@@TheKmilo2695 all the good stuff. Like reading the bible after masturbating to porn, telling people about Jesus without knowing him, stealing, lying, actually believing to be a born again Christian, to mention a few. Just like Jeremiah said: "The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?" Jesus saved me. Now I can finally call myself a true child of God
@Christus Mea Lux May we always fall into the arms of our Lord so we don't have to give in to fleshly lusts and temptations. God bless You (And better to become a Christian with 50 than never)
What about the one Jesus came to lead you to? He said "I am the way, the truth and the life, no one can come to the FATHER, accept by me!) John 14:6. Have you come to the father through Jesus? "I am thr door" said, so have you walked through the door to his father?
Understanding the Trinity is different to believing in the Trinity. I believe that God is God the Father God the Son and God the Holy Spirit and they are one, but I can’t claim to understand how that Trinity works- it beyond my comprehension.
@@bobwellington7580 *JESUS IS GOD* second person of the Trinity Hebrews 1:8 - The Father calls Jesus God 2 Peter 1:1 - Peter calls him God John 20:28 - Thomas calls him God Isaiah 9:6 - Jesus is called Everlasting Father and Mighty God! John 1:1 - The Word was God John 1:18 - Jesus is called the only God, at the Father’s side. Praise God 😊✝️
Trinity math. Each member has a different purpose but different roles. Man's math 1+1+1=3 but when it comes to the Trinity each aspect of each individual member of the Trinity is infinite in ever character and ability so you end up with the math equation of infinity + infinity + infinity = infinity. Since each member is infinite with the same purpose and desire you can never increase the value or separate them as three Gods. They have the same value and purpose together or apart as one infinite God.
I quite like the way John Piper answered this question. If someone is teaching seriously wrong ideas about the Trinity, genuine believers should sense that something isn't right, even if they are not able to clearly articulate the doctrine of the Trinity. I think a lot of genuine Christians have a very faulty understanding of the Trinity. But if someone is a genuine believer and they pray and examine this topic, the Spirit will lead them towards truth and away from error. I don't think many of the first Christians would have had a clear understanding of the Trinity, but they wouldn't have held views that sharply contradicted this.
In Acts 2 thousands of Jews converted & worshipped the Triune God, Yahweh, because they were already Binatarian. The Jewish "Two Powers" theology wasn't ruled a heresy (by the rabbis) until around 100 A.D. Too many binatarian Jews were converting to trinitarian Christianity so the rabbis made changes to the doctrine.
Once the biblical doctrine is clarified to the person, s/he may reject it. At that point, the person is either worshipping the one true Triune God who revealed Himself in the pages of Scripture ...or worshipping a false, non-trinune deity.
I recently heard an explanation that makes some sense. It stated that the use of "im" attached to a word in Hebrew indicates a plural meaning. Like "seraph" = angel, "seraphim" = angels. So the Hebrew name "Elohim" which is used for God indicates that He consists of more than one part. Father, Son, Spirit.
If I could sum up what was said at the end there, I believe Pastor John is saying that we shouldn't spend much time focusing on the minimal things (debating about what foods to eat, clothing etc.) but teach others about the crucial things of Scripture to build biblical faith (Salvation in Christ alone, The Trinity, Faith, Love etc.)
My best understanding of the Trinity is based on the metaphor of the tetrahedron. It has four sides, representing how the one God reveals himself as God, Father, Son, Spirit. We serve one God. If you hold a tetrahedron in your hand, you hold one object, representing the One God. The distinctiveness of the persons is preserved since the one object has four facets. The distinct facets are also part of the integral whole while yet being separate. If the tetrahedron is made of transparent glass, you can look through one facet and across to see a different facet facing the inside. This explains how Jesus could say to Phillip, if you have seen me (looking through the transparent Jesus facet), you have seen the Father, (the Father facet). A perfect metaphorical illustration of the Trinity can be found in a transparent glass tetrahedron. Easy... God presents himself as each separate facet singly, or as a combination of facets. For example, if you hold the object so you are looking directly down on it, you will see three facets, Father, Son, Spirit. This is how God presents himself at Jesus’ baptism: Jesus in the water, the Father speaking from heaven, and the Holy Spirit descending as a dove, all three present, yet distinct at the same time. Another example is when Jesus was praying the high priestly prayer in the garden. There, the object is turned to show two facets, the Father and the Son. There are fourteen such combinations of facets that reveal God in the scriptures. (P) What about Jehovah of the O.T.? The name Jehovah is so holy that people of New Testament times never used that word. Instead, they used the word, "Lord". These days, Jews will say, "hashem", the "Name", or the "tetragrammaton", or some other substitute word. When a Christian confesses that "Jesus is Lord" at baptism, they are actually saying, "Jesus is Jehovah". Jehovah went through kenosis and came to earth as a helpless baby so he could die on the cross for our salvation.
No, you do not have to believe in the trinity to be saved. Simply know that in God's sight you are a sinner deserving of hell. Trust that Jesus suffered and died paying the penalty for you, that what He did was totally sufficient. Then grow in grace and the knowledge of Him. The understanding of the trinity will come as you study with an open mind. Before salvation we are spiritually blind, only after salvation does God open up to us the mystery of His Word.
I think your point is a good one. If someone professes Christian faith and then later rejects the doctrine of the Trinity, that is not a good sign that they are genuine.
@@maxaplin4204 It was a couple of months until I believed Jesus is God as well as the Son of God, and it was Thomas's answer to Jesus in John 20:28 & 29 And Thomas answered and said unto him, "My Lord and my God." it was the next verse which cemented it for me. I knew if Thomas had it wrong then Jesus would rebuke him immediately. So I read the next verse carefully. Jesus said unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. Here was the Bible speaking directly to me. "blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed!" I hadn't seen, but I BELIEVED! This was revealed after three days of fasting, praying and reading. I knew from that moment on, I could trust God and His Word to reveal truth to me. It was now settled in my mind. I got up and had something to eat and then opened my Bible to the Palms and read; Psalm 131:2 Surely I have behaved and quieted myself, as a child that is weaned of his mother: my soul is even as a weaned child. I was rejoicing, praising Jesus as God. He had opened my eyes to Himself and also informed me that I no longer needed milk, but could trust Him in everything. It was very easy after that to understand the Holy Spirit was also God. That is why I said what I said in my first post. It is possible to be saved yet not know Jesus is God. However God does not want us to remain ignorant, He wants us to grow in grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ our Lord.
You don’t? Explain. You said God the Father, Jesus - so you are saying you don’t have to believe the Holy Spirit? You stated your opinion but let’s keep biblical.
I don’t think I will never understand the trinity doctrine. I’ve been on a quest I don’t know how long...I left Catholic to join the Jehovah Witnesses thinking that they had the answer regarding who God is..after more than a decade in that religion I Recently left so disappointed. Nothing else but Antichrist. I do believe Jesus Christ is the son of God and has the same nature with His Father. Is 9:6 calls him mighty God. So I do believe that. My problem is the explanation given for the Holy Spirit as a distinct person and also God. So far I can only see the Holy Spirit as God’s Spirit since God is Spirit..multiple times in the Bible they mention the Son seated next to the Father but never mentioned the Holy Spirit. I’ll keep studying. I left the Witnesses @ a great cost because I love truth. I’m confident that my Holy Father will reveal the truth to me.
Hey I just read your message! It's terrible that the Jehovah Witnesses are anti-Christs if what you are saying is true. Have you tried going to a regular Protestant church? I would recommend taking special time to praying to FATHER God, so that you know him better. I would also recommend getting baptized in the FATHER, THE SON AND THR HOLY SPIRIT, as well as inviting the Holy Spirit into your life!
Hi there. I also don't believe the trinity is biblical. It led me to start studying with the Jehovahs Witnesses, it took me a few weeks before I realised it wasn't teaching the truth either. I kept praying and seeking God and God started to lead me to his truth. Checkout the page below, it explains biblically who's spirit the Holy Spirit is and where it comes from. www.end-times-prophecy.org/holy-spirit-jesus.html
Amen. Keep seeking God and he will guide your steps to the truth. I too left the witnesses so I know how it feels, at the end of the day love for the truth triumps. God bless you
Jesus words to a Samaritan woman at John 4:22-24 " Salvation originates with the Jews, WE worship what we KNOW, you worship what you do not know". He then went on to say that the true worshipers will worship THE FATHER in spirit and truth According to Jesus then the Jews knew the one whom they worshipped unlike the Samaritans. The Jews were not then and are not now trinitarian. True Christians will worship the FATHER in spirit and truth Mark 12:28-30
“By the word of the Lord the heavens were made, and by the breath of his mouth all their host.” Psalm 33:6 ESV “And God SAID, “Let there be light,” and there was light.” Genesis 1:3 ESV You believe God spoke the world into existence. So why can’t you comprehend that God’s WORD was made flesh? Yeshua (Jesus) is the ‘Torah made flesh.’ He came to show us how to fulfill/keep the law of God.
'Adonai Yahweh says this: Woe to the women who sew coverings on all the joints of My hands, and who make headbands for the head of every man of high rank in order to - ensnare lives! You ensnare the lives of My people, but you save alive the lives of those who come to you. And will profane Me among My people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, by your lying to My people who hear your lies that the people would not be killed, and to promise life to those who should not live? Therefore Adonai Yahweh says this: See now, I am against your coverings with which you hunt the lives there to make them escape, and I will tear them from your arms, and I will let the people go, the people whom you ensnare to make them escape. I will also tear your headbands, and deliver My people out of your hand, and they will be no more in your hand to be ensnared, and you will know that I am Yahweh." '
John 1:1 says: 'In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.' There is a bit of a riddle here to begin John's Gospel. How can the Word BE God and also BE WITH God? The answer is that the New Testament uses the word 'God' in 2 different ways. Sometimes it refers to God the Father, the first Person of the Trinity, in distinction from the second and third persons of the Trinity. And sometimes it refers to God as a divine Being without thinking about the persons of the Trinity. In John 1:1 the word 'God' is used once in each of these ways. Here is the sentence again with additions in square brackets to show the meaning: 'In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God [i.e., God the Father], and the Word was God [i.e., the divine Being that is God].' There is no confusion or contradiction in this verse.
There's no riddle there. Read verse 14, Then the WORD became FLESH, and dwelt among us (Jesus) and we beheld HIS glory, the glory as of the only begotten OF THE FATHER, full of grace and truth.
The Holy Spirit is also referred to as God. Peter saying to Ananias, in chapter five of Acts, "Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God."
Born 2 Win yeah based on the context, I agree with you, Jesus is God. Jesus even said of Him & His Father: “I and My Father are one.” Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?” The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”” John 10:30-33 The Jews knew right there He claimed to be God, that’s what the stones were for. Jesus continues: “Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’? If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me; but if I do, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, that you may know and believe that the Father is in Me, and I in Him.”” John 10:34-38 V.38 is revealing of His response to the Jews that He is in fact professing diety.
@@born2win259 I think maybe 'riddle' isn't the right word. But there is a kind of paradox in the Word's being with God and also being God. It grabs our attention.
@@carljones8334 In my initial comment I said that in the NT the word 'God' (Greek: theos) sometimes refers specifically to God the Father and sometimes it refers to God as a divine being without thinking about the persons of the Trinity. I think that in Acts 5:4, which you quote, it's referring to the latter of these two meanings, to God simply viewed as a divine being. V. 3 says that Ananias has lied to the Holy Spirit. But I think in v. 4, when it says that he has lied to God, I don't think 'God' is still concentrating specifically on the Holy Spirit. Instead, I think the reference has broadened to now concentrate on God without reference to the persons of the Trinity. I do see an implication in Acts 5:3-4 of the divinity of the Holy Spirit. But I don't think the word 'God' is a specific reference to the person of the Holy Spirit parallel to the way John 1:1 specifically uses the word 'God' as a reference to God the Father.
