading an increasing number of reputable New Testament scholars to the conclusion that Jesus...certainly never believed himself to be God" ((Bulletin of the John Rylands Library, 1967-68, Vol. 50, p. 251).
I encourage all who want to serve God in Truth and in Spirit to do so in the willingness to give up and reject all falsehoods not found in the bible.
Bible says 1Corinthians 11:3 “But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God” New King James Version. Philippians 2:6 states “Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;” - New International Version.
Jesus himself say's in John 20:17 “Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God” New King James Version.
The origin of the Trinity can be dated back to early Egyptians and Babylonians. It was only incorporated into Christianity after the 3rd Century by pagan Christians. Colossians 2:8 warns us then: “See to it, then, that no one enslaves you by means of the worthless deceit of human wisdom, which comes from the teachings handed down by human beings and from the ruling spirits of the universe, and not from Christ”. - Good News Translation.
The bible tells us, if we want to worship God in an acceptable way, we all need and must find a religion that only worships the one true God of the bible Jehovah as stated in the bible at Psalms 83:18: “That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.” - King James Bible, and a religion that honours that name. That also follow all of the holy writings in God’s word, and reject all false pagan and demonic celebrations such as Christmas and Easter, and pagan symbols and amulets such as the cross or the crescent moon, and any form of angel, or saint worship or any worship other to Jehovah God. Then we will be the very few who chooses to go through the narrow gate to life instead of the many who walk on wide open road to destruction.
Is that not reasonable?
@@paeng46 I can only tell you what the bible says. If you can show which scriptures definitively say's that Jesus himself said he was, is, or part of God, then I will look this up. But such scriptures don't exist. Why? Because the bible says that Jesus is God's first creation in these scriptures below. I encourage you to look these up in your own bible to see for yourself. I also encourage you to google what is the origin of the Trinity as it is not a Godly, or biblical teaching.
Don't you agree if the bible is the true word of God then it cannot contradict itself, right? So do the scriptures that the church use to try to prove that Jesus is God, contradict any from the bible and listed in my last comment or in the comments below? Yes. The only teaching on this point of who is God that doesn’t have any contradiction is what Jesus and the apostle’s state from the bible that I have listed in my last comments and in this one.
The Church has been known to successfully incorporate false demonic pagan teaching that worship other god's into Christendom, such as Easter and Christmas, and the Cross... So this just proves that it is another false teaching and not a Godly one.
Going back to Jesus, the apostles under inspiration from the Holy Spirit wrote in Colossians 1:15 "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation." - New King James Version. Does it not clearly state that “He” being Jesus is the first born over all creation. The beginning of all things created from God?
John 1:1 states "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." - New King James Version. Lets break this scripture down. It says that "In the beginning the word was with God. The "word" being Jesus who is to act as God's spokesman cannot be one and the same as God. Why? Because it says that "In the beginning the word was with God". It cannot be talking about the beginning of God, since God has no beginning. This scripture also confirms that like humans, Jesus was created in as stated above in Colossians 1:15 in God's image. However, unlike Humans Jesus is the first born or first creation from God.
We know from Revelation 1:1 that God gave the revelation to Jesus, then Jesus gave it to the angels to give to the congregations. In Revelation 3:14 it states “And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write, ‘These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God:" - "New King James Version . The point of Jesus being God was not an issue with the Jews or the Christians back then, they knew that Jesus was God's first born or God's first creation, which is why this scripture confirms this to be the case... Where Jesus as the Amen or the Faithful and True Witness (being Jesus as God's spokesman or His appointed Word) confirms that he is God's first creation.
How did the Hebrews know that Jesus who came as God's son could not have been God himself?
Well Jesus confirms this for us when he was asked. John 10:33 & 36 reads: They answered, "We are not stoning you because of any good thing you did. We are stoning you because you did a terrible thing. You are just a man, and here you are claiming to be God!". So why do you accuse me of a terrible sin for saying that I am the Son of God? After all, it is the Father who prepared me for this work. He is also the one who sent me into the world." - Contemporary English Version . Jesus never claim he was God. In fact Jesus clarified he was not God, but as God's first creation he was God's son.
John 20:17 reads “Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God” - New King James Version.
Which is why also the apostle Paul confirms for us that Jesus is not God in 1Corinthians 11:3 “But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God” New King James Version. Mark 15:34 also reads “And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?” which is translated, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” New King James Version. Also compare Matthew 27:46.
John 1:18 reads “No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him” New King James Version. So it makes no sense to say that Jesus is God as thousands saw Jesus every day. See also Matthew 27:43.
