In spite of all the bad eggs??? In the past??? What about the current ones, like paganism, idolatry, sexual abuse, etc??? Why would anyone want to be a part of a church like that??? Who in their right mind would...
@@leahjames6870 I used to think all Catholics would go to hell. But God changed my views. I met my girlfriend who was a catholic, I was a lukewarm pentecostal Christian who wasn't as close to God as I should have been because I was doing very sinful things. Let's just say, she was the purest person that I've met in my entire life. The warmest, and so full of love. She said she's part of the Catholic Church but she only prays to Jesus because she felt that her prayers were better answered that way. So from that, I could tell, she was a good Christian but a bad Catholic. I'm not Catholic but after knowing her, I decided to go back to God and become a bible believing hot Christian armed with God's armour and no longer lukewarm. Many people in the Catholic church will perish but there truly are many faithful servants of God there too that Satan hasn't gotten his grips on.
Every Christian church has their "bad eggs". What are you suggesting people do? Cease being members of church?? As long as a church is compiled of human beings, it will be filled with "bad eggs". Being a Christian does not rob one of their free will. Every single "bad egg" in the Catholic Church, if they had chosen to follow Church teaching, would not be "bad eggs". All the sins within the Church have been committed by someone violating Church teaching. The problem is not the Catholic Church, the problem is humans choosing to follow their will over the will of God, over the laws He has given us. This is direct violation of Church teaching. It's not the Catholic Church you have a problem with. It's sinful human beings who choose their will over God's will that you have a problem with. And you will be encountering such people no matter what church group you may be in.
@@leahjames6870 Paganism and Idolatry? There is not a single example of where either of these are supported by the Catholic church. As for sexual abuse, the institutional average is at about 4%, this equivalent to the Catholic average. This means that around the globe in ANY institution the average is at around 4%. That means in schools, businesses, charities, and OTHER CHURCHES the average is the same. Sexual abuse isn't just a Catholic problem, it's a human problem. Also it's unfair to make the bad eggs argument as Catholicism is 2 or 3 times older than even the oldest protestant church which means it has had a lot more time to get "bad eggs". In addition to that, the Catholic church is larger than every single other christian church combined, more member=more "bad eggs". Also just because individuals in the church making bad decisions doesn't mean the theology itself is wrong, that is just a flawed philosophy. No where in the doctrine of the catholic Church does it support any kind of sin, including (of course) sexual abuse. If you have any questions about Catholic theology feel free to ask me, don't assume things (Idolatry and Paganism) just because your other protestant friends have told you so. Ask a Catholic about Catholic theology, not a protestant.
I had no idea that the guy from the channel was being rude until I read the messages and also saw that this channel talks trash about Catholicism. It’s the devil having a party because division was caused in our apostolic Church. The German guy is so sweet and sincere. At one point he said that if a guy stole his wallet, he wouldn’t care if a block away the robber repented. He talks about forgiveness! Love for the one who robbed him! Praise God! Awesome Catholic man of God.
@@m-hayek1985 Jesus Christ forgiving the repentant thief is part of Traditional Catholic teaching. Christ's weakness is too good for you to emulate, O rigid pharisee?
Pistis Alethie Every single traditional catechism teaches the death penalty. The Bible also teaches it. Catholic tradition is FOR death penalty for those who kill babies. Your sadly a modernist. Ask a traditional catholic priest (TLM) and he will agree with me.
This video doesn't speak well for your channel. All I saw was a patient, humble man being questioned by a snarky, legalistic opportunist trying to corner the poor guy into saying something he could use against him. Not much different than what the Accuser does to us on a daily basis. This is not a good representation of Christianity in action.
as if being rude to someone convinces anyone but to dig in their heels. No wonder Catholics and Protestants hate each other they can't even be cordial on a regular basis.
Michael Kikle Dear friend, Catholics are Christians too. We are the first Christians. Jesus Christ is my savior and the love of my life. He died for my sins and for that I rejoice. Do you know why I know this to be true? Because I learned this in catechism when I was young. We also believe in the Trinity. I do not know why some Protestant Christians do not understand this. Regardless have blessed day!
I thought the Catholc did a great job! What's interesting is that he was genuinely interested in the dialogue but naive that he was being targeted. You can tell he has a kind heart.
@Taylor Rowe NO, THAT IS NOT THE CATHOLIC TEACHING. You are spewing typical Protestant misunderstandings either naively or purposefully. We EARN nothing. God's grace is a gift but we must respond to that gift.
@Taylor RoweCorrect. we do not earn heaven. However, indulgences are part of the treasury of the Church so you must accept them if you are Catholic. I think you have a misunderstanding of what indulgences are.
@Taylor Rowe What view- that salvation belongs to God? What does that mean? God doesn't need salvation. He gives it to us. Did you instead mean that salvation is God's gift to us? Yes, of course. Not sure what you're getting at here. Anyway, the Catholic Church administers indulgences by their treasury, that is, the Church has the authority to bind in heaven what is bound on earth. Indulgences is Catholic. You must be a sedavecantist, am I correct? The only heresies regarding indulgences where from those of yesteryear...if any are occurring today due to vanity and other corrupt means then their judgment is on their souls...but true indulgencies are a dogma of the Catholic Church. It appears that you don't understand indulgences, otherwise you would reconsider your view. Don't let bad apples take away the good the Catholic Church offers.
@Taylor Rowe You said God IS salvation which made no sense. Anyway, yer preaching to the choir my friend...copy and paste that bit of news to a non-Catholic or non-Christian...I'm already on the narrow path. Peace!
I converted to Catholicism after reading Jean Danielou, Cardinal John Henry Newman, Marcel, and Henri De Lubac. My gosh..have you ever read Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger? These men are in a league I've never seen within Protestantism.
I grew up Catholic and always questioned it. As an adult, I became a Christ believer/ Christian. Never felt the love for Christ when I was a Catholic because that religion does not care about your salvation but about your wallet; they indoctrinate people into idolatry. Every service provided by this type of church comes with a $$$$dollar sign. Communion, baptism, pre wedding classes etc. Who gives someone the authority to forgive my sins? Didn't Jesus die in the cross for that reason? What makes the water holy? Why is the pope bling out when Jesus rode on a donkey? Where's the humility? Why is this religion a contradiction of the bible? Ultimately, why do they teach Jesus and God are different beings when the bible states otherwise. It is not a peaceful religion! Jesus is my saviour not my religion.
@@scvilla311 The Catholic church's job is to help get people to heaven. I admit there are corrupt people in the church, but there are also some really faithful ones as well. As for authority to forgive sins God gave that to the apostles when He said in John 20:23, " If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained" the apostles then passed this on throughout history where Catholic priest today have this power. Also the Catholic church does not teach that God and Jesus are different. The Catholic church teaches that there is one God, but three persons, Father, Son and Holy-Spirit. To teach that God and Jesus are different being would be heresy. And as for the Catholic faith not being biblical, show me one place were Catholics teach contrary to the bible.
@@scvilla311 There is no idolatry in the RCC, give me an example. Most services for the church you can choose to pay but you don't have to. Who gives a priest authority to forgive sins: They aren't, god is, they are given authority to act in his place. (This power was given to the apostles) The pope literally wears his garbs to be recognized, the pope actually has near the salary of a teacher. He does live in the Vatican Palace. There are no contradictions with the bible, show me one (You can't) The RCC teaches the trinity, I don't know where you got the idea that we teach Jesus and God are two different people. I think this may be the most ignorant you are when it comes to the RCC. When you say it's not a peaceful religion, what are you referring to? The Crusades? Those were defensive wars against the Saracens after the death of the "Prophet" Muhammad when they invaded Christendom and persecuted Christians. My Verdict: You really don't know what you are talking about. I'd love to help you understand the RCC better. Ask me questions and I will answer them. Please be respectful about it though.
This interview was completely unfair. They went after someone not fluent in the english language and tried setting a trap the whole time. Try interviewing someone that can speak on your level. You are trying to coerce this man in to saying something anti christian.
Yeah...It's not really fair when a pastor comes up to a random most likely uneducated person about this stuff. They should go to someone who knows what they're talking about. I'd suggest Bishop Robert Barron, that guy's a genius.
Questioning Catholics who are not properly catechised does not prove Catholicism is wrong. This German/Croatian is faithful. When a Catholic knows their faith it cannot be disproved because it is rooted in a 2,000 year old Christian philosophical tradition confirmed by sacred tradition, the teaching authority of the church and by the book that the Catholic Church created: the Bible.
The Bible states that every word is God breathed....and the Catholic church did not create the old testament...since it wasnt in existence till AD... The Bible states there is only one mediator between heaven and earth...Christ Jesus. ... John 3:16 is the gospel Faith in Jesus Christ alone is salvation and not of works less any one boasts.. Was the thief on the cross baptised? Jesus promised him he will be in Paradise with him...all the man did was put his trust in Jesus Christ. ..but he was not baptised. .. Baptism is an act of obedience when we place our trust in Jesus Christ. ..after we believe. ..not before....no babies were baptised in the bible...only people who personally put their trust in Jesus...all scripture is God breathed. Second commandment clearly in the old testament: Do not worship engraved images on heaven or earth... Catholic bible took it out... Mary cannot pray for you...only Christ Jesus can intercede for you...he is only mediator between heaven and earth...
Roberto No you didn't disprove the Catholic faith because they did not know their faith. Do you really believe that a Church which decided which books should be in the Bible would not have made sure it also was a rock solid justification for their faith. 2000 years of philosophical debate and defence of their beliefs overturned by simplistic or dishonest protesters 1500 to 1900 years later, I don't think so. Many Protester beliefs are not biblical. No my friend you have clearly not debated a Catholic who knows their faith. I suspect you may be such a former Catholic who was ignorant of the truth.
Michael I didn't say the Catholic Church created the Old Testament. I said they created the book called the Bible. Imagine, you base all your beliefs on a book created by the authority of the Catholic Church. Clearly you don't know what Catholics believe as you are simply peddling lies, distortions and untruths. People like you spend so much time attacking Catholics. Its not healthy.
@@colonelwhite1512 show me in bible where we are to pray to Mary or ask Mary to pray for us. Scripture is clear that there is mediator between heave and earth...Christ Jesus Why does Catholic church teach the rosary? And prays to Mary to forgive my sins... Jesus Christ already forgave my sins...at the cross.
The guy is the yellow vest is telling you something really crucial. That is preach the Gospel, and let God mold that person. Those people don't have the same knowledge of God. "Jesus said forgive then, for they don't know what they do" You both are great. God bless
I thought this video would go differently. Instead, the Protestant ended up essentially arguing for temporal punishment at the end! :D (for our separated brethren, temporal punishment is recompense due for sin that has already been forgiven, which the believer does (as a part of Christ's Body, adjoined to Christ, in cooperation with His grace), ie penance and is an argument for purgatory (cf Mt 12:31, 1 Corinthians 3:15)
@@someman7 there is nowhere in scripture that proves purgatory exists. In fact, quite the opposite. When Jesus was on the cross, what did he say to the thief? “TODAY, you will be with me in paradise.” Not tomorrow, not next week, but TODAY. Immediately after death he went to heaven. Nothing in between
@@RockOrgan At baptism not only are all sins forgiven but all temporal punishment as well. The thief could have been baptized. His suffering in union with Jesus could have also contributed to remission of sins, or he might have been given extraordinary grace by which love would remit temporal punishment. It is God's prerogative to save extraordinarily if He wants, and to remit temporal punishment if He wants. Either way, Scripture does seem to testify to the reality of purgatory in Matthew 5:25-26 and 1 Corinthians 3:11-15.
@@someman7 that is false theology and a false gospel. Sins are not forgiven by baptism and baptismal regeneration is not biblical. Please read Romans 1-5. You are saved and redeemed by turning from sin (repentance) to trust in Christ like you trust a parachute- with your life. One of the many problems with Catholicism is they say Christ + their good works merits their salvation. Paul says if you depend on any of your own righteousness for salvation your life with Christ is finished and you have left Gods grace. I pray you turn away from Sin and trust the triune God of the Bible my dude. God bless you
The problem with Apologia Studios is that they believe the Catholic Faith is in error, when in fact it was the Catholic Church that defines the Canon of Sacred Scripture. Jesus did not hand out Bibles; Jesus Christ founded a Church with authority to teach in His name name, thus the Bible was given to us by God through His Catholic Church. “Catholic” simply means “Universal” One Church with one teaching for all peoples. The problem is that these street preachers do not know the history of the Church.
The Catholic Church has some of the easiest doctrinal errors to spot of any Christian denomination. They leap off the pages. It's not an Apologia thing. I have rarely even met a Catholic who knew or at least shared basic Bible teaching. I have met quite a few who would call themselves not religious and Catholic.
MrDen312 Remember there are different claimants to Catholicism. The Latin See split from the other 4 Sees. The 4 became known as Eastern Orthodox(Orthodox Catholic), and the Latin See has its capital in Old Rome( Roman Catholics). Before this schism they had the councils to define the canon. The Gates of Hades never prevailed against the Church.
MrDen312 Also, yes many laymen are not very faithful or faithful a at all, especially in the Roman Catholic Church which in so many places seems so dead of a faith.
Absolutely disagree! The Catholic religion is not for God. Religion is man made. All you need is a relationship with Jesus Christ our savior. No need for works.
LOL. The Protestant just argued for the concept of temporal punishment after forgiveness has already occurred (the very definition of purgatory) at 14:43.
My Protestant Brethren, if you hold to Sola Scriptura, that Scripture Alone is the ultimate (and as usually stated, the ONLY) rule of Faith for the believer, you will run into the problem that no passage in Scripture categorically and explcitly condemns abortion. Agreed that there are passages that point towards that concept, but no explicit proof text. But, as JUST ONE example of how "Tradition" makes explicit what Scripture only implies (and in that ambiguity, many flat out deny), the First Century _Didache_ condemns abortion (and contraception) as grave sins. It is NOT the Protestant false dichotomy of EITHER Scripture OR Tradition, rather it is the much more coherent and Scriptural principle of Holy Scripture AND Holy Tradition together.
The yellow vest seems like the one who wants to bond and connect with a human being. The other guy was just here trying to debate. look how uncomfortable he is when he is done with his statements. lol
Have someone like Trent Horn, Jimmy Akin, Tim Staples, or Patrick Madrid on if you guys really want to debate Catholicism, instead of the “gotcha” street debates you do with unprepared Mormons and Catholics
It is a question, which you either didn't fully understand or chose not to answer. How did the believing Jew know that the "Biblical compilation" of Isaiah and 2 Chronicles in 50 B.C. is infallibly true?
It is not an edifying spectacle when the interviewer gives the impression that he is waiting to pounce on the person being interviewed. Why doesn't John Durbin engage with Catholic theologians on issues of difference between himself ie his channel and the Catholic church?
That isn't right I know Catholics are off on their doctrine but this is no way to do someone. The guy in the yellow seems to be a genuine person and that other guy is just wanting to argue it's horrible and sad. I think y'all need to focus less on arguing and be gentle and kind as the gospel says thats the only way to get threw to ppl
This is so dishonest and disrespectful, I'm a Calvinist and never saw myself approaching a Catholic to "Test" knowledge, this is self entitled and arrogant and I only see this pattern on Progressives or Communists, they walk around with this specific attitude some times this channel really mess things, God teaches about speaking the truth but not deliberately a prick.
