Unplanned Review | Say MovieNight Kevin
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- What SHE saw changed everything! But what did KEVIN see when he saw Unplanned? It's the story of former Planned Parenthood worker Abby Johnson. Find out every single thought Kevin has about this movie, and maybe some thoughts he doesn't in this deep dive review. It's fun, trust me.
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As someone who has read the book and seen the movie, I admit I don't really understand the point of making Cheryl (aka Cruella) so obviously evil? Of course, in the directors'/screenwriters' mind, the movie needs a scapegoat, but Cheryl wasn't as proeminent in the book as she is in the movie, but it is said that Abby saw her as a mentor figure and someone she wanted to be like. Here, you just don't get why Abby doesn't run the heck away from her. And while the P.O.C. room is mentioned in the book, we do not get the scene where Cheryl and Abby go and Cheryl determines that Abby will replace her since she doesn't react to seeing baby parts - and that addition is not only plain disturbing, you also don't understand why going in the P.O.C. room doesn't make her crack but seeing a live abortion does, apparently...
In the book, did Cheryl say "abortions are our fries..." while also grabbing Abby-that's a lawsuit.
@@jge8144 Nope. Seriously, everything "bad" in this movie either isn't in the book or is changed in a way that it's made bad.
@@irinakermong1217 yeah, I had a feeling she didn't say that. With the exceptions of a few, christians need to be mindful of their creative liberties. In I Can Only Imagine, the first drafts portayed Bart's mother in a bad light and the real Bart had them revise it.
@@irinakermong1217 just one more question, please. Were Abby's family always having a naysay about her job? That would be a good christian movie about Christians working at PP.
@@jge8144 Yep. Like, they should have either presented the film that way, with more nuance, or either dropped the drama and made a documentary instead. Both would have presented a better movie.
I wish they had included a scene of the boss lady in a room laughing maniacally while yelling, "More abortions! MOAAR!!" Then maybe have her calm down and look at Abbey an say, " The only good baby is a dead baby." Then the voiceover kicks in with Abbey: "It was then that I began to realize something wasn't quite right."
LOL Someone should recut it and voice over dialogue.
@@aadams1006 YES! We need a Kickstarter for a fan cut with new footage hahah
Ummm.... that’s actually not to far beyond the reality of a lot of people. They just won’t admit that they feel that way because they’re cowards and will be exposed
@@chrisobrien6254 So what's the current status of LALA Land?
@@dantealighieri8403 never better!
Oh man firstly it's a hilarious social faux pas to hear a happily married coworker is pregnant and has given no indication she's unhappy about it, and say, "We can take care of that for you." It's like assuming a vet is walking around offering to euthanize their coworkers' dogs.
Secondly I love how straight-up illegal it is to pressure your female employee to get an abortion in order to get a promotion. Which isn't to it never happens, but one of the last places I'd expect to see it is in an apparently all-female office, especially one which specializes in, among other things, FREE PRENATAL CARE. (I know the film says this office has days where they only do abortions, but they sure gloss over what services they're offering on those other days.)
Haha, it’s almost like this film is acting in bad faith.
Planned Parenthood doesn't offer prenatal care. Their non-abortion services range from preventative methods like contraceptives, STD testing and treatment, hormone replacement therapy, et cetera. But they don't have OB-GYNs on staff and they don't provide prenatal.
@@ameliahaynes-standeven5284 Um... what? The only people who do abortions *are* obstetricians and gynecologists. I did a search on the Planned Parenthood website, and of the 50 nearest health clinics to my Zip Code, 31 of the 32 clinics that perform Abortions also do Pregnancy Testing and Services (which includes prenatal services). The other 18 clinics that don't do abortions also provide Pregnancy Testing and Services.
Here's a link showing that Prenatal Care is a thing that Planned Parenthood offers, on their website. www.plannedparenthood.org/get-care/our-services/pregnancy-testing-services
@@ameliahaynes-standeven5284 I know you
@@ameliahaynes-standeven5284 let's not let a little thing like facts get in the way of their preconceived notions!
"Grab your birth control" I CHOKED
Same!!
Cruella at the end, "You were supposed to destroy the pro-lifers, not join them..."
Sounds similar to Star Wars Episode 3 when Obi Wan tells Anakin he was supposed to destroy the Sith not join them.
@@TonyXJR85 Disney should sue for plagiarism
Just putting this out there but you don’t wear clinic shoes home . It’s against OSHA , you have shoes that you change into . This is for all surgical procedures to include dental.
Planned Parenthood doesn’t CARE about OSHA! That’s how EVIL they are!!!! Lol.
I always thought they wore those shoe cover bootie things anyway. Like scrub booties. Did they run out?
@@aadams1006 they probably have by now 😆
That's what I was thinking too. Even if it wasnt an OSHA thing, eww, wouldn't that be common sense? Also, how did she have blood in her shoes if she'd never participated/seen an abortion until that pivotal one 🤔
@@rachaelf1746 most people do but it's not a requirement or anything
"The passcode is 2229... it spells 'baby.'"
Good God, have the creators of this film never heard of "subtlety"?
...really forgive me hear and I'm already embarrassed to ask but how is it 2229 spell baby? I'm really trying to see it but I can't.
@@pedromelendez4625 The idea is that the keypad is laid out like what you'd see on a phone. So...
2 = A ,B, or C
3 = D, E, or F
4 = G, H, or I
... and so on.
So, the first three letters that spell "baby" are located on 2 (which is why they dial it three times in that code), and the "Y" is on 9.
@@Spar10Leonidas another question is...is that a thing PP does? Do these ppl forget that PP do MORE than just hand out abortions?
@@jge8144 A lot of these people aren't in favor of a good number of the services that Planned Parenthood provides. They focus on abortions a lot, but conservatives tend to be total prudes when it comes to sex and sex education, so they're not happy about things like providing access to contraception.
@@Spar10Leonidas Yo, thanks for sparing some of your time to explain this, have a good one! Now makes sense. 😄👍
3:10 "It is a Pure Flix movie. But it's rated R?! Nooooo!!!"
*DECEPTION! DISGRACE!*
Evil as plain as the scar on his face!
@@emilymack1967 DECEPTION! (and outrage) DISGRACE! (for shame)
@@matthewballon7553 He asked for trouble the moment he came!
See ya later, alligator!
Now I can see the PP staff singing that to Abby as she is shunned. Thanks.
"Great, sick burn, but it's at the expense of, like, your movie."
-Kevin 2019 epic quote
"I would be interested in seeing some competent filmmakers make this movie" is the best assessment
This feels like a really bad disgruntled employee hit piece that tries to use the pro life/ pro choice debate as a justification.
Literally the exact criticism that was levied against the book.
I actually spit out my drink at the idea that planned parenthood is one of the most powerful organizations on the planet. Really planned parenthood? I can only suspend my disbelief so far....
