Redeemed zoomer back to explain theology we’ve had for years but in a way that my zoomer brain can actually comprehend while teaching me a bit of history along the way. God bless you sir 😂🙏 Ps happy Easter he has risen!
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity: "And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the Lord spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19) "And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29) "Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22) "G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19) "If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4) "and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
"If we were making this stuff up it would be a lot easier to understand" This is my new favorite thing. I always just put this in a box I call "paradoxes that will make sense when God wants me to understand it..." and move on.
Troublechutor, The Bible preaches A TRIUNE GOD, not The Trinity Doctrine which states '"THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"! YOU FAILED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "A TRIUNE GOD" & "THE TRINITY DOCTRINE"! IF GOD IS NOT A TRIUNE GOD, WHY DID JESUS GIVE THE COMMAND TO BAPTISE "In The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit"? God is triune is not the problem - the problem of the Trinity Doctrine is that it states that "THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"? BUT THE BIBLE PREACHES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT! Can you see the contradiction? God is NOT "THREE...persons in ONE" BUT ONE GOD IN THREE FORMS - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT! Why can't God separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God"? JESUS SAID in John 16:27 "I CAME OUT FROM GOD". If there is only ONE God and rightly, than how can Jesus be different Person from God the Father? If Jesus is the Savior and God also claimed He is the ONLY Savior and none else, so did the Bible get confused and anyone speak lie? I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN (Philippians 2:9).
This and your Every denomination explained in 12 minutes videos are truly clarifying; I approach any video attempting to explain such complex and nuanced subjects with a degree of skepticism and hesitancy, but you've proven you have a gift for explaining confusing matters with the utmost respect, accuracy, and clarity. And in such minimal and abbreviated format nonetheless!
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity: "And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19) "And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29) "Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22) "G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19) "If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4) "and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
I always used partialism heresy to explain the trinity because I didn't know how else to explain it, ofc now that I know it's a heresy, I'll stop using it and try to rap my mind around how the trinity actually works. Good video, and keep up the good work
The easiest way, really, is to reiterate the Athanasian Creed. The whole "Father is not Son is not Holy Spirit" triangle thing where they all converge on "is God" is the best visual representation. Though, the clover analogy can be a really good way to lay a foundation, and then explain more in depth how it's not completely accurate. It could be easier for you to explain what the Trinity is not, rather than try to convey what it is.
I see no issue with partialism because that is a limited understanding of what God is. One third of infinity is still infinity. One third of nothing is still nothing. God can be divided and God can also (at the same time) NOT be divided because God is all powerful. Similarly, the “can God create a stone so heavy God cannot move it?” is no puzzle to me; the answer is YES!. God is, was, can be, will be, all things and no things because otherwise God would be limited. We might misunderstand this, but that’s only because we cannot know God as God is.
i'm an ex-mormon that left for Christianity and this is one of the hardest things to wrap my mind around, partially due to the belief i was tough while growing up, tritheism, and partially due to it being so confusing. this video really helped me understand it better, so thank you!
Greetings, the trinity doctrine is confusing, incoherent and foreign to Scripture. There is no such thing as trinity or modalism in Scripture AT ALL. The only place where you will find the concept of 3 in 1 is in the occult! The Bible is about God and humans and not about three gods rolled up into, who knows what. This trinity foolishness will send MANY to the Lake of fire.
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No specific one really, because there are lots of investment plans and strategies littered all over the internet today, for instance, investments like real estates,gold, drop shipping crypto currency and lots more
I am 17 and I'm just bring Christianity into my life so I really appreciate you making these videos because it really helps. Although I'm going to have to watch the video more than once I appreciate that it is here!
Don’t believe in the trinity is all a lie trust me look in history, it was all created by the Roman catholic wen Constantine emperor of Rome made Christianity the main religion of Rome. If you reed the Bible you will see it’s all fake
The trinity wasn’t part of Christianity it was added. It’s all manifestation of God, the son, the father and the holly spirit it’s all manifestations of god
“Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great: He appeared in the flesh, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory.” 1 Timothy 3:16 NIV. It’s all a manifestation
Heavenly Father says (from 10/10/2007 message to Verne Dagenais in 'God speaks will you listen'): "Many in your world teach and believe all religions lead you to God. Many believe it does not matter how you pray because all religions pray to the same God. This is one of the most hideous lies Satan has deceived mankind into believing. These lies are causing many to spend eternity in Hell. There is only one way to Heaven. Partial truth will not gain you entrance to My Kingdom.
My Son stated; "I am the Way and the Truth and the Life. No man comes to the Father but by Me (John14:6)." My Son is the bridge and the gate into My Kingdom. Without My Son’s Life in your soul, you will suffer eternal death. My Word further states: "He that hates Me hates My Father also (John 15:23)." Further My Word states: "Whosoever denies the Son, the same has not the Father. He that confesses the Son, has the Father also (1 John 2:23)." For My Son also stated: "I and the Father are one (John 10:30) and he that sees Me sees the Father also (John 14:9)." You cannot have a relationship with your Father without My Son. You MUST have My Son’s Divine Life in your soul and be in Sanctifying Grace to enter Heaven. There are no exceptions to this rule. These are the Eternal Laws spoken by the Almighty.
Satan is trying to trap and deceive My children into denying these Truths. All religions teach partial Truth, except the Holy Roman Catholic Church. It is the Only Church which teaches the fullness or completeness of My Revelation to mankind. All other Christian denominations only teach partial truth. This is the design of Satan. Satan knows how mankind enters Heaven. He knows by denying My Son (in the Holy Eucharist) and refusing My Son’s mercy (given through the Sacraments), will send a soul to Hell."
I was not able to put Jesus in the equation spiritually. I was able to connect with God and the Holy Spirit but Jesus was a deeply intangible variable in this equation (mostly because of his human nature). Even though I still need to re-watch your video approximately 100 more times, it did moved something in me spiritually. Thank you very much!
Look into the Targums (Jewish historical text) buddy. John was writing to an audience that understood his literature. According to the Targums, the word of the lord is called God and was the creator of the world. He’s also called the Angel of the covenant and the Shekinah. The Targums explicitly calls the word of the lord, the son of God. Even Jewish mysticism attributes the Shekinah as the Son of God. If you read the Bible in its historical context, you would appreciate it better. Look into the early church fathers that died believing in their faith and they are the ones that brought you the Bible you have in your hands today 😊 Have lots to say, but TH-cam isn’t the best communication channel. That said buddy, have a good day and stay blessed
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity: "And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the Lord spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19) "And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29) "Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22) "G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19) "If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4) "and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
@@cinesanti7 Even though it has been also difficult for me to fully accept Jesus's Godly nature, the scriptures you referred does not seem to disprove it. What I'm about to write is only the logic of the New Testament (you may or may not accept) not arguments to present you as wrong, just arguments that the New Testament claims Jesus to be the same God as Abraham's, Isaac's and Jacob's. - Jesus is not a hand made creation of man, in fact he was conceived by God. Therefore he does not seem to be lifeless handmade idol, nor descendant of Adam, inheriting original sin. - Jesus actively directs everyone to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Therefore he is not a human who deceives other's to follow different gods, in fact, he wants people to follow the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. - The Trinity nature describes how Jesus is not a different God than the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Therefore following Jesus means to follow the very same God (this part is tricky to understand, I admit) - The New Testament only claims that the Jewish God is not only the God of the Jews, but every gentiles', too. And that accepting this God our heart needs to be altered by seeking God, not only our actions needs to be altered by the Jewish Laws (that originally would have helped to change the hearts but for most people following the Laws become only a lifeless routine rather than an approaching act to God). And for this heart altering process we don't need a phisical temple and appointed priest who are the only ones to contact with God. And this is possible because of the self-sacrifice of God, who is also his own Son. Because only sacrificing God can restore the possibility of direct connection for man with God. I don't think that these things contradict with the Old Testament. They are just really, really, REALLY strange approach to them that I can completely understand why it is difficult to accept. And I don't blame anyone from Jewish background claiming it to be at least a misinterpretation. From my side, as a raised Christian, I like the idea (and the experience) that I can go to God directly. That I don't need any mediation, nor ritual. And I can't see any other explanation how it changed over the history other than the story of Jesus. Even if it is also difficult for me to understand.
I have been born again in June 2021, after being absent or even an enemy of God for 30 years. I was baptised catholic as a baby and had to attended mass every sunday, first communion, altar boy, firmation, all of it. It is shocking to me - that I was really believing in God, what is easy, if you are brought up that way, but how defensless and vulnerable I was to the world and it's teachings, because there was no interlectual backup of my believe. I wouldn't have been able to knit together a coherent explanation of the Gospel at age 18. I never really heard something about the trinity. Never knew the importance of scripture and how everything ties together. It is really irresponsable of such churches. Or maybe even on purpose? I don't know... It is really hard, to return to faith, after your head has been filled with all the knowledge and explanation of the world, how the world works. But luckily, God can do anything and has supernatural means. And we are created to believe.
I don't think its intentional, it's really dense stuff for children or young adults to understand. Even at age 29/30 myself I can barely begin to comprehend. The problem is young people are being targeted to be led astray, exactly because of what you are saying. I'm not sure what could be done, it's sad really.
It’s a difficult concept for a young person took me years as a catholic to understand the trinity , infact im still trying to comprehend it, but the name trinity and concept,came from early catholic scholars, it’s in the bible but the church took a while to flesh the idea out as we know,it, it was the feast of the holy trinity the other day you would have experienced that if you were a catholic but understandably might not of understood it. I also came to appreciate my,baptism as a baby and say the baptismal vows for myself, I hope for all,Catholics to appreciate the true meaning of born again. We are born again through baptism which is,where we are born of water,and spirit,ie the grace of god, it’s sad to not understand that the sacrament were gods Grace freely given thanks to our parents who,presented us to lord who graced us on that special day. Regarding ‘born again experiences’.you could try the blessed,sacrament, it can be v moving in the spirit to be face to face with our lord.
I’m glad you were born again but that church is obviously not catholic. Catholics recognize the trinity and are very strict about that fact. If it was a Catholic Church then I’m so sorry you had such a bad experience. It does not represent Catholicism as a whole 🙏
@@insertfunnynamehere8617 Oh, it definitely was. The big ol' roman catholic church, with it's liturgy and songs, you can follow a service anywhere in the world. And of course I HEARAD about these things, but because the emphasis is on rituals, traditions, sacraments and other wrong stuff, God's word is not put forward very much. And I was an A student in both church and school in religion class. Catholics DON'T KNOW the gospel, and the Bible - otherwise they wouldn't act as the do. The don't know that the Bible is coherent from front to back and the role Jesus has. Not really. It's very mumbly.
I was actually trying to find some videos explaining the Trinity to talk to someone I met who is Oneness, and this video came up. I think this is going to be super helpful! Thank you!!
"The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by the Catholic Church in the second century." [ The Catholic Encyclopedia, II, page 263 ] Here the authors which is Catholics acknowledged that the baptismal formula was changed by their church. What else need to be said?
@@efootballmania What needs to be said is the fact that I just read that page in response to your comment, and nowhere on there does it say what you “quoted”. Please check your sources. I feel like I should add that I’m not even Catholic.
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Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity: "And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the Lord spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19) "And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29) "Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22) "G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19) "If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4) "and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
@@djparsons7363 What's your problem with the Trinity? My understanding of the essential nature of the concept is that God is both the Greatest (the Father) and the Smallest (the Spirit), and also with us humans in between those two extremes (the Son). God fills the whole universe! And even we humans have a place in Heaven :-)
@@ChristianCatboy The problem is, it is a lie that blasphemes God and Christ! The trinity is not Christian, the origin of the trinity doctrine is in pagan false religions! The Bible is clear, God HATES a lie, so why would anyone want to make a lie part of their worship? Your worship is worthless to God, He is not part of a trinity! The ONLY humans who have a place in Heaven are the 144,000, no others will ever be in Heaven. Your religion has been teaching lies for centuries, it's time for people to wake up and learn the truth!
Glad I watched this, I was thinking of the trinity in modalism terms, but never considered how each person of the trinity interacted with one another. After I heard the description, I started thinking this, then busted out laughing when the three phases of water analogy came up because that's exactly how I was thinking about it.
I am not an atheist, I am a Muslim (my honest try to think:) the 3 in 1 god is not logical the God is almighty is logical the God is all know is logical the God is the creator of every thing is logical ... and People are trying to convince themselves of this idea, And make the topic as logical as possible Let us acknowledge that these are three completely different entity that cannot be put into one thing (human, angel, and a GOD). No matter how hard you try to think or make your way of thinking logical, it will never become that way... *THE end of my argument * As a sincere Muslim , I invite you to try reading the Qur’an not just as an experience but a step to know how muslim think and to following the truth (how can you know the truth while you're not searching and
@@أسامهالعريفي-ف9ه you make a good point, that is: no matter how hard we try, we can never fully understand the mystery of the Trinity. God is beyond us, so we can't expect to understand Him in human terms. In legend, St. Augustine was walking down the beach trying to understand the Trinity when he encountered a child on the beach who was taking water from the ocean and pouring it into a hole he had made in the sand. Augustine asked what he was doing and the child replied, "I'm going to put the whole ocean into this hole." Augustine scoffed and said, "Silly child, this is simply not possible." The child stood up, faced Augustine and said, "and you'll never be able to fit the Trinity into your tiny head." Then the child floated into heaven. Maybe we, as Christians, should take this same humility and just accept the Trinity in faith. Sometimes, the constant search for truth draws us too much into ourselves, instead of into faith with God. This was a great realization of St. Augustine from his book Confessions, that in his quest for truth he often forgot to just simply have faith. I appreciate your invitation to read the Qur'an. I've actually considered reading it and thought about experiencing Islam to better understand it. I admired many Muslims who show great love and care for strangers and the poor. However, I have heard in Islam that Jesus will return to judge. If only God can judge, why is Jesus the one judging? He must be God according to logic.
@@أسامهالعريفي-ف9هYes, God is logical at the same time is a being that is so much complex that we cannot even comprehend the very things his Will. And no, a book about a Prophet that we must follow that works for Allah(god) a warlord, slaverer and deceitful that very contradicts a God's prophet that kepts Its sins, other than Jesus? Also, the very irony that Quaran says that the Torah and the Gospel is the word of God, but Quran says that they're both Corrupted, buh again it is stated that the Word of God cannot be Corrupted...now that is complex and I really cannot comprehend your teachings there buddy.
dwolf2369, The Bible preaches A TRIUNE GOD, not The Trinity Doctrine which states '"THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"! YOU FAILED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "A TRIUNE GOD" & "THE TRINITY DOCTRINE"! IF GOD IS NOT A TRIUNE GOD, WHY DID JESUS GIVE THE COMMAND TO BAPTISE "In The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit"? God is triune is not the problem - the problem of the Trinity Doctrine is that it states that "THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"? BUT THE BIBLE PREACHES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT! Can you see the contradiction? God is NOT "THREE...persons in ONE" BUT ONE GOD IN THREE FORMS - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT! Why can't God separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God"? JESUS SAID in John 16:27 "I CAME OUT FROM GOD". If there is only ONE God and rightly, than how can Jesus be different Person from God the Father? If Jesus is the Savior and God also claimed He is the ONLY Savior and none else, so did the Bible get confused and anyone speak lie? I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN.
@@walterusalbus The Holy Spirit only proceeds from the Father according to EOs. The “Filioque” (and the Son) is a fabrication that wasn’t included in the original nicene creed, but was added by the bishop of Rome who was usurping his power over the eastern churches. This, along with other disputes, led to the Great Schism of 1054.
@TheEthiopianEunuchorn1 is basically saying the Roman Catholics fabricated (changed) scripture and added the word "Filioque" (and the Son) to make it seem like The Holy Spirit proceeds from The Father AND The Son (Jesus Christ), when in reality, The Holy Spirit proceeds from The Father alone.@@icezebra
Does a Christian need to believe in the Trinity to be saved? And if so, why did our Savior, nor the disciples, ever teach the doctrine of the Trinity? Why would Christians give credence to a council of men coming together to argue who God is (The Council of Nicaea in 325 CE), and thereby seek to define God? Can mankind define God? No, God reveals Himself to mankind. 1 John 5:7-8, The Johannine Comma is an interpolation according to Christian scholars (words added) to the Bible by over-zealous Trinitarians, who wanted some testimony to the Trinity, due to the fact that in the Bible there is none. Matthew 28:19 has come under suspicion, a commandment allegedly given by Christ to the disciples, but the disciples only baptized in the Savior’s name only, as demonstrated in the Book of Acts. The early church historian Eusebius, wrote (published circa 316 CE) in his book, Matthew 28:19, that Christ actually said, "Go and make disciples of all the nations in my name" (Eusebius, The History of the Church, p. 68, PENGU1N CLASSICS, 1965). The Trinity has only really existed since the 4th century. Historian H.G. Wells factually stated, "There is no evidence that the apostles of Jesus ever heard of the Trinity-at any rate from Him" (The Outline of History, Vol. 2, p. 499). Martin Luther is quoted in a sermon saying, "It is indeed true that the name 'Trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man" (The Sermons of Martin Luther, Vol. 3, p. 406, 1988). It is time that the false Trinity Doctrine cease to exist in Christianity! Catholics and Protestants agree that “Whoever will be saved: before all things, it is necessary to keep the Catholic faith… unless he keeps this faith whole, he will perish everlastingly...And the Catholic faith is this: we worship one God in Trinity” (Catholicism, p. 69, 1961). Protestant professor of Theology James White, states, “The Trinity doctrine is misunderstood as well as ignored. It is so misunderstood that a majority of Christians when asked, give incorrect and at times downright heretical definitions of the Trinity” (James White, The Forgotten Trinity, p. 16). According to James White, around 75% of Christians, who think themselves to be Trinitarians, are actually Modalists. Modalism: One God who at different times represents Himself in three different modes of being: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. If belief in the Trinity doctrine is so critical to our salvation, then why did Christ and the disciples not preach the Trinity, which historically developed over 300 years after Christ? To say that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, when Christ never stipulated the doctrine as a prerequisite for salvation is the grossest form of legalism! The man-made Trinity Doctrine is so ingrained into the imagination of Christians for salvation when Christ and the apostles never ever taught it, that many will actually stand condemned for believing in the Trinity according to the Tradition of men, and not of God. Christ warned us about teaching doctrines without one thus says the LORD! And He...said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men…” He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition” (Mark 7:6-9). Christians do not need to believe in the Trinity in order to receive salvation and eternal life in the Kingdom of God! If Christians needed to believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, then it would be taught in the New Testament by our Lord and Savior, and it, the Trinity, was not taught in the New Testament. The Trinity is a useless Doctrine based solely on the misunderstanding of men. It is time for Christians to free themselves from the doctrines of men. The Son of God declared: “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:58). YAH is the meaning of I AM. By this statement, Christ told the Jews that He is their God, the very God of Israel. Not to take this statement as true in that He, the Son of God, is lesser than His Father and God is tantamount to calling Him a liar. Based on everything presented here, the statement by churches that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved is the highest form of legalism. But doesn’t Elohim prove the Trinity, after all it is plural. No. Elohim means Gods. The Trinity is the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God, and yet not three Gods [Elohim], One God [Eloah, or EL]. The true definition of Elohim is the God of gods (Deuteronomy 10:17).
@@S.R.M. I'm surprised but also expected that you were not using John 17 in your argument. Because it will be confusing to explain what happened when Jesus prayed in Gethsemane before He was caught with the Oneness philosophy. Like, to whom He was prayed? Is He some demiurge here, by calling out to the Father to glorify Himself with the glory He had with The Father before the world began? Or is He the God himself? If He and The Father are one being in that garden, does that mean He prayed to Himself alone? Or maybe it's the human nature of Jesus that is praying? But why did He ask The Father to glorify Himself if it's human nature that is praying?
@@yafethtb Actually trinitarians believe the father and Jesus are one being Jesus is the manifestation of God which was in word form at the beginning of creation with the glory of the father
@@yafethtb Besides there is not one verse that clearly describes the trinity anywhere It's a doctrine made by a patch work of verses interpretations and reinterpretations It's not right
"The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by the Catholic Church in the second century." [ The Catholic Encyclopedia, II, page 263 ] Here the authors which is Catholics acknowledged that the baptismal formula was changed by their church. What else need to be said?
4:02 "But think about it. If we were making this stuff up, we would make it a lot more easy to understand." How does this follow? It's totally possible for a claim to be complicated and also wrong. You would also expect something with thousands of years of history to become more complex over time. Is Hindu theology true because it's more complex?
This. Anyone who's been in a Fandom of a long running series can tell you that things get complicated with just a few years of writing. Now imagine thousands of years dozens of books and countless war about what is and isn't canon lol.
But if something is spread throughout the entire world, different cultures and peoples will come to different conclusions and understandings. I think the point he is trying to make is that although people may not agree with whatever church they are near teaches, they still keep their faith rather than casting the idea of god out the window because they know that god exists. That does show that people believe that Christianity is the truth, just taught incorrectly. Which definitely should be taken account when debating the legitimacy of Christianity being the truth. Why would they not give up their faith all together?
Romans 10:9-10 “If you declare with your mouth, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.”
@@KingdomofJerusalem123 jesus isnt god. god is god. jesus is jesus. god didnt take a dump, nor did he send commandments only to carry out those very commandments. there is no 'lead by example' with god, he isn't a manager. he is an authority to which we obey unquestioningly.
mycatischunki, The Bible preaches A TRIUNE GOD, not The Trinity Doctrine which states '"THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"! YOU FAILED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "A TRIUNE GOD" & "THE TRINITY DOCTRINE"! IF GOD IS NOT A TRIUNE GOD, WHY DID JESUS GIVE THE COMMAND TO BAPTISE "In The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit"? God is triune is not the problem - the problem of the Trinity Doctrine is that it states that "THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"? BUT THE BIBLE PREACHES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT! Can you see the contradiction? God is NOT "THREE...persons in ONE" BUT ONE GOD IN THREE FORMS - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT! Why can't God separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God"? JESUS SAID in John 16:27 "I CAME OUT FROM GOD". If there is only ONE God and rightly, than how can Jesus be different Person from God the Father? If Jesus is the Savior and God also claimed He is the ONLY Savior and none else, so did the Bible get confused and anyone speak lie? I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN.
@@alphonsedenny4962 I’m not sure why you sent this but I wasn’t being sarcastic, I was actually thanking him. I do believe in the Trinity. Thanks though 🙏
Blessed and dare I say, based, video. Even after all this time for me, it can get confusing to explain the trinity. Thank you for making this in an easy way to share with others. It's quick, concise, and relatively detailed.
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity: "And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19) "And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29) "Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22) "G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19) "If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4) "and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
The true faith of monotheism can't get any more clear; God is one, he with no partners besides him. But the sad nature of the human being is to fall into idol worship, creating new religions that only please Satan. And so forth making confusion, and repelling people from the light of their Lord.
I like how it was brought out that all Three share the same will and mind (0:47). This helps to balance the usage of the word "person," which, especially in English, is easily misunderstood to be a being with independent mind and will, which does not apply to each of the Trinity. The word "person" shouldn't be pushed to far. Otherwise it will result in tritheism (even if we don't admit it). While sharing the same will and mind, the Three still have personal inter-relatedness. It's beyond human language for sure. But it's not beyond our experience and enjoyment (2 Cor. 13:14)! Praise the Triune God!
Because it‘s a conceptualization of what has been revealed of God‘s essence in the Scriptures. As St. Paul says it‘s like looking through a dirty mirror. The light partially shines through but this doesn‘t make the light less true, it just makes it incomplete. It can only be fully perceived and understood in the afterlife.
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity: "And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19) "And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29) "Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22) "G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19) "If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4) "and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
@@HE4DSHOT059 That's a good question! Like Peter recognized, the words that Jesus spoke were the words of life, meaning the words were used to convey and impart life. Although human language cannot fully describe the divine things, it can still convey them to us (as @dvinb pointed out). But it requires us to use the right organ to receive and enjoy what is being conveyed to us. It's not enough to try to know God according to our mentality. We need to turn our hearts to Him and call on the Lord, "O Lord Jesus!" to touch Him in our spirit (John 4:24), not our mind.
So, that thing about Christian Science not acknowledging the Trinity made me dive a little deeper, and it’s worse than just denying the Trinity. They also deny that Christ’s sacrifice had any significance and say that God isn’t a person at all, that He’s just existence… it is beyond weird.
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity: "And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19) "And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29) "Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22) "G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19) "If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4) "and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
I want to try to help you with some of these questions, I am new to the faith but I have also thought about these things before. I can tell that you're not saying this out of bitterness or anger, it's very respectable that you still keep his commandments despite being somewhat confused. What you said about our desires being given to us by God, remember that we distort their true use into sin. Without pain, hunger, attraction, we would get hurt more, starve, and die out. Understand that your struggles and sin is not God's ideal, nor was it ordained in you. At the end you sounded somewhat frustrated with the 'futility' of christian life and virtue. Christianity is not just about "death to self", it is about being born again in Christ. In the moment, and the beginning, it may feel like a terrible battle which will never end. Remember that one part of the Trinity is the Holy Spirit, Jesus calls it our comforter. The Holy Spirit is meant to change our desires so that this fight against our flesh begins to fade away. Look into C.S Lewis for more about this. Lastly you mentioned suffering. Know that this world we're in is not the ideal, or the design, it is a fallen world because of our own terrible sin. The reason for the Tree in the garden and all other suffering is so that we have free will to love God. We cannot truly love God if we're forced into doing so. There's nothing virtuous about Adam and Eve being trapped in a garden with no choice in anything. The entire story of the Bible and creation is love deafeating suffering. God allows evil in the world, suffering in your life, and Jesus to be tortured, so that love could overcome the evil in the world. It doesn't always look that way I know, but if God truly wanted to avoid all evil he would also have to avoid all love. You probably still have many questions, so do I, it is just important that you stay faithful and trusting of God (to be honest you seem to have a stronger faith than I do). Just know that this life is not meant to be torturous, and that many of these questions have answers. God Bless.
Pope Dionysius “Next, then, I may properly turn to those who divide and cut apart and destroy the most sacred proclamation of the Church of God, making of it [the Trinity], as it were, three powers, distinct substances, and three godheads. . . . [Some heretics] proclaim that there are in some way three gods, when they divide the sacred unity into three substances foreign to each other and completely separate” (Letter to Dionysius of Alexandria 1 [A.D. 262] “Therefore, the divine Trinity must be gathered up and brought together in one, a summit, as it were, I mean the omnipotent God of the universe. . . . It is blasphemy, then, and not a common one but the worst, to say that the Son is in any way a handiwork [creature]. . . . But if the Son came into being [was created], there was a time when these attributes did not exist; and, consequently, there was a time when God was without them, which is utterly absurd” (ibid., 1-2). “Neither, then, may we divide into three godheads the wonderful and divine unity. . . . Rather, we must believe in God, the Father Almighty; and in Christ Jesus, his Son; and in the Holy Spirit; and that the Word is united to the God of the universe. ‘For,’ he says, ‘The Father and I are one,’ and ‘I am in the Father, and the Father in me’” (ibid., 3). St Gregory the Wonderworker “There is one God. . . . There is a perfect Trinity, in glory and eternity and sovereignty, neither divided nor estranged. Wherefore there is nothing either created or in servitude in the Trinity; nor anything superinduced, as if at some former period it was non-existent, and at some later period it was introduced. And thus neither was the Son ever wanting to the Father, nor the Spirit to the Son; but without variation and without change, the same Trinity abides ever” (Declaration of Faith [A.D. 265] St Sechnall of Ireland “Hymns, with Revelation and the Psalms of God [Patrick] sings, and does expound the same for the edifying of God’s people. This law he holds in the Trinity of the sacred Name and teaches one being in three persons” (Hymn in Praise of St. Patrick 22 [A.D. 444] St Patrick of Ireland “I bind to myself today the strong power of an invocation of the Trinity-the faith of the Trinity in unity, the Creator of the universe” (The Breastplate of St. Patrick 1 [A.D. 447] “There is no other God, nor has there been heretofore, nor will there be hereafter, except God the Father unbegotten, without beginning, from whom is all beginning, upholding all things, as we say, and his Son Jesus Christ, whom we likewise to confess to have always been with the Father-before the world’s beginning. . . . Jesus Christ is the Lord and God in whom we believe . . . and who has poured out on us abundantly the Holy Spirit . . . whom we confess and adore as one God in the Trinity of the sacred Name” (Confession of St. Patrick 4 [A.D. 452] St Augustine “All the Catholic interpreters of the divine books of the Old and New Testaments whom I have been able to read, who wrote before me about the Trinity, which is God, intended to teach in accord with the Scriptures that the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit are of one and the same substance constituting a divine unity with an inseparable equality; and therefore there are not three gods but one God, although the Father begot the Son, and therefore he who is the Son is not the Father; and the Holy Spirit is neither the Father nor the Son but only the Spirit of the Father and of the Son, himself, too, coequal to the Father and to the Son and belonging to the unity of the Trinity” (The Trinity1:4:7 [A.D. 408] St Fulgence of Ruspe “See, in short you have it that the Father is one, the Son another, and the Holy Spirit another; in Person, each is other, but in nature they are not other. In this regard he says: ‘The Father and I, we are one’ (John 10:30). He teaches us that one refers to their nature, and we are to their Persons. In like manner it is said: ‘There are three who bear witness in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Spirit; and these three are one’ (1 John 5:7)” (The Trinity 4:1-2 [c. A.D. 515] “But in the one true God and Trinity it is naturally true not only that God is one but also that he is a Trinity, for the reason that the true God himself is a Trinity of Persons and one in nature. Through this natural unity the whole Father is in the Son and in the Holy Spirit, and the whole Holy Spirit, too, is in the Father and in the Son. None of these is outside any of the others; because no one of them precedes any other of them in eternity or exceeds any other in greatness, or is superior to any other in power” (The Rule of Faith 4 [c. A.D. 523)
Actually, anyone who believes that Jesus was God has nullified the sacrifice he made in their minds. Because God can NEVER die. Plus NOTHING was paid TO God. Compare 2 Corinthians 4:4 to figure out who is behind such a teaching.
A minute in and I can tell you that Jesus is NOT all knowing since he doesn’t know when the final hour is and said only the father does. Every time I bring this up Christians say this is because he’s still a man, but how is he God without being all knowing?
Watching more of the video it’s been addressed 3:06 but this doesn’t make any sense… Jesus has 2 modes? Human mode and God mode and he doesn’t have to submit to the father when he’s in God mode? If he’s asked when the final hour is, and can find out if he could turn on his “God mode” why didn’t he just say that instead of saying ONLY the father knows? This means there is information Jesus has no access to at all
Also saying “Jesus worships the father according to his human nature because he’s the perfect human and all humans are supposed to submit to the father” is heresy by Christian terms since you guys worship the father by worshipping Jesus, which isn’t something Jesus did… and if you did worship the father directly (through the teachings of Jesus like Jesus did) you’d then be a Muslim
Jesus was fully God and fully man, and he was the first example of what a Holy Spirit filled individual was like. He knew everything, but chose not to have access to it so he would be led by the Spirit at all times. He wanted to have a truly human experience here on earth, and all the things he did was because he, in his flesh, followed after the Spirit.
@@heisnahominstead of insulting, why don't you give him the debunk since it's so popular that everyone who doesn't know it is "living under a rock" apparently
Seeing this gives me hope for your generation. Explained well and weeded out to possible heresies to which it may lead. Keep doing what you know is right, brother!
God isn't weak, dependent or ignorant as Jesus was, also God doesn't need to pray to God and beg him for help like Jesus did. Don't worship a brown middle-eastern man that never asked to be worshipped or EVER said "I am God"
There is not a single verse in the Bible that describes the doctrine of the trinity The doctor of the trinity is just a patch work of different verses and interpretations when not aligning have to be reinterpreted
I'm still very confused, mans just said everything I believed was a lie. Pulled up a fat scripture and was like "this is the explanation' and then said "ask ur church." But like tbh I can't even complain. Thanks dude.
@@Fanciduck No it makes no sense. Trinity doesn't exist in the first 300years after Christ's death. Neither was the holy spirit worshipped. They made it up, because God didn't guide them.
