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U did amazing! Bottom line is he wants to keep his sin and he's trying to justify it. Homosexuality is a sin and it clearly says DO NOT BE DECIEVED! that they won't enter the kingdom along with others
Let us pray for this young man. As a former homosexual, who was "married" for 5 years to another man, I was caught in the same spiritual and theological darkness.... 8 Years clean and born again by the power of the Holy Spirit, there is still a lot of hope for him and others still blinded by these lies. Pray, pray and pray. Share the truth of the Scriptures with him, just keep on! Those that were upfront with me from the start and remained loving but firm with the Truth played a huge role in Jesus opening my eyes. Sola Deo Gloria!!!!
Reading your comment re-strengthens me to keep praying for my sister in law. Having contact with her is pretty much impossible for several reasons but it's the very least I can do.
This video proves, categorically, what I've been saying about liberal/LGBT theology forever now -- they're not seeking repentance, they're seeking validation.
I’ve been saying the same! I also believe their conscience is being convicted and they are struggling tremendously with it, so much so that the lgbtq society they have created isn’t so much about convincing us they were “created” like that, but to convince themselves in hopes it will quiet their conscience. It won’t, only humbly going to the Lord in complete repentance and placing your faith in Jesus will remove the conviction of your conscience! It will also only remove it until you sin again and then it will be back. That’s what they meant by the law being written on our hearts! Take care and God Bless!
Then you don’t know what the Greek work, repent/metanioa means. You just believe what reformed theology tells you it means. Which is the great Spand of church history, the reformation is pretty recent.
They’re seeking deliverance. God is not a respecter of persons. God has parted the Red Sea for a whole community of people & the church is missing it. So sad. God purify our hearts so we can see YOU.
To be fair, it is possible to hold a subjective opinion about morality (hence the words “I think…”) while not claiming to have unfettered access to infallible knowledge of objective moral standards.
It’s tough at times but as someone who struggles with same sex attraction, I have chosen to pick up cross and deny myself daily. My identity is in Christ and not in what a small part of me feels. It’s a walk every day, but God does lighten the load and I have never felt closer to my creator. I tried so hard to justify the lifestyle but my conviction has lead me to where I am now. My heart goes out to all who struggle with SSA. You’re not alone, you’re not seen as less than in the eyes of God. Pray to him, he wants to hear from you ❤ For reasons that we may never fully understand, I believe that God calls some of us to be single. His plan for me can certainly change because he is in control of all things, but in the mean time, I am being fulfilled in my walk with him.
Amen brutha! I struggle too, and GOD has been faithful to me my whole life! Even before I got saved! By the grace of GOD I never went into the lifestyle, but the struggle is real. This dude Brandon is so deceived it ain't funny! Satanic deception ain't no joke! It well lead you straight to hell! The Bible calls it "strong delusion" in 2 THESSALONIANS. SELAH. GOD bless you man. Pray for me, as I pray for you!
Praying for you brother!! 🙏🏼 thank you for your transparency!! It needs to be talked about! It's sin struggle just like all of us struggle. Some sin is harder than others but God sees sin as sin! Shalom brother!!
Praise God!! Walk by the spirit and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh my friend. Remain close to Jesus and his ways and the enemy will flee from you.
Praise God and thank you for being vulnerable to share your struggles! You are living proof people can and DO live with it and stay true to God. We can't let sin define ourselves.
My first reaction toward Brandon’s theology was anger and spite. Quickly after I was moved to compassion and teared up realizing this is how I must have sounded and looked in the eyes of God prior to my call to repentance. Praying for Brandon.
Same! I get so angry even righteously so at how he handles scripture and yet…his disrespectful bent against God brings me to tears as I think how close I was to following Rob Bell and how grateful I am God plucked me and pruned me from that and deepened my love for scripture
That was awesome!!! I felt the same way when I watched a smidge of one of his videos. I also was saved from new age Jesus thinking! Love the name by the way!!
I grew up in a progressive christian church. I attended until I was 15 and let me tell you, those progressives were some of the kindest and least problematic people I ever met. To this day I have not found a church family as kind and genuinely welcoming as they are. However, as a teen I realized the cracks in their theology as the Spirit began to convict me when I attended service. I could literally feel something was wrong and I did not know what exactly because all I knew was liberal theology/progressivism. I was taught as a child that conservatives were evil people who want to molest me and judge me. It is no wonder I believed what I was told, it was extremely indoctrinating. However as a teen in my christian high school I learned from one of my teachers freshman year something I would never forget, "If you can find any contradiction in the Bible then forget the faith altogether because then it has no authority." It shocked me because I was taught that contradictions were normal and now I was learning that there were actually no contradictions if you read it correctly. Although my family is quite liberal, I still love them, as well as the people at that old church. However, I am definitely conservative now and I am so grateful to God he saved me from that progressive false gospel.
I think it’s interesting that you were told that conservatives would molest you when many conservatives think liberals are or are protecting pedophiles. It’s just interesting to see a generalized view that both sides have of each other
I don’t find it shocking at all that those people were ‘appearing’ as the kindest and least problematic. When you agree with everyone, what is there to disagree on? However, at the end of the day, being agreeable IS problematic and unkind when it doesn’t align with the truth of scripture. Jesus says “they will hate you because of me.” We should be worried if we are not in opposition with a broken fallen world.
Such good testimonies on here (yours included). I want to write mine, but there is so much to write about THE ALMIGHTY; I don't even know where to begin. But I do know GOD GOT ME TO WHERE I AM NOW, AND I CANT TURN BACK TO WHO I USE TO BE. I know too much and I know HIS sovereignty is GOOD FOR ME.
The way Brandon switched from "a follower of Christ" to "identifies as a follower of Christ" mid-sentence was more telling than he could have possibly put into words.
I Caught That Too. He is a false teacher and an antichrist who is doing the desires of his father The Devil. Not trying to Judge but he sounds like a Vessel of Wrath God has prepared for destruction.
Every time I hear someone say "identifies" I know debate is useless since that person does not believe in truth. If you don't believe God, that created the whole universe from nothing, can keep His word in order and exactly how He wants it, then how will you ever find HIS truth? This Brandon is not only willfully blind, but is also leading the lost with him. Scary!
6:55 and his answer is: "I would say I would be in alignment with a majority of other people." the debates over... this in itself ends the interview. he admits not to being christian by going with an idea because he believes most people and not simply acknowledge what is truly the truth. 2 boys don't make a baby, neither does 2 girls.
@@eriktheprayer LMAO You should be ashamed of yourself for defending a book that promotes slavery mass genocide and and eternal torture for a finite crime.
I was a lesbian and was still married to my ex when I walked into my church. I was struggling with being a Christian and being gay and wanted both things. Until one night in my room crying out to God about it and he convinced me of my sin, I cried and cried and begged for forgiveness and asked Him to change me. I am now not attracted to women. Saying this I know and have watched testimonies of people still having the attraction to the same sex but are celibate due to their love for Jesus. The same as if you lied before giving your life to Jesus you continue to give the sin to God and repent to walk out your salvation (if you are still lying) for example, we are not all changed of all the past at the moment of conversion. Transformation can take a long time and we aren't perfect till we are with the Lord! Hope this makes sense 🙏🏼
Exactly. That’s why the whole “why would God let me have these desires if it was a sin?” Type arguments. I’m “naturally” attracted/lustful of women. That doesn’t mean it’s not sin and I shouldn’t fight it. I naturally want to lie of it I think it will benefit me, but it’s still a sin and I should run from it. So just bc some people are attracted to the same sex, doesn’t mean it’s not a sin and you shouldn’t fight it.
Well, you christians do the same, you cherry pick the nice verses or those of fire and brimnstone ignoring those were your God orders to commit genocides or condobes slavery
My heart breaks for this man, Brandon. I will pray for him. I've been a pastor for 30 years. I pastor a small rural church. I feel sorry for those who manipulate the world of God to justify their sin as this man clearly does. He has invented a god he feels comfortable with that he may justify his sin. He has no idea who God is, a God who is Holy and he will have to reckon with in the end. Pray for pastors Jeff and James as they fight these battles in such a public way. They are in the devil's crosshairs. Sola Deo Gloria!
This may sound weird, but couple days ago I had a dream and I was chanting something that at one point I got confuse of what I was trying to said on my dream…and I think I was saying “Soli Deo, Soli deo, Soli Deo” keep in mind not sure and I don’t even what does that mean.
Exactly. We are living in the days now where ALOT of people have succumbed to a reprobate mindset. People are now thinking the bad is good and the good is bad. In all of MY 51 yrs, on this Earth I have never seen so many confused people. It is really sad,and the ONLY consolation i have in this world of madness is that Jesus said these things were going to happen. He proclaimed it. Recently, i did a post on quora and they took it down because I said there are ONLY two sexes, male and female. Period. The site called it "homophobic" so, now I'm homophobic for saying something that we ALL know is true. Wow.
What happens afterwards? I’ve been meaning to ask what happens once you’re saved.. especially being married to the same-sex. Not trying to be mean or rude, just honestly want to know. God bless you and anyone else who came to him, even those who never did or haven’t yet.
@@adrianaamado473 The word homosexual was never mentioned in the original Bible. In the Original Greek and Hebrew texts the word that is now translated to homosexual actually accurately translates to a pedophile or boy abuser or boy molester. That is according to the Bible homosexuality is not a sin child molesting is. The ancient word condoned and encourage a system of pedastry-sexual relationships between an adult (old) man and a young boy 8-12 years old. According to Theologian Ed Oxford Ancient Greek Documents show us how even parents utilize this abusive system to help their sons advance in society. For most of history, these verses were interpreted to be obviously referring to the pedastry, not homosexuality. In summary, the original Bible condemned pedastry, not homosexuality. The shift to attacking homosexuality in the 1980’s is not only a calculated attack on queer folks that came during a critical period for us (Think the AIDS epidemic) but is also disgustingly ironic coming from an institution with nearly 6000 (old) clergymen charged with sexual assault of young boys.They think they are covering something up? Hard to argue otherwise here’s the timeline. 1534: Martin Luther’s original German translation includes ‘Knabenschander’, which means boy molester. 1800’s: A German Bible reads, ‘Man shall not lie with young boys as he does with a woman for it is an abomination, (Leviticus 18-22) and reads, ‘Boy molesters will not inherit the kingdom of God’ (1 Corinthians). 1892: The Germans created the word homosexual. 1983: The American company Bilblica pays for an updated German Bible that uses the word homosexual instead of ‘boy molesters’. This was later put into the English Bible which read ‘Mam shall not lie with man, for it is an abomination.
@@babiiesha1 The word homosexual was never mentioned in the original Bible. In the Original Greek and Hebrew texts the word that is now translated to homosexual actually accurately translates to a pedophile or boy abuser or boy molester. That is according to the Bible homosexuality is not a sin child molesting is. The ancient word condoned and encourage a system of pedastry-sexual relationships between an adult (old) man and a young boy 8-12 years old. According to Theologian Ed Oxford Ancient Greek Documents show us how even parents utilize this abusive system to help their sons advance in society. For most of history, these verses were interpreted to be obviously referring to the pedastry, not homosexuality. In summary, the original Bible condemned pedastry, not homosexuality. The shift to attacking homosexuality in the 1980’s is not only a calculated attack on queer folks that came during a critical period for us (Think the AIDS epidemic) but is also disgustingly ironic coming from an institution with nearly 6000 (old) clergymen charged with sexual assault of young boys.They think they are covering something up? Hard to argue otherwise here’s the timeline. 1534: Martin Luther’s original German translation includes ‘Knabenschander’, which means boy molester. 1800’s: A German Bible reads, ‘Man shall not lie with young boys as he does with a woman for it is an abomination, (Leviticus 18-22) and reads, ‘Boy molesters will not inherit the kingdom of God’ (1 Corinthians). 1892: The Germans created the word homosexual. 1983: The American company Bilblica pays for an updated German Bible that uses the word homosexual instead of ‘boy molesters’. This was later put into the English Bible which read ‘Mam shall not lie with man, for it is an abomination.
@@thisbtchisraginghomosexual1655sex outside marriage is a sin period. So I don’t understand how sexual interaction between two men or two woman is not sinful?
