Amazing: Christian Pastor vs. Jehovah's Witnesses
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- Watch this powerful new video of Pastor Jeff Durbin vs. two Jehovah's Witnesses on the street in downtown Salt Lake City. Pastor Jeff talks to these Jehovah's Witnesses about the true identity of Jesus Christ and challenges them. We hope this conversation is a blessing to you and encourages you to get engaged with the Jehovah's Witnesses around you! Tell someone about the video!
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When you speak about what Paul said, do you also refer to the six books falsely, lyingly, attributed to Paul? How about 2nd Peter and the Epistle of Jude, which all serious academics also say are forgeries? Does your god really spread his word thru forgeries? It's like starting an economy using a mix of genuine and counterfeit currency. Makes zero sense.
@@eew8060 I pray that some of the folks that this pastor speak to reach a saving knowledge of who Christ Jesus really is. One life saved from hellfire is absolutely worth all the hard work. God bless.
@@sammia4227 Yes it is 🕊✝️❤️😊
You can be LGBT and Christian 👨❤️👨
Do these women know you are filming them and that you are putting them on the internet?
Perhaps the most amazing and cordial conversation I have ever seen concerning the Deity of Christ. Great job! -Mark Spence
Indeed, I know people that are believers but still say there is no point in discussing with JW people becuause the discussion will lead nowhere, very disappointed by this way of thinking.... Well, I think with a little bit of research, love and full guidance from the Holy Spirit, it can be done so nicely. Jeff surely proves how discussions with them can be so fruitful and eye opening even for those who grew up with these teachings.
than clearly you do not follow Jeff - still doesn't matter - these women do not want the truth and are incapable of following logic, they do not want God
@@AskRemy So then, leave them in their deceitful state becuase they are a lost case anyway? I think we are to sow the seed as we do with other people in general. Indeed, if you want to speak with them, you need patience, knowledge about their teachings, great knowledge of the Bible and a humble heart and the motivation NEEDS to be love. Let's remember we have the Truth, we are to deliver it then it is God's job to convict their hearts. There are quite some examples of JW members who came to faith after the true Gospel was transmitted to them.
@@AskRemy of course they want God! They're just deceived. May God have mercy and guide them. Jeff is deceived too. The One God is Jesus Christ's God. And Jesus is the Son of God. May God have mercy and guide all of us. It isn't that believers don't want God. My heart weeps. For the oppression and confusion both false Watchtower and false trinity dogma have caused.
@@AskRemy I get what you say, they are so rooted in their false teaching that many times it seems pointles talking to them but often we can see this level of hardening in unbelievers, but we do our duty of shining the light. That's our job. People may not show on the outside but the truth may do its work slowly from the inside. God can make them see also and He can do by His people who are willing to be used. We so often wait for immediate results but often God works not as we might expect.
I need to watch more of your channel, 2 Mormons just came to my doorstep to preach to me, and I didn't try and convert them and stop them from preaching false Gospel because I didn't feel I was equipped enough to do so. I need to read and prioritize the Bible, pray for me and these Mormon missionaries.
I watched an Apologia Studios video for the first time almost 5 years ago. It was Jeff speaking to Mormons. I was very interested because my mil is Mormon and my husband exmormon.
What hit me was I did not know the Bible well enough and didn’t feel I could share the gospel. It was extremely convicting and pushed me to begin spending time in Gods word daily. I have watched many videos from Apologia Studios and some other Pastors that help me understand the culture of that time.
I hope this video has the same effect on you. Apologia Studios has tons of videos on witnessing to Mormons and other no Christian groups.
Praise God that you clicked on this video!
Watch the Bible vs Joseph smith this will help shed some light on how to reach the mormon
dude i feel you, you feel guilty when you dont answer or have nothing to say
I would say rather we should stay in the Word more to have them ready on our lips. I am struggling a little with that myself and watching to Mitch TH-cam
ISSAIAH 42:8
New Living Translation
“I am the LORD; that is my name!
( I WILL NOT GIVE MY GLORY TO ANYONE ELSE,)
nor share my praise with carved idols.
New International Version
Matthew 16:27
(For the Son of Man IS GOING TO COME IN HIS FATHER ’s GLORY )
with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.
JESUS AND THE FATHER SHARE THE SAME GLORY. TOP 2 VERSES
◄ John 17:5 ►
New International Version
And now, (Father, glorify me in your presence WITH THE GLORY I HAD WITH YOU BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN.)
ISSAIAH 43:10
New International Version
“You are my witnesses,” declares the LORD, “and my servant whom I have chosen, (SO THAT YOU MAY KNOW AND BELIEVE ME AND UNDERSTAND THAT I AM HE.)
BEFORE ME no god was formed, nor will there be one AFTER ME.
THERE IS ONLY 1 GOD, THE TRIUNE GOD, THE, FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT.
King James Bible acts 17:29
Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that (THE GODHEAD) is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
◄ John 8:24 ►
New International Version
I told you that you would die in your sins; (IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THAT I AM HE,) you will indeed die in your sins.”(these are the words of JESUS.)
BOTH JESUS AND THE FATHER SAY (I AM HE)
< Issiah 43:11 >
New International Version
I, even I, am the LORD, and (APART FROM ME THERE IS NO SAVIOR.)
◄ Matthew 1:21 ►
New International Version
She will give birth to a son, (and you are to give him the name Jesus, because (HE WILL SAVE )his people from their sins.”) JESUS IS THE SAVIOR.
◄ John 16:15 ►
New International Version
All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you.”
WOW, EVERYTHING THAT THE FATHER HAS BELONGS TO CHRIST.
EVERYTHING.
◄ Acts 20:28 ►
NEW KING JAMES
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed (THE CHURCH OF GOD, WHICH HE HATH PURCHASED WITH HIS OWN BLOOD.)
HOW DID GOD PURCHASE THE CHURCH WITH HIS OWN BLOOD?
◄ Hebrews 10:8 ►
New International Version
First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them"-(THOUGH THEY WERE OFFERED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW.)
GOD DOESN'T WANT YOUR WORKS
EVEN IF THEY ARE OFFERED ACCORDING TO THE LAW.
◄ John 6:29 ►
New International Version
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
◄ John 8:24 ►
New International Version
I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins.”
◄ Hebrews 10:5 ►
New International Version
Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,
(BUT A BODY YOU PREPARED FOR ME; )
GOD MADE A BODY FOR JESUS.
THE WORD WHO IS GOD.
JOHN 1:1
New International Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, AND THE WORD WAS GOD.
GOD THE WORD TOOK ON FLESH.
◄ John 1:14 ►
New International Version
(THE WORD BECAME FLESH) and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
philippians 2:6-7
Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
HE TOOK ON THE FORM OF A SERVANT MEANS HE WAS NOT A SERVANT BEFORE HE TOOK ON FLESH.
JUST THINK ABOUT IT, HE TOOK ON THE FORM OF A SERVANT.
HOW CAN SOMEONE TAKE ON A ROLE OF WHAT HE SHOULD ALREADY BE.
New Living Translation
JESUS GAVE HIS LIFE FOR OUR SINS, JUST AS GOD OUR FATHER PLANNED, in order to rescue us from this evil world in which we live.
◄ John 10:18 ►
New International Version
NO ONE TAKES IT FROM ME,
-(HIS LIFE)-
(BUT I LAY IT DOWN OF MY OWN ACCORD.)
I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”
HOSEA 6:6
FOR I DESIRE STEADFAST LOVE
and not sacrifice,
THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD rather than burnt offerings.
WOW THE ONLY THING GOD REALLY WANTS FROM US IS TO
KNOW HIM, AND LOVE HIM AND LOVE OTHERS.
King James bible ecclesiastes 3:17
I said in mine heart,(GOD SHALL JUDGE) the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.
Ecclesiastes 12:14
For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil.
Acts 17:31
For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.
King James Version ISSAIAH 32:22
For the LORD is our judge,
the LORD is our lawgiver,
the LORD is our king;
he will save us
Psalm 100:3
Know that the Lord Himself is God;
It is He who has made us, and not we ourselves;
We are His people and the sheep of His pasture.
Isaiah 66:16
For the Lord will execute judgment by fire
And by His sword on all flesh,
And those slain by the Lord will be many.
James 4:12
(There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the One who is able to save and to destroy; ) but who are you who judge your neighbor?
◄ Matthew 10:28 ►
King James Bible
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
◄ Revelation 1:8 ►
New International Version
(“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says THE LORD GOD,) “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”
◄ Hebrews 1:8 ►
New International Version
BUT ABOUT THE SON HE SAYS, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
JESUS DIDN'T HAVE TO SAY HE WAS GOD, BECAUSE THE FATHER
SAID IT, AND WHAT THE FATHER SAYS IS TRUE.
JOHN 8 17-18
In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is true. I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me.”
◄ John 14:1 ►
New International Version
“Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me.
King James Bible
We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
◄ Romans 7:6 ►
New International Version
But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that WE SERVE IN THE NEW WAY OF THE SPIRIT, and not in the old way of the written code.
Was a baptized Jehovahs witness for years. Happy i left, Jesus is my lord and Savior! I accept
What was it that made you convert?
@@Jack-bi8mg prob emotional
Igreja secundária de Jesus Cristo TH-cam.
Because of the truth!!! Jesus has power!!! Acts 4:12
@@viviandasilva8520 amen
As an ex-Jehovah's witness this was the hardest thing to understand but I'm glad it's making more sense the more I watch these kinds of videos. Thank you for explaining so diligently. I am so glad I moved on from the religious trauma and finally believe in the trinity.