This video was an unbelievable waste of time; the entirety of the video was a man trying to put his brother in Christ in a trap. If Apologia wants real debate and discussion they should interview informed Catholics (apologists or priests) instead of trying to catch a laymen off guard. This video makes me think much less of this channel.
@@rosettia3850 - Individual heretics abound in every religion, including yours. The Catholic Church itself lead currently by Pope Francis however, has never been heretical.
I’ve never seen apologia studios speak to a Catholic who knows his stuff, but that’s the nature of the “on the street” thing. Trent Horn owned JAMES WHITE. (Search the debate “can a Christian lose his salvation”). No way Pastor Jeff, with a lesser knowledge of scripture than White, would be willing to have Trent on.
The guy being interviewed was more concerned with a person's salvation than being condemned. He didn’t care about the money, he was delighted that the person who did him wrong was brought to Jesus and saved. That is so refreshing to hear and see. This man’s answer to that hypothetical situation was to respond in love. We could all learn to love each other better. Also, I do feel like us women are being given the wrong information by society and the health care system regarding abortion. I supported and stood by abortion up until I learned that those clump of cells were actually a human. So I do agree with him that women are being heavily influenced and brainwashed by society. With that said, there are women out there who know exactly what they're doing. The point I'm trying to make is just because a woman has had an abortion or supports it, doesn’t mean she has the correct information or evidence, and thus, shouldn't be condemned.
Both Scripture (John 3:5) and every early Church Father say that baptism is necessary for salvation. The sacrament of confession is also extremely early in Church history and based in Scripture (John 20:23).
It seems odd that Sola Fide would be true even though it's never found in Scripture or in the Early Church. That said, Apologia Studios is a great channel and I gain a lot from it.
Henry John 3:3-8. The final text to examine here is John 3:3, 5 which Catholics commonly couple together in order to argue for baptismal regeneration. It says, “3Jesus answered him, ‘Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God’ . . . . 5Jesus answered, ‘Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God’” (John 3:3, 8). Catholics argue the text is saying one has to be water baptized in order to be born again. As Catholic scholars Scott Hahn and Curtis Mitch argue, “The Council of Trent declared in 1547 that Jn 3:5 refers to Baptism. It was said that ‘water’ is no mere metaphor, but a visible sign of the Spirit’s invisible work in the sacrament” (Scott Hahn, Curtis Mitch, Ignatius Catholic Study Bible New Testament, [Ignatius Press, 2010], p. 166). However, there are various problems with this position. The text is not speaking of water baptism. First, we know water baptism is not being spoken of as the instrumental cause of new birth since in v. 8 Jesus likens the Spirit who regenerates to wind which blows where it wishes and not based on the will of man. Verse 8 says, “The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit” (John 3:8). Water baptism can not be the instrumental cause of new birth here otherwise we would know where the Spirit goes, that is, to those who want to and get baptized. No, Spiritual rebirth is not predicated on the will of man and him going and being baptized as this text shows. Baptism does not appropriate new birth since it is the Spirit who decides who to regenerate and when based on His choice alone. This coheres with John 1:13 a little earlier which shows being born again is not based on the will of man, but on the will of God: “who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God” (John 1:13). Second, when v. 3 says “unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God” the word for “and” is kai and can be seen as ascensive conjunction which would render kai as “even” or “that is.” As Matthew S. DeMoss explains in his Pocket Dictionary for the Study of New Testament Greek, “ascensive conjunction . . . A conjunction used to add one last piece of information, which may be out of the ordinary or perhaps even the most important point (*ascensive means ‘rising’). The conjunction καί can be used this way, in which case it is translated ‘even.’” (Matthew S. DeMoses, Pocket Dictionary for the Study of New Testament Greek, [InterVarsity Press, 2001], pp. 22-23). So the text can be translated “unless one is born of water, that is the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.” What Jesus would be saying then is being born of water must be understood as being born of the Spirit since the ascensive conjunction, kai, expresses a final point of focus. He would be using a metaphor of water to explain what the Spirit does in regeneration or new birth. Thus when the Spirit makes someone born again it is similar to water cleansing the person spiritually or internally. Thus water baptism is not in view. As Robert Gundry confirms, “Water symbolizes the Spirit according to 7:38-39 - therefore the translation ‘water, even the Spirit’ rather than ‘water and the Spirit.’ (Note that ‘water’ drops out in the next references to the Spirit” (Robert Gundry, Commentary on the New Testament, [Hendrickson Publishers, 2010], p. 360). Indeed, Gundry is right on water dropping out since, as D. A. Carson notes, “the rest of the discussion never mentions it again: the entire focus is on the work of the Spirit (v. 8), the work of the Son (vv. 14-15), the work of God himself (vv. 16-17), and the place of faith (vv. 15-16)” (D. A. Carson, John, The Pillar New Testament Commentary, [Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing, 1991], p. 192). If water baptism were the focus of v. 5 and so important this is odd. Third, scholars recognize the text behind John 3:3-8 is Ezekiel 36:25-27 (among other texts) which speaks of God sprinkling or washing His disobedient people giving them a new spirit and heart cleansing them and causing them to obey (e.g. D. A. Carson, John, The Pillar New Testament Commentary, [Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing, 1991], pp. 194-195). D. A. Carson adds, “When water is used figuratively in the Old Testament, it habitually refers to renewal or cleansing, especially when it is found in conjunction with ‘spirit’. This conjunction may be explicit, or may hide behind language depicting the ‘pouring out’ of the spirit (cf. Nu. 19:17-19; Ps. 51:9-10; Is. 32:15; 44:3-5; 55:1-3; Je. 2:13; 17:13; Ezk. 47:9; Joel 2:28-29; Zc. 14:8). . . . Ezek. 37” (D. A. Carson, John, The Pillar New Testament Commentary, [Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing, 1991], p. 195). Hence, what Christ is saying is God must wash you metaphorically by applying His Spirit to you so that you can have a new heart, nature, spirit etc. We know this because of conceptual similarities between John 3:5 and related Old Testament texts such as Ezekiel 36:25-27 and others, and because in v. 10 Jesus chastises Nicodemus for not understanding Him when Nicodemus was supposed to be the teacher of Israel, that is, the teacher of the Old Testament. Thus Christ is indicating his teaching on being born of water, that is the Spirit, is found in the Old Testament (just as we argued). Inner Spirit renewal with the Old Testament metaphor of cleansing water is in view, not water baptism. This is how one is born again.
Henry www.exegeticalapologetics.com/2018/05/baptismal-regeneration-justification.html www.exegeticalapologetics.com/2018/05/justification-is-by-faith-alone-issues.html
Bryson Townsend "First, we know water baptism is not being spoken of as the instrumental cause of new birth since in v. 8 Jesus likens the Spirit who regenerates to wind which blows where it wishes and not based on the will of man. Verse 8 says, “The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit” (John 3:8). Water baptism can not be the instrumental cause of new birth here otherwise we would know where the Spirit goes, that is, to those who want to and get baptized. No, Spiritual rebirth is not predicated on the will of man and him going and being baptized as this text shows. Baptism does not appropriate new birth since it is the Spirit who decides who to regenerate and when based on His choice alone. This coheres with John 1:13 a little earlier which shows being born again is not based on the will of man, but on the will of God: “who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God” (John 1:13)." I don't know how the Spirit having freedom shows that it's not water baptism. It's also a problem that every single early Christian that I've seen interprets this as talking about baptism. Not knowing where the Spirit goes does not imply that it doesn't refer to baptism, as when people are given salvation through baptism we still can't see the Holy Spirit or anything. Then with the point about the Greek word kai, kai almost always means "and."
I don't think a woman who commits an abortion should receive capital punishment , there is always grace and the possibility of redemption. Christ paid the price of God's wrath and justice.
God's grace is more powerful than cruse of any of sin, even the worst of the worst can find redemption in Christ. You may not like that answer but it is the biblical one.
God still says a life for a life as justice for the victim.Remember,God's word says the flesh profits nothing.A person can jump from a 100 story building and then God save them on the way down,but they still broke God's law of gravity and will go splat,yet their spirit go to Heaven.
Thought Crimes I agree with everything you just said, I don’t agree with the death penalty for that whole reason, I am blessed to be living in NZ a country that abolished the death penalty a very long time ago. God bless you
Women who aborts only in case if it dangers her life or any rape victims can be considered frm ur statement....others who do by seeking pleasures and kill the innocent lives will not be spared by God
Woah woah woah. I'm Catholic and I think Apologia totally misunderstood the Paul line. I think the death penalty is a terrible thing. Paul says I do not object to dying (If he has committed murder) he doesn't say he should be killed because he has murdered. He wasn't justifying the death penalty he was trying to hone in on the idea of how abhorrent killing another human is. This is how Protestantism was created, misunderstanding bible verses, not being able to rely on the authority of the church.
It shows these guys are so anti-Catholic that they will argue with a fellow Christian and pro-lifer just for clicks on TH-cam. I have really liked their conversations with pro-aborts, Mormons, JWs, but this really turns me off to their content. They do not understand Catholicism and they chose to argue with and try to trap a guy that has a language barrier.
I don't think as a christian pursuing justice is more important than salvation. In the end God is in complete control over justice and us standing there yelling for an execution is abhorrent. Yes i believe injustice was done, yes i believe justice must be done BUT i believe God will pass his judgement upon him. Remembering that he without sin cast the first stone and Jesus commanded the woman to go and sin no more, to go and sin no more. Not to condemn her, she will face judgement from the father after the time God has ordained for her to die and face judgement. We must care more about the souls of the wicked than seeking justice. Remembering God is sovereign and allows everything under the sun to happen. We were all deserving of death before we received the gift of salvation.
Both men spoke very respectfully to each other. The German gentleman was well educated and could communicate well in English. He was not a target nor victim. When the G.Gentleman focused on separation of church and state, the missionary reminded him to look through a biblical lens. Yes, God is loving and forgiving, but he is equally just. Example I will give: David and Bathsheba. David & she sinned, and as a result, their child died. It was the consequence of their sin. This is a great example how ppl should speak to each other in truth. This is speaking in love. Luther Said: peace if possible. Truth at all cost.
@Apologia Studios, What would you say about the woman who got an abortion before coming to Christ, but then repented of her sin and turned to Christ in the end, should she turn herself in and request the death penalty on herself? I understand the death penalty should be sought for those who murder their children when it is illegal and they are seeking these means secretly, but when it is so prevalent due to it being legal, I'm curious to hear your take on this specific situation.
I’m thinking that the Catholic was misunderstanding due to the language barrier and I think the interviewer was misunderstanding what the Catholic Was trying to explain. I think it was a lot of misunderstanding.
Capital punishment is supported by both the old and New Testament very clearly. In fact, we ourselves as sinners are all deserving of the penalty Christ himself paid for us on Calvary. If capital punishment weren’t an integral part of the faith then one could argue that Jesus didn’t need to die for our sins. HOWEVER, we see multiple instances throughout old and New Testament scripture that capital punishment is not carried out when it technically should have been under mosaic law (Moses, King David, the adulteress woman, etc.). If that is the case, which it clearly is, then we know that capital punishment is not necessarily a mandate anymore but rather something that is permissible. In Romans 13:1-5 we see Paul say some insightful things in the matter: “Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.” So ultimately, capital punishment is a God given tool for government authorities to wield, and for them only. We as submissive servants have no right to either carry out the punishment or even make a decision when outside the governing system. Obviously jurors would be an exception as they would temporarily be a part of the governing system. I love you Apologia, but sometimes you guys seem a bit hard headed, and I say that with all due respect and love.
Perhaps this is where we could learn something from the scriptures. In Genesis, the serpent convinces Eve to eat of the fruit on the tree. He does so seeming to care for her. “...for God knows that if you eat of the fruit, you will be like Him, knowing good and evil.” Catch that? It looks like the serpent wants something for Eve which is unequivocally good, knowing good and evil. Likewise, this is what is occurring today. The abortion community is appearing to want something good for the woman, a life free from the burdens of a child. In a small percent of cases, the child even came about through a gross injustice to and violation of the mother, and while this does not excise the act of abortion, it makes the case for it more appealing to the intellectually weak. Women have half of a political class affirming their “right” and a media which does the same and a court which, at least for now, recognizes and protects it... just like Eve had the snake. Yes women have heard the pro-life arguments, at least those who have ever spent more than 2 minutes on facebook. And yes, Eve knew God’s commandment of her. She even replied to the serpent, “The Lord has given us to eat of all the trees in the garden, but this one he has forbidden us to touch.” But the commonality in both scenarios is that we have a temptor affirming us, but not in truth. This is why the Catholic approach to the question, “What temporal punishment ought the mother face?” can be summed up by the image below. I wish it would just appear alongside the comment like on fb, but there it is. Apologia guys, I love your work. Come home to the Catholic Church, to Mary your Mother and to the Eucharist. www.google.com/search?q=mary+comforting+eve&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS607US609&hl=en-US&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjmxp71nqrdAhUm2IMKHWgVA9gQ_AUIESgB&biw=320&bih=492#imgrc=ynSQCQNNg2jbWM:
Phillip Hickman funny how you capitolized Catholic in your first post, but not in the second. I think that’s significant because they believe in the universal church (as denominated by the lower case), but the Capital C signifies a group which loves and avails themselves of the sacraments including reconciliation and receiving Jesus’s body in the Eucharist as commanded in John 6. Most if not nearly all protestants consider themselves separated from this.
Phillip Hickman, Phillip Hickman, I’m confused at how you think I’ve fallen into any trap, one of legalism or otherwise. This started when you stated that protestants (in general) never considered themselves separated from the Catholic Church, (which you capitalized), but regardless of the capitalization, given the context, I find it hard to believe you were referring to the universal church given that my prior comment was clearly about the Catholic Church. If you were referring to the universal church in that remark then your comment would have made no sense. I think we both agree that protestants never consodered themselves as separated from the “universal church.” If that was your point from the beginninh then why did you feel the need to make it? And why are we still having this discussion?
This is one of the only things that I was surprised about, the example he gives of a person who steals your money, comes to know Christ, yet they would still be held responsible. But when I went to the conference last year(?), they had people who had committed murder, who had repented and come to know Christ, who it seems, they would not want to be put to death. The ones that commit murder after the law is changed would be put to death, but the ones who did it before would not, despite that the law of God has not changed. The difference is only that the law of man has changed, but like he said in this video, God requires justice. So to be consistent, it would make more sense to me to desire that all who have committed murder to be placed under the law of God, no matter when the sin was committed.
So much about this video is absolutely terrible and cringey - First off, did this guy really just advocate death penalties derived from Mosaic Law to punish women who have an abortion? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? Plus his whole "death penalty is needed because justice is required even after people repent" can not be more at odds with Christian thought. If that standard was implemented in Church history, then Paul, as a former hunter of Christians who led scores of believers to their deaths, should have been killed after his repentance to satisfy justice. - The interviewer seemed to come off as arrogant and hostile despite the fact that the guy was a fellow pro-life advocate. - The premise of the video is wrong, there was no real discussion of Roman Catholicism being consistent in this instance. Etc, etc.