Greetings. If this helps anyone...Many years ago, I did not realize it at the time, I was in a church that believed in the Trinity, but they actually believed in a thing called Tritheism. This view radically demotes the Son and believes HE was NOT God while in the Flesh and also believes in Three Gods. There was this night I had, an attack from the enemy, where I suddenly did not know which God to pray to. Over time even elsewhere I thought, do people take a Sharpie pen and cross out John 14:14? I can say much here, but to keep this shorter, I waited on God to show me The Truth. I can honestly say, over many, many years, I see more and more in Scripture. However, I started to notice things, such as people telling me that if I did NOT deny Isaiah 9:6 (that is, Everlasting Father or Eternal Father) my salvation was at stake. I told them I would never deny this verse or make it mean something else. (I have even seen a children's Bible have a note therein by that text and say that HE was "Like" a Father. I cannot help but wonder what that does to a child and their faith to have something like that in their Bible that insists on reinventing that verse. Other things I have noticed: Preachers at the pulpit telling their congregation that the Father raised the Son from the dead, but they NEVER tell them what the Son said in John 2:19-21...that is, Destroy this temple and in three days "I" will raise it up. I am not saying that they do NOT mean the same thing, for we have Gal. 1:1 to compare that to, of course. It means the same thing. But to me, a key verse is Isaiah 40:3, for this verse tells us Who Came in the Flesh, and it is quoted in all Four Gospels at least to some degree. In Isaiah 40:3 in most English Translations, I believe, tells us that it is LORD and God in that one verse. That is Who came in the Flesh. And here is the thing: LORD means Yahweh, Jehovah, Yehovah, I AM, etc. and in Matthew 28:19 the NAME is Jesus, which in Hebrew is Yeshua, which means, Saviour, LORD is Salvation, and some believe it to mean more precisely, LORD has become our Salvation. Thereby, in the various places in the Book of Acts, in all cases where they mentioned how they baptized it was all in the Name of Jesus. Here is the Big question if one thinks not: Were the Disciples disobedient to the Lord Jesus Christ in Matthew 28:19? AND in the Greek, the "word" NAME, is clearly defined as NAME, but I see people changing the NAME in Scripture to be authority or representative, etc. But I think that is wrong per the importance of "Name" in the Greek. So, in a lot of current translations one can still find Name in John 5:43 and John 10:25 and in John 17:11--- That the Name of Jesus is the Name of the Father, and pertaining to the Holy Spirit, HE comes in the Name too....and of course we have John 4, where the Son refers to the Father as a Spirit God is Spirit, and the Last Adam is called a Life Giving Spirit or a Quickening Spirit. Some people say that there are over 70 places in the OT where God tells us there is no other or He is the only God, etc. But one may ask, why it was SO IMPORTANT for people to believe that God came n the Flesh....for one...HE came to fulfill all that was required, such as various Blood Covenants. In the OT if one made a Blood Covenant and one broke it, they had to die. Moses and his people made a Blood covenant with God, basically the Law Contract. And the thing is, they could not keep the Law perfectly, and we too are in the same boat. So, God came in the Flesh to die in our place. What we deserved fell upon HIM. HE laid His life down willingly and took it up again. But on the Cross HE did more than that. The Sabbath Rest resulted from His people being freed from slavery, and God had to be strict so the day of rest could be maintained...to know that today, Jesus became our REST (and Freedom). There is more. I believe that God died on the Cross, and I think it is what is called the Mystery of Godliness. The One Who used His Own Blood to begin a New Covenant of Mercy and Grace. I stand in awe of all the glorious things that are revealed in the Bible. God bless you all in Jesus' Name.
Think this needs a longer talk and sit down, but I think I understand. It comes down to accepting Christ, then you have fellowship with the Father and God the Spirit.
Take your time. It's difficult for a finite human to attempt to comprehend infinite God. Using your Bible, slowly go through some Old Testament passages and you'll begin to see the Trinity in the Tanahk (Hebrew Bible), as well as the NT. For example, who was in the burning bush? Who led the Hebrews out of Egypt? Who wrestled with Jacob? Who was present when Moses was in the cleft of the rock?
@@IndianaJoe0321 Wow that's amazing to think about, I usually go to the NT, but that's true. For instance when God said "I AM" in the OT, Jesus repeated the same words in reference to Himself.
I dont believe a man can understand the precise nature of God. And say that you can understand the mystery of Gods nature feels arrogant for me... but thats just my thoughts.
@Christopher Felix believing in a false Jesus (a non divine Jesus) does not save. Only faith in Jesus Christ, Who the Son of God and God the Son, can save you.
@@EM-fp3wi we don't say we understand everything about Trinity, rather, we recognize God as a Father and also a Son, and also the Spirit. Born again Christian born of the Spirit cannot reject his Father and the Son who saved him and also the Spirit who enlightened the eyes of his heart. If one does not recognize these, then.. the Spirit has not revealed and opened his eyes yet, and therefore not saved yet...
You certainly don't "comprehend" everything about & within the oceans, @@EM-fp3wi. Yet, you can at least "apprehend" the oceans. In the same way, a true born-again believer may never fully "comprehend" the Trinity, yet today the child of God can at least "apprehend" the Trinity.
Interestingly, the verses that were used are are general (generic, if you like) for both trinitarians and non-trinitarians. Of course we all believe in Jesus. One scripture that he avoided was John 17:3, where in Jesus OWN WORDS, says that to have eternal life one must know the ONLY true God, but also the Son of God, alluding to two distinct persons, God the Father, and the SON of God, Jesus. So yes, the scriptures are clear that to have eternal life, we must belief in one true God and his Son, NOT THREE IN ONE.
The Bible says that the Father is God; that Jesus is God; and that the Holy Spirit is God. At the same time, it also says that there is only one God. Who am I, a mere human, to question these truths? All I have to do is to accept these truths. And so I accept it all, as I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior. May God bless who reads this.
The Bible says that the Father is God; that Jesus is God; and that the Holy Spirit is God. At the same time, it also says that there is only one God. Who am I, a mere human, to question these truths? All I have to do is to accept these truths. And so I accept it all, as I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior. May God bless who reads this.
@@harveygitarista1600 You said “who I’m I to question these truths” Well We are entitled to ask questions, the Disciples of Christ did it very often; Now in Deuteronomy 6:4 “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord” this(if you didn’t know) is the foundational text used by Trinitarians to support a Triune(three) God putting emphasis on “ONE” but when you carefully read this in context it doesn’t, here’s how: first thing first we must know and understand Who said or Who spoke these words of Deut 6:4, well Deuteronomy chapter 5 reveals this; Deuteronomy 5:1-2 “And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them. [2] The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb” It was Moses who was speaking and notice he says the exact same thing he said in Deut 6:4 “Hear O Israel” & “The Lord our God” Now later in Chapter 5 Moses says this in reference to the “Lord thy God” Deuteronomy 5:22-24 “These words the Lord spake unto all your assembly in the mount out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the thick darkness, with a great voice: and HE added no more. And HE wrote them in two tables of stone, and delivered them unto me. [23] And it came to pass, when ye heard the voice out of the midst of the darkness, (for the mountain did burn with fire,) that ye came near unto me, even all the heads of your tribes, and your elders; [24] And ye said, Behold, the LORD our God hath shewed us HIS glory and HIS greatness, and we have heard HIS voice out of the midst of the fire: we have seen this day that God doth talk with man, and he liveth.” Moses understanding of the Lord thy God is that He’s One Individual not Three notice he says “He” & “His”. Continuing on to Chapter 6 notice what Moses says prior to verse 4 and afterwards Deuteronomy 6:1-5 “Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the Lord your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it: [2] That thou mightest fear the Lord thy God, to keep all HIS statutes and HIS commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged. [3] Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do it; that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as the LORD God of thy fathers hath promised thee, in the land that floweth with milk and honey. [4] Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord[5] And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.” Again Moses says “HIS” denoting One as a single individual not a unity. if you read the whole chapter of Deuteronomy 6 you would see Moses understanding of his meaning of One. Now in Mark 12 A Scribe ask Jesus a question Mark 12:28-32 “And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? [29] And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: [30] And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. [31] And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. [32] And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but HE” Notice Jesus himself quoted Deuteronomy 6:4-5 in Mark 12:29-30 the Scribe says Christ has said the truth and his understanding of One is one person not a unity of one by saying “for there is one God; and there is none other but He” lastly in John 17 Christ praying to his Father says this John 17:1-3 “These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: [2] As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. [3] And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” When Christ said His Father is the Only True God he’s not saying he himself is not God but His Father is the Source of all life and all creation(Acts 17:24-25) that’s why Paul says in 1 Corinthians 8:6 “But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things…” Jesus reveals this fact that His Father is the source of life even his own divinity(divine life) John 5:26 “For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself” Notice the Father life in himself was given to his Son (Jesus) this is not referring to Christ humanity but his divinity, life in himself is a self-existence life.
“And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, AND Jesus Christ whom you have sent.” John 17:3 ESV God sent the Messiah. The Father is THE ONLY God.
It is right to say that God is one God in 3 persons. However, the English word 'persons' is not a perfect way of describing the individuals within the Trinity, but rather is the best word that the English language can come up with. We are dealing with profound truths far beyond human capacity to fully understand, where our language falls short of the ability to perfectly describe reality.
I don't like the word trinity. Its man's attempt to explain the infinite God. People have made it a doctrine. Instead of trying to use a simple word, how about learning the Word of God so you have an answer for every man from God's Word. If the Holy Spirit is teaching you, you'll understand the meaning of the scriptures and you won't have to rely on an oversimplified term that isn't even in the bible.
The Bible says that the Father is God; that Jesus is God; and that the Holy Spirit is God. At the same time, it also says that there is only one God. Who am I, a mere human, to question these truths? All I have to do is to accept these truths. And so I accept it all, as I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior. May God bless who reads this.
Just read 1Cor.8:4-6 ; 1Cor.11:3 and 1Cor.15:27-28 'One GOD in three Persons' is a false statement. 'One SPIRIT in three Entities' is a true statement. The Holy SPIRIT is in the FATHER of the spirits of light. Heb.12:9 Jam.1:17 The Holy SPIRIT is in the Angels as they are called Sons of GOD. Job.1:6 ; 2:1 The Holy SPIRIT is in the Believing Men, as they are called Sons of GOD. Phil.2:15 1Jn.3:1-2 The Testimony of JESUS - Jn.17:3 ; 18:37 All the apostles testified that JESUS was the MAN from Heaven (the MAN with the Holy SPIRIT). Jn.1:14 Matt.1:18-20 Lk.1:35 1Cor.15:47-49 We must accept the Testimony of JESUS given to us by the apostles and JESUS HIMSELF, and not continue to hold on to a false testimony of 'TRINITY' as passed down to us by the Catholic church.
@@ngdavid3925 -"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. " John 1:1 the Word became flesh in Jesus-"And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth." John 1:14 The Holy Spirit is God-"3 But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back some of the price of the land? 4 While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not under your control? Why is it that you have conceived this deed in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God.” Acts 5 Thus we have the Trinity.
I have a question. And this is an honest question. So I have been saved for a few years, but don't fully identify with the Trinitarian belief, nor do I fully identify with the Modalist belief, Biblical Unitarian belief, or Binitarian belief. There was a time where I did believe and defend the Trinity, but now I'm just not sure about what doctrine to believe about God. I've listened to several debates on the subjects and have referred to scripture so many times that I can't even count, and yet I can't come to a single conclusion as to what the Bible teaches on the subject. I've heard many convincing arguments from several angles of this grand debate, but I just can't find a decisive conclusion. And every time I think I come to a conclusion, I start doubting it and can't seem to stick with it for very long anyway. I just can't find the truth when viewing the entire debate. And it's not that I deny the Trinity, I really don't, but I just can't come to a decisive conclusion and I'm worried that I never will. But yet, I believe in Jesus Christ, confessing with my mouth that he is Lord, believing in my heart that he died for my sins and that God the Father rose him from the dead. Not to mention I am currently in the process of fully repenting of my sins. It's hard, but it is working. If I were to die right now, (that's not a threat of suicide, I just mean hypothetically speaking) do you think I am still saved? Or did I lose my salvation? Someone please help me?