That's something I wrestled with for a while and only in recent history came to appreciate. God knows you and I perfectly and deeply, yet, no matter how hard we try to understand and grasp Him, we hardly can because His being is far beyond our own. Sometimes I wonder what my dog thinks of me / my life. She sees me get dressed for work, leave, come back 8+ hours later, sometimes come home with groceries.. She can try all she wants to understand me and my life, and never can or will, yet I understand her immensely. All she NEEDS to do is trust me.. love me.. and knowing why I work, where our house came from, and all that extra stuff is beyind her ability to comprehend and doesnt matter. But I'm just a tick above her 'glory'. & My 'glory' is likened to a filthy rag compared to God's glory! The Trinity isn't easy to grasp because we have an infinitely powerful and incredible God who's capable of things we can't realistically wrap our heads around. The ground doesn't understand the flower. The flower doesn't understand the bee. The bee doesn't understand the dog. The dog doesn't understand the human. The human doesn't understand God. It's a beautiful dynamic you can't help but appreciate because it's the cost of having an all perfect and all powerful God. ❤
Can you expand on the religious trauma and what you mean by that?
So you believe in hell fire also now 😂😂
I had to deal with a lot of fear opening up my mind to learning what others believe. And it was hard to actually validate that I identify with another interpretation of scripture. @@headsofhiphop
No, I believe in the interpretation of hell / heaven through an Orthodox Christian viewpoint. @@davidantonucci1161
My mother was a jehovahs witness, at one point her brother who was a Christian was praying for her, she got sick and had a vision of two angels fighting for her, one of the devil and one of the Lord, the Lords angel won, and she immediately left Jehovahs witnesses and was led to follow the true Jesus of the Bible.
Sounds a scam comment if ever there was one.
Please! Not everyone out there is a moron.
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
Amen!
😂😂😂😂😂 that’s funny
Praise God
This is what I love about Jeff, he’s not a heresy hunter, he speaks truth in love, he practices love in evangelism and teaching
He also doesn't get anyone saved because he's a Calvinist dog.
Yeah I like Jeff. It's a shame he's a calvinist
have you seen how he behaves when the same approach is used on him... it doesn't turn out well...
he dodges, he says he doesn't have time, he says to send him an email that he will not respond to... and the other person exercised even more calm and humility than Jeff offers...
Jesus is NOT God himself. Hosea 11:9 states "For I am God and not man,The Holy One in your midst;" GOD is NOT MAN/HUMAN. And GOD does not change, so are you thinking GOD is a liar and changed?
@@Mr.DC3.1914 I see we found one of the Muslims....... however, Jesus is God "incarnate" or God in Flesh (see 1 tim 3:16)
God's nature does not change
God's character does not change
God's plan does not change
and yes... God planned from the beginning to manifest himself in flesh at the foundation of time....
but Jesus is not your King is he?
I really appreciate, how gentle he was with them. Glory to God alone.
What's God's name?
BIBLE TRUTH
Do you wish to learn the truth? Are you hungering and thirsty for it? Like a great boat, the stern of the world is fastly sinking. But the bow is the only way you can get out of it. Many I tell you are at the stern and crying out, this is where you need to be, this is the way. Matthew 7:13 But God is forewarning you all, there'll be many false teachers in the time of the end. 2 Peter 2:1 But the true worshipers will be recognized by this. John 4:23 Isaiah 43:10 They will go about preaching the Good News of Gods heavenly Kingdom. John 4:23 Matthew 24:14 It is written about them, that you may recognize them. They will go publicly preaching and how to house. Acts. 5:42 20:20 It is written about them, that God's name will be attached to them. Acts.15: 14-17 Psalms 83:18 Jehovah God takes no delight in the death of anyone wicked but that he should turn back and keep alive. 2 Peter 3:9 For anyone who listens to these things will keep living. Have faith in the true God, The sovereign Lord, JEHOVAH. John 17:3 Isaiah 65:13 Take a look, please at this video, tap on the link below.
You wish to learn the truth? Are you hungry and thirsty for it?
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They called him Emmanuel which means God with us
I am 62yrs old. I was always confused about Jesus and God. I thank you very much for this information. It truly was heart felt. Your words brought some tears to my eyes. I thank you Sir for your words again. God bless you and your family.
Saw in a movie where a guy in a vision saw the three, Father, Jesus, Holy Spirit. He asked which of you are God. They simultaneously said I AM. A friend used the example of cutting an apple. Can we comprehend this? No... but we accept it by faith, and relationally, we experience it. How does God dwell inside every human in a personal way? We can not.
1 Corinthians 15:24-28 is very clear about Jesus being subject to God. There are more of this kinds of verses in the bible than there are of those used to explain the trinity. Jesus prayed and relied on God to have his assignment on earth to be successful
(John 8:40) But now you are seeking to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God.
Why did the Jews want to kill Jesus? Because he spoke the truth which he had heard from God.
Why are people trying to 'kill' JWs? Same reason.
(Matthew 24:9) “Then people will hand you over to tribulation and will kill you, and you will be hated by all the nations on account of my name.
Like Jesus, JWs just cannot be ignored.
@emmanuel uzu There are just as many that say He was God in human form. BOTH are true.
But let's use the passage you chose, 1 Cor. 15. This passage affirms the trinity. When all prophesy has been fulfilled He, as Jesus Christ will return to where He was before creation.
In Genesis God said 'Let us make man in our image'.
Jesus said 'Before Abraham was I am'.
There are several passages that affirm this. John 1:1-2 agrees with Genesis. John 17:5
Col.1:17
Jesus Christ was God's miraculous revelation of Himself. Once all has been completed He and the Father will return to their original ONE.
Can we really understand this? Can we explain how He did this in human logic and reason? No. All who are born again KNOW He is God in flesh who gave Himself for our sin because no 'son of Adam' could.
@@user-dn1of4ht9s
Jesus Christ is:
1. YHWH and Elohim (Hebrews 1:8-10)(John 20:28)
2. YHWH of Hosts (Isaiah 6:5)(John 12:41)
3. Elohim (Genesis 1:1)(Colossians 1:16)(John 1:1-3)
4. The Great I AM “EGO EIMI” (John 8:58) (Exodus 3:14)
5. ADONAY (Isaiah 6:8)(John 12:41)
6. EL GIBOR “The Mighty God” (Isaiah 9:6)
7. The Alpha and Omega (Revelation 1:8)
8. The Beginning and the End (Revelation 1:8)
9. The First and the Last (Revelation 1:11)
10. The ALMIGHTY GOD (Revelation 1:8)
11. The Creator of EVERYTHING that has ever been created, including Lucifer and the entire angelic realm. (Colossians 1:15-18)
12. Jesus was and is the one and only God in a human body.(Colossians 2:9)
Love this, was raised JW, left on my own around '99, been a Christian since❤
That is ironical?
JWs are the only True Chrsiatians Jesus is leading in the fulfillment of Matthew 24:14.
Can one let us know what God's Kingdom is?
Tonga is a very confused JW, so you have to exuse him.
Mat 24:14 is a parable, as is made clear from Luke 12:41 when Peter says, “Lord, are you telling this parable for us or for all?”
Who is the faithful and discrete slave (FDS)? Is it the church, the 144,000, a slave class, the GB, etc.? If Mat 24 was prophetic instead of a parable (as is clear from the context) then wouldn't it be clear who the FDS is? If Jesus chose a group to be his FDS, wouldn't they (and others know)? Yes! Yet JW's keep changing who the FDS is.
Today the GB claims to be the FDS using circular reasoning (begging the question fallacy):
1. How do you know God chose the GB? Because the GB said so.
2. How do you know the GB are telling the truth? Because God chose the GB.
So unless you drink the cool-aid, you know that the GB isn't the FDS.
What is God's Kingdom: The kingdom of God is the present dynamic rule of God which exists alongside the eschatological hope of the full manifestation of God’s rule on earth when Jehovah Jesus comes to rule physically on earth (Rev 20:4). Contrary to what JW's teach, Jesus began his rule in 30/33 AD when he ascended to the right hand of the Father where he rules over all reatioon (Eph 1:20-23).
out of the fire and into the frying pan, you've learned nothing
JWs are Christians...you didn't pay attention. To be honest though, I grew up JW, and didn't pay any attention either.
@@derekjohnson8428 JW's are not Christians. To be a Christian, you must believe that Jesus is Jehovah (Rom 10:9-13; Kurios is being used in place of the divine name).
I grow a garden every year at my home. I go around the neighborhood & give away vegetables. I came across a JW couple. Just gave them some vegetables. They wanted to talk about the kingdom of God. Unexpected blessing the two showed up to my house today. We talked for an hour. I learned a lot & so did they. Looking forward to sharing my faith again & keeping the door open for future discussions about Jesus.
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
Very cordial but bold in his proclamation and exegesis of the Gospel. Thank you, faithful saint Jeff.
Igreja secundária de Jesus Cristo.
Love this video! As a former JW this hits home. Thank you Jeff and Apologia for continuing to preach and display love to those who are lost and deceived.
If you don’t mind, anyway you could share what pulled you out? Besides obviously the Lord dragging you out. I guess I’m asking from a human level, what started to open your eyes and what eventually was the final straw? I ask because I have really close friends who are stuck in the watchtower society
@@Johnnyprc Thank you for the question. I did not come to the decision to question and change my faith lightly. I prayed, studied, and did my own research to come to this conclusion. Everyday JWs ask people to research their faith, if anyone believes they have the truth, it should stand up to scrutiny. I encourage you to pray, to look at unbiased sources, research the history of the religion, take a close look at the bible translation you are using, and let God lead you. 1 Cor 15:20-28,
The divinity of Jesus rests on the resurrection of Jesus (Romans 1:4)
The sovereignty of Jesus rests on the resurrection of Jesus (Romans 14:9)
Our justification rests on the resurrection of Jesus (Romans 4:25)
Our regeneration rests on the resurrection of Jesus (1 Peter 1:3)
Our ultimate resurrection rests on the resurrection of Jesus (Romans 8:11)
v.27,28, "For He has put all things in subjection under His feet. But when He says, “All things are put in subjection,” it is clear that this excludes the Father who put all things in subjection to Him. 28 When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all. (NASB)" The submission the Son does not come from "inferiority," Jesus existed in the form of God. (Philippians 2:6) While Christ was on earth, He did not seek His own glory but the Father's. In the same manner the Father also gives glory to the Son by placing "all things in subjection under His feet." The subjection is in administrative order of the Godhead. A son will always be in subjection to his father, even if both are equal in substance. God the Father will always be God the Father, and God the Son will always be God the Son, and for all eternity they will always relate to each other as Father and Son.