I want to say something about the abortion scene that everyone's talking about: that is *not* how the procedure works! Like, at all. If they're using the surgical procedure, how come this girl is still awake and saying that it hurts? Because the patient either has to be sedated or given pain meds before the doctors do the job. It took me, like, five minutes to google that and this movie can't even be bothered to do its research because it doesn't suit its agenda.
Also, it's clear that the girl doesn't *want* an abortion in that scene, so why is she there? The doctor needs the patient's consent for the procedure to take place. They would never perform any procedure if the patient is crying and begging them to stop.
Oh yeah, and bedside manner isn't a thing, according to this movie.
That scene was probably meant to be propaganda rather then realistic. The makers obviously want abortion to be shown in as bad a light as possible, so they made that scene to accomplish that goal. And I'm guessing they didn't expect anyone to actually do research. Lying to make a point never works, especially when it is found out.
Exactly propaganda rather than realistic. Even during that scene, it looked like they were having a party in the OR with everyone and their mother in there panicking. That would never happen! That's not how any medical procedure is like whether it's an abortion or a bunionectomy
Actually, it is.
First off.. it's not an OR. Second, I've had heart surgery at 21 years old wherein I woke up halfway through, was in excruciating pain...I also had to pee so badly I thought my bladder would burst and they never put me back under. I was sobbing as they cut my wrist open and shoved a catheter the size of a straw into the artery!
The girl in the scene wanted to be there (apparently) but that doesn't mean she doesn't feel the pain or cry because of it.
I know this part isn't your comment... but most doctors/surgeons have zero bedside manner.
Just an aside, I'm a paramedic and I've worked in an ER with OR rotations for the last 20 years.
I personally HAVE read the testimony of women who had this exact experience in an abortion clinic. So not that it doesn't happen ever, (Planned Parenthood employees have been known to ignore the pleas of women who change their minds) but most likely didn't happen in this particular scenario. Feels contrived because too many different kinds of drama at once.
I'm pro-choice but I really appreciated this review by someone who may disagree with me (I have followed Kevin for awhile, so take that with a grain of salt. I'm biased). I also really appreciate Kevin's story-based method of evaluating the movie.
Same here. My take is I simply don’t have the right to tell other people what to do with their bodies
@sodapop81 Yeah, I agree. It’s something I’ve been on the fence about for a while, but I think I’m pro-choice at this point. It’s a tough issue, but regardless of if the fetus has personhood, no person has the right to another person’s organs. This is even the case if a parent puts the child in a compromising situation where they need an organ. We value bodily autonomy even in this extreme circumstance, so why should it be different before birth?
That said, I do get where pro-life people come from. Abortion isn’t pleasant, and a potential life is lost. I think that some pro-choice people want to say that pro-life people want to control women, but it’s more complicated than that. There really is a lot of stereotyping on both sides.
I agree, as well. I'm very much a believer in everyone making the choices that are right for them and not forcing one's beliefs on someone else. We have two children, but I'm married, we have a stable situation and we can provide for them. But not everyone has those things. Not everyone has a stable home life, financial situation, or even the health to have and raise a child. But...I still appreciate the POV of people who do believe differently from myself and are willing to cross the aisle for a rational discussion. Kevin's insight is always entertaining and interesting to listen to, and so I enjoy watching his videos even if I don't necessarily agree with his point of view. I think it's important to listen to those you don't agree with in order to find a way to work together. So thank you for your channel ^^
im pro-good stuff.
Eddie Brown Yeah, but what does that mean exactly? “Good” is a term that’s often used rather subjectively and has been the topic of debate amongst philosophers since the dawn of time.
Why did the "The reprimand still stands" scene look like the "the council does not grant you the rank of Jedi Master" scene?
"We don't grant you the rank of Clinic Director.."
"Give up, fetus! I have the high ground!"
As a Christian, and advocate for life-I appreciate this review. I wish Christian cinematic media wasn’t so terrible. This movie was made for the echo chamber, and I doubt it will change many hearts and minds.
There were moments that were just so poorly thought out, I couldn’t believe they made it to the final cut. One moment in particular was the hurricane scene and when the song overcomer came on...I was literally dying inside.
Please Christian media..do better
Thank you for the encouragement.
Say Goodnight Kevin anytime, I’m going to subscribe. Your videos are very entertaining 😁
My main beef with this movie is that it only villifies false perceptions that some pro-choicers have about pro-lifers, making pro-life people like us look like idiots. 😳
"It seems like there must have been something else. And if the real Abby Johnson's social media presence is any indicator, I bet she was a little less timid than the movie wants her to believe."
Okay, that killed me. Having known Abby both on person and online for a decade...yeah. A friend of mine who knew her before her "conversion" told me she's always been pretty combative, soooo....
She is never happy to hear someone with a different opinion. She blocked me on Twitter back in late 2019 after I called her out for being homophobic 😂😂
@@allydef37 I've known other people who had similar experiences with her, so I believe it.
“the message of the gospel isn’t as important as the message of pro life” 💀
Laughed most at that line
Aubri Rambles AMEN!!
One of the biggest problems with the abortion scene is that the filmmakers think that it will get left-wingers to change their minds because of how "shocking and gross" it is, but it won't because progressives are relatively low on disgust sensitivity while social conservatives and authoritarians are unusually high.
www.businessinsider.com/liberals-and-conservatives-process-disgust-and-empathy-differently-2018-1
www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/03/the-yuck-factor/580465/
journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0025552
www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/02699931.2019.1627292
journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1948550611429024
www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(14)01213-5?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS0960982214012135%3Fshowall%3Dtrue
psycnet.apa.org/record/2017-41186-006
Well, they tie together. Justice is a part of the gospel
The amount of complete BS in the scenes that are supposedly clinic related is staggering. Scene where she sees the termination on the ultrasound monitor, she is neither scrubbed in, gowned up, or masked, the nurse is also not masked - being a surgical procedure they should be maintaining a sterile field, not having some assistant wandering in with no preparation or having a nurse leaning over a patient without a mask on. The chemical abortion scene, patients are warned (according to folks I have spoken to in the US who have worked at PP) about the risks of complications regarding heavy blooding, vomiting, severe pain, etc, and instructed to seek medical care if that happens (not just ''Oh hey here's your pills, catch you later, nope you absolutely don't need any other instructions or medical advice besides that''). The haemorrhage scene, again why the effity eff are people breaking a sterile field by piling into a room where a surgical procedure is taking place without having scrubbed in and then gloved, gowned and masked up, not to mention Abby just grabs some gauze and tries to stem bleeding by presumably placing her un-scrubbed, ungloved hands near (or into) the patients vagina (yeah cause that''s not a massive infection risk at all), all while the Doctor doesn't explain anything to anyone, doesn't request fluids to be started, doesn't ask for medications to be drawn up to help stop the bleeding, or any of the other procedures that are used to help stop haemorrhaging in this situation, oh and he allows his surgical field to be compromised and let's a group of stereotypically hysterical women just start flapping all over the place. Yeah I don't think I actually read anything in the bible that says "Go ahead and lie if it suits your agenda'.