@@walkerjobe6964 But yet the Gospels very clearly teach the Trinity. Thomas called Jesus his Lord and his God (John 20:28), John called Jesus the true God and eternal life (1 John 5:20), Paul called Jesus our God and Savior (Titus 2:13), and the Father Himself also called His Son God (Hebrews 1:8).
@@TheDigitalMissionary Then why did they have to make up trinity. 300 years later, not to forget. Why don't they just say trinity in the gospel. Why wasn't holyspirit worshipped in early churches. Why does Jesus pray and declares obedience to the father.
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity: "And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19) "And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29) "Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22) "G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19) "If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4) "and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
FYI - 'gospel' simply means "good news" and Jesus taught his followers to preach "the good news of the kingdom" - Matthew 24:14 That is the true 'gospel' - Jesus never taught a 'Trinity' which is complete nonsense just like the video - total rubbish!
@@roystonboodoo7525 .. certainly not a Christian. Nowhere does the bible support a 'triune' God or 'Trinity' teaching. The bible defines Christianity - the belief that 'God is 3 persons' was never taught by Jesus or his apostles or the early Christian congregations. Jesus did warn about apostasy and false teachers - Matthew 24:4 & 5 Genuine Christians are not deceived by rubbish videos such as this.
¨The Trinity is a mystery that cannot be comprehended by human reason but is understood by faith and is best confessed in the words of the Athanasian Creed which states that we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; neither confounding the Persons: nor dividing the Substance. That we are compelled by the Christian faith to confess that each distinct person is God and Lord and that the deity of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit is one equal in glory, coequal in majesty.¨
The Trinity concept originated in the Catholic Church in the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD(300 years after the death of Jesus) and you can read that from their books the Trinity concept was adapted also by the Protestant Churches. Jesus never ever taught such a thing. Jesus himself prayed to the Father who is the one and only true GOD ALMIGHTY. Jesus said that the true worshippers would be worshipping the Father...not himself. ( John 4: 23, 24 )| Mark 10:18 ““Why do you call Me good?” Jesus replied. “No one is good except God alone.”
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity: "And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19) "And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29) "Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22) "G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19) "If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4) "and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
my notes: • modalism: three forms, one god • partialism: three parts, one god • tritheism: three beings who work together, one god • trinitarian: three persons, one god • subordinationism: the son submits to the father (which is true but only when he was on earth). conclusion: they have a ism for everything but all agree there is one god who somehow consists of/as father, son, holy spirit.
luxbookplanners, The Bible preaches A TRIUNE GOD, not The Trinity Doctrine which states '"THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"! YOU FAILED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "A TRIUNE GOD" & "THE TRINITY DOCTRINE"! IF GOD IS NOT A TRIUNE GOD, WHY DID JESUS GIVE THE COMMAND TO BAPTISE "In The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit"? God is triune is not the problem - the problem of the Trinity Doctrine is that it states that "THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"? BUT THE BIBLE PREACHES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT! Can you see the contradiction? God is NOT "THREE...persons in ONE" BUT ONE GOD IN THREE FORMS - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT! Why can't God separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God"? JESUS SAID in John 16:27 "I CAME OUT FROM GOD". If there is only ONE God and rightly, than how can Jesus be different Person from God the Father? If Jesus is the Savior and God also claimed He is the ONLY Savior and none else, so did the Bible get confused and anyone speak lie? I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN.
@@alphonsedenny4962 it was a little hard to follow your comment because of your writing style, but i believe you’re saying your belief is modalism. according to the video modalism is 3 forms, 1 god. then you went on to explain why you believe that.
@@luxbookplanners , I am NOT a Modalist. I have stated my believe and invite people to ask me questions on what I had stated. I do NOT think my believe & understanding of the Bible is the same as a modalist. I do not belong to any Christian Denominations.
@@luxbookplanners , WATER CAN BECOME ICE OR VAPOUR, BUT IT IS STILL WATER! Why can't God The Father YHWH separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God" TO DO HIS WILL BECAUSE "No one can see God and live" EXO 33:20?? GOD CAN BE SEPARATE BUT NOT DISTINCT! ONE GOD THE FATHER YHWH IN THREE FORMS IS STILL ONE GOD THE FATHER YHWH! JESUS SAID THAT HE IS THE ALMIGHTY GOD in Revelation 1:8! Isaiah said in Isaiah 9:6 that JESUS IS THE ETERNAL FATHER! JOHN 10:28 "I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one.” BEING HUMAN, Jesus said that His Father is greater than all! - BUT YOU STATED "So it is not Jesus who is greater than all, but his Father" - YOU MUST BE AN IDIOT! DIDN'T JESUS SAY "and no one will snatch them out of my hand" & "and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand" - DOESN'T THIS SHOW US THAT JESUS IS TELLING US THAT HIS HAND IS HIS FATHER'S HAND? JESUS CONFIRMS THIS " I and the Father are one.”! JESUS SAID THAT HE IS THE ALMIGHTY GOD in Revelation 1:8! Isaiah said in Isaiah 9:6 that JESUS IS THE ETERNAL FATHER! Yes, the Bible does state/preach that Jesus is "the Son of God" - CAN GOD HAVE A "SON"? ANSWER:NO! JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER YHWH who came down to earth AS "The Son of God" - do you see the word "AS" here? The meaning of "Son of God" in the Bible is GOD IN HIS GLORIFIED BODY! YES, THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD, THE FATHER YHWH. "God" in the Bible is referred to as "Eloha" (singular) sometimes, and as "Elohim" (plural) sometimes BECAUSE "God" IS A PLURALITY OF ONE GOD. THE ONE GOD, THE FATHER YHWH CAN SEPARATE HIMSELF AND TAKE ANY FORM HE WISHES TO DO HIS WILL AND COME TO EARTH. JESUS SAID "I CAME OUT FROM GOD” in John 16:27. When John stated "He WAS God" in John 1:1, the term "God" here refers to God The Father YHWH (John believed that THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD, THE FATHER YHWH). GOD THE FATHER YHWH NEVER HAD A "SON" in the Old Testament time. His "WORD" became His "Son". Bible states in Genesis 19:24 "Then YHWH made it rain sulfur and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah - it came from YHWH, from the heavens". WHO WAS THE YHWH ON EARTH, AT THE SAME TIME? Remember that no one had ever seen God The Father (scripture states), so who was THIS YHWH ON EARTH whom the people of that time saw and worshiped as God? Answer: He was "The Word Of God". The final form "The Word of God" took was as Jesus so as to become the sacrificial lamb to pay the penalty for the sin committed by Adam & Eve. BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, "THE WORD BECAME FLESH". THE BIBLE CLEARLY SHOWS/STATES THAT JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER (in his Glorified Body, now in Heaven) AND BEING "THE ARM" OF GOD, HE IS THE CREATOR. Genesis 19:24 "Then YHWH rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire FROM YHWH out of heaven" - DOESN'T THIS VERSE STATE/SHOW TWO YHWH'S? GENESIS 18:33 "And YHWH went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham" - DOESN'T THIS VERSE SHOW THAT YHWH WAS ON EARTH? John 3:13 "And no man hath ascended up to Heaven but He that came down from Heaven, the Son of Man WHO IS IN HEAVEN" (note that some Bibles have removed the words "He who is in Heaven"). Check online - Abarim Publications' free online interlinear (Greek/English) New Testament. NOTE that Jesus was here telling that He is both on earth and Heaven at the same time! That is, He is in Heaven as God The Father YHWH and on earth as Jesus (YHWH in the flesh form). WATER CAN BECOME ICE OR VAPOUR, BUT IT IS STILL WATER! DURING THE TIME JESUS WAS ON EARTH HE WAS 100% HUMAN, not both human and God as many Christians WRONGLY think/believe. Hebrews 2:7 "Thou madest him a little lower than the angels" & Psalms 8:5 "For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour" ARE PROOF OF THIS. Jesus had made it clear that His miracles were done by God The Father, John 5:30 "I can of mine own self do nothing". If Jesus was God DURING HIS TIME ON EARTH, WHY DID HE PRAY TO GOD THE FATHER ASKING FOR HIS GLORY TO BE RESTORED? This show that He had NO GLORY during His time on earth. Can God suffer pain, can God feel hungry, tired, thirsty? Can God die - BEING HUMAN, Jesus died! BEING HUMAN, Jesus prayed to God The Father YHWH saying “You are the only true God”. BEING HUMAN, Jesus said “the father is greater than I” John 14:28. BEING HUMAN, Jesus said "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the Son, but the Father only" MATTHEW 24:36. AFTER HE ASCENDED TO HEAVEN , HE RECEIVED BACK HIS GLORY (His Name YHWH and His Title "God" - "Thy Throne O God") - Philippians 2:9. GOD THE FATHER WILL NEVER CALL ANYONE ELSE "GOD” EXCEPT HIMSELF (in the flesh)! THE IMPORTANT FACT IS WHO IS JESUS NOW IN HEAVEN, not what He was during His short time on earth! It is very important that one should know and believe that JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER (in His Glorified Body). If this is not very important, then WHY DID JESUS SAY IN JOHN 8:24 “FOR IF YE BELIEVE NOT THAT I AM HE, YE SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS”. Who does the “HE” refer to? THE CONTEXT OF THIS SPEECH WAS ABOUT GOD THE FATHER. Read verse 27 "They understood not that HE SPAKE TO THEM OF THE FATHER". John 8:28 “WHEN YE HAVE LIFTED UP the Son of man (when you have unveiled ME), then shall ye know that I AM HE (then you will realize that I AM GOD THE FATHER- YHWH in the flesh form)”. Isaiah understood this and said that Jesus is THE ETERNAL FATHER. JESUS SAID THAT HE IS THE ALMIGHTY GOD in Revelation 1:8. John 14:9 "he who has seen me has seen the FATHER" - JESUS DID NOT SAY "he who has seen me has seen "His Son"! The Holy Spirit is the spirit of God The Father and Jesus. JOHN14:23 - JESUS SAID "I AND MY FATHER WILL COME AND DWELL IN YOU" - HOW? ANSWER: AS THE HOLY SPIRIT. John 14:16 (KJV) "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you". I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN.
Thank you for your videos. I've been getting back into the faith after struggling for a long time, and your videos along with the weird bible podcast have really given me relatable content to understand and bring me closer to God. I hope you had a good Easter.
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity: "And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19) "And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29) "Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22) "G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19) "If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4) "and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
It’s not. It’s a common theme throughout history. The Hindus did it with puranic Hinduism (the Trimurti of Shiva, Vishnu, and Brahma all being Brahman). There is Hecate who is the triple goddess in Greek mythology. It’s arguable that even things like the Fates, the Graces, and the Furies are three personifications on divinity. There was a cult that had Apollo, Helios, and Dionysus as three figures sharing one Godhead (one being twilight, day, and the night or underworld sun). Iirc Artemis also has this with Diana and Selene as well. Even Zeus, Hades, and Poseidon can be considered this and there might have been cults that viewed them as three beings sharing one Godhead, but don’t quote me on that (or any of this really lol). The celts did this nonstop and it seems like half of their deities were triple divinities. Slavs have this a couple of times as well. There is a couple of examples in Norse mythology. It exists in Egyptian mythology. It’s actually so common to link three beings or persons as one god that early psychology really focused on it. What would Jungian psychology be without it lol.
That proves nothing. It's common in literature for a being of respectability to be referred to in the plural. For example, a king would say: "We order you to...", not "I order you to..." It's the same with God. Since He is the uncaused causer, it's only proper to refer to one being in the plural.
@@balkanmapping9934 “common literature” prove to me that this “common literature” was around at the time of Moses This common literature came around in the Victorian era. This “usage of we” was not around before that time
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity: "And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19) "And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29) "Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22) "G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19) "If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4) "and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity: "And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19) "And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29) "Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22) "G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19) "If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4) "and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
OR......................... some people could have just made up some shit and just spread the rumour (Even though the trinity is not in the bible) but... nah your'e right, the more logical conclusion is that god has comes to redeem us WOW............... LOL
Every Christian for the past 2000 years: "if you don't believe like me, you're not a _true_ Christian!" How convenient, that _you_ just so happened upon the truth! No one ever thinks themselves wrong
No. If you do not follow the Nicene Creed, you arent a Christian. This is why multiple christian denominations exist, but only 3 Abrahamic religions exist.
God isn't weak, dependent or ignorant as Jesus was, also God doesn't need to pray to God and beg him for help like Jesus did. Don't worship a brown middle-eastern man that never asked to be worshipped or EVER said "I am God"
More like helping to mislead many. We are warned in the scripture which says, "Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired statement, but test the inspired statements to see whether they originate with God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world." (1 John 4:1) How do we test statements? By comparing them to what God's word, the Bible says. If the first thing that comes out of someone's mouth is a lie, can we believe anything else that person says? (He) said that "the Trinity is the belief that makes Christianity Christianity", but (the Bible) says that Christ makes Christianity, Christianity. So much so that God has named the religion after him. Acts 11:26 says "and it was first in Antioch that the disciples were by divine providence called Christians". They were called Christians, not Trinitarians. Jesus Christ is the central figure of Christianity, not the Trinity which is a pagan doctrine that has nothing to do with Christianity or the Bible! The apostle Paul made it abundantly clear who God is when he said, "For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” there is actually to us one God, the Father". He then went on to make a point that has proven true in the case of this TH-camr when he said, "However, not all have this knowledge". (1 Cor 8:5-7a) The truth is, rather than the Trinity being what makes Christianity, Christianity, it is what makes it apostasy!
@@michaelprince6798your doctrine of oneness comes 100 yrs ago compared to the trinity, which can track its teachings to even John the Apostle. You mentioned 1 John 4, but maybe you should have read it, as well as the other chapters that explains the distinction between the Father, Son, & Holy Spirit. What you follow is idolatrous, & not from God, so try again
user-op9eh5vd5x, The Bible preaches A TRIUNE GOD, not The Trinity Doctrine which states '"THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"! YOU FAILED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "A TRIUNE GOD" & "THE TRINITY DOCTRINE"! IF GOD IS NOT A TRIUNE GOD, WHY DID JESUS GIVE THE COMMAND TO BAPTISE "In The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit"? God is triune is not the problem - the problem of the Trinity Doctrine is that it states that "THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"? BUT THE BIBLE PREACHES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT! Can you see the contradiction? God is NOT "THREE...persons in ONE" BUT ONE GOD IN THREE FORMS - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT! Why can't God separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God"? JESUS SAID in John 16:27 "I CAME OUT FROM GOD". If there is only ONE God and rightly, than how can Jesus be different Person from God the Father? If Jesus is the Savior and God also claimed He is the ONLY Savior and none else, so did the Bible get confused and anyone speak lie? I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN.
This made my head spin from all the contradictions. What you're describing is your god is three gods, but is one god. While I thank you for clarifying this issue, this did not really help my understanding as I just have more questions and general confusion.
This is one the best and most comprehensive explanations of the Trinity that I have seen, and you did it in under 5 minutes! I have shared this video with many in my mail list that I think would also appreciate it. Thank you.
davidwooten6091, The Bible preaches A TRIUNE GOD, not The Trinity Doctrine which states '"THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"! YOU FAILED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "A TRIUNE GOD" & "THE TRINITY DOCTRINE"! IF GOD IS NOT A TRIUNE GOD, WHY DID JESUS GIVE THE COMMAND TO BAPTISE "In The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit"? God is triune is not the problem - the problem of the Trinity Doctrine is that it states that "THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"? BUT THE BIBLE PREACHES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT! Can you see the contradiction? God is NOT "THREE...persons in ONE" BUT ONE GOD IN THREE FORMS - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT! Why can't God separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God"? JESUS SAID in John 16:27 "I CAME OUT FROM GOD". If there is only ONE God and rightly, than how can Jesus be different Person from God the Father? If Jesus is the Savior and God also claimed He is the ONLY Savior and none else, so did the Bible get confused and anyone speak lie? I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN.
@alphonsedenny4962 Jesus said that He is one with the Father. That sums it up. One God, just as my wife and I are one flesh. How will Christ be subject to the Father in the end? And why is the Father referred to as the God of Jesus multiply times throughout the new Testament?
@@vancemiller8500what a joke Vance. Co equal if Jesus is both God the Son and the Son of God, then the Father must be God the Father and the Father of God, otherwise they are not co equal.
@@vancemiller8500Vance what a joke? Ask them to explain how OMNISCIENT GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT doesn't know the day or hour only OMNISCIENT GOD THE FATHER knows the day or hour not even OMNISCIENT GOD THE SON knows the day or hour.
YES THE TRINITY IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE. MADE UP, NOT IN THE BIBLE, THE APOSTLES NEVER TAUGHT THAT OR THE SINNERS PRAYER ANYWHERE IN THE BIBLE, OH YOU CAN FIND THE SINNERS PRAYER, BUT ONLY FROM THE MOUTHS OF FALSE PROPHETS.
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity: "And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19) "And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29) "Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22) "G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19) "If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4) "and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
There's only one analogy for the Trinity which KIND OF works, which is a 4D cube. We cannot comprehend a 4D cube because we live in a 3D world. However, that doesn't mean that a 4D cube is irrational or nonexistent. Mathematical formulas prove that 4D cubes are logical, even though we cannot fully grasp them due to our limited perspective. In the same way, the Trinity cannot be fully grasped due to our limited human perspective, but the Trinity is not irrational or nonexistent. We know that this Being exists thanks to Scripture. (Also, I am so sick and tired of people saying that every trio of pagan gods was the influence for the Trinity...which is a conceptually different Being. Also, Happy Resurrection Sunday!)
@@grasonicus - But 1 x 1 x 1 = 1. Beyond human comprehension doesn't equal irrational, and if you think so, then you believe that we can necessarily understand everything that exists.
@@josephb.4640 You fell for it. Only the stupidest Trinitarians use this one. It means addition and multiplication are interchangeable--4+5+6 (you'd have to use a calculator) may be 15 or 120, who cares? On such a level of intelligence rests the Trinity.
@@pekde that's why you can use the present new testament and disprove the claim of Jesus being god. Trinity is not biblical but result of heretic teachings of the church. PROVE 1) First claim *Matthew 24:36 & Mark 13:32* “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. *1 John 3:20* "in whatever our heart condemns us; for God is greater than our heart and KNOWS ALL THINGS." *Proving that Jesus is not all knowing as he isn't knowledgeable regarding the final hour hence not god as god knows all things* 2) Second claim *John 17:3* “This is eternal life, that they may know you, THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.” *Proving that the father is the only true god* 3) Third claim *John 20:17* Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to MY GOD and your God. '" *Proving Jesus himself didn't consider him god, infact worship the one god, my god and your god, god the father, also if Jesus is God how can a God have a God, it's either Trinity is not biblical or is polytheistic.* Conclusion Trinity isn't biblical and Bible is not preserved, as you find 51 self contradiction in the Bible, proving that the new testament is not the pure gospel of Christ hence not reliable. Proving that a prophet to restore the message of god was required. The claim the Bible is corrupted is historical proven correct by academic and Jewish and Muslim scholars But we muslim believe that the Bible is NOT corrupted by the Christ but by the people to whom Christ preached. If God is all knowing, he can't make mistakes If bible is the word of God, it can't have self contradictions But hence bible has contradicts the doctrine of Trinity we can easily say the Trinity is not biblical and is the heretical teaching of the church.
(Matthew 4:1) Jesus was tempted (James 1:13) God cannot be tempted (John 1:29) Jesus was seen (1 John 4:12) No man has ever seen God (Acts 2:22) Jesus was and is a man, sent by God (Numbers 23:19, Hosea 11:9) God is not a man (Hebrews 5:8-9) Jesus had to grow and learn (Isaiah 40:28) God doesn't ever need to learn (1 Corinthians 15: 3-4) Jesus Died (1 Timothy 1:17) God cannot die (Hebrews 5:7) Jesus needed salvation (Luke 1:37) God doesn't need salvation (John 4:6) Jesus grew weary (Isaiah 40:28) God cannot grow weary (Hebrews 5:7) Jesus needed salvation (Luke 1:37) God doesn't need salvation (John 4:6) Jesus grew weary (Isaiah 40:28) God cannot grow weary (Mark 4:38) Jesus slept (Psalm 121: 2-4) God doesn't sleep (John 5:19) Jesus wasn't all powerful (Isaiah 45: 5-7) God is all powerful (Mark 13:32) Jesus wasn't all knowing (Isaiah 46:9) God is all knowing
@@AntiFurryJihad You need to learn about Jesus. Him being both fully man and fully God rejects your points and you read the Bible as if it is the direct word of God like the Quran is "supposedly" written.
WHY? TERRORISM INCREASES IN ISLAM?...SEE THE god of Darkness Teaching... Muhammad said Allah hates those who don’t accept Islam. (Qur’an 32, 22:38, 30:45). 👉 Jesus said God loves everyone, and he came to lay down his life for the world. (John 3:16; 10:11; 16:27; 1 John 3:16; 4:7-8) Muhammad said, “I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah” (Muslim 1:33) 👉 Jesus said, “He who lives by the sword will die by the sword.” (Matthew 26:52) and, “But I say to you: Do not resist an evildoer. But if anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn the other also” (Matthew 5:9) Muhammad stoned women for adultery. (Muslim 4206) 👉 Jesus said, “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” (John 8:7 [for the sake of argument, I know the pericope adulterae is a textual variant, so here’s a good article in favour of its historicity]) Muhammad permitted stealing from unbelievers. (Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764, Qur’an 8:69, 33:27, 48:20). 👉 Jesus said, “You shall not steal.” (Matthew 19:18; Luke 19:8-9) Muhammad permitted lying. (Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857) 👉 Jesus said, “You shalt not bear false witness.” (Matthew 19:18) Muhammad Koran Sura 2: 191 Slay unbelievers wherever you find Them. 👉 Jesus GO and Share the Salvation because you are my friends as you obey. Muhammad beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys. (Sahih Muslim 4390) 👉 Jesus said, “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you” (Matthew 5:44-45) Muhammad murdered those who insulted him (Bukhari 56:369, 4:241) 👉 Jesus preached forgiveness (Matthew 5:38-39, 18:21-22) Muhammad said, “if anyone attacks you, retaliate in the same manner.” (Qur’an 2:194) 👉 Jesus said, “If someone strikes you on the right, turn to him the other also.” (Matthew 5:39) Muhammad Koran SURA 8:12 ..TERRORIZE UNBELIEVERS BEHEAD CUT THE FINGERS ...terrorist loves to obey.from DARK 👉 Jesus said, “Blessed are the peacemaker@@AntiFurryJihad
My best understanding of the Trinity is based on the metaphor of the tetrahedron. It has four sides, representing how the one God reveals himself as God, Father, Son, Spirit. We serve one God. If you hold a tetrahedron in your hand, you hold one object, representing the One God. The distinctiveness of the persons is preserved since the one object has four facets. The distinct facets are also part of the integral whole while yet being separate. If the tetrahedron is made of transparent glass, you can look through one facet and across to see a different facet facing the inside. This explains how Jesus could say to Phillip, if you have seen me (looking through the transparent Jesus facet), you have seen the Father, (the Father facet). A perfect metaphorical illustration of the Trinity can be found in a transparent glass tetrahedron. Easy... God presents himself as each separate facet singly, or as a combination of facets. For example, if you hold the object so you are looking directly down on it, you will see three facets, Father, Son, Spirit. This is how God presents himself at Jesus’ baptism: Jesus in the water, the Father speaking from heaven, and the Holy Spirit descending as a dove, all three present, yet distinct at the same time. Another example is when Jesus was praying the high priestly prayer in the garden. There, the object is turned to show two facets, the Father and the Son. There are fourteen such combinations of facets that reveal God in the scriptures. (P) What about Jehovah of the O.T.? The name Jehovah is so holy that people of New Testament times never used that word. Instead, they used the word, "Lord". These days, Jews will say, "hashem", the "Name", or the "tetragrammaton", or some other substitute word. When a Christian confesses that "Jesus is Lord" at baptism, they are actually saying, "Jesus is Jehovah". Jehovah went through kenosis and came to earth as a helpless baby so he could die on the cross for our salvation.
I didn't know the Athanasian Creed until I saw this video and needed to work with my own way to logically understand the Holy Trinity. After looking into the creed, I am glad the creed affirms what I always believed the Holy Trinity to be. The basic tl;dr of my perception of God and the Holy Trinity is that God is Holy. Not it the way the God is an individual that is holy, but rather that God = Holy. There is only one way to reconcile with all the conditions of the Holy Trinity in our modern understanding. That is to view God as an adjective in the same way as hot, quick, wet, or yellow. God being an adjective that relates to divinity in some way we haven't understood yet. The Sun is hot. Molten lava is hot. The Sun isn't molten lava. Hot isn't the sun nor molten lava. The Sun isn't 42% hot nor 69% hot, it's just hot. The Sun and molten lava aren't two parts of hot, they are both hot in the entire meaning of the word. The Sun didn't hot 1 year ago and then molten lava manifested as hot, they were both always hot. "Molten lava, are you hot? Like the Sun in the sky?" Molten lava: "I AM." Every condition of the Holy Trinity is easily addressed in this fashion. When you view that God isn't a noun, like how King is a noun, you can truly understand why the Holy Trinity is structured the way it is. This is why I say God = Holy, but even that isn't necessarily true. Holy is defined as sacred for the purpose of God. Holy is defined by God, in any context, but not the other way around. The way I see it, Catholicism believes that God is an adjective that can only describe the Holy Trinity. I believe most would agree, the most questionable thing being the implication that God isn't an entity. God is described as an entity several times in a similar way to the title: Lord. I wouldn't be surprised if this is a strange quirk to the saying like how Google is clearly a noun, but was made into a verb for searching on said search engine. A religious scripture would be the kind of text to make an adjective become a noun like, "Cold spoke to me." Admittedly this is the one thing I don't have a good answer for. I simply believe this to be the case as all my other thoughts on the matter is baseless speculation. I really love this theory since it really brings out the magical and mysterious nature of God while still being completely in line with the core tenants of the faith.
Yes. The Athanasian Creed is very intresting. It is said to be composed in the 5th century in southern France, but it didn't show up until 633 at the fourth council of Toledo. How long has Jesus been dead by that time? If it took that long for the Trinity to be composed (remember, Islam at this point has made it way unto the scen too). Better to trust in the Bible, than to trust in the 'creed' of men that lived long after Jesus walked the streets of Jerusalem. Only suggestion is to read the word of God and see for yourself if you can find that 'triune god' in there. Most people wont. Because Trinity is not read in the Bible, it is thaught by men.
Does a Christian need to believe in the Trinity to be saved? And if so, why did our Savior, nor the disciples, ever teach the doctrine of the Trinity? Why would Christians give credence to a council of men coming together to argue who God is (The Council of Nicaea in 325 CE), and thereby seek to define God? Can mankind define God? No, God reveals Himself to mankind. 1 John 5:7-8, The Johannine Comma is an interpolation according to Christian scholars (words added) to the Bible by over-zealous Trinitarians, who wanted some testimony to the Trinity, due to the fact that in the Bible there is none. Matthew 28:19 has come under suspicion, a commandment allegedly given by Christ to the disciples, but the disciples only baptized in the Savior’s name only, as demonstrated in the Book of Acts. The early church historian Eusebius, wrote (published circa 316 CE) in his book, Matthew 28:19, that Christ actually said, "Go and make disciples of all the nations in my name" (Eusebius, The History of the Church, p. 68, PENGU1N CLASSICS, 1965). The Trinity has only really existed since the 4th century. Historian H.G. Wells factually stated, "There is no evidence that the apostles of Jesus ever heard of the Trinity-at any rate from Him" (The Outline of History, Vol. 2, p. 499). Martin Luther is quoted in a sermon saying, "It is indeed true that the name 'Trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man" (The Sermons of Martin Luther, Vol. 3, p. 406, 1988). It is time that the false Trinity Doctrine cease to exist in Christianity! Catholics and Protestants agree that “Whoever will be saved: before all things, it is necessary to keep the Catholic faith… unless he keeps this faith whole, he will perish everlastingly...And the Catholic faith is this: we worship one God in Trinity” (Catholicism, p. 69, 1961). Protestant professor of Theology James White, states, “The Trinity doctrine is misunderstood as well as ignored. It is so misunderstood that a majority of Christians when asked, give incorrect and at times downright heretical definitions of the Trinity” (James White, The Forgotten Trinity, p. 16). According to James White, around 75% of Christians, who think themselves to be Trinitarians, are actually Modalists. Modalism: One God who at different times represents Himself in three different modes of being: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. If belief in the Trinity doctrine is so critical to our salvation, then why did Christ and the disciples not preach the Trinity, which historically developed over 300 years after Christ? To say that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, when Christ never stipulated the doctrine as a prerequisite for salvation is the grossest form of legalism! The man-made Trinity Doctrine is so ingrained into the imagination of Christians for salvation when Christ and the apostles never ever taught it, that many will actually stand condemned for believing in the Trinity according to the Tradition of men, and not of God. Christ warned us about teaching doctrines without one thus says the LORD! And He...said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men…” He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition” (Mark 7:6-9). Christians do not need to believe in the Trinity in order to receive salvation and eternal life in the Kingdom of God! If Christians needed to believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, then it would be taught in the New Testament by our Lord and Savior, and it, the Trinity, was not taught in the New Testament. The Trinity is a useless Doctrine based solely on the misunderstanding of men. It is time for Christians to free themselves from the doctrines of men. The Son of God declared: “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:58). YAH is the meaning of I AM. By this statement, Christ told the Jews that He is their God, the very God of Israel. Not to take this statement as true in that He, the Son of God, is lesser than His Father and God is tantamount to calling Him a liar. Based on everything presented here, the statement by churches that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved is the highest form of legalism. But doesn’t Elohim prove the Trinity, after all it is plural. No. Elohim means Gods. The Trinity is the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God, and yet not three Gods [Elohim], One God [Eloah, or EL]. The true definition of Elohim is the God of gods (Deuteronomy 10:17).
Here’s one for you: the Docetists. This word comes from the Greek “Dokesis” which means “to appear to be.” They were a heretic group that believed Christ was a being of pure spirit that only appeared to be human. A spirit with no body can’t die or suffer the pain of being crucified so the passion is meaningless.
Why is that a heresy? Jesus is both true man and true God. As such, Jesus is all powerful; therefore, Jesus can be wholly flesh and wholly spirit at the same time.
@Someone else 2 Timothy 2:8 New International Version 8 Remember Jesus Christ, raised from the dead, descended from David. This is my gospel, How and why does that refute the heresy?