@@haroldbailey9011 I do not mind at all Harold. Unfortunately we cannot will our friends and loved ones away from a false religion. My initial desire was to prove that the Watchtower was correct, if it is the "truth" it can be questioned, it can be scrutinized, it can be challenged. I asked God for guidance and wisdom. My first question revolved around the deity of Christ. The same names for Jehovah in the OT are used for Jesus in the NT. Jesus claimed to be God, the religious leaders new this and they tried to stone Him for blasphemy. I encourage you to keep speaking with your friends, plant those small seeds and hopefully it will urge them to do their own research and come to the correct conclusion. It is not in God's nature to lead someone in the wrong direction when they sincerely ask Him.
@@Johnnyprc He was born again. The organizations lies went out the window by the redeeming grace of God.
@@Johnnyprc Do you believe that Jesus was resurrected or recreated?
I thoroughly enjoyed this. No rudeness, no anger, just discussing the bible. And by His grace they will know Him better. Which is the essence of it.
no rudness is one thing.....talking garbage is another..
@@marmar7255who's talking Garbage here?
The issue I have is the insertion of people to make it look an organic conversation.Happens quite a lot in his videos to make it look random but there clearly inserted
Psalms 83:18) Jehovah is the Most High. (King james Bible)
(luke 1:32) Calls Jesus the Son of the Most High. Jesus is Jehovah's Son
(John 17:3) Eternal(Everlasting ) Life. Have to know them both.
@Lsmoove21 , Jesus is Jehova's son, born of a virgin Mary.
One of the Trinity.
Died and woke up from death.
Is God.
So, what's up???
Absolutely love this conversation. I wish all of his conversations were this way.
Thank you brother for explaining the truth for the unknown people who are still in unfaith I love the way you told these ladies I hope they might accepted Jesus Christ
I needed this. I'm coming back to my faith in Christ and was challenged by a coworker about Jesus' divinity on Monday. Thank you
ISSAIAH 42:8
New Living Translation
“I am the LORD; that is my name!
( I WILL NOT GIVE MY GLORY TO ANYONE ELSE,)
nor share my praise with carved idols.
New International Version
Matthew 16:27
(For the Son of Man IS GOING TO COME IN HIS FATHER ’s GLORY )
with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.
JESUS AND THE FATHER SHARE THE SAME GLORY. TOP 2 VERSES
◄ John 17:5 ►
New International Version
And now, (Father, glorify me in your presence WITH THE GLORY I HAD WITH YOU BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN.)
ISSAIAH 43:10
New International Version
“You are my witnesses,” declares the LORD, “and my servant whom I have chosen, (SO THAT YOU MAY KNOW AND BELIEVE ME AND UNDERSTAND THAT I AM HE.)
BEFORE ME no god was formed, nor will there be one AFTER ME.
THERE IS ONLY 1 GOD, THE TRIUNE GOD, THE, FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT.
King James Bible acts 17:29
Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that (THE GODHEAD) is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
◄ John 8:24 ►
New International Version
I told you that you would die in your sins; (IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THAT I AM HE,) you will indeed die in your sins.”(these are the words of JESUS.)
BOTH JESUS AND THE FATHER SAY (I AM HE)
< Issiah 43:11 >
New International Version
I, even I, am the LORD, and (APART FROM ME THERE IS NO SAVIOR.)
◄ Matthew 1:21 ►
New International Version
She will give birth to a son, (and you are to give him the name Jesus, because (HE WILL SAVE )his people from their sins.”) JESUS IS THE SAVIOR.
◄ John 16:15 ►
New International Version
All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you.”
WOW, EVERYTHING THAT THE FATHER HAS BELONGS TO CHRIST.
EVERYTHING.
◄ Acts 20:28 ►
NEW KING JAMES
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed (THE CHURCH OF GOD, WHICH HE HATH PURCHASED WITH HIS OWN BLOOD.)
HOW DID GOD PURCHASE THE CHURCH WITH HIS OWN BLOOD?
◄ Hebrews 10:8 ►
New International Version
First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them"-(THOUGH THEY WERE OFFERED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW.)
GOD DOESN'T WANT YOUR WORKS
EVEN IF THEY ARE OFFERED ACCORDING TO THE LAW.
◄ John 6:29 ►
New International Version
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
◄ John 8:24 ►
New International Version
I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins.”
◄ Hebrews 10:5 ►
New International Version
Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,
(BUT A BODY YOU PREPARED FOR ME; )
GOD MADE A BODY FOR JESUS.
THE WORD WHO IS GOD.
JOHN 1:1
New International Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, AND THE WORD WAS GOD.
GOD THE WORD TOOK ON FLESH.
◄ John 1:14 ►
New International Version
(THE WORD BECAME FLESH) and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
philippians 2:6-7
Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
HE TOOK ON THE FORM OF A SERVANT MEANS HE WAS NOT A SERVANT BEFORE HE TOOK ON FLESH.
JUST THINK ABOUT IT, HE TOOK ON THE FORM OF A SERVANT.
HOW CAN SOMEONE TAKE ON A ROLE OF WHAT HE SHOULD ALREADY BE.
New Living Translation
JESUS GAVE HIS LIFE FOR OUR SINS, JUST AS GOD OUR FATHER PLANNED, in order to rescue us from this evil world in which we live.
◄ John 10:18 ►
New International Version
NO ONE TAKES IT FROM ME,
-(HIS LIFE)-
(BUT I LAY IT DOWN OF MY OWN ACCORD.)
I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”
HOSEA 6:6
FOR I DESIRE STEADFAST LOVE
and not sacrifice,
THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD rather than burnt offerings.
WOW THE ONLY THING GOD REALLY WANTS FROM US IS TO
KNOW HIM, AND LOVE HIM AND LOVE OTHERS.
King James bible ecclesiastes 3:17
I said in mine heart,(GOD SHALL JUDGE) the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.
Ecclesiastes 12:14
For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil.
Acts 17:31
For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.
King James Version ISSAIAH 32:22
For the LORD is our judge,
the LORD is our lawgiver,
the LORD is our king;
he will save us
Psalm 100:3
Know that the Lord Himself is God;
It is He who has made us, and not we ourselves;
We are His people and the sheep of His pasture.
Isaiah 66:16
For the Lord will execute judgment by fire
And by His sword on all flesh,
And those slain by the Lord will be many.
James 4:12
(There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the One who is able to save and to destroy; ) but who are you who judge your neighbor?
◄ Matthew 10:28 ►
King James Bible
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
◄ Revelation 1:8 ►
New International Version
(“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says THE LORD GOD,) “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”
◄ Hebrews 1:8 ►
New International Version
BUT ABOUT THE SON HE SAYS, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
JESUS DIDN'T HAVE TO SAY HE WAS GOD, BECAUSE THE FATHER
SAID IT, AND WHAT THE FATHER SAYS IS TRUE.
JOHN 8 17-18
In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is true. I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me.”
◄ John 14:1 ►
New International Version
“Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me.
King James Bible
We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
◄ Romans 7:6 ►
New International Version
But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that WE SERVE IN THE NEW WAY OF THE SPIRIT, and not in the old way of the written code.
Of course there is a lot of things we can't explain.
Like all the prophecies ever since the book of Genesis.
But the truth is the truth, so far all the prophecies have come to pass.
The bible says that Jesus became a man.
New International Version
Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, (but a body you prepared for me;)
In other words before Jesus took on human nature, ( flesh).
What was he?
He was God, one member of the triune God. Because God exists in 3 father, son and holyspirit.
So before Jesus took on flesh he was one with the father.
Sharing the glory with the Father , self existing with the father in total harmony, union.
THE bible says Jesus took on the form of a servant .
In order to take on the role of a servant
You could not have been a servant.
Jesus said if you don't believe me believe the works the miracles I done.
New International Version
But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.”
It is clear that Jesus was doing the things
That only God can do.
If doing the things that only God can do
Is not good enough for someone to believe, they must be blind.
What more can you possibly want he lived out a life greater than anything written can explain.
He lived a sinless and perfect life.
No one on earth has ever done the works that he has done. He done it all.
NOONE ELSE HAS EVER DONE ANYTHING CLOSE TO WHAT HE HAS DONE.
HE LIVE THE LIFE THAT ONLY GOD COULD LIVE.
HE DONE THE THINGS THAT ONLY GOD
CAN DO.
HE FORGIVES SINS.
HE GIVES LIFE.
HE IS THE SAVIOR.
Keep pushing and dive in. Remember Christ meets a women were she is. He will meet you. 🙏
I’m struggling a bit, I’ve given my life to Christ. But I’m struggling cause I don’t understand if we’re supposed to worship Jesus, i have been. But would He correct me if He were here? Cause He always pointed to the father and I guess i just need help a but
@@GospelwithElijah one God. Don’t over complicate things. Worship of Jesus is worship of God
MORE STREET MINISTRY!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 love seeing these interactions
Yes!
I second this! I’m glad Jeff is hard at work to end abortion, but I really miss his evangelism videos. Very gifted.
He's a con artist.
@@mattr.1887 Mind expanding on that?
Read our comment - both parties sold out to their TRADITIONS. Jeff did not HEAR Paul when he read from Colossians and has an ERROR in spirit. Paul's clear teaching is found preserved for us in 1 Cor 8 v 4 to 6. Time to flee tradition. 1 John 4 v 6. Please do due diligence and read our extensive comment. ❤ Paul and Lynda
I’ve noticed that every time you’re ministering and preaching, and having a scriptural dialogue with these wonderful souls, there is always someone that comes up to you and confirms what you’re saying. It reminds me of the verse where it says everything is established by two or three witnesses. God sent that gentleman to confirm to those ladies that you are speaking the truth of God. God bless you Pastor Jeff.
Or they are planted to appear in the video, lol. Seems a little to convenient to me.
@@terrybradshaw3394 But was the scripture wrong?
Crear exposition by the Christian pastor ,we can see the Jew’s don’t do good hermenéuticas or exegesis,it teaches us to learn the Bible and not follow other people without examine their teachings with scripture.