John 17:3 reads “And eternal life means to know you, the only true God, and to know Jesus Christ, whom you sent". - Good News Translation. Yes the distinction is clear that we need to know the only true God, whose name is Jehovah, and the one he sent who we know as Jesus who acted as his word who became his Faithful and True Witness.
Proverbs 8:22 , 23 give us a special glimpse of heaven at the very beginning of John 1:1: "The LORD created me as His first course, before His works of old. From everlasting I was established, from the beginning, before the earth began". verses 27 to 30 continues "I was there when He established the heavens, when He inscribed a circle on the face of the deep, when He established the clouds above, when the fountains of the deep gushed forth, when He set a boundary for the sea, so that the waters would not surpass His command, when He marked out the foundations of the earth. Then I was a skilled craftsman at His side, and His delight day by day, rejoicing always in His presence. - Berean Study Bible.
These scriptures also confirm that as the one described in the verses above he was in fact God's first creation, before anything else was made, and he became Gods master worker. In what sense? John 1:1 confirms that the word who is Jesus was with God in the beginning, verse 2 says "He was in the beginning with God. " , and verse 3 says "All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made." - Again since God has no beginning it is not talking about God's beginning but when Jesus was created or begotten.
God allowed Jesus to create all other things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made." - New King James Version. This is also confirm in the creation account of Jesus at Colossians 1:15 to 17: "The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together." - New International Version. Please read these cross references to the scriptures above: John 1:10, 1 Corinthians 8:6, Hebrews 1:2, 1 John 5:1.
So who in fact created the Heavens and the Earth? Colossians 1:16 tells us 'For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-- all things have been created through Him and for Him." - New American Standard Bible.
Like the cross reference scriptures above, Colossians 1:16 tells us that All things were created for him and through him. It's like when Jesus was on earth, who cured the sick and raised the dead? Jesus knew that it was not him, but that his power comes from God. In the same way, all things were created by Jesus, but it is God's power that worked through him that makes it possible for him to do so.
Another interesting fact is, Jesus is the only one that can be called God's only begotten son. Because as God's first creation, Jesus was made directly by God. Then God Jehovah used Jesus to create everything else. Which is why God say's in Hebrews 1:5 "For to which of the angels did He ever say: “You are My Son, Today I have begotten You”? And again: “I will be to Him a Father, And He shall be to Me a Son”?" - New King James Version.
God prophesied in Psalms 89:27 & 28 "Indeed, I myself made him the firstborn, the highest of the kings of the earth. I will show my gracious love toward him forever, since my covenant is securely established with him. I will establish his dynasty forever, and his throne as long as heaven endures." - International Standard Version. Psalms 110:1 also reads “{Psalm of David.} Jehovah said unto my Lord, Sit at my right hand, until I put thine enemies [as] footstool of thy feet” Darby Bible Translation.
The confirmation of this fulfillment will be made when Jesus as God's appointed will be king of God's kingdom before he hands back this kingdom to God as stated in 1Corinthians 15:27 & 28 which reads “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him (GOD) is not made into subject.. Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all” New King James Version. This scripture is much easier to understand in the Christian Standard Bible “For God has put everything under his feet. Now when it says "everything" is put under him, it is obvious that he who puts everything under him is the exception. When everything is subject to Christ, then the Son himself will also be subject to the one who subjected everything to him, so that God may be all in all”. Yes Jesus will be subject over everything except God, then after Jesus rule of God's kingdom (1000 years) ends, he himself will willingly return all things to God and to subject himself to God in all things. How is it that he can be one and the same with God, if he is to be in Subjection to God? Simply put he cannot.
I hope this helps.
Richard Chileshe
Are you asking for the text that says Jesus himself said that he is God? I will give you Revelation 1:8 just to start with. By the way, I don’t post very long comments. I didn’t read all that you’ve written in two of your comments. But I read only parts of them, just to be honest with you. Please post only one argument at a time. In Revelation 1:8, Jesus said “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, *THE ALMIGHTY”.*
I came, I heard, I'm non the wiser
If you want to understand the Trinity go to The Lord's Day Ministry. God gave me a revelation that perfectly explains it.
Islam shows the world the truth of Isa (peace be upon him).
It doesn’t seam to make sense because it doesn’t. It’s not you it’s them.
He. His Word. His Spirit.
“Those who have ears, let them listen.”
We broke God’s law and “someone” came and paid the fine. When we stand before God at judgement, He can dismiss our case for it has been paid by the cleansing of our sins, by blood, through the path that has been paved, that we have been called to take; for we must take; to the Kingdom of God, to be with Him.
Without The Cross, we will never be able to be with God; never; for God is pure in nature, and sin cannot coexist in Him.