Yes to ALL you’ve said here
I’m only at the part where she gets pulled into the procedural room and her hair is down and she isn’t wearing any PPE. Also, shouldn’t they have given the patient some type of anesthesia?
I had suspicion that the medical scenes weren’t going to be accurate, but thanks for the heads up/warning!
Check out checkmyclinic.org. All drawn from State inspection reports.
Claire Eyles I'm not sure if those scenes are the result of an astounding lack of research, or intentionally made to make PP look even worse then the target audience all ready thinks it is. Either way makes the scenes the train wrecks they are.
The “Go ahead and lie if it suits your agenda” part is in the back somewhere. In the New NIV. Like the back back. Back. Backity back...
Beginning of the Movie: "I was naiive"
Rest of Movie: "The evidence suggests otherwise"
Oh most definitely. The movie clearly shows she was anything but naive. Heck, the scene about the abortions during the hurricane makes her look worse then her boss. At least Cruella didn't want anyone coming to the clinic for safety reasons but Abby insisted. If this movie was meant to make her look like a hero it failed.
Yes, this is exactly the problem I have with her entire narrative.
The rest of the movie has determined that's a lie...
I sort of get the impression that she personally has a vendetta against this organization and uses people’s personal beliefs and politics to settle her beef, so to speak. But also the movie is very weak, just as a movie.
yeah....because most of her story is outright lies, like the defining moment never happened. She was never in any awy involved in a abortion as she wouldn't be allowed anywhere near it, she wasn't qualified to be there.
What organization are you referring to? Planned Parenthood?
@@chrisobrien6254 No, McDonald’s.
Are you talking about Abby Johnson? Yeah I think she does have a personal vendetta against Planned Parenthood perhaps because they kill over 200,000 people annually
@@chrisobrien6254 or perhaps because Planned Parenthood almost fired her.
So far the best "pro life" movie is Juno.
And it had almost the same budget.
@@saygoodnightkevin oh really?! Wow!
P.S did u do alot of research on this movie? Did even some of this stuff happen by Abby's perspective?
I'd say the best is Michael Bay's The Island.
Popp Culture Wait...why? I didn’t see it, but I read the premise a little. Was it even about pregnancy?
@@thefirstbourne149 lol yeah, it's about a teenage girl who gets pregnant and gives her kid to adoption.
It mostly works out, but it shows the problem the girl faces.
Kevin’s self-awareness makes me laugh all the time 😂
That voice over is real echo-y, not great quality. It's sad when Kevin's audio quality is better than the movie's.
Yup
Seriously! That was the first thing I noticed. Did they not listen to it? It's voiceover, it's not like you're blowing up a building, just do another take!
Pure Flix said "we're so faith based we'll even play a contemporary Christian song during an abortion montage even while believing abortion to be murder" 😂
Also I loved the Professor Radisson reference.
They tried to get music from The Fray, Cyndi Lauper, and One Direction, but the artists wanted nothing to do with them.
Remember: Isaac Slade, the leaf singer of the Fray, IS Christian!
Wait why isn't your channel bigger and why haven't I heard of you until very recently
I've been a fan of him for 2 years and had to learn about him through a friend by word of mouth. Kevin's channel is smuggled in the extremely conservative branch of Christianity that thinks you can't criticize Christian media. 😂
Niche audience and non-consistent uploads
But I agree, his channel deserves more views
@@Seethi_C He uploads consistently... it's roughly on a biweekly basis. These reviews take time to construct.
Well, I´m an atheist...but I respect his integrety and his honesty. Calling out bad movies shoudl have to do nothing with religion ;-)
Because he's real that's what I love 😍
Catholic here - That confession joke was pretty funny
Haha.
I never told my mom that my husband and I were trying for a baby because her and I aren’t close. Doesn’t mean my daughter was a bad choice, she’s actually one of my best.
The quotes like "beam me up Scotty" and "we can take care of that for you" made more sense in the book because they came off as more light hearted and was supposed to show how detached everyone was from the work they did. Like how morticians can be desensitized about death and have a morbid sense of humor.
Yeah. My dad was a paramedic and he was always that way too. But I don’t see it as an “bad” thing. It’s just the cost of working in the medical industry and coping with the job.
@@saygoodnightkevin yeah I don't see it as a bad thing either. I didn't feel like the book vilified planned parenthood workers the way the movie did.
I'm assuming the latter quote, in the context of the book, wasn't said to the patient we saw in the beginning?
I hate Mandisa's music already, but the fact it's in the movie is disgusting. The fact that they felt like they needed to put a Christian song over a PP montage is sickening and gross. And yes, it is leaps and bounds worse than the Simpsons joke.
While I like Mandisa's music, I am shocked that they used her beautiful song over said montage.
They couldn't get the rights to a lot of secular songs they wanted to use, my guess is that song was thrown in at the last second. That said, it IS jarring and super inappropriate for the moment.
@@synthmass That's true
This movie is even more sad after listening to the Podcast episode with Ashley Bratcher...the poor woman hates voiceover and NEARLY EVERY NARRATIVE SHIFT IN THE FILM IS IN VOICEOVER. In the podcast episode, I thought Ashley seemed really authentic, funny, and easygoing. Her authenticity really brought to my attention that, unlike the characters in these movies, the people behind these films can be fascinating and multi-dimensional, and they don't necessarily like everything about stereotypical Christian media, either. Thanks, Kevin, for complicating the narrative in really important ways.
Comparing abortion to fries and soda is something I never expected to hear. Not even on the list.
Not even on the dollar menu. Lol
The movie was even worse than I expected, which means...this video was even better than I expected.
Why do Christin films seem more fictional than. Other films?
What's fictional about it?
@@nordicwarrior5014 here is one thing that is fiction and all Christian movies the Christian don't always win. See the reality is this. If you are a Christian this world ain't your home you just passing through. In reality it's not so easy to convince someone about Christ.
18:18 “I like to imagine that the film ‘Princess Cut’ happened in those six months. You can do it, too. Use your imagination.”
Thanks a lot, Kevin. I don’t feel so well now... 🤦♀️😂
My best friends be all like “you have to watch this movie, it’s the best movie ever!” I ACTUALLY SAID, “eh, I’ll see if I want to watch it after the SGK review comes out” 😆
I think its dangerous to get the mindset of "no we shouldn't question this. It's too important" This is coming from someone who agrees with the message
Damn son, it didn't take Pure Flix long to go back to mustache twirling cartoonish villains!
Ceris Beech actually the film does a really good job humanizing those who work in the abortion industry.
@@Quincy_Morris Hahaha, you have a very nice sarcastic streak, my dood.
Don't worry man you have taught me that reviews are not only about the good message but about how good the quality, story telling and enjoyble the movie is. So another review well done.
The one-sided confirmation bias is pretty nasty in these films, which is why it bothers me so much that my parents keep enjoying them. I have a hard time believing trained professionals would treat their patients like trash all the time, too. :/ And Abby for sure is a very inconsistent character in the film.