*Why did God manifest Himself in flesh* وإذ رأى الكلمة أن فساد البشرية لا يمكن أن يبطل الا بالموت كشرط لازم، وأنه مستحيل أن يتحمل الكلمة الموت لأنه غير مائت ولأنه ابن الآب. لهذا أخذ لنفسه جسدًا قابلًا للموت. حتى باتحاده بالكلمة، الذي هو فوق الكل، يكون جديرا أن يموت نيابة عن الكل، وحتى يبقى في عدم فساد بسبب الكلمة الذي أتى ليحل فيه وحتى يتحرر الجميع من الفساد، فيما بعد، بنعمة القيامة من الأموات. وإذ قدم للموت ذلك الجسد الذي أخذه لنفسه كمحرقة وذبيحة خالية من كل شائبة فقد رفع حكم الموت فورا عن جميع من ناب عنهم، إذ قدم عوضا عنهم جسدا مماثلا لأجسادهم. "Wa idz ra’a al-Kalimat anna fasad al-basyariyyah laa yumkin an yabthula illa bi al-maut ka syarthi lazim, wa annahu mustahilun an yatahammala al-Kalimat al-maut liannahu ghairu ma’it wa liannahu Ibn al-Ab. Li hadza akhodza li nafsih jasadan qabilan li al-maut. Hatta bi ittihadihi bi al-Kalimat, alladzi huwa fauqo al-kulli, yakunu jadiran an yamuta niyabatun ‘an al-kull, wa hatta yabqo fi ‘adamin fasadin bi sabab al-Kalimat alladzi ata li yahulla fihi wa hatta yataharraru al-jami’ min al-fasad, fi maa ba’da, bi ni’mat al-qiyamati min al-amwat. Wa idz qaddama li al-maut dzalika al-jasad alladzi akhodzahu li nafsihi kamuhroqatin wa dzabihatin khaliyat min kulli sya’ibah, fa qod rafa’a hukm al-mauti fauron ‘an jami’ min naba ‘anhum, idz qaddama ‘iwadhan ‘anhum jasadan mumatsilan li ajsadihim." Meaning: "When the Word (Al-Kalimat) saw that the corruption of humanity could not be undone except by death (illa bi al-maut) as a necessary condition, and the Word could not bear death because He is immortal (ghayru ma'it), for He is the Son of the Father (Ibn al-Ab). Therefore, He took for Himself a body of mortality (jasadan qabilan li al-maut). Thus, by His union with the human body (incarnation/tajassud), He who is above all things became fit to die for everyone and (at the same time) did not suffer corruption because the Word Himself came within Him until all were delivered from corruption. After that, by the grace of the resurrection of the dead, when He presented His body to death, the body that He took for Himself as a burnt offering and an unblemished sacrifice, He immediately lifted the sentence of death from all people, representing them when He presented a body similar to theirs (jasadan mumatsilan li ajsadihim)." - St. Athanasius (Tajassud al-Kalimat) St. Athanasius explains the purpose of the incarnation of the Word becoming human. Why did the Word have to become incarnate? There is no other way to fulfill the demands of the punishment for sin, which is death. The wages of sin is death, according to the Scriptures (Romans 6:23). Therefore, in His love, God did not want humans to perish forever (John 3:16). That is why He wanted to save humans from eternal death that they could not avoid. In the Torah, God had already given an outline of the conditions and the path to salvation, which is through the ransom sacrifice. The principle of the ransom sacrifice is based on the principle of equivalence. The wage of sin is death, so the ransom for the human's right to life that is lost due to sin is also death. However, as stated in Hebrews 10:1, "In the law there is only a shadow of the salvation to come, and not the essence of salvation itself." It is called a shadow because the sacrifice law in the Torah is a symbol of the true sacrifice. It is not fair to equate humans with the sacrificial animals because God created humans with a different essence and value than animals. Therefore, the Scriptures testify that God created humans in His own image and likeness. Therefore, logically, humans must be replaced by humans. But who is the human who can, deserves and is willing to become the substitute for the punishment of sin against humans, namely death? For all humans have sinned and are subject to death (Romans 3:23). That is why God, through His Word, incarnated/became human. In His divine existence, He cannot die because He is Ever-Living (Al-Hayy). By taking on a mortal body that can experience death (jasad qabilan li al-maut), He can accept the demands of punishment for sin, which is death. But at the same time, in His divine existence as the Creator of all things, He can grant life and freedom from all the bonds of sin and Satan. That is why in the Christian perspective, we need a Savior who is both divine and human. If our Savior is only divine, then the demands of punishment for sin cannot be fulfilled. Conversely, if He is only human, then He does not meet the requirements to fulfill the demands of punishment for sin, and at the same time, He does not have the power to give life and freedom from the bonds of Satan.
You've been doing an amazing job recently, every video is a banger. When I was 9, I independently arrived at the trinitarian analogy of water. It's partialism, but not bad for a child. You're right about the weakness of analogies, but the best analogy I have would be water at its critical point. The nature of "waterness" that is H2O, the three "persons" of each state of matter, all simultaneously coexisting, in one place and time. As far as analogies go, it doesn't get better than this.
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity: "And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19) "And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29) "Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22) "G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19) "If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4) "and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
@@BoldABrash Certainly. I've never seen anyone but a jew censor "God" and "Lord" that way. Old testament Judaism is simply Christianity pre-Christ. The natural progression of their beliefs is Christianity. Modern Judaism is anachronistic. Judaism should've died out after their savior came. The only reason it still exists is because they reject the Son ("Whoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father" 1 John 2:23). Modern Judaism is a post-Christian invention wearing the skin of real Judaism. @Cine Santi I hope you come to accept that the savior has already come, and His name is Jesus. He is the way, truth, and life, and no one comes to the Father except by Him.
@@cinesanti7 You cannot SERIOUSLY say what you just shared from these scriptures is what you ACTUALLY believe those words say or mean…do Jews not read John???????? Jesus looked at YOUR PHARISEEs and said that they will not go where He goes bc they do not believe.
@@jdthnt Jews don't acknowledge the NT haha, they believe he's the false messiah despite the fact that Jesus fulfilled all the prophecies of his first coming.
katarinajavorska, The Bible preaches A TRIUNE GOD, not The Trinity Doctrine which states '"THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"! YOU FAILED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "A TRIUNE GOD" & "THE TRINITY DOCTRINE"! IF GOD IS NOT A TRIUNE GOD, WHY DID JESUS GIVE THE COMMAND TO BAPTISE "In The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit"? God is triune is not the problem - the problem of the Trinity Doctrine is that it states that "THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"? BUT THE BIBLE PREACHES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT! Can you see the contradiction? God is NOT "THREE...persons in ONE" BUT ONE GOD IN THREE FORMS - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT! Why can't God separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God"? JESUS SAID in John 16:27 "I CAME OUT FROM GOD". If there is only ONE God and rightly, than how can Jesus be different Person from God the Father? If Jesus is the Savior and God also claimed He is the ONLY Savior and none else, so did the Bible get confused and anyone speak lie? I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN (Philippians 2:9).
I'm not religious, in that I don't believe in God. However, I've always been interested in religion, and Christianity specifically. Your videos are some of the best explanations that I've seen. Thank you for your work. 😊
I’m like you. Don’t believe because there’s nothing worth believing here. But I’m curious what bizarre things people do believe and why they believe in them
I suggest you read the Bible and let it clear up this debate for you: "Head of woman is man. Head of man is Christ. Head of Christ is God. 1 Cor 11:3 - "After Jesus brings about Kingdom blessings to earth, he will hand over the Kingdom to his God and Father - 1 Cor 15:24 “Jehovah (Yahweh) our God is one Jehovah.”-Deuteronomy 6:4. “You, whose name is Jehovah (Yahweh) , you alone are the Most High over all the earth.”-Psalm 83:18. For I have not spoken of my own initiative, but the Father who sent me has himself given me a commandment about what to say and what to speak.50 And I know that his commandment means everlasting life. So whatever I speak, I speak just as the Father has told me.” John 12:49 “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.”-John 17:3. “God is only one.”-Galatians 3:20. “My Father is greater than I [Jesus].”-John 14:28. * “Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” .”-John 20:17. “To us there is but one God, the Father.”-1 Corinthians 8:6. “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”-1 Peter 1:3. “These things saith the Amen [Jesus], . . . the beginning of the creation of God.”-Revelation 3:14. * "No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him". John 1:18 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Mathew 7:21 "Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One.10 Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ.11 But the greatest one among you must be your minister" Mathew 23.9
If you don't believe in God, then why do you see the need to watch videos that talk about him? That's like someone not believing in "Santa Claus" but watching documentaries about him. Seems like a waste of time to me. Is it that you want to believe in God?
My favorite scripture was always "Hear O Israel! The LORD our God is one LORD in three!" So glad that God revealed Himself fully and that every verse about His personhood always describes Him as 1-in-3. Never just one, and never just 1-in-2, but always 1-in-3.
I’m not religious but decided to watch this to get a better understanding, go to a Catholic school and want to be respectful. I yelled at the top of my lungs ‘WHAT ISNT HERESY THEN???’ genuinely couldn’t think of anything else, this is confusing
If I have to give my two cents: -Modalism: basically God can take three forms, therefore only one form (Son, Holy Spirit, Father) can exist at a time. This is obviously a heresy, since we know when Jesus was baptized His Father spoke while the Holy Spirit descended onto Him. -Partialism: the three persons are only parts of God, and only together They can be God. A heresy since Jesus was God amongst men. -Tritheism: polytheism, each person is an individual god. -Subordinationalism: it's implying that one person of the trinity submits to another. God submitting to God doesn't make much sense. Hope I cleared it up
His answer is literally: You can't understand it, and any attempt to understand it is pointless because God is unknowable. Just repeat that God is the trinity and the trinity is God, point to this long ass creed (nevermind if the orthodox ppl don't like it) and sprinkle a scripted quote in there every now and a again. Apparently god has more in common with freaking cthulu than anything else.
Pope Dionysius “Next, then, I may properly turn to those who divide and cut apart and destroy the most sacred proclamation of the Church of God, making of it [the Trinity], as it were, three powers, distinct substances, and three godheads. . . . [Some heretics] proclaim that there are in some way three gods, when they divide the sacred unity into three substances foreign to each other and completely separate” (Letter to Dionysius of Alexandria 1 [A.D. 262] “Therefore, the divine Trinity must be gathered up and brought together in one, a summit, as it were, I mean the omnipotent God of the universe. . . . It is blasphemy, then, and not a common one but the worst, to say that the Son is in any way a handiwork [creature]. . . . But if the Son came into being [was created], there was a time when these attributes did not exist; and, consequently, there was a time when God was without them, which is utterly absurd” (ibid., 1-2). “Neither, then, may we divide into three godheads the wonderful and divine unity. . . . Rather, we must believe in God, the Father Almighty; and in Christ Jesus, his Son; and in the Holy Spirit; and that the Word is united to the God of the universe. ‘For,’ he says, ‘The Father and I are one,’ and ‘I am in the Father, and the Father in me’” (ibid., 3). St Gregory the Wonderworker “There is one God. . . . There is a perfect Trinity, in glory and eternity and sovereignty, neither divided nor estranged. Wherefore there is nothing either created or in servitude in the Trinity; nor anything superinduced, as if at some former period it was non-existent, and at some later period it was introduced. And thus neither was the Son ever wanting to the Father, nor the Spirit to the Son; but without variation and without change, the same Trinity abides ever” (Declaration of Faith [A.D. 265] St Sechnall of Ireland “Hymns, with Revelation and the Psalms of God [Patrick] sings, and does expound the same for the edifying of God’s people. This law he holds in the Trinity of the sacred Name and teaches one being in three persons” (Hymn in Praise of St. Patrick 22 [A.D. 444] St Patrick of Ireland “I bind to myself today the strong power of an invocation of the Trinity-the faith of the Trinity in unity, the Creator of the universe” (The Breastplate of St. Patrick 1 [A.D. 447] “There is no other God, nor has there been heretofore, nor will there be hereafter, except God the Father unbegotten, without beginning, from whom is all beginning, upholding all things, as we say, and his Son Jesus Christ, whom we likewise to confess to have always been with the Father-before the world’s beginning. . . . Jesus Christ is the Lord and God in whom we believe . . . and who has poured out on us abundantly the Holy Spirit . . . whom we confess and adore as one God in the Trinity of the sacred Name” (Confession of St. Patrick 4 [A.D. 452] St Augustine “All the Catholic interpreters of the divine books of the Old and New Testaments whom I have been able to read, who wrote before me about the Trinity, which is God, intended to teach in accord with the Scriptures that the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit are of one and the same substance constituting a divine unity with an inseparable equality; and therefore there are not three gods but one God, although the Father begot the Son, and therefore he who is the Son is not the Father; and the Holy Spirit is neither the Father nor the Son but only the Spirit of the Father and of the Son, himself, too, coequal to the Father and to the Son and belonging to the unity of the Trinity” (The Trinity1:4:7 [A.D. 408] St Fulgence of Ruspe “See, in short you have it that the Father is one, the Son another, and the Holy Spirit another; in Person, each is other, but in nature they are not other. In this regard he says: ‘The Father and I, we are one’ (John 10:30). He teaches us that one refers to their nature, and we are to their Persons. In like manner it is said: ‘There are three who bear witness in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Spirit; and these three are one’ (1 John 5:7)” (The Trinity 4:1-2 [c. A.D. 515] “But in the one true God and Trinity it is naturally true not only that God is one but also that he is a Trinity, for the reason that the true God himself is a Trinity of Persons and one in nature. Through this natural unity the whole Father is in the Son and in the Holy Spirit, and the whole Holy Spirit, too, is in the Father and in the Son. None of these is outside any of the others; because no one of them precedes any other of them in eternity or exceeds any other in greatness, or is superior to any other in power” (The Rule of Faith 4 [c. A.D. 523)
This video isn't exactly made for people who are completely unfamiliar with, or are new to, Christianity. If you want to begin to understand the Trinity, start first by knowing Jesus.
@@BoogieBrando My guy, there's whole branches of Christianity that don't recognize the trinity as valid, and in zoomer's own video he says you CAN'T "know" the trinity. You just believe in it and swear by the creed. This isn't an ignorance problem, it's an interpretation problem.
happyandblessed5640, The Bible preaches A TRIUNE GOD, not The Trinity Doctrine which states '"THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"! YOU FAILED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "A TRIUNE GOD" & "THE TRINITY DOCTRINE"! IF GOD IS NOT A TRIUNE GOD, WHY DID JESUS GIVE THE COMMAND TO BAPTISE "In The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit"? God is triune is not the problem - the problem of the Trinity Doctrine is that it states that "THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"? BUT THE BIBLE PREACHES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT! Can you see the contradiction? God is NOT "THREE...persons in ONE" BUT ONE GOD IN THREE FORMS - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT! Why can't God separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God"? JESUS SAID in John 16:27 "I CAME OUT FROM GOD". If there is only ONE God and rightly, than how can Jesus be different Person from God the Father? If Jesus is the Savior and God also claimed He is the ONLY Savior and none else, so did the Bible get confused and anyone speak lie? I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN (Philippians 2:9).
@@alphonsedenny4962 Writing capital letters means you are shouting. Why are you shouting? May God bless you sweet brother in Christ and have a blessed day.
A Christians KNOWS whom he worships. Jesus did too (John 4:22). (1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God, the Father, Jesus and his Disciples worship the ONLY TRUE GOD JEHOVAH whom they address as OUR FATHER IN THE HEAVENS. Cf Matthew 6:9.
@@jimjuri6490so all the times in the epistles in the new testament where Jesus is referenced as God is wrong/corrupt? What about thomas in the gospels who worshiped Jesus as God after his ressurection? 1 John? The whole reason for his crusifiction? Its plastered all over the place
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity: "And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19) "And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29) "Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22) "G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19) "If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4) "and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
@@cinesanti7 I read trough these - Neither comes even remotely close to suggesting that God doesn't exist in trinity. Maybe the one about Him not being a son of man, which Christ claims himself to be - but that's his human nature. So if this is your best proof, it ain't convincing.
@@redyau_ Does a Christian need to believe in the Trinity to be saved? And if so, why did our Savior, nor the disciples, ever teach the doctrine of the Trinity? Why would Christians give credence to a council of men coming together to argue who God is (The Council of Nicaea in 325 CE), and thereby seek to define God? Can mankind define God? No, God reveals Himself to mankind. 1 John 5:7-8, The Johannine Comma is an interpolation according to Christian scholars (words added) to the Bible by over-zealous Trinitarians, who wanted some testimony to the Trinity, due to the fact that in the Bible there is none. Matthew 28:19 has come under suspicion, a commandment allegedly given by Christ to the disciples, but the disciples only baptized in the Savior’s name only, as demonstrated in the Book of Acts. The early church historian Eusebius, wrote (published circa 316 CE) in his book, Matthew 28:19, that Christ actually said, "Go and make disciples of all the nations in my name" (Eusebius, The History of the Church, p. 68, PENGU1N CLASSICS, 1965). The Trinity has only really existed since the 4th century. Historian H.G. Wells factually stated, "There is no evidence that the apostles of Jesus ever heard of the Trinity-at any rate from Him" (The Outline of History, Vol. 2, p. 499). Martin Luther is quoted in a sermon saying, "It is indeed true that the name 'Trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man" (The Sermons of Martin Luther, Vol. 3, p. 406, 1988). It is time that the false Trinity Doctrine cease to exist in Christianity! Catholics and Protestants agree that “Whoever will be saved: before all things, it is necessary to keep the Catholic faith… unless he keeps this faith whole, he will perish everlastingly...And the Catholic faith is this: we worship one God in Trinity” (Catholicism, p. 69, 1961). Protestant professor of Theology James White, states, “The Trinity doctrine is misunderstood as well as ignored. It is so misunderstood that a majority of Christians when asked, give incorrect and at times downright heretical definitions of the Trinity” (James White, The Forgotten Trinity, p. 16). According to James White, around 75% of Christians, who think themselves to be Trinitarians, are actually Modalists. Modalism: One God who at different times represents Himself in three different modes of being: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. If belief in the Trinity doctrine is so critical to our salvation, then why did Christ and the disciples not preach the Trinity, which historically developed over 300 years after Christ? To say that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, when Christ never stipulated the doctrine as a prerequisite for salvation is the grossest form of legalism! The man-made Trinity Doctrine is so ingrained into the imagination of Christians for salvation when Christ and the apostles never ever taught it, that many will actually stand condemned for believing in the Trinity according to the Tradition of men, and not of God. Christ warned us about teaching doctrines without one thus says the LORD! And He...said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men…” He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition” (Mark 7:6-9). Christians do not need to believe in the Trinity in order to receive salvation and eternal life in the Kingdom of God! If Christians needed to believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, then it would be taught in the New Testament by our Lord and Savior, and it, the Trinity, was not taught in the New Testament. The Trinity is a useless Doctrine based solely on the misunderstanding of men. It is time for Christians to free themselves from the doctrines of men. The Son of God declared: “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:58). YAH is the meaning of I AM. By this statement, Christ told the Jews that He is their God, the very God of Israel. Not to take this statement as true in that He, the Son of God, is lesser than His Father and God is tantamount to calling Him a liar. Based on everything presented here, the statement by churches that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved is the highest form of legalism. But doesn’t Elohim prove the Trinity, after all it is plural. No. Elohim means Gods. The Trinity is the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God, and yet not three Gods [Elohim], One God [Eloah, or EL]. The true definition of Elohim is the God of gods (Deuteronomy 10:17).
It's only in my adult Christian life that my deeper understanding of the Trinity WAS one of heresies described in this video. Learning more about it helps, but it's gonna be tricky for a human mind like me to fully embrace the infinitely divine. Still, it's always important to understand more the religion you try to follow, I suppose. Also, great point about people and groups trying to reduce the Trinity to an easily understandable idea (that by its nature is heretical). Guess the infinitely hard to understand of the Divine is a feature, not a bug haha
It's very important to understand one's religion and beliefs and to even put it to the test. In the Bible we are commanded to "Keep testing whether you are in the faith; keep proving what you yourselves are". (2 Cor 13:5) And we are commanded to "stop being molded by this system of things, but be transformed by making your mind over, so that you may prove to yourselves the good and acceptable and perfect will of God". (Rom 12:2) Our creator doesn't expect blind faith from us, our faith should be based on evidence, on proofs. (Heb 11:1) We are also warned in the scripture about just accepting doctrines without that proof, it says, "Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired statement, but test the inspired statements to see whether they originate with God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world." (1 John 4:1) How do we test statements? By comparing them to what God's word, the Bible says. If the first thing that comes out of someone's mouth is a lie, can we believe anything else that person says? (He) said that "the Trinity is the belief that makes Christianity Christianity", but (the Bible) says that Christ makes Christianity, Christianity. So much so that God has named the religion after him. Acts 11:26 says "and it was first in Antioch that the disciples were by divine providence called Christians". They were called Christians, not Trinitarians. Jesus Christ is the central figure of Christianity, not the Trinity which is a pagan doctrine that has nothing to do with Christianity or the Bible! The apostle Paul made it abundantly clear who God is when he said, "For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” there is actually to us one God, the Father". He then went on to make a point that has proven true in the case of this TH-camr when he said, "However, not all have this knowledge". (1 Cor 8:5-7a) The truth is, rather than the Trinity being what makes Christianity, Christianity, it is what makes it apostasy and antichrist because it goes against what Christ taught. (1 John 2:18,22; 4:3)
@@michaelprince6798Perhaps it should be explicitly put in the bible if it is intended to be considered important. It is not, so giving it a name itself is an opinion.
It's one thing to not fully understand the Trinity, but it's a whole other thing to outright deny it. Denying it is a salvific issue since you're essentially denying who God is. Not fully comprehending it isn't denying it. It is of course very important to learn it though.
“Guess the infinitely hard to understand of the Divine is a feature…” You're invoking magic to explain what nobody can understand. Magic can turn any bit of nonsense into something rational.
sambutta, The Bible preaches A TRIUNE GOD, not The Trinity Doctrine which states '"THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"! YOU FAILED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "A TRIUNE GOD" & "THE TRINITY DOCTRINE"! IF GOD IS NOT A TRIUNE GOD, WHY DID JESUS GIVE THE COMMAND TO BAPTISE "In The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit"? God is triune is not the problem - the problem of the Trinity Doctrine is that it states that "THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"? BUT THE BIBLE PREACHES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT! Can you see the contradiction? God is NOT "THREE...persons in ONE" BUT ONE GOD IN THREE FORMS - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT! Why can't God separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God"? JESUS SAID in John 16:27 "I CAME OUT FROM GOD". If there is only ONE God and rightly, than how can Jesus be different Person from God the Father? If Jesus is the Savior and God also claimed He is the ONLY Savior and none else, so did the Bible get confused and anyone speak lie? I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN.
If you can walk away with a sound mind after listening to an explanation of the Trinity then you are indeed a gifted human being. Please share your experience with others.
Yeah, it's really a mind-bending false doctrine. In contrast, God's word of truth is clear and understandable. Jesus said, "I do nothing of my own initiative; but just as the Father taught me, I speak these things." So Jesus does whatever he is told to do by his father. Also, note that Jesus is "taught", no one teaches God. Tell me this, what is the name of the Holy Spirit? The Father's name is "Jehovah". (Psm 83:18), The Son's name is "Jesus", but the Holy Spirit has no name. The reason for that is because the Holy Spirit is not a person like Jesus and God are, it's God's active force that he uses to accomplish his purpose. John 3:16 says that God sent his son, and Jesus said that God was going to send his Holy Spirit. "But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you." So, it's obvious that the Father is the one in charge. His will is what is carried out. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him. (John 13:16)
Why was Jesus' teachings so easy for the common people to understand? One main reason is that what he taught was the truth. (Math 22:16) The reason why the Trinity doctrine is so difficult to understand is because it is a lie, a pagan idea adopted after the apostasy occurred. (Acts 20:29,30) Truth can stand on its own, but a lie needs more lies to support it, so it becomes very confusing. The Apostle Paul made it abundantly clear who God is when he said, "For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” there is actually to us one God, the Father". He then went on to make a point that has proven true in the case of this TH-camr when he said, "However, not all have this knowledge". (1 Cor 8:5-7a) Another reason why Jesus' teachings were easily understood by the common people is because to get the understanding we need God's Holy Spirit and to get God's holy spirit we need to be humble, which Jesus and these common people were. (Mark 4:10-12) (Math 11:29) The Roman Catholic church which I used to belong is the one responsible for bringing the false doctrine of the Trinity into the church and this is what their own encyclopedia has to say about it, The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”-(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299. So, they admit that there was no teaching even resembling the Trinity while the Apostles were alive, this teaching came about more than 300 years after the apostasy and the death of the last Apostle, John.
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Translate this: Does a Christian need to believe in the Trinity to be saved? And if so, why did our Savior, nor the disciples, ever teach the doctrine of the Trinity? Why would Christians give credence to a council of men coming together to argue who God is (The Council of Nicaea in 325 CE), and thereby seek to define God? Can mankind define God? No, God reveals Himself to mankind. 1 John 5:7-8, The Johannine Comma is an interpolation according to Christian scholars (words added) to the Bible by over-zealous Trinitarians, who wanted some testimony to the Trinity, due to the fact that in the Bible there is none. Matthew 28:19 has come under suspicion, a commandment allegedly given by Christ to the disciples, but the disciples only baptized in the Savior’s name only, as demonstrated in the Book of Acts. The early church historian Eusebius, wrote (published circa 316 CE) in his book, Matthew 28:19, that Christ actually said, "Go and make disciples of all the nations in my name" (Eusebius, The History of the Church, p. 68, PENGU1N CLASSICS, 1965). The Trinity has only really existed since the 4th century. Historian H.G. Wells factually stated, "There is no evidence that the apostles of Jesus ever heard of the Trinity-at any rate from Him" (The Outline of History, Vol. 2, p. 499). Martin Luther is quoted in a sermon saying, "It is indeed true that the name 'Trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man" (The Sermons of Martin Luther, Vol. 3, p. 406, 1988). It is time that the false Trinity Doctrine cease to exist in Christianity! Catholics and Protestants agree that “Whoever will be saved: before all things, it is necessary to keep the Catholic faith… unless he keeps this faith whole, he will perish everlastingly...And the Catholic faith is this: we worship one God in Trinity” (Catholicism, p. 69, 1961). Protestant professor of Theology James White, states, “The Trinity doctrine is misunderstood as well as ignored. It is so misunderstood that a majority of Christians when asked, give incorrect and at times downright heretical definitions of the Trinity” (James White, The Forgotten Trinity, p. 16). According to James White, around 75% of Christians, who think themselves to be Trinitarians, are actually Modalists. Modalism: One God who at different times represents Himself in three different modes of being: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. If belief in the Trinity doctrine is so critical to our salvation, then why did Christ and the disciples not preach the Trinity, which historically developed over 300 years after Christ? To say that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, when Christ never stipulated the doctrine as a prerequisite for salvation is the grossest form of legalism! The man-made Trinity Doctrine is so ingrained into the imagination of Christians for salvation when Christ and the apostles never ever taught it, that many will actually stand condemned for believing in the Trinity according to the Tradition of men, and not of God. Christ warned us about teaching doctrines without one thus says the LORD! And He...said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men…” He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition” (Mark 7:6-9). Christians do not need to believe in the Trinity in order to receive salvation and eternal life in the Kingdom of God! If Christians needed to believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, then it would be taught in the New Testament by our Lord and Savior, and it, the Trinity, was not taught in the New Testament. The Trinity is a useless Doctrine based solely on the misunderstanding of men. It is time for Christians to free themselves from the doctrines of men. The Son of God declared: “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:58). YAH is the meaning of I AM. By this statement, Christ told the Jews that He is their God, the very God of Israel. Not to take this statement as true in that He, the Son of God, is lesser than His Father and God is tantamount to calling Him a liar. Based on everything presented here, the statement by churches that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved is the highest form of legalism. But doesn’t Elohim prove the Trinity, after all it is plural. No. Elohim means Gods. The Trinity is the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God, and yet not three Gods [Elohim], One God [Eloah, or EL]. The true definition of Elohim is the God of gods (Deuteronomy 10:17).
gothope5915, The Bible preaches A TRIUNE GOD, not The Trinity Doctrine which states '"THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"! YOU FAILED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "A TRIUNE GOD" & "THE TRINITY DOCTRINE"! IF GOD IS NOT A TRIUNE GOD, WHY DID JESUS GIVE THE COMMAND TO BAPTISE "In The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit"? God is triune is not the problem - the problem of the Trinity Doctrine is that it states that "THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"? BUT THE BIBLE PREACHES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT! Can you see the contradiction? God is NOT "THREE...persons in ONE" BUT ONE GOD IN THREE FORMS - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT! Why can't God separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God"? JESUS SAID in John 16:27 "I CAME OUT FROM GOD". If there is only ONE God and rightly, than how can Jesus be different Person from God the Father? If Jesus is the Savior and God also claimed He is the ONLY Savior and none else, so did the Bible get confused and anyone speak lie? I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN (Philippians 2:9).
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity: "And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19) "And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29) "Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22) "G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19) "If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4) "and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
And so it should because it is found nowhere in the Bible. Read these scripturas and tell me why would anyone believe that Jesus is God almighty: 👉And this is eternal life, that they may know YOU, THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. John 17:3 👉yet for us there is ONE GOD, THE FATHER from whom are all things, and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him. 1 Corinthians 8:6 👉 For there is ONE GOD, and ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given at the proper time. 1 Timothy 2:5-6 👉and ye are Christ’s; and Christ is God’s. 1 Corinthians 3:23 ASV 👉Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, TO MY GOD AND YOUR GOD.'" John 20:17 👉 the same came unto him by night, and said to him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that thou doest, except God be with him. John 3:2 ASV 👉 And Jesus advanced in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men. Luke 2:52 ASV 👉 and walk in love, even as Christ also loved you, and gave himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for an odor of a sweet smell. Ephesians 5:2 ASV 👉 For Christ entered not into a holy place made with hands, like in pattern to the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear before the face of God for us: Hebrews 9:24 ASV 👉 “to the only wise God, through Jesus Christ, to whom be the glory for ever. Amen.” Romans 16:27 ASV 👉and has made us to be a kingdom and priests TO SERVE HIS GOD AND FATHER--to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen. Rev 1:6 👉Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--EXCEPT GOD ALONE. Luke 18:19 👉For just as the Father has life in Himself, so He gave to the Son also to have life in Himself; John 5:26 How is God granted to have life in himself? "And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, 👉Jehovah, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob,👈hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations. Exodus 3:15 👉The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Servant Jesus👈; whom ye delivered up, and denied before the face of Pilate, when he had determined to release him. Acts 3:13 ASV 👉 to the only wise God, through Jesus Christ, to whom be the glory for ever. Amen. Romans 16:27 ASV 👉to the only God our Saviour, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion and power, before all time, and now, and for evermore. Amen. Jude 1:25 👉one Lord, one faith, one baptism, ONE GOD AND FATHER of all, who is over all, and through all, and in all. Ephesians 4:5-6 ASV 👉For they themselves report concerning us what manner of entering in we had unto you; and how ye turned unto God from idols, to serve a living and TRUE GOD, and to wait for HIS SON from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, who delivereth us from the wrath to come. 1 Thessalonians 1:9-10 ASV 👉 that THE GOD OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, the Father of glory, may give unto you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him; Ephesians 1:17 ASV Loo 👉 "Let not your heart be troubled: BELIEVE IN GOD, BELIEVE ALSO IN ME. John 14:1 👉He that overcometh, I will make him a pillar in the temple of MY GOD, and he shall go out thence no more: and I will write upon him the name of MY GOD, and the name of the city of MY GOD, the new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from MY GOD, and mine own new name. Revelation 3:12 ASV 👉 And one of the scribes came, and heard them questioning together, and knowing that he had answered them well, asked him, What commandment is the first of all? Jesus answered, The first is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God, the Lord is one: and thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength. The second is this, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. And the scribe said unto him, Of a truth, Teacher, thou hast well said that HE is one; and there is none other but HE: and to love HIM with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbor as himself, is much more than all whole burnt-offerings and sacrifices. Mark 12:28-33 ASV 👉 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God the Almighty, and the Lamb, are the temple thereof. Revelation 21:22 ASV 👉 Ye men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God unto you by mighty works and wonders and signs which God did by him in the midst of you, even as ye yourselves know; him, being delivered up by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye by the hand of lawless men did crucify and slay: whom God raised up, having loosed the pangs of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it. Acts 2:22-24 ASV 👉that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him; having the eyes of your heart enlightened, that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, and what the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to that working of the strength of his might which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and made him to sit at his right hand in the heavenly places, Ephesians 1:17-20 ASV 👉Let all the house of Israel therefore know assuredly, that God hath made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom ye crucified. Acts 2:36 ASV 13 When he had come into the region of Caes·a·reʹa Phi·lipʹpi, Jesus asked his disciples: “Who are men saying the Son of man is?” 14 They said: “Some say John the Baptist, others E·liʹjah, and still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” 15 He said to them: “You, though, who do you say I am?” 16 Simon Peter answered: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 In response Jesus said to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Joʹnah, because flesh and blood did not reveal it to you, but my Father in the heavens did. Notice Jesus says it is the Father in the heavens that reveal the truth to Peter and not himself. Acts 2:36 Therefore, let all the house of Israel know for a certainty that God made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you executed on a stake.” 👉Now when Jesus came into the parts of Cوsarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Who do men say that the Son of man is? And they said, Some say John the Baptist; some, Elijah; and others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets. He saith unto them, But who say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jonah: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father who is in heaven. Matthew 16:13-17 ASV ⁸👉 (Speaking about Yahweh): “And now the LORD says, he who formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob back to him; and that Israel might be gathered to him - for I [the Messiah] am honored in the eyes of the LORD [Yahweh], and my God has become my strength - he says: ‘It is too light a thing that you should be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob and to bring back the preserved of Israel; I will make you as a light for the nations, that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth.'” 👉 Micah 5:4 - And he [the Messiah] shall stand and shepherd his flock in the strength of the LORD, in the majesty of the name of the LORD [Yahweh] his God. And they shall dwell secure, for now he shall be great to the ends of the earth. 👉even Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed him with the Holy Spirit and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. Acts 10:38 ASV 👉 For there are certain men crept in privily, even they who were of old written of beforehand unto this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ. Jude 1:4 ASV 👉to all that are in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is proclaimed throughout the whole world. Romans 1:7-8 ASV 👉 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. How can ye believe, who receive glory one of another, and the glory that cometh from the only God ye seek not? John 5:43-44 ASV 👉 For they themselves report concerning us what manner of entering in we had unto you; and how ye turned unto God from idols, to serve a living and true God, and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, who delivereth us from the wrath to come. 1 Thessalonians 1:9-10 ASV
If I may be permitted to share two observations: First, in Luke 22:42 we see that Jesus of Nazareth had an independent will from his Heavenly Father, which he surrendered to his Father; Second, in both Isaiah 48:16,17 & Zechariah 2:10,11 we ascertain that the Son was "sent" by the LORD God (Yahweh Elohim). When we compare these with John 3:17 we may ascertain that the Father of Jesus is Yahweh.