I was a homosexual. I was tormented and wanted to die. I knew it wasn’t right but was fooled into thinking I could not be free. But I had an encounter with Jesus. I fell in love with Him and truly repented. It took work but, I saw the truth and He brought light into my life. I am married and have 3 beautiful children and we serve God. I was also freed from cocaine addiction. GOD CAN DO ANYTHING!!!!! May God have mercy on this guy. Also you all spoke with so much love and patience 💯
I love how Brandon comes out and says straight off that he's a heretic. Boom, no need for debate. He says he doesn't believe in the Word of God. He's not a Christian. He's a false prophet.
It'd a weird thing, claiming to see he is unaware of how blind he is, it boggles my mind the weird mental gymnastics he stumbles over trying to claim he is Christian.
I lived like this for most of my life. Saved in my teens and then lived my life in the LGBT community professing my faith in Jesus but picking and choosing what I wanted out of the Bible…. 2 years ago I read Revelation 22:18-21 and it was like God slapped me across the face and redeemed me from my fleshly desires! Praise God for His love, mercy and grace for all of us.
Wow that’s amazing. You must preach to that community now. You cannot forsake this obligation. Praying for you and that you can lead more homosexuals to repentance and save them from eternal damnation.
That's awesome but for clarification the book of Revelation is a single book and those verses are specifically referring to anyone that alters it, not what would become The Bible hundreds of years later Edit - Okay, I could see how it is still relevant to homosexual behavior. I thought you were referring to OT law.
@JO you can believe or reject it. But you cannot choose the eternal consequences of your rejection of Christ, a flaming Hell of torment for your sins against a Holy God. Repent and Believe the Gospel. 2 Corinthians 5:20-21, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
It is sad and downright scary to see the lengths someone is willing to go in self-delusion, twisting/perverting Scripture, and arbitrary contextual argument, to justify their sexual sin. What's even more scary is that this person is leading others down the path of destruction....
One thing that is sad is that he truly is apostate, having learned the truth he rejected it and now it very much looks like God has given him over, I can honestly say I've never seen anyone like this. Most of the prosperity preachers seem like wolves in sheep clothing, but I don't think they ever believed the truth. This brandon guy is on a whole other level and it is weird to witness.
Listen!!! No one is spending all that time and money and admitting is was for a lie and waste. His position of authority is a mud slide. We need to plead with God for this man, because wow.
His entire argument stems from a point of view that scripture isnt the ETERNAL Word of God, rather it is cultural, thus its meaning is dictated by the ebbs and flow of what is culturally acceptable.
It's actually a sign of the demonic, chaotic thinking and speaking, a lack of reason and a resistance to the truth. That's how you know demons are behind something or someone
@6:00 (perhaps there is) subjective @6:03 (I don't believe) subjective @6:07 (I don't think) subjective @6:12 (I... don't think) subjective @7:20 (I don't believe) subjective @8:02 (I believe) subjective @9:34 (I think) subjective @9:42 (I don't think) subjective @15:19 (I think) subjective @18:14 (I would argue) subjecting @18:54 (...I think) subjectice @19:01 (I think) subjecting @19:08 ("Isaiah 53 is not about Jesus") @20:11 ("Writer Hebrews problematic") @28:57 ("how I define sin) subjective @38:08 (I don't think) subjective @38:16 ("I believe") subjective @58:52 (I think) subjective @58:56 (I don't believe) subjective @1:01:42 (I don't believe) subjective @1:01:45 (I don't believe) subjective @1:02:05 *Admits homosexuality does not bring life* *• 19 subjective statements* *• Contradicts scripture (Satan's tactic in Genesis)* *• Rejects scripture (rebellion/witchcraft)* *• Denies infallibility of Scripture* *• Calls evil good and good evil (Woe/Severe warning of destruction over such as do this)*
@46:55 ( I am helping myself) @47:51 ( couples things first of all you twisted scripture) @50:23 (you aren't using the plain reading of the time I'm reading the text no you are because you're not noticing)
This comment! I came away from this with so much sadness about the move away from God’s word but an insistence to hold on to that Jesus in their own image. Maranatha!
You couldn't have said it better, I think the scariest and worst part of our job as christains is when we do share the Gospel, THIS specific theology alone that Brandan uses is so messed up, people would use to rebuttal or reject it, it's literally the scariest because it screams "NO" to the Gospel and opportunity to repent and believe. This is so out there, and so distorted, that he reduces objective truth down to an impossibility, mixed with new age and sinful lifestyle, that people like him reject the Gospel flat out, and distort it with "sly words" to the point of a disgusting crutch of philosophy, as if he and those who carry this figured it out without figuring it out. The claim that subjective truth leads to objective truth "one day" is simply called ignorance carried through deception. Nevertheless. I will still pray for Brandan that he gets knocked off his horse and scales are lifted off his eyes before it's too late.... Idk. This is false teaching at its peak.
"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness, who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter."
Sister that won’t do anything. One of the things they’ve noticed in the interview and his previous video post is that he’s already blaspheming the Holy Spirit. He has even gone so far as to claim that Jesus repented of sin. If you remember the Pharisees criticizing Jesus saying that he cast out demons with the power of the devil, Brandon has done similar with his rhetoric. His sin is unforgivable hence the reason he is classified as apostate. He won’t be able to come back from this. His decision is no different than choosing the Mark of the beast. As sad as it is, his fate is sealed.
Except for the part of the discussion from about 9:00 to 26:00 where Jeff and James try to present the fundamentalist approach to scripture as comporting with the methodologies applied to exegeting scripture by modern biblical scholarship.
@@paulallenscards lol wait… What part of the methodology of exegesis was “modern?” Reading the Koine Greek original language is a new thing apparently…who knew?!
@@paulallenscards So you’re saying that modern interpretation is incorrect because it’s modern? What if you were shown ancient Christian exegesis that condemned homosexuality just like “fundamentalist” interpretation does? Would that cause you to change your mind?
Whenever someone repeatedly states “I think” followed by their opinion, you know it’s based on subjective evidence. This dude is so lost, and we didn’t even hear his take on abortion. Great work Dr. White and Pastor Jeff.
Robertson clearly states at 6:00 that "perhaps there is a moral standard, but I don't believe we can know it objectively" then spends the rest of the debate claiming he didn't say that.
“They had 13 words for homosexuality because it was way more common!” “They had no concept of sexuality at that time!” -both comments made by Branden during thins video…
When God made Adam the dust of the earth he made him suitable to receive from the earth, food and air. When we take in food and air it brings forth life. When God took Adam and made Eve from his rib she is made to receive from Adam sexually and that brings forth life (baby). When god breathed into Adam's nostrils, Adam was made to receive spirituality from God and that brings forth life. LGBTQ tries to pervert the suitability of taking from one thing to make another thing and how they're suitable to one another. The thing made from another thing then receives from that and it brings forth life.
@@Nandat3675 Yeah, millions confused because of him...The only way to twist the word so effectively is to understand the truth of the word - like Satan. "For it is better some of you not be teachers" He didn't heed the warning, he will be responsible for what he's doing, and it will be just...When I read that verse I was convicted and God-fear was put into my heart, I'd be terrified if I were him, but instead he's proud. I doubt this is a mistake, so much as intention.
I can’t feel sorry for anyone who willfully blasphemes God and chooses to align himself with Satan, all while cherry-picking God’s Holy Word. He has been warned, in love, to repent. Jesus died for him and gave him a choice. Even Jesus said how bad it will be for anyone who misleads someone by preaching a false gospel.
@@melissaculpepper7663 All true, and unless he repents he will suffer the consequences of a just and righteous God. Even so, I feel compassion for him and will pray for him. And if he doesn't repent and change his ways, he will richly deserve whatever judgement befalls him.
I don't pretend to know the mind of the Lord to instruct him. So i'm not even trying to say what the Lord will do about Brandon. But the video i just watch with Brandon trying to debate White and i forgot the other Christians name. That man Brandon is morally retarded. He is without a doubt possessed with a lascivious evil seducing sprit. I believe strongly that God sent Brandon to two of his ordained ministers, so that God try and save his soul. That doesn't mean anyway i know the mind of Lord, that i may instruct him. All i'm saying is that everyone of us, for we are sinners deserves a chance to repentant. That is what i mean that God sent him to the two ordained minsters of the gospel of Jesus Christ. So anyways, Brandon rejected every holy word of God. Not only did he reject God's holy word at least 50 times and more consistently. But he would foolishly and boldly, confidently say that is not the true meaning of what Jesus said. That is same as calling Jesus liar. He would also call the two ordained minster arrogant. But the two ministered only used Gods holy words. After Brandon rejected God's holy word. He would immediately then just make up pure foolishness that doesn't make any sense at all. So it would appear at this time or from when the video was made. That Brandon sold his soul to satan to promote inordinate affections, and evil concupiscence, and all manner of lasciviousness. Brandon has received the mark of beast. He is working full time 24-7, 365 days for the anti-christ. The anti-christ has already created and recruited billions of loyal warriors. Catholics, Muslims, Jehovah Witness, Hebrew Israelites, Mormons, Church of scientology, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc, any man-made religion that doesn't consent to wholesome teaching, even the teachings of Jesus Christ. Did you see how ignorant, and bold and confident, proud, with a disgusting fake smile through out the whole debate, Brandon displayed.
You guys speak well. I have a daughter who buys into Brandon’s doctrine. My hardline approach did not help, only drove her further into her false world. I prayed much and God has shown me a loving way to speak the exact message. She is moving back toward truth because she trusts my motives now.
Most liberals are like that sadly. They go into massive debt to get indoctrinated with group think liberal nonsense and they don't come out knowing anything about reality. I know because I used to be one of them
That’s because you don’t need to go to college or Bible school to know the Bible and to understand Yah’s truth… what you need is revelation! You can have thousands of diplomas on your wall and still if you have no revelation you are as dumb as you can be 🤷🏽♀️
Imagine how many lives these people could save if the focused on the main thing Jesus talked about……. POVERTY! But these “godly men” don’t give a spit about human life. I’m glad they are losing the war for the future. 🎉
Hi Deion, this is often a misquote that changes textual and contextual impact. Checkout proverbs 16:18, as pride leads to “destruction.” Much worse. Not trying to be another internet cop, really appreciate you commenting in truth, as you are correct on pride driving the wedge between truth and darkness here. But it leads to destruction, haughtiness comes before a fall. Unfortunately I’ve lived the latter more than I’d like as a Christian and thankful for the blood of Jesus as well as the conviction of the Holy Spirit.
This was needed. The 2 best apologists and respected men of the faith defending the word of God against progressive ideology. I pray this blesses people who struggle like Brandon does. We ought to all pray for Brandon to find the true Christ and repent of his false doctrines that are leading people to hell.
The two best apologists for Calvin and his god, Augustine: "Augustine is so wholly within me that if I wished to write a confession of my faith, I could do so with all fullness and satisfaction to myself out of his writings" (John Calvin)
@@TheInfinityOK ALL THROUGH the New Testament we are told to "rebuke" and "exhort" and "encourage" and verses like the following contradict what you said. [You should ask yourself why you're contradicting God's Word. If you simply don't know it then you need to be "in" it i.e reading and cogitating on it all through the day every day]. "I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then you would have to go out of the world. But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner: do not even eat with such a one. For what have I to do to judge them also that are outside [the church]? Are you not judging them that are inside? But God judges them that are outside. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person" (1 Corinthians 5:9-13) "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them" (Ephesians 5:11) "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge righteously [according to righteousness]" (John 7:24) Jesus COMMANDS that we discern/judge by their FRUIT i.e ACTIONS. There's a reason for that: it's because, as EVERY book and letter in the New Testament (apart from Philemon) warns us, "grievous wolves" (Acts 20:29) infiltrate churches and assemblies (some spiritually dangerous but others physically abusive or murderous!) and we need to DISCERN before opening up and fellowshiping with them. "For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes. A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh" (Luke 6:43-45)
@@TheInfinityOK God has spoken. It's in His Word. You either "hear" (spiritually-speaking) or you don't. "My sheep hear my voice and I know them and they follow me" (John 10:27)
@@TheInfinityOK That's ridiculous. The Pharisees and Saducees obviously DIDN'T read and/or believe Scripture because they failed to recognize the Messiah - who was described, prophesied and foreshadowed throughout the Old Testament, standing in front of them. JESUS, Paul and the other epistle writers quote Scripture (the Old Testament obviously) repeatedly. Paul quotes or refers to the Old Testament at least 80 times in his epistles and the writer to the Hebrews makes *32* references to the Old Testament in that one letter alone. You really have no idea what you're talking about and don't seem to have a "teachable spirit" either.