But for both Pro-lifers and Pro-choicers, many don't WANT to believe the opposing group are normal people with unique problems, motivations, and thoughts. It's so much easier to hate a group if "all" of them are evil, ignorant, and cruel, right? I'm Pro-life myself, but understand and sympathize for several of the reasons some people are Pro-choice. Many people who are desperate to have an abortion are already in rough spots, and if they're from disadvantaged communities, have a horrible home life, and the father completely escapes responsibility, it's a lose-lose. Being from disadvantaged communities often brings with it the lack of resources, including the lack of being effectively taught safe sex. I don't agree with having women have the right to choose to abort no matter the circumstance (especially when the kid is just an "inconvenience" and the person KNOWS how safe sex works), and the argument about what stage is "viable" and everything is a different argument. I absolutely believe those feeling the need for an abortion deserve respect and understanding, not just shaming and condemning. There's a good chance they're feeling under the gun already and feel this is their last resort.
Pro-lifer and Christian use of pure shock value doesn't help an already terrified girl or woman feel any more secure or safe in their difficult situation. As you mentioned, Kevin, prayer really IS a powerful tool, and I think trying to provide more resources to women considering abortions, done in a LOVING, respectful way would do so much more for pro-life than what many do today. Promoting safe-sex practices and education is just as important in the churches as it is in schools, because church kids who don't know anything other than "just don't" will have no idea what to do next if they DO end up with pregnancies -not to mention the sometimes cruel reactions from other church and family members.
Thank you for bringing up the "dirty secrets" of Planned Parenthood, too, Kevin. It's important that people remember that Planned Parenthood DOES provide more women's health services than just abortions, but it's also important that people know about the sketchy parts of the organization.
Thanks again for another thoughtful and hilarious commentary, Kevin! Amazing editing, as always!
I see that you turned up the blue tint, Kevin! Your eyes are burning through the screen! 👀Looks cool with the dark blue Marvel shirt. :)
Wait... But I'm pro-choice... and we're on the internet. I thought we were supposed scream and yell and insult each other unproductively. Stop being so reasonable, it's freaking me out!
In all seriousness it's nice to see someone on the other side that actually seems to care about how hard of a decision it is for some women and the myriad of reasons that might lead them to make the choice. The majority of the pro-lifers I encounter don't really seem to care about the women involved. Some even seem to have active disdain for them. I imagine you encounter a host of fairly vile people as well. Hurray for the anonymity of the internet bringing out the worst in people.
Regardless I think you and I are mostly in agreement. I'm all for reducing the number of abortions by giving women more options on preventing pregnancy through safe sex and education as well as improving general living conditions and resources so it's easier to choose to be a mother if she ends up with an unplanned pregnancy. I'd be ecstatic if the only abortions that ever occurred were medically necessary.
I have been debating my own personal stance on abortion and what you wrote really resonated with me. The issue really isn't as black and white as many believe. I think I'm pro-life but agree that it depends on the circumstance and all women should be treated with respect even if the choose to abort their babies. Jesus didn't die so we could make movies that spread hate and anger.
@@ashleytheblindvisionary907 i know someone who knows a lot of women who were in 2 categories of being in predicaments involving a baby: 1) raped or 2) medical troubles. At the end, God ended up either prevenred the women from getting sick or He took the baby away, jJust thought I share that. ❤ Cinema Snob's review on this mocie had a scene where Abby got "owned" by one of the Coalition of Life that pretty much abortion is equavalent to slavery and the Holocaust and they need to prorest or something like that. I am pro-life and African-American and I say that is somewhat Apples-in-Oranges. No government in the freaking USA is forcing women, by law, to have an abortion. Being black in segregation, whether u didn't ride the bus or sat in the white only area to change the law, u still got the snot beaten out of you. You can offer women alternative info, but once they refuse, unless God is telling u to proceed, leave the woman alone. And don't act like that woman who was screaming "Oh lord jesus!" I think I can c why her daughter was nonchalant about the abortion. Mom seems to not listen to what her kid is saying.
Dani-Claw you having trouble believing something that is true is your problem not reality’s problem.
In general, I view the Pure Flix films as an opportunity for Christians to get together and pat each other on the back when they want a feel good story. There's always a "gotcha" moment in the movies, but in reality no one is going to changed by watching this film or any of the others. The people that "need" these films aren't going to watch them. They are fluff pieces designed to get a positive reaction out of the Beth Moore Bible study crowd and to get negative reactions from the secular critics. You can tell that Pure Flix believes they are making a bigger impact because of the aforementioned "gotcha" moments that are always unceremoniously thrown in, but they don't approach these issues in a realistic way.
I also agree that churches need to be better about sexual education. The damaging chastity talks and the idea that I would be "less worthy" if I wasn't a virgin had detrimental effects on me when I did make a mistake with a man who said he loved me. For years I didn't feel worthy. I'm happily married now to an amazing man. God can make all things whole and there's nothing I can do to prevent that. Unfortunately, I had to come to that conclusion outside of the church. They can certainly be better.
The blood on the shoes scene was so ridiculous. My mother is a cardiac critical care nurse, and when I was little I would see her coming home with blood splatter on her scrubs all the time. Just because something looks gross, doesn't mean it's immoral.
Methodist here. I bounce back and forth between the legality of abortion, but I understand why they happen, which incensed me when the good husband Christian character had to go out of his way to say that he thinks that "all abortion is bad," implying that medically-necessary abortions needed to keep the mother alive or people trying to rid themselves of rape babies so they don't have to live through that trauma again are bad because it's the Bad Medical Procedure popularized by a person who considered eugenics as one of those cool things to do (before quickly realizing with the rest of the intelligentsia in the early '30s that eugenics is really popular with a real jerk with a funny mustache over in Germany). I've heard uber-leftist arguments against abortion - we need better child-care services more than anything - and I've heard conservative/right-libertarian arguments for abortion - freedom of choice, so why not? - so it's not the clean-cut good vs. evil narrative Unplanned churns out.
Unplanned is a despicable film because they are intentionally doing this just to stoke anger. It's not only a propaganda piece for Coalition for Life - which is why they go out of their way to say that they're the good guys - but it's also a bit of a fluff piece to make Abby Johnson not as morally grey as she was IRL. I feel like the filmmakers believe that morally-complex characters aren't relatable when, in fact, I can't relate to pure bastions of good and evil. I see myself, for better or for worse, in complex characters like Luke Skywalker (both original and sequel trilogies), Ray Peterson (from the funny Tom Hanks film about the neighbors who kill people), Tracy Flick, and that guy who keeps inserting all those Beta tapes into his chest from Videodrome - yes, they range the gamut from somewhat good to somewhat evil, but we all those traits. I cannot relate to Abby since she's so damned perfect and yet somehow she's also truly naive.