The Trinity is an essential doctrine to believe however REALITY is; No human being that has sinned can ever comprehend God exhaustively. That's where faith comes in. The Trinity word is not in the Bible but it is DEFINITELY IMPLIED.
The Bible says that the Father is God; that Jesus is God; and that the Holy Spirit is God. At the same time, it also says that there is only one God. Who am I, a mere human, to question these truths? All I have to do is to accept these truths. And so I accept it all, as I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior. May God bless who reads this.
The bible states a number a factors necessary for salvation including repentance from sin and faith in the ransom sacrifice of Jesus Christ . Christians must believe Jesus is the SON of God and accept him as their Lord and King. If it were necessary to believe that Jesus Is God the Son which is the way Trinitarians seem to understand this phrase I'm sure our loving Father would have made this clear. Jesus told a Samaritan woman at John 4:22-24 "Salvation originates with the Jews we worship what we KNOW." he then went on to say that the TRUE worshipers will worship the FATHER in spirit and truth. According to Jesus the non trinitarian Jews knew what they worshipped and the TRUE worshipers will worship the FATHER.
@@aksk5770 what does it mean to be the Son of God though (not referring to those who are adopted in) but THE Son of God? Surely a divine nature! If every head will bow someday, that’s rather sacrilegious if He is a mere human. Or even a mere angel, etc.
@@rach9466 Hi Rach I would agree with you that Jesus THE SON of God is of a divine nature . The fact that he is God's Son tells us something about him and his Father. If two identical twins were to come to my door and one twin claimed to be the Father of the other I would think something very strange was going on. We expect a Father to be older and more experienced than a son. A Son learns from his father and often reflects the qualities and personality of the Father . I believe the father Jehovah is older than the Son Jesus. Jesus was the beginning of the creation by God his first born only begotten son, all things were created through him and for him. All things will be subject to him and to him every knee will bend. Jesus is God's SON not his brother When Jesus was asked how to pray he said you must pray this way "our FATHER in heaven" he also referred to his Father as my God and the only true God (John 17:3). Is it necessary to believe the trinity doctrine for salvation? I don't think Moses ,David, Daniel or Jeremiah believed the trinity doctrine, they certainly didn't think it important enough to put in their writings. Worship the God of the Bible their God Jehovah then you really can't go wrong 🙂❤️
John 1:1 speaks about God and the Word which is the Son of God but no mention of the Holy Spirit being there in the beginning so how can there be a Trinity? Trinity doctrine is Not! Biblical
Doesn’t “according to the scriptures” referenced twice in those verses imply the want and need to understand God’s Word(the scriptures) as the only way for us to understand God’s character, ie. theology? If you don’t know the God who saved you, what exactly are you confessing? Not to say you will ever grasp the understanding of God, but obedience to Him demands seeking His face, which is a condition of the heart only God can judge.
Sir you do believe in multiple Gods, if you say God the Father God the Son and God the Holy Spirit that’s three Gods not One, also in Mark Jesus and Scribe both agreed that the One God of all things was “He” one person which is the Father not a unity of three
Sir think on what you are saying, when you say Spirit of God how can you say it’s another divine person? it’s plainly telling you who the Spirit belongs to and that’s God same as Spirit of Christ that Spirit belongs to Christ not someone else
I will also say this; If the God of the Bible was easy to understand, I wouldn't be interested. Any God that can be comprehended by my feeble mind is too small, too impotent, and too boring for me. Only absolute perfection can interest me because everything else is just a dim shadow.
The Bible says that the Father is God; that Jesus is God; and that the Holy Spirit is God. At the same time, it also says that there is only one God. Who am I, a mere human, to question these truths? All I have to do is to accept these truths. And so I accept it all, as I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior. May God bless who reads this.
1 Timothy 2:5, NLT: "For there is only one God and one Mediator who can reconcile God and humanity-- Christ Jesus" The Bible is clear. Christ is not God
The Bible says that the Father is God; that Jesus is God; and that the Holy Spirit is God. At the same time, it also says that there is only one God. Who am I, a mere human, to question these truths? All I have to do is to accept these truths. And so I accept it all, as I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior. May God bless who reads this.
The Bible says that the Father is God; that Jesus is God; and that the Holy Spirit is God. At the same time, it also says that there is only one God. Who am I, a mere human, to question these truths? All I have to do is to accept these truths. And so I accept it all, as I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior. May God bless who reads this.
I think some people really make this to be much difficult than it really is. God is the creator of all things Heaven and Earth. He sent his only begotten Son to die for the sins of the world (Jesus). When Jesus ascended back to Heaven he left his "helper" The Holy Spirit, which is what dwells in us. You could interpret it in any way. Sometimes some people say God dwells in me, or Jesus Dwells in me.
Jesus didn't "leave His Helper;" that is not in Scripture. "“But when the Counselor comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will bear witness of Me."" ~ John 15:26 The Holy Spirit is sent by Jesus, from the Father; the Spirit proceeds from the Father.
@@IndianaJoe0321 'Helper' and 'Counselor' are both reasonable translations of the Greek word Parakletos. Christians disagree on whether the Spirit proceeds from the Father alone or from the Father and the Son. I think the latter view is probably the better one.
You got that part right. Except you missed the full gospel message. So yes we need to make it a big deal. It is. It’s the gospel message from God about His Son. God is holy Man is a sinner. Jesus is the Savior Repent and believe. You left out too much.
But you need to understand who the Jesus is that you are crying out to. In 2 John 1:7-9 we read about people who deny that Jesus is human and are said not to have God. They presumably would have cried out to Jesus, but they wouldn't have been saved. It is possible that something similar may sometimes be true about those who deny the Trinity.
He is saying, @@BrotherTris, that God is Triune. If a person refuses to worship the one, true Triune God, Yahweh, then s/he is worshipping a false deity. In other words, Jesus is Yahweh in the flesh. He is 100% God and, at the same time, 100% human.
Jesus christ created man in his image, body, soul and spirit (life)as one person with a name Adam, Jesus Christ is one God, the farther is the divine conscience/wisdom of Jesus christ, Jesus Christ is the infinite spirit, breath of life, the eternal spirit, living water of life, in the Jesus christ the fullness of the Diety lives in bodily form in the body of Jesus christ, the lamb on the throne of God, Jesus Christ never said that the holy spirit and I are one. Question, did the holy spirit ever kill a person? As God is the savior.
The (trinity) is not only a vain, perverse, idle, corrupt, filthy word of confusion not found in the holy scriptures, it is a doctrine of devils and damnable heresy. These 3 names are the names of the Holy One: Jesus the Almighty everlasting Father: 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Acts 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. Isaiah 45: [21] Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. [22] Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. [23] I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; Ephesians 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. Job 13: [8] Will ye accept his person? will ye contend for God? [9] Is it good that he should search you out? or as one man mocketh another, do ye so mock him? [10] He will surely reprove you, if ye do secretly accept persons. John 14: [8] Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. [9] Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 1 John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. John 8: [24] I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. [25] Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning. [26] I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him. [27] They understood not that he spake to them of the Father. John 20: [28] And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. [29] Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. Revelation 1: [7] Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. [8] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
The question: Do i need to Understand the Trinity to Be Saved? Here is the answer: Absolutely not! First, one is saved by grace and not by their own intellectual understanding! We saved by Christ's atoning sacrifice, but we must accept it by repenting from sin and trusting in Christ. Adding anything else to this would be adding requirements to salvation. In fact, we will not understand everything about God! In the book of Job, God should him many wonders about the world that Job did not know about. However, Job was still righteous in the sight of God! God's infinite being transcends time, space, and matter. People were saved even before the New Testament period. Were they saved by their knowledge of the New Testament? OF COURSE NOT. We are saved by God's grace after we repent and trust in Christ. Nothing more nothing less. We should not add to scripture or take away from scripture. It becomes clear in scripture that the Holy Spirit, the Father, and the Son are all God. We can have trust in this because it is God's character who we trust in His Word. I have seen people add to this by saying that you must understand the trinity. However, this is not correct for the reasons stated above.
@@joshuatheo1419 You are correct. However, scripture states what it means to know the true Jesus. Hebrews 8:10-12: 10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 11 None of them shall teach his neighbor, and none his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them. 12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins [a]and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.” When Abraham was credited to him as righteous. He did so by faith in Christ even though he did not know "Jesus" yet because he was already born again by the mercy of Christ. We do not need to know all the mysteries of God to have Trust and faith in Jesus Christ. We simply must repent from sin and trust in the mercy of Christ.
“Jesus is the Son of God which is Johns way of saying God the Son”... ummmm what? That is the problem with this doctrine, you make assumptions that are not true.
John 5:18 says that Jesus 'was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal to God.' So John's Gospel understands Jesus' sonship as a claim to divinity. In other words, in Johannine theology for Jesus to be the Son of God means that he is God. So what Piper said here isn't an assumption, and it seems to be correct.
@@maxaplin4204 Exactly, Jesus was God in the FLESH. Remember, that in IN the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was WITH GOD, and the WORD WAS GOD. If we go a bit lower to verse 14 it then says that the WORD became FLESH and DWELT AMONG US and WE beheld HIS glory, the glory as of the only begotten OF THE FATHER, full of grace and truth.
Who was in the burning bush, @@BrotherTris? Who led the Hebrews out of Egypt? Who was present when Moses was in the cleft of the rock? Using your Bible, please answer these questions.
@@BrotherTris The divinity of Jesus is a major New Testament theme. John 1:1 teaches it. Another verse that does so is John 20:28, where Thomas says to Jesus: 'My Lord and my God.' Yes, Jesus has a God, but he is fully human as well as fully divine. Many statements in Scripture apply to him in his human nature but not to him in his divine nature, and vice versa. So, Jesus in his human nature has a God. To deny the deity of Jesus, you have to explain away a great many texts.
@Danny Murdach all that is just saying that Christ was part of God or with God since the beginning. Everyone knows that well almost everyone. That does not say there's an Trinity
Since Jesus never mentioned the trinity' doctrine to his apostles ( elluding to it is not sufficient!) neither was it mentined by Paul, Peter, or James in the epistles, then does this mean that christian seekers had to waite till 300 years later to know anything about the trinity? This is rubbish! So early chrisitans were not saved'?Just a little history will tell you the 'trinity' was a very contraversial idea, and argued about for hundreds of years! It became the 'orthodox' creed by order not of sincere christians but pagan roman emperors. The bishops of the day were only too happy to emerge from the cattacombs and do a deal with the very nation that killed their own leader! It was total compromise & could in no way have received God's approval!
The Bible says that the Father is God; that Jesus is God; and that the Holy Spirit is God. At the same time, it also says that there is only one God. Who am I, a mere human, to question these truths? All I have to do is to accept these truths. And so I accept it all, as I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior. May God bless who reads this.
*JESUS IS GOD* second person of the Trinity Hebrews 1:8 - The Father calls Jesus God 2 Peter 1:1 - Peter calls him God John 20:28 - Thomas calls him God Isaiah 9:6 - Jesus is called Everlasting Father and Mighty God! John 1:1 - The Word was God John 1:18 - Jesus is called the only God, at the Father’s side. Praise God 😊✝️
According to Scriptures, there are ONLY two divine beings and not three: God, the Father, and His only-begotten Son; the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God and of the Son. The trinity god is a false pagan doctrine, and not of God. Jesus said, I quote, "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3) And apostle Paul said, I quote, "But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him." (1 Corinthians 8:6) Apostle John also said, I quote, "... He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son." (1 John 2:22.b)
Actually you need to REJECT the 'trinity' to be saved! Why ?because Everlasting life is the result of faith in the RANSOM SACRIFICE of our Lord Jesus Christ. The 'trinity' teaches that Jesus was just 'God incarnate' ( That is still fully God but 'clothed' with a human body! In fact he was conceived and born as a PERFECT MAN who died as a substitute for Adam ( 1 Tim 2:5) He really died! body & Soul and was resurrected on the third day! The 'trinity' is contrary to this biblical FACT! Eternal life comes tby believing that Jesus Christ is the SON OF GOD! ( John 20:31)
Sir, we ought to know what the Son is and why the term Son was used. Jesus was flesh and blood a body created for the redemption of mankind. Jesus name is the name given for the salavtion of mankind. This name remains only until the salivation age. Your explanation does not explain anything about the existence of trinity.