@Dan G The Sabbath? Dude we are born again, not of Adam. Being in the new creation, we rest on the day of the resurrection, Sunday. Which is the 1st day(new creation) and the 8th day(new beginning). The sabbath is fulfilled in Jesus Christ, we keep the sabbath by conforming to the new sabbath in Christ. It is the Lord's day, Sunday, we worship on that day according to the Didache(70AD) and the New Testament notably in Revelation (90AD). *AVE CHRISTUS REX*
I don’t think it’s up to us to judge others, this is not Jesus’ legacy. I always thought we are there to teach and spread the message by our own example - He is the Son of God and our only Saviour. In the New Testament, Jesus says to correct our Christian brothers and sisters if they are doing something wrong, and avoid those who don’t comply, but I never once read that we should punish anyone. Correct me if I’m wrong, I’m a Catholic who turned agnostic and just recently came back to Christianity, so I just started reading the Scripture again. I also suspected, since I was a child, that some things about Catholic faith and the Church aren’t right, but I think this is not one of them. I am “suspicious” of the sort of cult following that has been built around Holy Mary and the saints... To me it seems like idolatry. This is one of the reasons I stopped being a practiced Christian and lost my faith. I began reading about other Christians, Bible translations and archeological evidence and I am a bit lost. It 's confusing to see so many different belief systems stemming from one source
Good for you to recognize the false doctrine & idolatry practice of Catholicism. It is wicked, INDEED. The do what the BIBLE commands us NOT to do (pray to the dead, pray in vain repetition, practice penance) & even after Jesus CLEARLY said, "it is finished!" upon the cross). The only focus for salvation should be to become born again in repentant surrender to Jesus in denying self & picking up our cross to FOLLOW Jesus with the Holy Spirit POWER. Writing my sins & weaknesses on paper for Jesus seemed VERY instrumental in my born again encounter with Jesus/the Holy Spirit. Blessings in Jesus!🙋 💔👣👣💖
Is Catholic teaching consistent question mark why would you put this as some sort of clickbait this proves nothing English is not this person's first language it was not a fair conversation or a fair debate he is obviously a Christian I would focus sure energy elsewhere
If you want to debate and informed Catholic with equal skills then you should debate Trent horn from Catholic answers dot-com actually I think this group has plagiarized some of his debate techniques and I think they should be used against the pro-choicers not wasted against fellow Christians I also can't believe your channel is anti-catholic which I do now very sorry
I'm from Australia and am a Catholic and this video does not prove that Catholic teaching is inconsistent. All that is happening is that you are asking a lay person about their opinion on abortion and not on the Churches teaching on abortion. Probably better to speak to a priest or someone who is proficient on the teachings of the church. Death can be punishment for murder but mercy can be granted as well. Capital punishment should really only be reserved to those who are dangerous and are unable to rehabilitate back into society.
How about a conversation with an Eastern Orthodox Christian. Funny how we never see this. Hard to question the first Church formed by Christ -- before the Schism, before the Reformation, before any man-made changes that resulted in so many denominations. Pick the brains of a knowledgeable Orthodox Christian. How about the Bible Answer man? He saw the light.
The eastern Orthodox Church was not founded by Christ, it was born of schism with the Catholic Church. The Church Fathers never called the Church orthodox by name, but called it the Catholic Church, they called the Church the Catholic Church. They never denied that the bishop of Rome had authority over the whole Church or that the Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son or mentioned autocephalous churches or hesychasm. And they didn't permit divorce and remarriage or reception of the eucharist for people who were divorced and remarried or contraception.
And this confirms it. I recently found this channel and I was like. Woah this channel is awesome. And then I came across this video. Unsubscribe. Can’t support someone who trash talks my fellow catholic brothers / sisters. It’s somewhat sad how it all began with Catholicism and then politics came into play and sectors / denominations began. I mean everything you try to use to attack is originally from Catholicism. Anyhow, good day and goodbye.
I believe that the gentleman being interviewed has a better understanding of the Gospel and how its to be interpreted at this very moment then the interviewer. Yes I understand your desire to stop the killing and yes its murder, but you are failing to keep in mind what God said about the asylum cities as he referenced which is in the Bible.... also God said if a man hates another man he is guilty of murder so his punishment would be death as well, so therefore all mankind would be wiped out in one day. God was very literal when he spoke abut hate being murder just as much as the act itself since hate leads us to all sorts of horrible acts. I see an arrogance about the interviewer in this episode and its almost a personal agenda to get the gentleman to agree that these women should be put to death. Jesus came to save the world, not to condemn it, and the Bible tells us specifically that if someone is not a Christ Follower then we cannot hold them to any biblical standard period and that its the Christ Follower that we are to come to when they are doing things against Gods Word that will hurt them and the body of Christ. Yes, we have to tell non-Christ followers that they are in need of a savior because without Jesus they will die in there sin......... WHY, because when you tell someone (The accurate truth about Jesus, who He is, What He has done for us, and What we must do to accept him) and they at that point once hearing the truth reject Jesus are now acting out the only sin that leads to death..... UNBELIEF. So we all need to stay close to Gods Spoken Word and absolutely look to it for justice, and as the interviewer stated in a question, what are you supposed to do when someone steals from you, and the gentleman said he was happy with repentance and not repayment and the interviewer continued to push repayment anyways to make him seem wrong, well read the actual words of JESUS, Jesus said if someone take your coat, offer your shirt too, if someone slaps your face, turn the other cheek...... Jesus story about the King who forgave the huge debt to his servant and his servant ran out and the first guy he saw that owed him a much smaller debt had the guy thrown in jail and when the King heard of this he called his servant before and and said what????? Oh you servant, I see you learned your lesson on how to keep a good account of your money by collecting what is owed to you? NO, he said, you wicked servant, you have not forgiven a debt to someone else although I forgave a much greater debt to you, therefore he was thrown in prison. So, you are trying to get this guy to agree that these people should be killed, and I would say to you the interviewer, be very careful about your judgement in your anger towards sinners who are and aren’t Christ Followers lest you ever heard from God, you wicked servant, have you not realized that I have saved you from your own sin to give you eternal life, yet you go out and preach my Gospel and cast judgement of death on others...... I would say none of us ever want to hear that. You are no better, killing is not the worst sin in the Bible, as God looks at all sin as worthy enough for everyone who breaks even one of them to die, yet Jesus came and took on everyone of them onto himself to give us his righteousness by our faith in Jesus, You sir in all due respect are being haughty and need to repent and I would take this video down yet I see more encouragement in the interviewee because he displays the Love and Kindness of Jesus, therefore its good, since he did in fact answer your questions with the accurate response that Jesus would want. When Jesus walked around teaching and healing people whom was it he spoke harshly to? The Pharisees who where the teachers then, and what where they teaching, the government, and what where they teaching? He was not harsh to the sick, broken, ashamed, yes he spoke straight to their sin to let them know he knew their hidden shame and then showed them his unrelenting love and healed them, and they repented. I like your Pastor and his messages and how he reaches out with the truth of the Gospel unapologetically which does convict people and cause them to repent.... but you need to remember that Jesus took on all the judgement upon himself and when he died he didn’t make us judges, he went into deep detail on NOT to judge but to LOVE like he loved while he was here and that is how the world will see you are his disciples, WE are not the judge of others but of our own actions in which Jesus speaks to us each individually. Yes we are to judge between what someone says and does by having wisdom that we get from the Word of God, but that is for our discernment in knowing when people are speaking truth or lies, not to judge someone to death. AMEN!
Nothing was said about others complicit in abortion. Why not? What about the abortionist? Those that work with them, including those that take the money? What about the husband or the boyfriend, or the parent who accompanies the girls and women to the clinics? What about those who serve as "escorts" for women coming into the clinic? What about the parent(s) who forces an underage girl to have an abortion? Or any other person who supports the woman? What about those who passed laws to make it legal?
If one wants the state to draw charges against the murdering mother it is the state who pursues judgment by their standards not God. You cannot have it both ways.
The traditional Catholic understanding would be (a very strong case can be made) that the death penalty is justified in certain cases. However, chances to repent should be offered, as historical cases will show how that was done. Some will say that this is societal and depends upon the society. We are increasingly individualistic and less community based nowadays. People are not given a deep, good grasp on Religion and are very confused today, which can lower their moral responsibility, though objectively immoral things remain so.
Pretty disappointed in this video. You’re talking to a pro life Christian who is essentially on board with everything you believe. But you’re so emphatic on this “eye for an eye” approach. Saw nothing but Christian hypocrisy from Apologia in this one. I really don’t know what the objective of this video was. Ditch the Hammurabi Code fellas.
The laws covering children in the womb are conflicting. If a woman on her way to get an abortion gets in an car accident with a Drunk Driver and the child is killed in the womb the drunk driver can be charged with killing the child. Yet if the mother of the child happens to avoid the Drunk driver and gets an abortion the child dies and it is perfectly legal. That doesn't make sense.
It's so sad to see that these well-intentioned Calvinists think that Catholicism is false, and thus many instead of studying the arguments for Catholicism try to convert weak Catholics who also don't know much about the Faith. What's even more sad is that their doctrine is evil. The idea that Christ did not die for everyone due to some loophole they made about "God not failing to save anyone He died for" makes God into a programmer who sets us up like robots, choosing which ones He hates and which he will reward. I pray that all Protestant sects will come to the knowledge of the true faith, and see that the errors on justification they hold come from misconceptions on what "works of law" means, what John 6 talks about with reference to enteral security, and that they will abandon the non-apostolic tradition of Calvin, and the rest of the blasphemers.
"God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. If have ever read the book of Acts and the epistles, you will notice that the original church was not anything like Roman Catholicism. The Roman Catholic Church teaches many doctrines that are in disagreement with what the Bible declares. These include apostolic succession, worship of saints or Mary, prayer to saints or Mary, the pope / papacy, infant baptism, transubstantiation, plenary indulgences, the sacramental system, and purgatory. While Catholics claim Scriptural support for these concepts, none of these teachings have any solid foundation in the clear teaching of Scripture. These concepts are based on Catholic tradition, not the Word of God. In fact, they all clearly contradict Biblical principles. The most crucial problem with the Roman Catholic Church is its belief that faith alone in Christ is not sufficient for salvation. The Bible clearly and consistently states that receiving Jesus Christ as Savior, by grace through faith, grants salvation (John 1:12; 3:16,18,36; Acts 16:31; Romans 10:9-10,13; Ephesians 2:8-9). The Roman Catholic Church rejects this. The official position of the Roman Catholic Church is that a person must believe in Jesus Christ AND be baptized AND receive the Eucharist along with the other sacraments AND obey the decrees of the Roman Catholic Church AND perform meritorious works AND not die with any mortal sins AND etc., etc., etc. Catholic divergence from the Bible on this most crucial of issues, salvation, means that yes, Catholicism is a false religion. If a person believes what the Catholic Church officially teaches, he/she will not be saved. Any claim that works or rituals must be added to faith in order for salvation to be achieved is a claim that Jesus’ death was not sufficient to fully purchase our salvation. www.gotquestions.org/catholicism.html
Faye Lewis You lost me at "worship of saints or Mary". This is what I'm talking about. This is a common misconception of Catholicism, and you need to see that not everything you're told online is true. You need to research Catholic sources to find out what Catholicism teaches. With regard to salvation, the reason we teach that you must obey the commandments is that the Bible says that those who break them will not be saved, unless they repent. Same with faith and works, many Protestants confuse the Catholic teaching of it. We say that faith that is working through charity is sufficient for salvation, but Protestants deny this, instead they say that faith inevitably produces good works, but that good works don't perfect our faith so that it's sufficient. This is a direct contradiction of James 2:22. We agree that works of the law have nothing to do with salvation, that's why we don't practice circumcision or any of the laws of the OT. That's why St. Paul said in the next verse (Romans 3:29) "For is God the God of the Jews only? Or of the Gentiles also?". I highly recommend the following sites for you to see what Catholicism REALLY teaches, and the arguments for Catholicism: scripturecatholic.com catholic.com
Faye Lewis - Catholics do not worship Mary, we venerate her and treat her as our Mother since Jesus gave her to us at the cross. Second, apostolic succession is biblical - when Jesus told Peter “on this rock (Peter = Rock) I will build my church” ... and “ whose sins you forgive are forgiven in heaven ...” As for transubstantiation, there are numerous Eucharistic miracles through which Jesus has shown us the mere host is in fact his body, and not just any part, but the most important - his heart. Remember the Lord Jesus also said - “Unless you eat my body and drink my blood ...” many in his time found this hard to remember and it seems so for you too ... so watch out. Please study Catholic teaching in more depth before generalizing your argument in a single comment. Peace 🙏
It's likely this man has never heard of theonomy (neither has 99% of Protestants I speak to) and has no idea where your trying to lead the conversation although it seems like he would have ears to hear. (Unlike a lot of Christians I talk to)
I hate when “Christians” act like a snake in the grass to the watching world. We’re to be Wise like a serpent, and yes for sure this evangelist is, but also kind like a dove, and this guy is not acting as such...Why are you digging? Why are you looking to cause this guy to slip up? It’s not wonder why the “world” hates Christians... if you understood that prior to getting saved, you were just as this man, possibly worse, or that any “lost soul” needed Jesus and you did NOTHING to gain salvation, but through the grace of god , he saved you. You may have a tender heart towards the lost and not seek ways to trip others up, to showcase your “knowledge”.
Not sure on the Protestant side. But in the Catholic Church, we consider you (protestants) our brothers and sisters in Christ. God bless you, @J Mach. if you have any questions about the Catholic Church, id recommend you go to Catholic.com and search on the website Catholic answers or listen to the podcast catholic answers.
matthew frijo Except for the fact that they are heretical. Unfortunately they are clueless to this and believe we worship idols and say we aren’t Christian when we are the original Christians.
@we thepeople The problem has never been priests, or else God wouldn't have created the problem himself directly by institutionalized religion in the Old Testament, and I doubt you're a Gnostic heretic. The problem is misuse of power, which of course boils down to human nature. But as stated by Jesus himself in Matthew 23: 1-3 we will always be obligated to render submission regardless of corruption. Yesterday it was Adam, today it is the New Adam Jesus Christ, yesterday it was King David, today it is the davidic King-Christ, yesterday it was the chair(cathedra) of Moses, today it is the chair of St. Peter. There is A LOT to say so please just go to this link here, I wrote the article. You can also look up "Destynation Y" and you'll see I recently had a public and formal debate on this issue with a Protestant. christiantheorist.weebly.com/basics-of-the-holy-faith/category/01-the-church-of-jesus-the-christ-is-one
Of course there should be repercussions, but until abortion is criminalized there can’t be. I’m not sure the benefit of this question in the grand scheme.
God states he knew you in your mothers womb...so God declares life at conception. So abortion is wrong...God forgives people who had abortion. But there are consequences. ..