The heartrending scenes of Abby and those people on the other side of the gate crying over the abortions are sad, but they're ultimately manipulative. Granted that film is by design a manipulative medium, but those scenes just feel like they're arguments from emotion - that "look at what abortion does to a person" is something I haven't heard. Like, I love "Brick" by Ben Folds Five and that's a song about how devastating an abortion can be. Same with "The Freshmen" by The Verve Pipe. But the difference between the crop of '90s alternative rock songs about abortion and Unplanned is that "Brick" and "The Freshmen" don't try to argue against the procedure. They just acknowledge that, yes, it's a pain to go through. As is any medical procedure. A flu shot isn't totally painless. But people rise from pain to be better people - to be in better situations, to know better, to make better decisions, to understand that there's pain to everything. Unplanned argues that abortion is a special kind of pain.
Also, I thought they disproved the "selling baby parts" thing . There's paying for shipping costs since shipping biological materials in special containers for laboratories to use for vaccine and treatment research is kinda expensive. What James O'Keefe was trying to prove was that they were selling baby parts on the black market for top dollar when he just took people talking about shipping and handling costs out of context. I can say that Time-Life is selling illegal songs on the black market by cutting out all the talk about how they're compilations of songs that cost a pretty penny to license and that they have to manufacture the CDs, cassettes, and LPs those songs come on, but that doesn't make my point valid. If anything, it makes me look like I came into the thing with my mind all set.
I came into Unplanned, hoping to be swayed. I'm glad abortion rates are decreasing, but I'm saddened that there's no expanded services for child care or extended maternity and paternity leave. But I came out realizing that Coalition for Life probably wouldn't want more taxes to go towards those services - something something "that'll drive the price of your hamburgers to like $10 at Wendy's."
Bless you. I agree with all of this. (Except that I'm a pro-lifer 100%, but that doesn't mean you don't make good points.)
America would make an argument that trading hamburgers for safe and affordable medical care is a bad deal.
I feel like if want the abortion rates to decrease even more we need to make it easier and safer for contraception, which ironically is one of the things PlannedParenthood does most. I also agree that better childcare and maternity and paternity leave is definite help. No one really wants an abortion and no one wants to do it, but in some situations (as you said- life threatening or rape trauma), people do what they need to do, and I hate the idea that most do it casually. Maybe some do, but I bet at minimum 99% don't
@@sockruhtease most people I've talked to that have had abortions don't do it casually. Unless if you're talking about taking morning-after pills/birth control pills, but even then, some people take those to regulate period flow
@@sockruhtease I know a woman whose breast cancer was detected early through Planned Parenthood screenings. There is so much more that they do for women in low income communities, including prenatal checkups, exams, screenings, etc, that women living in poverty could never afford otherwise. It's always frustrating when this part of PP is completely ignored because it has a huge impact on these communities. And I agree...it would be a rare woman who can casually have an abortion without a second thought. Most want the babies but cannot have them for many reasons, and adoption is not always an option when it comes to someone's health.
This film wasn't banned in Canada, all Canadian distributors boycotted it which meant it couldn't get a run (it eventually did when a pastor pulled some strings IIRK). The whole ban thing was a PureFlix stunt to get sympathy.
I've been thinking about doing a video about this very thing. Because you're right (obviously, my intro was sarcastic). I get so tired of people using the word "Censorship" incorrectly. Mainly because the word HAS meaning, and if these people are going to get mad about a baker being forced to bake a cake, then they shouldn't force a theater to play their movie. I just don't know how much more time I want to spend talking about this movie. lol.
@@saygoodnightkevin That's fair! I'd appreciate a video on it because there is a lot of misinformation about it up here in the great white north!
Using "Overcomer" in an abortion montage is inappropriate in more ways than one, if you get my drift.
OH, I get it? ;-)
I've been checking obsessively for this review to make sure I get to see it before scores of butthurt pro lifers find a reason to get it taken down by TH-cam bc they think a pro life movie is above reproach or being satirized simply by virtue of being pro-life. I'm 100% pro- life, and I still approve Kevin's message lol.
As a Canadian, I find it kind of funny that our rating boards gave this movie a PG rating (except Ontario & New Brunswick, where it got 14A), but ended up causing such a ruckus that all the major distributors and cinema chains never gave it a wide release.
Crazy! Is Canadian PG equivalent to USA PG?
@@thegnome73 Yes, in theory. But the Canadian rating system is more lenient toward certain subjects than the American system, but less lenient toward others.
31:53; 35:59 Cruella De Vil is such an over the top, strawman villain that I think she's my favorite character. She's hilarious.
"Grab your birth control..."
Don't you mean "your NFP chart"?
This movie is the epitome of the strawman "pro-choice is pro-abortion" argument. Every pro-choicer is either evil or naive to the point of farce and all the pro-lifers are just completely wonderful, perfect angels except for the explicitly bad ones "whomst we, the good people, are not like". Absolutely disgusting.
And how much they hate planned parenthood even though they don’t only deal with abortion
@@ellenevans1884 ....they dont like anything that PP does
@@edwardtjbrown1979 If for some reason you want to see pictures of dead babies just go on Twitter and say you like Planned Parenthood. Not abortion, just PP in general. Because the morally superior people seem to think that's okay.
@brandon roberts Whats the difference between pro choice and pro abortion?
@@Alex_Barbosa Pro choice means that you think being pregnant should not be forced on anyone, no matter the circumstances. A women should be able to choose to get pregnant, continue an accidental pregnancy, or choose to not continue the pregnancy if she doesn't want to be a parent or risk her health to carry a baby to term. You can be pro choice and choose for yourself to abort or not to abort (that was the choice I made, and my son is better off because I chose him and he wasn't forced on me).
Pro abortion is believing that abortion is the only way, and everyone should get an abortion.
It's like on the other side of the debate where pro life means you value the born children and adults as well as the unborn. You can be pro choice and pro life at the same time, they are not necessarily mutually exclusive, although far too many have tried to co-opt it and make it just a different term for anti abortion.
Anti abortion means that you believe people should be forced to carry pregnancy to term no matter the cost to them or the future child. The life of the unborn trumps the life of the born every time.
Pro abortion and anti abortion are absolutes. Pro choice is nuanced and can include pro life.
I think the example of Abby being so great at her job, but so naive at the same time is a good parallel for the makers of this movie. How can they be so ‘good’ at manipulating the facts, emotions, and characters of the film, yet be so naive as to what they are doing? Surely this couldn’t have been an “oopsie” considering the conspiracy theories and major defenses that went into action before this movie was even released.
Thanks for the review! I think you got yourself a Patreon supporter. :)
cruella is underlit, like you can't get more evil than that.
27:00 The cut after “...most people think about the terrorist attacks in NY, which is really weird because that didn’t happen to me...” 💀
"Your baby has a heart, and she loves u with it." how on earth did that woman know her baby is a girl...?
Special Christian Powers.
@@lonewolfgamingplus379 Or eavesdropping in Jesus Name.
Also there's this psychological cliché (that is now frowned upon in most creative circles) where harm is supposedly worse if it's done to a girl 🤔 😔 in short: It's an emotional manipulation technique. Or 🕊💥Special Christian Powers!💥🕊
@Katelyn Jack Either way, that just came off as the woman may have stalked that girl and found out like that.