The day will come for us to know this “someone”; His nature, His love, His sacrifice, His obedience, His humility, His passion, His mind, His thoughts, His heart; He Himself, and we will be blown away; for none is like Him; for ages may come and go, but none is like Him.
None. Not one.
He is The First and The Last.
The moment we see Him, our knees will will bow, our tongues will confess; You are; indeed; Lord!
He is the The Lamb.
Understand God’s wrath and why it is justifiable; for He created earth and called it our home, gave us all and all, and requested only obedience, a test, which came in the form of a tree, for we cannot coexist with Him in disobedience, for He is REAL, and yet we broke the pact, and through many attempts to cleanse us, we choose to fail Him. We killed His prophets, His messengers, His people who reminded us of His plea; for He is REAL.
Finally, as it was promised, it was fulfilled; for He had to; for others who He sent were muted.
He who is our God, The God who created everything around you with His words; He who came, who walked, who taught, who loved, who shared, who healed; the sea obeyed, the demons bowed, the blind see, the mute speak, the deaf hear, THE DEAD RAISED! (Are you listening???!!!)
...but never had a place to lay his head, slept on the streets, pavements, deserts, rivers, and yet did not declare Himself as God, was mocked, spat on, slapped, punched, beaten, bruised, hated, despised and bled to death!
Bled to death; for He deeply loves us, wants to be with us, and for us to be with Him.
We must understand His love before we are worthy to even speak about it. Even for all ages to come, one will not be able to understand His love and the mysteries of The Cross in full.
He is coming again; and He is coming again; and again shall I say again; this time; as The Lion.
Know this “someone” today.
God have mercy on us all.
(Please, for what is left of your life in this world; for you know not when you will take your last breath; for my sake and for the sake of His mercy; venture into this 4 books called The Gospel; MATTHEW/MARK/LUKE/JOHN. Without these, you will not know what you are dealing with, FOR SOULS ARE AT STAKE.)
John 14:6 KJV
The end is near.
MERCY! MERCY!
Do you want The Truth?
Yes?
Are you willing to give up everything for The Truth?
Yes?
Will you die for The Truth, so that others may know The Truth?
Yes?
So shall it be; The Truth shall make you free.
The Word of God saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 14:6 KJV
For I am the Father, I am the Son, I am the Spirit.
It is He, His Word, His Spirit.
“Be still, and know that I am God.”
*You are given a will to say, “No”.
It all comes down to; DO YOU LOVE GOD?
Yes?
“Follow me”
(MATTHEW/MARK/LUKE/JOHN)
Hear!
For it is; I, MY WORD, MY SPIRIT.
I(God/Almighty/Creator)
MY WORD(The Messiah/The Christ/The Saviour/The Prince of Peace/The Son of God/The King of Kings/The Redeemer/The Counsellor/The Lord of Lords/The Word of God/The Son of Man/The Light of the world/The Rabbi/Son of David/The Bread of Life/The Ark of the Covenant/The Advocate/The Good Shepherd/The High Priest/The Lamb of God/The Lion of Judah/The Chief Cornerstone/The Way/The Truth/The Life)
MY SPIRIT(Holy Spirit/Holy Ghost/The Comforter/The Spirit of Truth/The Helper/The Wisdom/The Knowledge/The Counsel/The Might/The Breathe of The Almighty/The Giver of Life)
For it is all I; I am: I am The Alpha and The Omega: The First and The Last.
I came; 2000 years ago.
I come; soon and again; to judge the living and the dead.
I AM.
Don’t misunderstand me! I am not God! I am sending you what The Spirit of God is revealing! I am a sinner! I am sinner like you! I am a sinner worst than you can be!
He; God, is coming! He is calling all to repent and turn away from sin! The gates to Kingdom of Heaven is about to be opened and closed, and narrow is the path to it, for wide it is to hell!
Many are walking the wide path for they are following a false god!
The world we are living is satanic! Nobody wants to listen! Everybody thinks they know it better than God! Everybody wants to be God! It wrong! It’s wrong! Fire is awaiting! Wake up! Wake up!
God’s name is not jesus! The names in The Scripture (today we call it The Holy Bible) are added and changed!
He is God! Do not identify Him with a name just as we identify humans with names!
God’s name = God’s nature!
Wear His nature! He wants you to cast out demons! He wants you to heal the sick! He wants you to preach the Good News!
You must wear His name! How?? (MATTHEW/MARK/LUKE/JOHN)
The Good News gives you access to The Kingdom of God! It is eternal life! Forever with God!
Satan is also creating his kingdom! Has! This is his kingdom! He is the angel of light! All have been deceived and are being deceived deeper into the abyss! God does not have long hair with blue eyes! All you see around you is the satan’s devices! All! Religion! Systems! All I mean all!
