Absolutely one of the best explanation and break down if the issues ive seen, without all the bagging on the motor and VM. Another channel said Italians aren't known for diesels! There is so much bad information out there. VM has been around for 65 years! They invented the rail for diesels, their engines are in vehicles all over the world in multiple manufacturers. 2.8 Duramax, yeah thats a VM motor. Toyota Hillux and LR also VM motors. And this motor was originally concieved and devleoped with GM when they owned a portion of this company. Is this a bad motor? Maybe, but there have been had Power Strokes as well and other manufactures have had fails as well. Obviously this is old and we now know they gave up, but Im ever so curios what is the actual rate of failure of all the issues and recallls? Mine has c hugged along for 7 years and 100K. But im a stickler for oil changes too.
Very interesting and makes perfect sense. I have a 2015 Ecodiesel. All my diesels before I have on occasion warmed them up, and then on the highway, floored it to clean out the soot. I did that to mine at 60,000 miles and the engine died. Thank God it was still in warranty.
Thank you for all the Knowledge you share. I wish I had someone like you on my Team. Love the Ambition, Detail, and Motivation in everything you touch. Look forward to watching you grow. Keep up the Good work . God Bless
Very informative information thank you. My father currently has a 2015 ecodiesel with 68,000 miles and actually reprogrammed back the original ECU software a couple years ago to improve the fuel economy.. Truck is only used on long road trips and occasional towing for a small trailer. I probably should mention this to him. Truck has been maintained and babied but the warranty I believe will run out soon.
I have over 151K on my 2015 JGC, and do all my own wrenching and maintenance... well out of warranty and VERY disappointed how Chrysler dealt with this engine. Basically we will have a fancy boat anchor one day soon.
Great Explanation of a ECODIESEL Engine issue. I have a 2016 RAM 1500 with this engine. At 66,337 miles, the engine failed on me last week (June 13, 2022). No prior signs of trouble. Now, I have no ETA for a new engine and I am out of a truck in the mean time. Let me know if your company has a fix for this problem yet. (Please) I am a DIY guy but my truck is 5 hrs away from my home shop, it's at a Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, RAM dealership awaiting a new engine. I was driving from LA to SLC on I-15 when it froze up. It was completely seized. Now I am in a pickle. No engines available. No Warranty from FCA..... Ouch. Anyone else have this issue? I use my truck with an occasional tow (Small trailers (Snow mobiles, Jet Skis) but mainly my daily driver. Let's just say I am a meticulous owner and I do my own oil/maintenance work when ever possible. Also, I had pretty fresh oil change, less than 1,500 miles on the engine oil. I used the recommended 5-40w Full Synthetic, Low Ash European Diesel Shell Rotella T-6 Oil. One dealership I talked to tried to blame it on my abilities to change oil. I also own a Porsche 911 (you know how wound up we are) and I am a perfectionist in the care for my vehicles. Not a chance in hell I put the wrong oil in it. So thanks for this video showing the cause of lower engine failure. Let me know if you have any advice for me. Thanks Shane
I have a 2017 Larrami 4 X 4 and it’s not a working truck. Had the EGR recall done to it, and use Rotella T6 every 6k miles. Should this type of use reduce the chances of the infamous catastrophic damage that the engines are “known for”? I hope so, really like the truck, thanks.
Do you have any upgraded crankshafts yet,I’m buying an ecodiesel that has oil pouring out the rear of engine for a very cheap price and was looking for if possible a very nice and solid rebuild that will handle proper high boost and lugging mpg and compound turbo setup possibly,otherwise may retrofit a 4bt for reliability and mpg
My wife's 2015 ecodiesel just started having issues. A miss and clatter that seems on driver side. Took to one dealer and their fix was just to swing another motor for 15k. They also said had to pull the bed (yes the bed , asked twice) to change motor. I don't think need motor. It stuttered a couple times a red light but cleared up for few weeks. Then stuttered wile at idel after pulling out of garage, she forgot something so ran for few min.and after studdering had a clatter seemingly on driver side. Clatter changes volume, like oil Cushing here and there. Good oil pressure and no codes but CEL is on and won't accelerate when in gear ( had to put into low lock to get on trailer) any advice. Seems like repairable to me.