Love the show, Kevin! However, Canada didn’t ban the movie. Some theatre chains refused to screen it but ultimately Cineplex ended up screening the movie at various locations. Not sure the movie did that well but ultimately I think it was to promote free speech and for people to make the decision whether to support the movie or not.
Thank you for cutting the blood out of that scene
I like that you agree Christian movies should have good quality
Honestly... just... how does PureFlix keep getting this much hype on movies that don't deserve it at all? I'm just in shock about how bad it all is, except for those few scenes that seem mostly well acted, but even then... the script is so bad? It's like it's all written by someone who had no idea how it worked and just wanted to use their own ideas and villains to push a point. Hard to believe it's based on a real story and that the real woman didn't say 'no, this is absolute trash'. Yikes. Always appreciate you watching these bad movies for hours on end to amuse and entertain us.
It's like a car crash. You know it's horrible but you can't keep your eyes off it.
But Kevin, did the movie really deserve being Rated R? Weren't they just being persecuted?
Probably. Lol.
I'll say PG-13. If they showed breasts and vagina than I'll say X-rated R 😂😂😂😂
The rating system is really screwed up and largely serves just to censor artists. If it were up to me, we’d just throw it out entirely, but I know most people would think that’s extreme.
Despite that, I think rating the movie R was consistent enough with how other movies are rated. I mean, there was a lot of blood, for sure. If you really want to see persecution, research how homosexual sex scenes are rated compared to heterosexual ones or how female orgasms are rated compared to male ones.
@@BSR-zy2so The rating system is indeed an inconsistent, arbitrary mess, but it's not censorship. All an R-rating means is that a person under 17 must be accompanied by an adult to see the movie. The MPAA isn't preventing adults from seeing movies nor is it forcing filmmakers to censor. If a filmmaker chooses to self-sensor in order to get the more marketable PG-13 rating, then that means he/she is more interested in the commercial factor than the art. The fact each rating designation has become associated with a certain type of film is a by-product of cultural perception, not the fault of the rating system. Movies with more extreme content that might get slapped with an NC-17 or go unrated, typically, by their nature and content, are going to have a niche audience to begin with.
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The problem is that it’s difficult to get funding for movies that are R or NC-17. Most theaters also won’t play NC-17 movies or movies that aren’t rated by MPAA. I live in the biggest city in my state, and I had to drive three hours to go see a particular NC-17 movie. The major retailers won’t sell NC-17 movies and unrated movies, so if you want to make any money from your movie, you almost have to make the changes that the MPAA wants you to, since they have the power to severely limit your audience. This is too much power for one anonymous, private committee to have. The government should, for the sake of fairness, require the MPAA to disclose its reviewers and process and, in my opinion, compel them to offer descriptions rather than flat-out ratings. Really, I am okay with dismantling the rating system altogether, but I’ll compromise.
Indirect quote: "I'm being sued by several Christian film wigs... Also here's my Patreon!"
I almost stopped the video to donate right there. Seriously considering it XD Thanks for shedding light on how bad this stuff really is. Christians follow a creative God. They can do better.
I'm really glad I wasn't drinking water when you said "Grab your birth control"
Cruella must be the first person on earth to ever find out someone is pregnant and not say 'Congratulations'.
It's Old Fashioned that this movie is Unplanned, I Can Only Imagine that this movie could've been shown in my War Room while I'm Facing The Giants with being Courageous.
Nice going October Baby! I couldn't Silence my way out of that. You clearly had a Passion to make that comment! :)
@@zacharysiple629 I'm Voiceless by this comment, I Am Not Ashamed that I am Overcomer of doing this comment :)
Kevin McCreary has the best teeth in the game.
“i threw up, right here, on the floor”
I don't know if you're pro-life or pro choice, but this is a good review.
I'm assuming Pro-Life, since he was always saying babies, and not fetuses. But I don't wanna put words in his mouth.
EarthboundX I know I wouldn’t abort a baby, but I don’t want to stand for either side of the cause. Maybe I am afraid of what other people would say, but both sides are only have 50/50 of a good and bad thing. Pro-life means “Women shouldn’t have gotten pregnant, and you’re terrible, sweetheart...”, and Pro-Choice means, “Yeah, sure, a baby dies, but at least we can say, ‘Good Grief’.” Probably should have said it the other way around, but point being, the good stuff that I didn’t mention doesn’t really balance out the bad. As a dude, it always weighs down on my conscience no matter which cause I’m for. I just have to hope that girls can find peace no matter what weighs down on-’em.
@@thefirstbourne149 Not sure it's that simple.
EarthboundX Hence why I’m not part of that cause...it’s not a hard choice to make, it’s a choice where both feel unwise and immoral for both parties.
@@thefirstbourne149 It's something I just don't like in general, people are just so fast to label everyone the same. Not just in this topic, but everything. People are massively different individuals with different needs and goals. But I guess it's just easier to label and shuffle away people you don't like to "this group" and "that group".
It's the main reason I hate politics.
Me: My friend just tried to sell me Amway, I’m tired but I wonder what this Unplanned movie is going to be about?
Kevin: Like an old friend trying to sell you Amway.
Me: 😏
As a Christian who is also pro-choice, this movie came across as nothing except propaganda for the Coalition for Life-as a way of rewriting their reputation as being the protesters who yell at women who go to PP to use their services. I have no intention of watching it. But knowing that it’s still a bad movie, on top of spreading misinformation? That is a bit satisfying.
Hey! I am a Christian too! I am pro-life and I don't like the way they make people who r pro-choice to be. I am curious to know why you r pro choice just to know. I won't be judgmental, promise!
@@jge8144 I don't think the moral worth of a fetus outweighs the bodily autonomy of a pregnant person until the fetus is actually viable outside the womb.
@@rebecca5257 thanks for sharing! I'm an aspiring fiction writer and want to take on this subject while being respectful on both sides. I believe art is supposed to persuade not manipulate people into viewpoints, evev if it is salvation. Thanks again for sharing.
Rebecca yea this movie is one big target on Planned Parenthood and some fluffy promo for Coalition for Life
Travis Houze Notice how the movie goes out of its way to name drop Coalition for Life and then have one of its “members” distance herself from the people yelling hateful things to the women going to/working at the clinic as if CfL doesn’t have a history of being aggressive and even violent towards PP and people who use their services. 🙄
As a Christian who is against abortion, I had other reasons why I wasn't interested in this movie, but after seeing this review and more footage of the movie, it just in general doesn't look like a good movie...granted I'm only seeing parts of it. Even more not going to see it. But hey thanks for the entertaining review. At least there's that
I remember this clinic around Hurricane Ike. I was there and it didn't look like a Walmart after rush hour. Also, many of "abortions" are spontaneous abortions (aka a miscarriage) where the fetus died without intent and the "corpse" (for lack of better word) needs to be medically remove as it can harm or even kill the woman carrying. I'd apologize for the unnecessary graphic detail in this comment, but the movie didn't apologize for its graphic detail, soooo...