@@johnnyqpublic1000 The scriptures are not wrong, but his "explanation" of what he claims they mean are.
The Bible clearly states Jehovah is the only true God and there is no other besides him. (Deuteronomy 4:35) [Use a Bible that doesn't replace God's name with titles, like Lord or God. Use the American Standard Version, Divine Name King James Version, Young's Literal Translation or others that still have God's name]
The Bible clearly tells us that Jehovah is God's name and that will be his name forever. (Exodus 3:15) [Again, use a Bible that doesn't replace God's name with titles, like Lord or God.]
The Bible clearly states that Jehovah will give his glory to no one else. (Isaiah 42:8)
Jesus disciples identify him as the Son of God. (Matthew 16:16)
At John 10:36 after the Jews accuse Jesus of making himself a god, Jesus corrected them and called out their false accusation of blasphemy by reiterating that he had said, "I am God's Son". If Jesus were God, he would have admitted it there instead of correcting them.
Revelation 3:14 tells us that Jesus was the beginning of creation by God, yet he tries to claim that John 1:1 which says Jesus was with God in the beginning means he was already there before the beginning. He is wrong and that is not what the Bible says.
You must read the entire bible, not just a couple of verses to get the full meaning.
@@jaimedelcastillo1302 In your biased opinion, that is. However, what Jeff does is make partial claims. (He uses bad exegesis and hermeneutics, twisting what is said to his pre-existing beliefs.) For instance, he claims that 'firstborn' in the Bible, which comes from the Greek prototokos, means "preeminent" or "the highest position", using examples of where the inheritance of the firstborn went to someone who wasn't actually the firstborn. This definition, however, was a later added definition of the word, by trinitarian scholars.
The Greek root word "Proto" literally means first or only, as in prototype. And the Greek root word "Tokos" literally means to give birth to or bring forth.
When you examine the Bible in it's entirety, it becomes clear that Jesus is not God, but the first being God created.
The other word Jesus is called is only-begotten, which comes from the Greek word monogenes. Jeff claims this means unique or one of a kind.
However, the Greek root word "mono" is the part of the word that means unique or one of a kind, so that is only a partial definition. Mono means "one or only", as in monogamous, monopoly, monocular, mononucleosis, etc.
The Greek root word "genes" means to beget or to father, as in the King begot a male heir to his throne. There are other words from this root word such as genetics, as in, "Blue eyes run in his genes."
Monogenes literally means Jesus was the only being directly created by God. How could that be? Proverbs 8:22-30 shows that after being created, Jesus worked alongside God as a master worker. Doing what? Helping create everything else.
That is why Colossians 1:15 says that by means of him, everything (other than himself as the only begotten) comes through Jesus.
Jesus was created. - Revelation 3:14
Jehovah is the only true God. - Deuteronomy 4:35; Isaiah 42:8; Exodus 3:14
Thankk you Jeff we love your work from South Africa may God continue to use you for the glory of his Kingdom
Igreja secundária de Jesus Cristo.
It's absolutely stunning how interactions such as this can remain cordial throughout the extent of the conversation. When both parties remain level-headed and sincere. Not being heady or quick to anger. This was an incredible video showing people of two differing views on a subject. The gentleman that came up and interjected 20min in was right on the money. This was a beautiful dialogue.
The only major problem is one is right and one is wrong
That is how it tends to go off the internet. People respect each other face to face
The question is not who can speak cordially. Who has the TRUTH?
@@tongakhan230 Depends on YOUR definition of the TRUTH.
For you the TRUTH means being baptized into AND in the name of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society.
If im wrong, correct me, it ALWAYS comes back to the organisation.
@@Xbot4Life : Here is some help.
(John 8:31, 32) Then Jesus went on to say to the Jews who had BELIEVED HIM: “If you remain in my word, you are really my disciples, 32 and you WILL KNOW THE TRUTH, and THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE.”
Obviously there is only ONE TRUTH.
Once the Christian Congregation was organized after Jesus' resurrection, TRUTH became apparent.
How many organizations is Jesus the HEAD of?
It was a beautiful encounter. Jeff was polite, loving and cut with the truth. It 100% takes a work of God to change the heart and open the eyes.
Polite is telling the women that they are being filmed and that you will put them on the internet.
@@fernandovriese6409 these women are promoting satan. They do not deserve anything except a trip to hell
@@fernandovriese6409 you're being filmed my numerous cameras every time you leace your house.
@@TruthIsTheNewHate84Loooool. Exactly.
@nicholastv5543 Greeting5 brother. How are you.
I really am advancing my biblical knowledge and faith getting into apologetics. This was so enjoyable to watch as a Christian that has JW neighbor and when we moved here we agreed to studies with them and enter into that world lightly for a short time. Instead of being manipulated into that. I was determined to grow my faith as a Christian and now have preached to them and 1 other JW who came to our door, needless to say they talk to us about their beliefs anymore, but we still have a very friendly, neighborly relationship and just be an example for them by the way we live.
Jw's are correct they are true Christians
That was one of the best none belligerent conversations I have ever seen beautiful....
The JWs are non-belligerent up to a point. Once the congregation learns who you are and detects that you are a challenge to the "flock", things get dicey. I studied with some local JW leadership for about six weeks. Eventually they got up and stormed out calling me a "Wolf-like one". The congregation was instructed to have nothing to do with me.
Jeff’s street evangelism is how I was introduced to Jeff’s ministry. Needless to say, it’s been a huge blessing and I’ve learned a lot from not only from his debates, sermons, and podcast, but also from watching him share the gospel with Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, pro choice advocates, and everyone in between. Seeing him use apologetics with real life application is inspiring. He’s one of the very, very few I watch doing this that truly exhibit the fruit of the spirit when he hits the streets sharing the gospel. Firm, consistent, but with a posture of grace. May God continue to bless his entire ministry. I pray the seeds planted grow with these JW.
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
@@Mr.DC3.1914 Sir, Jesus IS God as explicitly taught in scripture. I encourage you to look at Greek and Hebrew objectively and not through the lenses of false doctrines. You spamming, copying and pasting a comment throughout the comment section doesn’t make it true, either. Micheal is a created being, not Christ, who IS God.
@@LetsTalkChristMinistries FACT - The BIble NEVER called Jesus as CREATOR OR MAKER but the Bible called Jesus as MADE, COME INTO BEING, GIVEN LIFE. FACTs that you cannot deny
@@Mr.DC3.1914 👍🏽Keep telling yourself that. #delusion
@@LetsTalkChristMinistries DELUSION? maybe you are having one,. pls notice what I quoted are from the BIBLE which you obviously reject
I love that another stranger, a "passer-by", stopped and sat down to listen to the evidence of the trinity, and more.
Absolutely beautiful approach with such love. ❤ I pray I can learn from this.
Igreja secundária de Jesus Cristo.
Love in all your videos how there's always someone listening in. Like the guy at the bus stop is listening to your conversation. Cool! 😎
Perfecting timing! I work with a Jehovah witness and I share the gospel to him all of the time. Besides sharing the true gospel and the true Christ which is first and foremost the number one thing. Being an example of a Godly Christian is also a powerful testimony. He couldn’t comprehend a time that I forgave someone at work. He couldn’t for the life of him wrap his head around the fact that I could have mercy one someone so quick and so easily. It’s because he has never been eternally forgiven. Pray for my friend Matt please.
Praying for Matt. Thank you for being a faithful witness of our Risen King Jesus Christ.
@@janetcavazos3133 oh boy...😢 Yours is the typical, defensive, unloving response from a JW who completely misses the point. It's sad and illustrates the OPs point. Be blessed
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
@@janetcavazos3133 He already said who his coworker is that is a Jehovah's Witness, Matt. Did you not read his comment before replying?
Pastor Jeff, what a gracious dialogue with those lost Jehovah Witnesses. Blessings to you and your family
Jeff is not a pastor.
He is a representative of the fairly recent heretical Protestant 30:17 religion. The term pastor is reserved for those who have apostolic succession as sacred scripture teaches us. Christ said he would protect his one holy apostolic church with the spirit of truth - and it’s not Jeff’s Newfangled processing version of so-called Christianity. I wouldn’t even consider Jeff a Christian, he’s a protestant. He has rejected those who Christ sent. His Bible is missing seven books! For goodness sake. Anyone who actually knows church history knows that protestants are new on the scene - they are the wide road that Christ warned about straight to hell.
@@verum-in-omnibus1035 I'm sorry you're deceived. Come back to the truth of Jesus Christ
@@verum-in-omnibus1035 I'm so sorry you're deceived. Come back to the truth of God's word made flesh.
Dean, how do you know he's deceived? What if you're the one who's deceived, but your pride prevents you from seeing it?
Lemme guess - not possible huh?
@@mattr.1887 I have been studying my Bible every single day for the past 3 years, and four to five days a week for the two years before that and I can tell you without thinking twice about it, He is 100% deceived. I have almost crucified my pride all the way down to little or nothing. I don't think pride has anything to do with it. Blessings to you
I am just another EX. JW here. I an 77 years YOUNG. Fantastic discussion,really the best I have seen and heard. I thought i really MUST explain how I came to make sense of the TRINITY. So here is my story. God himself, for whatever reason decided to explain it to me using a simple illustration that even I could understand. When I was a young guy I was dating a girl who later became my wife. Now only a young guy could understand this. BUT; . . . Here goes. I bought a 1967 Chevell (Chevy). And I loved everything about that car. When I finally got around to meeting my then girlfriends parents, I found out her Dad was a very passionate FORD guy. Bought a new ford every year. As far as he was concerned a Chevy was a piece of junk. For the next thirty years , right up to the day he died I drove Chevy's and he drove Ford's. OK. Now here is GOD's illustration spoken audible to me. He said "Gerald if you wanted a new Ford" ? ? ? "Who would be more important; The guy digging the "iron ore" out of the ground. Or the guy working in the "steel mill" making the "iron ore" into "steel" or the guy working at the "Ford factory" making the "steel" into a new "Ford" car. So I realized immediately that GOD has a sense oh humor. But even more than that. He wanted me to make the connection that the new "Ford" in this illustration was really "Eternal life" in "Paradise". Soooo, If I want to have an opportunity to live fore ever in a good place and not a bad place I must realize that the "FATHER" and the "SON" and the "HOLY SPIRIT" all play a role in this. If even one were to go missing. Guess what? ? ? NO NEW FORD(eternal life in "HEAVEN" with GOD) ! ! ! :( :( :(
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You Jehovah carnt die he’s immortal so Jesus died there no trinity he’s 2 he needs to check Hebrew 1 3 he’s the very being in print a copy jehovah is God Jesus is the son of man no he did not say that he was God iam what he said before said Abraham I was or excited yes he lived in heaven
That’s pretty close to the modalist heresy, which most analogies of the Trinity end up in rediscovering some old heresy.