This is a tough one to wrap your mind around. Analogies may fail to entirely be accurate, but it helps people to grasp the concept. I think my favorite right now relates to gardening. The soil you plant seeds into must have dirt, water and air. Without one of these and your garden will fail. But if they have all these the plants will flourish.
No, that's partialism again. Ponder this question: What is the one thing a God - infinite, omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient in nature - lacks? The answer is something like Boundaries. Boundaries give way, shape and form to the infinite. Like music. There is an infinitude to music, but we impose genres (Boundaries) on it to make it understandable, workable and beautiful. But there are no hard defined boarders between genres, and the nature of music within the genres is still infinite. A genre is still music but uniquely identifiable from the other genres. I think what genre does for music is the same function as what the father, the son and the holy spirit do for god. Without such boundaries there is no trinity. Without boundaries the infinite cannot explore, understand and experience itself.
@acevfx2923 if mine was partialism,then yours is partialism on steroids. Maybe you can explain your position better. We humans can't really put boundaries on God. We will need eternity to even begin to figure Him out. Meanwhile, we do what we can to understand God through the things we know from His creation around us. These are all finite illustrations for the infinite One. Consider the eternal nature of God, for example. I see the endless expanse of the universe as the best illustration for His eternal nature. But even then, we poor mortals can barely wrap our heads around that concept.
@LairdKenneth no you missunderstand, let me try and explain it better. This not my own idea, so I'm probably not doing it justice, but here I go anyway. We did not impose boundaries on god to understand him. God imposses boundaries(the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit) on his own nature to help him understand himself. Your example is partialism because it's three completely separate ingredients if you will. The nature of god is infinite, omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, etc. The self-imposed boundaries would not take away from this but instead help navigate it. Much like numbers, there are an infinite amount of them, but that's not helpful, so to make it workable, one can set up boundaries to create a workable range - say numbers 0 through 1. Although limited, the numbers 0 through 1 still represent an infinite amount of numbers, and it contains 2s, 3s, 4s, 5s, 6s, 7s, 8s, and 9s. Just not 2, because the range of 2 through 3 has been assigned a different boundary. A different genre if you will. Now the ranges are uniquely identifiable, but they are all still the same and fill the same function and are not partial - or separate - from each other The music aspect helps understand why it is helpful to do this. Music is also infinite in nature, and if music doesn't have any structure it cannot be understood, it cannot be beautiful and it can not be lived and experienced. Structure brings harmony. So, genre comes into play. A genre has no hard limits. Genre isn't partialism, because genre can crossover and is vague, and genre still contains the same musical infinity; yet genre is uniquely identifiable and it makes music beautiful. Which is important if we are all wanting to harmonize with it. So what are you left with: the nature of music is still infinite (much like the nature of god is infinite) but super imposed on that we have rock, pop and rap (the father, the son and the holy spirit). Each uniquely identifiable yet still the same and infinite and not separate from each other. Because they can also crossover. Rock-rap. Pop-rock. Pop-rap. And the genre is still fully music. If that still doesn't make any sense, there is a scholars lecture I can look up for you and directly qoute on the most recent understanding of the 11 dimensional structure of the universe and how the the infinite(god, 11D) needs to impose boundaries(humans, 3D) to help navigate and understand itself, because without that dynamic there would be practically no difference between existence and non-existence.
@acevfx2923 Ah yes, academics. Where else would people imagine God needs help in understanding Himself? I confess to not being much of an academic myself, but I have completed a certain level of education and found that while it really does help civilization on multiple levels, I came away with the sense that it is a rather self-serving enterprise. Consider how the Roman Catholic Church deemed itself for many years, the sole interpreter of scripture. People's understanding of God and Christianity fell lower and lower. Fortunately, God sent reformers like Luther, Jerome, and Huss to bring us out of the darkness. Complex explanations of God, the Trinity, and salvation do little to draw people to their Savior. It is often the simple explanations drawn from the created world around them (each radiating with the touch, or might I say, signature, of the Creator) that help souls to connect with God and find Salvation. One can find fault with any given illustration. Yet it was the day to day examples of life that Jesus Himself used to lead people to a closer walk with God. The earth may have different elements, like soil, sea, and sky, but it is their interactions and mixing that support life on our wee planet. That earthen trinity falls short of the Devine Trinity, but does help many to gain a better understanding of our Creator, and through it find a saving relationship with Jesus our Lord.
Why the Bible lacks an explicit verse describing the trinity? I'm not speaking about a particular word 'trinity' but the concept. The identity of God is the most fundamental thing and yet the bible lacks an explicit statement that describes the trinity. This fact alone proves that Trinity is a man-made false doctrine. Infact, the bible explicitly tells us about the identity of one God. "For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) but to us there is but *one God, the Father,* of whom are all things, and we in him; and *one Lord Jesus Christ,* by whom are all things, and we by him" (1 corinthians 8: 5,6)
The Holy Spirit descended on Jesus when he was baptized by John the Baptist and a voice came from Heaven saying "This is my Son in whom I am well pleased". That voice clearly came from the Father. There's also scripture in John (in chapters 14, 15, and 16.) where Jesus talks about ascending to the Father so He can send the Holy Spirit. In Genesis 1:26-28, God said let us make man in our image and likeness. The Hebrew word for God in that verse is Elohim which is the plural of El. This also demonstrates the Trinity without using the word Trinity. Otherwise, who's us in Genesis 1:26-18 when God said let us make man in our image and likeness. Scripture: Genesis 1:26-28, Matthew 3:16-17, John 14:15-18, John 14:25-28, John 15:18-27, John 16:5-16, Matthew 12:31-32, Matthew 28:19, Luke 4:1, Luke 11:9-13, 1 John 5:7
@@healingthroughchrist1988 None of the verses mentioned by you explicitly states the idea that 'One God exists as three distinct persons namely the Father, Son and Spirit'. There is a semi-explicit verse in the King James version. It reads: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." (1 John 5:7) However, this verse had not been present in the original text & was later added into the Bible by trinitarian scribes. In short, there exists zero explicit verse in the entire Bible that states this idea. This fact alone proves that the doctrine is man-made.
@@CellCODE So, how do you explain the other scriptures I gave? They include scripture of Jesus mentioning the Father and the Holy Spirit in the same verse.
@@healingthroughchrist1988 I don't understand your logic. How mentioning Father, Son and Spirit in the same verse anywhere close to an explicit statement of trinity?
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity: "And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19) "And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29) "Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22) "G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19) "If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4) "and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
[3:78] Among them are those who twist their tongues to imitate the scripture, that you may think it is from the scripture, when it is not from the scripture, and they claim that it is from GOD, when it is not from GOD. Thus, they utter lies and attribute them to GOD, knowingly.
My brother in Christ this is fantastic! I have had many Mormon, JW, and even a Black Hebrew Israelite challenge me on the Trinity. My normal answer is Jesus' Baptism and John 1:1 but you have put together a fantastic video. I'm LCMS Lutheran. I would love to see a video that compares the Lutheran and Reformed churches because I see so much common ground. Happy Easter my friend
Easter Blessings from a fellow confessional Lutheran! I would check out Jordan B. Cooper’s “The Great Divide” for an analysis of Reformed vs. Lutheran theology.
Jesus' baptism does not confirm the pagan and unbiblical version of God nor does John 1:1. They do not say God is 3 persons 1 being, no verse in the Bible says that and no reading of it would you conclude that God is 3 persons 1 being. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is God's and Jesus Christ one and only true church here on earth. We know and teach the Bible and gospel better than any other denomination. Join God and Jesus Christ in their Kingdom and join their true church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and learn all that they have to offer. Learn of their glory and mercy, learn of the plan they have of you.
@@dylanwilliams2202 Sorry but LDS is polytheistic, created by a man with hallucinations just like Muhammed. Read the Bible alone, only there lies salvation
millimeter2008, The Bible preaches A TRIUNE GOD, not The Trinity Doctrine which states '"THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"! YOU FAILED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "A TRIUNE GOD" & "THE TRINITY DOCTRINE"! IF GOD IS NOT A TRIUNE GOD, WHY DID JESUS GIVE THE COMMAND TO BAPTISE "In The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit"? God is triune is not the problem - the problem of the Trinity Doctrine is that it states that "THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"? BUT THE BIBLE PREACHES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT! Can you see the contradiction? God is NOT "THREE...persons in ONE" BUT ONE GOD IN THREE FORMS - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT! Why can't God separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God"? JESUS SAID in John 16:27 "I CAME OUT FROM GOD". If there is only ONE God and rightly, than how can Jesus be different Person from God the Father? If Jesus is the Savior and God also claimed He is the ONLY Savior and none else, so did the Bible get confused and anyone speak lie? I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN.
Because it’s a doctrine of man. There was a debate of over the nature of God. It got so intense that there was a declaration that those who didn’t believe in the view that was popular should be killed, but then the popular view changed and those who didn’t believe that view should be killed.
ikr its killing me. how can somone be their own dad. also how tf could god even have a child? did he impregnate mary with his holy sperm? makes more sense to say he created jesus in marys womb the same way he did adam.
Better than 99% of trinity explanations in youtube. Trinity can be hard to understand so it is important to point out what it is but expecially what it isn't.
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity: "And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19) "And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29) "Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22) "G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19) "If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4) "and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
There is a good reason why it is hard to understand. As for what it is, it's a satanic doctrine from Babylon and Egypt that was adopted by the Church after the death of the Apostles, and after the apostasy that both Jesus and the Apostles prophesied would take place. (Math 13:24-30, 36-42) "I know that after my going away oppressive wolves will enter in among you and will not treat the flock with tenderness, and from among you yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves." (Acts 20:29,30) As for what it isn't, it's not a scriptural teaching. God, Jesus, the Apostles, and pre-Christian servants of God all made it clear that God is not a Trinity. (1) Pre-Christians - "May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth". (Psm 83:18) (2) The Apostles - "For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” there is actually to us one God, the Father". (1 Cor 8:5,6a) (3) Jesus - "Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’” (Math 4:10) "Jesus said to her: “go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”. (John 20:17) (4) God himself - "“I am Jehovah. That is my name; I give my glory to no one else, nor my praise to graven images.” (Isiah 42:8 And have you ever noticed that the Father has a name "Jehovah". The Son has a name, "Jesus". But the Holy Spirit has no name? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔Have you ever wondered why? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@michaelprince6798 I do believe you are speaking about things that you don't understand. I try to explain some of your misunderstandings. 1. Indeed Christianity formed in a world with many different religions and such had to use languages that were not meant for it. Biggest effect on the doctrine of the Trinity was Platonism and other Greek philosophies. Trinity is however completely original dogma and this can clearly be seen in any book on the matter. Terms "hypostases" (wrongly translated to persons usually) and Homoousion (again wrongly translated to nature) are from Greek culture. Latin and Greek were the common language so Christianity had to use it to spread the word of God. 2. Fathers name is not Jehovah. As psalm clearly says Jehovah is the name of the God, not one hypostasis of the God. Father's name is simply Father. 3. Jesus is not the Son, He is the incarnation of the Son. Son's name is simply Son. 4. The Holy Spirit has a name like the others it's name simply The Holy Spirit. 5. Jesus orders us and says "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" matthew 28:19. Confirming the names of the trinity and that the trinity is the God. 6. We all are allowed to believe what we want, but we also should strive to not misrepresent others. I hope my comment has inspired to you to do more research on the matter. Good start being this video.
Acts 17:29 “Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.”
As latter day saint, the more i learn about the trinity, the more i believe it was designed to be as confusing as possible so that people won't question it
Except everyone kijda questions it precisely because it's really complex. If people "don't question it," there wouldn't be so much discussion and literature about it.
Everything about God is confusing though. We can't grasp omniscience, omnipresence, omnipotence and moral perfection. Why should we be able to grasp the nature of God's existence?
The Trinity was brought in by you-know-who to: 1. Disfigure the identity of the Only True God Jehovah. 2. To make the sacrifice of Jesus invalid in the minds of such believers. Compare 2 Corinthians 4:4.
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity: "And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19) "And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29) "Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22) "G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19) "If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4) "and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity: "And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19) "And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29) "Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22) "G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19) "If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4) "and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
@@zavery_johnson Or a hand going into two dimensional space. Beings there could see different persons (digits on the hand) but those are all one hand. Just like a two dimensional being could not and cannot truly comprehend what they are seeing or interacting with we too cannot truly comprehend the trinity. Three persons as one being. You’d just have to explain that it is not a one to one analogy, but merely to illustrate the concept of how one thing (God) can be three persons. That the father, son, and spirit are not equivalent to digits and God is not equivalent to a hand. It’s just to show how something by nature of how existence words limits our perspective and understanding of how three can be one. Hopefully that makes sense.
The Holy Spirit proceeds from The Father. And the Father alone. Read the creed before the westerners changed it. The Filioque is also a heresy. The analogy I use (to explain trinity in unity and unity in trinity not to explain their differences) is I take 3 matches, and put them together, each one is perfect light and join to make perfect light. That's the closest I've gotten lol.
@@SeraphimVolker I know right, I just was trying to quote st. John of Damascus to someone. Never in the first 1000 years did we believe this. Sad to see how out religion has been diluted, but the Filioque is still less of an issue compared to some other heresies.
@@henridib7222 The Filioque is just linguistic pedantry. It's a literal non-issue, and both the Catholic and Orthodox churches know that. On the other hand, Orthodoxy is a schismatic sect, and y'all should really merge back with us soon.
TripleCOddyssey, The Bible preaches A TRIUNE GOD, not The Trinity Doctrine which states '"THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"! YOU FAILED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "A TRIUNE GOD" & "THE TRINITY DOCTRINE"! IF GOD IS NOT A TRIUNE GOD, WHY DID JESUS GIVE THE COMMAND TO BAPTISE "In The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit"? God is triune is not the problem - the problem of the Trinity Doctrine is that it states that "THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"? BUT THE BIBLE PREACHES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT! Can you see the contradiction? God is NOT "THREE...persons in ONE" BUT ONE GOD IN THREE FORMS - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT! Why can't God separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God"? JESUS SAID in John 16:27 "I CAME OUT FROM GOD". If there is only ONE God and rightly, than how can Jesus be different Person from God the Father? If Jesus is the Savior and God also claimed He is the ONLY Savior and none else, so did the Bible get confused and anyone speak lie? I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN.
@@alphonsedenny4962 The Bible crystal clearly teaches a Tritheism. God the Father, his Son Jesus Christ, and their messenger the Holy Ghost. 3 distinct beings that are unified as the Godhead in purpose and will, not in substance.
@@TripleCOddyssey , YOU STATED "3 distinct beings that are unified as the Godhead in purpose and will, not in substance" - YOU ARE WRONG. GOD CAN BE SEPARATE BUT NOT DISTINCT! Isaiah understood this and stated in Isaiah 9:6 that JESUS IS THE EVERLASTING FATHER YHWH. It is very important that one should know and believe that JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER (in His Glorified Body). If this is not very important, then WHY DID JESUS SAY IN JOHN 8:24 “FOR IF YE BELIEVE NOT THAT I AM HE, YE SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS”. Who does the “HE” refer to? THE CONTEXT OF THIS SPEECH WAS ABOUT GOD THE FATHER. Read verse 27 "They understood not that HE SPAKE TO THEM OF THE FATHER". John 8:28 “WHEN YE HAVE LIFTED UP the Son of man (when you have unveiled ME), then shall ye know that I AM HE (then you will realize that I AM GOD THE FATHER- YHWH in the flesh form)”. JESUS SAID THAT HE IS THE ALMIGHTY GOD in Revelation 1:8. John 14:9 "he who has seen me has seen the FATHER" - JESUS DID NOT SAY "he who has seen me has seen "His Son"!
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity: "And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19) "And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29) "Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22) "G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19) "If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4) "and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
@@cinesanti7 7Ye offer polluted bread upon mine altar; and ye say, Wherein have we polluted thee? In that ye say, The table of the LORD is contemptible. 8And if ye offer the blind for sacrifice, is it not evil? and if ye offer the lame and sick, is it not evil? offer it now unto thy governor; will he be pleased with thee, or accept thy person? saith the LORD of hosts. 9And now, I pray you, beseech God that he will be gracious unto us: this hath been by your means: will he regard your persons? saith the LORD of hosts. 10Who is there even among you that would shut the doors for nought? neither do ye kindle fire on mine altar for nought. I have no pleasure in you, saith the LORD of hosts, neither will I accept an offering at your hand. 11For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts. 12But ye have profaned it, in that ye say, The table of the LORD is polluted; and the fruit thereof, even his meat, is contemptible. 13Ye said also, Behold, what a weariness is it! and ye have snuffed at it, saith the LORD of hosts; and ye brought that which was torn, and the lame, and the sick; thus ye brought an offering: should I accept this of your hand? saith the LORD. 14But cursed be the deceiver, which hath in his flock a male, and voweth, and sacrificeth unto the Lord a corrupt thing: for I am a great King, saith the LORD of hosts, and my name is dreadful among the heathen.
@@user-in5ru2cd9l No, it isn't Biblical. None of what you said is true. It is unbiblical to say that you receive the gift of the Holy Spirit by just believing. In Acts 8 Philip is preaching and baptizing people in the name of the lord (Acts 8:13), however it wasn't until Peter and John came down that those people started to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands. Acts 8:14-17 "Now when the apostles at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent Peter and John to them. *15 The two went down and prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit 16 (for as yet the Spirit had not come upon any of them; they had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus). 17 Then Peter and John laid their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit."* In Acts 19:1-6 it describes the way things were done. Acts 19:1-6 “While Apollos was in Corinth, Paul passed through the interior regions and came to Ephesus, where he found some disciples. 2 He said to them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you became believers?” They replied, “No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.” 3 Then he said, “Into what, then, were you baptized?” They answered, “Into John’s baptism.” 4 Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is, in Jesus.” 5 On hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 *When Paul had laid his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came upon them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied”* People who unrepentantly sin do not inherit the kingdom of heaven (Matthew 19:17-20, John 5:29, Galatians 5:19-21, Ephesians 5:3-5) and knowing what is right and not doing it is sin (James 4:17). If you are sinning the you are obeying sin and it is your master, not Christ. Romans 6:16 "Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?" The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is God's and Jesus Christ one and only true church here on earth. We know and teach the Bible and gospel better than any other denomination. Join God and Jesus Christ in their Kingdom and join their true church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and learn all that they have to offer. Learn of their glory and mercy, learn of the plan they have of you.
I am a catholic, although we're from different denominations I like your channel, it helps me to understand certain things which are a little confusing 🙃
the thing that is confusing you, is the catholic trinity doctrine, its confusing because its nonsensical, its by definition, nonsense. the christian holy bible, teaches that God is one, the Father. it also teaches that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God. a man who was born of a virgin. the christian faith is not confusing at all. the trinitarian/catholic faith is very confusing, because its nonsense. the holy bible says that God is not the author of confusion, thats why the trinity doctrine is not written in the bible.
@@jesusisthechristthesonofgod do you want to an omnipotent omniscient omnipresent being to make sense? for our humans minds it doesn't, but they're limited
The problem is that we humans need analogy to comprehend things outside our ability to comprehend. Without it, I don’t think Christianity would have spread in the pagan world as quickly as it did. We Christians subsist on faith and are comforted in the belief that the answers to our questions await us when we pass from this life. In the meantime, thanks very much for this explanation of our central tenet.
The "faith" you are describing is blind faith, which is not scriptural faith. Scriptural faith is one based on evidence. (Heb 11:1) In the scriptures God commands us to "Keep testing whether you are in the faith; keep proving what you yourselves are". (2 Cor 13:5) If you had done that you would have known that God is not a Trinity. God, Jesus, the Apostles, and pre-Christian servants of God all made it clear that God is not a Trinity. (1) Pre-Christian servants - "May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth". (Psm 83:18) (2) The Apostles - "For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” there is actually to us one God, the Father". (1 Cor 8:5,6a) (3) Jesus - "Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’” (Math 4:10) "Jesus said to her: “go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”. (John 20:17) (4) God himself - "“I am Jehovah. That is my name; I give my glory to no one else, nor my praise to graven images.” (Isiah 42:8)
Jesus knew that. That's why He always spoke in parables. And He uses parables/comparisons all throughout the Old and New Testament. Having background knowledge helps us to connect to new information. Makes ya wonder why He never thought to compare Himself to anything that even remotely resembles 3-in-1.
Thank you for making this video. After all these decades, I'm still learning new stuff about the Lord which I thought was supposed to be basic. It was arrogant of me to think I could wrap my head around an infinite complex Being that created an infinite and complex universe. Got to think of Plato's "I know, I know nothing". I take an entire useless Philosophy course in the universities and I learned nothing but the worthless communist manifesto. Yet, I take five minutes learning about the Lord and immediately I'm taken out of my bubble and my world view is shattered.
"Philosophy is a walk on a slippery rock". False "Religion (with its Satanic Trinity) is a smile on a dog". Rather than putting blind faith in a Babylonish and Egyptian false doctrine, we should seek the truth from God's word. "All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness". (2 Tim 3:16) God, Jesus, the Apostles, and pre-Christian servants of God all made it clear that God is not a Trinity. (1) Pre-Christians - "May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth". (Psm 83:18) (2) The Apostles - "For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” there is actually to us one God, the Father". (1 Cor 8:5,6a) (3) Jesus - "Jesus said to her: “go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”. (John 20:17) (4) God himself - "“I am Jehovah. That is my name; I give my glory to no one else, nor my praise to graven images.” (Isiah 42:8)
I’m kind of confused about this. I’ve studied out the trinity vs oneness quiet a bit and there are a couple of things that make me question trinity. For instance Luke1:35 says that the Holy Ghost overshadowed Mary not the father. And Isaiah 9:6 days the Sons name shall be called everlasting Father. So now I’m seeing the son is the father the Holy Ghost is the father and the father is the father. What do you think about this?
trinity is a man-made doctrine!! Prophet Jesus never taught his disciples about the Trinity Concept, even the apostles of Jesus did not teach the Trinity concept. The Trinity concept originated in the Catholic Church in the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD(300 years after the death of Jesus) and you can read that from their books the Trinity concept was adapted also by the Protestant Churches. Jesus never ever claimed to be divine as he himself prayed to Father who is the one and only TRUE GOD. Jesus said that the true worshippers would be worshipping the Father...not himself. ( John 4: 23, 24 )
@@14-Peaks In John 12 27 - 30 “Now My soul has become troubled; and what am I to say? ‘Father, save Me from this hour’? But for this purpose I came to this hour. Father, glorify Your name.” Then a voice came out of heaven: “I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.” So the crowd who stood by and heard it were saying that it had thundered; others were saying, “An angel has spoken to Him!” Jesus responded and said, “This voice has not come for My sake, but for yours. Jesus in this moment said that the voice didn't come down for His sake, but for the christian's sake. Now I don't know if this is for all cases, but I find it interesting that a lot of the prayers that Jesus did were written down, as if Jesus wanted those words to be read in the future. And on a side note, what is the name that the Father is glorifying? In another verse Jesus said to them in John 8: 58 “Truly, truly I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.” Which is interesting because when Jesus said that, the Jews tried stoning Jesus. Why would Jesus implicate that he was God? Now, one theory I have is that Jesus didn't want everyone to know he really was God. The purpose for Jesus coming down was to be killed in order to save people from their sins. If everyone knew he was God, he wouldn't have been crucified, and thus, not saving everybody.
They did though we can clearly see it in Paul’s and John’s writings. In Colossians 2:9 Paul clearly states Jesus is God and in John 1 John also clearly says Jesus is God. There is also Peter who when he saw Jesus after He resurrected he said “my Lord and my God”
@@JesusIsOurLord-xk9zz Paul never met Jesus and was not a disciple of JESUS. if John or Paul or Thomas or Peter calls someone divine, does that make anyone divine? if you call someone divine, does it make anyone divine??? what did Jesus himself teach?
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Redeemed zoomer back to explain theology we’ve had for years but in a way that my zoomer brain can actually comprehend while teaching me a bit of history along the way. God bless you sir 😂🙏
Ps happy Easter he has risen!
HE IS RISEN INDEED!
th-cam.com/video/6ouOeUceRh8/w-d-xo.html Sam is a beast at exegeting about the Trinity, but his vids are long
@@Pslamist amen
@@Pslamist Alleluia!
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity:
"And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the Lord spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19)
"And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29)
"Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22)
"G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19)
"If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4)
"and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
POV the unitarians: 😠
Unitarians? Don‘t you mean pagans?
@@zempov how so?
The oneness pentecostal are comming
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@@zempov it's not pagan what
This has got to be one of the best explanations for the Trinity by far!👏
Trinity is cringe only arians will understand
*and Mormons
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@@yourdad2917 Arians in 2023
@@yourdad2917 Aren't Arians extinct? Also Arianism is super heretical.
"If we were making this stuff up it would be a lot easier to understand"
This is my new favorite thing.
I always just put this in a box I call "paradoxes that will make sense when God wants me to understand it..." and move on.
Troublechutor,
The Bible preaches A TRIUNE GOD, not The Trinity Doctrine which states '"THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"! YOU FAILED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "A TRIUNE GOD" & "THE TRINITY DOCTRINE"!
IF GOD IS NOT A TRIUNE GOD, WHY DID JESUS GIVE THE COMMAND TO BAPTISE "In The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit"?
God is triune is not the problem - the problem of the Trinity Doctrine is that it states that "THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"? BUT THE BIBLE PREACHES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT! Can you see the contradiction?
God is NOT "THREE...persons in ONE" BUT ONE GOD IN THREE FORMS - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT! Why can't God separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God"? JESUS SAID in John 16:27 "I CAME OUT FROM GOD".
If there is only ONE God and rightly, than how can Jesus be different Person from God the Father? If Jesus is the Savior and God also claimed He is the ONLY Savior and none else, so did the Bible get confused and anyone speak lie?
I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN (Philippians 2:9).
@@alphonsedenny4962 Like I said, I don't understand paradoxes... until I do.
@@Troublechutor If Pinocchio says, "My nose is growing", is he lying or telling the truth?
@@voltekthecyborg7898What’s 5 divided by 0?
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This and your Every denomination explained in 12 minutes videos are truly clarifying; I approach any video attempting to explain such complex and nuanced subjects with a degree of skepticism and hesitancy, but you've proven you have a gift for explaining confusing matters with the utmost respect, accuracy, and clarity. And in such minimal and abbreviated format nonetheless!
Indeed, factually concise and all-encompassing/ interrelated as relevant. Refreshing and a joy to partake of.
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Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity:
"And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19)
"And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29)
"Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22)
"G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19)
"If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4)
"and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
I think it's too abbreviated. These questions have been debated for thousands of years, brethren! The answers can't be so gosh-darn obvious imho
imagine worshipping a human.. lol
shit wack im turning to islam
I always used partialism heresy to explain the trinity because I didn't know how else to explain it, ofc now that I know it's a heresy, I'll stop using it and try to rap my mind around how the trinity actually works. Good video, and keep up the good work
It seems like a very easy heresy to fall into because God is really complex and us humans like to simplify things into easy-to-understand concepts.
The easiest way, really, is to reiterate the Athanasian Creed. The whole "Father is not Son is not Holy Spirit" triangle thing where they all converge on "is God" is the best visual representation. Though, the clover analogy can be a really good way to lay a foundation, and then explain more in depth how it's not completely accurate. It could be easier for you to explain what the Trinity is not, rather than try to convey what it is.
Trinitarian analogies can be useful if you make the necessary distinctions and negations.
I see no issue with partialism because that is a limited understanding of what God is.
One third of infinity is still infinity.
One third of nothing is still nothing.
God can be divided and God can also (at the same time) NOT be divided because God is all powerful.
Similarly, the “can God create a stone so heavy God cannot move it?” is no puzzle to me; the answer is YES!. God is, was, can be, will be, all things and no things because otherwise God would be limited.
We might misunderstand this, but that’s only because we cannot know God as God is.
Every human being has a body, soul and mind.
i'm an ex-mormon that left for Christianity and this is one of the hardest things to wrap my mind around, partially due to the belief i was tough while growing up, tritheism, and partially due to it being so confusing. this video really helped me understand it better, so thank you!
How many surahs in every fatiha of every wuduh? If u were ex-Muslim u should know.
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@@GuyFromPakistan.1947mormon not muslim but i agree if you deny the divinity of christ you should convert to islam
Greetings, the trinity doctrine is confusing, incoherent and foreign to Scripture.
There is no such thing as trinity or modalism in Scripture AT ALL. The only place where you will find the concept of 3 in 1 is in the occult!
The Bible is about God and humans and not about three gods rolled up into, who knows what.
This trinity foolishness will send MANY to the Lake of fire.
You work for 40yrs to have $1M in your retirement, meanwhile some people are putting just $10K in crypto from just few months ago and now they are multimillionaire
That's great! I'm motivated too! How can we achieve this challenge?
No specific one really, because there are lots of investment plans and strategies littered all over the internet today, for instance, investments like real estates,gold, drop shipping crypto currency and lots more
I've heard alot about crypto currency investments and how effective it can grow your income! Any recommendations on a guide?
Warren T. Sonia is an amazing tutor for crypto. Highly recommended! She’s been my Tutor and Mentor for past solid 8years!
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I am 17 and I'm just bring Christianity into my life so I really appreciate you making these videos because it really helps. Although I'm going to have to watch the video more than once I appreciate that it is here!
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Don’t believe in the trinity is all a lie trust me look in history, it was all created by the Roman catholic wen Constantine emperor of Rome made Christianity the main religion of Rome. If you reed the Bible you will see it’s all fake
The trinity wasn’t part of Christianity it was added. It’s all manifestation of God, the son, the father and the holly spirit it’s all manifestations of god
“Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great: He appeared in the flesh, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory.”
1 Timothy 3:16 NIV. It’s all a manifestation
Heavenly Father says (from 10/10/2007 message to Verne Dagenais in 'God speaks will you listen'): "Many in your world teach and believe all religions lead you to God. Many believe it does not matter how you pray because all religions pray to the same God. This is one of the most hideous lies Satan has deceived mankind into believing. These lies are causing many to spend eternity in Hell. There is only one way to Heaven. Partial truth will not gain you entrance to My Kingdom.
My Son stated; "I am the Way and the Truth and the Life. No man comes to the Father but by Me (John14:6)." My Son is the bridge and the gate into My Kingdom. Without My Son’s Life in your soul, you will suffer eternal death. My Word further states: "He that hates Me hates My Father also (John 15:23)." Further My Word states: "Whosoever denies the Son, the same has not the Father. He that confesses the Son, has the Father also (1 John 2:23)." For My Son also stated: "I and the Father are one (John 10:30) and he that sees Me sees the Father also (John 14:9)." You cannot have a relationship with your Father without My Son. You MUST have My Son’s Divine Life in your soul and be in Sanctifying Grace to enter Heaven. There are no exceptions to this rule. These are the Eternal Laws spoken by the Almighty.