"At least you're not Alyssa Milano" - I did a literal spit-take.
IKR I WAS DRINKING TEA 😂
I lost it at the “fries and soda”, too.
The best argument against pro-life I've heard was actually by a priest. He pointed out the amorphousness and potential of the unborn to be anything you like (basically adorable, God-fearing white kids that are perfectly healthy) are a lot easier to support, like, and have compassion for than real world people and children who may be a burden on the system. No one's talking about how great it is for illegal immigrant children to be born so deformed they'll need Medicaid in order to have a machine breathe for them for the rest of their life. And I know these kids exist because my mom was a pediatric home health nurse and she worked largely taking care of said kids in foster care (as in, the child was born and when its massive health problems were too serious to handle the parents noped out of there.) If she worked for parents, they were almost always single mothers, who have an economic disadvantage and ... well ... the pro-lifers don't talk about that either.
If the pro-life argument weren't so disingenuous, I think I might be more willing to listen to its arguments. But obviously this movie and basic pro-life arguments don't leave room for very real problems such as child abuse/rape/sex slavery, hunger and poverty, disability, parental fitness, defects either genetic or drug-induced, and most importantly, the absolutely cash-starved systems of foster care, Medicaid, and welfare that the right can't cut fast enough. Apparently it's like, have the kid but don't be a burden, because fuck you we don't want to take care of your AHEM precious and lovely child blessed by God.
Droemar exactly, all the remedies that are preached by pro-lifers are very difficult, expensive and impractical to implement and just ignore the basic realities of life for so many people. And instead of trying to address these issues e.g. sex education, contraceptives and the foster care system their only concern is stopping abortions right now without any of the provisions necessary to help women in difficult situations.
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I think the movie's most valuable contribution to the argument is its portrayal of the different flavors on Pro-Lifers. Any one who has been to a March for Life has seen that there is a spectrum on kindness and understanding. All the archetypes in this movie are represented there.
As someone who attended a March For Life protest as a high school field trip (Christian school btw), I can confirm. Most folks I saw were just holding up signs minding their own business while others were outright making a ruckus and harassing others. It’s interesting this movie kinda reflects that variance in the prolife protester crowd.
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i hate these types of movies that pretend that they’re ‘shining a light into the darkness’ and pretending to be super brave or whatever, but really they’re just telling all of the people on “their side” that, like Kevin said, “here are all of the bad people and all the reasons to hate them.” no one ever tries to actually make a film to show people both “sides” of an issue with lots of grey areas, and no one tries to make anyone come together or understand each other. pretty sad.
also it’s pretty hilarious that they never realise how annoying voice over is.
Im already 5 minutes in and I JUST notice your video is 42 minutes long... God bless you Kevin (unless, the editor) for taking so much time editing. 🙏
So because a better film like God's Not Dead A Light in Darkness failed it seems like they're just going right back to the strawman propaganda tactic.
It's sad. According to wiki, a lot of religious groups felt it was cash grab without a message. I mean, that hurts! I will admit, the second act got tedious but at least I could relate to the protagonist and the supportive characters! I agree with one of Kevin's theories as to why it happened: Christians were saving their money to c I Can Only Imagine and Paul. Funny enough, I saw GND3 over the above mentioned just to test out what I learned about the first two via reviews.😂
Charlieman film literally just states things that happened. Down to the over the top quotes. The more over the top the quote the more likely it’s a real actual quote.
@@jge8144 I Can Only Imagine was amazing
@@ShainaCilimberg Indeed! And it was nominated for Family Picture for People's Choice awards! Wgen was the last time a Christian movie was nominated for a secular award? Maybe, like the Prince of Egypt, a Christian movie will be nominated for an Oscar
Ah, yes. Confirmation Bias: the Movie.
I’m judging myself for getting The Lonely Island reference 😂
I missed these reviews kevin!! Its good to have you back. Would love an update video on what's been going on and where you've been!
I do realized that this is a Christian-Movie-Centric YT channel, but one of the things I wish was mentioned in this video is how risky it is to work at an abortion clinic or even visiting a clinic to have one. First of all, clinics like Planned Parenthood does its best to make sure that all of its patients and staff are safe within the clinic premises, since most real protestors would do or say anything to get their message across. And sometimes, it's more than just harassing the patients and staff (like that "Keep-your-legs-closed" guy) and showing signs and handing out flyers with graphic images to children.
They would go to extreme measures as well. I've heard stories that some people would use their phones to get license plate numbers so that they could track down and stalk patients and staff. In some cases, the doctors and nurses working there would get assaulted and even murdered. In fact, IIRC, the murder of Dr. George Tiller was mentioned in the movie, but even then, it's portrayed in a "we're-not-like-THOSE-Christians" kind-of way. (I think The Cinema Snob mentioned all of this in his review of the movie). That kind of stuff reminds me that people out there believe that clinics like PP are just abortion factories, when they do offer different services, like HIV/AIDS testing. This issue also goes into much deeper territory that I rather not get into here.
Another thing: movies like Unplanned, Voiceless, and The Life Zone barely add anything to the abortion discussion. In fact, it just reinforces pro-life talking points in a often disgusting and insensitive manner. There are documentaries like "The Last Clinic" and "Jackson" (I believe it's called "Jackson." I saw it on Showtime.) that offer a much more nuanced discussion on abortion than any of these movies ever will.
These are some great points! thanks for sharing. You're right too about that last point. I hoped to have an interesting movie that gave some perspective on the "pro-life" side of the argument. But it seems to rally people who already agree, without giving a reason outside of emotional anecdotes.
@@saygoodnightkevin Exactly. That's how movies like this earn their audience (and their money). It appeals to (and even empathizes with) their viewpoints, and it doesn't do anything to challenge them with little (if any) substantial evidence. Movies like this are either shameless about its message and intent, or it adds limited insight and often misinterprets opposing arguments, which is even worse. Not to mention, Abby Johnson's story seems shady from the jump, with various people contradicting details of her story. It's a mess.
ooh hoo hoo this was even better than i expected
Are you sure this is supposed to be a true story? It's not even a coherent story.
Well, movies like Love Actually and Pulp Fiction are not told in order. Granted, they're fiction movies, but you don't need your true story plot to be in ABC order to be effective.
Zachary Siple I don’t think that’s why it’s confusing. I think it’s told out of order because if it was told it order, it would be obvious how much of it doesn’t make sense. I am not saying it’s a lie. But I do think Abby can be very hard headed and adamant and her memory quite often seems to fit her bias.
@@saygoodnightkevin Okay, you do have a point there. Maybe you could interview Abby on your podcast and get input on that.
Zachary Siple even if it was told in order it would still would not be a competent and coherent film
The book is much more coherent. The problem with the movie is not that it is non-linear, it’s that they did non-linear (and characterizations, and dialogue, and far too many other things) really badly.