Correct me if I'm wrong but has there ever been a false prophet apostate who turned from their ways. Someone this famous. He has built his entire life on a lie to make himself feel better about being gay. But what's worse He causes millions of people to be led astray
The conviction in his eyes a couple times in the conversation is proof that he knows the truth already. No amount of money and time on his part will change that.
Great video and debate. Brendan's argument went off the rails the moment he said that he wasn't sure that there was an objective moral standard. If that's the case, then he has no way to justify any of his claims, as well as no basis to challenge Scripture. In essence, he defeated his own argument the moment he said that. I'm glad these two gentlemen didn't let him run from that.
@@kedduff1814 but like I reminded my daughter last night that there is an elect and unfortunately that means not everyone was chosen to go to heaven. I got started on Joel osteen and within 3mths I had good enough discernment to know he was a false teacher. The Holy Spirit showed me the truth even starting from the bottom. Now only 2yrs later I am sound enough on theology that my long time Christian friends complaint me for it. Its totally a work of the Holy Spirit and I wasn't the one who went searching he ripped me right out of my destructive lifestyle and sin and had me a new heart of flesh no more stone! Praise God!
"Son, I was studying this stuff when you were still in diapers." I laughed out loud so loudly that my wife came from across the house to find out what I was watching.
@joshuagonsalez653 marriage existed long before religion and in particular long before yours. I’m not hijacking’s anything, me being able to get married has zero bearing on your marriage or anyone else’s. The only person trying to hijack rights is yall. How is it that the religious right in this country feels that they posses the right to tell other grown adults if they can marry another grown adult or not?
You do the exact same thing. You may not have spent money to do it, but every living being does exactly what you have just described, in varying levels.
joshuagonsalez653 it’s y’all that initiated the whole using the legal system to oppress and stifle the rights of other people. Not us. And y’all say I can be in a relationship but as soon as I want to lock that relationship up into a marriage then y’all want to step in and say that my rights end where your belief begins. You do realize how frustrating that is right?
To falsify truth you have to chase your tail and set up a dizzying maze of word salad and delusion. The truth is clear, concise and to the point. Great job by pastor Jeff and Dr White.
This discussion is the reason that freedom of speech must be preserved. I have been struggling with this topic, but hearing all the ideas clearly laid out and respectfully explored and explained by both sides I now see where the errors in thinking and interpretation are. Thank you gentlemen for a truely epic and totally worthwhile conversation. Pray for everyone grappling with this.
@@nateh.512that’s why censorship is so pervasive right now because a certain side does NOT want different opinions and thoughts out in the public square because the ultimate goal is zero dissent in opinion. It’s scary.
Already within the first 12 minutes, the cognitive dissonance from Brandon is jaw-dropping. Thank God for Jeff standing against the words of wolves with such humility and strength.
The first 12 mins are a terrible example by the host of how not to debate. Brandon kept getting interrupted all the time. It’s hard to know what the guy actually thinks when he’s hardly had a chance to say it.
I don’t think it was difficult at all to know exactly where he stood… I think they all got a little excited at times and interrupted but it was definitely not hard to understand where Brandon was coming from
@@hoosierhyperwatch5884 But who's the heretic? All of us are sinners. We choose the parts of the Bible that suit us, ignoring the parts that don't back our opinions. No one can completely follow everything in the Bible- it contradicts itself at times. The good book was written by multiple authors and they simply put in their own accounts. Some of them never even met Jesus.
This whole debate makes me anxious, as I am not confrontational! This poor delusional man is so full of intellictional gibberish in an effort to defend his sin. I have a Grandson that's extremely well educated and gay and this guy reminds me of him. However I committed him onto the Lod when he was 14 and I'm standing on this hope and promise. Praying for clarity and healing for this fellow.
I have a PhD, I promise you it means nothing. Jesus said, “I thank you father that you have not revealed these things to the wise and to the intelligent; but to little children”. Don’t be intimidated by your grandson’s education. Pray for him and minister to him by challenging him with simplicity. Don’t underestimate how much that will challenge him.
There’s demons you have to understand when people are under bondage like that demons are allowed to enter in and they destroyed their mind. It’s not just that person talking him going off him and all that stuff is demons manifesting
I found this hard to stomach as a Christian. You can not pick and choose scripture to fit your needs or lifestyle. The scripture is not a buffet or menu that you pick what you need based on circumstances. Gods word is never changing, is not debatable it is above approach and will not be challenged or changed or added to. You guys are amazing and I’ve learned so much. You are so right in being harder on him because he will held to a higher standard being a False Prophet. We can not lean on our own understanding or feeling but on God’s Word.
Man “I found this hard to stomach as a Christian” I didn’t believe your comment at first but man after watching…. We need Jesus if Brandon is preaching to people lol
@@noneofyourbusinessatthistime I totally agree. I’ve watched another interview with him and he twist a lot of scripture and uses what he what’s but not all of it.
The reason Brandon should have his feet held to the fire is bc he claims to be a Pastor which means his false teachings are leading people straight to hell. Therefore Pastors have an obligation to call him out for his false teachings and misrepresenting our Lord. Pauls 2nd letter to Thess he warned them against spirits, people and letters written that would deceive the Church. Bravo to these brothas bc dude has a doctrine of devils and a new book coming out. Scary bro
I have to give glory to God for this episode and the patience and poise of Pastor Jeff and Pastor White. I do not think at my current stage in life that I would have the ability for such grace in this conversation.
I see; pride, intolerance, and immaturity. I am not a scholar in Theology but I can usually tell when someone is being dishonest. I will pray for this young man to humble himself and for his eyes to open to the Truth. To me it is clear that Pastor Jeff and Pastor James are showing their love and respect, and seeing this interaction fills my heart. Thank you for sharing this. Praise the Lord.
That young man really incapsulates the cultural war and the hate towards truth that the west is facing today. We need to pray not only for this young man, but for all our leaders in power that they may make Godly decisions.
What’s crazy is I see that too… but on both sides. I pray for all of them grow into a deeper knowledge of the spirit of God. None of them had any business arguing over the things of God. Rivalrous. Speaking over each other. Puffed Up & Proud. Insisting on their own way… We are supposed to LISTEN to each other so that we can CONSIDER & KNOW THAT HE IS GOD. Anyone who believes that Jesus came in the flesh is FROM God. You’re supposed to listen to each other so you can HEAR GOD. They both missed out on something that could’ve been MIRACULOUS because the glory that God shows we we as believers come together in Love to testify to what God has shown us & why. GOD gets the glory when what bigger than just OUR MIND, OUR understanding, what WE hear. We have to do better. This was a loss on behalf of the whole Body. Tragedy.
Apart from the “son, I was studying this stuff when you were in diapers, don’t give me your 10 years.” Although I agree with James and Jeff, comments like that do nothing to aid the conversation. You can win an argument but still lose the person, and speaking like that is a sure way to do it.
They seek after false teachers who will tell them what they want to hear. Brandon belongs to satan(sadly) and he, like Satan, wants to be worshiped. His “congregation” feeds his arrogance by giving him an audience. Jesus, Brandon willfully has rejected You. Only Your Holy Spirit can convict him. He refuses rebuking, teaching and correcting by true followers of Jesus.
The 100%%% cold truth is , ya'll ready?? Brandon will never submit to his bias torward progressive Christianity because he is GAY. End of story. All of his arguments have an underlined tone on defending this practice of sin he wont give up. Sorry, I know it sounds harsh but thats the truth. Every arguement he submits defends his world view that is personal to him and not the truth.
My dad was caught cheating with several men. I was an adult when I knew about it. I'm the eldest of 3, and I have 2 brothers. My mom shielded us from knowing this because she knew it would destroy us. She bore the pain of it alone for most of their married life, did not have the courage to leave my dad because of us, and was not completely reconciled until she died 2 yrs ago. It broke our family, devastated us for years of our lives. If not for Jesus, I would not have learned to love and forgjve my dad. How could you say that consensual, same sex relations won't harm others? It broke at least 4 lives, and if not for grace my life would for sure be ruined. Homosexuality is sin. Sin destroyed my parents' marriage. Sin destroyed our family. But through all this, Jesus upheld me. Jesus kept me from total ruin. Jesus taught me what love is, what forgiveness is. And I still have hope for my dad to turn from his sinfulness and turn to follow the teachings of Christ that says that his homosexual lifestyle will separate him from Christ. I want him to be saved, it means loving him by telling him that his sin will destroy him.
I’m sorry to hear about your family, but homosexuality wasn’t what broke the 4 lives though, it was the cheating wasn’t it? If your father had slept with several women would that not be equally devastating and immoral?
@@johncall528 In this case though, he slept with other men, so it was indeed homosexual lust that ruined this particular family. Comparing one sin to another does not change that.
@@johncall528That is what I was thinking. In my opinion, the 'devastating' aspect may be more, or less, dependant on the objectivity of an individual. However, it is equally as immoral if the cheating partners were women.
@@johncall528 Of course it would, her father broke the vows of his marriage weather it with a man or woman, other than the shock factor is irrelevant. Then again, I think Jesus takes special disgust in homosexuality as it is a violation of the natural order of life, female and male. So no I would not say that this sin is "equally immoral" homosexuality has a certain effect on society and it's proper order. This is way the liberals being led by Satan are striving to get "progressive teaching about abnormal sexual practices into public education because Satan 's job after all is to confuse society.
@@johncall528but he didn't sleep with women, he slept with men. Try and keep track. Homosexuality is a sin. All all who practise this sin without repentance will be going to hell. When you die, you will see that no practising homosexual will be in heaven. Then where will your arguments be then? It's easy to be alive today and support these arguments, but when you are on deaths door facing jesus, let's see if you will still have the same rational then!!
“If you believe what you like in the Gospel, and reject what you don't like, it is not the Gospel you believe, but yourself.”Augustine - Brandan Robertson
“Sexual immorality is idolatrous”. This was a mic drop moment from Jeff. I could spend $100,000 and a decade of studying to try to justify my lusts. Still doesn’t make it truth
It’s so helpful to hear a dialogue rather than an ‘echo chamber’ monologue between two camps that are diametrically opposed. Thank you for both showing great respect and grace and self-control whilst clearly challenging Brandon to repent of his false teaching. I pray in Jesus’ name that Brandon will indeed respond to Christ (the real Jesus) and renounce every word of deceit that he has written or said. And may God bless your ministry, too.
I've struggled my whole life. And I wanted so much that what I was struggling with was not wrong. I grew up close to the Lord and always a church goer. But no matter how hard I tried to balance both worlds, it just did not jive. I wanted to know the Truth. I spent years going to alters, fasting, and praying asking God to show me it was ok and if not, take it away. I was with the mindset that how can something that seems so right be so wrong. The Father ultimately showed me that there is a way that seems right to a man, but the end thereof leads to destruction. It just that simple. This flesh is sinful and cannot be subjected to God, but we ARE given the power to overcome. That's what this whole thing is about, whether you struggle with homosexuality or any other sexual dysphoria, this flesh cannot submit to God. But it is the power of God through His Son, that we overcome. We overcome by the blood of the Lamb and by the Word of our testimony.
We turn from out sin and follow the path God has prepared. If we refuse he kills us. It is pretty easy to do when you understand the consequence of rejecting the promise.
Yes, hate the gays!!! Lmao. Gtfo. Yall just need to leave gays alone. What's up with yall hate? You don't have to shit on others to go to church on sunday
Jeff eluted to Brandon’s primary root issue. He lived a life feeling guilty over his lust, and then spent “$100,000 and 10 years” towards developing a position that justified his sin.
I pray that he can some day say that the money and time he spent to justify his sin is ultimately what lead him to the actual truth. That one day it won't be a part of his beliefs anymore but a part of his revelation.
@@tinsakamp You are correct the first time I listened to the podcast of Apple and it sounded like he said $180k but on the YT version it was clearly $100k.
Made me laugh out loud when Brandon said I accept many parts. My man you do not get to pick and choose. That is not the manner by which the Bible is applied to a Christian faith.
Everyone chooses what they get to follow in the Bible because they believe they are led by the Holy Spirit. Reformed Christians are no different than liberal Christians in that manner.