The Trinity is true bc there is one God, Yahweh. Obvious the Father is Yahweh. Jesus is equated with Yahweh, fulfilled prophecy about Yahweh, Jesus is uncreated (John 1:1, Colossians 1:15-20), etc.
We need to base our belief on the foundation of scripture. Analogies are sometimes useful, but hearing the Word is how people are saved.
Many people say “God told them” something, Mormons say this all the time. They get feelings or “personal revelation”, etc. Truth (and the more sure Word) has been given to us in scripture.
@@MansterBear rev 3 v 14 Greek word archi says he the beginning of the creation of God also Hebrews 1 v 3 says he’s a inprint or a copy of Jehovah a copy means he’s not as old has jehovah who can be Jehovah is from time indefinite to time indefinite outher words immortal so as we no Jesus died so he was not immortal but after his resurrection jehovah gave his son immortality means he carnt die so he has life in him self just like Jehovah
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus,
John 16:23
In that day you will ask me no question at all. Most truly I say to you, if you ask the Father for anything, he will give it to you in my name.
Matthew 24:36
“Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.
1 Corinthians 15:24
Next, the end, when he hands over the Kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power.
θεόν,God
θεὸς, god
John 1:18
No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him.
Exodus 33:20
But he added: “You cannot see my face, for no man can see me and live.”
John 6:46
Not that any man has seen the Father, except the one who is from God; this one has seen the Father.
1 Timothy 6:16
the one alone having immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see. To him be honor and eternal might. Amen.
Revelation 1:1
A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him,...
John 5:43
I have come in the name of my Father, but you do not receive me. If someone else came in his own name, you would receive that one.
John 12:28
Father, glorify your name.” Then a voice came out of heaven: “I have glorified it and will glorify it again.”
1 Corinthians 11:3
But I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn, the head of a woman is the man; in turn, the head of the Christ is God.
Acts 2:32
God resurrected this Jesus, and of this we are all witnesses.
Acts 4:30
while you stretch out your hand for healing and while signs and wonders occur through the name of your holy servant Jesus.”
Acts 4:27
For truly both Herod and Pontius Pilate with men of the nations and with peoples of Israel were gathered together in this city against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed,
Acts 3:13
The God of Abraham and of Isaac and of Jacob, the God of our forefathers, has glorified his Servant, Jesus, whom you handed over and disowned before Pilate, even though he had decided to release him.
John 14:23
In answer Jesus said to him: “If anyone loves me, he will observe my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our dwelling with him.
John 10:36
do you say to me whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?
Luke 22:70
At this they all said: “Are you, therefore, the Son of God?” He said to them: “You yourselves are saying that I am.”
Matthew 27:43
He has put his trust in God; let Him now rescue him if He wants him, for he said, ‘I am God’s Son.’”
Matthew 27:46, 47
About the ninth hour, Jesus called out with a loud voice, saying: “Eʹli, Eʹli, laʹma sa·bach·thaʹni?” that is, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”
At hearing this, some of those standing there began to say: “This man is calling E·liʹjah.”
John 20:17
Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”
John 8:54
Jesus answered: “If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my Father who glorifies me, the one who you say is your God.
Luke 4:8
In reply Jesus said to him: “It is written, ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’”
John 3:16
“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.
John 17:3
This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
John 4:22-24
You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews.
Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him.
God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.”
I thoroughly enjoyed that conversation.
The first Apologia Studio video that I watched (5 years ago) was Pastor Jeff witnessing to Mormons. I’m already a Christian, BUT the video convicted me that I did not know the Bible well enough.
I’ve been sincerely working on that! Daily reading Gods word.
Thank-you Jeff and Apologia Studios!!
Praise the Lord for that!
A true Christian has the right foundation and listens to Paul. Jeff read from Colossians but did not HEAR. True Christians are of 1 Cor 8 v 4 to 6 and I Cor 11 v 3 and will NOT receive a different Jesus and spirit - see 2 Cor. Read our comment to avoid error in spirit - 1 John 4 v 6 ❤ Paul and Lynda from Earnestly Contending for the faith Ministry
That was amazing/not just what you said, but the way you said it....may the "Lord of Glory" keep blessing your ministry ⭐
I thought you thought Jesus was lord, so why don’t you just say thank Jesus said I think the Lord? You guys are extremely confusing with your belief because how can you believe that God is three and three and then say that Jesus did this and then, in another breath, say that the Lord did this.. protestant Christians literally make no sense, despite them always trying to judge JW’s for their beliefs. 🤡😂
AS LDS (Christian) it's always a pleasure to speak the Glories of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Jehovah, is the great Equalizer OF the masses. He doesn't desire there to be any disputations
among us. Love and Bless each other always. I minister WITH ANY one who need my help. It could be
a prayer, a meal, yard work, fix a gate. I don't care ~ We just love serving in a pure way. I pray everyday
to bless the life of someone. Miraculously our paths cross, and we are all EDIFIED together. We also
serve those who are recovering addicts, even gay couples. We did 12-Step meetings in County Jails
for 3 years. ABSOLUTELY LOVED these incredible Citizens. Their FAITH IS PURE. Be Brave and BE NICE.
Stop ragging on the LDS Church. It's just not "in the Christian way". Rejoice in the commonalities.
There is no need in what you are doing. None. Major on the Majors, Not the minors. Just SERVE,
more doing, less yacking, Please.
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He will continue to do the work he is doing because that is what the Lord has commanded us to do.
The key word in “Christian” is “Christ”!!
He is the center of things, and we follow Him, and what He and His Apostles taught us. Your opinions on religion and tolerance are less than “minor”.
We’re all doing our best to understand the incredible power the Bible possesses.
I will say though that it makes no logical sense that Jesus would communicate in such a complicated way regarding whether or not he was God, when all the rest of his time on Earth he spoke in simple illustrations, out of LOVE, assuring that all levels of intellect could understand, granted they had the right heart condition. If you’re trying to win over as many people as possible then you’re going to make your words simple. He did not mince words. This one (out of many examples) is literally all that is needed:
John 20:17 “ Jesus saith to her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended unto the Father: but go unto my brethren, and say to them, I ascend unto my Father and your Father, and my God and your God.”
In every Bible it says “...My Father and your Father, My God and your God”
How elementary is that communication? How critical was it (so obviously) to Jesus that the message he ordered to be passed on, be intelligible?
Science is the language to explain the workings of God’s creation. Do you not think Jesus knew what a father son relationship means scientifically? And how being consistent with that would be consistent with his intent to communicate in intelligible illustrations. AKA, The Father and the son are two separate identities. I and MY father are not one. That’s the way a human understands that concept. There is no possible way in the universe to get around that, unless you possess the power of Satan to start such a confusing lie. He was the first liar, the first actor, the first mincer of words and he’s passed that on to many trusting people. Catholicism and the like have been passing down their original 5th century lie all these centuries, which was originally to steer the masses away from God. I prefer my doctrines to be written immediately after the fact, not 500 yrs later. No scholar denies that Catholicism does not follow the 1st century Christians. They blatantly disobey many of Jesus and God’s simple orders. One of the biggest ever is to not worship false idols. The cross is one. There is literally not one single mention of the cross anywhere in the Bible at all. Check for yourself. The literal Hebrew translation for starros is stake. No scholar denies that either. Jesus died on a stake, not a cross. The T in cross represents the Pagan God Tammus. That’s not honoring Jesus. Also, why would you ever want to be remembered by the horrible thing you were poorly treated and murdered on? That’s not a loving way to remember our savior. Jesus never requested that a single soul do that. Not one character in the Bible gave permission to do that. Read it yourself so you can be sure to not be had by people that claim to know better than you.
Another example: Matthew 23:9 “And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.” - Jesus Christ
Religions that believe in the trinity also disobey this order. Catholicism calls their priests “Father”. Again, Jesus did not mince words. When he says not to do something, you do not do it. At all. We all know that Jesus and God could see the future. Do you not think one of the biggest things they wanted to warn us against was “the false friends of Christianity.”
One of the most worldly iconic expressions in the religious category is the Catholic people calling their priests “Father”.
Jesus also said, “By this all will know that you are my disciples- if you have love among yourselves”
Jesus also said, “By this all will know that you are my disciples- if you have love among yourselves”
Why do you think so many people hate Christianity? Because all denominations but one participate in one or more of these things as regular practice: war, divisive politics, high levels of revenue for their churches, child molestation, divorce, etc.
Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t participate in any of these things.
@@alexandernathanielruvalcab2411 And WHO/WHAT, is, GOD the FATHER;
Chopped Liver?
Jesus himself says himself in revelations he says " I am the Omega and Alpha the beginning and the end , the Lord Almighty "
Jesus literally say it in revelations. He is The Omega and Alpha beginning and the end.
Which is the exact quote GOD the Great I Am says.
I do believe it says all this in Revelations chapter 1.
Nope Yhwh gave the revelation to Jesus right? So that title when applied to Jesus is a title given under authority from a higher power.
Plus it also shows Jesus is not God because he is being given knowledge and he, Jesus is not omniscient because he does not know everything.
Quoting this does not help the trinitarian view.
Explain Mark 16:19 After the lord Jesus had spoken to them he was taken up to heaven and sat down at the right hand of god.