I love you John Piper and I am thankful for what I have learnt through your ministry. However, Jesus said the Father is the only true God John 17:3 There is no biblical reference to "God the Son". The eternal Spirit (word) of the Father was in the man Jesus Christ: ... how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without blemish to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? For this reason He is the mediator of a new covenant, so that, since a death has taken place for the redemption of the transgressions that were committed under the first covenant, those who have been called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. Hebrews 9:14-15 NASB Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation. 2 Corinthians 5:18-19 NASB I pray that through His Spirit, the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ will open your eyes to see the truly glory of his eternal plan revealed to us in His Son.
God does not hold you accountable for what you do not know. If you have been exposed to truth and rejected it, well that is another story. The following is not showing you a Trinity, but is the best proof in scripture that Jesus is God. Please share.... 1. Jesus is God, because He sent HIS Holy Prophet from heaven, to the Holy Prophet John in the Revelation, telling us Jesus is Lord God of the Holy Prophets. Rev. 22:16, Rev. 2:6-9 I believe Jesus knows who he is, and wouldn't send HIS HOLY PROPHET TO TELL THE HOLY PROPHET JOHN, A LIE. 2. Jesus is God, because the Holy Prophet John, after hearing one of God's Holy Prophets, sent from heaven, by Jesus, telling him Jesus is LORD GOD of the HOLY PROPHETS, says Jesus is GOD ALMIGHTY. Rev. 1:7-8 3. That's Jesus and two of his Holy Prophets telling you Jesus is LORD GOD of the HOLY PROPHETS, and calling Jesus, GOD ALMIGHTY! 4. Jesus knows who he is and wouldn't send two of HIS HOLY PROPHETS to lie to you!!! If any of God's Holy Prophets are here on this site, feel free to comment. The rest of you aren't qualified to make a valid comment.
The Bible says that the Father is God; that Jesus is God; and that the Holy Spirit is God. At the same time, it also says that there is only one God. Who am I, a mere human, to question these truths? All I have to do is to accept these truths. And so I accept it all, as I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior. May God bless who reads this.
Do I Need to Understand the Trinity to Be Saved? No. You need to understand it came from men, and is found in human creeds, not the Bible. (1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him. (John 17:3) This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ. Knowing God does not mean accepting ideas made up by humans.
[The Day] when Allah will say, “O Jesus, Son of Mary, remember My favor upon you and upon your mother when I supported you with the Pure Spirit and you spoke to the people in the cradle and in maturity; and [remember] when I taught you writing and wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel; and when you designed from clay [what was] like the form of a bird with My permission, then you breathed into it, and it became a bird with My permission; and you healed the blind and the leper with My permission; and when you brought forth the dead with My permission; and when I restrained the Children of Israel from [killing] you when you came to them with clear proofs and those who disbelieved among them said, “This is not but obvious magic.” And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, “O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, ‘Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah?'” He will say, “Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen. I said not to them except what You commanded me - to worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them as long as I was among them; but when You took me up, You were the Observer over them, and You are, over all things, Witness.
The Bible says that the Father is God; that Jesus is God; and that the Holy Spirit is God. At the same time, it also says that there is only one God. Who am I, a mere human, to question these truths? All I have to do is to accept these truths. And so I accept it all, as I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior. May God bless who reads this.
@@harveygitarista1600 "accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior" is an extra biblical concept as no one in the bible actually did these things. You do see however people being baptized in Jesus name and receiving the Holy Ghost after repenting. That's biblical salvation.
moses jesus money satan judges angels en MANY MORE all are called god but NO ONE is the ETERNAL GOD ADONAI EL SHADDAI except the father alone ! Unitarian Christianity is the only right path john 17,3 its UNBIBLICAL
First of all, the council of Nicea in 325 AD introduced the trinity. Why, how? The bible is the best answer; Isaiah said To the Law, and to the testimony; if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Many of those men had no light in them, let alone the Holy Ghost. These were the nucleus for the Catholic church. They brought in the trinity doctrine. Do your history. As the dark ages was winding down, all these religions sprang up. The Catholics called them Sperated Bretheren. And also they became the Prostestants. Those who protested against the Catholic church. Unfortunately amongst other things, the Prostestants kept the Trinitarian doctrine, which the apostles did not teach. The taught Jesus is God manifest in the flesh. See 1Timothy 3:16. And John 1: 1-14. Isaiah 9:6, 7:14. Revelation 1: 1-8; 17-18. Jesus said I and my Father are one. John 14 1-4; Jesus said When you see ME, you SEE the Father, how sayes thou then, shew us the Father. Jesus was to his apostles. People, God is a Spirit. He fills all things. In order for the people to God, God must manifest himself in an object we can see. The spirit of God is invisible to us. So, he simply put himself in a form we can see- Jesus! That body was the only BEGOTTEN Son. To be Begotten means the Spirit took on the form of something. In this case, a man. Fathered by NO MAN. Mary was just a vessel to hold that body, or in this case, a baby. No such thing as a trinity. Hear O Israel, the LORD our God is one. Paul said One Lord, one faith, one baptism. One God, who is above all, through all, and in you all. How? By the Holy Ghost. And, He's only in the church.
No do not believe in trinity This a false doctrine Believe in the holy god and his son Jesus christ Pray to the holy god in the name of Jesus christ for true knowledge
i wonder why after all these centuries,i mean that's an awful long time,how come we still battling to explain the trinity??the best we do is say well it's to wonderful etc to explain lol...maybe it can't be explained because it isn't true mmmmm
I would say it's not understandable as humans, it's like a mystery for us. But we all try to do our best to explain it but it's still not clear. God is not to be completely understood, he is to be experienced by faith.
@Reagen Steyn can you please explain. I've been very confused. I grew up believing that Jesus is God. My apostolic and and great grandmother rejected the "trinity" to describe God. To use their words, "it's of the devil". When I surrendered my life to Christ at the age of 24, the "concept" of the holy spirit was introduced. Anyway reading the scriptures for myself and understanding that there is another helper, the Holy Ghost, I didn't understand why as a child I was taught that was a "Catholic thing" and of the "devil". I believe with all my heart that Jesus is Lord and Saviour but I'm more confused than ever and I've been walking with the Lord for 15 years. Can you please help someone like me understand what you mean in this particular comment you made.
@@aimhigh9999 - Reagan is probably not the best person to turn to for help. The Spirit will guide you into all truth! Get in the word, asking Him to open your eyes each time. Jesus is worthy of all praise and honor and glory and power. At His Name, every knee will bow in heaven and on earth and under the earth. Every knee.
He is not a believer, @@aimhigh9999. At this time he's worshipping a false deity. Be careful from whom you ask questions -- the responses should ALWAYS line up with Scripture.
Why are we still battling to explain the Trinity? Because heretics enter the Church as wolves in sheep's clothing and attempt to lead the sheep astray. Stick with Scripture (sola scriptura) and you'll be just fine.
and by the way,it's a ridiculous video to even have,why?because the Bible makes it clear exactly just what it is by where men are saved!!!...since when do we get to add to the Bible,add what you might ask??this rubbish DO I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE TRINITY TO BE SAVED???!!..good Lord our ears have gone ITCHY!!!!👏
In the matter of the deity and humanity of Christ, the Bible strongly implies that seriously wrong ideas disqualify from salvation. The letters of 1 and 2 John were written in part to combat the idea that Jesus wasn't really human. So, for example, in 2 John 1:7 John says: 'Many deceivers have gone out into the world; they do not acknowledge the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.' And then in v. 9, referring to the same false teaching, John says: 'Anyone who does not remain in Christ's teaching but goes beyond it does not have God.' So in matters of the deity and humanity of Christ, it seems that some beliefs were so serious that those holding them should be judged as false Christians. It makes sense to think that there could also be some wrong ideas about the Trinity that are equally serious. I do believe that God often has mercy on Christians who get things seriously wrong without having properly thought things through. But I think there are times when professing Christians promote heretical views on the Trinity after thinking things through, and their beliefs show that they are false believers.
Your comment, @@showtime5372, makes it clear that you didn't listen to the posted video. The Trinity doctrine begins with "God is one." In other words, it's monotheism, not tritheism.
God knew I was talking to him. I had no clue about the trinity or the lord Jesus. But when I cried out to God, he was there and made himself known.
Thank You Lord Jesus for freeing me from all my disgusting sins I practiced before I came to know You. I love You!
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what are those?
@@TheKmilo2695 all the good stuff. Like reading the bible after masturbating to porn, telling people about Jesus without knowing him, stealing, lying, actually believing to be a born again Christian, to mention a few. Just like Jeremiah said: "The heart is deceitful above all things
and beyond cure. Who can understand it?" Jesus saved me. Now I can finally call myself a true child of God
@Christus Mea Lux May we always fall into the arms of our Lord so we don't have to give in to fleshly lusts and temptations. God bless You (And better to become a Christian with 50 than never)
What about the one Jesus came to lead you to? He said "I am the way, the truth and the life, no one can come to the FATHER, accept by me!) John 14:6. Have you come to the father through Jesus? "I am thr door" said, so have you walked through the door to his father?
God bless y'all brothers and sisters, read the Bible for knowledge! Everyday, for you to remember what is more important in your daily life.
Thank you, Lord.
Praise the Lord!
Thank you for imparting a Biblical teaching on existence of God & explaining it so clearly😇
Thank you Pastor John
Wonderful explanation. Thank you.
Thanks be to Jesus really a lot for this, Amen !
Understanding the Trinity is different to believing in the Trinity. I believe that God is God the Father God the Son and God the Holy Spirit and they are one, but I can’t claim to understand how that Trinity works- it beyond my comprehension.
God is not a God that we are supposed to understand, but to be known and loved by Him and to know and love Him
1 Timothy 2:5, NLT: "For there is only one God and one Mediator who can reconcile God and humanity-- Christ Jesus"
Christ is not God. He's his son
@@bobwellington7580 *JESUS IS GOD* second person of the Trinity
Hebrews 1:8 - The Father calls Jesus God
2 Peter 1:1 - Peter calls him God
John 20:28 - Thomas calls him God
Isaiah 9:6 - Jesus is called Everlasting Father and Mighty God!
John 1:1 - The Word was God
John 1:18 - Jesus is called the only God, at the Father’s side.
Praise God 😊✝️
Good enough 🤗
@@bobwellington7580 you missed it...you're lost but good news you're close👍
Brilliant, thanks Pastor John!!!
Trinity math. Each member has a different purpose but different roles. Man's math 1+1+1=3 but when it comes to the Trinity each aspect of each individual member of the Trinity is infinite in ever character and ability so you end up with the math equation of infinity + infinity + infinity = infinity. Since each member is infinite with the same purpose and desire you can never increase the value or separate them as three Gods. They have the same value and purpose together or apart as one infinite God.
1 X 1 X 1 = 1
or as you put it
Infinity + Infinity + Infinity = Infinity
No matter how you look at God, He is always the same, ONE.
@jparkerwillis that's a nice plane you've got there.
Please fine me "God the Son" in the Bible. Because this term is completely different than "Son of God" and one is not in the Bible.
@@Sirach144
I AM
don't philosophize you heretic
I quite like the way John Piper answered this question. If someone is teaching seriously wrong ideas about the Trinity, genuine believers should sense that something isn't right, even if they are not able to clearly articulate the doctrine of the Trinity.