Satan is trying to trap and deceive My children into denying these Truths. All religions teach partial Truth, except the Holy Roman Catholic Church. It is the Only Church which teaches the fullness or completeness of My Revelation to mankind. All other Christian denominations only teach partial truth. This is the design of Satan. Satan knows how mankind enters Heaven. He knows by denying My Son (in the Holy Eucharist) and refusing My Son’s mercy (given through the Sacraments), will send a soul to Hell."
I was not able to put Jesus in the equation spiritually. I was able to connect with God and the Holy Spirit but Jesus was a deeply intangible variable in this equation (mostly because of his human nature). Even though I still need to re-watch your video approximately 100 more times, it did moved something in me spiritually. Thank you very much!
Look into the Targums (Jewish historical text) buddy. John was writing to an audience that understood his literature. According to the Targums, the word of the lord is called God and was the creator of the world. He’s also called the Angel of the covenant and the Shekinah.
The Targums explicitly calls the word of the lord, the son of God. Even Jewish mysticism attributes the Shekinah as the Son of God.
If you read the Bible in its historical context, you would appreciate it better. Look into the early church fathers that died believing in their faith and they are the ones that brought you the Bible you have in your hands today 😊
Have lots to say, but TH-cam isn’t the best communication channel. That said buddy, have a good day and stay blessed
Jesus is the divine Logos that became man. John 1 explains it pretty thoroughly.
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity:
"And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the Lord spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19)
"And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29)
"Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22)
"G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19)
"If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4)
"and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
@@cinesanti7 Even though it has been also difficult for me to fully accept Jesus's Godly nature, the scriptures you referred does not seem to disprove it. What I'm about to write is only the logic of the New Testament (you may or may not accept) not arguments to present you as wrong, just arguments that the New Testament claims Jesus to be the same God as Abraham's, Isaac's and Jacob's.
- Jesus is not a hand made creation of man, in fact he was conceived by God. Therefore he does not seem to be lifeless handmade idol, nor descendant of Adam, inheriting original sin.
- Jesus actively directs everyone to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Therefore he is not a human who deceives other's to follow different gods, in fact, he wants people to follow the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
- The Trinity nature describes how Jesus is not a different God than the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Therefore following Jesus means to follow the very same God (this part is tricky to understand, I admit)
- The New Testament only claims that the Jewish God is not only the God of the Jews, but every gentiles', too. And that accepting this God our heart needs to be altered by seeking God, not only our actions needs to be altered by the Jewish Laws (that originally would have helped to change the hearts but for most people following the Laws become only a lifeless routine rather than an approaching act to God). And for this heart altering process we don't need a phisical temple and appointed priest who are the only ones to contact with God. And this is possible because of the self-sacrifice of God, who is also his own Son. Because only sacrificing God can restore the possibility of direct connection for man with God.
I don't think that these things contradict with the Old Testament. They are just really, really, REALLY strange approach to them that I can completely understand why it is difficult to accept. And I don't blame anyone from Jewish background claiming it to be at least a misinterpretation.
From my side, as a raised Christian, I like the idea (and the experience) that I can go to God directly. That I don't need any mediation, nor ritual. And I can't see any other explanation how it changed over the history other than the story of Jesus. Even if it is also difficult for me to understand.
I'm so glad to hear that, God bless
I have been born again in June 2021, after being absent or even an enemy of God for 30 years. I was baptised catholic as a baby and had to attended mass every sunday, first communion, altar boy, firmation, all of it. It is shocking to me - that I was really believing in God, what is easy, if you are brought up that way, but how defensless and vulnerable I was to the world and it's teachings, because there was no interlectual backup of my believe.
I wouldn't have been able to knit together a coherent explanation of the Gospel at age 18. I never really heard something about the trinity. Never knew the importance of scripture and how everything ties together. It is really irresponsable of such churches. Or maybe even on purpose? I don't know...
It is really hard, to return to faith, after your head has been filled with all the knowledge and explanation of the world, how the world works. But luckily, God can do anything and has supernatural means. And we are created to believe.
I don't think its intentional, it's really dense stuff for children or young adults to understand. Even at age 29/30 myself I can barely begin to comprehend. The problem is young people are being targeted to be led astray, exactly because of what you are saying. I'm not sure what could be done, it's sad really.
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It’s a difficult concept for a young person took me years as a catholic to understand the trinity , infact im still trying to comprehend it, but the name trinity and concept,came from early catholic scholars, it’s in the bible but the church took a while to flesh the idea out as we know,it, it was the feast of the holy trinity the other day you would have experienced that if you were a catholic but understandably might not of understood it. I also came to appreciate my,baptism as a baby and say the baptismal vows for myself, I hope for all,Catholics to appreciate the true meaning of born again. We are born again through baptism which is,where we are born of water,and spirit,ie the grace of god, it’s sad to not understand that the sacrament were gods Grace freely given thanks to our parents who,presented us to lord who graced us on that special day. Regarding ‘born again experiences’.you could try the blessed,sacrament, it can be v moving in the spirit to be face to face with our lord.
I’m glad you were born again but that church is obviously not catholic. Catholics recognize the trinity and are very strict about that fact. If it was a Catholic Church then I’m so sorry you had such a bad experience. It does not represent Catholicism as a whole 🙏
@@insertfunnynamehere8617 Oh, it definitely was. The big ol' roman catholic church, with it's liturgy and songs, you can follow a service anywhere in the world. And of course I HEARAD about these things, but because the emphasis is on rituals, traditions, sacraments and other wrong stuff, God's word is not put forward very much. And I was an A student in both church and school in religion class.
Catholics DON'T KNOW the gospel, and the Bible - otherwise they wouldn't act as the do. The don't know that the Bible is coherent from front to back and the role Jesus has. Not really. It's very mumbly.
I was actually trying to find some videos explaining the Trinity to talk to someone I met who is Oneness, and this video came up. I think this is going to be super helpful! Thank you!!
Praying for your conversation
Roxy Andrade
The trinty is not a doctrine that is inherntly in the Bible rather it comes from a process of elimination and theology
Yeah,it was as clear as mud😂
"The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by the Catholic Church in the second century."
[ The Catholic Encyclopedia, II, page 263 ]
Here the authors which is Catholics acknowledged that the baptismal formula was changed by their church.
What else need to be said?
@@efootballmania What needs to be said is the fact that I just read that page in response to your comment, and nowhere on there does it say what you “quoted”. Please check your sources.
I feel like I should add that I’m not even Catholic.
I just found you randomly in my feed and now I can't stop watching your videos
This channel is amazing! You really helped me get a clear understanding of theological concepts, with short, funny, visual, and informative videos. I showed my family your videos and they loved them.
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity:
"And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the Lord spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19)
"And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29)
"Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22)
"G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19)
"If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4)
"and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
Don't fall for these lies, there is no trinity, that is blasphemy, not true Christianity!
@@djparsons7363 What's your problem with the Trinity? My understanding of the essential nature of the concept is that God is both the Greatest (the Father) and the Smallest (the Spirit), and also with us humans in between those two extremes (the Son). God fills the whole universe! And even we humans have a place in Heaven :-)
@@ChristianCatboy The problem is, it is a lie that blasphemes God and Christ! The trinity is not Christian, the origin of the trinity doctrine is in pagan false religions! The Bible is clear, God HATES a lie, so why would anyone want to make a lie part of their worship? Your worship is worthless to God, He is not part of a trinity!
The ONLY humans who have a place in Heaven are the 144,000, no others will ever be in Heaven. Your religion has been teaching lies for centuries, it's time for people to wake up and learn the truth!
@@djparsons7363 lmao, then what is true Christianity?
Glad I watched this, I was thinking of the trinity in modalism terms, but never considered how each person of the trinity interacted with one another. After I heard the description, I started thinking this, then busted out laughing when the three phases of water analogy came up because that's exactly how I was thinking about it.
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@@NazriB Truth for the first time! Secondary Plates - Increase Dispose Landfill
I am not an atheist, I am a Muslim (my honest try to think:) the 3 in 1 god is not logical the God is almighty is logical the God is all know is logical the God is the creator of every thing is logical ... and People are trying to convince themselves of this idea, And make the topic as logical as possible Let us acknowledge that these are three completely different entity that cannot be put into one thing (human, angel, and a GOD). No matter how hard you try to think or make your way of thinking logical, it will never become that way... *THE end of my argument * As a sincere Muslim , I invite you to try reading the Qur’an not just as an experience but a step to know how muslim think and to following the truth (how can you know the truth while you're not searching and
@@أسامهالعريفي-ف9ه you make a good point, that is: no matter how hard we try, we can never fully understand the mystery of the Trinity. God is beyond us, so we can't expect to understand Him in human terms.
In legend, St. Augustine was walking down the beach trying to understand the Trinity when he encountered a child on the beach who was taking water from the ocean and pouring it into a hole he had made in the sand. Augustine asked what he was doing and the child replied, "I'm going to put the whole ocean into this hole." Augustine scoffed and said, "Silly child, this is simply not possible." The child stood up, faced Augustine and said, "and you'll never be able to fit the Trinity into your tiny head." Then the child floated into heaven. Maybe we, as Christians, should take this same humility and just accept the Trinity in faith. Sometimes, the constant search for truth draws us too much into ourselves, instead of into faith with God. This was a great realization of St. Augustine from his book Confessions, that in his quest for truth he often forgot to just simply have faith.
I appreciate your invitation to read the Qur'an. I've actually considered reading it and thought about experiencing Islam to better understand it. I admired many Muslims who show great love and care for strangers and the poor. However, I have heard in Islam that Jesus will return to judge. If only God can judge, why is Jesus the one judging? He must be God according to logic.
@@أسامهالعريفي-ف9هYes, God is logical at the same time is a being that is so much complex that we cannot even comprehend the very things his Will.
And no, a book about a Prophet that we must follow that works for Allah(god) a warlord, slaverer and deceitful that very contradicts a God's prophet that kepts Its sins, other than Jesus? Also, the very irony that Quaran says that the Torah and the Gospel is the word of God, but Quran says that they're both Corrupted, buh again it is stated that the Word of God cannot be Corrupted...now that is complex and I really cannot comprehend your teachings there buddy.
Thank you for boiling this down easy. So that even this old lady can tell others. Shalom
dwolf2369,
The Bible preaches A TRIUNE GOD, not The Trinity Doctrine which states '"THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"! YOU FAILED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "A TRIUNE GOD" & "THE TRINITY DOCTRINE"!
IF GOD IS NOT A TRIUNE GOD, WHY DID JESUS GIVE THE COMMAND TO BAPTISE "In The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit"?
God is triune is not the problem - the problem of the Trinity Doctrine is that it states that "THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"? BUT THE BIBLE PREACHES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT! Can you see the contradiction?
God is NOT "THREE...persons in ONE" BUT ONE GOD IN THREE FORMS - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT! Why can't God separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God"? JESUS SAID in John 16:27 "I CAME OUT FROM GOD".
If there is only ONE God and rightly, than how can Jesus be different Person from God the Father? If Jesus is the Savior and God also claimed He is the ONLY Savior and none else, so did the Bible get confused and anyone speak lie?
I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN.
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Orthobros: “Ackchuyuaaly ☝️🤓…”
What do they believe
@@walterusalbus The Holy Spirit only proceeds from the Father according to EOs. The “Filioque” (and the Son) is a fabrication that wasn’t included in the original nicene creed, but was added by the bishop of Rome who was usurping his power over the eastern churches. This, along with other disputes, led to the Great Schism of 1054.
@@Dvstvrm Okay but where is the lie?
@TheEthiopianEunuchorn1 is basically saying the Roman Catholics fabricated (changed) scripture and added the word "Filioque" (and the Son) to make it seem like The Holy Spirit proceeds from The Father AND The Son (Jesus Christ), when in reality, The Holy Spirit proceeds from The Father alone.@@icezebra
"THAT'S MODALISM, PATRICK!"
Another great video, Zoomer!
Does a Christian need to believe in the Trinity to be saved? And if so, why did our Savior, nor the disciples, ever teach the doctrine of the Trinity? Why would Christians give credence to a council of men coming together to argue who God is (The Council of Nicaea in 325 CE), and thereby seek to define God? Can mankind define God? No, God reveals Himself to mankind. 1 John 5:7-8, The Johannine Comma is an interpolation according to Christian scholars (words added) to the Bible by over-zealous Trinitarians, who wanted some testimony to the Trinity, due to the fact that in the Bible there is none. Matthew 28:19 has come under suspicion, a commandment allegedly given by Christ to the disciples, but the disciples only baptized in the Savior’s name only, as demonstrated in the Book of Acts. The early church historian Eusebius, wrote (published circa 316 CE) in his book, Matthew 28:19, that Christ actually said, "Go and make disciples of all the nations in my name" (Eusebius, The History of the Church, p. 68, PENGU1N CLASSICS, 1965). The Trinity has only really existed since the 4th century. Historian H.G. Wells factually stated, "There is no evidence that the apostles of Jesus ever heard of the Trinity-at any rate from Him" (The Outline of History, Vol. 2, p. 499). Martin Luther is quoted in a sermon saying, "It is indeed true that the name 'Trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man" (The Sermons of Martin Luther, Vol. 3, p. 406, 1988). It is time that the false Trinity Doctrine cease to exist in Christianity! Catholics and Protestants agree that “Whoever will be saved: before all things, it is necessary to keep the Catholic faith… unless he keeps this faith whole, he will perish everlastingly...And the Catholic faith is this: we worship one God in Trinity” (Catholicism, p. 69, 1961). Protestant professor of Theology James White, states, “The Trinity doctrine is misunderstood as well as ignored. It is so misunderstood that a majority of Christians when asked, give incorrect and at times downright heretical definitions of the Trinity” (James White, The Forgotten Trinity, p. 16). According to James White, around 75% of Christians, who think themselves to be Trinitarians, are actually Modalists. Modalism: One God who at different times represents Himself in three different modes of being: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. If belief in the Trinity doctrine is so critical to our salvation, then why did Christ and the disciples not preach the Trinity, which historically developed over 300 years after Christ? To say that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, when Christ never stipulated the doctrine as a prerequisite for salvation is the grossest form of legalism! The man-made Trinity Doctrine is so ingrained into the imagination of Christians for salvation when Christ and the apostles never ever taught it, that many will actually stand condemned for believing in the Trinity according to the Tradition of men, and not of God. Christ warned us about teaching doctrines without one thus says the LORD! And He...said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men…” He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition” (Mark 7:6-9). Christians do not need to believe in the Trinity in order to receive salvation and eternal life in the Kingdom of God! If Christians needed to believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, then it would be taught in the New Testament by our Lord and Savior, and it, the Trinity, was not taught in the New Testament. The Trinity is a useless Doctrine based solely on the misunderstanding of men. It is time for Christians to free themselves from the doctrines of men. The Son of God declared: “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:58). YAH is the meaning of I AM. By this statement, Christ told the Jews that He is their God, the very God of Israel. Not to take this statement as true in that He, the Son of God, is lesser than His Father and God is tantamount to calling Him a liar. Based on everything presented here, the statement by churches that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved is the highest form of legalism. But doesn’t Elohim prove the Trinity, after all it is plural. No. Elohim means Gods. The Trinity is the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God, and yet not three Gods [Elohim], One God [Eloah, or EL]. The true definition of Elohim is the God of gods (Deuteronomy 10:17).
@@S.R.M. I'm surprised but also expected that you were not using John 17 in your argument. Because it will be confusing to explain what happened when Jesus prayed in Gethsemane before He was caught with the Oneness philosophy. Like, to whom He was prayed? Is He some demiurge here, by calling out to the Father to glorify Himself with the glory He had with The Father before the world began? Or is He the God himself? If He and The Father are one being in that garden, does that mean He prayed to Himself alone? Or maybe it's the human nature of Jesus that is praying? But why did He ask The Father to glorify Himself if it's human nature that is praying?
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Actually trinitarians believe the father and Jesus are one being
Jesus is the manifestation of God which was in word form at the beginning of creation with the glory of the father
@@yafethtb
Besides there is not one verse that clearly describes the trinity anywhere
It's a doctrine made by a patch work of verses interpretations and reinterpretations
It's not right
In my opinion, CS Lewis explains it very well in Mere Christianity.
Great book!
I used this video to help my sisters… thank you BROTHER FOR YOUR WORK IN THE LORD.. thank you so much 🙌🙌❤️
"The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by the Catholic Church in the second century."
[ The Catholic Encyclopedia, II, page 263 ]
Here the authors which is Catholics acknowledged that the baptismal formula was changed by their church.
What else need to be said?
4:02 "But think about it. If we were making this stuff up, we would make it a lot more easy to understand."
How does this follow? It's totally possible for a claim to be complicated and also wrong. You would also expect something with thousands of years of history to become more complex over time. Is Hindu theology true because it's more complex?
The mental gymnastics of christian theologists lol
This. Anyone who's been in a Fandom of a long running series can tell you that things get complicated with just a few years of writing. Now imagine thousands of years dozens of books and countless war about what is and isn't canon lol.
But if something is spread throughout the entire world, different cultures and peoples will come to different conclusions and understandings. I think the point he is trying to make is that although people may not agree with whatever church they are near teaches, they still keep their faith rather than casting the idea of god out the window because they know that god exists. That does show that people believe that Christianity is the truth, just taught incorrectly. Which definitely should be taken account when debating the legitimacy of Christianity being the truth. Why would they not give up their faith all together?
The most obnoxious attack on the Trinity has to be the '1+1+1=1' equation. I'm tired of seeing it. Happy Easter everyone.
a good counter could perhaps be that infinity+infinity+infinity=infinity
@@basedgod6016 David Wood
It’s literally peak Muslim apologetics
@@basedgod6016 Any Reddit tier Muslim would just say “well infinity + infinity + infinity + infinity + infinity + infinity + infinity = infinity”
FOR REAL it's as if they never looked into it at all 🙉
Romans 10:9-10 “If you declare with your mouth, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.”
True. No need to invent manmade lunatic trinitism like this.
@@pekdelisten to a wonderful song called God, God, God by Carman.
Explains everything.
@@happyandblessed5640 to me Jesus explains everything.:) Piece by piece. Pationally.
bro thats heresy. Because that's partialism. Jesus is FULLY god. The Father is FULLY god. And the holy spirit is FULLY GOD.
@@KingdomofJerusalem123 jesus isnt god. god is god. jesus is jesus. god didnt take a dump, nor did he send commandments only to carry out those very commandments. there is no 'lead by example' with god, he isn't a manager. he is an authority to which we obey unquestioningly.
The color coordination really helped, thanks man
mycatischunki,
The Bible preaches A TRIUNE GOD, not The Trinity Doctrine which states '"THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"! YOU FAILED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "A TRIUNE GOD" & "THE TRINITY DOCTRINE"!
IF GOD IS NOT A TRIUNE GOD, WHY DID JESUS GIVE THE COMMAND TO BAPTISE "In The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit"?
God is triune is not the problem - the problem of the Trinity Doctrine is that it states that "THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"? BUT THE BIBLE PREACHES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT! Can you see the contradiction?
God is NOT "THREE...persons in ONE" BUT ONE GOD IN THREE FORMS - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT! Why can't God separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God"? JESUS SAID in John 16:27 "I CAME OUT FROM GOD".
If there is only ONE God and rightly, than how can Jesus be different Person from God the Father? If Jesus is the Savior and God also claimed He is the ONLY Savior and none else, so did the Bible get confused and anyone speak lie?
I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN.
@@alphonsedenny4962 I’m not sure why you sent this but I wasn’t being sarcastic, I was actually thanking him. I do believe in the Trinity. Thanks though 🙏
@@mycatischunki ,
If you had read my comment carefully, you will realize that I DID NOT SUPPORT THE TRINITY DOCTRINE.
@@mycatischunki it's a bot
@@BloxG0d_Play3r Oh, that explains it. Thanks.
Blessed and dare I say, based, video. Even after all this time for me, it can get confusing to explain the trinity. Thank you for making this in an easy way to share with others. It's quick, concise, and relatively detailed.
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity:
"And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19)
"And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29)
"Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22)
"G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19)
"If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4)
"and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
It's sickening to think people actually believe in the blasphemous trinity doctrine, it is a LIE!
God does not bless idol worship.
The true faith of monotheism can't get any more clear; God is one, he with no partners besides him. But the sad nature of the human being is to fall into idol worship, creating new religions that only please Satan. And so forth making confusion, and repelling people from the light of their Lord.
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I like how it was brought out that all Three share the same will and mind (0:47). This helps to balance the usage of the word "person," which, especially in English, is easily misunderstood to be a being with independent mind and will, which does not apply to each of the Trinity. The word "person" shouldn't be pushed to far. Otherwise it will result in tritheism (even if we don't admit it). While sharing the same will and mind, the Three still have personal inter-relatedness. It's beyond human language for sure. But it's not beyond our experience and enjoyment (2 Cor. 13:14)! Praise the Triune God!
If it's beyond human language then why should I be reading your words?
Because it‘s a conceptualization of what has been revealed of God‘s essence in the Scriptures. As St. Paul says it‘s like looking through a dirty mirror. The light partially shines through but this doesn‘t make the light less true, it just makes it incomplete. It can only be fully perceived and understood in the afterlife.
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity:
"And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19)
"And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29)
"Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22)
"G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19)
"If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4)
"and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
@@HE4DSHOT059 That's a good question! Like Peter recognized, the words that Jesus spoke were the words of life, meaning the words were used to convey and impart life. Although human language cannot fully describe the divine things, it can still convey them to us (as @dvinb pointed out). But it requires us to use the right organ to receive and enjoy what is being conveyed to us. It's not enough to try to know God according to our mentality. We need to turn our hearts to Him and call on the Lord, "O Lord Jesus!" to touch Him in our spirit (John 4:24), not our mind.
@@cinesanti7 Sorry, I am not sure how those passages disprove the Trinity. Could you elaborate and help me understand?
So, that thing about Christian Science not acknowledging the Trinity made me dive a little deeper, and it’s worse than just denying the Trinity. They also deny that Christ’s sacrifice had any significance and say that God isn’t a person at all, that He’s just existence… it is beyond weird.
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity:
"And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19)
"And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29)
"Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22)
"G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19)
"If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4)
"and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
I want to try to help you with some of these questions, I am new to the faith but I have also thought about these things before. I can tell that you're not saying this out of bitterness or anger, it's very respectable that you still keep his commandments despite being somewhat confused.
What you said about our desires being given to us by God, remember that we distort their true use into sin. Without pain, hunger, attraction, we would get hurt more, starve, and die out. Understand that your struggles and sin is not God's ideal, nor was it ordained in you.
At the end you sounded somewhat frustrated with the 'futility' of christian life and virtue. Christianity is not just about "death to self", it is about being born again in Christ. In the moment, and the beginning, it may feel like a terrible battle which will never end. Remember that one part of the Trinity is the Holy Spirit, Jesus calls it our comforter. The Holy Spirit is meant to change our desires so that this fight against our flesh begins to fade away. Look into C.S Lewis for more about this.
Lastly you mentioned suffering. Know that this world we're in is not the ideal, or the design, it is a fallen world because of our own terrible sin. The reason for the Tree in the garden and all other suffering is so that we have free will to love God. We cannot truly love God if we're forced into doing so. There's nothing virtuous about Adam and Eve being trapped in a garden with no choice in anything. The entire story of the Bible and creation is love deafeating suffering. God allows evil in the world, suffering in your life, and Jesus to be tortured, so that love could overcome the evil in the world. It doesn't always look that way I know, but if God truly wanted to avoid all evil he would also have to avoid all love.
You probably still have many questions, so do I, it is just important that you stay faithful and trusting of God (to be honest you seem to have a stronger faith than I do). Just know that this life is not meant to be torturous, and that many of these questions have answers.
God Bless.
Pope Dionysius
“Next, then, I may properly turn to those who divide and cut apart and destroy the most sacred proclamation of the Church of God, making of it [the Trinity], as it were, three powers, distinct substances, and three godheads. . . . [Some heretics] proclaim that there are in some way three gods, when they divide the sacred unity into three substances foreign to each other and completely separate” (Letter to Dionysius of Alexandria 1 [A.D. 262]
“Therefore, the divine Trinity must be gathered up and brought together in one, a summit, as it were, I mean the omnipotent God of the universe. . . . It is blasphemy, then, and not a common one but the worst, to say that the Son is in any way a handiwork [creature]. . . . But if the Son came into being [was created], there was a time when these attributes did not exist; and, consequently, there was a time when God was without them, which is utterly absurd” (ibid., 1-2).
“Neither, then, may we divide into three godheads the wonderful and divine unity. . . . Rather, we must believe in God, the Father Almighty; and in Christ Jesus, his Son; and in the Holy Spirit; and that the Word is united to the God of the universe. ‘For,’ he says, ‘The Father and I are one,’ and ‘I am in the Father, and the Father in me’” (ibid., 3).
St Gregory the Wonderworker
“There is one God. . . . There is a perfect Trinity, in glory and eternity and sovereignty, neither divided nor estranged. Wherefore there is nothing either created or in servitude in the Trinity; nor anything superinduced, as if at some former period it was non-existent, and at some later period it was introduced. And thus neither was the Son ever wanting to the Father, nor the Spirit to the Son; but without variation and without change, the same Trinity abides ever” (Declaration of Faith [A.D. 265]
St Sechnall of Ireland
“Hymns, with Revelation and the Psalms of God [Patrick] sings, and does expound the same for the edifying of God’s people. This law he holds in the Trinity of the sacred Name and teaches one being in three persons” (Hymn in Praise of St. Patrick 22 [A.D. 444]
St Patrick of Ireland
“I bind to myself today the strong power of an invocation of the Trinity-the faith of the Trinity in unity, the Creator of the universe” (The Breastplate of St. Patrick 1 [A.D. 447]
“There is no other God, nor has there been heretofore, nor will there be hereafter, except God the Father unbegotten, without beginning, from whom is all beginning, upholding all things, as we say, and his Son Jesus Christ, whom we likewise to confess to have always been with the Father-before the world’s beginning. . . . Jesus Christ is the Lord and God in whom we believe . . . and who has poured out on us abundantly the Holy Spirit . . . whom we confess and adore as one God in the Trinity of the sacred Name” (Confession of St. Patrick 4 [A.D. 452]
St Augustine
“All the Catholic interpreters of the divine books of the Old and New Testaments whom I have been able to read, who wrote before me about the Trinity, which is God, intended to teach in accord with the Scriptures that the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit are of one and the same substance constituting a divine unity with an inseparable equality; and therefore there are not three gods but one God, although the Father begot the Son, and therefore he who is the Son is not the Father; and the Holy Spirit is neither the Father nor the Son but only the Spirit of the Father and of the Son, himself, too, coequal to the Father and to the Son and belonging to the unity of the Trinity” (The Trinity1:4:7 [A.D. 408]
St Fulgence of Ruspe
“See, in short you have it that the Father is one, the Son another, and the Holy Spirit another; in Person, each is other, but in nature they are not other. In this regard he says: ‘The Father and I, we are one’ (John 10:30). He teaches us that one refers to their nature, and we are to their Persons. In like manner it is said: ‘There are three who bear witness in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Spirit; and these three are one’ (1 John 5:7)” (The Trinity 4:1-2 [c. A.D. 515]
“But in the one true God and Trinity it is naturally true not only that God is one but also that he is a Trinity, for the reason that the true God himself is a Trinity of Persons and one in nature. Through this natural unity the whole Father is in the Son and in the Holy Spirit, and the whole Holy Spirit, too, is in the Father and in the Son. None of these is outside any of the others; because no one of them precedes any other of them in eternity or exceeds any other in greatness, or is superior to any other in power” (The Rule of Faith 4 [c. A.D. 523)
Actually, anyone who believes that Jesus was God has nullified the sacrifice he made in their minds. Because God can NEVER die. Plus NOTHING was paid TO God.
Compare 2 Corinthians 4:4 to figure out who is behind such a teaching.
A minute in and I can tell you that Jesus is NOT all knowing since he doesn’t know when the final hour is and said only the father does. Every time I bring this up Christians say this is because he’s still a man, but how is he God without being all knowing?
Watching more of the video it’s been addressed 3:06 but this doesn’t make any sense… Jesus has 2 modes? Human mode and God mode and he doesn’t have to submit to the father when he’s in God mode? If he’s asked when the final hour is, and can find out if he could turn on his “God mode” why didn’t he just say that instead of saying ONLY the father knows? This means there is information Jesus has no access to at all
Also saying “Jesus worships the father according to his human nature because he’s the perfect human and all humans are supposed to submit to the father” is heresy by Christian terms since you guys worship the father by worshipping Jesus, which isn’t something Jesus did… and if you did worship the father directly (through the teachings of Jesus like Jesus did) you’d then be a Muslim
Jesus was fully God and fully man, and he was the first example of what a Holy Spirit filled individual was like.
He knew everything, but chose not to have access to it so he would be led by the Spirit at all times. He wanted to have a truly human experience here on earth, and all the things he did was because he, in his flesh, followed after the Spirit.
@@ibz 😭Bro, u been livin under a rock? Get out of the Mosque. Claims have been debunked already.
@@heisnahominstead of insulting, why don't you give him the debunk since it's so popular that everyone who doesn't know it is "living under a rock" apparently
Seeing this gives me hope for your generation. Explained well and weeded out to possible heresies to which it may lead. Keep doing what you know is right, brother!
God isn't weak, dependent or ignorant as Jesus was, also God doesn't need to pray to God and beg him for help like Jesus did.
Don't worship a brown middle-eastern man that never asked to be worshipped or EVER said "I am God"
There is not a single verse in the Bible that describes the doctrine of the trinity
The doctor of the trinity is just a patch work of different verses and interpretations when not aligning have to be reinterpreted
@joelmascarenhas8105 what are you saying
@@_.thealtbutton._3483 what you read
@@_.thealtbutton._3483 what you read
I'm still very confused, mans just said everything I believed was a lie. Pulled up a fat scripture and was like "this is the explanation' and then said "ask ur church." But like tbh I can't even complain. Thanks dude.
I think its ment to be beyond our understanding but thats just me
@@Fanciduck
No it makes no sense. Trinity doesn't exist in the first 300years after Christ's death. Neither was the holy spirit worshipped.
They made it up, because God didn't guide them.
@@walkerjobe6964 But yet the Gospels very clearly teach the Trinity. Thomas called Jesus his Lord and his God (John 20:28), John called Jesus the true God and eternal life (1 John 5:20), Paul called Jesus our God and Savior (Titus 2:13), and the Father Himself also called His Son God (Hebrews 1:8).
@@TheDigitalMissionary
Then why did they have to make up trinity. 300 years later, not to forget.
Why don't they just say trinity in the gospel.
Why wasn't holyspirit worshipped in early churches.
Why does Jesus pray and declares obedience to the father.
@@TheDigitalMissionary
You see what I mean?
Yet another amazing video on this channel. Love how you accurately explain the gospel is a clear, concise way
Gifted Christian.
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity:
"And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19)
"And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29)
"Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22)
"G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19)
"If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4)
"and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
FYI - 'gospel' simply means "good news" and Jesus taught his followers to preach "the good news of the kingdom" - Matthew 24:14
That is the true 'gospel' - Jesus never taught a 'Trinity' which is complete nonsense just like the video - total rubbish!
Accurately ??????
No.... that wasn't accurate
@@roystonboodoo7525 .. certainly not a Christian.
Nowhere does the bible support a 'triune' God or 'Trinity' teaching.
The bible defines Christianity - the belief that 'God is 3 persons' was never taught by Jesus or his apostles or the early Christian congregations.
Jesus did warn about apostasy and false teachers - Matthew 24:4 & 5
Genuine Christians are not deceived by rubbish videos such as this.
When discussing the various heresies, what do I keep hearing "yeah, Patrick?"
¨The Trinity is a mystery that cannot be comprehended by human reason but is understood by faith and is best confessed in the words of the Athanasian Creed which states that we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; neither confounding the Persons: nor dividing the Substance. That we are compelled by the Christian faith to confess that each distinct person is God and Lord and that the deity of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit is one equal in glory, coequal in majesty.¨
Probably because half of th church heresy out there is tied to this concept. Makes one wonder if the concept itself is at fault…
1:50 Lutheran Satire fans hear “That’s moooooooodalism, Patrick!”
This raised more questions than it answered...