Jeff you’re amazing it’s sad no matter how much you read it to them in black and white still no grasp of the scriptures you read to them clearly God Bless you Pastor Jeff you inspire me to read more AMEN
This was beautiful to behold. God bless you all and may the Holy Spirit lead these two women to the true Gospel of Jesus Christ! Praise His name!
They already have it. The so called pastor is pushing a pagan doctrine. Research the origins of the trinity and you will see it is as pagan as christmas.
LOL.. Like they need to be lead!
Amen
The holy spirit belongs to Jesus' own God. The spirit *of* Jehovah had to settle upon Jesus.
Isaiah 61:1 " The spirit of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah is upon me,
Because Jehovah anointed me to declare good news to the meek."
The spirit is not a seperate person.....the Jews never taught that..the Jewish/ Christian.
..the apostle Paul taught me that there is one God, and names the actual person, who consitutes the wholeone namely the Father alone=God. Which person did Paul teach was God at 1 Corinthians 8: 6? The Holy Spirit, the Son, or the Father?
" To us there is One God, the Father...." Paul's words.
In contrast to this man tickling your ears.
Psalm 83: 18 also states that Jehovah alone ( singular ) is the Most High over all the earth.
The divine name is minted on ancient coins.
Father glorify YOUR name...Jesus words. ( John 12 : 28 )
Jehovah will glorify it again.!
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You are just another puppet of the demons...
You are using 1 Cor. 8:6 to disprove the deity of CHRIST, but you are ignoring the end of this verse "and one LORD Jesus Christ..."
Deuteronomy 4 and 6 and many other chapters are clear GOD is ONE LORD and there is NO other Savior.
Great job, brother! It help us to learn more from the Bible !
God bless you for this great job.
Really! You appear to be easily duped
I was not blessed with the ability to memorize verses or bring up truths from the bible. This is a wonderful video showing the love of Pastor Jeff.
What do you mean you were not blessed to memorize verses or bring up truths from the Bible?
@@annelieseharrison9027 I dont have a good memory
@@johnschaefer1503 nothing's impossible with God! Just keep studying it and keep praying! The Holy Spirit will help you.
@John Schaefer ask the holy spirit to help you, brother! Scripture says he will bring to your memory everything he said. Receive and believe it, and stay in the word!❤
JWs regularly use the Bible. That is why they can recall scriptures quickly.
Study the Bible with them. It will come naturally.
So much information in this video. I especially appreciate the mutual respect between them.
❤ we have to have our heart in the right place for people to hear God’s good news.
I will take my time transcribing this... ❤
I love the guy sitting near them just listening and soaking it in! God bless you Pastor Jeff.
The holy spirit placed him there. He must of needed to hear that conversation at that time 🙏🏼
the only god is jehovah
@@vaxrtz One God three persons.
You contradict the apostle Paul's words with your 3 persons in one God claim. The apostle Paul said: " To us there is one God , the Father...." ( 1 Corinthians 8: 6 )
This one God the Father is Jesus' *only * true God, whom he prayed to and taught that the true worshippers would be worshipping. ( John 17: 3; 4: 22-24.)
As regards, Jesus, the apostle John concludes his chapter in connection to Jesus' identity:
" But these have been written down so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and because of believing, you may have life by means of his name. ( John 20: 31.)
@@celticmarmite6048 Why don't you guys read the *_REST_* of scripture instead of parroting the same scriptures over and over again? Do you think such a superficial and shallow reading of scripture is enough to disprove the trinity - a doctrine that has survived down through the centuries? Let me show you how verses such as 1 Corinthians 8:6 and 1 John 17:3 do not pose any problems for trinitarians.
The problem with how John 17:3 is being used is that it doesn't prove anything at all unless you first load it with a unitarian presupposition. You have to first start off with the assumption that only one *_person_* can be the "only true God". Otherwise the argument fails completely.
From a trinitarian perspective there *_IS_* only one true God. Therefore, Jesus calling the Father the "only true God" no more disqualifies himself as being that same one true God any more than Jesus addressing someone else as "man", means that he himself is not a man.
Jesus saying that the Father is the only true God was not only a truth statement that in no in way contradicts the doctrine of the trinity, it was all Jesus could possibly utter at that time. Jesus could not POSSIBLY tell anyone at that time that he was God incarnate.
For those people who are perishing the gospel is "veiled", which means that Jesus TRUE identity was deliberately hidden until AFTER his resurrection. Why otherwise do you think Jesus repeatedly went out of his way to hide his identity and hinted that something way too controversial for him to say would only be revealed after he returned to the Father? What do you think he was referring to?
Similarly, 1 Corinthians 8:6 does disprove the trinity:
"Yet for us there is but *one God,* the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but *one Lord,* Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live."
I don't know why unitarians even bother refering to this verse, because using the SAME ARGUMENT we would have to conclude that the Father is not "Lord", which we _know_ from verses such as Matthew 11:25 simply isn't true.
Despite this fact Paul says that there is only ONE Lord.
If rather than creating a contradiction in scripture you look at the context of what Paul is saying you will see something completely different than what unitarians want this verse to say. Instead of trying to pit the Father against the Son the preceding verse shows us that Paul is actually pitting the "ONE God and ONE Lord" against "MANY gods and MANY lords":
"For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”) (1 Corinthians 8:5)
This passage has to do with idols, not with with whether or not Jesus is God, and the fact that he places Jesus with the Father rather than among the "so-called gods" proves that Jesus is NOT "a god" as the Watchtower would have us believe.
Furthermore, the word Lord, when applied to Jesus, actually _MEANS_ God! Paul consistently used "God" and "Lord" because calling both of them "God" would be confusing and lead to polytheism which is a false teaching.
If you don't think Lord means God then why do you think there are multiple verses in the NT concering Jesus where "kyrios" cross-references to YHWH in the OT?
This is one example:
"a voice of one calling in the wilderness,
*‘Prepare the way for the Lord,*
make straight paths for him.’" (Matthew 3:3)
Compare it to Isaiah 40:3 and see who it refers to.
Here is another:
“Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” (Romans 10:13)
See Joel 2:32.
We also have entire passages in Hebrews 1 that in the OT refer to YHWH being applied to Jesus, where the author claims explicitly that they were written "about the Son".
This is because Jesus IS the YHWH of the old testament! If you want more evidence of this fact then ask me and I will show you something that stands in TOTAL contradiction of the Watchtowers "Big God/little god" theory.
Thank you brother for sharing The Truth, The Life and The Love
this was awesome!
Amen my brother, God bless you.continue to do God's work,Jesus is coming soon
Thank you Brother Jeff for your insight and humility in sharing the true Christ. Lord please rescue these woman. Sole Deo Gloria!
I wish the title wasn’t so click baity but I’m guilty for clicking. This conversation was excellent! So respectful and loving, what a picture of love. Well done Jeff!
All praises to the one and only TRUE GOD, Jehovah and His son, Jesus!
Jesus is Jehovah, the second person of the triune God (Mar 1:2-3, Rom 10:13, Phi 2:10-11, 2Thes 1:9, 1Pe 2:3, 3:14-15, etc).
@@BasicBiblicalTruthJesus is the servant of Jehovah. (Acts 3:13) Who is the God of Jesus when we leave God’s Name in Micah 5:4??
Nicky, the guy who thinks that two opposing things can be true at the same time.
Nicky, why don't you just cite the LSB, ASV, LSV, or one of the many other Bibles that contain the divine name in the OT ... which also don't unjustly insert it into the NT?!
I'm glad you acknowledge that Jesus is the Messiah, foretold in the OT. If only you would accept the rest of the Biblical claims about Jesus.
The God of Jesus is YHWH/Yahweh/Jehovah.
It's amazing how you keep bringing this up when I confess it whole heartedly. Obviously it's because you ignore why I accept it: The second person of the triune God became human, and thus, assumed a new relationship with the Father, that of a servant (Phil 2).
Christian theology is coherent, JW theology is not.
In JW theology Jesus is Michael the archangel. But have JWs ever thought about what the GB alleges in this claim? Consider how ridiculous their claim is:
1. Jehovah created Michael the archangel, a demigod who creates everything on behalf of Jehovah (contrary to Isa 44:24 & 45:12).
2. Michael ceases to exist.
3. Jehovah creates the human Jesus (who has no correspondence with Michael. There was no incarnation of Michael, rather, at some point Micahael ceased to exist and Jesus was created. So why Michael had to be annihilated I do not know. This belief also contradicts the Gospels account that Jesus “came down from heaven”).
4. Jesus lives, dies, and ceases to exist.
5. Jesus 2.0 is created (which JWs call resurrection, but is not the same as the Jewish/Christian concept of resurrection).
6. Jesus 2.0 (another human Jesus) hangs out with the disciples for 40 days and then … what? JWs are really sure.
7. Jesus 2.0 ceases to exist somehow and Jesus 3.0 (a spirit creature) begins, who is also called Michael (even though the Bible never makes that connection, and actually shows Michael and Jesus are separate entities; cf. Jude).
This is just one more teaching of JWs that they accept without any semblance of critical thinking.
@@BasicBiblicalTruth I asked you if Revelation 19:1-6 is part of the NT. How many times in your favorite Bible translations does it use God’s abbreviated name in that passage?
No “the second person of the trinity” is nowhere found in the Bible. Jesus the Christ the Son of the Most high, the Son of the living God does appear in the Bible. And since Jesus is not the Son of himself he is the Son of the Father. (Matthew 16:16; Luke 1:32: 2 John 3) Jehovah is the name of the God and Father of Jesus. Jesus is not the Father. Thus not Jehovah.
Saying he is still a human or man in heaven is just ludicrous. The Bible doesn’t teach that.
Micah 5:4 brings out the Messiah’s God who he worships is Jehovah. You can’t be the God you worship no matter where you are or how you try to slice it.
@@BasicBiblicalTruth You are trying to deflect on whether or not Jesus is the Angel of the LORD many think is Michael. Many trinitarians believe this as well. True or not? From your own camp. Look it up. But as I told you my faith does not hinge on that at all. What we do know is Jesus is NOT Jehovah.