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That makes...no sense. Autism doesn't mean stupidity.
Other than that, funny stuff!
Thanks. I’ve had a few people fill me in on that. I’ll keep it in mind in the future. :-)
I'm going ahead and trimming that part out. I feel bad about it now. TH-cam says it will be updated in a few hours. :-)
@@saygoodnightkevin Thank you for that. My son is on the spectrum and he's a very intelligent child but has issues socializing with the other children. I hear 'autistic' being used more and more often as a slur, which makes me sad. Thank you for taking the time to correct your mistake ^^
It's so refreshing to see that white background again
This was a really good review touching on a controversial movie!
Why were they playing the "Overcomer" song during the abortion montage??? That's very backwards, was it opposite day on the set?
Well, Just finished my bingewatch of all your movienight videos! Started early this week and ended friday, really love your content!
Wow, thanks!
As someone who has had an abortion this movie is absolute shit and gets a lot of things wrong
Adding Homer Simpson makes this tragic story a little more funnier. :P
As always Kevin. Good job.
Really enjoy your sincere work and critique.
This is 100% how I felt when seeing it in theaters.
“From the writers of Gods not dead”
This is apparently a bragging point. 🧐
The song choice of overcomer made me laugh my ass off during that scene.
Just wanna point out that the Grim Reaper is one of the protesters outside so uh...yeah
I've been waiting for this!
Haha, I misread the title. I thought this was, like, an off-the-cuff, "unplanned!" review.
Love your vids though. I have an assignment due in 12 hours, but, ah well. 42 minute break.
Lol! I'm supposed to read and annotate a long behind Emmerson essay!😂
I have Physics....
@@joyeeverett6196 let's hope we get our homework done! 😂
@@jge8144 Let's hoope
I'll do it tomorrow. XD
@@joyeeverett6196 not me, though XD I wasn't kidding about the long behind essay! Ned to do THAT tonight!
I remember watching this guy like years ago and never saved the channel, never to be seen again in the youtube recommended. Found him through JLongbone. Its good to be back again. Love the content!
I remember being in the theater and almost chuckling at the CGI baby almost doing backflips in the opening scene trying to avoid the vacuum and instruments. Awkward 😋🤣
I did like that they put Abby and Doug BOTH being terrified of pro-life people after Dr. Tiller was shot because they're afraid of being murdered. Pro-lifers need to know that clinic workers are afraid of us, and sometimes with really good reason. We need to know so we can, you know, realize we're being jerks.
I wish the movie had spent more time on that. As is, it's kind of a 40 Days for Life commercial.
The movie wanted to create two groups...the "good" christian protestors who were nice to everyone, and the "bad" protestors, who bomb abortion clinics, scream horrible stuff and kill doctors. It's really ridiculous since anyone can become radicalized for the 'cause' when they are being surrounded by propaganda (like this film for example, demonizing the people who work at Planned Parenthood and making it seem like they have a 'bottom line' that they have to obey instead of caring for their patients like people).
@@sj4iy it's actually super interesting that you said that. My cousin works for Abby's organization (hence I follow their stuff pretty closely), and they spent a LOT of social media space talking about how they wanted to show the people working in the clinic as likable people. And they currently spend a ton of social media space talking about how you can't demonize people who work in the clinics-- how they really believe that they're helping women, and are usually in it because they believe what they're doing is good. That message is actually pretty revolutionary in the pro-life movement...if you want an example, contrast the comment sections on Abby Johnson's page with the ones on Live Action's page. There's definitely a difference in dominant philosophies at play.
Now, when it comes to the upper level management...yeah, the line is that they're all about profit and abortion (though PP's recent firing and attempted gag order of Lena Wen ain't helping their case). And I agree with Kevin that there's definitely a 'Professor Radisson' character in there, which is no bueno.
But with the way the lower level clinic workers were portrayed...that was actually a pretty sizeable step up from the way they've been portrayed in other 'pro-life' media and conversations I've seen. And one that probably really challenged a lot of pro-life activists (sadly).
@@sj4iy forgive me for saying so, but from your very positive view of Planned Parenthood, it seems like you're biased towards them, not an unbiased observer. I'm not one either, to be clear-- I think to be one, you'd have to have only a passing familiarity with the organization.
One of my biggest gripes with the movie is that the book it's based on actually DID show positive things that went on at that Planned Parenthood. Abby devoted a whole chapter to a woman suffering from severe post partum depression (thoughts of hurting herself and her baby) who came into the clinic that she was able to help. The movie would have been MUCH stronger if they showed more of that.
So...yeah, positive stuff happens there, or why would any of the employees stay?
The woman nearly dying, etc...one of the things that pro-lifers do (I know this because I am one, and I've spent a fair amount of time on these websites) is take pictures of ambulances that visit these facilities and post them everywhere. That's an actual thing that happens, so the clinic director being concerned about it strikes me as a realistic motivation (and I don't think it's a good idea, to be clear. It endangers the women who need care).
The stories about the shady stuff happening...there's a LOT of ex-employees of Planned Parenthood who have talked about that sort of stuff going on. There was actually recently a woman named Mayra Rodriguez, a clinic director (and former Planned Parenthood employee of the year), who won a $3 million lawsuit against them after they fired her for reporting this sort of shady stuff. And courts have ruled that video evidence showing Planned Parenthood selling body parts from fetuses aborted at their clinics was not, in fact, deceptively edited as Planned Parenthood claimed.
So I fully believe that they're capable of some truly shady stuff. And the fact that they just fired Dr. Lena Wen, who actually was concerned with women's healthcare as a whole, and hired a political lobbiest, really doesn't seem to work too well in their favor either.
@@sj4iy also, God's Not Dead 3 wasn't made by the same people who made the first two, and I agree, it seems to be the better movie.
Also, read some of the reviews of abortion clinics left by clients on Google (there's a collection of them on checkmyclinic.org, which is a pro-life site, but the review part should be easy to independently check if you don't want to accept data from a biased source (can't say that I blame you)). Or heck, give birth in a hospital. Nurses and doctors being patronizing jerks to women in pain totally happens.
@@JP2GiannaT I do prefer unbiased sources. Also I have two children, I know what it's like to give birth in a hospital. I'm high risk because of a medical condition so I've been poked, prodded and tested beyond what most people have, and my doctors were great and my nurses were better. I've been around doctors enough to know that if you don't like or trust your doctor, get a new one. If your doctor doesn't treat you well, go find another. I've done that several times. Doctors and nurses are humans, they can make mistakes, have bad days, be incompetent or be rude. I don't judge all doctors on the actions of a few that I've known. My daughter would be dead if not for her pediatrician who found a rare birth defect that no one else had. I would be dead if an ER doctor hadn't noticed that I had a very rare disease. But the doctors portrayed in this movie are downright comical in how badly they are written in order to prove someone's point. No doctor would do a D&C with a patient who is screaming and no clinic would ever risk a patient bleeding to death rather than call 911, especially PP (that would get them shut down faster than any pro life rights group could).