The Trinity concept originated in the Catholic Church in the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD(300 years after the death of Jesus) and you can read that from their books the Trinity concept was adapted also by the Protestant Churches.
Jesus never ever taught such a thing.
Jesus himself prayed to the Father who is the one and only true GOD ALMIGHTY.
Jesus said that the true worshippers would be worshipping the Father...not himself. ( John 4: 23, 24 )|
Mark 10:18 ““Why do you call Me good?” Jesus replied. “No one is good except God alone.”
That is why the Trinity was brought in. See 2 Corinthians 4:4.
What a delight to hear it put together in logical, plain, complete terms. Whew. Thank you so much.
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity:
"And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19)
"And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29)
"Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22)
"G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19)
"If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4)
"and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
my notes:
• modalism: three forms, one god
• partialism: three parts, one god
• tritheism: three beings who work together, one god
• trinitarian: three persons, one god
• subordinationism: the son submits to the father (which is true but only when he was on earth).
conclusion: they have a ism for everything but all agree there is one god who somehow consists of/as father, son, holy spirit.
luxbookplanners,
The Bible preaches A TRIUNE GOD, not The Trinity Doctrine which states '"THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"! YOU FAILED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "A TRIUNE GOD" & "THE TRINITY DOCTRINE"!
IF GOD IS NOT A TRIUNE GOD, WHY DID JESUS GIVE THE COMMAND TO BAPTISE "In The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit"?
God is triune is not the problem - the problem of the Trinity Doctrine is that it states that "THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"? BUT THE BIBLE PREACHES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT! Can you see the contradiction?
God is NOT "THREE...persons in ONE" BUT ONE GOD IN THREE FORMS - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT! Why can't God separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God"? JESUS SAID in John 16:27 "I CAME OUT FROM GOD".
If there is only ONE God and rightly, than how can Jesus be different Person from God the Father? If Jesus is the Savior and God also claimed He is the ONLY Savior and none else, so did the Bible get confused and anyone speak lie?
I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN.
@@alphonsedenny4962 it was a little hard to follow your comment because of your writing style, but i believe you’re saying your belief is modalism. according to the video modalism is 3 forms, 1 god. then you went on to explain why you believe that.
@@luxbookplanners ,
I am NOT a Modalist. I have stated my believe and invite people to ask me questions on what I had stated. I do NOT think my believe & understanding of the Bible is the same as a modalist. I do not belong to any Christian Denominations.
@@luxbookplanners ,
WATER CAN BECOME ICE OR VAPOUR, BUT IT IS STILL WATER! Why can't God The Father YHWH separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God" TO DO HIS WILL BECAUSE "No one can see God and live" EXO 33:20?? GOD CAN BE SEPARATE BUT NOT DISTINCT! ONE GOD THE FATHER YHWH IN THREE FORMS IS STILL ONE GOD THE FATHER YHWH! JESUS SAID THAT HE IS THE ALMIGHTY GOD in Revelation 1:8! Isaiah said in Isaiah 9:6 that JESUS IS THE ETERNAL FATHER!
JOHN 10:28 "I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one.” BEING HUMAN, Jesus said that His Father is greater than all! - BUT YOU STATED "So it is not Jesus who is greater than all, but his Father" - YOU MUST BE AN IDIOT! DIDN'T JESUS SAY "and no one will snatch them out of my hand" & "and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand" - DOESN'T THIS SHOW US THAT JESUS IS TELLING US THAT HIS HAND IS HIS FATHER'S HAND? JESUS CONFIRMS THIS " I and the Father are one.”! JESUS SAID THAT HE IS THE ALMIGHTY GOD in Revelation 1:8! Isaiah said in Isaiah 9:6 that JESUS IS THE ETERNAL FATHER!
Yes, the Bible does state/preach that Jesus is "the Son of God" - CAN GOD HAVE A "SON"? ANSWER:NO! JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER YHWH who came down to earth AS "The Son of God" - do you see the word "AS" here? The meaning of "Son of God" in the Bible is GOD IN HIS GLORIFIED BODY!
YES, THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD, THE FATHER YHWH. "God" in the Bible is referred to as "Eloha" (singular) sometimes, and as "Elohim" (plural) sometimes BECAUSE "God" IS A PLURALITY OF ONE GOD. THE ONE GOD, THE FATHER YHWH CAN SEPARATE HIMSELF AND TAKE ANY FORM HE WISHES TO DO HIS WILL AND COME TO EARTH. JESUS SAID "I CAME OUT FROM GOD” in John 16:27. When John stated "He WAS God" in John 1:1, the term "God" here refers to God The Father YHWH (John believed that THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD, THE FATHER YHWH). GOD THE FATHER YHWH NEVER HAD A "SON" in the Old Testament time. His "WORD" became His "Son".
Bible states in Genesis 19:24 "Then YHWH made it rain sulfur and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah - it came from YHWH, from the heavens". WHO WAS THE YHWH ON EARTH, AT THE SAME TIME? Remember that no one had ever seen God The Father (scripture states), so who was THIS YHWH ON EARTH whom the people of that time saw and worshiped as God? Answer: He was "The Word Of God". The final form "The Word of God" took was as Jesus so as to become the sacrificial lamb to pay the penalty for the sin committed by Adam & Eve. BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, "THE WORD BECAME FLESH". THE BIBLE CLEARLY SHOWS/STATES THAT JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER (in his Glorified Body, now in Heaven) AND BEING "THE ARM" OF GOD, HE IS THE CREATOR. Genesis 19:24 "Then YHWH rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire FROM YHWH out of heaven" - DOESN'T THIS VERSE STATE/SHOW TWO YHWH'S? GENESIS 18:33 "And YHWH went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham" - DOESN'T THIS VERSE SHOW THAT YHWH WAS ON EARTH?
John 3:13 "And no man hath ascended up to Heaven but He that came down from Heaven, the Son of Man WHO IS IN HEAVEN" (note that some Bibles have removed the words "He who is in Heaven"). Check online - Abarim Publications' free online interlinear (Greek/English) New Testament. NOTE that Jesus was here telling that He is both on earth and Heaven at the same time! That is, He is in Heaven as God The Father YHWH and on earth as Jesus (YHWH in the flesh form). WATER CAN BECOME ICE OR VAPOUR, BUT IT IS STILL WATER!
DURING THE TIME JESUS WAS ON EARTH HE WAS 100% HUMAN, not both human and God as many Christians WRONGLY think/believe. Hebrews 2:7 "Thou madest him a little lower than the angels" & Psalms 8:5 "For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour" ARE PROOF OF THIS. Jesus had made it clear that His miracles were done by God The Father, John 5:30 "I can of mine own self do nothing". If Jesus was God DURING HIS TIME ON EARTH, WHY DID HE PRAY TO GOD THE FATHER ASKING FOR HIS GLORY TO BE RESTORED? This show that He had NO GLORY during His time on earth. Can God suffer pain, can God feel hungry, tired, thirsty? Can God die - BEING HUMAN, Jesus died! BEING HUMAN, Jesus prayed to God The Father YHWH saying “You are the only true God”. BEING HUMAN, Jesus said “the father is greater than I” John 14:28. BEING HUMAN, Jesus said "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the Son, but the Father only" MATTHEW 24:36.
AFTER HE ASCENDED TO HEAVEN , HE RECEIVED BACK HIS GLORY (His Name YHWH and His Title "God" - "Thy Throne O God") - Philippians 2:9. GOD THE FATHER WILL NEVER CALL ANYONE ELSE "GOD” EXCEPT HIMSELF (in the flesh)! THE IMPORTANT FACT IS WHO IS JESUS NOW IN HEAVEN, not what He was during His short time on earth!
It is very important that one should know and believe that JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER (in His Glorified Body). If this is not very important, then WHY DID JESUS SAY IN JOHN 8:24 “FOR IF YE BELIEVE NOT THAT I AM HE, YE SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS”. Who does the “HE” refer to? THE CONTEXT OF THIS SPEECH WAS ABOUT GOD THE FATHER. Read verse 27 "They understood not that HE SPAKE TO THEM OF THE FATHER". John 8:28 “WHEN YE HAVE LIFTED UP the Son of man (when you have unveiled ME), then shall ye know that I AM HE (then you will realize that I AM GOD THE FATHER- YHWH in the flesh form)”. Isaiah understood this and said that Jesus is THE ETERNAL FATHER. JESUS SAID THAT HE IS THE ALMIGHTY GOD in Revelation 1:8. John 14:9 "he who has seen me has seen the FATHER" - JESUS DID NOT SAY "he who has seen me has seen "His Son"!
The Holy Spirit is the spirit of God The Father and Jesus. JOHN14:23 - JESUS SAID "I AND MY FATHER WILL COME AND DWELL IN YOU" - HOW? ANSWER: AS THE HOLY SPIRIT. John 14:16 (KJV) "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you".
I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN.
@@alphonsedenny4962 okay. thanks.
Thank you for your videos. I've been getting back into the faith after struggling for a long time, and your videos along with the weird bible podcast have really given me relatable content to understand and bring me closer to God. I hope you had a good Easter.
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity:
"And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19)
"And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29)
"Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22)
"G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19)
"If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4)
"and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
this is more convoluted than your average Shounen Anime
It’s not. It’s a common theme throughout history. The Hindus did it with puranic Hinduism (the Trimurti of Shiva, Vishnu, and Brahma all being Brahman).
There is Hecate who is the triple goddess in Greek mythology. It’s arguable that even things like the Fates, the Graces, and the Furies are three personifications on divinity. There was a cult that had Apollo, Helios, and Dionysus as three figures sharing one Godhead (one being twilight, day, and the night or underworld sun). Iirc Artemis also has this with Diana and Selene as well. Even Zeus, Hades, and Poseidon can be considered this and there might have been cults that viewed them as three beings sharing one Godhead, but don’t quote me on that (or any of this really lol).
The celts did this nonstop and it seems like half of their deities were triple divinities. Slavs have this a couple of times as well. There is a couple of examples in Norse mythology. It exists in Egyptian mythology. It’s actually so common to link three beings or persons as one god that early psychology really focused on it. What would Jungian psychology be without it lol.
Agreed lol
@@gamingwhilebroken2355 Just because it has something to do with 3 does not mean it is the Trinity 😂😂
Also, the bible says in Genesis 1:26 - And God said: "Let us make man in our image..." He wasn't alone.
Gott has the name Elohim = Family. Christ has build every thing.
That proves nothing. It's common in literature for a being of respectability to be referred to in the plural.
For example, a king would say: "We order you to...", not "I order you to..."
It's the same with God. Since He is the uncaused causer, it's only proper to refer to one being in the plural.
@@balkanmapping9934 that and he could be refering to the angels
Also in prophets text we often see. Angel send by God be referred as God himself.
@@balkanmapping9934 “common literature” prove to me that this “common literature” was around at the time of Moses
This common literature came around in the Victorian era. This “usage of we” was not around before that time
Best Trinity video, thanks
Love your videos man! Keep it up and God bless you!
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity:
"And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19)
"And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29)
"Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22)
"G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19)
"If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4)
"and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
Happy Easter everyone! Christ has risen!
“Ultimately the fact that we know about the Trinity is good news because it shows that God has come to redeem the world”
AMEN to that! Happy Easter!
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity:
"And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19)
"And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29)
"Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22)
"G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19)
"If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4)
"and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
OR......................... some people could have just made up some shit
and just spread the rumour (Even though the trinity is not in the bible)
but... nah your'e right, the more logical conclusion is that god has comes to redeem us
WOW............... LOL
@@martinkuliza okay abdul
Thanks be to God and His Holy Catholic Church for giving us this teaching. 🙏✨
Thanks, 0:35 is a great graphic for my muslim friend to help understand!
Every Christian for the past 2000 years: "if you don't believe like me, you're not a _true_ Christian!"
How convenient, that _you_ just so happened upon the truth! No one ever thinks themselves wrong
No. If you do not follow the Nicene Creed, you arent a Christian. This is why multiple christian denominations exist, but only 3 Abrahamic religions exist.
Great video, great explanation, thank you! You are helping so many people in their faith and I thank God for people like you!
God isn't weak, dependent or ignorant as Jesus was, also God doesn't need to pray to God and beg him for help like Jesus did.
Don't worship a brown middle-eastern man that never asked to be worshipped or EVER said "I am God"
More like helping to mislead many. We are warned in the scripture which says, "Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired statement, but test the inspired statements to see whether they originate with God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world." (1 John 4:1)
How do we test statements? By comparing them to what God's word, the Bible says.
If the first thing that comes out of someone's mouth is a lie, can we believe anything else that person says?
(He) said that "the Trinity is the belief that makes Christianity Christianity", but (the Bible) says that Christ makes Christianity, Christianity. So much so that God has named the religion after him. Acts 11:26 says "and it was first in Antioch that the disciples were by divine providence called Christians". They were called Christians, not Trinitarians. Jesus Christ is the central figure of Christianity, not the Trinity which is a pagan doctrine that has nothing to do with Christianity or the Bible! The apostle Paul made it abundantly clear who God is when he said, "For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” there is actually to us one God, the Father". He then went on to make a point that has proven true in the case of this TH-camr when he said, "However, not all have this knowledge". (1 Cor 8:5-7a) The truth is, rather than the Trinity being what makes Christianity, Christianity, it is what makes it apostasy!
@@michaelprince6798your doctrine of oneness comes 100 yrs ago compared to the trinity, which can track its teachings to even John the Apostle. You mentioned 1 John 4, but maybe you should have read it, as well as the other chapters that explains the distinction between the Father, Son, & Holy Spirit. What you follow is idolatrous, & not from God, so try again
There's not a single verse that describes the trinity
It's just a patch work of interpretations and reinterpretations
This is a wonderful video! I have shared the link on my spiritual Facebook page. Thank you so very much.
user-op9eh5vd5x,
The Bible preaches A TRIUNE GOD, not The Trinity Doctrine which states '"THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"! YOU FAILED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "A TRIUNE GOD" & "THE TRINITY DOCTRINE"!
IF GOD IS NOT A TRIUNE GOD, WHY DID JESUS GIVE THE COMMAND TO BAPTISE "In The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit"?
God is triune is not the problem - the problem of the Trinity Doctrine is that it states that "THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"? BUT THE BIBLE PREACHES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT! Can you see the contradiction?
God is NOT "THREE...persons in ONE" BUT ONE GOD IN THREE FORMS - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT! Why can't God separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God"? JESUS SAID in John 16:27 "I CAME OUT FROM GOD".
If there is only ONE God and rightly, than how can Jesus be different Person from God the Father? If Jesus is the Savior and God also claimed He is the ONLY Savior and none else, so did the Bible get confused and anyone speak lie?
I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN.
@@alphonsedenny4962 Thank you but I found the video sufficient. Have a blessed day.
Can you do a video about different old Bible texts/translations like The Vulgate,Textus Receptus etc
This made my head spin from all the contradictions. What you're describing is your god is three gods, but is one god. While I thank you for clarifying this issue, this did not really help my understanding as I just have more questions and general confusion.
This is one the best and most comprehensive explanations of the Trinity that I have seen, and you did it in under 5 minutes! I have shared this video with many in my mail list that I think would also appreciate it. Thank you.
davidwooten6091,
The Bible preaches A TRIUNE GOD, not The Trinity Doctrine which states '"THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"! YOU FAILED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "A TRIUNE GOD" & "THE TRINITY DOCTRINE"!
IF GOD IS NOT A TRIUNE GOD, WHY DID JESUS GIVE THE COMMAND TO BAPTISE "In The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit"?
God is triune is not the problem - the problem of the Trinity Doctrine is that it states that "THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"? BUT THE BIBLE PREACHES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT! Can you see the contradiction?
God is NOT "THREE...persons in ONE" BUT ONE GOD IN THREE FORMS - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT! Why can't God separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God"? JESUS SAID in John 16:27 "I CAME OUT FROM GOD".
If there is only ONE God and rightly, than how can Jesus be different Person from God the Father? If Jesus is the Savior and God also claimed He is the ONLY Savior and none else, so did the Bible get confused and anyone speak lie?
I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN.
@alphonsedenny4962 Jesus said that He is one with the Father. That sums it up. One God, just as my wife and I are one flesh. How will Christ be subject to the Father in the end? And why is the Father referred to as the God of Jesus multiply times throughout the new Testament?
@alphonsedenny4962 neither you nor the people who believe in the trinity are correct.
@@vancemiller8500what a joke Vance. Co equal if Jesus is both God the Son and the Son of God, then the Father must be God the Father and the Father of God, otherwise they are not co equal.
@@vancemiller8500Vance what a joke? Ask them to explain how OMNISCIENT GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT doesn't know the day or hour only OMNISCIENT GOD THE FATHER knows the day or hour not even OMNISCIENT GOD THE SON knows the day or hour.
Thanks! the contradiction in the Trinity is so clear now!
YES THE TRINITY IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE. MADE UP, NOT IN THE BIBLE, THE APOSTLES NEVER TAUGHT THAT OR THE SINNERS PRAYER ANYWHERE IN THE BIBLE, OH YOU CAN FIND THE SINNERS PRAYER, BUT ONLY FROM THE MOUTHS OF FALSE PROPHETS.
Wonderful explanation! Thank you for your work in explaining and sharing the faith.
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity:
"And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19)
"And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29)
"Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22)
"G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19)
"If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4)
"and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
There's only one analogy for the Trinity which KIND OF works, which is a 4D cube. We cannot comprehend a 4D cube because we live in a 3D world. However, that doesn't mean that a 4D cube is irrational or nonexistent. Mathematical formulas prove that 4D cubes are logical, even though we cannot fully grasp them due to our limited perspective. In the same way, the Trinity cannot be fully grasped due to our limited human perspective, but the Trinity is not irrational or nonexistent. We know that this Being exists thanks to Scripture.
(Also, I am so sick and tired of people saying that every trio of pagan gods was the influence for the Trinity...which is a conceptually different Being. Also, Happy Resurrection Sunday!)
“…but the Trinity is not irrational…” Yeah, nothing makes as much sense as 1+1+1=1.
@@grasonicus - But 1 x 1 x 1 = 1.
Beyond human comprehension doesn't equal irrational, and if you think so, then you believe that we can necessarily understand everything that exists.
@@josephb.4640 You fell for it. Only the stupidest Trinitarians use this one. It means addition and multiplication are interchangeable--4+5+6 (you'd have to use a calculator) may be 15 or 120, who cares? On such a level of intelligence rests the Trinity.
@@grasonicus that's partials
Corinthians 14:33
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Trinity is continuous confusion
@@pekde that's why you can use the present new testament and disprove the claim of Jesus being god. Trinity is not biblical but result of heretic teachings of the church.
PROVE
1) First claim
*Matthew 24:36 & Mark 13:32*
“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.
*1 John 3:20*
"in whatever our heart condemns us; for God is greater than our heart and KNOWS ALL THINGS."
*Proving that Jesus is not all knowing as he isn't knowledgeable regarding the final hour hence not god as god knows all things*
2) Second claim
*John 17:3*
“This is eternal life, that they may know you, THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.”
*Proving that the father is the only true god*
3) Third claim
*John 20:17*
Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to MY GOD and your God. '"
*Proving Jesus himself didn't consider him god, infact worship the one god, my god and your god, god the father, also if Jesus is God how can a God have a God, it's either Trinity is not biblical or is polytheistic.*
Conclusion
Trinity isn't biblical and Bible is not preserved, as you find 51 self contradiction in the Bible, proving that the new testament is not the pure gospel of Christ hence not reliable. Proving that a prophet to restore the message of god was required.
The claim the Bible is corrupted is historical proven correct by academic and Jewish and Muslim scholars
But we muslim believe that the Bible is NOT corrupted by the Christ but by the people to whom Christ preached.
If God is all knowing, he can't make mistakes
If bible is the word of God, it can't have self contradictions
But hence bible has contradicts the doctrine of Trinity we can easily say the Trinity is not biblical and is the heretical teaching of the church.
(Matthew 4:1) Jesus was tempted
(James 1:13) God cannot be tempted
(John 1:29) Jesus was seen
(1 John 4:12) No man has ever seen God
(Acts 2:22) Jesus was and is a man, sent by God
(Numbers 23:19, Hosea 11:9) God is not a man
(Hebrews 5:8-9) Jesus had to grow and learn
(Isaiah 40:28) God doesn't ever need to learn
(1 Corinthians 15: 3-4) Jesus Died
(1 Timothy 1:17) God cannot die
(Hebrews 5:7) Jesus needed salvation
(Luke 1:37) God doesn't need salvation
(John 4:6) Jesus grew weary
(Isaiah 40:28) God cannot grow weary
(Hebrews 5:7) Jesus needed salvation
(Luke 1:37) God doesn't need salvation
(John 4:6) Jesus grew weary
(Isaiah 40:28) God cannot grow weary
(Mark 4:38) Jesus slept
(Psalm 121: 2-4) God doesn't sleep
(John 5:19) Jesus wasn't all powerful
(Isaiah 45: 5-7) God is all powerful
(Mark 13:32) Jesus wasn't all knowing
(Isaiah 46:9) God is all knowing
@@AntiFurryJihad You need to learn about Jesus. Him being both fully man and fully God rejects your points and you read the Bible as if it is the direct word of God like the Quran is "supposedly" written.
WHY? TERRORISM INCREASES IN ISLAM?...SEE THE god of Darkness Teaching...
Muhammad said Allah hates those who don’t accept Islam. (Qur’an 32, 22:38, 30:45).
👉 Jesus said God loves everyone, and he came to lay down his life for the world. (John 3:16; 10:11; 16:27; 1 John 3:16; 4:7-8)
Muhammad said, “I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah” (Muslim 1:33)
👉 Jesus said, “He who lives by the sword will die by the sword.” (Matthew 26:52) and, “But I say to you: Do not resist an evildoer. But if anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn the other also” (Matthew 5:9)
Muhammad stoned women for adultery. (Muslim 4206)
👉 Jesus said, “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” (John 8:7 [for the sake of argument, I know the pericope adulterae is a textual variant, so here’s a good article in favour of its historicity])
Muhammad permitted stealing from unbelievers. (Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764, Qur’an 8:69, 33:27, 48:20).
👉 Jesus said, “You shall not steal.” (Matthew 19:18; Luke 19:8-9)
Muhammad permitted lying. (Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857)
👉 Jesus said, “You shalt not bear false witness.” (Matthew 19:18)
Muhammad Koran Sura 2: 191 Slay unbelievers wherever you find Them.
👉 Jesus GO and Share the Salvation because you are my friends as you obey.
Muhammad beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys. (Sahih Muslim 4390)
👉 Jesus said, “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you” (Matthew 5:44-45)
Muhammad murdered those who insulted him (Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)
👉 Jesus preached forgiveness (Matthew 5:38-39, 18:21-22)
Muhammad said, “if anyone attacks you, retaliate in the same manner.” (Qur’an 2:194)
👉 Jesus said, “If someone strikes you on the right, turn to him the other also.” (Matthew 5:39)
Muhammad Koran SURA 8:12 ..TERRORIZE UNBELIEVERS BEHEAD CUT THE FINGERS ...terrorist loves to obey.from DARK
👉 Jesus said, “Blessed are the peacemaker@@AntiFurryJihad
My best understanding of the Trinity is based on the metaphor of the tetrahedron. It has four sides, representing how the one God reveals himself as God, Father, Son, Spirit. We serve one God. If you hold a tetrahedron in your hand, you hold one object, representing the One God. The distinctiveness of the persons is preserved since the one object has four facets. The distinct facets are also part of the integral whole while yet being separate. If the tetrahedron is made of transparent glass, you can look through one facet and across to see a different facet facing the inside. This explains how Jesus could say to Phillip, if you have seen me (looking through the transparent Jesus facet), you have seen the Father, (the Father facet). A perfect metaphorical illustration of the Trinity can be found in a transparent glass tetrahedron. Easy... God presents himself as each separate facet singly, or as a combination of facets. For example, if you hold the object so you are looking directly down on it, you will see three facets, Father, Son, Spirit. This is how God presents himself at Jesus’ baptism: Jesus in the water, the Father speaking from heaven, and the Holy Spirit descending as a dove, all three present, yet distinct at the same time. Another example is when Jesus was praying the high priestly prayer in the garden. There, the object is turned to show two facets, the Father and the Son. There are fourteen such combinations of facets that reveal God in the scriptures. (P) What about Jehovah of the O.T.? The name Jehovah is so holy that people of New Testament times never used that word. Instead, they used the word, "Lord". These days, Jews will say, "hashem", the "Name", or the "tetragrammaton", or some other substitute word. When a Christian confesses that "Jesus is Lord" at baptism, they are actually saying, "Jesus is Jehovah". Jehovah went through kenosis and came to earth as a helpless baby so he could die on the cross for our salvation.
I didn't know the Athanasian Creed until I saw this video and needed to work with my own way to logically understand the Holy Trinity. After looking into the creed, I am glad the creed affirms what I always believed the Holy Trinity to be.
The basic tl;dr of my perception of God and the Holy Trinity is that God is Holy. Not it the way the God is an individual that is holy, but rather that God = Holy.
There is only one way to reconcile with all the conditions of the Holy Trinity in our modern understanding. That is to view God as an adjective in the same way as hot, quick, wet, or yellow. God being an adjective that relates to divinity in some way we haven't understood yet.
The Sun is hot. Molten lava is hot. The Sun isn't molten lava. Hot isn't the sun nor molten lava. The Sun isn't 42% hot nor 69% hot, it's just hot. The Sun and molten lava aren't two parts of hot, they are both hot in the entire meaning of the word. The Sun didn't hot 1 year ago and then molten lava manifested as hot, they were both always hot. "Molten lava, are you hot? Like the Sun in the sky?" Molten lava: "I AM."
Every condition of the Holy Trinity is easily addressed in this fashion. When you view that God isn't a noun, like how King is a noun, you can truly understand why the Holy Trinity is structured the way it is. This is why I say God = Holy, but even that isn't necessarily true. Holy is defined as sacred for the purpose of God. Holy is defined by God, in any context, but not the other way around. The way I see it, Catholicism believes that God is an adjective that can only describe the Holy Trinity. I believe most would agree, the most questionable thing being the implication that God isn't an entity.
God is described as an entity several times in a similar way to the title: Lord. I wouldn't be surprised if this is a strange quirk to the saying like how Google is clearly a noun, but was made into a verb for searching on said search engine. A religious scripture would be the kind of text to make an adjective become a noun like, "Cold spoke to me." Admittedly this is the one thing I don't have a good answer for. I simply believe this to be the case as all my other thoughts on the matter is baseless speculation.
I really love this theory since it really brings out the magical and mysterious nature of God while still being completely in line with the core tenants of the faith.
Yes. The Athanasian Creed is very intresting. It is said to be composed in the 5th century in southern France, but it didn't show up until 633 at the fourth council of Toledo. How long has Jesus been dead by that time?
If it took that long for the Trinity to be composed (remember, Islam at this point has made it way unto the scen too).
Better to trust in the Bible, than to trust in the 'creed' of men that lived long after Jesus walked the streets of Jerusalem.
Only suggestion is to read the word of God and see for yourself if you can find that 'triune god' in there. Most people wont. Because Trinity is not read in the Bible, it is thaught by men.
Does a Christian need to believe in the Trinity to be saved? And if so, why did our Savior, nor the disciples, ever teach the doctrine of the Trinity? Why would Christians give credence to a council of men coming together to argue who God is (The Council of Nicaea in 325 CE), and thereby seek to define God? Can mankind define God? No, God reveals Himself to mankind. 1 John 5:7-8, The Johannine Comma is an interpolation according to Christian scholars (words added) to the Bible by over-zealous Trinitarians, who wanted some testimony to the Trinity, due to the fact that in the Bible there is none. Matthew 28:19 has come under suspicion, a commandment allegedly given by Christ to the disciples, but the disciples only baptized in the Savior’s name only, as demonstrated in the Book of Acts. The early church historian Eusebius, wrote (published circa 316 CE) in his book, Matthew 28:19, that Christ actually said, "Go and make disciples of all the nations in my name" (Eusebius, The History of the Church, p. 68, PENGU1N CLASSICS, 1965). The Trinity has only really existed since the 4th century. Historian H.G. Wells factually stated, "There is no evidence that the apostles of Jesus ever heard of the Trinity-at any rate from Him" (The Outline of History, Vol. 2, p. 499). Martin Luther is quoted in a sermon saying, "It is indeed true that the name 'Trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man" (The Sermons of Martin Luther, Vol. 3, p. 406, 1988). It is time that the false Trinity Doctrine cease to exist in Christianity! Catholics and Protestants agree that “Whoever will be saved: before all things, it is necessary to keep the Catholic faith… unless he keeps this faith whole, he will perish everlastingly...And the Catholic faith is this: we worship one God in Trinity” (Catholicism, p. 69, 1961). Protestant professor of Theology James White, states, “The Trinity doctrine is misunderstood as well as ignored. It is so misunderstood that a majority of Christians when asked, give incorrect and at times downright heretical definitions of the Trinity” (James White, The Forgotten Trinity, p. 16). According to James White, around 75% of Christians, who think themselves to be Trinitarians, are actually Modalists. Modalism: One God who at different times represents Himself in three different modes of being: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. If belief in the Trinity doctrine is so critical to our salvation, then why did Christ and the disciples not preach the Trinity, which historically developed over 300 years after Christ? To say that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, when Christ never stipulated the doctrine as a prerequisite for salvation is the grossest form of legalism! The man-made Trinity Doctrine is so ingrained into the imagination of Christians for salvation when Christ and the apostles never ever taught it, that many will actually stand condemned for believing in the Trinity according to the Tradition of men, and not of God. Christ warned us about teaching doctrines without one thus says the LORD! And He...said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men…” He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition” (Mark 7:6-9). Christians do not need to believe in the Trinity in order to receive salvation and eternal life in the Kingdom of God! If Christians needed to believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, then it would be taught in the New Testament by our Lord and Savior, and it, the Trinity, was not taught in the New Testament. The Trinity is a useless Doctrine based solely on the misunderstanding of men. It is time for Christians to free themselves from the doctrines of men. The Son of God declared: “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:58). YAH is the meaning of I AM. By this statement, Christ told the Jews that He is their God, the very God of Israel. Not to take this statement as true in that He, the Son of God, is lesser than His Father and God is tantamount to calling Him a liar. Based on everything presented here, the statement by churches that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved is the highest form of legalism. But doesn’t Elohim prove the Trinity, after all it is plural. No. Elohim means Gods. The Trinity is the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God, and yet not three Gods [Elohim], One God [Eloah, or EL]. The true definition of Elohim is the God of gods (Deuteronomy 10:17).
@@luis7961 trinity is in the bible . thats how jesus litterally spoke ,thats how his diciples wrote it down
Where? Can you point to a trinity verse where I can go and read it?@@groundzero5708
@@S.R.M.trinity not in Bible. Read it. Father is greatest. Holy spirit not another person. Read carefully apostoles greetings.
Needed a refresher on the heresies. Thanks, Zoomer! 😊
Here’s one for you: the Docetists. This word comes from the Greek “Dokesis” which means “to appear to be.” They were a heretic group that believed Christ was a being of pure spirit that only appeared to be human. A spirit with no body can’t die or suffer the pain of being crucified so the passion is meaningless.
Why is that a heresy? Jesus is both true man and true God. As such, Jesus is all powerful; therefore, Jesus can be wholly flesh and wholly spirit at the same time.
@Someone else
2 Timothy 2:8
New International Version
8 Remember Jesus Christ, raised from the dead, descended from David. This is my gospel,
How and why does that refute the heresy?
@@someoneelse7351
And where do you get that?
Are you claiming God is limited?
*Why did God manifest Himself in flesh*
وإذ رأى الكلمة أن فساد البشرية لا يمكن أن يبطل الا بالموت كشرط لازم، وأنه مستحيل أن يتحمل الكلمة الموت لأنه غير مائت ولأنه ابن الآب. لهذا أخذ لنفسه جسدًا قابلًا للموت. حتى باتحاده بالكلمة، الذي هو فوق الكل، يكون جديرا أن يموت نيابة عن الكل، وحتى يبقى في عدم فساد بسبب الكلمة الذي أتى ليحل فيه وحتى يتحرر الجميع من الفساد، فيما بعد، بنعمة القيامة من الأموات. وإذ قدم للموت ذلك الجسد الذي أخذه لنفسه كمحرقة وذبيحة خالية من كل شائبة فقد رفع حكم الموت فورا عن جميع من ناب عنهم، إذ قدم عوضا عنهم جسدا مماثلا لأجسادهم.