I won’t be here for long! Please! Search for The Truth! God is awaiting for your answer!
MERCY!
He, who we know as Jesus Christ (not his real name), is The Word of God.
He is;
The Son of God.
The Law of God.
The Spirit of God.
The Voice of God.
The Word of God.
“He is The Word of God.”
Revelation 19:13
nothing has been explained
Please read the replies to the comment above yours, by Saved By_Grace. I love you, duguoqing84
A person cannot explain a contradiction.
@@vilicus77 Indeed!
Contradiction by nature is illogical and Explanation by nature seeks to provide a logical understanding.
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
RSV
Only-monos
God-theos
Monos theos
Monotheism
The Father
Jesus is the one the true God (the Father) sent!
Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
Jesus has a God!
Jesus died!
God can’t die!
God raised Jesus from the dead!
I been reading a lot of comments about the Trinity, and you're right, no one explained nothing. I'm going to explain it for you.
All I ask is that you check all that I say before you make a comment.
The three names are three keys to a lock.
The lock is to the door to his kingdom.
You have never heard this before because it has been kept a secret till the end times. Its been over 2000 years and no one has been able to Sovle the mysteries.
It's because everyone has the names wonge
In the name of the father, Melchizedek.
(Hebrew 7:1-3)
First his name means King of Righteousness, then also King of Peace.
Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of Life, like the son of God he remains forever.
In the name of the son Immanuel.
(Isaiah 7:14)
The Lord himself will give you a sign;
and "he" will call him Immanuel.
(Matt.1:21)
And they will call him Immanuel, means God with us.
Jesus said, (John14:15-14)
I will ask the father and he will send you another counselor to be with you forever,
The spirit of truth.
(John 16:13)
But when he, the spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth.
The Spirit is Truth.
Who is "he"?
The our prayer says that Holy is his name.
His name and truth.
The Holy Spirit.
(Daniel 10:21)
(Daniel12:13)
Daniel was told what was written in the book of truth and will rise up at the end times.
Daniel knows the truth and will rise up at the end times.
Daniel is "his" name.
You didn't know him cause it wasn't time yet. We are close to the end.
In the name of the father Melchizedek.
In the name of the son Immanuel.
In the name of the holy spirit Daniel.
One God in three.
You see, Immanuel and Jesus, father and son in one body
Now three.
(John 5:43)
I have come in my father's name, and you do not accept me, but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him. Jesus was subpose to be named Immanuel, his father's name, cause it means, God with us. You do not accept me. Because you choose the name Jesus.
But if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him. Daniel is the holy spirit, I am Daniel. I am "He".
I come in the name Immanuel, God is with me.
Jesus said, beware of those who come in my name claiming, I am he, and will deceive many.
Who comes in the name Jesus, claiming Jesus is the Christ?
You see, he knew that his name was to be Immanuel.
In the name Jesus you worship in vain.
Go, go check out all that I have shared.
If it makes since then I did good. So far no one beleives. I have only told you, that I am he. If you believe, I can show you where his kingdom is hidden.
Do you want the answer ?
You want to understand, read the bible.
We have more muslims memorizing the quran by heart from start to end than you guys have people who read the bible from start to end, once you read it you can read quran two, and you will understand the only reasonable answer, which is there is only one god.
Jesus is king
@@cheekibreeki6874 Jesus is a beloved prophet ♥️
Islam shows the world the truth of Isa (peace be upon him).
@@TheGuiltsOfUs That monster, Mohammed was too busy sleeping with little girls & beheading Jews & robbing caravans & selling black slaves & degrading women as "half-wits" to be spreading peace.
He is an enemy of Jesus & everything Jesus stood for.
"OMINOUS IMPRESSION" - YOU ARE WELL NAMED! 🙄
NOT bloody Allah of course, but there is only ONE God.
Real Christians read the Bible through on a regular basis, end to end, year upon year.
Muslims CHANT & memorise an Arabic they cannot understand. Nor do they care to.
They mindlessly regurgitate its sloppy amalgam of other religions & folk tales "inspired" by it's illiterate Paedo-Prophet, and then run to the Imam when they hear what Mohammed was ACTUALLY LIKE!
On ONE thing you are right;
If "You want to understand, read the Bible."
How could three fully different things be the same thing at the same time???
Trinity lemme introduce myself.