What if the woman will die due to the developing fetus. That means not only is the woman going to die but since the mother dies the foetus won't survive too. Work in a hospital and you'll see why abortion may be an option in some cases. Get of your high horse, you probably eat shell fish and wear cotton you hypocrite
What did god say ? .he said the woman was with child What is the correct age to kill a child? Maybe 2 months .6 months.9 months or 24 months old.It is always a blessing to have a baby.I love even little dogs and pet animals
I pray these catholic idolaters wake up and realize the depravity of their false doctrine. I was blessed out of Catholicism and now see the truth of the idol worshipping and praying to the dead or necromancy.
Has the questioner considered that there are two people who have created that baby. I disagree absolutely with abortion but don't just jump on the woman. They are living in a society that allows it and if something is common it becomes easier to justify it . Also have you not considered that many women are pressurised by family,friends, father,parents. I would hope that more men would accept responsibility for preventing pregnancy and take action to avoid it
I would like to say this with respect, as we are all christian brothers and sisters. If you believe that we should uphold the punishments of the law for murder, we should uphold the law for adultery, for cursing their mother and father, for homosexual intercourse (leviticus 20). The punishment for these things are also death. If you uphold the punishment for murder, you must uphold the death penalty for adultery, for cursing your mother and father, and for those who engage in sexual immorality. Paul was also a murderer of Christians. He persecuted the Christian church. Under law he should have been put to death for this. He was shown mercy. I think God is the ultimate judge of all. Everyone who is not in Christ will receive the due punishment for everything they have done. Jesus comforted the sinner, he comforted the woman at the well who married so many men and was with a man that was not her husband. He never condemned them to capital punishment. And I don't think we should to. Any thoughts on this? Just my ramblings.
Leviticus 19:15 "You shall do no injustice in court. You shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great, but in righteousness shall you judge your neighbor. Should we not uphold this command since we are picking and choosing here? Jesus was sentenced to capital punishment for all of our sins, because God is just, God is righteous and He does not show partiality to one over another. Ceremonial laws and civil laws that pertain to the governing of God's covenant people don't carry over to us. They were for a specific purpose, for a specific people, for a specific time. The Moral law summarized in the 10 commandments is for all time and all people it is written on our hearts, we know when we violate it. Capital punishment for murder is just. Capital punishment for rape is just. The rape victim and society doesn't have to pay room and board for the murderer or the rapist thus being victimized along with the actual victims of the original crimes. And we can give the perpetrator the gospel so they have the hope of eternal life if they repent and believe. The punishment should fit the crime, that is actual social justice(righteousness).
A Catholic is a Christian before he or she is a Catholic. It seems like the cool thing to bash Catholics atm then feel superior and not see the hypocrisy. And no, we don't pray to Mary. If you bothered to actually speak to a catholic priest you'd understand. We pray to no one but God and we also ask that our friends and neighbours pray for us and our families.
"A Catholic is a Christian before he or she is a Catholic." No, that doesn't make sense. A person who is baptized into the Catholic Church is a Catholic and there is no difference between being a Catholic and being a Christian. The Catholic religion is the authentic Christian religion. There is no authentic Christian faith or identity apart from Catholic faith and identity. And we do pray to Mary. The act of asking someone in heaven for help is prayer to that person. And we don't just ask Mary to pray for us, we also honor and praise her in the Hail Mary and other Marian prayers, in litanies, novenas, masses. The claim that we don't pray to Mary is not a teaching of the Church, it is a claim recently stated by some Catholic apologists to appease protestants.
@Taylor Rowe There is no Christian before Catholic. Christ established the Catholic Church and religion. He didn't teach a gospel that is independent of them. The Christian religion is the Catholic religion. Belief in the Catholic Church is a fundamental article of Christian faith, which is why it is professed in the apostles' creed. “Concerning this Holy Catholic Church Paul writes to Timothy, ‘That thou mayest know haw thou oughtest to behave thyself in the House of God, which is the Church of the Living God, the pillar and ground of the truth’” Cyril of Jerusalem, Catechetical Lectures,18:25 (A.D. 350). “The Article, In one Holy Catholic Church,’ on which, though one might say many things, we will speak but briefly. It is called Catholic then because it extends over all the world, from one end of the earth to the other; and because it teaches universally and completely one and all the doctrines which ought to come to men’s knowledge, concerning things both visible and invisible, heavenly and earthly… for this cause the Faith has securely delivered to thee now the Article, And in one Holy Catholic Church;’ that thou mayest avoid their wretched meetings, and ever abide with the Holy Church Catholic in which thou wast regenerated. And if ever thou art sojourning in cities, inquire not simply where the Lord’s House is (for the other sects of the profane also attempt to call their own dens houses of the Lord), nor merely where the Church is, but where is the Catholic Church. For this is the peculiar name of this Holy Church, the mother of us all, which is the spouse of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Only-begotten Son of God.” Cyril of Jerusalem, Catechetical Lectures, 18:23,26 (A.D. 350). “We must hold to the Christian religion and to communication in her Church, which is Catholic and which is called Catholic not only by her own members but even by all her enemies. For when heretics or the adherents of schisms talk about her, not among themselves but with strangers, willy-nilly they call her nothing else but Catholic. For they will not be understood unless they distinguish her by this name which the whole world employs in her regard.” Augustine, The True Religion, 7:12 (A.D. 390).
@Taylor Rowe "We can NOT EARN OUR WAY TO HEAVEN AND THAT ISN'T A CATHOLIC TEACHING. It was a false heresy from the corrupt middle ages popes," No it was never a heresy. The Church and scripture teach that good works have merit before God and are necessary for salvation, and that salvation is a reward for doing good as well as a gift and and inheritance. For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels: and then will he render to every man according to his works. [Matthew 16:27] And they that have done good things, shall come forth unto the resurrection of life; but they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment. [John 5:29] To them indeed, who according to patience in good work, seek glory and honour and incorruption, eternal life: [Romans 2:7] Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only? [James 2:24] Catechism: 2010 Since the initiative belongs to God in the order of grace, no one can merit the initial grace of forgiveness and justification, at the beginning of conversion. Moved by the Holy Spirit and by charity, we can then merit for ourselves and for others the graces needed for our sanctification, for the increase of grace and charity, and for the attainment of eternal life. Even temporal goods like health and friendship can be merited in accordance with God's wisdom. These graces and goods are the object of Christian prayer. Prayer attends to the grace we need for meritorious actions.
@taylorrowe2002 Ok, so why are you screaming at me? Yes, there have always been people in the Church who don’t perfectly understand every aspect of Church teachings. What does that have to do with this guy’s defense of life and opposition to abortion?
@taylorrowe2002 All caps and dozens of !!!!!!!! are indeed “screaming”. No need for that, or for spamming everyone with your generalizations and condemnations of people you don’t know.
@taylorrowe2002 I don’t disagree with you that there are many people out there who don’t know, don’t care, and/or reject Jesus. There are many lukewarm Catholics. But… there are more effective ways to share that message than by screaming at random people on social media. You sound a little bit hysterical, not gonna lie.
Apologia didn't do anything wrong, there's no traps, no deception, he just wants to reaffirm the man that abortion should be judged by the Word of God. And also knows the Gospel. The man in yellow was not offended, this was just a friendly chat, they are both on the same page.
I am not understanding where this is going and why he is attacking a Catholic. He has the same pro-life perspective, seems like he is having a Bible Battle to increase his ego. The Pope hasn't changed any Catholic teaching about capital punishment. It is being discussed but he cannot change 2000 years of Catholic doctrine. He should read church fathers writings and years of Catholic doctrine, does not say to ban capital punishment. Also, if we turn to Bible. The Bible, also allows genocides, should not prescribe Bible literary all the time. Zachary does not seem to have a heart of mercy, even Jesus forgave Saul and change him to Paul. The Roman Catholic was just saying that capital punishment should be judge case by case and carefully. I agree abortion is murder and a grievous sin, and should be made illegal. Until then keep up the pro-life movement, preach repentance and mercy. God Bless.
The catholic church is false. The popes have written their own scriptures many time. Right now coexist is extremely Satanic and literally goes against written scripture in the bible. The pope is not a vicar of God, he literally holds a false position for himself. The bible doesn't support genocide. It supported death sentence, even for a nation. "The bible cannot be taken literally." Everywhere true it can. When Moses and Jacob were commanded to utterly destroy a place it was God's will for the time. This can be applied literally, because it was relevant to the time. I don't believe the entire bible can taken as truth though.
@Sophia Macken Protestants, many of them, have a Reformation complex. When they see a Catholic it's like they get a flash back of Luther going up against the Catholic Church. They cannot just be humble for a second and realize that not only do they disagree with Catholics, they also disagree with nearly every other Protestant including Luther, Calvin and Zwingli who all believed in the perpetual virginity of Mary. Luther didn't think James and Revelation were part of the Bible, and Calvin thought Baruch was part of the Old Testament. It's confusion upon confusion. *Christianity Today:* Catholicism(substance) 52% Protestantism(element)30% Orthodoxy(element)18% Catholicism is monarchial, Orthodoxy is democratic, and Protestantism of course is anarchical. The Church founded by Jesus Christ, called the KINGDOM of God, is the Catholic Church.
Wait wait wait hold on. So the Old Covenant prescribed a punishment for a crime and we must maintain it? What about the crime for adultery, the punishment is also death. But Jesus said that in the New Covenant that we cannot throw a stone unless we have not sinned. Was David free of sin? Did he murder? Did he commit adultery? God worked with him and created a kingdom. Paul tortured and probably killed Christians, should we have killed him? Idk about the death penalty but it doesn't seem like an easy decision whether or not we should have it, but that would be Catholic.
Bizzare to see and hear a Calvinist trying to stop unsaved women killing their babies which they conceived during their lifetimes, and yet Calvinism believes God predestinated before time began women who have abortions not only to fall pregnant but then arranges to have the abortion. Inconsistent theology and activity on the part of the Calvinist. And no sharing the gospel with this lost and deceived Catholic either? Maybe this missed witness was also predestinated before the world began!
Well he is correct life does begin at the moment of conception to end that life is murder. But I noticed something about the guy in the yellow vest that says he's a Catholic he is wearing a Rosary I question this because a Rosary is a tool used for prayer and meditation. Now some people wear Rosaries as a sign of their faith but many Catholics such as myself see wearing a Rosary as sacrilegious. It has become so common for people to wear Rosaries as jewelry.
It debunks man made religion... false gospel, etc. Case in point: mormonism, Jehova witnesses, and now even catholicism (this one clearly is much closer, but it still professes salvation by works, idols, praying to saints and not God through Jesus alone, wont accept that scripture is the sole authorative source of knowledge from God and not popes, etc.)
Wow ! 98% of this commentators totally missed the mark. You two in the video, y’all were awesome 👏 it’s great to see two man being pro-life, respectfully, sincerely and agreeable, Just a couple of ??? for the commentators #1 where is the attack? #2 how was he rude to Steward? #3 are catholic that gullible/unable to defend their faith ( which that is what you all are attacking the other guy about) without sending The Christian to a priest, #4 all this video was about “trying “ to show Steward that murder is a ticket to human law. Knowing or not knowing that, that is a human being in their body, why is he “snaking” Steward? Just for rephrasing the question; #5 how many women would you know, that does NOT know that a pregnancy is a child 👶? (God’s law is for the unborn child, “eternal death” UNLESS there’s true repentance and believe achievable thru Jesus Christ) But what this guy is saying there still should be human law punishment for abortion. That is all he was trying to point. Steward knows what is right and wrong except he sways depending on where the wind blows. Hoops! Y’all probably not going to get this either 🤔🤔🤔
Death penalty or long jail sentence should be the penalty for baby murder.If they know this is the consequences,then maybe it would make them think about making a baby to begin with.
what if they repent and become a sister in christ? One you in good conscience support the death of someone who has turned away from their evil sin? We find freedom in the gospel not condemnation.
God bless faithful Catholics -- they hold on in spite of all the bad eggs of the Catholic Church in the past. God Bless this young man in the video.
In spite of all the bad eggs??? In the past??? What about the current ones, like paganism, idolatry, sexual abuse, etc??? Why would anyone want to be a part of a church like that??? Who in their right mind would...
@@leahjames6870 I used to think all Catholics would go to hell. But God changed my views. I met my girlfriend who was a catholic, I was a lukewarm pentecostal Christian who wasn't as close to God as I should have been because I was doing very sinful things. Let's just say, she was the purest person that I've met in my entire life. The warmest, and so full of love. She said she's part of the Catholic Church but she only prays to Jesus because she felt that her prayers were better answered that way. So from that, I could tell, she was a good Christian but a bad Catholic. I'm not Catholic but after knowing her, I decided to go back to God and become a bible believing hot Christian armed with God's armour and no longer lukewarm. Many people in the Catholic church will perish but there truly are many faithful servants of God there too that Satan hasn't gotten his grips on.
Every Christian church has their "bad eggs". What are you suggesting people do? Cease being members of church??
As long as a church is compiled of human beings, it will be filled with "bad eggs". Being a Christian does not rob one of their free will.
Every single "bad egg" in the Catholic Church, if they had chosen to follow Church teaching, would not be "bad eggs".
All the sins within the Church have been committed by someone violating Church teaching.
The problem is not the Catholic Church, the problem is humans choosing to follow their will over the will of God, over the laws He has given us. This is direct violation of Church teaching.
It's not the Catholic Church you have a problem with. It's sinful human beings who choose their will over God's will that you have a problem with. And you will be encountering such people no matter what church group you may be in.
@@awakenedone7577 "but she only prays to Jesus because she felt that her prayers were better answered that way."
She never asks you to pray for her?
@@leahjames6870 Paganism and Idolatry? There is not a single example of where either of these are supported by the Catholic church. As for sexual abuse, the institutional average is at about 4%, this equivalent to the Catholic average. This means that around the globe in ANY institution the average is at around 4%. That means in schools, businesses, charities, and OTHER CHURCHES the average is the same. Sexual abuse isn't just a Catholic problem, it's a human problem. Also it's unfair to make the bad eggs argument as Catholicism is 2 or 3 times older than even the oldest protestant church which means it has had a lot more time to get "bad eggs". In addition to that, the Catholic church is larger than every single other christian church combined, more member=more "bad eggs". Also just because individuals in the church making bad decisions doesn't mean the theology itself is wrong, that is just a flawed philosophy. No where in the doctrine of the catholic Church does it support any kind of sin, including (of course) sexual abuse. If you have any questions about Catholic theology feel free to ask me, don't assume things (Idolatry and Paganism) just because your other protestant friends have told you so. Ask a Catholic about Catholic theology, not a protestant.
I had no idea that the guy from the channel was being rude until I read the messages and also saw that this channel talks trash about Catholicism. It’s the devil having a party because division was caused in our apostolic Church. The German guy is so sweet and sincere. At one point he said that if a guy stole his wallet, he wouldn’t care if a block away the robber repented. He talks about forgiveness! Love for the one who robbed him! Praise God! Awesome Catholic man of God.
Maureen0307 Nonetheless the man was quite weak. Traditional catholic teaching is FOR death penalty.
Long live the Latin mass. Pax!
@@m-hayek1985 Jesus Christ forgiving the repentant thief is part of Traditional Catholic teaching. Christ's weakness is too good for you to emulate, O rigid pharisee?