I think a lot of genuine Christians have a very faulty understanding of the Trinity. But if someone is a genuine believer and they pray and examine this topic, the Spirit will lead them towards truth and away from error.
I don't think many of the first Christians would have had a clear understanding of the Trinity, but they wouldn't have held views that sharply contradicted this.
In Acts 2 thousands of Jews converted & worshipped the Triune God, Yahweh, because they were already Binatarian. The Jewish "Two Powers" theology wasn't ruled a heresy (by the rabbis) until around 100 A.D. Too many binatarian Jews were converting to trinitarian Christianity so the rabbis made changes to the doctrine.
So clear. Thank you
Definitely one his best podcasts
Many know the trinity individually but not all know the three in one.
Once the biblical doctrine is clarified to the person, s/he may reject it. At that point, the person is either worshipping the one true Triune God who revealed Himself in the pages of Scripture ...or worshipping a false, non-trinune deity.
I recently heard an explanation that makes some sense. It stated that the use of "im" attached to a word in Hebrew indicates a plural meaning. Like "seraph" = angel, "seraphim" = angels. So the Hebrew name "Elohim" which is used for God indicates that He consists of more than one part. Father, Son, Spirit.
If I could sum up what was said at the end there, I believe Pastor John is saying that we shouldn't spend much time focusing on the minimal things (debating about what foods to eat, clothing etc.) but teach others about the crucial things of Scripture to build biblical faith (Salvation in Christ alone, The Trinity, Faith, Love etc.)
John Piper is just amazing
What is amazing is the God that teach him
The Scripture is available to you too, @@superluis22full.
Please be careful that you give the glory to God. Any ability any of us has is given to us by God.
@Arizona person Your idea isn't true or helpful.
@Arizona person flat earth is not true, and not biblical
My best understanding of the Trinity is based on the metaphor of the tetrahedron. It has four sides, representing how the one God reveals himself as God, Father, Son, Spirit. We serve one God. If you hold a tetrahedron in your hand, you hold one object, representing the One God. The distinctiveness of the persons is preserved since the one object has four facets. The distinct facets are also part of the integral whole while yet being separate. If the tetrahedron is made of transparent glass, you can look through one facet and across to see a different facet facing the inside. This explains how Jesus could say to Phillip, if you have seen me (looking through the transparent Jesus facet), you have seen the Father, (the Father facet). A perfect metaphorical illustration of the Trinity can be found in a transparent glass tetrahedron. Easy... God presents himself as each separate facet singly, or as a combination of facets. For example, if you hold the object so you are looking directly down on it, you will see three facets, Father, Son, Spirit. This is how God presents himself at Jesus’ baptism: Jesus in the water, the Father speaking from heaven, and the Holy Spirit descending as a dove, all three present, yet distinct at the same time. Another example is when Jesus was praying the high priestly prayer in the garden. There, the object is turned to show two facets, the Father and the Son. There are fourteen such combinations of facets that reveal God in the scriptures. (P) What about Jehovah of the O.T.? The name Jehovah is so holy that people of New Testament times never used that word. Instead, they used the word, "Lord". These days, Jews will say, "hashem", the "Name", or the "tetragrammaton", or some other substitute word. When a Christian confesses that "Jesus is Lord" at baptism, they are actually saying, "Jesus is Jehovah". Jehovah went through kenosis and came to earth as a helpless baby so he could die on the cross for our salvation.
No, you do not have to believe in the trinity to be saved.
Simply know that in God's sight you are a sinner deserving of hell.
Trust that Jesus suffered and died paying the penalty for you, that what He did was totally sufficient.
Then grow in grace and the knowledge of Him.
The understanding of the trinity will come as you study with an open mind.
Before salvation we are spiritually blind, only after salvation does God open up to us the mystery of His Word.
I think your point is a good one. If someone professes Christian faith and then later rejects the doctrine of the Trinity, that is not a good sign that they are genuine.
@@maxaplin4204 It was a couple of months until I believed Jesus is God as well as the Son of God, and it was Thomas's answer to Jesus in John 20:28 & 29 And Thomas answered and said unto him, "My Lord and my God."
it was the next verse which cemented it for me. I knew if Thomas had it wrong then Jesus would rebuke him immediately. So I read the next verse carefully.
Jesus said unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
Here was the Bible speaking directly to me. "blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed!" I hadn't seen, but I BELIEVED!
This was revealed after three days of fasting, praying and reading. I knew from that moment on, I could trust God and His Word to reveal truth to me.
It was now settled in my mind. I got up and had something to eat and then opened my Bible to the Palms and read;
Psalm 131:2 Surely I have behaved and quieted myself, as a child that is weaned of his mother: my soul is even as a weaned child.
I was rejoicing, praising Jesus as God. He had opened my eyes to Himself and also informed me that I no longer needed milk, but could trust Him in everything. It was very easy after that to understand the Holy Spirit was also God.
That is why I said what I said in my first post. It is possible to be saved yet not know Jesus is God.
However God does not want us to remain ignorant, He wants us to grow in grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ our Lord.
@@carljones8334 Awesome! Thanks for sharing your testimony Carl. Very encouraging, praise the Lord.
You don’t? Explain. You said God the Father, Jesus - so you are saying you don’t have to believe the Holy Spirit? You stated your opinion but let’s keep biblical.
I don’t think I will never understand the trinity doctrine. I’ve been on a quest I don’t know how long...I left Catholic to join the Jehovah Witnesses thinking that they had the answer regarding who God is..after more than a decade in that religion I Recently left so disappointed. Nothing else but Antichrist. I do believe Jesus Christ is the son of God and has the same nature with His Father. Is 9:6 calls him mighty God. So I do believe that. My problem is the explanation given for the Holy Spirit as a distinct person and also God. So far I can only see the Holy Spirit as God’s Spirit since God is Spirit..multiple times in the Bible they mention the Son seated next to the Father but never mentioned the Holy Spirit. I’ll keep studying. I left the Witnesses @ a great cost because I love truth. I’m confident that my Holy Father will reveal the truth to me.
Hey I just read your message! It's terrible that the Jehovah Witnesses are anti-Christs if what you are saying is true.
Have you tried going to a regular Protestant church? I would recommend taking special time to praying to FATHER God, so that you know him better. I would also recommend getting baptized in the FATHER, THE SON AND THR HOLY SPIRIT, as well as inviting the Holy Spirit into your life!
Hi there. I also don't believe the trinity is biblical. It led me to start studying with the Jehovahs Witnesses, it took me a few weeks before I realised it wasn't teaching the truth either. I kept praying and seeking God and God started to lead me to his truth. Checkout the page below, it explains biblically who's spirit the Holy Spirit is and where it comes from. www.end-times-prophecy.org/holy-spirit-jesus.html
Amen. Keep seeking God and he will guide your steps to the truth. I too left the witnesses so I know how it feels, at the end of the day love for the truth triumps. God bless you
Jesus words to a Samaritan woman at John 4:22-24 " Salvation originates with the Jews, WE worship what we KNOW, you worship what you do not know".
He then went on to say that the true worshipers will worship THE FATHER in spirit and truth
According to Jesus then the Jews knew the one whom they worshipped unlike the Samaritans. The Jews were not then and are not now trinitarian.
True Christians will worship the FATHER in spirit and truth Mark 12:28-30
“By the word of the Lord the heavens were made, and by the breath of his mouth all their host.”
Psalm 33:6 ESV
“And God SAID, “Let there be light,” and there was light.”
Genesis 1:3 ESV
You believe God spoke the world into existence. So why can’t you comprehend that God’s WORD was made flesh? Yeshua (Jesus) is the ‘Torah made flesh.’ He came to show us how to fulfill/keep the law of God.
'Adonai Yahweh says this: Woe to the women who sew coverings on all the joints of My hands, and who make headbands for the head of every man of high rank in order to - ensnare lives! You ensnare the lives of My people, but you save alive the lives of those who come to you. And will profane Me among My people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, by your lying to My people who hear your lies that the people would not be killed, and to promise life to those who should not live? Therefore Adonai Yahweh says this: See now, I am against your coverings with which you hunt the lives there to make them escape, and I will tear them from your arms, and I will let the people go, the people whom you ensnare to make them escape. I will also tear your headbands, and deliver My people out of your hand, and they will be no more in your hand to be ensnared, and you will know that I am Yahweh." '
Jesus Christ the SON of God _IS_ God the FATHER manifested as a genuine human.
John 1:1 says:
'In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.'
There is a bit of a riddle here to begin John's Gospel. How can the Word BE God and also BE WITH God?
The answer is that the New Testament uses the word 'God' in 2 different ways. Sometimes it refers to God the Father, the first Person of the Trinity, in distinction from the second and third persons of the Trinity. And sometimes it refers to God as a divine Being without thinking about the persons of the Trinity.
In John 1:1 the word 'God' is used once in each of these ways.
Here is the sentence again with additions in square brackets to show the meaning:
'In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God [i.e., God the Father], and the Word was God [i.e., the divine Being that is God].'
There is no confusion or contradiction in this verse.
There's no riddle there. Read verse 14, Then the WORD became FLESH, and dwelt among us (Jesus) and we beheld HIS glory, the glory as of the only begotten OF THE FATHER, full of grace and truth.
The Holy Spirit is also referred to as God.
Peter saying to Ananias, in chapter five of Acts, "Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God."
Born 2 Win yeah based on the context, I agree with you, Jesus is God. Jesus even said of Him & His Father:
“I and My Father are one.” Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him.
Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?”
The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.””
John 10:30-33
The Jews knew right there He claimed to be God, that’s what the stones were for.
Jesus continues:
“Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’?
If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world,
‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’?
If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me; but if I do, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, that you may know and believe that the Father is in Me, and I in Him.””
John 10:34-38
V.38 is revealing of His response to the Jews that He is in fact professing diety.
@@born2win259 I think maybe 'riddle' isn't the right word. But there is a kind of paradox in the Word's being with God and also being God. It grabs our attention.
@@carljones8334 In my initial comment I said that in the NT the word 'God' (Greek: theos) sometimes refers specifically to God the Father and sometimes it refers to God as a divine being without thinking about the persons of the Trinity.
I think that in Acts 5:4, which you quote, it's referring to the latter of these two meanings, to God simply viewed as a divine being.
V. 3 says that Ananias has lied to the Holy Spirit. But I think in v. 4, when it says that he has lied to God, I don't think 'God' is still concentrating specifically on the Holy Spirit. Instead, I think the reference has broadened to now concentrate on God without reference to the persons of the Trinity.
I do see an implication in Acts 5:3-4 of the divinity of the Holy Spirit. But I don't think the word 'God' is a specific reference to the person of the Holy Spirit parallel to the way John 1:1 specifically uses the word 'God' as a reference to God the Father.