@@jokinghazard4022 how so? Tell me how you handle your slaves? Do you greet everyone with a holy kiss? Do you let women not wear jewelry? Or do you look at a historical context and come to your own conclusion? It’s no different than any other Christian in past generations claiming to be enlightened by the Holy Spirit. The great thing today thanks to progress is that the Church doesn’t get to pull a John Calvin and murder someone for “apostasy.”
@@josuevaladez1176 I agree that different “denominations” hold different interpretations of certain passages…. But how do you defend homosexuality which is clearly wrong in the bible- that’s the problem with this false “pastor.”
You’re reading ancient texts and ancient people and trying to modernize their beliefs by your own consciousness and feelings. I don’t “defend” homosexuality because I don’t hold to ancient commandments of the Old Testament for my standards of living nor do I think the writers were discussing monogamous gay relationships. Calling someone who loves gay people a false pastor is the same equivalent of calling someone a false pastor for loving interracial couples. It’s not “clearly” wrong but conservatives make it to be even though they ignore science and literature because of their fundamentalist view of the book.
“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” 2 Timothy 4:3. Brandon is the perfect example of this verse. He admitted in the video that he spent over $100,000 studying homosexuality and how it pertains to the Scripture. He has surrounded himself with teachers and teachings that allow him to follow his own lusts to which he himself has admitted to having struggled with in the past!
I look around and keep hearing 2 thessalonians 2:10 "And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." 🙏🏼
I wanted to give credit to James. Although a lot of people accuse him of being a meanie, I thought his kindness and compassion and patience really came through in this discussion. Well done
@@benjamincamping8134 completely agree. The fact that he has spent decades debating heretics and still has any sense of patience with young men like Brendan shows that he truly does exhibit the fruit of the Spirit.
I just wish James White actually had as much grace and patience with fellow Christians that disbelieve Calvinism. He is more peaceful with unbelievers and heretics.
Man the denial and mental gymnastics this guy does to apply his own understanding, desires, and attitudes to justify his own sin, and then LEAD others to do so… it’s simply heartbreaking and astounding.
Cherry picking is easy. People do it every day to justify the wave of life.. There's Homosexuals are bored and want to be accepted by God's people. So someone taught them they could just don't follow everything in the bible. Very sad to see.
I use all of the great formal (word for word) translations. Including everything from Tyndale’s NT, Geneva, Matthew’s Bible, 1611 KJV, KJV, NKJV, CSB,ESV,NASB 77 and 95, and now the LSB. I will never hinder my learning by using only one translation. It has almost never failed that I learned something deeper about a particular scripture by consulting multiple translations and researching why they chose to translate it the way they did. Also, buy a full-notes NET Bible just for the notes. You’ll be glad you did. God Bless!
I've had plenty of experiences of people talking out of both sides of their mouth and contradicting themselves, but this is a whole new level. The hosts here have way more patience than I would have. This kid is taking some very simple things, tries to make it way more complicated than it really is, and seems to think that makes him look intelligent. It doesn't.
Thank you for calling out and confronting the false teacher Brandon Robertson. We need more pastors and Christian’s who have the backbone to call out the apostate and false teachers. You cannot believe only the scriptures that you like and toss out what you don’t. Brandon needs to be set free. Thanks again Gentlemen for having the boldness to point out false teachers. Blessings!
Once Brandon brought up the “you’re hurting communities” he said all that he needed to say. Sounds to me like that feeling he expressed led him to make up his own Christianity.
Yep and that's the whole problem right there. Pastor Chris Rosebrough from fighting for the faith points out that this is idolatry because they're worshipping an image of God that doesn't exist... an image that THEY created of him. Not only that, but this community is ALL about their feelings...they idolize their own emotions, desires and pleasures. That too is idolatry. They'll go to bat defending their "movement" more than the actual Faith.
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Hi Jeff, that was a really good debate. Where did you and your friend get your cross necklaces from? I would like to buy one.
U did amazing! Bottom line is he wants to keep his sin and he's trying to justify it. Homosexuality is a sin and it clearly says DO NOT BE DECIEVED! that they won't enter the kingdom along with others
@@MLK7788 if you believe the Bible is true what did God say about eating from the Tree of knowledge? Do you believe that?
@@lpp297 are you reading the Bible to know good and evil or is it just literature to you?
Keep up the good work. God bless.
Let us pray for this young man. As a former homosexual, who was "married" for 5 years to another man, I was caught in the same spiritual and theological darkness.... 8 Years clean and born again by the power of the Holy Spirit, there is still a lot of hope for him and others still blinded by these lies. Pray, pray and pray. Share the truth of the Scriptures with him, just keep on! Those that were upfront with me from the start and remained loving but firm with the Truth played a huge role in Jesus opening my eyes. Sola Deo Gloria!!!!
Holy Spirit can change your life when you seek him . I'm glad your on a righteous path now , Praise Jesus
God bless you, Werner!
Reading your comment re-strengthens me to keep praying for my sister in law. Having contact with her is pretty much impossible for several reasons but it's the very least I can do.
❤️
Amen
This video proves, categorically, what I've been saying about liberal/LGBT theology forever now -- they're not seeking repentance, they're seeking validation.
And ascendancy
I’ve been saying the same! I also believe their conscience is being convicted and they are struggling tremendously with it, so much so that the lgbtq society they have created isn’t so much about convincing us they were “created” like that, but to convince themselves in hopes it will quiet their conscience. It won’t, only humbly going to the Lord in complete repentance and placing your faith in Jesus will remove the conviction of your conscience! It will also only remove it until you sin again and then it will be back. That’s what they meant by the law being written on our hearts! Take care and God Bless!
This is what happens when Christians teach that the Law no longer applies and we do not have to keep the commandments.
Then you don’t know what the Greek work, repent/metanioa means. You just believe what reformed theology tells you it means. Which is the great Spand of church history, the reformation is pretty recent.
They’re seeking deliverance. God is not a respecter of persons. God has parted the Red Sea for a whole community of people & the church is missing it. So sad. God purify our hearts so we can see YOU.
Brandan: We can't know objective morality.
Also Brandan: I think some of the positions you hold are morally reprehensible.
🤣
Ey, fight for truth, what are you doing here, haven't you demolished Brandan enough, show some mercy man 🤣
Brilliant!
Exactly!
To be fair, it is possible to hold a subjective opinion about morality (hence the words “I think…”) while not claiming to have unfettered access to infallible knowledge of objective moral standards.
It’s tough at times but as someone who struggles with same sex attraction, I have chosen to pick up cross and deny myself daily. My identity is in Christ and not in what a small part of me feels. It’s a walk every day, but God does lighten the load and I have never felt closer to my creator.
I tried so hard to justify the lifestyle but my conviction has lead me to where I am now. My heart goes out to all who struggle with SSA. You’re not alone, you’re not seen as less than in the eyes of God. Pray to him, he wants to hear from you ❤
For reasons that we may never fully understand, I believe that God calls some of us to be single. His plan for me can certainly change because he is in control of all things, but in the mean time, I am being fulfilled in my walk with him.
Amen brutha! I struggle too, and GOD has been faithful to me my whole life! Even before I got saved! By the grace of GOD I never went into the lifestyle, but the struggle is real. This dude Brandon is so deceived it ain't funny! Satanic deception ain't no joke! It well lead you straight to hell! The Bible calls it "strong delusion" in 2 THESSALONIANS. SELAH. GOD bless you man. Pray for me, as I pray for you!
Praying for you brother!! 🙏🏼 thank you for your transparency!! It needs to be talked about! It's sin struggle just like all of us struggle. Some sin is harder than others but God sees sin as sin! Shalom brother!!
Praise God!! Walk by the spirit and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh my friend. Remain close to Jesus and his ways and the enemy will flee from you.
Praise God and thank you for being vulnerable to share your struggles! You are living proof people can and DO live with it and stay true to God. We can't let sin define ourselves.
Thank you all for the kind words
My first reaction toward Brandon’s theology was anger and spite.
Quickly after I was moved to compassion and teared up realizing this is how I must have sounded and looked in the eyes of God prior to my call to repentance.
Praying for Brandon.
ouch, stop it thats too convicting 😅
Same! I get so angry even righteously so at how he handles scripture and yet…his disrespectful bent against God brings me to tears as I think how close I was to following Rob Bell and how grateful I am God plucked me and pruned me from that and deepened my love for scripture
That was awesome!!! I felt the same way when I watched a smidge of one of his videos. I also was saved from new age Jesus thinking! Love the name by the way!!
This dude is lost man. Prayers for him and others who are lost as well
Same
I grew up in a progressive christian church. I attended until I was 15 and let me tell you, those progressives were some of the kindest and least problematic people I ever met. To this day I have not found a church family as kind and genuinely welcoming as they are. However, as a teen I realized the cracks in their theology as the Spirit began to convict me when I attended service. I could literally feel something was wrong and I did not know what exactly because all I knew was liberal theology/progressivism. I was taught as a child that conservatives were evil people who want to molest me and judge me. It is no wonder I believed what I was told, it was extremely indoctrinating. However as a teen in my christian high school I learned from one of my teachers freshman year something I would never forget, "If you can find any contradiction in the Bible then forget the faith altogether because then it has no authority." It shocked me because I was taught that contradictions were normal and now I was learning that there were actually no contradictions if you read it correctly. Although my family is quite liberal, I still love them, as well as the people at that old church. However, I am definitely conservative now and I am so grateful to God he saved me from that progressive false gospel.
I think it’s interesting that you were told that conservatives would molest you when many conservatives think liberals are or are protecting pedophiles. It’s just interesting to see a generalized view that both sides have of each other
Beautiful testimony
@@samanthakwait8782Agreed, and it's sad. I absolutely despise conformity to one side or the other as a Christian.
I don’t find it shocking at all that those people were ‘appearing’ as the kindest and least problematic. When you agree with everyone, what is there to disagree on? However, at the end of the day, being agreeable IS problematic and unkind when it doesn’t align with the truth of scripture. Jesus says “they will hate you because of me.” We should be worried if we are not in opposition with a broken fallen world.
Such good testimonies on here (yours included). I want to write mine, but there is so much to write about THE ALMIGHTY; I don't even know where to begin. But I do know GOD GOT ME TO WHERE I AM NOW, AND I CANT TURN BACK TO WHO I USE TO BE. I know too much and I know HIS sovereignty is GOOD FOR ME.
The way Brandon switched from "a follower of Christ" to "identifies as a follower of Christ" mid-sentence was more telling than he could have possibly put into words.
Straight up.
I Caught That Too. He is a false teacher and an antichrist who is doing the desires of his father The Devil. Not trying to Judge but he sounds like a Vessel of Wrath God has prepared for destruction.
Everything with progressives is a matter of "identity." This guy uses every single SJW buzzword.
Every time I hear someone say "identifies" I know debate is useless since that person does not believe in truth. If you don't believe God, that created the whole universe from nothing, can keep His word in order and exactly how He wants it, then how will you ever find HIS truth? This Brandon is not only willfully blind, but is also leading the lost with him. Scary!
41 years old...lesbian all my life.....not anymore!!! THANK YOU JESUS!!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤
God bless you sister ❤
You are born again!!
I find this absolutely amazing and powerful. It just shows that when you walk with God, anything can be fixed.
@@UstashaMe84 amen
Jesus is pagan idolatry
“You’ve already rejected God’s authority we reject yours!” I felt that line! Preach!
Love this too! Amen
John 15 : 12, My command is this.. love everyone as I have loved u u u u u !!!!
6:55 and his answer is: "I would say I would be in alignment with a majority of other people." the debates over... this in itself ends the interview. he admits not to being christian by going with an idea because he believes most people and not simply acknowledge what is truly the truth. 2 boys don't make a baby, neither does 2 girls.
@@eriktheprayer LMAO You should be ashamed of yourself for defending a book that promotes slavery mass genocide and and eternal torture for a finite crime.
I liked that too! Lol 💯
I was a lesbian and was still married to my ex when I walked into my church. I was struggling with being a Christian and being gay and wanted both things. Until one night in my room crying out to God about it and he convinced me of my sin, I cried and cried and begged for forgiveness and asked Him to change me. I am now not attracted to women. Saying this I know and have watched testimonies of people still having the attraction to the same sex but are celibate due to their love for Jesus. The same as if you lied before giving your life to Jesus you continue to give the sin to God and repent to walk out your salvation (if you are still lying) for example, we are not all changed of all the past at the moment of conversion. Transformation can take a long time and we aren't perfect till we are with the Lord!