Josh Higdon Protestantism is apostosy
Pistis Alethie Every single traditional catechism teaches the death penalty. The Bible also teaches it. Catholic tradition is FOR death penalty for those who kill babies. Your sadly a modernist. Ask a traditional catholic priest (TLM) and he will agree with me.
@Rafal Omnom How so?
This video doesn't speak well for your channel. All I saw was a patient, humble man being questioned by a snarky, legalistic opportunist trying to corner the poor guy into saying something he could use against him. Not much different than what the Accuser does to us on a daily basis. This is not a good representation of Christianity in action.
sidgar1 Catholics aren’t Christians. This was a good thing.
as if being rude to someone convinces anyone but to dig in their heels. No wonder Catholics and Protestants hate each other they can't even be cordial on a regular basis.
@Johnny Thompson Baseless insults are a dime a dozen over the internet. A tool of one devoid of logic.
Michael Kikle Dear friend, Catholics are Christians too. We are the first Christians. Jesus Christ is my savior and the love of my life. He died for my sins and for that I rejoice.
Do you know why I know this to be true? Because I learned this in catechism when I was young. We also believe in the Trinity. I do not know why some Protestant Christians do not understand this. Regardless have blessed day!
Agreed
I thought the Catholc did a great job! What's interesting is that he was genuinely interested in the dialogue but naive that he was being targeted. You can tell he has a kind heart.
@Taylor Rowe NO, THAT IS NOT THE CATHOLIC TEACHING. You are spewing typical Protestant misunderstandings either naively or purposefully. We EARN nothing. God's grace is a gift but we must respond to that gift.
@Taylor Rowe That's correct...Grace through faith with works (acts of love). I had misread your reply.
@Taylor RoweCorrect. we do not earn heaven.
However, indulgences are part of the treasury of the Church so you must accept them if you are Catholic. I think you have a misunderstanding of what indulgences are.
@Taylor Rowe What view- that salvation belongs to God? What does that mean? God doesn't need salvation. He gives it to us. Did you instead mean that salvation is God's gift to us? Yes, of course. Not sure what you're getting at here.
Anyway, the Catholic Church administers indulgences by their treasury, that is, the Church has the authority to bind in heaven what is bound on earth. Indulgences is Catholic. You must be a sedavecantist, am I correct? The only heresies regarding indulgences where from those of yesteryear...if any are occurring today due to vanity and other corrupt means then their judgment is on their souls...but true indulgencies are a dogma of the Catholic Church. It appears that you don't understand indulgences, otherwise you would reconsider your view. Don't let bad apples take away the good the Catholic Church offers.
@Taylor Rowe You said God IS salvation which made no sense.
Anyway, yer preaching to the choir my friend...copy and paste that bit of news to a non-Catholic or non-Christian...I'm already on the narrow path. Peace!
I converted to Catholicism after reading Jean Danielou, Cardinal John Henry Newman, Marcel, and Henri De Lubac. My gosh..have you ever read Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger? These men are in a league I've never seen within Protestantism.
I grew up Catholic and always questioned it. As an adult, I became a Christ believer/ Christian. Never felt the love for Christ when I was a Catholic because that religion does not care about your salvation but about your wallet; they indoctrinate people into idolatry. Every service provided by this type of church comes with a $$$$dollar sign. Communion, baptism, pre wedding classes etc. Who gives someone the authority to forgive my sins? Didn't Jesus die in the cross for that reason? What makes the water holy? Why is the pope bling out when Jesus rode on a donkey? Where's the humility? Why is this religion a contradiction of the bible? Ultimately, why do they teach Jesus and God are different beings when the bible states otherwise. It is not a peaceful religion!
Jesus is my saviour not my religion.
@@scvilla311 The Catholic church's job is to help get people to heaven. I admit there are corrupt people in the church, but there are also some really faithful ones as well. As for authority to forgive sins God gave that to the apostles when He said in John 20:23, " If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained" the apostles then passed this on throughout history where Catholic priest today have this power. Also the Catholic church does not teach that God and Jesus are different. The Catholic church teaches that there is one God, but three persons, Father, Son and Holy-Spirit. To teach that God and Jesus are different being would be heresy. And as for the Catholic faith not being biblical, show me one place were Catholics teach contrary to the bible.
@@scvilla311 There is no idolatry in the RCC, give me an example. Most services for the church you can choose to pay but you don't have to. Who gives a priest authority to forgive sins: They aren't, god is, they are given authority to act in his place. (This power was given to the apostles) The pope literally wears his garbs to be recognized, the pope actually has near the salary of a teacher. He does live in the Vatican Palace. There are no contradictions with the bible, show me one (You can't) The RCC teaches the trinity, I don't know where you got the idea that we teach Jesus and God are two different people. I think this may be the most ignorant you are when it comes to the RCC. When you say it's not a peaceful religion, what are you referring to? The Crusades? Those were defensive wars against the Saracens after the death of the "Prophet" Muhammad when they invaded Christendom and persecuted Christians.
My Verdict: You really don't know what you are talking about. I'd love to help you understand the RCC better. Ask me questions and I will answer them. Please be respectful about it though.
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why worship those people tho?
This interview was completely unfair. They went after someone not fluent in the english language and tried setting a trap the whole time. Try interviewing someone that can speak on your level. You are trying to coerce this man in to saying something anti christian.
You need to speak to a Catholic apologist about these stuff! Or Fr. Mike Schmitz
Yes sir!!!! Or Padre Luis Toro.
Yeah...It's not really fair when a pastor comes up to a random most likely uneducated person about this stuff. They should go to someone who knows what they're talking about. I'd suggest Bishop Robert Barron, that guy's a genius.
They don’t care to actually engage. I wouldn’t either when I was a Protestant
or Trent Horn
Or Bishop Robert Barron
Questioning Catholics who are not properly catechised does not prove Catholicism is wrong. This German/Croatian is faithful. When a Catholic knows their faith it cannot be disproved because it is rooted in a 2,000 year old Christian philosophical tradition confirmed by sacred tradition, the teaching authority of the church and by the book that the Catholic Church created: the Bible.
Colonel I've disproved the Catholic faith many times in conversations with the so-called "properly catechized"
The Bible states that every word is God breathed....and the Catholic church did not create the old testament...since it wasnt in existence till AD...
The Bible states there is only one mediator between heaven and earth...Christ Jesus. ...
John 3:16 is the gospel
Faith in Jesus Christ alone is salvation and not of works less any one boasts..
Was the thief on the cross baptised? Jesus promised him he will be in Paradise with him...all the man did was put his trust in Jesus Christ. ..but he was not baptised. ..
Baptism is an act of obedience when we place our trust in Jesus Christ. ..after we believe. ..not before....no babies were baptised in the bible...only people who personally put their trust in Jesus...all scripture is God breathed.
Second commandment clearly in the old testament:
Do not worship engraved images on heaven or earth...
Catholic bible took it out...
Mary cannot pray for you...only Christ Jesus can intercede for you...he is only mediator between heaven and earth...
Roberto No you didn't disprove the Catholic faith because they did not know their faith. Do you really believe that a Church which decided which books should be in the Bible would not have made sure it also was a rock solid justification for their faith. 2000 years of philosophical debate and defence of their beliefs overturned by simplistic or dishonest protesters 1500 to 1900 years later, I don't think so. Many Protester beliefs are not biblical. No my friend you have clearly not debated a Catholic who knows their faith. I suspect you may be such a former Catholic who was ignorant of the truth.
Michael I didn't say the Catholic Church created the Old Testament. I said they created the book called the Bible. Imagine, you base all your beliefs on a book created by the authority of the Catholic Church. Clearly you don't know what Catholics believe as you are simply peddling lies, distortions and untruths. People like you spend so much time attacking Catholics. Its not healthy.
@@colonelwhite1512 show me in bible where we are to pray to Mary or ask Mary to pray for us.
Scripture is clear that there is mediator between heave and earth...Christ Jesus
Why does Catholic church teach the rosary? And prays to Mary to forgive my sins...
Jesus Christ already forgave my sins...at the cross.
The guy is the yellow vest is telling you something really crucial. That is preach the Gospel, and let God mold that person. Those people don't have the same knowledge of God. "Jesus said forgive then, for they don't know what they do"
You both are great. God bless
Respect to the vest guy, i knew instantly that he had croatian roots, greetings from another croat living in germany !
Real Catholic man right there. Loving, submitting in reverence to Christ, and true to the Faith.
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I thought this video would go differently. Instead, the Protestant ended up essentially arguing for temporal punishment at the end! :D (for our separated brethren, temporal punishment is recompense due for sin that has already been forgiven, which the believer does (as a part of Christ's Body, adjoined to Christ, in cooperation with His grace), ie penance and is an argument for purgatory (cf Mt 12:31, 1 Corinthians 3:15)
@@someman7 there is nowhere in scripture that proves purgatory exists. In fact, quite the opposite. When Jesus was on the cross, what did he say to the thief? “TODAY, you will be with me in paradise.” Not tomorrow, not next week, but TODAY. Immediately after death he went to heaven. Nothing in between
@@RockOrgan At baptism not only are all sins forgiven but all temporal punishment as well. The thief could have been baptized. His suffering in union with Jesus could have also contributed to remission of sins, or he might have been given extraordinary grace by which love would remit temporal punishment. It is God's prerogative to save extraordinarily if He wants, and to remit temporal punishment if He wants. Either way, Scripture does seem to testify to the reality of purgatory in Matthew 5:25-26 and 1 Corinthians 3:11-15.
@@someman7 that is false theology and a false gospel. Sins are not forgiven by baptism and baptismal regeneration is not biblical. Please read Romans 1-5. You are saved and redeemed by turning from sin (repentance) to trust in Christ like you trust a parachute- with your life. One of the many problems with Catholicism is they say Christ + their good works merits their salvation. Paul says if you depend on any of your own righteousness for salvation your life with Christ is finished and you have left Gods grace. I pray you turn away from Sin and trust the triune God of the Bible my dude. God bless you
The problem with Apologia Studios is that they believe the Catholic Faith is in error, when in fact it was the Catholic Church that defines the Canon of Sacred Scripture. Jesus did not hand out Bibles; Jesus Christ founded a Church with authority to teach in His name name, thus the Bible was given to us by God through His Catholic Church. “Catholic” simply means “Universal” One Church with one teaching for all peoples. The problem is that these street preachers do not know the history of the Church.
The Catholic Church has some of the easiest doctrinal errors to spot of any Christian denomination. They leap off the pages. It's not an Apologia thing. I have rarely even met a Catholic who knew or at least shared basic Bible teaching. I have met quite a few who would call themselves not religious and Catholic.
MrDen312 the problem is not Catholic reaching, but rather the misrepresentation of Catholic teaching by those who have been duped
MrDen312 Remember there are different claimants to Catholicism. The Latin See split from the other 4 Sees. The 4 became known as Eastern Orthodox(Orthodox Catholic), and the Latin See has its capital in Old Rome( Roman Catholics). Before this schism they had the councils to define the canon. The Gates of Hades never prevailed against the Church.
MrDen312 Also, yes many laymen are not very faithful or faithful a at all, especially in the Roman Catholic Church which in so many places seems so dead of a faith.
Absolutely disagree! The Catholic religion is not for God. Religion is man made. All you need is a relationship with Jesus Christ our savior. No need for works.
LOL. The Protestant just argued for the concept of temporal punishment after forgiveness has already occurred (the very definition of purgatory) at 14:43.
Tipparat Duangin He literally provided the timestamp for where the guy from the channel supports temporal punishment.
My Protestant Brethren, if you hold to Sola Scriptura, that Scripture Alone is the ultimate (and as usually stated, the ONLY) rule of Faith for the believer, you will run into the problem that no passage in Scripture categorically and explcitly condemns abortion. Agreed that there are passages that point towards that concept, but no explicit proof text.
But, as JUST ONE example of how "Tradition" makes explicit what Scripture only implies (and in that ambiguity, many flat out deny), the First Century _Didache_ condemns abortion (and contraception) as grave sins. It is NOT the Protestant false dichotomy of EITHER Scripture OR Tradition, rather it is the much more coherent and Scriptural principle of Holy Scripture AND Holy Tradition together.
The yellow vest seems like the one who wants to bond and connect with a human being. The other guy was just here trying to debate. look how uncomfortable he is when he is done with his statements. lol
Basically the difference between Catholics and evangelicals.
And why in the world did he choose a fellow pro-life advocate to argue with???
Have someone like Trent Horn, Jimmy Akin, Tim Staples, or Patrick Madrid on if you guys really want to debate Catholicism, instead of the “gotcha” street debates you do with unprepared Mormons and Catholics
James White has debated some of them before. And they all lost.
Lol then we didnt watch the same debates then
How did the believing Jew know Isaiah and 2 Chronicles was scripture in 50 B.C.?
Because it was apart of the Biblical compilation of the time? Is that even a question?
It is a question, which you either didn't fully understand or chose not to answer. How did the believing Jew know that the "Biblical compilation" of Isaiah and 2 Chronicles in 50 B.C. is infallibly true?
There was at least one Christian speaking in this video, and he was wearing a hi viz jacket. I'm not so sure about the other person.
It is not an edifying spectacle when the interviewer gives the impression that he is waiting to pounce on the person being interviewed. Why doesn't John Durbin engage with Catholic theologians on issues of difference between himself ie his channel and the Catholic church?
That isn't right I know Catholics are off on their doctrine but this is no way to do someone. The guy in the yellow seems to be a genuine person and that other guy is just wanting to argue it's horrible and sad. I think y'all need to focus less on arguing and be gentle and kind as the gospel says thats the only way to get threw to ppl
This is so dishonest and disrespectful, I'm a Calvinist and never saw myself approaching a Catholic to "Test" knowledge, this is self entitled and arrogant and I only see this pattern on Progressives or Communists, they walk around with this specific attitude some times this channel really mess things, God teaches about speaking the truth but not deliberately a prick.
Learn how to approach for God sake!
@x GeneraI Well said! BTW I'm your brother :-)
This video was an unbelievable waste of time; the entirety of the video was a man trying to put his brother in Christ in a trap. If Apologia wants real debate and discussion they should interview informed Catholics (apologists or priests) instead of trying to catch a laymen off guard. This video makes me think much less of this channel.
J van he couldn’t stand a chance with Catholic Answers.
If Apologia Studios wants to know what the Catholic faith is, he should speak with the Dimond Brothers of vaticancatholic.com
@@rosettia3850 No! The Diamond Brothers are sedevacantists who are not in communion with Rome.
@@theamerican4609 Rome is full of heretics and apostates. You know nothing of the faith.
@@rosettia3850 - Individual heretics abound in every religion, including yours. The Catholic Church itself lead currently by Pope Francis however, has never been heretical.
You need to invite Trent Horn on your "show." He's a Pro-Life Catholic!!!
@Constance
Ikr lol.
I’ve never seen apologia studios speak to a Catholic who knows his stuff, but that’s the nature of the “on the street” thing. Trent Horn owned JAMES WHITE. (Search the debate “can a Christian lose his salvation”). No way Pastor Jeff, with a lesser knowledge of scripture than White, would be willing to have Trent on.