Greetings. If this helps anyone...Many years ago, I did not realize it at the time, I was in a church that believed in the Trinity, but they actually believed in a thing called Tritheism. This view radically demotes the Son and believes HE was NOT God while in the Flesh and also believes in Three Gods. There was this night I had, an attack from the enemy, where I suddenly did not know which God to pray to. Over time even elsewhere I thought, do people take a Sharpie pen and cross out John 14:14? I can say much here, but to keep this shorter, I waited on God to show me The Truth. I can honestly say, over many, many years, I see more and more in Scripture. However, I started to notice things, such as people telling me that if I did NOT deny Isaiah 9:6 (that is, Everlasting Father or Eternal Father) my salvation was at stake. I told them I would never deny this verse or make it mean something else. (I have even seen a children's Bible have a note therein by that text and say that HE was "Like" a Father. I cannot help but wonder what that does to a child and their faith to have something like that in their Bible that insists on reinventing that verse. Other things I have noticed: Preachers at the pulpit telling their congregation that the Father raised the Son from the dead, but they NEVER tell them what the Son said in John 2:19-21...that is, Destroy this temple and in three days "I" will raise it up. I am not saying that they do NOT mean the same thing, for we have Gal. 1:1 to compare that to, of course. It means the same thing. But to me, a key verse is Isaiah 40:3, for this verse tells us Who Came in the Flesh, and it is quoted in all Four Gospels at least to some degree. In Isaiah 40:3 in most English Translations, I believe, tells us that it is LORD and God in that one verse. That is Who came in the Flesh. And here is the thing: LORD means Yahweh, Jehovah, Yehovah, I AM, etc. and in Matthew 28:19 the NAME is Jesus, which in Hebrew is Yeshua, which means, Saviour, LORD is Salvation, and some believe it to mean more precisely, LORD has become our Salvation. Thereby, in the various places in the Book of Acts, in all cases where they mentioned how they baptized it was all in the Name of Jesus. Here is the Big question if one thinks not: Were the Disciples disobedient to the Lord Jesus Christ in Matthew 28:19? AND in the Greek, the "word" NAME, is clearly defined as NAME, but I see people changing the NAME in Scripture to be authority or representative, etc. But I think that is wrong per the importance of "Name" in the Greek. So, in a lot of current translations one can still find Name in John 5:43 and John 10:25 and in John 17:11--- That the Name of Jesus is the Name of the Father, and pertaining to the Holy Spirit, HE comes in the Name too....and of course we have John 4, where the Son refers to the Father as a Spirit God is Spirit, and the Last Adam is called a Life Giving Spirit or a Quickening Spirit. Some people say that there are over 70 places in the OT where God tells us there is no other or He is the only God, etc. But one may ask, why it was SO IMPORTANT for people to believe that God came n the Flesh....for one...HE came to fulfill all that was required, such as various Blood Covenants. In the OT if one made a Blood Covenant and one broke it, they had to die. Moses and his people made a Blood covenant with God, basically the Law Contract. And the thing is, they could not keep the Law perfectly, and we too are in the same boat. So, God came in the Flesh to die in our place. What we deserved fell upon HIM. HE laid His life down willingly and took it up again. But on the Cross HE did more than that. The Sabbath Rest resulted from His people being freed from slavery, and God had to be strict so the day of rest could be maintained...to know that today, Jesus became our REST (and Freedom). There is more. I believe that God died on the Cross, and I think it is what is called the Mystery of Godliness. The One Who used His Own Blood to begin a New Covenant of Mercy and Grace. I stand in awe of all the glorious things that are revealed in the Bible. God bless you all in Jesus' Name.
Think this needs a longer talk and sit down, but I think I understand. It comes down to accepting Christ, then you have fellowship with the Father and God the Spirit.
any questions that you have please let me know brother. I will try to answer them using our Lord's word. God bless you.
Take your time. It's difficult for a finite human to attempt to comprehend infinite God.
Using your Bible, slowly go through some Old Testament passages and you'll begin to see the Trinity in the Tanahk (Hebrew Bible), as well as the NT. For example, who was in the burning bush? Who led the Hebrews out of Egypt? Who wrestled with Jacob? Who was present when Moses was in the cleft of the rock?
@@IndianaJoe0321 Wow that's amazing to think about, I usually go to the NT, but that's true. For instance when God said "I AM" in the OT, Jesus repeated the same words in reference to Himself.
@@born2win259 Just balancing life tbh
Our God is one! I love it.
If you reject the Trinity, you are rejecting God Who is Triune.
I dont believe a man can understand the precise nature of God. And say that you can understand the mystery of Gods nature feels arrogant for me... but thats just my thoughts.
@@EM-fp3wi but it can understand all that has been revealed in the Scriptures, and rejection of that means you're not saved.
@Christopher Felix believing in a false Jesus (a non divine Jesus) does not save.
Only faith in Jesus Christ, Who the Son of God and God the Son, can save you.
@@EM-fp3wi we don't say we understand everything about Trinity, rather, we recognize God as a Father and also a Son, and also the Spirit. Born again Christian born of the Spirit cannot reject his Father and the Son who saved him and also the Spirit who enlightened the eyes of his heart. If one does not recognize these, then.. the Spirit has not revealed and opened his eyes yet, and therefore not saved yet...
You certainly don't "comprehend" everything about & within the oceans, @@EM-fp3wi. Yet, you can at least "apprehend" the oceans.
In the same way, a true born-again believer may never fully "comprehend" the Trinity, yet today the child of God can at least "apprehend" the Trinity.
Interestingly, the verses that were used are are general (generic, if you like) for both trinitarians and non-trinitarians. Of course we all believe in Jesus. One scripture that he avoided was John 17:3, where in Jesus OWN WORDS, says that to have eternal life one must know the ONLY true God, but also the Son of God, alluding to two distinct persons, God the Father, and the SON of God, Jesus. So yes, the scriptures are clear that to have eternal life, we must belief in one true God and his Son, NOT THREE IN ONE.
Trinity is a Hindu concept originally taken from Trimurti
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trimurti
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The Bible says that the Father is God; that Jesus is God; and that the Holy Spirit is God. At the same time, it also says that there is only one God.
Who am I, a mere human, to question these truths?
All I have to do is to accept these truths. And so I accept it all, as I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior.
May God bless who reads this.
Sir you can’t explain the Trinity(because it’s not biblical) so how can you help someone understand it?
The Bible says that the Father is God; that Jesus is God; and that the Holy Spirit is God. At the same time, it also says that there is only one God.
Who am I, a mere human, to question these truths?
All I have to do is to accept these truths. And so I accept it all, as I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior.
May God bless who reads this.
@@harveygitarista1600 You said “who I’m I to question these truths” Well We are entitled to ask questions, the Disciples of Christ did it very often; Now in Deuteronomy 6:4 “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord” this(if you didn’t know) is the foundational text used by Trinitarians to support a Triune(three) God putting emphasis on “ONE” but when you carefully read this in context it doesn’t, here’s how: first thing first we must know and understand Who said or Who spoke these words of Deut 6:4, well Deuteronomy chapter 5 reveals this; Deuteronomy 5:1-2 “And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them. [2] The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb” It was Moses who was speaking and notice he says the exact same thing he said in Deut 6:4 “Hear O Israel” & “The Lord our God” Now later in Chapter 5 Moses says this in reference to the “Lord thy God” Deuteronomy 5:22-24 “These words the Lord spake unto all your assembly in the mount out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the thick darkness, with a great voice: and HE added no more. And HE wrote them in two tables of stone, and delivered them unto me. [23] And it came to pass, when ye heard the voice out of the midst of the darkness, (for the mountain did burn with fire,) that ye came near unto me, even all the heads of your tribes, and your elders; [24] And ye said, Behold, the LORD our God hath shewed us HIS glory and HIS greatness, and we have heard HIS voice out of the midst of the fire: we have seen this day that God doth talk with man, and he liveth.” Moses understanding of the Lord thy God is that He’s One Individual not Three notice he says “He” & “His”. Continuing on to Chapter 6 notice what Moses says prior to verse 4 and afterwards Deuteronomy 6:1-5 “Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the Lord your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it: [2] That thou mightest fear the Lord thy God, to keep all HIS statutes and HIS commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged. [3] Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do it; that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as the LORD God of thy fathers hath promised thee, in the land that floweth with milk and honey.
[4] Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord[5] And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.”
Again Moses says “HIS” denoting One as a single individual not a unity. if you read the whole chapter of Deuteronomy 6 you would see Moses understanding of his meaning of One. Now in Mark 12 A Scribe ask Jesus a question Mark 12:28-32 “And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? [29] And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: [30] And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. [31] And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. [32] And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but HE” Notice Jesus himself quoted Deuteronomy 6:4-5 in Mark 12:29-30 the Scribe says Christ has said the truth and his understanding of One is one person not a unity of one by saying “for there is one God; and there is none other but He” lastly in John 17 Christ praying to his Father says this John 17:1-3 “These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: [2] As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. [3] And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” When Christ said His Father is the Only True God he’s not saying he himself is not God but His Father is the Source of all life and all creation(Acts 17:24-25) that’s why Paul says in 1 Corinthians 8:6 “But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things…” Jesus reveals this fact that His Father is the source of life even his own divinity(divine life) John 5:26 “For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself” Notice the Father life in himself was given to his Son (Jesus) this is not referring to Christ humanity but his divinity, life in himself is a self-existence life.
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved
“And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, AND Jesus Christ whom you have sent.”
John 17:3 ESV
God sent the Messiah. The Father is THE ONLY God.
Trinity=in the one being of God there exist 3 persons. Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Unitarianism was condemned in the early centuries as a heresy.
If Jesus is God, the Holy Spirit is God, and the Father is God. I’m not mathematician, but that would equal 3 gods, not 1.
Justas399 a lot of things were condemned and persecuted by the early church, doesn’t make them right.
@@doompod Those are the 3 persons in the one being of God. All 3 persons are said to be God in Scripture.
@@doompod In this case it does because the Scriptures clearly teach that in the one being of God there are 3 persons.
It is right to say that God is one God in 3 persons. However, the English word 'persons' is not a perfect way of describing the individuals within the Trinity, but rather is the best word that the English language can come up with. We are dealing with profound truths far beyond human capacity to fully understand, where our language falls short of the ability to perfectly describe reality.
Find me "three" associated with God
@@Sirach144 Matt 28:19: 'In the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit'.
The fact that the word 'three' isn't used is beside the point.
I don't like the word trinity. Its man's attempt to explain the infinite God. People have made it a doctrine. Instead of trying to use a simple word, how about learning the Word of God so you have an answer for every man from God's Word. If the Holy Spirit is teaching you, you'll understand the meaning of the scriptures and you won't have to rely on an oversimplified term that isn't even in the bible.
The Bible says that the Father is God; that Jesus is God; and that the Holy Spirit is God. At the same time, it also says that there is only one God.
Who am I, a mere human, to question these truths?
All I have to do is to accept these truths. And so I accept it all, as I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior.
May God bless who reads this.
The questions is Christ God the Father?
No. One God in three distinct persons..
Just read 1Cor.8:4-6 ; 1Cor.11:3 and 1Cor.15:27-28
'One GOD in three Persons' is a false statement.
'One SPIRIT in three Entities' is a true statement.
The Holy SPIRIT is in the FATHER of the spirits of light. Heb.12:9 Jam.1:17
The Holy SPIRIT is in the Angels as they are called Sons of GOD. Job.1:6 ; 2:1
The Holy SPIRIT is in the Believing Men, as they are called Sons of GOD. Phil.2:15 1Jn.3:1-2
The Testimony of JESUS - Jn.17:3 ; 18:37
All the apostles testified that JESUS was the MAN from Heaven (the MAN with the Holy SPIRIT). Jn.1:14 Matt.1:18-20 Lk.1:35 1Cor.15:47-49
We must accept the Testimony of JESUS given to us by the apostles and JESUS HIMSELF, and not continue to hold on to a false testimony of 'TRINITY' as passed down to us by the Catholic church.
@@ngdavid3925 -"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. " John 1:1
the Word became flesh in Jesus-"And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth." John 1:14
The Holy Spirit is God-"3 But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back some of the price of the land? 4 While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not under your control? Why is it that you have conceived this deed in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God.” Acts 5
Thus we have the Trinity.
I have a question. And this is an honest question. So I have been saved for a few years, but don't fully identify with the Trinitarian belief, nor do I fully identify with the Modalist belief, Biblical Unitarian belief, or Binitarian belief. There was a time where I did believe and defend the Trinity, but now I'm just not sure about what doctrine to believe about God. I've listened to several debates on the subjects and have referred to scripture so many times that I can't even count, and yet I can't come to a single conclusion as to what the Bible teaches on the subject. I've heard many convincing arguments from several angles of this grand debate, but I just can't find a decisive conclusion. And every time I think I come to a conclusion, I start doubting it and can't seem to stick with it for very long anyway. I just can't find the truth when viewing the entire debate. And it's not that I deny the Trinity, I really don't, but I just can't come to a decisive conclusion and I'm worried that I never will. But yet, I believe in Jesus Christ, confessing with my mouth that he is Lord, believing in my heart that he died for my sins and that God the Father rose him from the dead. Not to mention I am currently in the process of fully repenting of my sins. It's hard, but it is working. If I were to die right now, (that's not a threat of suicide, I just mean hypothetically speaking) do you think I am still saved? Or did I lose my salvation? Someone please help me?