Hope this makes sense 🙏🏼
I'm a celibate straight person, He is worthy ❤❤
@Samson Jr. me too, that sin almost took me down, praise Jesus
Exactly. That’s why the whole “why would God let me have these desires if it was a sin?” Type arguments.
I’m “naturally” attracted/lustful of women. That doesn’t mean it’s not sin and I shouldn’t fight it. I naturally want to lie of it I think it will benefit me, but it’s still a sin and I should run from it.
So just bc some people are attracted to the same sex, doesn’t mean it’s not a sin and you shouldn’t fight it.
Grace and peace in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. God bless you, sister.
I'm glad you made the right choice.
Jeff is absolutely right, he picks & chooses what he wants to consider true & accurate based on his own desires. It couldn't be any more obvious.
Like a disobedient child !
What About Paul Peter James John Jude!
@@lucaswilhelmmeyer6943 what about them?
He Might as well be Muslim!
Well, you christians do the same, you cherry pick the nice verses or those of fire and brimnstone ignoring those were your God orders to commit genocides or condobes slavery
My heart breaks for this man, Brandon. I will pray for him. I've been a pastor for 30 years. I pastor a small rural church. I feel sorry for those who manipulate the world of God to justify their sin as this man clearly does. He has invented a god he feels comfortable with that he may justify his sin. He has no idea who God is, a God who is Holy and he will have to reckon with in the end. Pray for pastors Jeff and James as they fight these battles in such a public way. They are in the devil's crosshairs. Sola Deo Gloria!
Hopefully he'll come around.
Amen.
This may sound weird, but couple days ago I had a dream and I was chanting something that at one point I got confuse of what I was trying to said on my dream…and I think I was saying “Soli Deo, Soli deo, Soli Deo” keep in mind not sure and I don’t even what does that mean.
“I don’t interpret it that way because it contradicts my lifestyle”
Basically his whole argument.
Lifestyle or rather addiction.
Literally the church on several topics regarding God's law.
Thanks for saving me 90 minutes of being annoyed
Exactly. We are living in the days now where ALOT of people have succumbed to a reprobate mindset. People are now thinking the bad is good and the good is bad. In all of MY 51 yrs, on this Earth I have never seen so many confused people. It is really sad,and the ONLY consolation i have in this world of madness is that Jesus said these things were going to happen. He proclaimed it. Recently, i did a post on quora and they took it down because I said there are ONLY two sexes, male and female. Period. The site called it "homophobic" so, now I'm homophobic for saying something that we ALL know is true. Wow.
@@justabunneh6490Like what?
👋👋Former homosexual here, was married to a woman for 14 yrs. I PRAISE GOD for your ministry!!! Praying for this young man!!! God bless you both!! 🙏🙏🙏
What happens afterwards? I’ve been meaning to ask what happens once you’re saved.. especially being married to the same-sex. Not trying to be mean or rude, just honestly want to know. God bless you and anyone else who came to him, even those who never did or haven’t yet.
@@adrianaamado473 You deny yourself, pick up your cross, and follow Christ.
@@adrianaamado473 The word homosexual was never mentioned in the original Bible. In the Original Greek and Hebrew texts the word that is now translated to homosexual actually accurately translates to a pedophile or boy abuser or boy molester. That is according to the Bible homosexuality is not a sin child molesting is. The ancient word condoned and encourage a system of pedastry-sexual relationships between an adult (old) man and a young boy 8-12 years old. According to Theologian Ed Oxford Ancient Greek Documents show us how even parents utilize this abusive system to help their sons advance in society. For most of history, these verses were interpreted to be obviously referring to the pedastry, not homosexuality. In summary, the original Bible condemned pedastry, not homosexuality. The shift to attacking homosexuality in the 1980’s is not only a calculated attack on queer folks that came during a critical period for us (Think the AIDS epidemic) but is also disgustingly ironic coming from an institution with nearly 6000 (old) clergymen charged with sexual assault of young boys.They think they are covering something up? Hard to argue otherwise here’s the timeline.
1534: Martin Luther’s original German translation includes ‘Knabenschander’, which means boy molester.
1800’s: A German Bible reads, ‘Man shall not lie with young boys as he does with a woman for it is an abomination, (Leviticus 18-22) and reads, ‘Boy molesters will not inherit the kingdom of God’ (1 Corinthians).
1892: The Germans created the word homosexual.
1983: The American company Bilblica pays for an updated German Bible that uses the word homosexual instead of ‘boy molesters’. This was later put into the English Bible which read ‘Mam shall not lie with man, for it is an abomination.
@@babiiesha1 The word homosexual was never mentioned in the original Bible. In the Original Greek and Hebrew texts the word that is now translated to homosexual actually accurately translates to a pedophile or boy abuser or boy molester. That is according to the Bible homosexuality is not a sin child molesting is. The ancient word condoned and encourage a system of pedastry-sexual relationships between an adult (old) man and a young boy 8-12 years old. According to Theologian Ed Oxford Ancient Greek Documents show us how even parents utilize this abusive system to help their sons advance in society. For most of history, these verses were interpreted to be obviously referring to the pedastry, not homosexuality. In summary, the original Bible condemned pedastry, not homosexuality. The shift to attacking homosexuality in the 1980’s is not only a calculated attack on queer folks that came during a critical period for us (Think the AIDS epidemic) but is also disgustingly ironic coming from an institution with nearly 6000 (old) clergymen charged with sexual assault of young boys.They think they are covering something up? Hard to argue otherwise here’s the timeline.
1534: Martin Luther’s original German translation includes ‘Knabenschander’, which means boy molester.
1800’s: A German Bible reads, ‘Man shall not lie with young boys as he does with a woman for it is an abomination, (Leviticus 18-22) and reads, ‘Boy molesters will not inherit the kingdom of God’ (1 Corinthians).
1892: The Germans created the word homosexual.
1983: The American company Bilblica pays for an updated German Bible that uses the word homosexual instead of ‘boy molesters’. This was later put into the English Bible which read ‘Mam shall not lie with man, for it is an abomination.
@@thisbtchisraginghomosexual1655sex outside marriage is a sin period. So I don’t understand how sexual interaction between two men or two woman is not sinful?
I was a homosexual. I was tormented and wanted to die. I knew it wasn’t right but was fooled into thinking I could not be free. But I had an encounter with Jesus. I fell in love with Him and truly repented. It took work but, I saw the truth and He brought light into my life. I am married and have 3 beautiful children and we serve God. I was also freed from cocaine addiction. GOD CAN DO ANYTHING!!!!! May God have mercy on this guy. Also you all spoke with so much love and patience 💯
Thank you for sharing. ❤
Praise God, sweet sister!! Thank you for sharing. We serve a mighty Savior!
AMEN! KEEP SEEKING JESUS IN THE BIBLE!
Your Jesus must have had horns.
He is so amazing isn’t He!!
I love how Brandon comes out and says straight off that he's a heretic. Boom, no need for debate. He says he doesn't believe in the Word of God. He's not a Christian. He's a false prophet.
It'd a weird thing, claiming to see he is unaware of how blind he is, it boggles my mind the weird mental gymnastics he stumbles over trying to claim he is Christian.
what a way to start the debate right?
Perhaps not a False Prophet more of a False Teacher. I have not heard Brandon Prophesy before therefore he can't be a False Prophet.
@@ChaseIrwin anyone who claims to speak God's Word is a prophet. That's what prophesying is. He is a false prophet.
100% the debate was over in 10 seconds
I lived like this for most of my life. Saved in my teens and then lived my life in the LGBT community professing my faith in Jesus but picking and choosing what I wanted out of the Bible…. 2 years ago I read Revelation 22:18-21 and it was like God slapped me across the face and redeemed me from my fleshly desires! Praise God for His love, mercy and grace for all of us.
Amen. Praise God!!!
Amen 😊
Wow that’s amazing. You must preach to that community now. You cannot forsake this obligation. Praying for you and that you can lead more homosexuals to repentance and save them from eternal damnation.
amen
That's awesome but for clarification the book of Revelation is a single book and those verses are specifically referring to anyone that alters it, not what would become The Bible hundreds of years later
Edit - Okay, I could see how it is still relevant to homosexual behavior. I thought you were referring to OT law.
“You’ve already rejected God’s authority, we reject yours.” - Jeff Durbin
Verry good quote
based
@JO Romans 1:18-32
@JO you can believe or reject it. But you cannot choose the eternal consequences of your rejection of Christ, a flaming Hell of torment for your sins against a Holy God. Repent and Believe the Gospel. 2 Corinthians 5:20-21, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
@JO that is the arrogance of the perishing.
This is exactly 100% why we need more shows just like this to challenge the world views and how YAHAVA is indeed the bedrock ❤️🔥
100% we're called by God to spread the TRUTH and show the world false teachers.
I agree. It’s become too normal to accept evil
It is sad and downright scary to see the lengths someone is willing to go in self-delusion, twisting/perverting Scripture, and arbitrary contextual argument, to justify their sexual sin. What's even more scary is that this person is leading others down the path of destruction....
He is taking so many people to hell and praying that God will remove the scales from his eyes to know the truth
The Devil is a liar
I pray that Brandon will be humbled and see the error of his ways.
One thing that is sad is that he truly is apostate, having learned the truth he rejected it and now it very much looks like God has given him over, I can honestly say I've never seen anyone like this. Most of the prosperity preachers seem like wolves in sheep clothing, but I don't think they ever believed the truth. This brandon guy is on a whole other level and it is weird to witness.
If you spend 100k on justifying your sin, believe me you WILL find a way to justify your sin. Keep this young man in your prayers 🙏🏾
I was thinking along those same lines
Listen!!! No one is spending all that time and money and admitting is was for a lie and waste. His position of authority is a mud slide. We need to plead with God for this man, because wow.
Itching ears!!!
I see him as having a Paul conversion, pray for him
@@alivewithchrist777 I hope that’s the case.
Brandon’s thought process is very confusing, chaotic, and a perfect example of what happens when we do away with Absolute Truths.
You can see him suppressing the truth in real time! Eye opening
His entire argument stems from a point of view that scripture isnt the ETERNAL Word of God, rather it is cultural, thus its meaning is dictated by the ebbs and flow of what is culturally acceptable.
He's a marxist, wearing your faith as a costume.
I think it is a misnomer to call Brandon a theologian.
It's actually a sign of the demonic, chaotic thinking and speaking, a lack of reason and a resistance to the truth. That's how you know demons are behind something or someone
@6:00 (perhaps there is) subjective
@6:03 (I don't believe) subjective
@6:07 (I don't think) subjective
@6:12 (I... don't think) subjective
@7:20 (I don't believe) subjective
@8:02 (I believe) subjective
@9:34 (I think) subjective
@9:42 (I don't think) subjective
@15:19 (I think) subjective
@18:14 (I would argue) subjecting
@18:54 (...I think) subjectice
@19:01 (I think) subjecting
@19:08 ("Isaiah 53 is not about Jesus")
@20:11 ("Writer Hebrews problematic")
@28:57 ("how I define sin) subjective
@38:08 (I don't think) subjective
@38:16 ("I believe") subjective
@58:52 (I think) subjective
@58:56 (I don't believe) subjective
@1:01:42 (I don't believe) subjective
@1:01:45 (I don't believe) subjective
@1:02:05 *Admits homosexuality does not bring life*
*• 19 subjective statements*
*• Contradicts scripture (Satan's tactic in Genesis)*
*• Rejects scripture (rebellion/witchcraft)*
*• Denies infallibility of Scripture*
*• Calls evil good and good evil (Woe/Severe warning of destruction over such as do this)*
love it... great job 👍
@@greggory4604 Thank you brother. Bless you
And to God be the Glory
@46:55 ( I am helping myself)
@47:51 ( couples things first of all you twisted scripture)
@50:23 (you aren't using the plain reading of the time I'm reading the text no you are because you're not noticing)
Well done
🙏🏽🙏🏽 thank you
Wow, this was a great. Super refreshing and enjoyable to watch. Ya’ll went beast mode! Dismantling false arguments and doctrines🙌🙏
Thank you for having Brandon on. It shows, truly, what we are up against.
👍 agreed 🙏
This comment! I came away from this with so much sadness about the move away from God’s word but an insistence to hold on to that Jesus in their own image. Maranatha!
@@Soladeogloria they will open their eyes if they are willing.