See Psalm 110:1. Who commands Jesus to sit at his right hand again?? Quote it from any Bible translation. I’m ready.
Jeff has taught me well throughout my youth 👍🏽
Igreja secundária de Jesus Cristo.
Man, I missed these street dialogue videos - these are my favourite. God bless you, Jeff, and the work you do. Looking forward to more!
Thank you Jeff, i just met a lovely JW and this conversation equipped me to have a meaningful and powerful conversation with them 🙏
I love this.❤i was raised methodist..then at 9 mom went j.w.i really appreciate the info and how you delivered it.thats class
Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9
This is the kind of content that hooked me on Apologia years ago
God bless you Pastor Jeff, thanks for posting these videos. I learn from the examples and the scriptures you quote. Keep up the great work, and may the Lord bless everything you put your hand too.
What may I ask did one learn?
Very well done. Good job on knowing the Good Book and trusting in the Holy Spirit to guide you. And with good respect for them. I will share with others. Thank you brother.
I pray to God for this opportunity to meet, talk and share the Truth of God here in Boise, Idaho. 🙏🏻✝️🙏🏻✝️🙏🏻✝️🙏🏻✝️
What a lovely demonstration of a caring Christian. I learn so much everytime I listen to you!!!
Pastor Durbin, your zeal and courge to spread the gospel are always an inspiration. I pray that one day I'll be able to be as fearless.
God Bless you and all you endeavor to pursue.
When Peter asked Jesus: He asked when he will show them the Father, Jesus answered and said have I not been with you for long that you do not know me?
simply amazing explanation ♥
I am teaching an apologetics class tomorrow on the JW's. The approach and discussion were spot on. I love your heart for the lost and confused. Thank you so much!
Deuteronomy 4:35 Jehovah is the true God
Exodus 3:15 Jehovah is God’s name, forever
Colossians 1:15 Jesus is the firstborn of all creation.
Proto is literally first, as in prototype. Tokos is the root word for “to give birth to” or to bring forth. It literally means that Jesus is the first one being created.
The trinity didn’t come about till the 4th century.
Monogenes is from the root word mono, meaning one or only, that is the part that means one of a kind. Genes is the root word meaning to father or to beget. So monogenes does mean only-begotten, or, the only one created by God.
Jesus himself said on multiple occasions that the Father is greater, that he didn’t do his own will, but the will of the one who sent him.
1 Corinthians 11:3 the head of Christ is God.
Hebrews 9:24 After his resurrection, Jesus entered heaven to appear before God on our behalf.
Acts 7:55-56 Stephen see’s Jesus in heaven, at God’s right hand. Not as God, but next to God.
Revelation 3:14 Jesus is the beginning of creation by God.
Ephesians 1:5 talks about the God and Father of Jesus. He has a God, so he cannot be God.
1 Timothy 2:5 there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Jesus. He is the mediator between us and God, so this shows him to be a separate being from God, therefore, not God.
John 20:17 Jesus himself says he has a God.
John 4:23 tells us true worshippers worship the Father. Only Jehovah should be worshipped.
John 1:34 Jesus is the son of God.
There is not a single scripture in the Bible that says the Holy Spirit is God.
There’s not a single scripture in the Bible that says Jesus is “the only true God.”
There are hundreds of scriptures in the Bible that say Jehovah is the only true God.
The trinity is a false doctrine.
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
@@Mr.DC3.1914 the linchpin is Revelations 3:14 - created. No other Scripture is direct as Apostle John’s revelation about eschatology. You can argue night and day like the Bereans (Acts 17:11). However, the Trinitarians will either accept κτίσεως - creation (pronounced ktiseōs) - or they will engage and debate. When you do engage in their debate explain Matthew 19:4 and Mark 10:6 where Jesus refers to our Father as the Creator. Thereby, you can reintroduce how Jesus is the beginning of creation as depicted in Revelations.
In the beginning was the word and the word was God. Jesus is the word.
@@dogelife7901 of course Jesus was the Word and WAS was used which is PAST tense
Made my night to see more from Apologia!
I really don't understand how any could hear this man and still have disbelief. Incredibly wise man and devout follower of Christ and His word
I listen to Jesus, as an ex trinitarian. Jesus said that the true worshippers would be worshipping the Father, to the Samaritan woman. As a trinitarian, I was brought up to worship and serve Jesus.
The apostle Paul taught me :" There is one God the Father. " In contrast to this man tickling your ears..teaching that 3 persons are one God, Paul taught,,.only the Father and no other fractions cinstitute the wholeone namely, God,
Praise be, the God and Father of our lord, Jesus Christ. ( 2 Corinthians 1: 3. )
You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews.23 Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him.+ 24 God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.” ( John 4: 22-24 )
Only one being , constitutes * the One * true* God. Jesus' own God and Father, whom he taught us to worship. ( John 17: 3 )
As regards the Son, the apostle John concluded his chapter 20 with verse 31:" But these have been written down so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and because of believing, you may have life by means of his name."
@@celticmarmite6048 The problem with how John 17:3 is being used is that it doesn't prove anything at all unless you first load it with a unitarian presupposition. You have to first start off with the assumption that only one *_person_* can be the "only true God". Otherwise the argument fails completely.
From a trinitarian perspective there *_IS_* only one true God. Therefore, Jesus calling the Father the "only true God" no more disqualifies himself as being that same one true God any more than Jesus addressing someone else as "man", means that he himself is not a man.
But more importantly, not only was Jesus saying that the Father is the only true God was a truth statement that in no in way contradicts the doctrine of the trinity, it was also _all Jesus could possibly utter at that time._ Jesus could not possibly tell anyone at that time that he was God incarnate.
We need to take into consideration the fact that the gospel is "veiled". Jesus TRUE identity was deliberately withheld until AFTER his resurrection. Why otherwise do you think Jesus repeatedly went out of his way to hide his identity and hinted that something way too controversial for him to say would only be revealed _after_ he returned to the Father? What do you think he was referring to?
It's amazing watching you, pastor. I gave up talking to them after so many times trying. The Holy Spirit always speaks and directs the conversations reminding us the verses and helping us to love them, but they are so brain washed by the organization and very hard to agree with the truth! Their training is well directed to the key verses we present.
The last time I invested time with them it took me 2 days to bring the Greek translation and show carefully some of the verses. They laughed at me and totally ignored the scriptures. One of them saw me at the supermarket after, called me by my name, and strongly imposed her point in a rude way. I was shocked. They do not have the same behavior the Mormons have.
One thing I've noticed, and happened during the first day, was that the "senior" removed a young member as soon as I started to bring the scriptures, and called another "senior" to talk to me. The new member left the site once for all.That is part of their training. It's so sad.
You have a call for that ministry!!! Praying for you! God bless!
Thank You pastor Jeff. I learn so much here especially talking with my unbeliever friends. Glory to God!
Wonderful how Jeff listens as well as speaks. The art of true street evangelism we could all profit by! Bless you Jeff
Great convo!
He certainly got his point across and was polite.
Lord, please awaken the hearts of these precious women….. They don’t know how desperately wicked they are, and how much they really need your grace and truth….. Lord Jesus, help. Grant them the true gospel. Amen.
@@mancunianmartin558 Both!
@@gordianknot9595 no one is good, no not one
@@gordianknot9595”All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” Romans 3:23 and “There is no one righteous, not even one.” Romans 3:10 and “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately, wicked: who can know it?” Jeremiah 17:9….. If you don’t agree with those passages, then my friend, you have an issue with the Bible, and that is VERY dangerous grounds…
@@gordianknot9595 "why is the Bible trustworthy?"
God's word is supernaturally prophetic (Romans 1:26-31/2 Timothy 4:3/Matthew 24:6/1 Corinthians 1:18 fulfilled in reality today), historically verified (archaeologically & anthropologically by Christians & non-Christians w/enemy/early/multiple attestation, internal consistency, embarrassing reports, etc.) & transcendentally/objectively moral (Exodus 20/Matthew 22:37-40) along with the most consistent/cohesive explanation for objective reality regarding all it's facets (origin, meaning, morality, destiny, logic, order, reason, sense, beauty, etc.)
"And how do you know?"
The Bible is the objective foundation for truth as explained above, how do you know your worldview is objectively true? What is your objective foundation for truth?
May the infallible God bless you with faith in Him, not fallible man (Ephesians 2:8 & Merriam-Webster, "belief , trust in & loyalty to God”)!
@@Chong760 Thank you for the scripture!
God Bless you Jeff, I was a JW too for long time but now I belive in Jesus only him❤
Sound phony. Sorry!
Can I ask how one became a JW in the first place?
Filled a form, gave a bribe or donation. or self appointed oneself?
Here are Jesus' words to help.
(Matthew 20:28) Just as the Son of man came, NOT TO BE MINISTERED TO, but to minister and to give his life as a ransom in exchange for many.”
Did Jesus even want any glory for himself?. Let alone worship.
@Tonga Khan not to by sorry, my English is not so good, i try to write good but you see how it is😆
My all family was JW and so I, I was 35 years in this Organisation, for 3 years I left JW because so many bad things happen in this Organisation, they are good people but they bible is wrong, I'm sorry dear friend for my English I hope you understand my what I try to write, God bless you❤️
@@tongakhan230 haha
@@Punio916 :It seems that one WASN'T actually a JW. Just accompanied the family to meetings reluctantly.
So how would one know what is believed by JWs?
IF JWs are NOT Jesus' TRUE DISCIPLES, who is?
@Tonga Khan hey, the JW not belive that Jesus is God! But in the bible is many verses that Jesus are God, the JW Bible are very different, they not belive that Jesus died on the cross, they only belive in Government Body, who hide pedophilia and other bad things, they strategy ist a false love, they manipulate people, I know what I saying I'll be there for very very long time, it's very sad because they are good people but unfortunately very manipulated by government Body and they learn methods.
Romans 15;20
It has always been my ambition to preach the gospel where Christ was not known, so that I would not be building on someone else’s foundation
Very helpful! testing the waters this weekend by witnessing to the JW down the road with the notes I made from this video.