"Wa idz ra’a al-Kalimat anna fasad al-basyariyyah laa yumkin an yabthula illa bi al-maut ka syarthi lazim, wa annahu mustahilun an yatahammala al-Kalimat al-maut liannahu ghairu ma’it wa liannahu Ibn al-Ab. Li hadza akhodza li nafsih jasadan qabilan li al-maut. Hatta bi ittihadihi bi al-Kalimat, alladzi huwa fauqo al-kulli, yakunu jadiran an yamuta niyabatun ‘an al-kull, wa hatta yabqo fi ‘adamin fasadin bi sabab al-Kalimat alladzi ata li yahulla fihi wa hatta yataharraru al-jami’ min al-fasad, fi maa ba’da, bi ni’mat al-qiyamati min al-amwat. Wa idz qaddama li al-maut dzalika al-jasad alladzi akhodzahu li nafsihi kamuhroqatin wa dzabihatin khaliyat min kulli sya’ibah, fa qod rafa’a hukm al-mauti fauron ‘an jami’ min naba ‘anhum, idz qaddama ‘iwadhan ‘anhum jasadan mumatsilan li ajsadihim."
Meaning:
"When the Word (Al-Kalimat) saw that the corruption of humanity could not be undone except by death (illa bi al-maut) as a necessary condition, and the Word could not bear death because He is immortal (ghayru ma'it), for He is the Son of the Father (Ibn al-Ab). Therefore, He took for Himself a body of mortality (jasadan qabilan li al-maut). Thus, by His union with the human body (incarnation/tajassud), He who is above all things became fit to die for everyone and (at the same time) did not suffer corruption because the Word Himself came within Him until all were delivered from corruption. After that, by the grace of the resurrection of the dead, when He presented His body to death, the body that He took for Himself as a burnt offering and an unblemished sacrifice, He immediately lifted the sentence of death from all people, representing them when He presented a body similar to theirs (jasadan mumatsilan li ajsadihim)."
- St. Athanasius (Tajassud al-Kalimat)
St. Athanasius explains the purpose of the incarnation of the Word becoming human. Why did the Word have to become incarnate? There is no other way to fulfill the demands of the punishment for sin, which is death. The wages of sin is death, according to the Scriptures (Romans 6:23).
Therefore, in His love, God did not want humans to perish forever (John 3:16). That is why He wanted to save humans from eternal death that they could not avoid.
In the Torah, God had already given an outline of the conditions and the path to salvation, which is through the ransom sacrifice. The principle of the ransom sacrifice is based on the principle of equivalence. The wage of sin is death, so the ransom for the human's right to life that is lost due to sin is also death.
However, as stated in Hebrews 10:1, "In the law there is only a shadow of the salvation to come, and not the essence of salvation itself."
It is called a shadow because the sacrifice law in the Torah is a symbol of the true sacrifice. It is not fair to equate humans with the sacrificial animals because God created humans with a different essence and value than animals. Therefore, the Scriptures testify that God created humans in His own image and likeness.
Therefore, logically, humans must be replaced by humans. But who is the human who can, deserves and is willing to become the substitute for the punishment of sin against humans, namely death? For all humans have sinned and are subject to death (Romans 3:23).
That is why God, through His Word, incarnated/became human. In His divine existence, He cannot die because He is Ever-Living (Al-Hayy). By taking on a mortal body that can experience death (jasad qabilan li al-maut), He can accept the demands of punishment for sin, which is death.
But at the same time, in His divine existence as the Creator of all things, He can grant life and freedom from all the bonds of sin and Satan. That is why in the Christian perspective, we need a Savior who is both divine and human.
If our Savior is only divine, then the demands of punishment for sin cannot be fulfilled. Conversely, if He is only human, then He does not meet the requirements to fulfill the demands of punishment for sin, and at the same time, He does not have the power to give life and freedom from the bonds of Satan.
You've been doing an amazing job recently, every video is a banger.
When I was 9, I independently arrived at the trinitarian analogy of water. It's partialism, but not bad for a child. You're right about the weakness of analogies, but the best analogy I have would be water at its critical point. The nature of "waterness" that is H2O, the three "persons" of each state of matter, all simultaneously coexisting, in one place and time. As far as analogies go, it doesn't get better than this.
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity:
"And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19)
"And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29)
"Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22)
"G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19)
"If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4)
"and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
@@cinesanti7 Are you Jewish?
@@BoldABrash Certainly. I've never seen anyone but a jew censor "God" and "Lord" that way.
Old testament Judaism is simply Christianity pre-Christ. The natural progression of their beliefs is Christianity. Modern Judaism is anachronistic. Judaism should've died out after their savior came. The only reason it still exists is because they reject the Son ("Whoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father" 1 John 2:23). Modern Judaism is a post-Christian invention wearing the skin of real Judaism.
@Cine Santi I hope you come to accept that the savior has already come, and His name is Jesus. He is the way, truth, and life, and no one comes to the Father except by Him.
@@cinesanti7 You cannot SERIOUSLY say what you just shared from these scriptures is what you ACTUALLY believe those words say or mean…do Jews not read John???????? Jesus looked at YOUR PHARISEEs and said that they will not go where He goes bc they do not believe.
@@jdthnt Jews don't acknowledge the NT haha, they believe he's the false messiah despite the fact that Jesus fulfilled all the prophecies of his first coming.
The best explanation I have heard so far. Thank you❤
katarinajavorska,
The Bible preaches A TRIUNE GOD, not The Trinity Doctrine which states '"THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"! YOU FAILED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "A TRIUNE GOD" & "THE TRINITY DOCTRINE"!
IF GOD IS NOT A TRIUNE GOD, WHY DID JESUS GIVE THE COMMAND TO BAPTISE "In The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit"?
God is triune is not the problem - the problem of the Trinity Doctrine is that it states that "THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"? BUT THE BIBLE PREACHES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT! Can you see the contradiction?
God is NOT "THREE...persons in ONE" BUT ONE GOD IN THREE FORMS - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT! Why can't God separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God"? JESUS SAID in John 16:27 "I CAME OUT FROM GOD".
If there is only ONE God and rightly, than how can Jesus be different Person from God the Father? If Jesus is the Savior and God also claimed He is the ONLY Savior and none else, so did the Bible get confused and anyone speak lie?
I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN (Philippians 2:9).
I'm not religious, in that I don't believe in God. However, I've always been interested in religion, and Christianity specifically. Your videos are some of the best explanations that I've seen. Thank you for your work. 😊
you could try to read the Bible for more info. I suggest you start with the Gospel of John
The fact that your curious is a good thing God can and will work with that. Keep searching and you will find the truth, God.🙂
I’m like you. Don’t believe because there’s nothing worth believing here. But I’m curious what bizarre things people do believe and why they believe in them
I suggest you read the Bible and let it clear up this debate for you:
"Head of woman is man. Head of man is Christ. Head of Christ is God. 1 Cor 11:3 -
"After Jesus brings about Kingdom blessings to earth, he will hand over the Kingdom to his God and Father - 1 Cor 15:24
“Jehovah (Yahweh) our God is one Jehovah.”-Deuteronomy 6:4.
“You, whose name is Jehovah (Yahweh) , you alone are the Most High over all the earth.”-Psalm 83:18.
For I have not spoken of my own initiative, but the Father who sent me has himself given me a commandment about what to say and what to speak.50 And I know that his commandment means everlasting life. So whatever I speak, I speak just as the Father has told me.” John 12:49
“This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.”-John 17:3.
“God is only one.”-Galatians 3:20.
“My Father is greater than I [Jesus].”-John 14:28. *
“Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” .”-John 20:17.
“To us there is but one God, the Father.”-1 Corinthians 8:6.
“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”-1 Peter 1:3.
“These things saith the Amen [Jesus], . . . the beginning of the creation of God.”-Revelation 3:14. *
"No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him". John 1:18
“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Mathew 7:21
"Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One.10 Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ.11 But the greatest one among you must be your minister" Mathew 23.9
If you don't believe in God, then why do you see the need to watch videos that talk about him? That's like someone not believing in "Santa Claus" but watching documentaries about him. Seems like a waste of time to me. Is it that you want to believe in God?
My favorite scripture was always "Hear O Israel! The LORD our God is one LORD in three!" So glad that God revealed Himself fully and that every verse about His personhood always describes Him as 1-in-3. Never just one, and never just 1-in-2, but always 1-in-3.
it never said LORD in three
@@Ameeeeeeeeen yes, I was being sarcastic. The Bible only ever mentions Him as being one.
i hope this is sarcasm
@@simosandboifan989 yeah I’ve never seen a Bible translation that translated the Deut. verse like that
I’m not religious but decided to watch this to get a better understanding, go to a Catholic school and want to be respectful. I yelled at the top of my lungs ‘WHAT ISNT HERESY THEN???’ genuinely couldn’t think of anything else, this is confusing
If I have to give my two cents:
-Modalism: basically God can take three forms, therefore only one form (Son, Holy Spirit, Father) can exist at a time. This is obviously a heresy, since we know when Jesus was baptized His Father spoke while the Holy Spirit descended onto Him.
-Partialism: the three persons are only parts of God, and only together They can be God. A heresy since Jesus was God amongst men.
-Tritheism: polytheism, each person is an individual god.
-Subordinationalism: it's implying that one person of the trinity submits to another. God submitting to God doesn't make much sense.
Hope I cleared it up
His answer is literally:
You can't understand it, and any attempt to understand it is pointless because God is unknowable. Just repeat that God is the trinity and the trinity is God, point to this long ass creed (nevermind if the orthodox ppl don't like it) and sprinkle a scripted quote in there every now and a again.
Apparently god has more in common with freaking cthulu than anything else.
Pope Dionysius
“Next, then, I may properly turn to those who divide and cut apart and destroy the most sacred proclamation of the Church of God, making of it [the Trinity], as it were, three powers, distinct substances, and three godheads. . . . [Some heretics] proclaim that there are in some way three gods, when they divide the sacred unity into three substances foreign to each other and completely separate” (Letter to Dionysius of Alexandria 1 [A.D. 262]
“Therefore, the divine Trinity must be gathered up and brought together in one, a summit, as it were, I mean the omnipotent God of the universe. . . . It is blasphemy, then, and not a common one but the worst, to say that the Son is in any way a handiwork [creature]. . . . But if the Son came into being [was created], there was a time when these attributes did not exist; and, consequently, there was a time when God was without them, which is utterly absurd” (ibid., 1-2).
“Neither, then, may we divide into three godheads the wonderful and divine unity. . . . Rather, we must believe in God, the Father Almighty; and in Christ Jesus, his Son; and in the Holy Spirit; and that the Word is united to the God of the universe. ‘For,’ he says, ‘The Father and I are one,’ and ‘I am in the Father, and the Father in me’” (ibid., 3).
St Gregory the Wonderworker
“There is one God. . . . There is a perfect Trinity, in glory and eternity and sovereignty, neither divided nor estranged. Wherefore there is nothing either created or in servitude in the Trinity; nor anything superinduced, as if at some former period it was non-existent, and at some later period it was introduced. And thus neither was the Son ever wanting to the Father, nor the Spirit to the Son; but without variation and without change, the same Trinity abides ever” (Declaration of Faith [A.D. 265]
St Sechnall of Ireland
“Hymns, with Revelation and the Psalms of God [Patrick] sings, and does expound the same for the edifying of God’s people. This law he holds in the Trinity of the sacred Name and teaches one being in three persons” (Hymn in Praise of St. Patrick 22 [A.D. 444]
St Patrick of Ireland
“I bind to myself today the strong power of an invocation of the Trinity-the faith of the Trinity in unity, the Creator of the universe” (The Breastplate of St. Patrick 1 [A.D. 447]
“There is no other God, nor has there been heretofore, nor will there be hereafter, except God the Father unbegotten, without beginning, from whom is all beginning, upholding all things, as we say, and his Son Jesus Christ, whom we likewise to confess to have always been with the Father-before the world’s beginning. . . . Jesus Christ is the Lord and God in whom we believe . . . and who has poured out on us abundantly the Holy Spirit . . . whom we confess and adore as one God in the Trinity of the sacred Name” (Confession of St. Patrick 4 [A.D. 452]
St Augustine
“All the Catholic interpreters of the divine books of the Old and New Testaments whom I have been able to read, who wrote before me about the Trinity, which is God, intended to teach in accord with the Scriptures that the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit are of one and the same substance constituting a divine unity with an inseparable equality; and therefore there are not three gods but one God, although the Father begot the Son, and therefore he who is the Son is not the Father; and the Holy Spirit is neither the Father nor the Son but only the Spirit of the Father and of the Son, himself, too, coequal to the Father and to the Son and belonging to the unity of the Trinity” (The Trinity1:4:7 [A.D. 408]
St Fulgence of Ruspe
“See, in short you have it that the Father is one, the Son another, and the Holy Spirit another; in Person, each is other, but in nature they are not other. In this regard he says: ‘The Father and I, we are one’ (John 10:30). He teaches us that one refers to their nature, and we are to their Persons. In like manner it is said: ‘There are three who bear witness in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Spirit; and these three are one’ (1 John 5:7)” (The Trinity 4:1-2 [c. A.D. 515]
“But in the one true God and Trinity it is naturally true not only that God is one but also that he is a Trinity, for the reason that the true God himself is a Trinity of Persons and one in nature. Through this natural unity the whole Father is in the Son and in the Holy Spirit, and the whole Holy Spirit, too, is in the Father and in the Son. None of these is outside any of the others; because no one of them precedes any other of them in eternity or exceeds any other in greatness, or is superior to any other in power” (The Rule of Faith 4 [c. A.D. 523)
This video isn't exactly made for people who are completely unfamiliar with, or are new to, Christianity. If you want to begin to understand the Trinity, start first by knowing Jesus.
@@BoogieBrando My guy, there's whole branches of Christianity that don't recognize the trinity as valid, and in zoomer's own video he says you CAN'T "know" the trinity. You just believe in it and swear by the creed.
This isn't an ignorance problem, it's an interpretation problem.
I just know this.
And its so hard to explain it to someone who doesn't and your video is brilliant because it's the truth. ❤
happyandblessed5640,
The Bible preaches A TRIUNE GOD, not The Trinity Doctrine which states '"THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"! YOU FAILED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "A TRIUNE GOD" & "THE TRINITY DOCTRINE"!
IF GOD IS NOT A TRIUNE GOD, WHY DID JESUS GIVE THE COMMAND TO BAPTISE "In The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit"?
God is triune is not the problem - the problem of the Trinity Doctrine is that it states that "THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"? BUT THE BIBLE PREACHES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT! Can you see the contradiction?
God is NOT "THREE...persons in ONE" BUT ONE GOD IN THREE FORMS - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT! Why can't God separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God"? JESUS SAID in John 16:27 "I CAME OUT FROM GOD".
If there is only ONE God and rightly, than how can Jesus be different Person from God the Father? If Jesus is the Savior and God also claimed He is the ONLY Savior and none else, so did the Bible get confused and anyone speak lie?
I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN (Philippians 2:9).
@@alphonsedenny4962 Writing capital letters means you are shouting.
Why are you shouting?
May God bless you sweet brother in Christ and have a blessed day.
@@happyandblessed5640 ,
Not necessarily, I type in capital letters as to highlight my points.
I'm a christian. I don't understand it fully yet but I believe in it. Hopefully, God is going to help me to understand it in the future.
Trinity is not Christian. No one can understand it. Father is greatest. Jesus is son of God. Not the Father.
Yep! Even Billy Graham in one of his sermons on TH-cam actually admitted it too.
God's nature is beyond human compression simply because he is God, the most complex being ever
A Christians KNOWS whom he worships. Jesus did too (John 4:22).
(1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God, the Father,
Jesus and his Disciples worship the ONLY TRUE GOD JEHOVAH whom they address as OUR FATHER IN THE HEAVENS. Cf Matthew 6:9.
@@jimjuri6490so all the times in the epistles in the new testament where Jesus is referenced as God is wrong/corrupt? What about thomas in the gospels who worshiped Jesus as God after his ressurection? 1 John? The whole reason for his crusifiction? Its plastered all over the place
These videos are endlessly good. Thank you for your service.
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity:
"And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19)
"And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29)
"Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22)
"G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19)
"If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4)
"and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
@@cinesanti7 I read trough these - Neither comes even remotely close to suggesting that God doesn't exist in trinity. Maybe the one about Him not being a son of man, which Christ claims himself to be - but that's his human nature. So if this is your best proof, it ain't convincing.
@@redyau_ Does a Christian need to believe in the Trinity to be saved? And if so, why did our Savior, nor the disciples, ever teach the doctrine of the Trinity? Why would Christians give credence to a council of men coming together to argue who God is (The Council of Nicaea in 325 CE), and thereby seek to define God? Can mankind define God? No, God reveals Himself to mankind. 1 John 5:7-8, The Johannine Comma is an interpolation according to Christian scholars (words added) to the Bible by over-zealous Trinitarians, who wanted some testimony to the Trinity, due to the fact that in the Bible there is none. Matthew 28:19 has come under suspicion, a commandment allegedly given by Christ to the disciples, but the disciples only baptized in the Savior’s name only, as demonstrated in the Book of Acts. The early church historian Eusebius, wrote (published circa 316 CE) in his book, Matthew 28:19, that Christ actually said, "Go and make disciples of all the nations in my name" (Eusebius, The History of the Church, p. 68, PENGU1N CLASSICS, 1965). The Trinity has only really existed since the 4th century. Historian H.G. Wells factually stated, "There is no evidence that the apostles of Jesus ever heard of the Trinity-at any rate from Him" (The Outline of History, Vol. 2, p. 499). Martin Luther is quoted in a sermon saying, "It is indeed true that the name 'Trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man" (The Sermons of Martin Luther, Vol. 3, p. 406, 1988). It is time that the false Trinity Doctrine cease to exist in Christianity! Catholics and Protestants agree that “Whoever will be saved: before all things, it is necessary to keep the Catholic faith… unless he keeps this faith whole, he will perish everlastingly...And the Catholic faith is this: we worship one God in Trinity” (Catholicism, p. 69, 1961). Protestant professor of Theology James White, states, “The Trinity doctrine is misunderstood as well as ignored. It is so misunderstood that a majority of Christians when asked, give incorrect and at times downright heretical definitions of the Trinity” (James White, The Forgotten Trinity, p. 16). According to James White, around 75% of Christians, who think themselves to be Trinitarians, are actually Modalists. Modalism: One God who at different times represents Himself in three different modes of being: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. If belief in the Trinity doctrine is so critical to our salvation, then why did Christ and the disciples not preach the Trinity, which historically developed over 300 years after Christ? To say that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, when Christ never stipulated the doctrine as a prerequisite for salvation is the grossest form of legalism! The man-made Trinity Doctrine is so ingrained into the imagination of Christians for salvation when Christ and the apostles never ever taught it, that many will actually stand condemned for believing in the Trinity according to the Tradition of men, and not of God. Christ warned us about teaching doctrines without one thus says the LORD! And He...said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men…” He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition” (Mark 7:6-9). Christians do not need to believe in the Trinity in order to receive salvation and eternal life in the Kingdom of God! If Christians needed to believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, then it would be taught in the New Testament by our Lord and Savior, and it, the Trinity, was not taught in the New Testament. The Trinity is a useless Doctrine based solely on the misunderstanding of men. It is time for Christians to free themselves from the doctrines of men. The Son of God declared: “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:58). YAH is the meaning of I AM. By this statement, Christ told the Jews that He is their God, the very God of Israel. Not to take this statement as true in that He, the Son of God, is lesser than His Father and God is tantamount to calling Him a liar. Based on everything presented here, the statement by churches that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved is the highest form of legalism. But doesn’t Elohim prove the Trinity, after all it is plural. No. Elohim means Gods. The Trinity is the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God, and yet not three Gods [Elohim], One God [Eloah, or EL]. The true definition of Elohim is the God of gods (Deuteronomy 10:17).
It's only in my adult Christian life that my deeper understanding of the Trinity WAS one of heresies described in this video. Learning more about it helps, but it's gonna be tricky for a human mind like me to fully embrace the infinitely divine. Still, it's always important to understand more the religion you try to follow, I suppose.
Also, great point about people and groups trying to reduce the Trinity to an easily understandable idea (that by its nature is heretical). Guess the infinitely hard to understand of the Divine is a feature, not a bug haha
It's very important to understand one's religion and beliefs and to even put it to the test. In the Bible we are commanded to "Keep testing whether you are in the faith; keep proving what you yourselves are". (2 Cor 13:5) And we are commanded to "stop being molded by this system of things, but be transformed by making your mind over, so that you may prove to yourselves the good and acceptable and perfect will of God". (Rom 12:2) Our creator doesn't expect blind faith from us, our faith should be based on evidence, on proofs. (Heb 11:1)
We are also warned in the scripture about just accepting doctrines without that proof, it says, "Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired statement, but test the inspired statements to see whether they originate with God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world." (1 John 4:1) How do we test statements? By comparing them to what God's word, the Bible says.
If the first thing that comes out of someone's mouth is a lie, can we believe anything else that person says?
(He) said that "the Trinity is the belief that makes Christianity Christianity", but (the Bible) says that Christ makes Christianity, Christianity. So much so that God has named the religion after him. Acts 11:26 says "and it was first in Antioch that the disciples were by divine providence called Christians". They were called Christians, not Trinitarians. Jesus Christ is the central figure of Christianity, not the Trinity which is a pagan doctrine that has nothing to do with Christianity or the Bible! The apostle Paul made it abundantly clear who God is when he said, "For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” there is actually to us one God, the Father". He then went on to make a point that has proven true in the case of this TH-camr when he said, "However, not all have this knowledge". (1 Cor 8:5-7a) The truth is, rather than the Trinity being what makes Christianity, Christianity, it is what makes it apostasy and antichrist because it goes against what Christ taught. (1 John 2:18,22; 4:3)
@@michaelprince6798Perhaps it should be explicitly put in the bible if it is intended to be considered important. It is not, so giving it a name itself is an opinion.
It's one thing to not fully understand the Trinity, but it's a whole other thing to outright deny it. Denying it is a salvific issue since you're essentially denying who God is. Not fully comprehending it isn't denying it. It is of course very important to learn it though.
“Guess the infinitely hard to understand of the Divine is a feature…” You're invoking magic to explain what nobody can understand. Magic can turn any bit of nonsense into something rational.
Great Breakdown on this topic.
sambutta,
The Bible preaches A TRIUNE GOD, not The Trinity Doctrine which states '"THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"! YOU FAILED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "A TRIUNE GOD" & "THE TRINITY DOCTRINE"!
IF GOD IS NOT A TRIUNE GOD, WHY DID JESUS GIVE THE COMMAND TO BAPTISE "In The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit"?
God is triune is not the problem - the problem of the Trinity Doctrine is that it states that "THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"? BUT THE BIBLE PREACHES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT! Can you see the contradiction?
God is NOT "THREE...persons in ONE" BUT ONE GOD IN THREE FORMS - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT! Why can't God separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God"? JESUS SAID in John 16:27 "I CAME OUT FROM GOD".
If there is only ONE God and rightly, than how can Jesus be different Person from God the Father? If Jesus is the Savior and God also claimed He is the ONLY Savior and none else, so did the Bible get confused and anyone speak lie?
I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN.
I am in love with this video mate great job
If you can walk away with a sound mind after listening to an explanation of the Trinity then you are indeed a gifted human being. Please share your experience with others.
Yeah, it's really a mind-bending false doctrine. In contrast, God's word of truth is clear and understandable.
Jesus said, "I do nothing of my own initiative; but just as the Father taught me, I speak these things." So Jesus does whatever he is told to do by his father. Also, note that Jesus is "taught", no one teaches God. Tell me this, what is the name of the Holy Spirit? The Father's name is "Jehovah". (Psm 83:18), The Son's name is "Jesus", but the Holy Spirit has no name. The reason for that is because the Holy Spirit is not a person like Jesus and God are, it's God's active force that he uses to accomplish his purpose. John 3:16 says that God sent his son, and Jesus said that God was going to send his Holy Spirit. "But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you." So, it's obvious that the Father is the one in charge. His will is what is carried out. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him. (John 13:16)
Why was Jesus' teachings so easy for the common people to understand? One main reason is that what he taught was the truth. (Math 22:16) The reason why the Trinity doctrine is so difficult to understand is because it is a lie, a pagan idea adopted after the apostasy occurred. (Acts 20:29,30) Truth can stand on its own, but a lie needs more lies to support it, so it becomes very confusing. The Apostle Paul made it abundantly clear who God is when he said, "For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” there is actually to us one God, the Father". He then went on to make a point that has proven true in the case of this TH-camr when he said, "However, not all have this knowledge". (1 Cor 8:5-7a) Another reason why Jesus' teachings were easily understood by the common people is because to get the understanding we need God's Holy Spirit and to get God's holy spirit we need to be humble, which Jesus and these common people were. (Mark 4:10-12) (Math 11:29) The Roman Catholic church which I used to belong is the one responsible for bringing the false doctrine of the Trinity into the church and this is what their own encyclopedia has to say about it, The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”-(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299. So, they admit that there was no teaching even resembling the Trinity while the Apostles were alive, this teaching came about more than 300 years after the apostasy and the death of the last Apostle, John.
Why? It’s not that difficult to understand
@@gamingwhilebroken2355 Jesus Christ and His Apostles didn't try to explain it because they already knew who the only true God is: YAHWEH
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Translate this: Does a Christian need to believe in the Trinity to be saved? And if so, why did our Savior, nor the disciples, ever teach the doctrine of the Trinity? Why would Christians give credence to a council of men coming together to argue who God is (The Council of Nicaea in 325 CE), and thereby seek to define God? Can mankind define God? No, God reveals Himself to mankind. 1 John 5:7-8, The Johannine Comma is an interpolation according to Christian scholars (words added) to the Bible by over-zealous Trinitarians, who wanted some testimony to the Trinity, due to the fact that in the Bible there is none. Matthew 28:19 has come under suspicion, a commandment allegedly given by Christ to the disciples, but the disciples only baptized in the Savior’s name only, as demonstrated in the Book of Acts. The early church historian Eusebius, wrote (published circa 316 CE) in his book, Matthew 28:19, that Christ actually said, "Go and make disciples of all the nations in my name" (Eusebius, The History of the Church, p. 68, PENGU1N CLASSICS, 1965). The Trinity has only really existed since the 4th century. Historian H.G. Wells factually stated, "There is no evidence that the apostles of Jesus ever heard of the Trinity-at any rate from Him" (The Outline of History, Vol. 2, p. 499). Martin Luther is quoted in a sermon saying, "It is indeed true that the name 'Trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man" (The Sermons of Martin Luther, Vol. 3, p. 406, 1988). It is time that the false Trinity Doctrine cease to exist in Christianity! Catholics and Protestants agree that “Whoever will be saved: before all things, it is necessary to keep the Catholic faith… unless he keeps this faith whole, he will perish everlastingly...And the Catholic faith is this: we worship one God in Trinity” (Catholicism, p. 69, 1961). Protestant professor of Theology James White, states, “The Trinity doctrine is misunderstood as well as ignored. It is so misunderstood that a majority of Christians when asked, give incorrect and at times downright heretical definitions of the Trinity” (James White, The Forgotten Trinity, p. 16). According to James White, around 75% of Christians, who think themselves to be Trinitarians, are actually Modalists. Modalism: One God who at different times represents Himself in three different modes of being: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. If belief in the Trinity doctrine is so critical to our salvation, then why did Christ and the disciples not preach the Trinity, which historically developed over 300 years after Christ? To say that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, when Christ never stipulated the doctrine as a prerequisite for salvation is the grossest form of legalism! The man-made Trinity Doctrine is so ingrained into the imagination of Christians for salvation when Christ and the apostles never ever taught it, that many will actually stand condemned for believing in the Trinity according to the Tradition of men, and not of God. Christ warned us about teaching doctrines without one thus says the LORD! And He...said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men…” He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition” (Mark 7:6-9). Christians do not need to believe in the Trinity in order to receive salvation and eternal life in the Kingdom of God! If Christians needed to believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, then it would be taught in the New Testament by our Lord and Savior, and it, the Trinity, was not taught in the New Testament. The Trinity is a useless Doctrine based solely on the misunderstanding of men. It is time for Christians to free themselves from the doctrines of men. The Son of God declared: “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:58). YAH is the meaning of I AM. By this statement, Christ told the Jews that He is their God, the very God of Israel. Not to take this statement as true in that He, the Son of God, is lesser than His Father and God is tantamount to calling Him a liar. Based on everything presented here, the statement by churches that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved is the highest form of legalism. But doesn’t Elohim prove the Trinity, after all it is plural. No. Elohim means Gods. The Trinity is the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God, and yet not three Gods [Elohim], One God [Eloah, or EL]. The true definition of Elohim is the God of gods (Deuteronomy 10:17).
Awesome Christian doctrine! I'm in seminary and referred to this video, my professor loved it!!!
gothope5915,
The Bible preaches A TRIUNE GOD, not The Trinity Doctrine which states '"THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"! YOU FAILED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "A TRIUNE GOD" & "THE TRINITY DOCTRINE"!
IF GOD IS NOT A TRIUNE GOD, WHY DID JESUS GIVE THE COMMAND TO BAPTISE "In The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit"?
God is triune is not the problem - the problem of the Trinity Doctrine is that it states that "THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"? BUT THE BIBLE PREACHES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT! Can you see the contradiction?
God is NOT "THREE...persons in ONE" BUT ONE GOD IN THREE FORMS - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT! Why can't God separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God"? JESUS SAID in John 16:27 "I CAME OUT FROM GOD".
If there is only ONE God and rightly, than how can Jesus be different Person from God the Father? If Jesus is the Savior and God also claimed He is the ONLY Savior and none else, so did the Bible get confused and anyone speak lie?
I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN (Philippians 2:9).
Wow. Thank you! I always was thinking about it the wrong way. Thanks for making it clear
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity:
"And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19)
"And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29)
"Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22)
"G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19)
"If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4)
"and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
I am still so confused. Every way I try to wrap my mind around it comes to a heresy.
And so it should because it is found nowhere in the Bible. Read these scripturas and tell me why would anyone believe that Jesus is God almighty:
👉And this is eternal life, that they may know YOU, THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
John 17:3
👉yet for us there is ONE GOD, THE FATHER from whom are all things, and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.
1 Corinthians 8:6
👉 For there is ONE GOD, and ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given at the proper time.
1 Timothy 2:5-6
👉and ye are Christ’s; and Christ is God’s.
1 Corinthians 3:23 ASV
👉Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, TO MY GOD AND YOUR GOD.'" John 20:17
👉 the same came unto him by night, and said to him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that thou doest, except God be with him.
John 3:2 ASV
👉 And Jesus advanced in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men.
Luke 2:52 ASV
👉 and walk in love, even as Christ also loved you, and gave himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for an odor of a sweet smell.
Ephesians 5:2 ASV
👉 For Christ entered not into a holy place made with hands, like in pattern to the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear before the face of God for us:
Hebrews 9:24 ASV
👉 “to the only wise God, through Jesus Christ, to whom be the glory for ever. Amen.”
Romans 16:27 ASV
👉and has made us to be a kingdom and priests TO SERVE HIS GOD AND FATHER--to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.
Rev 1:6
👉Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--EXCEPT GOD ALONE.
Luke 18:19
👉For just as the Father has life in Himself, so He gave to the Son also to have life in Himself;
John 5:26
How is God granted to have life in himself?
"And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, 👉Jehovah, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob,👈hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.
Exodus 3:15
👉The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Servant Jesus👈; whom ye delivered up, and denied before the face of Pilate, when he had determined to release him.
Acts 3:13 ASV
👉 to the only wise God, through Jesus Christ, to whom be the glory for ever. Amen.
Romans 16:27 ASV
👉to the only God our Saviour, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion and power, before all time, and now, and for evermore. Amen.