You couldn't have said it better, I think the scariest and worst part of our job as christains is when we do share the Gospel, THIS specific theology alone that Brandan uses is so messed up, people would use to rebuttal or reject it, it's literally the scariest because it screams "NO" to the Gospel and opportunity to repent and believe.
This is so out there, and so distorted, that he reduces objective truth down to an impossibility, mixed with new age and sinful lifestyle, that people like him reject the Gospel flat out, and distort it with "sly words" to the point of a disgusting crutch of philosophy, as if he and those who carry this figured it out without figuring it out. The claim that subjective truth leads to objective truth "one day" is simply called ignorance carried through deception. Nevertheless. I will still pray for Brandan that he gets knocked off his horse and scales are lifted off his eyes before it's too late.... Idk. This is false teaching at its peak.
What? Gay people! Oh no!!!!! Equality!! Can't have that!
"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness, who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter."
Word for word bar for bar
Is that from the bible?
@@_7isaiah Yes, it's in Isaiah 5:20-25
@@_7isaiahit's happening in real time....look at how abortion (murder in the womb) is handled now adays..disgusting.
Praying for you, Brandon. I too once loved my sin more than Jesus, so I feel great compassion for you. Turn away from your sin before it is too late !
Sister that won’t do anything. One of the things they’ve noticed in the interview and his previous video post is that he’s already blaspheming the Holy Spirit. He has even gone so far as to claim that Jesus repented of sin. If you remember the Pharisees criticizing Jesus saying that he cast out demons with the power of the devil, Brandon has done similar with his rhetoric. His sin is unforgivable hence the reason he is classified as apostate. He won’t be able to come back from this. His decision is no different than choosing the Mark of the beast.
As sad as it is, his fate is sealed.
🤯. You gentlemen have a subscriber for life in me!! The conviction and discernment is on 100!
“You rejected God’s authority, we reject yours” 😂 thank you Pastor Durbin and Dr White❤
laughed out loud at that part!🤣, tooo goood !
@@uzoachebe time code for when it was said?
@@uzoachebe😂 same!
@@uzoachebe hilarious! Sounds exactly like my Nigerian mum 😂
you handled this like a champ. Thank you for speaking truth to a broken Brandan
Wow come out!
Except for the part of the discussion from about 9:00 to 26:00 where Jeff and James try to present the fundamentalist approach to scripture as comporting with the methodologies applied to exegeting scripture by modern biblical scholarship.
@@paulallenscards lol wait…
What part of the methodology of exegesis was “modern?” Reading the Koine Greek original language is a new thing apparently…who knew?!
@@paulallenscards So you’re saying that modern interpretation is incorrect because it’s modern? What if you were shown ancient Christian exegesis that condemned homosexuality just like “fundamentalist” interpretation does? Would that cause you to change your mind?
@@Declared-righteous 👏🏻👏🏻 best response. No, they'd still want to justify living in sin
Whenever someone repeatedly states “I think” followed by their opinion, you know it’s based on subjective evidence. This dude is so lost, and we didn’t even hear his take on abortion. Great work Dr. White and Pastor Jeff.
Robertson clearly states at 6:00 that "perhaps there is a moral standard, but I don't believe we can know it objectively" then spends the rest of the debate claiming he didn't say that.
Now if we can just get, Jeff and James on Joe Rogan's podcast. I would take the day off to listen to that
So true. I would love them on TimCast to finally counter Ian's secular worldview as well.
@yumyum now that would be fantastic!
Funny enough, God keeps sending people to tell Joe about Jesus. Keep praying for that.
@@sweatt4237 good point!
It would be a feast ❤️
“They had 13 words for homosexuality because it was way more common!”
“They had no concept of sexuality at that time!”
-both comments made by Branden during thins video…
Thank you for pointing that out!
When God made Adam the dust of the earth he made him suitable to receive from the earth, food and air. When we take in food and air it brings forth life. When God took Adam and made Eve from his rib she is made to receive from Adam sexually and that brings forth life (baby). When god breathed into Adam's nostrils, Adam was made to receive spirituality from God and that brings forth life. LGBTQ tries to pervert the suitability of taking from one thing to make another thing and how they're suitable to one another. The thing made from another thing then receives from that and it brings forth life.
Imagine going $100,000 into student debt to get to where Brandon is.
Well with moody you wouldnt. The only thing you pay for at Moody is room and board its actually one of the most affordable Christian schools.
@@mobiledonutshop8336 what do you mean all you pay for is room and board? There's no tuition?
Why/how did a school like Moody accept someone whose lifestyle is contrary to the schools teaching??
😂😂😂😂😂 I’m dead
😂
One problem I noticed is that the only way Brandan can argue is too just deny any claims that argue with his view.
Imagine spending $100k to learn how to justify your sin.
It's sad, that $$$ is taking him straight to hades!
Imagine spending that much just to still be wrong
@@geness9676 Let's pray GOD will remove his blinders. So sad , millions view the Bible just like him.
@@Nandat3675 Yeah, millions confused because of him...The only way to twist the word so effectively is to understand the truth of the word - like Satan. "For it is better some of you not be teachers" He didn't heed the warning, he will be responsible for what he's doing, and it will be just...When I read that verse I was convicted and God-fear was put into my heart, I'd be terrified if I were him, but instead he's proud. I doubt this is a mistake, so much as intention.
He wasted a lot of money and time to glorify himself as his own god. As they say, you can’t fix stupid.
My heart goes out to Brandan Robertson. I sincerely hope Holy Spirit will deliver him from this thinking before it’s too late.
I can’t feel sorry for anyone who willfully blasphemes God and chooses to align himself with Satan, all while cherry-picking God’s Holy Word. He has been warned, in love, to repent. Jesus died for him and gave him a choice. Even Jesus said how bad it will be for anyone who misleads someone by preaching a false gospel.
@@melissaculpepper7663 All true, and unless he repents he will suffer the consequences of a just and righteous God. Even so, I feel compassion for him and will pray for him. And if he doesn't repent and change his ways, he will richly deserve whatever judgement befalls him.
I don't pretend to know the mind of the Lord to instruct him. So i'm not even trying to say what the Lord will do about Brandon.
But the video i just watch with Brandon trying to debate White and i forgot the other Christians name. That man Brandon is morally retarded. He is without a doubt possessed with a lascivious evil seducing sprit.
I believe strongly that God sent Brandon to two of his ordained ministers, so that God try and save his soul.
That doesn't mean anyway i know the mind of Lord, that i may instruct him.
All i'm saying is that everyone of us, for we are sinners deserves a chance to repentant. That is what i mean that God sent him to the two ordained minsters of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
So anyways, Brandon rejected every holy word of God. Not only did he reject God's holy word at least 50 times and more consistently. But he would foolishly and boldly, confidently say that is not the true meaning of what Jesus said.
That is same as calling Jesus liar. He would also call the two ordained minster arrogant. But the two ministered only used Gods holy words.
After Brandon rejected God's holy word. He would immediately then just make up pure foolishness that doesn't make any sense at all.
So it would appear at this time or from when the video was made. That Brandon sold his soul to satan to promote inordinate affections, and evil concupiscence, and all manner of lasciviousness.
Brandon has received the mark of beast. He is working full time 24-7, 365 days for the anti-christ.
The anti-christ has already created and recruited billions of loyal warriors. Catholics, Muslims, Jehovah Witness, Hebrew Israelites, Mormons, Church of scientology, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc, any man-made religion that doesn't consent to wholesome teaching, even the teachings of Jesus Christ.
Did you see how ignorant, and bold and confident, proud, with a disgusting fake smile through out the whole debate, Brandon displayed.
@@melissaculpepper7663 Sad to say but very true. Reprobate
I don’t think his conscience can hear The Holy Spirit unfortunately
These two pastors had a lot more patience than I would have had.
@@jacintopereira5497 In all honesty, he doesn't need their grace. He needs to be called out as the agent of Satan he is.
Amen!
They are veterans at loving debate.
@@jacintopereira5497We need to show grace to these people because without God we would be just like them.
You read my mind. 😂
I love how calm you remained during this encounter while firmly standing on the word of God and speaking the truth.
You guys speak well. I have a daughter who buys into Brandon’s doctrine. My hardline approach did not help, only drove her further into her false world. I prayed much and God has shown me a loving way to speak the exact message. She is moving back toward truth because she trusts my motives now.
I will pray for your daughter and you!
Praise God I will also pray for her Mike ❤
🙏
Will be praying.
Prayers for you and your daughter.
$100K in student loans to study the bible and he's still wrong. WOW!
Most liberals are like that sadly. They go into massive debt to get indoctrinated with group think liberal nonsense and they don't come out knowing anything about reality. I know because I used to be one of them
That’s because you don’t need to go to college or Bible school to know the Bible and to understand Yah’s truth… what you need is revelation! You can have thousands of diplomas on your wall and still if you have no revelation you are as dumb as you can be 🤷🏽♀️
I have a feeling he knows he’s wrong. I don’t actually think he loves or accepts Jesus. There’s something evil about him.
Not super shocking. Paul spent a lifetime studying scripture as a Pharisee and he was wrong, Christ opened his eyes.
@@Mexellencee’s so evil. I highly disagree with him. Brandon Robertson really I feel like he’s doing devils work.
Anyone else get knots in their stomach listening to this young man? Keep him in your prayers 🥺
Yes!! I couldn't think of the words to how I was feeling expect "hard"... but yes! That's exactly what was happening! 💔😔🙏🏼
I was just really sad. 😞
No
Lmbooo I feel the same way
It's so so pathetic. He's so lost
At 14:10 he says “ I don’t reject the word of God I reject the Bible.” WOW!!!!!!!
Using Bible education for evil. Sounds like Satan to me. Satan knows the Bible as well as any scholar.
- "Lovinig homosexual relationships don't bring death"
- "Well they don't bring life." 😂
😂
What a cut 😂😅
It depends: a couple of lesbians still can have in-vitro...
Imagine how many lives these people could save if the focused on the main thing Jesus talked about……. POVERTY!
But these “godly men” don’t give a spit about human life.
I’m glad they are losing the war for the future.
🎉
@@zanir2387 they don't bring life either without help.....from God's intended partner for a female, a man.
Brandon is so ridiculously prideful. Pride comes before the fall.
He is just like all of the other lost sheep who try in vain to justify their sin and sacrilegious lifestyle. How shameful.
Hi Deion, this is often a misquote that changes textual and contextual impact. Checkout proverbs 16:18, as pride leads to “destruction.” Much worse. Not trying to be another internet cop, really appreciate you commenting in truth, as you are correct on pride driving the wedge between truth and darkness here. But it leads to destruction, haughtiness comes before a fall. Unfortunately I’ve lived the latter more than I’d like as a Christian and thankful for the blood of Jesus as well as the conviction of the Holy Spirit.
Pride comes before destruction. A common misquoting of scripture.
@@bxdnlftd6231 You are right, pride goes before destruction is correct
We all need Jesus. Pray before you accuse
This was needed. The 2 best apologists and respected men of the faith defending the word of God against progressive ideology. I pray this blesses people who struggle like Brandon does. We ought to all pray for Brandon to find the true Christ and repent of his false doctrines that are leading people to hell.
2 best apologists 😂😂😂 that’s a good one
The two best apologists for Calvin and his god, Augustine:
"Augustine is so wholly within me that if I wished to write a confession of my faith, I could do so with all fullness and satisfaction to myself out of his writings" (John Calvin)
@@TheInfinityOK ALL THROUGH the New Testament we are told to "rebuke" and "exhort" and "encourage" and verses like the following contradict what you said.
[You should ask yourself why you're contradicting God's Word. If you simply don't know it then you need to be "in" it i.e reading and cogitating on it all through the day every day].
"I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then you would have to go out of the world.
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner: do not even eat with such a one.
For what have I to do to judge them also that are outside [the church]? Are you not judging them that are inside?
But God judges them that are outside. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person" (1 Corinthians 5:9-13)
"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them" (Ephesians 5:11)
"Do not judge according to appearance, but judge righteously [according to righteousness]" (John 7:24)
Jesus COMMANDS that we discern/judge by their FRUIT i.e ACTIONS.
There's a reason for that: it's because, as EVERY book and letter in the New Testament (apart from Philemon) warns us, "grievous wolves" (Acts 20:29) infiltrate churches and assemblies (some spiritually dangerous but others physically abusive or murderous!) and we need to DISCERN before opening up and fellowshiping with them.