Love it!
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law." Good job brother!
Thank you for this. There have been JW around the corner from my office for the past few months and I could not figure out how to approach them. This encourages me to do so. What a pleasant conversation. To Christ be the glory.
How may I ask is one going to approach JWs? With what?
JWs are being pulled out by God from all religions. They know what the religions they left teach.
They have taken this command seriusly.
(Revelation 18:4) And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.
Hello sister how are you and how’s the family?
As a now committed Christian who left the Jehovah’s Witnesses because I discovered Jesus was the Way, the Truth and the Life. I had a huge family who always prayed I would find our Lord, Jesus. So your conclusion was right on. I’m so proud of you and your wife for partaking of the bread and wine, knowing you are going to heaven. It will make many in attendance think. But mostly, your sincerity regarding all these lost souls who like the Apostle Paul said in 2 Timothy 3:5 that evil people put on the "window dressing" of faith in God, but reject the actual power of the Holy Spirit ! Your sadness and pain realizing that no one in the room had a hope of going to heaven, and that we all need to pray for them. Thank you for being such a good example of what we need to do for these people and all involved in cults claiming to be Christian!
You said "who left the Jehovah’s Witnesses because I discovered Jesus was the Way, the Truth and the Life."
So, why would you leave JW because of that? That is what JW believe.
You said "Your sadness and pain realizing that no one in the room had a hope of going to heaven, "
What is the purpose of people going to heaven?
I love the guy sitting there listening. I like to simplify the trinity by saying: To the Father, through the Son, in the Spirit. It is our pathway to God. ❤
Jeff’s skills with the Bible is the reason for my passion in apologetics and now polemics. I love how he knows Gods Word and how to share with gentleness and respect. God bless his ministry. And pray for those JWs.
Randomly stumbled across this video as I’m sitting in a hotel room in Salt Lake City on vacation. I was born and raised a Jehovah’s Witness in Chicago . I ran into JWs in downtown during my stay here . My mind is blown at how timely me stumbling across this video is .
Praise God!! I pray you know God loves you and wants to adopt you into his family. Just repent, accept Jesus is Lord, raised from the Dead, and died on the cross.❤❤❤
Daniel, this was no coincidence. If you have not yet, turn to Jesus. He is calling you.
Please see my two posts to Pastor Jeff Durbin, above!
Things he does not inform his readers about!
Danielavila
Just the demons at work! Jesus said that Satan is the god of this world and the Power of the air! The great deceiver……watch out! Be care of what you listen to! You were on your way to everlasting life in the Kingdom, that Our King, Jesus will rule over from the heavens over the earth. Read Daniel 2:44! Don’t be deceived by these unrighteous ones!
Blessings Pastor
Praise God
This was amazing, Thankyou so much. Annette. The Isle of skye. Scotland.
No Annette, thank you for your isle of sky and it's wonderful gift to the world, Talisker.
The world is in your debt.
Sir I think you met the best witnesses ever. Loved how they were so free to air their views. Most of them don’t . I love their energy, it’s a proof they both seek Truth.
Except that convenient "shift change" lol. And the prodding from one of the women to attend one of their services to "change your perspective". And the "we agree to disagree". They seemed pretty hardened in their views.
@@natalyd9674 The Trinity believer was no less hardened in his views.
@@jimross1765 Exactly. Because the truth cannot be compromised. He had scripture to back him up. They had tradition and a book written by a man who claimed to be a prophet and nothing he said came true. Don't let tradition get in the way of salvation.
@@natalyd9674 On the contrary it is christians who have a traditional belief in the Trinity passed down to them by catholic dogma and adopted by its many offshoots of christian belief. JW reject this tradition as I do and I also have scriptures to back this deception of 3 gods in one. It is one of many pointless and fruitless discussions. It was Roman doctrine that started a belief in a Trinity and became widely accepted. Any who questioned it were put to death by burning at the stake alive. Both John Calvin and John Know did just that. Consider this if you believe that Jesus is God? John says: “No man has seen God at any time.” (John 1:18). But men have seen Jesus. Therefore, the expression “God” refers exclusively to God the Father. Jesus never refers to himself as God; he reserves that terminology solely for the Father. When someone called him “Good Teacher,” Jesus replied: “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.” (Matthew 19: 17).
I will declare your name to my brothers.” (Psalm 22: 22). Jesus is: “the firstborn among many brothers.” (Romans 8:29). Believers are the brothers of Jesus. But we are not the brothers of God. God is our Father. The Holy Spirit is neither our brother or our Father. The Holy Spirit is the word of the Father that dwelt in the flesh body of Jesus. John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Jesus is the second created Adam who never sinned and obeyed his Father. He is the first born son of a new creation into the Kingdom of God.
@@natalyd9674 Keep in mind he was the one that approached them with an agenda and was prepared. They had no idea this was coming.
I love that last commendation from the white hair lady..."you truly know your Bible"🙌
It’s a practiced phrase they use to keep ppl from getting angry 😂
No it's not, it showing that it's nice that they love the bible where as many say they know the bible but it's just empty words
THANK YOU
Praying for them
Jeff I just wanna say that I am grateful for the work u are doing out there ! You are a great representative of Christian’s with the way you conduct yourself ! You know the Bible inside and out and you also come across very respectful ! Thank you for all the work you do
Jeff did not HEAR Paul when he read from Colossians Paul shared a COMMON FAITH with Titus which Jude says that we MUST EARNESTLY contend for the faith delivered ONCE to the saints. Paul's faith is still preserved in 1Cor 8 v 4 to 6 in the Authorised King James Bible a word by word translation from the original scriptures. We are in the Father by Jesus Christ our Lord from heaven now made a life-giving spirit. One spirit even as you are called in one hope of your calling. In 2 Cor Paul was concerned about a different Jesus and spirit Read our extensive comment. Much ❤ Paul and Lynda
What about John 1:18?
THANK YOU!
These videos along with all the other content you post are so helpful and refreshing to watch. There are ALWAYS JW's on my campus and it is really awesome to more videos that pertain to how other christians go about conversing with them as I am not great at evangelism/apologetics yet. Jeff, and all the others throughout your many videos evangelizing/apoliguzing, thank you so much.
I wish I could come out west and evangelize to mormons and others full time, but college, an army contract, and an army given herniated disk at 20 yrs old limit that abililty. Regardless, God is Good!
Deuteronomy 4:35 Jehovah is the true God
Exodus 3:15 Jehovah is God’s name, forever
Colossians 1:15 Jesus is the firstborn of all creation.
Proto is literally first, as in prototype. Tokos is the root word for “to give birth to” or to bring forth. It literally means that Jesus is the first one being created.
The trinity didn’t come about till the 4th century.
Monogenes is from the root word mono, meaning one or only, that is the part that means one of a kind. Genes is the root word meaning to father or to beget. So monogenes does mean only-begotten, or, the only one created by God.
Jesus himself said on multiple occasions that the Father is greater, that he didn’t do his own will, but the will of the one who sent him.
1 Corinthians 11:3 the head of Christ is God.
Hebrews 9:24 After his resurrection, Jesus entered heaven to appear before God on our behalf.
Acts 7:55-56 Stephen see’s Jesus in heaven, at God’s right hand. Not as God, but next to God.
Revelation 3:14 Jesus is the beginning of creation by God.
Ephesians 1:5 talks about the God and Father of Jesus. He has a God, so he cannot be God.
1 Timothy 2:5 there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Jesus. He is the mediator between us and God, so this shows him to be a separate being from God, therefore, not God.
John 20:17 Jesus himself says he has a God.
John 4:23 tells us true worshippers worship the Father. Only Jehovah should be worshipped.
John 1:34 Jesus is the son of God.
There is not a single scripture in the Bible that says the Holy Spirit is God.
There’s not a single scripture in the Bible that says Jesus is “the only true God.”
There are hundreds of scriptures in the Bible that say Jehovah is the only true God.
The trinity is a false doctrine.
Sorry to read about your herniated disc.
Start with Jesus' words: " The hour is coming and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the *Father* with spirit and truth for indeed the * Father* is looking for such like ones to worship him. " John 4: 23
The fact you need a hidden camera says it all. They wouldnt speak on camera in case they said the wrong thing and the elders would find out
Great ministry sir win them to JESUS CHRIST OUR ONLY ONE LORD AND TURE SAVOUIR!!!
It's awesome that they listened for that long! It seems unusual nowadays for JW's to have discussions. I was born into and raised as a JW, but several years ago I came to Jesus.
And with God's grace, I was able to also wake up my dad. Sadly, most of my family is still in. My dad passed away a few years ago (I still can't help but cry and miss him every day), but he loved God so much and was so much happier in freedom in Christ.
God Bless you for trying to reach them. JW's are very difficult, but it's not hopeless.
Jeff Durbin is truly a man of God. He is very respectable and loving person as a witness of his saving relationship with Christ thru faith and by His grace alone.
Yes! I agree with most of the other comments. You sir did a great job. Very respectfully, patient and well spoken. Thank you for the setting a great example. Much appreciated.
I am subscribing just because of the beard. Its priceless. Also....I love that you pull out an actual bible, And they pull out stupid phones. THAT is priceless.
I get your point about the phones, but having the bible in paper or digital form doesn't matter as long as they are both accurate translations. I prefer to use an actual book rather than a phone, myself
How appropriate, the song playing in the background. Love come down. Our savior who's love came down, suffered so that we could be saved. HaleluYah ❤
He did this with so much love in his heart. God bless you!
after that - he went to the local watering hole and told the barkeep - I need Johnnie straight up - keep em coming
That ain't love. It's ego.
Jeff sadly could not HEAR Paul in Colossians where he lays a right foundation. Jeff parrots and so do the women but are not of the truth of 1Cor 8 v 4 to 6 the COMMON faith Paul shared with Titus and which Jude says was delivered ONCE to the saints. Read our comment to avoid the spirit of ERROR - 1John 4v 6= ❤ Paul and Lynda
What a wonderful man
Awesome job brother! All glory to Our Lord Jesus!