Jude 1:25
👉one Lord, one faith, one baptism, ONE GOD AND FATHER of all, who is over all, and through all, and in all.
Ephesians 4:5-6 ASV
👉For they themselves report concerning us what manner of entering in we had unto you; and how ye turned unto God from idols, to serve a living and TRUE GOD, and to wait for HIS SON from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, who delivereth us from the wrath to come.
1 Thessalonians 1:9-10 ASV
👉 that THE GOD OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, the Father of glory, may give unto you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him;
Ephesians 1:17 ASV
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👉 "Let not your heart be troubled: BELIEVE IN GOD, BELIEVE ALSO IN ME.
John 14:1
👉He that overcometh, I will make him a pillar in the temple of MY GOD, and he shall go out thence no more: and I will write upon him the name of MY GOD, and the name of the city of MY GOD, the new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from MY GOD, and mine own new name.
Revelation 3:12 ASV
👉 And one of the scribes came, and heard them questioning together, and knowing that he had answered them well, asked him, What commandment is the first of all? Jesus answered, The first is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God, the Lord is one: and thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength. The second is this, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. And the scribe said unto him, Of a truth, Teacher, thou hast well said that HE is one; and there is none other but HE: and to love HIM with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbor as himself, is much more than all whole burnt-offerings and sacrifices.
Mark 12:28-33 ASV
👉 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God the Almighty, and the Lamb, are the temple thereof.
Revelation 21:22 ASV
👉 Ye men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God unto you by mighty works and wonders and signs which God did by him in the midst of you, even as ye yourselves know; him, being delivered up by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye by the hand of lawless men did crucify and slay: whom God raised up, having loosed the pangs of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.
Acts 2:22-24 ASV
👉that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him; having the eyes of your heart enlightened, that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, and what the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to that working of the strength of his might which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and made him to sit at his right hand in the heavenly places,
Ephesians 1:17-20 ASV
👉Let all the house of Israel therefore know assuredly, that God hath made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom ye crucified.
Acts 2:36 ASV
13 When he had come into the region of Caes·a·reʹa Phi·lipʹpi, Jesus asked his disciples: “Who are men saying the Son of man is?”
14 They said: “Some say John the Baptist, others E·liʹjah, and still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” 15 He said to them: “You, though, who do you say I am?”
16 Simon Peter answered: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 In response Jesus said to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Joʹnah, because flesh and blood did not reveal it to you, but my Father in the heavens did.
Notice Jesus says it is the Father in the heavens that reveal the truth to Peter and not himself.
Acts 2:36 Therefore, let all the house of Israel know for a certainty that God made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you executed on a stake.”
👉Now when Jesus came into the parts of Cوsarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Who do men say that the Son of man is? And they said, Some say John the Baptist; some, Elijah; and others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets. He saith unto them, But who say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jonah: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father who is in heaven.
Matthew 16:13-17 ASV
⁸👉 (Speaking about Yahweh): “And now the LORD says, he who formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob back to him; and that Israel might be gathered to him - for I [the Messiah] am honored in the eyes of the LORD [Yahweh], and my God has become my strength - he says: ‘It is too light a thing that you should be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob and to bring back the preserved of Israel; I will make you as a light for the nations, that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth.'”
👉 Micah 5:4 - And he [the Messiah] shall stand and shepherd his flock in the strength of the LORD, in the majesty of the name of the LORD [Yahweh] his God. And they shall dwell secure, for now he shall be great to the ends of the earth.
👉even Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed him with the Holy Spirit and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
Acts 10:38 ASV
👉 For there are certain men crept in privily, even they who were of old written of beforehand unto this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
Jude 1:4 ASV
👉to all that are in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is proclaimed throughout the whole world.
Romans 1:7-8 ASV
👉 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. How can ye believe, who receive glory one of another, and the glory that cometh from the only God ye seek not?
John 5:43-44 ASV
👉 For they themselves report concerning us what manner of entering in we had unto you; and how ye turned unto God from idols, to serve a living and true God, and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, who delivereth us from the wrath to come.
1 Thessalonians 1:9-10 ASV
JAMES 2;19
If I may be permitted to share two observations:
First, in Luke 22:42 we see that Jesus of Nazareth had an independent will from his Heavenly Father, which he surrendered to his Father;
Second, in both Isaiah 48:16,17 & Zechariah 2:10,11 we ascertain that the Son was "sent" by the LORD God (Yahweh Elohim). When we compare these with John 3:17 we may ascertain that the Father of Jesus is Yahweh.
AHA. JESUS SAID IT IN JOHN 3;13
That is correct! Jesus and his disciples believe this truth.
(1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God, the Father,
This is a tough one to wrap your mind around. Analogies may fail to entirely be accurate, but it helps people to grasp the concept. I think my favorite right now relates to gardening. The soil you plant seeds into must have dirt, water and air. Without one of these and your garden will fail. But if they have all these the plants will flourish.
No, that's partialism again.
Ponder this question: What is the one thing a God - infinite, omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient in nature - lacks? The answer is something like Boundaries. Boundaries give way, shape and form to the infinite. Like music. There is an infinitude to music, but we impose genres (Boundaries) on it to make it understandable, workable and beautiful. But there are no hard defined boarders between genres, and the nature of music within the genres is still infinite. A genre is still music but uniquely identifiable from the other genres. I think what genre does for music is the same function as what the father, the son and the holy spirit do for god. Without such boundaries there is no trinity. Without boundaries the infinite cannot explore, understand and experience itself.
@acevfx2923 if mine was partialism,then yours is partialism on steroids. Maybe you can explain your position better. We humans can't really put boundaries on God. We will need eternity to even begin to figure Him out. Meanwhile, we do what we can to understand God through the things we know from His creation around us. These are all finite illustrations for the infinite One. Consider the eternal nature of God, for example. I see the endless expanse of the universe as the best illustration for His eternal nature. But even then, we poor mortals can barely wrap our heads around that concept.
@LairdKenneth no you missunderstand, let me try and explain it better. This not my own idea, so I'm probably not doing it justice, but here I go anyway.
We did not impose boundaries on god to understand him. God imposses boundaries(the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit) on his own nature to help him understand himself.
Your example is partialism because it's three completely separate ingredients if you will.
The nature of god is infinite, omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, etc. The self-imposed boundaries would not take away from this but instead help navigate it. Much like numbers, there are an infinite amount of them, but that's not helpful, so to make it workable, one can set up boundaries to create a workable range - say numbers 0 through 1. Although limited, the numbers 0 through 1 still represent an infinite amount of numbers, and it contains 2s, 3s, 4s, 5s, 6s, 7s, 8s, and 9s. Just not 2, because the range of 2 through 3 has been assigned a different boundary. A different genre if you will. Now the ranges are uniquely identifiable, but they are all still the same and fill the same function and are not partial - or separate - from each other
The music aspect helps understand why it is helpful to do this. Music is also infinite in nature, and if music doesn't have any structure it cannot be understood, it cannot be beautiful and it can not be lived and experienced. Structure brings harmony. So, genre comes into play. A genre has no hard limits. Genre isn't partialism, because genre can crossover and is vague, and genre still contains the same musical infinity; yet genre is uniquely identifiable and it makes music beautiful. Which is important if we are all wanting to harmonize with it.
So what are you left with: the nature of music is still infinite (much like the nature of god is infinite) but super imposed on that we have rock, pop and rap (the father, the son and the holy spirit). Each uniquely identifiable yet still the same and infinite and not separate from each other. Because they can also crossover. Rock-rap. Pop-rock. Pop-rap. And the genre is still fully music.
If that still doesn't make any sense, there is a scholars lecture I can look up for you and directly qoute on the most recent understanding of the 11 dimensional structure of the universe and how the the infinite(god, 11D) needs to impose boundaries(humans, 3D) to help navigate and understand itself, because without that dynamic there would be practically no difference between existence and non-existence.
@acevfx2923 Ah yes, academics. Where else would people imagine God needs help in understanding Himself?
I confess to not being much of an academic myself, but I have completed a certain level of education and found that while it really does help civilization on multiple levels, I came away with the sense that it is a rather self-serving enterprise. Consider how the Roman Catholic Church deemed itself for many years, the sole interpreter of scripture. People's understanding of God and Christianity fell lower and lower. Fortunately, God sent reformers like Luther, Jerome, and Huss to bring us out of the darkness.
Complex explanations of God, the Trinity, and salvation do little to draw people to their Savior. It is often the simple explanations drawn from the created world around them (each radiating with the touch, or might I say, signature, of the Creator) that help souls to connect with God and find Salvation.
One can find fault with any given illustration. Yet it was the day to day examples of life that Jesus Himself used to lead people to a closer walk with God.
The earth may have different elements, like soil, sea, and sky, but it is their interactions and mixing that support life on our wee planet. That earthen trinity falls short of the Devine Trinity, but does help many to gain a better understanding of our Creator, and through it find a saving relationship with Jesus our Lord.
Why the Bible lacks an explicit verse describing the trinity? I'm not speaking about a particular word 'trinity' but the concept. The identity of God is the most fundamental thing and yet the bible lacks an explicit statement that describes the trinity. This fact alone proves that Trinity is a man-made false doctrine.
Infact, the bible explicitly tells us about the identity of one God.
"For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) but to us there is but *one God, the Father,* of whom are all things, and we in him; and *one Lord Jesus Christ,* by whom are all things, and we by him"
(1 corinthians 8: 5,6)
because sola Scriptura is false.
The Holy Spirit descended on Jesus when he was baptized by John the Baptist and a voice came from Heaven saying "This is my Son in whom I am well pleased". That voice clearly came from the Father. There's also scripture in John (in chapters 14, 15, and 16.) where Jesus talks about ascending to the Father so He can send the Holy Spirit. In Genesis 1:26-28, God said let us make man in our image and likeness. The Hebrew word for God in that verse is Elohim which is the plural of El. This also demonstrates the Trinity without using the word Trinity. Otherwise, who's us in Genesis 1:26-18 when God said let us make man in our image and likeness.
Scripture: Genesis 1:26-28, Matthew 3:16-17, John 14:15-18, John 14:25-28, John 15:18-27, John 16:5-16, Matthew 12:31-32, Matthew 28:19, Luke 4:1, Luke 11:9-13, 1 John 5:7
@@healingthroughchrist1988
None of the verses mentioned by you explicitly states the idea that 'One God exists as three distinct persons namely the Father, Son and Spirit'.
There is a semi-explicit verse in the King James version. It reads: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
(1 John 5:7)
However, this verse had not been present in the original text & was later added into the Bible by trinitarian scribes. In short, there exists zero explicit verse in the entire Bible that states this idea. This fact alone proves that the doctrine is man-made.
@@CellCODE So, how do you explain the other scriptures I gave? They include scripture of Jesus mentioning the Father and the Holy Spirit in the same verse.
@@healingthroughchrist1988
I don't understand your logic. How mentioning Father, Son and Spirit in the same verse anywhere close to an explicit statement of trinity?
I’m so thankful that someone my age is teaching the word of God.
how do you know how old he is?
@@alpha-omega2362 he's probably just implying in his age group. gen z.
@@alpha-omega2362 he is a zoomer.
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity:
"And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19)
"And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29)
"Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22)
"G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19)
"If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4)
"and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
[3:78] Among them are those who twist their tongues to imitate the scripture, that you may think it is from the scripture, when it is not from the scripture, and they claim that it is from GOD, when it is not from GOD. Thus, they utter lies and attribute them to GOD, knowingly.
My brother in Christ this is fantastic! I have had many Mormon, JW, and even a Black Hebrew Israelite challenge me on the Trinity.
My normal answer is Jesus' Baptism and John 1:1 but you have put together a fantastic video.
I'm LCMS Lutheran. I would love to see a video that compares the Lutheran and Reformed churches because I see so much common ground.
Happy Easter my friend
He did a video on that topic while back: th-cam.com/video/W-WbbQI9U9M/w-d-xo.html
Happy Easter!
Easter Blessings from a fellow confessional Lutheran! I would check out Jordan B. Cooper’s “The Great Divide” for an analysis of Reformed vs. Lutheran theology.
Jesus' baptism does not confirm the pagan and unbiblical version of God nor does John 1:1. They do not say God is 3 persons 1 being, no verse in the Bible says that and no reading of it would you conclude that God is 3 persons 1 being.
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@@dylanwilliams2202 Sorry but LDS is polytheistic, created by a man with hallucinations just like Muhammed. Read the Bible alone, only there lies salvation
I cant get "thats modalism patrick!" Out of my head..
millimeter2008,
The Bible preaches A TRIUNE GOD, not The Trinity Doctrine which states '"THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"! YOU FAILED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "A TRIUNE GOD" & "THE TRINITY DOCTRINE"!
IF GOD IS NOT A TRIUNE GOD, WHY DID JESUS GIVE THE COMMAND TO BAPTISE "In The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit"?
God is triune is not the problem - the problem of the Trinity Doctrine is that it states that "THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"? BUT THE BIBLE PREACHES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT! Can you see the contradiction?
God is NOT "THREE...persons in ONE" BUT ONE GOD IN THREE FORMS - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT! Why can't God separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God"? JESUS SAID in John 16:27 "I CAME OUT FROM GOD".
If there is only ONE God and rightly, than how can Jesus be different Person from God the Father? If Jesus is the Savior and God also claimed He is the ONLY Savior and none else, so did the Bible get confused and anyone speak lie?
I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN.
@@alphonsedenny4962 yea I worship this too... It's just a joke I said man.. This argument can definitely be somewhere else tho
3:21 THAT'S MODALISM PATRICK!!
The most essential doctrine mentioned ZERO times by the apostles. 🤔
Because it’s a doctrine of man. There was a debate of over the nature of God. It got so intense that there was a declaration that those who didn’t believe in the view that was popular should be killed, but then the popular view changed and those who didn’t believe that view should be killed.
ikr its killing me. how can somone be their own dad. also how tf could god even have a child? did he impregnate mary with his holy sperm? makes more sense to say he created jesus in marys womb the same way he did adam.
exactly lol
It is, it's just that if you don't wanna know you won't know, you know?
@@Schmitty34 nuh uh
Better than 99% of trinity explanations in youtube. Trinity can be hard to understand so it is important to point out what it is but expecially what it isn't.
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity:
"And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19)
"And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29)
"Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22)
"G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19)
"If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4)
"and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
There is a good reason why it is hard to understand.
As for what it is, it's a satanic doctrine from Babylon and Egypt that was adopted by the Church after the death of the Apostles, and after the apostasy that both Jesus and the Apostles prophesied would take place. (Math 13:24-30, 36-42)
"I know that after my going away oppressive wolves will enter in among you and will not treat the flock with tenderness, and from among you yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves." (Acts 20:29,30)
As for what it isn't, it's not a scriptural teaching.
God, Jesus, the Apostles, and pre-Christian servants of God all made it clear that God is not a Trinity.
(1) Pre-Christians - "May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth". (Psm 83:18)
(2) The Apostles - "For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” there is actually to us one God, the Father". (1 Cor 8:5,6a)
(3) Jesus - "Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’” (Math 4:10) "Jesus said to her: “go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”. (John 20:17)
(4) God himself - "“I am Jehovah. That is my name; I give my glory to no one else, nor my praise to graven images.” (Isiah 42:8
And have you ever noticed that the Father has a name "Jehovah". The Son has a name, "Jesus". But the Holy Spirit has no name? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔Have you ever wondered why? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@michaelprince6798 I do believe you are speaking about things that you don't understand. I try to explain some of your misunderstandings.
1. Indeed Christianity formed in a world with many different religions and such had to use languages that were not meant for it. Biggest effect on the doctrine of the Trinity was Platonism and other Greek philosophies. Trinity is however completely original dogma and this can clearly be seen in any book on the matter. Terms "hypostases" (wrongly translated to persons usually) and Homoousion (again wrongly translated to nature) are from Greek culture. Latin and Greek were the common language so Christianity had to use it to spread the word of God.
2. Fathers name is not Jehovah. As psalm clearly says Jehovah is the name of the God, not one hypostasis of the God. Father's name is simply Father.
3. Jesus is not the Son, He is the incarnation of the Son. Son's name is simply Son.
4. The Holy Spirit has a name like the others it's name simply The Holy Spirit.
5. Jesus orders us and says "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" matthew 28:19. Confirming the names of the trinity and that the trinity is the God.
6. We all are allowed to believe what we want, but we also should strive to not misrepresent others. I hope my comment has inspired to you to do more research on the matter. Good start being this video.
Acts 17:29
“Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.”
As latter day saint, the more i learn about the trinity, the more i believe it was designed to be as confusing as possible so that people won't question it
Except everyone kijda questions it precisely because it's really complex. If people "don't question it," there wouldn't be so much discussion and literature about it.
Well, it is one of the most questioned things in Christianity
Of course the Trinity its complicated we are talking about the creator of the Universe
Everything about God is confusing though. We can't grasp omniscience, omnipresence, omnipotence and moral perfection. Why should we be able to grasp the nature of God's existence?
The Trinity was brought in by you-know-who to:
1. Disfigure the identity of the Only True God Jehovah.
2. To make the sacrifice of Jesus invalid in the minds of such believers.
Compare 2 Corinthians 4:4.
This makes me feel like I’m drinking water after being dehydrated… another great video zoomer, you are doing our generation proud 😊
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity:
"And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19)
"And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29)
"Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22)
"G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19)
"If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4)
"and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
Christian zoomer 💀, Sad times
it's not hard to make your generation proud.
a flat earther realizing that the earth is round makes your generation proud
@@sheepketchup9059 sheep ketchup
Trinitarian analogies can be really helpful if we make the proper negations and distinctions.
The 3 states of water is probably the closest we're going to get. 🤷
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity:
"And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19)
"And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29)
"Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22)
"G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19)
"If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4)
"and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
@Cheese Grater I agree, all happening at the same time, all with the same power, yet all "TIME"
@@zavery_johnson
Or a hand going into two dimensional space. Beings there could see different persons (digits on the hand) but those are all one hand. Just like a two dimensional being could not and cannot truly comprehend what they are seeing or interacting with we too cannot truly comprehend the trinity. Three persons as one being.
You’d just have to explain that it is not a one to one analogy, but merely to illustrate the concept of how one thing (God) can be three persons. That the father, son, and spirit are not equivalent to digits and God is not equivalent to a hand. It’s just to show how something by nature of how existence words limits our perspective and understanding of how three can be one. Hopefully that makes sense.
@gamingwhilebroken2355 Yeah, we pretty much have to accept that the Father, the Son, and the Spirit just "𝘪𝘴".
Father creates us
Son reddems us
Spirit changes us
The Holy Spirit proceeds from The Father. And the Father alone. Read the creed before the westerners changed it. The Filioque is also a heresy.
The analogy I use (to explain trinity in unity and unity in trinity not to explain their differences) is I take 3 matches, and put them together, each one is perfect light and join to make perfect light. That's the closest I've gotten lol.
Good to see another Orthodox here. It's crazy how many of these questions can be answered if people just looked at our history a little bit.
@@SeraphimVolker I know right, I just was trying to quote st. John of Damascus to someone. Never in the first 1000 years did we believe this. Sad to see how out religion has been diluted, but the Filioque is still less of an issue compared to some other heresies.
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@@henridib7222 The Filioque is just linguistic pedantry. It's a literal non-issue, and both the Catholic and Orthodox churches know that.
On the other hand, Orthodoxy is a schismatic sect, and y'all should really merge back with us soon.
But wasn't Pentecost when Jesus sent out the Holy Spirit? That's the biblical explanation for why I believe He proceeds from the father and the Son
This whole video summed up "It's a mystery bro, trust us on this convoluted nonsense or you're a heretic, please don't read the Bible"
Cool
TripleCOddyssey,
The Bible preaches A TRIUNE GOD, not The Trinity Doctrine which states '"THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"! YOU FAILED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "A TRIUNE GOD" & "THE TRINITY DOCTRINE"!
IF GOD IS NOT A TRIUNE GOD, WHY DID JESUS GIVE THE COMMAND TO BAPTISE "In The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit"?
God is triune is not the problem - the problem of the Trinity Doctrine is that it states that "THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE FATHER OR THE SON"? BUT THE BIBLE PREACHES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT! Can you see the contradiction?
God is NOT "THREE...persons in ONE" BUT ONE GOD IN THREE FORMS - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT! Why can't God separate Himself and come to earth AS "The Son of God"? JESUS SAID in John 16:27 "I CAME OUT FROM GOD".
If there is only ONE God and rightly, than how can Jesus be different Person from God the Father? If Jesus is the Savior and God also claimed He is the ONLY Savior and none else, so did the Bible get confused and anyone speak lie?
I WORSHIP THE ONE GOD THE FATHER WHO MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH). WHEN WE WORSHIP GOD IN HIS NAME YHWH (YaHuWaH), WE WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT AS ALL THREE HAVE THE SAME ONE GLORIOUS/GREATEST NAME IN EARTH & HEAVEN.
@@alphonsedenny4962 The Bible crystal clearly teaches a Tritheism. God the Father, his Son Jesus Christ, and their messenger the Holy Ghost. 3 distinct beings that are unified as the Godhead in purpose and will, not in substance.
@@TripleCOddyssey ,
YOU STATED "3 distinct beings that are unified as the Godhead in purpose and will, not in substance" - YOU ARE WRONG. GOD CAN BE SEPARATE BUT NOT DISTINCT! Isaiah understood this and stated in Isaiah 9:6 that JESUS IS THE EVERLASTING FATHER YHWH. It is very important that one should know and believe that JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER (in His Glorified Body). If this is not very important, then WHY DID JESUS SAY IN JOHN 8:24 “FOR IF YE BELIEVE NOT THAT I AM HE, YE SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS”. Who does the “HE” refer to? THE CONTEXT OF THIS SPEECH WAS ABOUT GOD THE FATHER. Read verse 27 "They understood not that HE SPAKE TO THEM OF THE FATHER". John 8:28 “WHEN YE HAVE LIFTED UP the Son of man (when you have unveiled ME), then shall ye know that I AM HE (then you will realize that I AM GOD THE FATHER- YHWH in the flesh form)”. JESUS SAID THAT HE IS THE ALMIGHTY GOD in Revelation 1:8. John 14:9 "he who has seen me has seen the FATHER" - JESUS DID NOT SAY "he who has seen me has seen "His Son"!
@@TripleCOddysseyThey arent distinct. They are one.
I literally prayed this morning for clarity, thank you. Do you have a video on “once saved always saved”?
Here you go th-cam.com/video/Tb3Q4nRQjVY/w-d-xo.html
It is biblical, if you are truly saved you have a the Holy Spirit, once you have that you never depart from God.
Concrete, Undeniable, Solid, Foolproof Biblical Passages that Disprove that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a trinity:
"And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the L-rd spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth. And lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, which the L-rd your G-d assigned to all peoples under the entire heaven, and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them." (Deuteronomy 4: 15-19)
"And there you will worship gods, man's handiwork, wood and stone, which neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. And from there you will seek the L-rd your G-d, and you will find Him, if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 4: 28-29)
"Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, the L-rd, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving G-d there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am G-d, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45: 20-22)
"G-d is not a man that He should lie, nor a Son of Man that He should change His mind." (Numbers 23:19)
"If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the L-rd, your G-d, is testing you, to know whether you really love the L-rd, your G-d, with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13: 2-4)
"and lest you inquire about their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? And I will do likewise." You shall not do so to the L-rd, your G-d; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
@@cinesanti7 7Ye offer polluted bread upon mine altar; and ye say, Wherein have we polluted thee? In that ye say, The table of the LORD is contemptible.
8And if ye offer the blind for sacrifice, is it not evil? and if ye offer the lame and sick, is it not evil? offer it now unto thy governor; will he be pleased with thee, or accept thy person? saith the LORD of hosts.
9And now, I pray you, beseech God that he will be gracious unto us: this hath been by your means: will he regard your persons? saith the LORD of hosts.
10Who is there even among you that would shut the doors for nought? neither do ye kindle fire on mine altar for nought. I have no pleasure in you, saith the LORD of hosts, neither will I accept an offering at your hand.
11For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts.
12But ye have profaned it, in that ye say, The table of the LORD is polluted; and the fruit thereof, even his meat, is contemptible.
13Ye said also, Behold, what a weariness is it! and ye have snuffed at it, saith the LORD of hosts; and ye brought that which was torn, and the lame, and the sick; thus ye brought an offering: should I accept this of your hand? saith the LORD.
14But cursed be the deceiver, which hath in his flock a male, and voweth, and sacrificeth unto the Lord a corrupt thing: for I am a great King, saith the LORD of hosts, and my name is dreadful among the heathen.
@@user-in5ru2cd9l No, it isn't Biblical. None of what you said is true.
It is unbiblical to say that you receive the gift of the Holy Spirit by just believing. In Acts 8 Philip is preaching and baptizing people in the name of the lord (Acts 8:13), however it wasn't until Peter and John came down that those people started to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands. Acts 8:14-17 "Now when the apostles at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent Peter and John to them. *15 The two went down and prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit 16 (for as yet the Spirit had not come upon any of them; they had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus). 17 Then Peter and John laid their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit."*
In Acts 19:1-6 it describes the way things were done. Acts 19:1-6 “While Apollos was in Corinth, Paul passed through the interior regions and came to Ephesus, where he found some disciples. 2 He said to them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you became believers?” They replied, “No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.” 3 Then he said, “Into what, then, were you baptized?” They answered, “Into John’s baptism.” 4 Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is, in Jesus.” 5 On hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 *When Paul had laid his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came upon them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied”*
People who unrepentantly sin do not inherit the kingdom of heaven (Matthew 19:17-20, John 5:29, Galatians 5:19-21, Ephesians 5:3-5) and knowing what is right and not doing it is sin (James 4:17). If you are sinning the you are obeying sin and it is your master, not Christ. Romans 6:16 "Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?"
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I am a catholic, although we're from different denominations I like your channel, it helps me to understand certain things which are a little confusing 🙃
the thing that is confusing you, is the catholic trinity doctrine, its confusing because its nonsensical, its by definition, nonsense.
the christian holy bible, teaches that God is one, the Father. it also teaches that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God. a man who was born of a virgin.
the christian faith is not confusing at all.
the trinitarian/catholic faith is very confusing, because its nonsense.
the holy bible says that God is not the author of confusion, thats why the trinity doctrine is not written in the bible.
@@jesusisthechristthesonofgod do you want to an omnipotent omniscient omnipresent being to make sense? for our humans minds it doesn't, but they're limited
@@miguellobo4841 God does make sense, God is not the author of confusion. The devil is the one who spreads confusion.
The most confusing video doesnt exi-
That's the point. Basically is the representation of divine nature. Is out of our way of understanding existence.
It's unfathomable but not illogical. Important distinction
@@takkovacs986 But the base of a religion should be simple and clear to understand
@@gabriel.notfound its the literal definition of illogical.
If I go to 100 different christian scholars I'm going to get 100 different answers
@@rakiri209 What church are you going to? The church of mormon?
The problem is that we humans need analogy to comprehend things outside our ability to comprehend. Without it, I don’t think Christianity would have spread in the pagan world as quickly as it did. We Christians subsist on faith and are comforted in the belief that the answers to our questions await us when we pass from this life. In the meantime, thanks very much for this explanation of our central tenet.
The "faith" you are describing is blind faith, which is not scriptural faith. Scriptural faith is one based on evidence. (Heb 11:1) In the scriptures God commands us to
"Keep testing whether you are in the faith; keep proving what you yourselves are". (2 Cor 13:5) If you had done that you would have known that God is not a Trinity.
God, Jesus, the Apostles, and pre-Christian servants of God all made it clear that God is not a Trinity.
(1) Pre-Christian servants - "May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth". (Psm 83:18)
(2) The Apostles - "For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” there is actually to us one God, the Father". (1 Cor 8:5,6a)
(3) Jesus - "Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’” (Math 4:10) "Jesus said to her: “go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”. (John 20:17)
(4) God himself - "“I am Jehovah. That is my name; I give my glory to no one else, nor my praise to graven images.” (Isiah 42:8)
Jesus knew that. That's why He always spoke in parables. And He uses parables/comparisons all throughout the Old and New Testament. Having background knowledge helps us to connect to new information.
Makes ya wonder why He never thought to compare Himself to anything that even remotely resembles 3-in-1.
Thank you for making this video. After all these decades, I'm still learning new stuff about the Lord which I thought was supposed to be basic. It was arrogant of me to think I could wrap my head around an infinite complex Being that created an infinite and complex universe. Got to think of Plato's "I know, I know nothing". I take an entire useless Philosophy course in the universities and I learned nothing but the worthless communist manifesto. Yet, I take five minutes learning about the Lord and immediately I'm taken out of my bubble and my world view is shattered.
"Philosophy is a walk on a slippery rock". False "Religion (with its Satanic Trinity) is a smile on a dog".
Rather than putting blind faith in a Babylonish and Egyptian false doctrine, we should seek the truth from God's word. "All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness". (2 Tim 3:16)
God, Jesus, the Apostles, and pre-Christian servants of God all made it clear that God is not a Trinity.
(1) Pre-Christians - "May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth". (Psm 83:18)
(2) The Apostles - "For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” there is actually to us one God, the Father". (1 Cor 8:5,6a)
(3) Jesus - "Jesus said to her: “go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”. (John 20:17)
(4) God himself - "“I am Jehovah. That is my name; I give my glory to no one else, nor my praise to graven images.” (Isiah 42:8)
2nd Corinthians chp 1 verse 3
[ Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ with all Spiritual blessings from above ]
I’m kind of confused about this. I’ve studied out the trinity vs oneness quiet a bit and there are a couple of things that make me question trinity. For instance Luke1:35 says that the Holy Ghost overshadowed Mary not the father. And Isaiah 9:6 days the Sons name shall be called everlasting Father. So now I’m seeing the son is the father the Holy Ghost is the father and the father is the father. What do you think about this?
There are many more flaws to be mentioned. Its hard to believe in a doctrine never properly expressed.
Most essential Christian belief and yet the apostles didn't know about it???
Maybe is cuz the Apostles were not Christians after all...
Common misconceptions from pagan western beliefs.
trinity is a man-made doctrine!!
Prophet Jesus never taught his disciples about the Trinity Concept, even the apostles of Jesus did not teach the Trinity concept.
The Trinity concept originated in the Catholic Church in the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD(300 years after the death of Jesus) and you can read that from their books the Trinity concept was adapted also by the Protestant Churches.
Jesus never ever claimed to be divine as he himself prayed to Father who is the one and only TRUE GOD.
Jesus said that the true worshippers would be worshipping the Father...not himself. ( John 4: 23, 24 )
@@14-Peaks
In John 12 27 - 30
“Now My soul has become troubled; and what am I to say? ‘Father, save Me from this hour’? But for this purpose I came to this hour. Father, glorify Your name.” Then a voice came out of heaven: “I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.” So the crowd who stood by and heard it were saying that it had thundered; others were saying, “An angel has spoken to Him!” Jesus responded and said, “This voice has not come for My sake, but for yours.
Jesus in this moment said that the voice didn't come down for His sake, but for the christian's sake. Now I don't know if this is for all cases, but I find it interesting that a lot of the prayers that Jesus did were written down, as if Jesus wanted those words to be read in the future. And on a side note, what is the name that the Father is glorifying?
In another verse Jesus said to them in John 8: 58 “Truly, truly I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.” Which is interesting because when Jesus said that, the Jews tried stoning Jesus. Why would Jesus implicate that he was God?
Now, one theory I have is that Jesus didn't want everyone to know he really was God. The purpose for Jesus coming down was to be killed in order to save people from their sins. If everyone knew he was God, he wouldn't have been crucified, and thus, not saving everybody.
They did though we can clearly see it in Paul’s and John’s writings. In Colossians 2:9 Paul clearly states Jesus is God and in John 1 John also clearly says Jesus is God. There is also Peter who when he saw Jesus after He resurrected he said “my Lord and my God”
@@JesusIsOurLord-xk9zz Paul never met Jesus and was not a disciple of JESUS.
if John or Paul or Thomas or Peter calls someone divine, does that make anyone divine?
if you call someone divine, does it make anyone divine???
what did Jesus himself teach?
Almost had a stroke trying to wrap my head around what's in this video, now i understand why people mock the trinity so much, lol!
Father in us
Son in us
Spirit in us