The Trinity is an essential doctrine to believe however REALITY is; No human being that has sinned can ever comprehend God exhaustively. That's where faith comes in. The Trinity word is not in the Bible but it is DEFINITELY IMPLIED.
The Bible says that the Father is God; that Jesus is God; and that the Holy Spirit is God. At the same time, it also says that there is only one God.
Who am I, a mere human, to question these truths?
All I have to do is to accept these truths. And so I accept it all, as I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior.
May God bless who reads this.
The bible states a number a factors necessary for salvation including repentance from sin and faith in the ransom sacrifice of Jesus Christ . Christians must believe Jesus is the SON of God and accept him as their Lord and King.
If it were necessary to believe that Jesus Is God the Son which is the way Trinitarians seem to understand this phrase I'm sure our loving Father would have made this clear.
Jesus told a Samaritan woman at John 4:22-24
"Salvation originates with the Jews we worship what we KNOW." he then went on to say that the TRUE worshipers will worship the FATHER in spirit and truth.
According to Jesus the non trinitarian Jews knew what they worshipped and the TRUE worshipers will worship the FATHER.
@@aksk5770 what does it mean to be the Son of God though (not referring to those who are adopted in) but THE Son of God? Surely a divine nature! If every head will bow someday, that’s rather sacrilegious if He is a mere human. Or even a mere angel, etc.
@@rach9466 Hi Rach I would agree with you that Jesus THE SON of God is of a divine nature .
The fact that he is God's Son tells us something about him and his Father.
If two identical twins were to come to my door and one twin claimed to be the Father of the other I would think something very strange was going on. We expect a Father to be older and more experienced than a son. A Son learns from his father and often reflects the qualities and personality of the Father .
I believe the father Jehovah is older than the Son Jesus. Jesus was the beginning of the creation by God his first born only begotten son, all things were created through him and for him. All things will be subject to him and to him every knee will bend.
Jesus is God's SON not his brother
When Jesus was asked how to pray he said you must pray this way "our FATHER in heaven" he also referred to his Father as my God and the only true God (John 17:3).
Is it necessary to believe the trinity doctrine for salvation? I don't think Moses ,David, Daniel or Jeremiah believed the trinity doctrine, they certainly didn't think it important enough to put in their writings. Worship the God of the Bible their God Jehovah then you really can't go wrong 🙂❤️
John 1:1 speaks about God and the Word which is the Son of God but no mention of the Holy Spirit being there in the beginning so how can there be a Trinity? Trinity doctrine is Not! Biblical
1 Corinthians 15:3-4 doesn’t imply any belief in any “theology” (finite mans’ study of the infinite God) to be saved.
Doesn’t “according to the scriptures” referenced twice in those verses imply the want and need to understand God’s Word(the scriptures) as the only way for us to understand God’s character, ie. theology? If you don’t know the God who saved you, what exactly are you confessing? Not to say you will ever grasp the understanding of God, but obedience to Him demands seeking His face, which is a condition of the heart only God can judge.
Sir you do believe in multiple Gods, if you say God the Father God the Son and God the Holy Spirit that’s three Gods not One, also in Mark Jesus and Scribe both agreed that the One God of all things was “He” one person which is the Father not a unity of three
It's more petsonal to call someone by there right name. If your name was John but I called you're George kinda off putting.
How can Jesus be God when he clearly says the Father is greater than I am.
Sir think on what you are saying, when you say Spirit of God how can you say it’s another divine person? it’s plainly telling you who the Spirit belongs to and that’s God same as Spirit of Christ that Spirit belongs to Christ not someone else
I will also say this; If the God of the Bible was easy to understand, I wouldn't be interested. Any God that can be comprehended by my feeble mind is too small, too impotent, and too boring for me. Only absolute perfection can interest me because everything else is just a dim shadow.
All I wanna know is if the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost were there when God created the earth...... that’s my biggest question.
Yes. Absolutely
@@lionoffireministries Thanks! Subscribed to your channel.
The Bible says that the Father is God; that Jesus is God; and that the Holy Spirit is God. At the same time, it also says that there is only one God.
Who am I, a mere human, to question these truths?
All I have to do is to accept these truths. And so I accept it all, as I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior.
May God bless who reads this.
John 10:30
It's a Theory, not biblical.
And Jesus said "my God"
1 Timothy 2:5, NLT: "For there is only one God and one Mediator who can reconcile God and humanity-- Christ Jesus"
The Bible is clear. Christ is not God
The Bible says that the Father is God; that Jesus is God; and that the Holy Spirit is God. At the same time, it also says that there is only one God.
Who am I, a mere human, to question these truths?
All I have to do is to accept these truths. And so I accept it all, as I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior.
May God bless who reads this.
Nobody can understand it.......
The Bible says that the Father is God; that Jesus is God; and that the Holy Spirit is God. At the same time, it also says that there is only one God.
Who am I, a mere human, to question these truths?
All I have to do is to accept these truths. And so I accept it all, as I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior.
May God bless who reads this.
We dont believe in multiple gods *believes in multiple gods*
I think some people really make this to be much difficult than it really is. God is the creator of all things Heaven and Earth. He sent his only begotten Son to die for the sins of the world (Jesus). When Jesus ascended back to Heaven he left his "helper" The Holy Spirit, which is what dwells in us. You could interpret it in any way. Sometimes some people say God dwells in me, or Jesus Dwells in me.
Jesus didn't "leave His Helper;" that is not in Scripture.
"“But when the Counselor comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will bear witness of Me.""
~ John 15:26
The Holy Spirit is sent by Jesus, from the Father; the Spirit proceeds from the Father.
@@IndianaJoe0321 'Helper' and 'Counselor' are both reasonable translations of the Greek word Parakletos.
Christians disagree on whether the Spirit proceeds from the Father alone or from the Father and the Son. I think the latter view is probably the better one.
You got that part right. Except you missed the full gospel message.
So yes we need to make it a big deal. It is. It’s the gospel message from God about His Son.
God is holy
Man is a sinner.
Jesus is the Savior
Repent and believe.
You left out too much.
@@HappyPenguin75034 it was really meant to be brief…
nooooooooooo i crty out to Jesus for help and i am saved
But if you confess that that Jesus is not God the Son in the Trinity, then you're confessing a false Jesus and you're not saved.
But you need to understand who the Jesus is that you are crying out to. In 2 John 1:7-9 we read about people who deny that Jesus is human and are said not to have God. They presumably would have cried out to Jesus, but they wouldn't have been saved.
It is possible that something similar may sometimes be true about those who deny the Trinity.
Joshua Theo: can you post the scripture reference for that statement please
Who is Jesus? To whom are you crying out? The Jehovah's Witnesses think Jesus is Michael the Archangel -- and they're wrong.
He is saying, @@BrotherTris, that God is Triune. If a person refuses to worship the one, true Triune God, Yahweh, then s/he is worshipping a false deity.
In other words, Jesus is Yahweh in the flesh. He is 100% God and, at the same time, 100% human.
Jesus christ created man in his image, body, soul and spirit (life)as one person with a name Adam, Jesus Christ is one God, the farther is the divine conscience/wisdom of Jesus christ, Jesus Christ is the infinite spirit, breath of life, the eternal spirit, living water of life, in the Jesus christ the fullness of the Diety lives in bodily form in the body of Jesus christ, the lamb on the throne of God, Jesus Christ never said that the holy spirit and I are one. Question, did the holy spirit ever kill a person? As God is the savior.
The (trinity) is not only a vain, perverse, idle, corrupt, filthy word of confusion not found in the holy scriptures, it is a doctrine of devils and damnable heresy.
These 3 names are the names of the Holy One: Jesus the Almighty everlasting Father:
1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Matthew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Acts 19:5
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Isaiah 45:
[21] Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
[22] Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
[23] I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
Philippians 2:10
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Ephesians 4:6
One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Job 13:
[8] Will ye accept his person? will ye contend for God?
[9] Is it good that he should search you out? or as one man mocketh another, do ye so mock him?
[10] He will surely reprove you, if ye do secretly accept persons.
John 14:
[8] Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
[9] Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
John 4:22
Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
1 John 2:23
Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
John 8:
[24] I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
[25] Then said they unto him,
Who art thou?
And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning. [26] I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
[27] They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
John 20:
[28] And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
[29] Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
Revelation 1:
[7] Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
[8] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
By saying "Son of God", John means "God the Son"
Do ya'll hear how crazy this sounds?😂
The question: Do i need to Understand the Trinity to Be Saved? Here is the answer:
Absolutely not! First, one is saved by grace and not by their own intellectual understanding! We saved by Christ's atoning sacrifice, but we must accept it by repenting from sin and trusting in Christ. Adding anything else to this would be adding requirements to salvation. In fact, we will not understand everything about God! In the book of Job, God should him many wonders about the world that Job did not know about. However, Job was still righteous in the sight of God! God's infinite being transcends time, space, and matter. People were saved even before the New Testament period. Were they saved by their knowledge of the New Testament? OF COURSE NOT. We are saved by God's grace after we repent and trust in Christ. Nothing more nothing less. We should not add to scripture or take away from scripture. It becomes clear in scripture that the Holy Spirit, the Father, and the Son are all God. We can have trust in this because it is God's character who we trust in His Word. I have seen people add to this by saying that you must understand the trinity. However, this is not correct for the reasons stated above.
They are daughters of the Catholic Church who spew this rhetoric. Be blessed.
One is not saved by grace through faith in a false Jesus.
@@joshuatheo1419 You are correct. However, scripture states what it means to know the true Jesus.
Hebrews 8:10-12: 10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 11 None of them shall teach his neighbor, and none his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them. 12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins [a]and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.”
When Abraham was credited to him as righteous. He did so by faith in Christ even though he did not know "Jesus" yet because he was already born again by the mercy of Christ. We do not need to know all the mysteries of God to have Trust and faith in Jesus Christ. We simply must repent from sin and trust in the mercy of Christ.
They are polytheists. They just call three one.
“Jesus is the Son of God which is Johns way of saying God the Son”... ummmm what? That is the problem with this doctrine, you make assumptions that are not true.
John 5:18 says that Jesus 'was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal to God.'
So John's Gospel understands Jesus' sonship as a claim to divinity. In other words, in Johannine theology for Jesus to be the Son of God means that he is God.
So what Piper said here isn't an assumption, and it seems to be correct.
@@maxaplin4204 Exactly, Jesus was God in the FLESH. Remember, that in IN the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was WITH GOD, and the WORD WAS GOD. If we go a bit lower to verse 14 it then says that the WORD became FLESH and DWELT AMONG US and WE beheld HIS glory, the glory as of the only begotten OF THE FATHER, full of grace and truth.
Max Aplin: nope. He is the eternal and divine SON of God. Does Jesus Christ have a God?
Who was in the burning bush, @@BrotherTris? Who led the Hebrews out of Egypt? Who was present when Moses was in the cleft of the rock?
Using your Bible, please answer these questions.
@@BrotherTris The divinity of Jesus is a major New Testament theme. John 1:1 teaches it. Another verse that does so is John 20:28, where Thomas says to Jesus:
'My Lord and my God.'
Yes, Jesus has a God, but he is fully human as well as fully divine. Many statements in Scripture apply to him in his human nature but not to him in his divine nature, and vice versa. So, Jesus in his human nature has a God.
To deny the deity of Jesus, you have to explain away a great many texts.
Listen to the Bible, John 1:18 says no man has ever seen God. So Jesus could not be God.
I dont believe trinity doctrine it's not even in the bible and is NEVER said to be necessary for salvation.