Good video. I have a 2016 1500 with the ecodiesel. Gone through 2 engines. Been trying to research if the engine can be rebuilt. Not excited about giving the dealer some 15k for a new one that isn't available. Thanks man
Hello Great Information in the Video. I’m going to be 100% honest, I’m a woodworker and know zero about Diesel engines. I got a 2015 eco diesel 7 weeks ago absolute pristine condition used with 100,000 km to use as my company Truck. It’s been taken to the shop for engine work 3 times in this timeframe. Towed in first for new gaskets on the egr hose. Second time the no2 censor needed replacement And Final I’m about to go pick it up tomorrow morning for the third time it’s in now for a new crank shaft position censor tone ring. It’s been a bad experience to say the least I’ve been trying to learn as much as I can about the engine (in the very little spare time I have)to see what I can do to avoid anymore and I keep coming across more scary story’s all over the place. My real question.... should a guy like me keep a vehicle like this or should I be looking to get out of it. Do you think with all the things replaced at this point and me following your advise in the video it can still be a reliable vehicle for me? All I’ve been thinking about for a week is this is probably not a great truck to be running my business in but also still absolutely love the truck when it has been running. I bought it with a mindset that a Diesel engine will get more miles than the gas one that was sitting right beside it same year same colour LOL The dealership I purchased from has been amazing they paid every single bill so far and hooked me up with a loaner truck so that is the only plus side is all those new parts and labour were paid.
OK, Guys, I'm the original owner of a 2015 RAM EcoDiesel with over 150,000 (yes, 150k) consisting of about 75% HIGHWAY miles--- THAT SAID: ZERO engine issues, repairs, or anything engine related (not including exhaust/ DPF issues); And am (literally) about to change the ORIGINAL serpentine belt (YES, I KNOW ...DUMB & RISKY not to have changed it yet!) BTW, I got 135k miles out of the original FRONT brake pads; REAR pads STILL original, over 150k miles, AND got 90k miles out of the original factory Goodyear SRA 265/70 r17 tires. MODS? YES: DEF SYSTEM glitched from about 12,000 miles, DEF consumption CEASED and I LEFT IT UNREPAIRED until 112k miles, at which point it did its VERY FIRST DPF ReGen, then a day or 2 later, it ReGenned again, but not completely before I HAD TO go home and sleep due to exhaustion after a 16-hr day. NEXT A.M., the truck DE-RATED and went into LIMP MODE, at which point I had DEF/DPF delete done, with VERY moderate ECM tune plus 30% turbo engine braking programmed into it. MILEAGE STILL as good as from Day One, capable of 30+ MPG highway if I do my part. RECAP--- Lucky So Far? --- no disastrous engine problems like so many others, but I have historically kind of "babied" the engine (and truck in general), as in: routine easy acceleration AND generally (but not always) allowing engine to do more than 1/2 of slowing me down. With so many guys having severe engine problems, am I just lucky? I rarely tow, but have pulled a 12-ft V-nose cargo trailer from Indiana to Dallas and back (20-22 MPG), and towed cars on a trailer a few times, but that's it for towing. Mostly daily driver duties, otherwise. Your thoughts?
Hi there, can you explain why in Australia we are recommended a different oil to use in the ecodiesel to what’s recommended in US. I don’t know what to use.
OK, Guys, I'm the original owner of a 2015 RAM EcoDiesel with over 150,000 (yes, 150k) consisting of about 75% HIGHWAY miles--- THAT SAID: ZERO engine issues, repairs, or anything engine related (not including exhaust/ DPF issues); And am (literally) about to change the ORIGINAL serpentine belt (YES, I KNOW ...DUMB & RISKY not to have changed it yet!) BTW, I got 135k miles out of the original FRONT brake pads; REAR pads STILL original, over 150k miles, AND got 90k miles out of the original factory Goodyear SRA 265/70 r17 tires. MODS? YES: DEF SYSTEM glitched from about 12,000 miles, DEF consumption CEASED and I LEFT IT UNREPAIRED until 112k miles, at which point it did its VERY FIRST DPF ReGen, then a day or 2 later, it ReGenned again, but not completely before I HAD TO go home and sleep due to exhaustion after a 16-hr day. NEXT A.M., the truck DE-RATED and went into LIMP MODE, at which point I had DEF/DPF delete done, with VERY moderate ECM tune plus 30% turbo engine braking programmed into it. MILEAGE STILL as good as from Day One, capable of 30+ MPG highway if I do my part. RECAP--- Lucky So Far? --- no disastrous engine problems like so many others, but I have historically kind of "babied" the engine (and truck in general), as in: routine easy acceleration AND generally (but not always) allowing engine to do more than 1/2 of slowing me down. With so many guys having severe engine problems, am I just lucky? I rarely tow, but have pulled a 12-ft V-nose cargo trailer from Indiana to Dallas and back (20-22 MPG), and towed cars on a trailer a few times, but that's it for towing. Mostly daily driver duties, otherwise. Your thoughts?
@@recklessmotorsportsusa3443 THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO. I'm looking at buying a 2016 Ram Big Horn eco with crank failure/engine locked. I don't know how bad the damage is haven't even seen the truck. I fix and flip cars. What are the odds the block is salvagable? And what crank do you suggest?