"For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.
A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh" (Luke 6:43-45)
@@TheInfinityOK God has spoken. It's in His Word.
You either "hear" (spiritually-speaking) or you don't.
"My sheep hear my voice and I know them and they follow me" (John 10:27)
@@TheInfinityOK That's ridiculous.
The Pharisees and Saducees obviously DIDN'T read and/or believe Scripture because they failed to recognize the Messiah - who was described, prophesied and foreshadowed throughout the Old Testament, standing in front of them.
JESUS, Paul and the other epistle writers quote Scripture (the Old Testament obviously) repeatedly.
Paul quotes or refers to the Old Testament at least 80 times in his epistles and the writer to the Hebrews makes *32* references to the Old Testament in that one letter alone.
You really have no idea what you're talking about and don't seem to have a "teachable spirit" either.
Scripture is so clear on this issue. It’s honestly shocking he can read these same verses and not see how clear they are.
That's what the 'fake' Christians do.
They see what the scriptures say, but twist or manipulate them to justify their sinful lifestyle.
His eyes to see and ears to hear aren't open...yet(hopefully).
I admire Brandan's willingness to dialog and the tone of the debate. Poor fella feels like watching a train wreck. Pray for Brandan.
I’m SO glad you had Brandon on the show. Great debate. I pray his eyes are opened. He’s leading so many people astray.
Correct me if I'm wrong but has there ever been a false prophet apostate who turned from their ways.
Someone this famous.
He has built his entire life on a lie to make himself feel better about being gay.
But what's worse
He causes millions of people to be led astray
I doubt it.
He isn’t gonna lead anyone astray if the people weren’t astray already.
He’s a reprobate
It’s gonna take a while for the demons to be shook loose from that young man
He’s so fueled by pride that he aggressively rejects truth
Lord please pour out your truth in Brandon’s heart 🙌🏼
Amen
Amen
Amen
Problem is he has no desire for that truth. He is doing his father's work.
The conviction in his eyes a couple times in the conversation is proof that he knows the truth already. No amount of money and time on his part will change that.
Great video and debate. Brendan's argument went off the rails the moment he said that he wasn't sure that there was an objective moral standard.
If that's the case, then he has no way to justify any of his claims, as well as no basis to challenge Scripture.
In essence, he defeated his own argument the moment he said that. I'm glad these two gentlemen didn't let him run from that.
How you guys stay so calm is clearly a work of the Holy Spirit 🥰
Definitely! I would be pulling my hair out. I don't know that id be able to stay so calm with so much grace. These guys are truly doing God's work 🙏🏼😊
It's most upsetting!!! because this guy is preaching falsehoods and misinterpretations to many.
@@kedduff1814 but like I reminded my daughter last night that there is an elect and unfortunately that means not everyone was chosen to go to heaven. I got started on Joel osteen and within 3mths I had good enough discernment to know he was a false teacher. The Holy Spirit showed me the truth even starting from the bottom. Now only 2yrs later I am sound enough on theology that my long time Christian friends complaint me for it. Its totally a work of the Holy Spirit and I wasn't the one who went searching he ripped me right out of my destructive lifestyle and sin and had me a new heart of flesh no more stone! Praise God!
Amen. That's definitely of God. God has anointed them to teach and defend the faith in a Godly way. Praise God for it...📖💥🙏
Yes, tell me about it brother.
"Son, I was studying this stuff when you were still in diapers." I laughed out loud so loudly that my wife came from across the house to find out what I was watching.
I like how he actually got mad that James played his game after he started it.
He is arrogant and will soon fall in his wickedness
Hilarious. I also Lol
And just like when he was in diapers, he's still full of $hi7 😆 🤣 😂
Dude. Same. I had to pause to laugh. Mic drop moment
Imagine spending 100,000 dollars to internally justify your sinful lifestyle
This was my exact thought when he made that statement about his tuition.
Imagine voting away marriage rights for millions just to appease yours
@joshuagonsalez653 marriage existed long before religion and in particular long before yours. I’m not hijacking’s anything, me being able to get married has zero bearing on your marriage or anyone else’s. The only person trying to hijack rights is yall. How is it that the religious right in this country feels that they posses the right to tell other grown adults if they can marry another grown adult or not?
You do the exact same thing. You may not have spent money to do it, but every living being does exactly what you have just described, in varying levels.
joshuagonsalez653 it’s y’all that initiated the whole using the legal system to oppress and stifle the rights of other people. Not us. And y’all say I can be in a relationship but as soon as I want to lock that relationship up into a marriage then y’all want to step in and say that my rights end where your belief begins. You do realize how frustrating that is right?
To falsify truth you have to chase your tail and set up a dizzying maze of word salad and delusion. The truth is clear, concise and to the point. Great job by pastor Jeff and Dr White.
And it has to be that way. Not everyone is a scholar. This is remarkably poor scholarship.
Beat comment on here. You put words to my thoughts and heart.
*BEST
I'm against everything Brandon is spreading.
Thank you guys for spreading the true word of God.
Thank you Jeff for being as direct as you were. That could very well win this man’s soul.
This discussion is the reason that freedom of speech must be preserved. I have been struggling with this topic, but hearing all the ideas clearly laid out and respectfully explored and explained by both sides I now see where the errors in thinking and interpretation are. Thank you gentlemen for a truely epic and totally worthwhile conversation. Pray for everyone grappling with this.
Agreed. Let people speak be heard and you can and will see who is who and be able to make decisions for yourself.
@@nateh.512that’s why censorship is so pervasive right now because a certain side does NOT want different opinions and thoughts out in the public square because the ultimate goal is zero dissent in opinion. It’s scary.
Never trust a guy who smiles like an idiot the whole time
We need more of these debates! This is great content to watch as a Christian
Already within the first 12 minutes, the cognitive dissonance from Brandon is jaw-dropping. Thank God for Jeff standing against the words of wolves with such humility and strength.
The first 12 mins are a terrible example by the host of how not to debate. Brandon kept getting interrupted all the time. It’s hard to know what the guy actually thinks when he’s hardly had a chance to say it.
I don’t think it was difficult at all to know exactly where he stood… I think they all got a little excited at times and interrupted but it was definitely not hard to understand where Brandon was coming from
@@sotiriosnovatsis4529, gotta shut down heresy.
Such is the case with most whose eyes have not been opened, hearts not softened.
@@hoosierhyperwatch5884 But who's the heretic? All of us are sinners. We choose the parts of the Bible that suit us, ignoring the parts that don't back our opinions. No one can completely follow everything in the Bible- it contradicts itself at times. The good book was written by multiple authors and they simply put in their own accounts. Some of them never even met Jesus.
It is really cool to see James and Jeff win the debate by simply reading the Bible. Great job gentlemen👍
@XXxxIcekingxxXX I wonder if Jeff ever read Leviticus 25:44-46? Sounds like he hasn't.
Are you serious?
@@robertcarlyle6102 what’s wrong with it?
The bible plainly says that homosexuality is wrong. If you have these tendencies, it is your responsibility to no give in.
that’s too big of an ask
The only thing I can say about Brandan Robertson is "professing to be wise, they became fools"
Their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened
This whole debate makes me anxious, as I am not confrontational! This poor delusional man is so full of intellictional gibberish in an effort to defend his sin. I have a Grandson that's extremely well educated and gay and this guy reminds me of him. However I committed him onto the Lod when he was 14 and I'm standing on this hope and promise. Praying for clarity and healing for this fellow.
Never stop praying for your family members. I was apostate for 30 years. He saved me 3 years ago.
I have a PhD, I promise you it means nothing. Jesus said, “I thank you father that you have not revealed these things to the wise and to the intelligent; but to little children”.
Don’t be intimidated by your grandson’s education. Pray for him and minister to him by challenging him with simplicity. Don’t underestimate how much that will challenge him.
There’s demons you have to understand when people are under bondage like that demons are allowed to enter in and they destroyed their mind. It’s not just that person talking him going off him and all that stuff is demons manifesting
@@sheluvssmokedupeyes1 Absolutely. It will take a lot of prayer so that God intervenes..
Prayer is so important and powerful. Never think it's a mundane act when talking to God on behalf of others.
I found this hard to stomach as a Christian. You can not pick and choose scripture to fit your needs or lifestyle. The scripture is not a buffet or menu that you pick what you need based on circumstances. Gods word is never changing, is not debatable it is above approach and will not be challenged or changed or added to. You guys are amazing and I’ve learned so much. You are so right in being harder on him because he will held to a higher standard being a False Prophet. We can not lean on our own understanding or feeling but on God’s Word.
Man “I found this hard to stomach as a Christian” I didn’t believe your comment at first but man after watching…. We need Jesus if Brandon is preaching to people lol
@@noneofyourbusinessatthistime I totally agree. I’ve watched another interview with him and he twist a lot of scripture and uses what he what’s but not all of it.
AMEN!!!
AMEN!!
That is all Christians do hahaha, pick and choose parts from a fiction book written by goat herders 😂
The reason Brandon should have his feet held to the fire is bc he claims to be a Pastor which means his false teachings are leading people straight to hell. Therefore Pastors have an obligation to call him out for his false teachings and misrepresenting our Lord. Pauls 2nd letter to Thess he warned them against spirits, people and letters written that would deceive the Church. Bravo to these brothas bc dude has a doctrine of devils and a new book coming out. Scary bro
I have to give glory to God for this episode and the patience and poise of Pastor Jeff and Pastor White. I do not think at my current stage in life that I would have the ability for such grace in this conversation.
Bro, I love your channel.😁
Is this video already out ?
@@Trialbyfire9 yes
@@PunkEvangelist hey thanks my friend!
You can be LGBT and Christian
I see; pride, intolerance, and immaturity. I am not a scholar in Theology but I can usually tell when someone is being dishonest. I will pray for this young man to humble himself and for his eyes to open to the Truth. To me it is clear that Pastor Jeff and Pastor James are showing their love and respect, and seeing this interaction fills my heart. Thank you for sharing this. Praise the Lord.
Amen!
That young man really incapsulates the cultural war and the hate towards truth that the west is facing today. We need to pray not only for this young man, but for all our leaders in power that they may make Godly decisions.
What’s crazy is I see that too… but on both sides. I pray for all of them grow into a deeper knowledge of the spirit of God. None of them had any business arguing over the things of God. Rivalrous. Speaking over each other. Puffed Up & Proud. Insisting on their own way… We are supposed to LISTEN to each other so that we can CONSIDER & KNOW THAT HE IS GOD. Anyone who believes that Jesus came in the flesh is FROM God. You’re supposed to listen to each other so you can HEAR GOD. They both missed out on something that could’ve been MIRACULOUS because the glory that God shows we we as believers come together in Love to testify to what God has shown us & why. GOD gets the glory when what bigger than just OUR MIND, OUR understanding, what WE hear. We have to do better. This was a loss on behalf of the whole Body. Tragedy.
Apart from the “son, I was studying this stuff when you were in diapers, don’t give me your 10 years.” Although I agree with James and Jeff, comments like that do nothing to aid the conversation. You can win an argument but still lose the person, and speaking like that is a sure way to do it.
@@Havoc2317 💯. Well said.
The most astonishing part is that a congregation willingly sits under this man's teaching. May the Lord open their eyes
Because he tells them what they want to hear. 🤷
@@muddinmann
Exactly!
It's astonishing how perverse this has become.
They seek after false teachers who will tell them what they want to hear. Brandon belongs to satan(sadly) and he, like Satan, wants to be worshiped. His “congregation” feeds his arrogance by giving him an audience. Jesus, Brandon willfully has rejected You. Only Your Holy Spirit can convict him. He refuses rebuking, teaching and correcting by true followers of Jesus.
He tickles their ears!
The 100%%% cold truth is , ya'll ready?? Brandon will never submit to his bias torward progressive Christianity because he is GAY. End of story. All of his arguments have an underlined tone on defending this practice of sin he wont give up. Sorry, I know it sounds harsh but thats the truth. Every arguement he submits defends his world view that is personal to him and not the truth.
I agree, it’s extremely obvious.
The only inconsistency in Jeff's argument is that he says murder is wrong and then proceeds to murder this guy's argument.
😮
I liked when Dr White asked him then what is life? Oh you can't answer? I thought you were a reverend. I was like OOOOOOOOOOH.
BA-DUM TSHHH!