@Danny Murdach all that is just saying that Christ was part of God or with God since the beginning. Everyone knows that well almost everyone. That does not say there's an Trinity
God the Father God the Son God the Holy Spirit...each of them a PERSON he says,this is what throws yourll off,it's not 3 persons,it's 3 TITLES
Since Jesus never mentioned the trinity' doctrine to his apostles ( elluding to it is not sufficient!) neither was it mentined by Paul, Peter, or James in the epistles, then does this mean that christian seekers had to waite till 300 years later to know anything about the trinity? This is rubbish! So early chrisitans were not saved'?Just a little history will tell you the 'trinity' was a very contraversial idea, and argued about for hundreds of years! It became the 'orthodox' creed by order not of sincere christians but pagan roman emperors. The bishops of the day were only too happy to emerge from the cattacombs and do a deal with the very nation that killed their own leader! It was total compromise & could in no way have received God's approval!
The Bible says that the Father is God; that Jesus is God; and that the Holy Spirit is God. At the same time, it also says that there is only one God.
Who am I, a mere human, to question these truths?
All I have to do is to accept these truths. And so I accept it all, as I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior.
May God bless who reads this.
The Trinity is the god of those who perish.
The God of Israel is one, not a corporation.
*JESUS IS GOD* second person of the Trinity
Hebrews 1:8 - The Father calls Jesus God
2 Peter 1:1 - Peter calls him God
John 20:28 - Thomas calls him God
Isaiah 9:6 - Jesus is called Everlasting Father and Mighty God!
John 1:1 - The Word was God
John 1:18 - Jesus is called the only God, at the Father’s side.
Praise God 😊✝️
According to Scriptures, there are ONLY two divine beings and not three: God, the Father, and His only-begotten Son; the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God and of the Son. The trinity god is a false pagan doctrine, and not of God. Jesus said, I quote,
"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3)
And apostle Paul said, I quote,
"But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him." (1 Corinthians 8:6)
Apostle John also said, I quote,
"... He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son." (1 John 2:22.b)
Actually you need to REJECT the 'trinity' to be saved! Why ?because Everlasting life is the result of faith in the RANSOM SACRIFICE of our Lord Jesus Christ. The 'trinity' teaches that Jesus was just 'God incarnate' ( That is still fully God but 'clothed' with a human body! In fact he was conceived and born as a PERFECT MAN who died as a substitute for Adam ( 1 Tim 2:5) He really died! body & Soul and was resurrected on the third day! The 'trinity' is contrary to this biblical FACT! Eternal life comes tby believing that Jesus Christ is the SON OF GOD! ( John 20:31)
Sir, we ought to know what the Son is and why the term Son was used. Jesus was flesh and blood a body created for the redemption of mankind. Jesus name is the name given for the salavtion of mankind. This name remains only until the salivation age.
Your explanation does not explain anything about the existence of trinity.
I love you John Piper and I am thankful for what I have learnt through your ministry.
However, Jesus said the Father is the only true God John 17:3
There is no biblical reference to "God the Son".
The eternal Spirit (word) of the Father was in the man Jesus Christ:
... how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without blemish to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? For this reason He is the mediator of a new covenant, so that, since a death has taken place for the redemption of the transgressions that were committed under the first covenant, those who have been called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
Hebrews 9:14-15 NASB
Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation.
2 Corinthians 5:18-19 NASB
I pray that through His Spirit, the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ will open your eyes to see the truly glory of his eternal plan revealed to us in His Son.
Well said
God does not hold you accountable for what you do not know.
If you have been exposed to truth and rejected it, well that is another story.
The following is not showing you a Trinity, but is the best proof in scripture that Jesus is God.
Please share....
1.
Jesus is God, because He sent HIS Holy Prophet from heaven, to the Holy Prophet John in the Revelation, telling us Jesus is Lord God of the Holy Prophets.
Rev. 22:16, Rev. 2:6-9
I believe Jesus knows who he is, and wouldn't send HIS HOLY PROPHET TO TELL THE HOLY PROPHET JOHN, A LIE.
2.
Jesus is God, because the Holy Prophet John, after hearing one of God's Holy Prophets, sent from heaven, by Jesus, telling him Jesus is LORD GOD of the HOLY PROPHETS, says Jesus is GOD ALMIGHTY.
Rev. 1:7-8
3. That's Jesus and two of his Holy Prophets telling you Jesus is LORD GOD of the HOLY PROPHETS, and calling Jesus, GOD ALMIGHTY!
4. Jesus knows who he is and wouldn't send two of HIS HOLY PROPHETS to lie to you!!!
If any of God's Holy Prophets are here on this site, feel free to comment.
The rest of you aren't qualified to make a valid comment.
The Bible says that the Father is God; that Jesus is God; and that the Holy Spirit is God. At the same time, it also says that there is only one God.
Who am I, a mere human, to question these truths?
All I have to do is to accept these truths. And so I accept it all, as I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior.
May God bless who reads this.
Do I Need to Understand the Trinity to Be Saved? No. You need to understand it came from men, and is found in human creeds, not the Bible.
(1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.
(John 17:3) This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
Knowing God does not mean accepting ideas made up by humans.
There is no such thing as trinity...
amen
[The Day] when Allah will say, “O Jesus, Son of Mary, remember My favor upon you and upon your mother when I supported you with the Pure Spirit and you spoke to the people in the cradle and in maturity; and [remember] when I taught you writing and wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel; and when you designed from clay [what was] like the form of a bird with My permission, then you breathed into it, and it became a bird with My permission; and you healed the blind and the leper with My permission; and when you brought forth the dead with My permission; and when I restrained the Children of Israel from [killing] you when you came to them with clear proofs and those who disbelieved among them said, “This is not but obvious magic.”
And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, “O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, ‘Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah?'” He will say, “Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen. I said not to them except what You commanded me - to worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them as long as I was among them; but when You took me up, You were the Observer over them, and You are, over all things, Witness.
No such thing as a Christian Trinity. It's a pagan doctrine. Jesus is the father. Father son and Holy ghost are titles. Jesus is the name of God
If you call on God your calling on Jesus.
The Bible says that the Father is God; that Jesus is God; and that the Holy Spirit is God. At the same time, it also says that there is only one God.
Who am I, a mere human, to question these truths?
All I have to do is to accept these truths. And so I accept it all, as I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior.
May God bless who reads this.
@@harveygitarista1600 "accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior" is an extra biblical concept as no one in the bible actually did these things. You do see however people being baptized in Jesus name and receiving the Holy Ghost after repenting. That's biblical salvation.
@@harveygitarista1600 Colossians 2:8-9 it's ALL in Jesus. All is all.
moses jesus money satan judges angels en MANY MORE all are called god
but NO ONE is the ETERNAL GOD ADONAI EL SHADDAI except the father alone ! Unitarian Christianity is the only right path john 17,3
its UNBIBLICAL
First of all, the council of Nicea in 325 AD introduced the trinity. Why, how? The bible is the best answer; Isaiah said To the Law, and to the testimony; if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
Many of those men had no light in them, let alone the Holy Ghost. These were the nucleus for the Catholic church. They brought in the trinity doctrine. Do your history. As the dark ages was winding down, all these religions sprang up. The Catholics called them Sperated Bretheren. And also they became the Prostestants. Those who protested against the Catholic church. Unfortunately amongst other things, the Prostestants kept the Trinitarian doctrine, which the apostles did not teach.
The taught Jesus is God manifest in the flesh. See 1Timothy 3:16. And John 1: 1-14. Isaiah 9:6, 7:14. Revelation 1: 1-8; 17-18.
Jesus said I and my Father are one. John 14 1-4; Jesus said When you see ME, you SEE the Father, how sayes thou then, shew us the Father. Jesus was to his apostles. People, God is a Spirit. He fills all things. In order for the people to God, God must manifest himself in an object we can see. The spirit of God is invisible to us. So, he simply put himself in a form we can see- Jesus! That body was the only BEGOTTEN Son. To be Begotten means the Spirit took on the form of something. In this case, a man. Fathered by NO MAN. Mary was just a vessel to hold that body, or in this case, a baby. No such thing as a trinity. Hear O Israel, the LORD our God is one. Paul said One Lord, one faith, one baptism. One God, who is above all, through all, and in you all.
How? By the Holy Ghost. And, He's only in the church.
The Council of Nicea didn't introduce the Trinity, they defined it a biblical doctrine.
Nonsense....trinity is a false doctrine. Jesus has a God....the Father.....his 1 person God.
No do not believe in trinity
This a false doctrine
Believe in the holy god and his son Jesus christ
Pray to the holy god in the name of Jesus christ for true knowledge
The trinity is a false teaching. Its polytheism being called monotheism
i wonder why after all these centuries,i mean that's an awful long time,how come we still battling to explain the trinity??the best we do is say well it's to wonderful etc to explain lol...maybe it can't be explained because it isn't true mmmmm
I would say it's not understandable as humans, it's like a mystery for us. But we all try to do our best to explain it but it's still not clear. God is not to be completely understood, he is to be experienced by faith.
@Reagen Steyn can you please explain. I've been very confused. I grew up believing that Jesus is God. My apostolic and and great grandmother rejected the "trinity" to describe God. To use their words, "it's of the devil". When I surrendered my life to Christ at the age of 24, the "concept" of the holy spirit was introduced. Anyway reading the scriptures for myself and understanding that there is another helper, the Holy Ghost, I didn't understand why as a child I was taught that was a "Catholic thing" and of the "devil". I believe with all my heart that Jesus is Lord and Saviour but I'm more confused than ever and I've been walking with the Lord for 15 years.
Can you please help someone like me understand what you mean in this particular comment you made.
@@aimhigh9999 - Reagan is probably not the best person to turn to for help.
The Spirit will guide you into all truth! Get in the word, asking Him to open your eyes each time.
Jesus is worthy of all praise and honor and glory and power. At His Name, every knee will bow in heaven and on earth and under the earth. Every knee.
He is not a believer, @@aimhigh9999. At this time he's worshipping a false deity. Be careful from whom you ask questions -- the responses should ALWAYS line up with Scripture.
Why are we still battling to explain the Trinity? Because heretics enter the Church as wolves in sheep's clothing and attempt to lead the sheep astray.
Stick with Scripture (sola scriptura) and you'll be just fine.
and by the way,it's a ridiculous video to even have,why?because the Bible makes it clear exactly just what it is by where men are saved!!!...since when do we get to add to the Bible,add what you might ask??this rubbish DO I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE TRINITY TO BE SAVED???!!..good Lord our ears have gone ITCHY!!!!👏
Bro calm down, don't be that hateful by saying what they do is ridiculous because they are trying to answer the question of somebody.
In the matter of the deity and humanity of Christ, the Bible strongly implies that seriously wrong ideas disqualify from salvation.
The letters of 1 and 2 John were written in part to combat the idea that Jesus wasn't really human. So, for example, in 2 John 1:7 John says:
'Many deceivers have gone out into the world; they do not acknowledge the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.'
And then in v. 9, referring to the same false teaching, John says:
'Anyone who does not remain in Christ's teaching but goes beyond it does not have God.'
So in matters of the deity and humanity of Christ, it seems that some beliefs were so serious that those holding them should be judged as false Christians.
It makes sense to think that there could also be some wrong ideas about the Trinity that are equally serious.
I do believe that God often has mercy on Christians who get things seriously wrong without having properly thought things through. But I think there are times when professing Christians promote heretical views on the Trinity after thinking things through, and their beliefs show that they are false believers.
If you're not worshipping the one true Triune God, Yahweh, who revealed Himself in the text of Scripture, then you're worshipping a false deity.
@@IndianaJoe0321 likewise if you not worshipping the ONE true God and worshipping 3!!
Your comment, @@showtime5372, makes it clear that you didn't listen to the posted video. The Trinity doctrine begins with "God is one." In other words, it's monotheism, not tritheism.