Same 2015 here. Engine blew at 60,000 miles when I was blowing it out. Thank God for the warranty. I will never floor it again and when I sell it, the new potential buyer will not floor it. I drive it like you do. Got 83000 miles on the brakes and just wanted them done. I towed 6500lb big sailboat 900 miles and got 19 mpg, watching the oil temp and letting off the accelerator til it gets back down. Thinking about getting a new one so this does not blow up on me out of warranty.
Bought my 2016 eco 2 years ago w/ 50k miles on it. Just turned 95k miles and motor locked up after oil pressure drop at idle. Bought extended warranty when i got it, Was just told it would be 3 months before its fixed, Guess I will be walking to work? Waiting on call back from Fiat, maybe they can help with a rental or something.
They have never actually proven this to be the exact culprit of these engines, it may help though. Chrysler has taken steps to prevent the lugging as they have determined that to be the cause of breaking cranks in half, well besides the week material of the crank itself lol
I suspect the effects of the harmonic vibrations on the main bearing will generate excessive heat and cook the oil in the bearing oil supply outlet. Vibrations would cause the main journals to move back and forth along the crankshaft not up and down. Would having the cradle redesigned to compensate for the back and forth with reinforced crank thrust washer?
@@zonta71 unfortunately the cradle is actually an amazing design, people could argue the mains need to be physically larger but that's not the case. The real fix at the end of the day is a crank that won't flex.
I agree with you I just had a guys ecodieasl I service and after a oil change it started leaking from the rear main seal leak and it was park the next day on the side of the street and I go pull the oil filter and my surprise there was lots of metal flakes after two days but also the the truck had 306000 miles so most likely crankshaft or main journals on intake or exhaust side
Our 2015 eco diesel had catastrophic failure at 39,000 and required a new engine when still under warranty. Now at 100,000 we have experienced what feels like hesitation or slipping of gears. Dealer can’t find cause or engine alerts. Any advise?
I have a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee eco diesel with 55k miles and it just failed. I am just beyond the warranty on the vehicle. Can you offer any advise as to what to do? I plan on calling Chrysler cust care as I am the original owner and hope they will offer some love to replace the engine or fix it. Please help.
@@recklessmotorsportsusa3443 a naturally aspirated 135 hp Cat 3208 has significantly more bearing surface area than this boat anchor, and they were a laughingstock of diesel bottom ends. 😂
These engines have been used for a very long time without issue in other vehicles, the bottom end issue was a combination of a weak crank and lugging. Obviously larger bearing surface would help with the crank, but so would a stronger crank. Which is what they did in 2020.
I'm not sure you can find 3 legit cam sprocket failures since the engines inception. Sean producer of the infamous video later found out that his motor had not failed. They got it fixed for him and he ran it to 190k miles until his next issue. The crank harmonics problem with some load at something like 1,300-1,400 rpms I believe was referenced in some FCA documentation If I remember correctly. Crank harmonics is my though as to the main issue with crank squirm and smushing bearing surfaces until one day it just spins one out enough to fail. A common failure statement is; and I baby this truck. I tow moderate 1/2 ton appropriate weight commercially with this engine. Average travel trailer being like 6k to 6,500 pounds. First engine pushed a head gasket at 371k. Second engine cracked a head at 423k miles. Friend James does the same his has 452k miles and is also now having cooling issues. If no existing issues a tune & new EGR cooler or EGR cooler delete plus proper maintenance with a good duty cycle (long run times) makes for a pretty reliable motor. Same as with the ones across the pond as they say. Main bearing size doesn't seem to be an issue. Just don't idle around work it. For the casual reader this is not in reference to the new ecodiesel but rather the 2014 thru 2019 in the 4th gen body.
Thanks for all the great information. I just found your video after having my 2018 Jeep GC towed into the dealer with 32K miles on it 5/25/21. Dealer says that the initial indication is rod knock and they’d have to tear it down some more to determine if it’s fixable or an engine swap. I’m still waiting on an answer. Just a little history here: the EGR/fire recall was done about 600 miles ago. Of course the driveability changed as well as fuel mileage. Dropped about 3-5 per gallon. I’m hoping that with a new engine, the knocking won’t reoccur. I recorded the rod knock and posted it on my page. If you’d care to give it a listen and an opinion I’d really appreciate it. My dilemma; do I sell it after it’s fixed because of reliability issues or should I have faith that the replacement crate motor has the bugs worked out of it.