@@UnratedAwesomeness i agree
He's also from Arizona
@Constance You should see Trent Horn conversations on the topic "why are you pro-choice" on CatholicAnswers. It's pretty good! :)
Please go to a church and interview a priest. They will be glad to hear and talk to you.
The guy being interviewed was more concerned with a person's salvation than being condemned. He didn’t care about the money, he was delighted that the person who did him wrong was brought to Jesus and saved. That is so refreshing to hear and see. This man’s answer to that hypothetical situation was to respond in love.
We could all learn to love each other better.
Also, I do feel like us women are being given the wrong information by society and the health care system regarding abortion. I supported and stood by abortion up until I learned that those clump of cells were actually a human. So I do agree with him that women are being heavily influenced and brainwashed by society. With that said, there are women out there who know exactly what they're doing. The point I'm trying to make is just because a woman has had an abortion or supports it, doesn’t mean she has the correct information or evidence, and thus, shouldn't be condemned.
Both Scripture (John 3:5) and every early Church Father say that baptism is necessary for salvation. The sacrament of confession is also extremely early in Church history and based in Scripture (John 20:23).
It seems odd that Sola Fide would be true even though it's never found in Scripture or in the Early Church.
That said, Apologia Studios is a great channel and I gain a lot from it.
Henry John 3:3-8. The final text to examine here is John 3:3, 5 which Catholics commonly couple together in order to argue for baptismal regeneration. It says, “3Jesus answered him, ‘Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God’ . . . . 5Jesus answered, ‘Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God’” (John 3:3, 8). Catholics argue the text is saying one has to be water baptized in order to be born again. As Catholic scholars Scott Hahn and Curtis Mitch argue, “The Council of Trent declared in 1547 that Jn 3:5 refers to Baptism. It was said that ‘water’ is no mere metaphor, but a visible sign of the Spirit’s invisible work in the sacrament” (Scott Hahn, Curtis Mitch, Ignatius Catholic Study Bible New Testament, [Ignatius Press, 2010], p. 166). However, there are various problems with this position. The text is not speaking of water baptism. First, we know water baptism is not being spoken of as the instrumental cause of new birth since in v. 8 Jesus likens the Spirit who regenerates to wind which blows where it wishes and not based on the will of man. Verse 8 says, “The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit” (John 3:8). Water baptism can not be the instrumental cause of new birth here otherwise we would know where the Spirit goes, that is, to those who want to and get baptized. No, Spiritual rebirth is not predicated on the will of man and him going and being baptized as this text shows. Baptism does not appropriate new birth since it is the Spirit who decides who to regenerate and when based on His choice alone. This coheres with John 1:13 a little earlier which shows being born again is not based on the will of man, but on the will of God: “who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God” (John 1:13). Second, when v. 3 says “unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God” the word for “and” is kai and can be seen as ascensive conjunction which would render kai as “even” or “that is.” As Matthew S. DeMoss explains in his Pocket Dictionary for the Study of New Testament Greek, “ascensive conjunction . . . A conjunction used to add one last piece of information, which may be out of the ordinary or perhaps even the most important point (*ascensive means ‘rising’). The conjunction καί can be used this way, in which case it is translated ‘even.’” (Matthew S. DeMoses, Pocket Dictionary for the Study of New Testament Greek, [InterVarsity Press, 2001], pp. 22-23). So the text can be translated “unless one is born of water, that is the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.” What Jesus would be saying then is being born of water must be understood as being born of the Spirit since the ascensive conjunction, kai, expresses a final point of focus. He would be using a metaphor of water to explain what the Spirit does in regeneration or new birth. Thus when the Spirit makes someone born again it is similar to water cleansing the person spiritually or internally. Thus water baptism is not in view. As Robert Gundry confirms, “Water symbolizes the Spirit according to 7:38-39 - therefore the translation ‘water, even the Spirit’ rather than ‘water and the Spirit.’ (Note that ‘water’ drops out in the next references to the Spirit” (Robert Gundry, Commentary on the New Testament, [Hendrickson Publishers, 2010], p. 360). Indeed, Gundry is right on water dropping out since, as D. A. Carson notes, “the rest of the discussion never mentions it again: the entire focus is on the work of the Spirit (v. 8), the work of the Son (vv. 14-15), the work of God himself (vv. 16-17), and the place of faith (vv. 15-16)” (D. A. Carson, John, The Pillar New Testament Commentary, [Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing, 1991], p. 192). If water baptism were the focus of v. 5 and so important this is odd. Third, scholars recognize the text behind John 3:3-8 is Ezekiel 36:25-27 (among other texts) which speaks of God sprinkling or washing His disobedient people giving them a new spirit and heart cleansing them and causing them to obey (e.g. D. A. Carson, John, The Pillar New Testament Commentary, [Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing, 1991], pp. 194-195). D. A. Carson adds, “When water is used figuratively in the Old Testament, it habitually refers to renewal or cleansing, especially when it is found in conjunction with ‘spirit’. This conjunction may be explicit, or may hide behind language depicting the ‘pouring out’ of the spirit (cf. Nu. 19:17-19; Ps. 51:9-10; Is. 32:15; 44:3-5; 55:1-3; Je. 2:13; 17:13; Ezk. 47:9; Joel 2:28-29; Zc. 14:8). . . . Ezek. 37” (D. A. Carson, John, The Pillar New Testament Commentary, [Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing, 1991], p. 195). Hence, what Christ is saying is God must wash you metaphorically by applying His Spirit to you so that you can have a new heart, nature, spirit etc. We know this because of conceptual similarities between John 3:5 and related Old Testament texts such as Ezekiel 36:25-27 and others, and because in v. 10 Jesus chastises Nicodemus for not understanding Him when Nicodemus was supposed to be the teacher of Israel, that is, the teacher of the Old Testament. Thus Christ is indicating his teaching on being born of water, that is the Spirit, is found in the Old Testament (just as we argued). Inner Spirit renewal with the Old Testament metaphor of cleansing water is in view, not water baptism. This is how one is born again.
@@thenopasslook Is sodomy within marriage a sin?
Henry www.exegeticalapologetics.com/2018/05/baptismal-regeneration-justification.html
www.exegeticalapologetics.com/2018/05/justification-is-by-faith-alone-issues.html
Bryson Townsend "First, we know water baptism is not being spoken of as the instrumental cause of new birth since in v. 8 Jesus likens the Spirit who regenerates to wind which blows where it wishes and not based on the will of man. Verse 8 says, “The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit” (John 3:8). Water baptism can not be the instrumental cause of new birth here otherwise we would know where the Spirit goes, that is, to those who want to and get baptized. No, Spiritual rebirth is not predicated on the will of man and him going and being baptized as this text shows. Baptism does not appropriate new birth since it is the Spirit who decides who to regenerate and when based on His choice alone. This coheres with John 1:13 a little earlier which shows being born again is not based on the will of man, but on the will of God: “who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God” (John 1:13)."
I don't know how the Spirit having freedom shows that it's not water baptism. It's also a problem that every single early Christian that I've seen interprets this as talking about baptism. Not knowing where the Spirit goes does not imply that it doesn't refer to baptism, as when people are given salvation through baptism we still can't see the Holy Spirit or anything.
Then with the point about the Greek word kai, kai almost always means "and."
I don't think a woman who commits an abortion should receive capital punishment , there is always grace and the possibility of redemption. Christ paid the price of God's wrath and justice.
God's grace is more powerful than cruse of any of sin, even the worst of the worst can find redemption in Christ. You may not like that answer but it is the biblical one.
God still says a life for a life as justice for the victim.Remember,God's word says the flesh profits nothing.A person can jump from a 100 story building and then God save them on the way down,but they still broke God's law of gravity and will go splat,yet their spirit go to Heaven.
Tim Ballentine
Biblically, they go to sleep until the second advent.
Thought Crimes I agree with everything you just said, I don’t agree with the death penalty for that whole reason, I am blessed to be living in NZ a country that abolished the death penalty a very long time ago. God bless you
Women who aborts only in case if it dangers her life or any rape victims can be considered frm ur statement....others who do by seeking pleasures and kill the innocent lives will not be spared by God
Woah woah woah. I'm Catholic and I think Apologia totally misunderstood the Paul line. I think the death penalty is a terrible thing. Paul says I do not object to dying (If he has committed murder) he doesn't say he should be killed because he has murdered. He wasn't justifying the death penalty he was trying to hone in on the idea of how abhorrent killing another human is. This is how Protestantism was created, misunderstanding bible verses, not being able to rely on the authority of the church.
Didn't Saul murder a lot of Christians as a Pharizee?
evidenceforchristianity.org/did-paul-kill-any-of-the-christians-he-persecuted/
So what does this video achieve?
It shows these guys are so anti-Catholic that they will argue with a fellow Christian and pro-lifer just for clicks on TH-cam. I have really liked their conversations with pro-aborts, Mormons, JWs, but this really turns me off to their content. They do not understand Catholicism and they chose to argue with and try to trap a guy that has a language barrier.
Man, I love Yellow Vest guy. Good job, Brother!
Awesomeee, please guysss do more videos about Roman Catholicism, God Bless you!
I don't think as a christian pursuing justice is more important than salvation. In the end God is in complete control over justice and us standing there yelling for an execution is abhorrent. Yes i believe injustice was done, yes i believe justice must be done BUT i believe God will pass his judgement upon him. Remembering that he without sin cast the first stone and Jesus commanded the woman to go and sin no more, to go and sin no more. Not to condemn her, she will face judgement from the father after the time God has ordained for her to die and face judgement. We must care more about the souls of the wicked than seeking justice. Remembering God is sovereign and allows everything under the sun to happen. We were all deserving of death before we received the gift of salvation.
@Taylor Rowe what does this have anything to do with what i said?
Both men spoke very respectfully to each other. The German gentleman was well educated and could communicate well in English. He was not a target nor victim. When the G.Gentleman focused on separation of church and state, the missionary reminded him to look through a biblical lens. Yes, God is loving and forgiving, but he is equally just. Example I will give: David and Bathsheba. David & she sinned, and as a result, their child died. It was the consequence of their sin.
This is a great example how ppl should speak to each other in truth. This is speaking in love. Luther Said: peace if possible. Truth at all cost.
I love the guy in the yellow jacket. So proud of him. 😘😘😘
@Apologia Studios,
What would you say about the woman who got an abortion before coming to Christ, but then repented of her sin and turned to Christ in the end, should she turn herself in and request the death penalty on herself?
I understand the death penalty should be sought for those who murder their children when it is illegal and they are seeking these means secretly, but when it is so prevalent due to it being legal, I'm curious to hear your take on this specific situation.
I’m thinking that the Catholic was misunderstanding due to the language barrier and I think the interviewer was misunderstanding what the Catholic
Was trying to explain. I think it was a lot of misunderstanding.
Good stuff, thanks guys.
How can you use "thous shalt not kill" to speak out against abortion, but not the death penalty?
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
Abortion is murder against an innnocent. Death penalty is punishment against someone that commits murder or other heinous crime. Very different.
@@scvilla311 so you agree both are forms of killing
Capital punishment is supported by both the old and New Testament very clearly. In fact, we ourselves as sinners are all deserving of the penalty Christ himself paid for us on Calvary. If capital punishment weren’t an integral part of the faith then one could argue that Jesus didn’t need to die for our sins. HOWEVER, we see multiple instances throughout old and New Testament scripture that capital punishment is not carried out when it technically should have been under mosaic law (Moses, King David, the adulteress woman, etc.). If that is the case, which it clearly is, then we know that capital punishment is not necessarily a mandate anymore but rather something that is permissible. In Romans 13:1-5 we see Paul say some insightful things in the matter: “Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.”
So ultimately, capital punishment is a God given tool for government authorities to wield, and for them only. We as submissive servants have no right to either carry out the punishment or even make a decision when outside the governing system. Obviously jurors would be an exception as they would temporarily be a part of the governing system. I love you Apologia, but sometimes you guys seem a bit hard headed, and I say that with all due respect and love.
Perhaps this is where we could learn something from the scriptures. In Genesis, the serpent convinces Eve to eat of the fruit on the tree. He does so seeming to care for her. “...for God knows that if you eat of the fruit, you will be like Him, knowing good and evil.” Catch that? It looks like the serpent wants something for Eve which is unequivocally good, knowing good and evil. Likewise, this is what is occurring today. The abortion community is appearing to want something good for the woman, a life free from the burdens of a child. In a small percent of cases, the child even came about through a gross injustice to and violation of the mother, and while this does not excise the act of abortion, it makes the case for it more appealing to the intellectually weak. Women have half of a political class affirming their “right” and a media which does the same and a court which, at least for now, recognizes and protects it... just like Eve had the snake. Yes women have heard the pro-life arguments, at least those who have ever spent more than 2 minutes on facebook. And yes, Eve knew God’s commandment of her. She even replied to the serpent, “The Lord has given us to eat of all the trees in the garden, but this one he has forbidden us to touch.” But the commonality in both scenarios is that we have a temptor affirming us, but not in truth. This is why the Catholic approach to the question, “What temporal punishment ought the mother face?” can be summed up by the image below. I wish it would just appear alongside the comment like on fb, but there it is.
Apologia guys, I love your work. Come home to the Catholic Church, to Mary your Mother and to the Eucharist.
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catholicism is satan's counterfeit Christianity.
awaken4Jesus , what leads you to make that conclusion?
True enough of the first ones. Ask one of them today that same question, though.
Phillip Hickman funny how you capitolized Catholic in your first post, but not in the second. I think that’s significant because they believe in the universal church (as denominated by the lower case), but the Capital C signifies a group which loves and avails themselves of the sacraments including reconciliation and receiving Jesus’s body in the Eucharist as commanded in John 6. Most if not nearly all protestants consider themselves separated from this.
Phillip Hickman, Phillip Hickman, I’m confused at how you think I’ve fallen into any trap, one of legalism or otherwise. This started when you stated that protestants (in general) never considered themselves separated from the Catholic Church, (which you capitalized), but regardless of the capitalization, given the context, I find it hard to believe you were referring to the universal church given that my prior comment was clearly about the Catholic Church. If you were referring to the universal church in that remark then your comment would have made no sense. I think we both agree that protestants never consodered themselves as separated from the “universal church.” If that was your point from the beginninh then why did you feel the need to make it? And why are we still having this discussion?
This is one of the only things that I was surprised about, the example he gives of a person who steals your money, comes to know Christ, yet they would still be held responsible. But when I went to the conference last year(?), they had people who had committed murder, who had repented and come to know Christ, who it seems, they would not want to be put to death. The ones that commit murder after the law is changed would be put to death, but the ones who did it before would not, despite that the law of God has not changed. The difference is only that the law of man has changed, but like he said in this video, God requires justice. So to be consistent, it would make more sense to me to desire that all who have committed murder to be placed under the law of God, no matter when the sin was committed.
So much about this video is absolutely terrible and cringey
- First off, did this guy really just advocate death penalties derived from Mosaic Law to punish women who have an abortion? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? Plus his whole "death penalty is needed because justice is required even after people repent" can not be more at odds with Christian thought. If that standard was implemented in Church history, then Paul, as a former hunter of Christians who led scores of believers to their deaths, should have been killed after his repentance to satisfy justice.