😀
Boom 💥
When he said Isaiah 53 isn’t about Jesus my jaw went to the floor
What? Gosh.. just started this.. and to read this.. is 🤯!! Who does Brandon say, Isaiah 53 is about???
Hahah me too!!
SAME!!!!
Ask a Jewish Rabbi and they will tell you that, in the context of the rest of Isaiah, chapter 53 is about Israel.
@@DIBBY40 I have read the entire book of Isaiah I don’t need a rabbai to tell me a wrong interpretation
"Thy word is Truth". Thank you both for standing on this.
Brandon accepts only what he wants to , whatever is convenient for him .
My dad was caught cheating with several men. I was an adult when I knew about it. I'm the eldest of 3, and I have 2 brothers. My mom shielded us from knowing this because she knew it would destroy us. She bore the pain of it alone for most of their married life, did not have the courage to leave my dad because of us, and was not completely reconciled until she died 2 yrs ago. It broke our family, devastated us for years of our lives. If not for Jesus, I would not have learned to love and forgjve my dad. How could you say that consensual, same sex relations won't harm others? It broke at least 4 lives, and if not for grace my life would for sure be ruined.
Homosexuality is sin. Sin destroyed my parents' marriage. Sin destroyed our family. But through all this, Jesus upheld me. Jesus kept me from total ruin. Jesus taught me what love is, what forgiveness is. And I still have hope for my dad to turn from his sinfulness and turn to follow the teachings of Christ that says that his homosexual lifestyle will separate him from Christ. I want him to be saved, it means loving him by telling him that his sin will destroy him.
I’m sorry to hear about your family, but homosexuality wasn’t what broke the 4 lives though, it was the cheating wasn’t it? If your father had slept with several women would that not be equally devastating and immoral?
@@johncall528 In this case though, he slept with other men, so it was indeed homosexual lust that ruined this particular family. Comparing one sin to another does not change that.
@@johncall528That is what I was thinking. In my opinion, the 'devastating' aspect may be more, or less, dependant on the objectivity of an individual. However, it is equally as immoral if the cheating partners were women.
@@johncall528 Of course it would, her father broke the vows of his marriage weather it with a man or woman, other than the shock factor is irrelevant. Then again, I think Jesus takes special disgust in homosexuality as it is a violation of the natural order of life, female and male. So no I would not say that this sin is "equally immoral" homosexuality has a certain effect on society and it's proper order. This is way the liberals being led by Satan are striving to get "progressive teaching about abnormal sexual practices into public education because Satan 's job after all is to confuse society.
@@johncall528but he didn't sleep with women, he slept with men. Try and keep track. Homosexuality is a sin. All all who practise this sin without repentance will be going to hell. When you die, you will see that no practising homosexual will be in heaven. Then where will your arguments be then? It's easy to be alive today and support these arguments, but when you are on deaths door facing jesus, let's see if you will still have the same rational then!!
“If you believe what you like in the Gospel, and reject what you don't like, it is not the Gospel you believe, but yourself.”Augustine - Brandan Robertson
Exactly!! 💯
Do you follow God's word on how to keep and treat your slaves?
@@radscorpion8 Not relevant where I live.
@@radscorpion8 we don’t have slaves anymore , unlike the society of Bronze Age near east. Non applicable
“Sexual immorality is idolatrous”. This was a mic drop moment from Jeff. I could spend $100,000 and a decade of studying to try to justify my lusts. Still doesn’t make it truth
It’s so helpful to hear a dialogue rather than an ‘echo chamber’ monologue between two camps that are diametrically opposed. Thank you for both showing great respect and grace and self-control whilst clearly challenging Brandon to repent of his false teaching. I pray in Jesus’ name that Brandon will indeed respond to Christ (the real Jesus) and renounce every word of deceit that he has written or said. And may God bless your ministry, too.
I've struggled my whole life. And I wanted so much that what I was struggling with was not wrong. I grew up close to the Lord and always a church goer. But no matter how hard I tried to balance both worlds, it just did not jive. I wanted to know the Truth. I spent years going to alters, fasting, and praying asking God to show me it was ok and if not, take it away. I was with the mindset that how can something that seems so right be so wrong. The Father ultimately showed me that there is a way that seems right to a man, but the end thereof leads to destruction. It just that simple. This flesh is sinful and cannot be subjected to God, but we ARE given the power to overcome. That's what this whole thing is about, whether you struggle with homosexuality or any other sexual dysphoria, this flesh cannot submit to God. But it is the power of God through His Son, that we overcome. We overcome by the blood of the Lamb and by the Word of our testimony.
God bless you ! You are a humble response to the Lords truth, and it lead you to life 🙏🏽 Praise God
Hi Mark, that made me think of how we can not have a foot in both worlds.
Thank you for sharing. This is a powerful and enlightening comment for me
We turn from out sin and follow the path God has prepared. If we refuse he kills us. It is pretty easy to do when you understand the consequence of rejecting the promise.
@@chrissy1310as it says, we can't sit at the table of God and the table of demons.
Both James and Jeff publicly wiped the floor with brandon’s worldview, i love this.
Brandon lost just by showing up.
Yes they did!
@@winburna852
Unfortunately you’re right. I have no idea what Brandon was hoping to achieve by this discussion..
glad he still did though!
Yes, hate the gays!!! Lmao. Gtfo. Yall just need to leave gays alone. What's up with yall hate? You don't have to shit on others to go to church on sunday
Jeff eluted to Brandon’s primary root issue. He lived a life feeling guilty over his lust, and then spent “$100,000 and 10 years” towards developing a position that justified his sin.
Yes!! And guilt comes from the devil! He should've been feeling conviction not guilt!
I pray that he can some day say that the money and time he spent to justify his sin is ultimately what lead him to the actual truth. That one day it won't be a part of his beliefs anymore but a part of his revelation.
Actually it was $180,000.
@JeritheOkapi what was? Brandon said 10yrs and 100k$
@@tinsakamp You are correct the first time I listened to the podcast of Apple and it sounded like he said $180k but on the YT version it was clearly $100k.
watching this back today and I like how at the 49 minute mark James White is like..."naw I'm done here...what's happening on Twitter..."
There is such a pride level in his tonality.. that it is more of the strength of his debate than the very arguments he gives.
Made me laugh out loud when Brandon said I accept many parts. My man you do not get to pick and choose. That is not the manner by which the Bible is applied to a Christian faith.
Everyone chooses what they get to follow in the Bible because they believe they are led by the Holy Spirit. Reformed Christians are no different than liberal Christians in that manner.
@@josuevaladez1176yea that's not how it works my dude.
@@jokinghazard4022 how so? Tell me how you handle your slaves? Do you greet everyone with a holy kiss? Do you let women not wear jewelry? Or do you look at a historical context and come to your own conclusion? It’s no different than any other Christian in past generations claiming to be enlightened by the Holy Spirit. The great thing today thanks to progress is that the Church doesn’t get to pull a John Calvin and murder someone for “apostasy.”
@@josuevaladez1176 I agree that different “denominations” hold different interpretations of certain passages…. But how do you defend homosexuality which is clearly wrong in the bible- that’s the problem with this false “pastor.”
You’re reading ancient texts and ancient people and trying to modernize their beliefs by your own consciousness and feelings. I don’t “defend” homosexuality because I don’t hold to ancient commandments of the Old Testament for my standards of living nor do I think the writers were discussing monogamous gay relationships. Calling someone who loves gay people a false pastor is the same equivalent of calling someone a false pastor for loving interracial couples. It’s not “clearly” wrong but conservatives make it to be even though they ignore science and literature because of their fundamentalist view of the book.
A prime example of someone who is so open minded his brain fell out
Well said 😂
Exactly!!! I hope the guys got him at least thinking about the facts not views he's added to the Bible.
Brandan Robertson is anything but open minded. Just sick and deceitful. And he's the narrow minded one here.
@loveisthekey5737 amen
@@JoyNoelle. I really can’t take the credit here, I heard the expression somewhere else
This is extremely hard to watch. Its not even a debate. Its just heartbreaking. I pray for brandons soul.
“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” 2 Timothy 4:3. Brandon is the perfect example of this verse. He admitted in the video that he spent over $100,000 studying homosexuality and how it pertains to the Scripture. He has surrounded himself with teachers and teachings that allow him to follow his own lusts to which he himself has admitted to having struggled with in the past!
I look around and keep hearing 2 thessalonians 2:10
"And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."
🙏🏼
Omgoodness this is dead-on. This is why I feel discernment ministry is so important. Woe to those teaching these heresies.
I wanted to give credit to James. Although a lot of people accuse him of being a meanie, I thought his kindness and compassion and patience really came through in this discussion. Well done
Lol. James is like one of the biggest softies in Christendom. (meant as a compliment) it is astounding that people think he's mean.
@@benjamincamping8134 he probably just disagrees with their theology so he’s considered a meanie 🤷🏼♂️
@@benjamincamping8134 completely agree. The fact that he has spent decades debating heretics and still has any sense of patience with young men like Brendan shows that he truly does exhibit the fruit of the Spirit.
@@benjamincamping8134 Guess James forgot the 11th commandment
"Thou shall be nice."
Joking of course
I just wish James White actually had as much grace and patience with fellow Christians that disbelieve Calvinism. He is more peaceful with unbelievers and heretics.
Man the denial and mental gymnastics this guy does to apply his own understanding, desires, and attitudes to justify his own sin, and then LEAD others to do so… it’s simply heartbreaking and astounding.
Homosexuality is inconvenient
It is
Cherry picking is easy. People do it every day to justify the wave of life.. There's Homosexuals are bored and want to be accepted by God's people. So someone taught them they could just don't follow everything in the bible. Very sad to see.
A heartbreaking and astounding level of pride. 😢
I use all of the great formal (word for word) translations. Including everything from Tyndale’s NT, Geneva, Matthew’s Bible, 1611 KJV, KJV, NKJV, CSB,ESV,NASB 77 and 95, and now the LSB. I will never hinder my learning by using only one translation. It has almost never failed that I learned something deeper about a particular scripture by consulting multiple translations and researching why they chose to translate it the way they did. Also, buy a full-notes NET Bible just for the notes. You’ll be glad you did. God Bless!
I've had plenty of experiences of people talking out of both sides of their mouth and contradicting themselves, but this is a whole new level. The hosts here have way more patience than I would have. This kid is taking some very simple things, tries to make it way more complicated than it really is, and seems to think that makes him look intelligent. It doesn't.
A friend of mine made a statement years ago that has stuck with me in regards to scholarship. “Don’t theologize yourself into unbelief.”
Well said
Well said
Well said
Well said
I remember that from seminary. I appreciate theology but it's not scripture. At the end of the day, it's a fancy opinion.
Just because a sin becomes more common doesn’t make it any less a sin.
For real. No opinion carries authority. Not even the majority opinion.😅
Also, just because it's legal under civil law, doesn't make it acceptable under God's law.
Thank you for calling out and confronting the false teacher Brandon Robertson. We need more pastors and Christian’s who have the backbone to call out the apostate and false teachers.
You cannot believe only the scriptures that you like and toss out what you don’t.
Brandon needs to be set free.
Thanks again Gentlemen for having the boldness to point out false teachers.
Blessings!
Once Brandon brought up the “you’re hurting communities” he said all that he needed to say.
Sounds to me like that feeling he expressed led him to make up his own Christianity.
Which is a really big problem. Pastor Allen parr calls this Buffett Christianity. Being picky with Wat sins to follow and which ones to not follow.
@Barefoot Kid59 could you kindly send the link.
I came to the comments immediately after hearing that
Galatians 1:8-9 + Galatians 1:10
Yep and that's the whole problem right there. Pastor Chris Rosebrough from fighting for the faith points out that this is idolatry because they're worshipping an image of God that doesn't exist... an image that THEY created of him. Not only that, but this community is ALL about their feelings...they idolize their own emotions, desires and pleasures. That too is idolatry. They'll go to bat defending their "movement" more than the actual Faith.
Brandon :Loving consensual same sex relationships don't bring death
White: They don't bring LIFE
The serpent: "Surely you will not 'die'....."
I LOL'd so loud at that HAHAHA. What a line.
Boom 💥💪😎
@@Diligent-dp7gi additionally there are very real, physical consequences as well.
@@andrewmorse2181 Yes. Rom 1:27 and Prov 14:12 immediately come to mind.
Finally, a TH-cam video with Brandon Robertson that doesn't have the comments disabled.