@Raj Singh Thank you Raj, there were certainly some scales falling off reading this. Praise be to God who gives wisdom and understanding to all those who truly seek Him. GodBless.
the doctrine of the Trinity DOES NOT SAY THAT THREE ARE ONE.... that is an extraordinarily common mistake, I know, but completely missing the subject - the doctrine of the Trinity says: there ARE TRULY three distinct personal identities in the one being we call God, who are inseparable and co-eternal, each one possessing the full essence of the infinitely perfect God
@@silveriorebelo8045 This is clearly a polytheistic doctrine is not it? And the Old Testament clarified that God is one. Is there a contradiction?
@@فهدالسليم-ت9ج . Jesus, the father, and the holy spirit all holds the title of god. They all work in conjunction with eachother. It's different parts of the same machine I guess.
If you want to understand the Trinity go to The Lord's Day Ministry. God gave me a revelation that perfectly explains it.
I challenge any Christian to debate me on the trinity. Since you’re all so knowledgeable that shouldn’t be a problem
What do you mean debate you on the Trinity? The doctrine of the Trinity was debated at great lengths in the early Christian church against the heretics.
@@doctor1alex then it shouldnt be a problem for you to debate me on the trinity
@@ArdaMachtPara I'm saying it's already been debated. Go back and look at the debates that lead to Nicaea. People who deny the doctrine are believing heresy.
Where would I find that information that led to those debates? Is it under flat earth doctrines or perhaps "what is the firmament?"
No, really; I'd like to research this.
there is not, and never exists and never will exist, a single person on the planet earth who can explain the inexplicable paganism camouflaged as monotheism. simply
La ilaha illAllah
Muhammad Rasul Allah
WHAT'S THE NAME OF ALLAH❓
Allah Means GOD In Arabic. But, Allah Is Not Yahweh & Jesus Christ Is Not A Son Of Allah. Jesus Christ Is A Son Of Yahweh 💯👍. Based On The Quran, Allah Is A Jinn. Father Of 3 Daughters (Read Quran Properly) 💯👍
Eg:- Surah Safat 37:149, Surah Safat 37:158, Surah Al Bagra 2:165, Surah Ibrahim 14:30
🔺 IT'S ONLY SOME OF THE EXAMPLES
END ISLAM☪️🚫
BUT, I Respect And Love All Religious & Non-Religious People. But, I Never Respect Islam Religion (Satanic Version). Because, It's Dangerous For The Entire World 💯👍.
MAY GOD BLESS YOU ❤️
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@@njnikusha is that your mom
So, later when we are in the heaven,, who will rule? Is it the father? The son or the holy spirit?
They are One.
@@henreeeef3214
Not "It"
But "HE"
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send HIM unto you. And when HE is come, HE will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when HE, the Spirit of truth, is come, HE will guide you into all truth: for HE shall not speak of HIMSELF; but whatsoever HE shall hear, that shall HE speak: and HE will shew you things to come. HE shall glorify me: for HE shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that HE shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
Since when has somebody called you an "It"?? Assuming that henreee is a "him".
John 16:7-8, 11-15 KJV
@@henreeeef3214 Do you know what a spirit is? What a ghost is?
@@henreeeef3214 That is the Hebrew meaning true enough. Now here is Jesus who came to us as an actual Hebrew.
And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you. But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a SPIRIT. Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a SPIRIT hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
Luke 24:36-37, 39 KJV
Jesus in the shape and form of a man proved that he was of flesh. Yet they thought he was a ghost (PERSON) in the form of a man.
Again----What have I to do with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I implore[c] You by God that You do not torment me.”
8For He said to HIM, “Come out of the man, unclean spirit!” 9Then He asked HIM, “What is your NAME?”
And HE answered, saying, “My NAME is Legion; for we are many.” 10Also HE begged Him earnestly that He would not send them out of the country.
---" We are many".. They are ONE inside the man as "LEGION" as their NAME. Spirits aren't "It's". They are beings. Legion HEARD, SPOKE and PRECONCEIVED of whom Jesus was/is.
Adam was made a living soul
but Jesus a quickening SPIRIT, Were to worship the Father in spirit and in truth bc the father is SPIRIT. The Holy Ghost is Spirit. AND THESE THREE ARE ONE. Which is why we're to be baptized in "The Name" of all three, to be ONE with the three as Jesus said.
Thank you for your explanation. However, I find the water explanation (solid, liquid, gas) is much simpler.
THIS VIDEO IS FALSE, THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD, NOT 3 PERSONS, MODERN CHRISTIANITY HAS BECOME PAGANISM AT ITS FINEST
modalism is an heresy
Any use of an analogy is in fact an admiring that the Bible is not helpful in showing any trinity?
Just a thought.
@@cam0987 True christians believe in only one true God - John 17:3. Trinitarians believe in 3 gods, no matter how they try to explain it - they are not christian.