- The interviewer seemed to come off as arrogant and hostile despite the fact that the guy was a fellow pro-life advocate.
- The premise of the video is wrong, there was no real discussion of Roman Catholicism being consistent in this instance.
Etc, etc.
J J
Amen! Totally agree!
www.sabbathtruth.com/free-resources/article-library/id/916/catholic-church-admits-they-made-the-change
@Dan G
The Sabbath? Dude we are born again, not of Adam.
Being in the new creation, we rest on the day of the resurrection, Sunday.
Which is the 1st day(new creation) and the 8th day(new beginning).
The sabbath is fulfilled in Jesus Christ, we keep the sabbath by conforming to the new sabbath in Christ.
It is the Lord's day, Sunday, we worship on that day according to the Didache(70AD) and the New Testament notably in Revelation (90AD).
*AVE CHRISTUS REX*
Amen
Beautiful conversation.
Your singing to the choir in this interview...or was that the point?
I’m trying to find the point. He’s trying to argue with a fellow pro-lifer for some reason.
@Aologia Studios What is the evangelical Protestant view on contraception and IVF?
I don’t think it’s up to us to judge others, this is not Jesus’ legacy. I always thought we are there to teach and spread the message by our own example - He is the Son of God and our only Saviour. In the New Testament, Jesus says to correct our Christian brothers and sisters if they are doing something wrong, and avoid those who don’t comply, but I never once read that we should punish anyone. Correct me if I’m wrong, I’m a Catholic who turned agnostic and just recently came back to Christianity, so I just started reading the Scripture again. I also suspected, since I was a child, that some things about Catholic faith and the Church aren’t right, but I think this is not one of them. I am “suspicious” of the sort of cult following that has been built around Holy Mary and the saints... To me it seems like idolatry. This is one of the reasons I stopped being a practiced Christian and lost my faith. I began reading about other Christians, Bible translations and archeological evidence and I am a bit lost. It 's confusing to see so many different belief systems stemming from one source
Good for you to recognize the false doctrine & idolatry practice of Catholicism. It is wicked, INDEED. The do what the BIBLE commands us NOT to do (pray to the dead, pray in vain repetition, practice penance) & even after Jesus CLEARLY said, "it is finished!" upon the cross). The only focus for salvation should be to become born again in repentant surrender to Jesus in denying self & picking up our cross to FOLLOW Jesus with the Holy Spirit POWER. Writing my sins & weaknesses on paper for Jesus seemed VERY instrumental in my born again encounter with Jesus/the Holy Spirit. Blessings in Jesus!🙋
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Catholosim is NOT Christianity.
You guys truly are the church in modern times.
Is Catholic teaching consistent question mark why would you put this as some sort of clickbait this proves nothing English is not this person's first language it was not a fair conversation or a fair debate he is obviously a Christian I would focus sure energy elsewhere
This guys voice sounds exactly like pastor Jeff. Almost like they are brothers .. they must spend lots of time together
Where was this filmed?
13:00 this guy says that Paul says the death penalty is ok. This is the problem with everyone “interpreting” the Bible for themselves
If you want to debate and informed Catholic with equal skills then you should debate Trent horn from Catholic answers dot-com actually I think this group has plagiarized some of his debate techniques and I think they should be used against the pro-choicers not wasted against fellow Christians I also can't believe your channel is anti-catholic which I do now very sorry
I'm from Australia and am a Catholic and this video does not prove that Catholic teaching is inconsistent. All that is happening is that you are asking a lay person about their opinion on abortion and not on the Churches teaching on abortion. Probably better to speak to a priest or someone who is proficient on the teachings of the church. Death can be punishment for murder but mercy can be granted as well. Capital punishment should really only be reserved to those who are dangerous and are unable to rehabilitate back into society.
I can’t tell if the catholic isn’t understanding the question or if he is purposefully playing dumb
Short answer.... yes
How about a conversation with an Eastern Orthodox Christian. Funny how we never see this. Hard to question the first Church formed by Christ -- before the Schism, before the Reformation, before any man-made changes that resulted in so many denominations. Pick the brains of a knowledgeable Orthodox Christian. How about the Bible Answer man? He saw the light.
Ekaterini Amen.
The eastern Orthodox Church was not founded by Christ, it was born of schism with the Catholic Church. The Church Fathers never called the Church orthodox by name, but called it the Catholic Church, they called the Church the Catholic Church. They never denied that the bishop of Rome had authority over the whole Church or that the Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son or mentioned autocephalous churches or hesychasm. And they didn't permit divorce and remarriage or reception of the eucharist for people who were divorced and remarried or contraception.
And this confirms it. I recently found this channel and I was like. Woah this channel is awesome. And then I came across this video. Unsubscribe.
Can’t support someone who trash talks my fellow catholic brothers / sisters.
It’s somewhat sad how it all began with Catholicism and then politics came into play and sectors / denominations began. I mean everything you try to use to attack is originally from Catholicism. Anyhow, good day and goodbye.
I believe that the gentleman being interviewed has a better understanding of the Gospel and how its to be interpreted at this very moment then the interviewer. Yes I understand your desire to stop the killing and yes its murder, but you are failing to keep in mind what God said about the asylum cities as he referenced which is in the Bible.... also God said if a man hates another man he is guilty of murder so his punishment would be death as well, so therefore all mankind would be wiped out in one day. God was very literal when he spoke abut hate being murder just as much as the act itself since hate leads us to all sorts of horrible acts. I see an arrogance about the interviewer in this episode and its almost a personal agenda to get the gentleman to agree that these women should be put to death. Jesus came to save the world, not to condemn it, and the Bible tells us specifically that if someone is not a Christ Follower then we cannot hold them to any biblical standard period and that its the Christ Follower that we are to come to when they are doing things against Gods Word that will hurt them and the body of Christ. Yes, we have to tell non-Christ followers that they are in need of a savior because without Jesus they will die in there sin......... WHY, because when you tell someone (The accurate truth about Jesus, who He is, What He has done for us, and What we must do to accept him) and they at that point once hearing the truth reject Jesus are now acting out the only sin that leads to death..... UNBELIEF. So we all need to stay close to Gods Spoken Word and absolutely look to it for justice, and as the interviewer stated in a question, what are you supposed to do when someone steals from you, and the gentleman said he was happy with repentance and not repayment and the interviewer continued to push repayment anyways to make him seem wrong, well read the actual words of JESUS, Jesus said if someone take your coat, offer your shirt too, if someone slaps your face, turn the other cheek...... Jesus story about the King who forgave the huge debt to his servant and his servant ran out and the first guy he saw that owed him a much smaller debt had the guy thrown in jail and when the King heard of this he called his servant before and and said what????? Oh you servant, I see you learned your lesson on how to keep a good account of your money by collecting what is owed to you? NO, he said, you wicked servant, you have not forgiven a debt to someone else although I forgave a much greater debt to you, therefore he was thrown in prison. So, you are trying to get this guy to agree that these people should be killed, and I would say to you the interviewer, be very careful about your judgement in your anger towards sinners who are and aren’t Christ Followers lest you ever heard from God, you wicked servant, have you not realized that I have saved you from your own sin to give you eternal life, yet you go out and preach my Gospel and cast judgement of death on others...... I would say none of us ever want to hear that. You are no better, killing is not the worst sin in the Bible, as God looks at all sin as worthy enough for everyone who breaks even one of them to die, yet Jesus came and took on everyone of them onto himself to give us his righteousness by our faith in Jesus, You sir in all due respect are being haughty and need to repent and I would take this video down yet I see more encouragement in the interviewee because he displays the Love and Kindness of Jesus, therefore its good, since he did in fact answer your questions with the accurate response that Jesus would want. When Jesus walked around teaching and healing people whom was it he spoke harshly to? The Pharisees who where the teachers then, and what where they teaching, the government, and what where they teaching? He was not harsh to the sick, broken, ashamed, yes he spoke straight to their sin to let them know he knew their hidden shame and then showed them his unrelenting love and healed them, and they repented. I like your Pastor and his messages and how he reaches out with the truth of the Gospel unapologetically which does convict people and cause them to repent.... but you need to remember that Jesus took on all the judgement upon himself and when he died he didn’t make us judges, he went into deep detail on NOT to judge but to LOVE like he loved while he was here and that is how the world will see you are his disciples, WE are not the judge of others but of our own actions in which Jesus speaks to us each individually. Yes we are to judge between what someone says and does by having wisdom that we get from the Word of God, but that is for our discernment in knowing when people are speaking truth or lies, not to judge someone to death. AMEN!
That guy looks like Kevin Love 😂
What are your thoughts on evolution?
You interviewed Ben Shapiro? Where can I find that?
Why does Apologia say “image of God” instead of “ in the image of God”?
Nothing was said about others complicit in abortion. Why not? What about the abortionist? Those that work with them, including those that take the money? What about the husband or the boyfriend, or the parent who accompanies the girls and women to the clinics? What about those who serve as "escorts" for women coming into the clinic? What about the parent(s) who forces an underage girl to have an abortion? Or any other person who supports the woman? What about those who passed laws to make it legal?
If one wants the state to draw charges against the murdering mother it is the state who pursues judgment by their standards not God. You cannot have it both ways.
He’s trying to sound like Jeff durbin, which I understand because Jeff is awesome. However, you have to find your own voice.
Keep up your good work on abortion.
The traditional Catholic understanding would be (a very strong case can be made) that the death penalty is justified in certain cases. However, chances to repent should be offered, as historical cases will show how that was done.
Some will say that this is societal and depends upon the society. We are increasingly individualistic and less community based nowadays. People are not given a deep, good grasp on Religion and are very confused today, which can lower their moral responsibility, though objectively immoral things remain so.
Pretty disappointed in this video. You’re talking to a pro life Christian who is essentially on board with everything you believe. But you’re so emphatic on this “eye for an eye” approach. Saw nothing but Christian hypocrisy from Apologia in this one. I really don’t know what the objective of this video was. Ditch the Hammurabi Code fellas.
The laws covering children in the womb are conflicting. If a woman on her way to get an abortion gets in an car accident with a Drunk Driver and the child is killed in the womb the drunk driver can be charged with killing the child. Yet if the mother of the child happens to avoid the Drunk driver and gets an abortion the child dies and it is perfectly legal. That doesn't make sense.
apologia look like worldly hipsters
It's so sad to see that these well-intentioned Calvinists think that Catholicism is false, and thus many instead of studying the arguments for Catholicism try to convert weak Catholics who also don't know much about the Faith.
What's even more sad is that their doctrine is evil. The idea that Christ did not die for everyone due to some loophole they made about "God not failing to save anyone He died for" makes God into a programmer who sets us up like robots, choosing which ones He hates and which he will reward.
I pray that all Protestant sects will come to the knowledge of the true faith, and see that the errors on justification they hold come from misconceptions on what "works of law" means, what John 6 talks about with reference to enteral security, and that they will abandon the non-apostolic tradition of Calvin, and the rest of the blasphemers.
"God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.
If have ever read the book of Acts and the epistles, you will notice that the original church was not anything like Roman Catholicism.
The Roman Catholic Church teaches many doctrines that are in disagreement with what the Bible declares. These include apostolic succession, worship of saints or Mary, prayer to saints or Mary, the pope / papacy, infant baptism, transubstantiation, plenary indulgences, the sacramental system, and purgatory. While Catholics claim Scriptural support for these concepts, none of these teachings have any solid foundation in the clear teaching of Scripture. These concepts are based on Catholic tradition, not the Word of God. In fact, they all clearly contradict Biblical principles.
The most crucial problem with the Roman Catholic Church is its belief that faith alone in Christ is not sufficient for salvation. The Bible clearly and consistently states that receiving Jesus Christ as Savior, by grace through faith, grants salvation (John 1:12; 3:16,18,36; Acts 16:31; Romans 10:9-10,13; Ephesians 2:8-9). The Roman Catholic Church rejects this. The official position of the Roman Catholic Church is that a person must believe in Jesus Christ AND be baptized AND receive the Eucharist along with the other sacraments AND obey the decrees of the Roman Catholic Church AND perform meritorious works AND not die with any mortal sins AND etc., etc., etc. Catholic divergence from the Bible on this most crucial of issues, salvation, means that yes, Catholicism is a false religion. If a person believes what the Catholic Church officially teaches, he/she will not be saved. Any claim that works or rituals must be added to faith in order for salvation to be achieved is a claim that Jesus’ death was not sufficient to fully purchase our salvation.
www.gotquestions.org/catholicism.html
Faye Lewis
You lost me at "worship of saints or Mary". This is what I'm talking about. This is a common misconception of Catholicism, and you need to see that not everything you're told online is true. You need to research Catholic sources to find out what Catholicism teaches.
With regard to salvation, the reason we teach that you must obey the commandments is that the Bible says that those who break them will not be saved, unless they repent.
Same with faith and works, many Protestants confuse the Catholic teaching of it. We say that faith that is working through charity is sufficient for salvation, but Protestants deny this, instead they say that faith inevitably produces good works, but that good works don't perfect our faith so that it's sufficient. This is a direct contradiction of James 2:22.
We agree that works of the law have nothing to do with salvation, that's why we don't practice circumcision or any of the laws of the OT. That's why St. Paul said in the next verse (Romans 3:29) "For is God the God of the Jews only? Or of the Gentiles also?".
I highly recommend the following sites for you to see what Catholicism REALLY teaches, and the arguments for Catholicism:
scripturecatholic.com
catholic.com
Well God's word would disagree with you, read Romans 9 friend. God bless.
Faye Lewis - Catholics do not worship Mary, we venerate her and treat her as our Mother since Jesus gave her to us at the cross.
Second, apostolic succession is biblical - when Jesus told Peter “on this rock (Peter = Rock) I will build my church” ... and “ whose sins you forgive are forgiven in heaven ...”
As for transubstantiation, there are numerous Eucharistic miracles through which Jesus has shown us the mere host is in fact his body, and not just any part, but the most important - his heart. Remember the Lord Jesus also said - “Unless you eat my body and drink my blood ...” many in his time found this hard to remember and it seems so for you too ... so watch out.
Please study Catholic teaching in more depth before generalizing your argument in a single comment.
Peace 🙏
@@gavindmello you aren't exegeting this rock correctly
Thank God for that catholic guy!
"ABORTION" is the only murder that you will not be sentence to prison for.
+ murder of animals
It's likely this man has never heard of theonomy (neither has 99% of Protestants I speak to) and has no idea where your trying to lead the conversation although it seems like he would have ears to hear. (Unlike a lot of Christians I talk to)
Amen!
I hate when “Christians” act like a snake in the grass to the watching world. We’re to be Wise like a serpent, and yes for sure this evangelist is, but also kind like a dove, and this guy is not acting as such...Why are you digging? Why are you looking to cause this guy to slip up? It’s not wonder why the “world” hates Christians... if you understood that prior to getting saved, you were just as this man, possibly worse, or that any “lost soul” needed Jesus and you did NOTHING to gain salvation, but through the grace of god , he saved you. You may have a tender heart towards the lost and not seek ways to trip others up, to showcase your “knowledge”.
Is sodomy within marriage a sin?
Yes.
Do we consider Catholics brothers in Christ?
Not sure on the Protestant side. But in the Catholic Church, we consider you (protestants) our brothers and sisters in Christ. God bless you, @J Mach. if you have any questions about the Catholic Church, id recommend you go to Catholic.com and search on the website Catholic answers or listen to the podcast catholic answers.
matthew frijo Except for the fact that they are heretical. Unfortunately they are clueless to this and believe we worship idols and say we aren’t Christian when we are the original Christians.
@@natlogan79 I see that the struggle and minds come from both sides of the isle.
Unfortunately blanket statements are thrown on both sides.
Not the number of comments 666, lets go ahead and make it 667😂
Correction to have saints is sacrilegious as the only person you should be asking for guidance love or anything else is Jesus Christ
So, you never ask anyone else to pray for you? Jesus is the only mediator between God and man, right?
You are gravely mistaken, St. Paul says that we must make intercessions for all men. We are Christ's Body.
Saints can pray for us.
@we thepeople
The problem has never been priests, or else God wouldn't have created the problem himself directly by institutionalized religion in the Old Testament, and I doubt you're a Gnostic heretic. The problem is misuse of power, which of course boils down to human nature.
But as stated by Jesus himself in Matthew 23: 1-3 we will always be obligated to render submission regardless of corruption.
Yesterday it was Adam, today it is the New Adam Jesus Christ, yesterday it was King David, today it is the davidic King-Christ, yesterday it was the chair(cathedra) of Moses, today it is the chair of St. Peter.
There is A LOT to say so please just go to this link here, I wrote the article.
You can also look up "Destynation Y" and you'll see I recently had a public and formal debate on this issue with a Protestant.
christiantheorist.weebly.com/basics-of-the-holy-faith/category/01-the-church-of-jesus-the-christ-is-one
Destynation Y Formal debate? Are you talking about with RCA??
How is asking a fellow Christian to pray for you sacrilegious? Are you even a Christian?
Of course there should be repercussions, but until abortion is criminalized there can’t be. I’m not sure the benefit of this question in the grand scheme.
God states he knew you in your mothers womb...so God declares life at conception. So abortion is wrong...God forgives people who had abortion. But there are consequences. ..
What if the woman will die due to the developing fetus. That means not only is the woman going to die but since the mother dies the foetus won't survive too. Work in a hospital and you'll see why abortion may be an option in some cases. Get of your high horse, you probably eat shell fish and wear cotton you hypocrite
What did god say ? .he said the woman was with child What is the correct age to kill a child? Maybe 2 months .6 months.9 months or 24 months old.It is always a blessing to have a baby.I love even little dogs and pet animals
I pray these catholic idolaters wake up and realize the depravity of their false doctrine. I was blessed out of Catholicism and now see the truth of the idol worshipping and praying to the dead or necromancy.
Has the questioner considered that there are two people who have created that baby. I disagree absolutely with abortion but don't just jump on the woman. They are living in a society that allows it and if something is common it becomes easier to justify it . Also have you not considered that many women are pressurised by family,friends, father,parents. I would hope that more men would accept responsibility for preventing pregnancy and take action to avoid it
I would like to say this with respect, as we are all christian brothers and sisters. If you believe that we should uphold the punishments of the law for murder, we should uphold the law for adultery, for cursing their mother and father, for homosexual intercourse (leviticus 20). The punishment for these things are also death. If you uphold the punishment for murder, you must uphold the death penalty for adultery, for cursing your mother and father, and for those who engage in sexual immorality. Paul was also a murderer of Christians. He persecuted the Christian church. Under law he should have been put to death for this. He was shown mercy. I think God is the ultimate judge of all. Everyone who is not in Christ will receive the due punishment for everything they have done.
Jesus comforted the sinner, he comforted the woman at the well who married so many men and was with a man that was not her husband. He never condemned them to capital punishment. And I don't think we should to. Any thoughts on this? Just my ramblings.
Leviticus 19:15
"You shall do no injustice in court. You shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great, but in righteousness shall you judge your neighbor.
Should we not uphold this command since we are picking and choosing here?
Jesus was sentenced to capital punishment for all of our sins, because God is just, God is righteous and He does not show partiality to one over another. Ceremonial laws and civil laws that pertain to the governing of God's covenant people don't carry over to us. They were for a specific purpose, for a specific people, for a specific time. The Moral law summarized in the 10 commandments is for all time and all people it is written on our hearts, we know when we violate it. Capital punishment for murder is just. Capital punishment for rape is just. The rape victim and society doesn't have to pay room and board for the murderer or the rapist thus being victimized along with the actual victims of the original crimes. And we can give the perpetrator the gospel so they have the hope of eternal life if they repent and believe. The punishment should fit the crime, that is actual social justice(righteousness).
A Catholic is a Christian before he or she is a Catholic. It seems like the cool thing to bash Catholics atm then feel superior and not see the hypocrisy. And no, we don't pray to Mary. If you bothered to actually speak to a catholic priest you'd understand. We pray to no one but God and we also ask that our friends and neighbours pray for us and our families.
"A Catholic is a Christian before he or she is a Catholic." No, that doesn't make sense. A person who is baptized into the Catholic Church is a Catholic and there is no difference between being a Catholic and being a Christian. The Catholic religion is the authentic Christian religion. There is no authentic Christian faith or identity apart from Catholic faith and identity. And we do pray to Mary. The act of asking someone in heaven for help is prayer to that person. And we don't just ask Mary to pray for us, we also honor and praise her in the Hail Mary and other Marian prayers, in litanies, novenas, masses. The claim that we don't pray to Mary is not a teaching of the Church, it is a claim recently stated by some Catholic apologists to appease protestants.
Catholic and Christian are synonymous.
@Taylor Rowe There is no Christian before Catholic. Christ established the Catholic Church and religion. He didn't teach a gospel that is independent of them. The Christian religion is the Catholic religion. Belief in the Catholic Church is a fundamental article of Christian faith, which is why it is professed in the apostles' creed.
“Concerning this Holy Catholic Church Paul writes to Timothy, ‘That thou mayest know haw thou oughtest to behave thyself in the House of God, which is the Church of the Living God, the pillar and ground of the truth’” Cyril of Jerusalem, Catechetical Lectures,18:25 (A.D. 350).
“The Article, In one Holy Catholic Church,’ on which, though one might say many things, we will speak but briefly. It is called Catholic then because it extends over all the world, from one end of the earth to the other; and because it teaches universally and completely one and all the doctrines which ought to come to men’s knowledge, concerning things both visible and invisible, heavenly and earthly… for this cause the Faith has securely delivered to thee now the Article, And in one Holy Catholic Church;’ that thou mayest avoid their wretched meetings, and ever abide with the Holy Church Catholic in which thou wast regenerated. And if ever thou art sojourning in cities, inquire not simply where the Lord’s House is (for the other sects of the profane also attempt to call their own dens houses of the Lord), nor merely where the Church is, but where is the Catholic Church. For this is the peculiar name of this Holy Church, the mother of us all, which is the spouse of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Only-begotten Son of God.” Cyril of Jerusalem, Catechetical Lectures, 18:23,26 (A.D. 350).
“We must hold to the Christian religion and to communication in her Church, which is Catholic and which is called Catholic not only by her own members but even by all her enemies. For when heretics or the adherents of schisms talk about her, not among themselves but with strangers, willy-nilly they call her nothing else but Catholic. For they will not be understood unless they distinguish her by this name which the whole world employs in her regard.” Augustine, The True Religion, 7:12 (A.D. 390).
@Taylor Rowe "We can NOT EARN OUR WAY TO HEAVEN AND THAT ISN'T A CATHOLIC TEACHING. It was a false heresy from the corrupt middle ages popes,"
No it was never a heresy. The Church and scripture teach that good works have merit before God and are necessary for salvation, and that salvation is a reward for doing good as well as a gift and and inheritance.
For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels: and then will he render to every man according to his works.
[Matthew 16:27]
And they that have done good things, shall come forth unto the resurrection of life; but they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment.
[John 5:29]
To them indeed, who according to patience in good work, seek glory and honour and incorruption, eternal life:
[Romans 2:7]
Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only?
[James 2:24]
Catechism: 2010 Since the initiative belongs to God in the order of grace, no one can merit the initial grace of forgiveness and justification, at the beginning of conversion. Moved by the Holy Spirit and by charity, we can then merit for ourselves and for others the graces needed for our sanctification, for the increase of grace and charity, and for the attainment of eternal life. Even temporal goods like health and friendship can be merited in accordance with God's wisdom. These graces and goods are the object of Christian prayer. Prayer attends to the grace we need for meritorious actions.
The interviewer has very poor theology.
We’ll done, yellow jacket Catholic guy.
@taylorrowe2002Gotta be honest, I’m not sure what your reply had to do with my comment.
@taylorrowe2002 Ok, so why are you screaming at me? Yes, there have always been people in the Church who don’t perfectly understand every aspect of Church teachings. What does that have to do with this guy’s defense of life and opposition to abortion?
@taylorrowe2002 All caps and dozens of !!!!!!!! are indeed “screaming”. No need for that, or for spamming everyone with your generalizations and condemnations of people you don’t know.
@taylorrowe2002 Seems like quite a leap to judge a person that harshly while knowing so little about them.
@taylorrowe2002 I don’t disagree with you that there are many people out there who don’t know, don’t care, and/or reject Jesus. There are many lukewarm Catholics.
But… there are more effective ways to share that message than by screaming at random people on social media. You sound a little bit hysterical, not gonna lie.
Apologia didn't do anything wrong, there's no traps, no deception, he just wants to reaffirm the man that abortion should be judged by the Word of God. And also knows the Gospel. The man in yellow was not offended, this was just a friendly chat, they are both on the same page.
I am not understanding where this is going and why he is attacking a Catholic. He has the same pro-life perspective, seems like he is having a Bible Battle to increase his ego. The Pope hasn't changed any Catholic teaching about capital punishment. It is being discussed but he cannot change 2000 years of Catholic doctrine. He should read church fathers writings and years of Catholic doctrine, does not say to ban capital punishment. Also, if we turn to Bible. The Bible, also allows genocides, should not prescribe Bible literary all the time. Zachary does not seem to have a heart of mercy, even Jesus forgave Saul and change him to Paul. The Roman Catholic was just saying that capital punishment should be judge case by case and carefully. I agree abortion is murder and a grievous sin, and should be made illegal. Until then keep up the pro-life movement, preach repentance and mercy. God Bless.
The catholic church is false. The popes have written their own scriptures many time. Right now coexist is extremely Satanic and literally goes against written scripture in the bible. The pope is not a vicar of God, he literally holds a false position for himself. The bible doesn't support genocide. It supported death sentence, even for a nation. "The bible cannot be taken literally." Everywhere true it can. When Moses and Jacob were commanded to utterly destroy a place it was God's will for the time. This can be applied literally, because it was relevant to the time. I don't believe the entire bible can taken as truth though.
@Sophia Macken
Protestants, many of them, have a Reformation complex. When they see a Catholic it's like they get a flash back of Luther going up against the Catholic Church.
They cannot just be humble for a second and realize that not only do they disagree with Catholics, they also disagree with nearly every other Protestant including Luther, Calvin and Zwingli who all believed in the perpetual virginity of Mary.
Luther didn't think James and Revelation were part of the Bible, and Calvin thought Baruch was part of the Old Testament.
It's confusion upon confusion.
*Christianity Today:*
Catholicism(substance) 52%
Protestantism(element)30%
Orthodoxy(element)18%
Catholicism is monarchial, Orthodoxy is democratic, and Protestantism of course is anarchical.
The Church founded by Jesus Christ, called the KINGDOM of God, is the Catholic Church.
Pope should be worrying about his homosexual priests. Roman Catholicism needs to be gutted from its false doctrine all the way down...
Wait wait wait hold on. So the Old Covenant prescribed a punishment for a crime and we must maintain it? What about the crime for adultery, the punishment is also death. But Jesus said that in the New Covenant that we cannot throw a stone unless we have not sinned. Was David free of sin? Did he murder? Did he commit adultery? God worked with him and created a kingdom. Paul tortured and probably killed Christians, should we have killed him? Idk about the death penalty but it doesn't seem like an easy decision whether or not we should have it, but that would be Catholic.
Warp Stabilizer much? lololol
Bizzare to see and hear a Calvinist trying to stop unsaved women killing their babies which they conceived during their lifetimes, and yet Calvinism believes God predestinated before time began women who have abortions not only to fall pregnant but then arranges to have the abortion. Inconsistent theology and activity on the part of the Calvinist. And no sharing the gospel with this lost and deceived Catholic either? Maybe this missed witness was also predestinated before the world began!
Well he is correct life does begin at the moment of conception to end that life is murder. But I noticed something about the guy in the yellow vest that says he's a Catholic he is wearing a Rosary I question this because a Rosary is a tool used for prayer and meditation. Now some people wear Rosaries as a sign of their faith but many Catholics such as myself see wearing a Rosary as sacrilegious. It has become so common for people to wear Rosaries as jewelry.
Do you guys smell like Bible and holy spirit?
hate love nothing yes
why does this channel act like it’s an atheist channel?
Because it debunks religion
Samuel.S it debunks False religion
It debunks man made religion... false gospel, etc.
Case in point: mormonism, Jehova witnesses, and now even catholicism (this one clearly is much closer, but it still professes salvation by works, idols, praying to saints and not God through Jesus alone, wont accept that scripture is the sole authorative source of knowledge from God and not popes, etc.)
Reformation complex frankly. Please look up SHAMELESS popery to get answers to all their ridiculous claims, I'm a former Protestant btw.
Zach wants his pound if flesh.
I think you took advantage of him not having English as his first language. Shame on you.
It seems that you did not watch the same video as I did.
@@scvilla311 Or maybe you need to watch it again?
Wow ! 98% of this commentators totally missed the mark.
You two in the video, y’all were awesome 👏 it’s great to see two man being pro-life, respectfully, sincerely and agreeable,
Just a couple of ??? for the commentators
#1 where is the attack?
#2 how was he rude to Steward?
#3 are catholic that gullible/unable to defend their faith ( which that is what you all are attacking the other guy about) without sending
The Christian to a priest,
#4 all this video was about “trying “ to show Steward that murder is a ticket to human law. Knowing or not knowing that, that is a human being in their body, why is he “snaking” Steward? Just for rephrasing the question;
#5 how many women would you know, that does NOT know that a pregnancy is a child 👶?
(God’s law is for the unborn child, “eternal death” UNLESS there’s true repentance and believe achievable thru Jesus Christ)
But what this guy is saying there still should be human law punishment for abortion. That is all he was trying to point.
Steward knows what is right and wrong except he sways depending on where the wind blows.
Hoops! Y’all probably not going to get this either 🤔🤔🤔
Death penalty or long jail sentence should be the penalty for baby murder.If they know this is the consequences,then maybe it would make them think about making a baby to begin with.
what if they repent and become a sister in christ? One you in good conscience support the death of someone who has turned away from their evil sin? We find freedom in the gospel not condemnation.