Hello, I have a ram 1500 3.0l, engine went bad and the mechanic found pieces of string metal in the oil pan. Do you think is worth repairing that engine or swap for a new one? Thanks
This just happened to me, 2019 Grand Cherokee, oil changes to schedule with correct spec 5-40 oil, not used for towing, Jeep say it’s 2 months out off warranty so no claim and want £26,000 British pounds to fix 😨
@@recklessmotorsportsusa3443 Hi, I was in the Jeep dealer today today to try and get some sense out of them, I parked around the back and a couple of the technicians were having a smoke outside, I got talking to them about my issue and they told ,e that they had two more Grand Cherokees in with the same issue, one was a 2018 with 80,000 miles and Jeep have paid 80% towards the new engine and the other, like mine is being argued about, the other issue is they have quoted 7 months to get parts 🥵
They just got my ass too. 14k for a new engine. I can’t afford that. It’s crazy how many ppl I see in the comments that it’s recently happen to. And I seen it on other vids too. This isn’t right. Dodge has to make this right.
Glad someone's working on this and just working on engine parts period. Ur the man a real pioneer lmao
Absolutely one of the best explanation and break down if the issues ive seen, without all the bagging on the motor and VM. Another channel said Italians aren't known for diesels! There is so much bad information out there. VM has been around for 65 years! They invented the rail for diesels, their engines are in vehicles all over the world in multiple manufacturers. 2.8 Duramax, yeah thats a VM motor. Toyota Hillux and LR also VM motors. And this motor was originally concieved and devleoped with GM when they owned a portion of this company. Is this a bad motor? Maybe, but there have been had Power Strokes as well and other manufactures have had fails as well. Obviously this is old and we now know they gave up, but Im ever so curios what is the actual rate of failure of all the issues and recallls? Mine has c hugged along for 7 years and 100K. But im a stickler for oil changes too.
Very interesting and makes perfect sense. I have a 2015 Ecodiesel. All my diesels before I have on occasion warmed them up, and then on the highway, floored it to clean out the soot. I did that to mine at 60,000 miles and the engine died. Thank God it was still in warranty.
Thank you for all the Knowledge you share. I wish I had someone like you on my Team. Love the Ambition, Detail, and Motivation in everything you touch. Look forward to watching you grow. Keep up the Good work . God Bless
Very informative information thank you. My father currently has a 2015 ecodiesel with 68,000 miles and actually reprogrammed back the original ECU software a couple years ago to improve the fuel economy.. Truck is only used on long road trips and occasional towing for a small trailer. I probably should mention this to him. Truck has been maintained and babied but the warranty I believe will run out soon.
I have over 151K on my 2015 JGC, and do all my own wrenching and maintenance... well out of warranty and VERY disappointed how Chrysler dealt with this engine. Basically we will have a fancy boat anchor one day soon.
Great Explanation of a ECODIESEL Engine issue.
I have a 2016 RAM 1500 with this engine. At 66,337 miles, the engine failed on me last week (June 13, 2022). No prior signs of trouble.
Now, I have no ETA for a new engine and I am out of a truck in the mean time. Let me know if your company has a fix for this problem yet. (Please)
I am a DIY guy but my truck is 5 hrs away from my home shop, it's at a Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, RAM dealership awaiting a new engine. I was driving from LA to SLC on I-15 when it froze up. It was completely seized. Now I am in a pickle. No engines available. No Warranty from FCA..... Ouch.
Anyone else have this issue? I use my truck with an occasional tow (Small trailers (Snow mobiles, Jet Skis) but mainly my daily driver.
Let's just say I am a meticulous owner and I do my own oil/maintenance work when ever possible. Also, I had pretty fresh oil change, less than 1,500 miles on the engine oil. I used the recommended 5-40w Full Synthetic, Low Ash European Diesel Shell Rotella T-6 Oil. One dealership I talked to tried to blame it on my abilities to change oil. I also own a Porsche 911 (you know how wound up we are) and I am a perfectionist in the care for my vehicles. Not a chance in hell I put the wrong oil in it. So thanks for this video showing the cause of lower engine failure.
Let me know if you have any advice for me.
Thanks
Shane
Thank you so much for your knowledge of the real cause! My 2016 ram ecodiesel died at 64000 miles!
Great analysis. My stock JGC 2015 EcoDiesel is going strong at 130K. Change oil every 5000 K’s though.
My 2014 spun a rod at 131000
I have a 2017 Larrami 4 X 4 and it’s not a working truck. Had the EGR recall done to it, and use Rotella T6 every 6k miles. Should this type of use reduce the chances of the infamous catastrophic damage that the engines are “known for”? I hope so, really like the truck, thanks.
I fixed mine I put a 4.7 in it it runs flawless now the diesel is now used in my wife’s kitchen making pasta and cheese
I just found your video, and wondering if running in sports mode would be an improvement?, cheers from OZ
Do you have any upgraded crankshafts yet,I’m buying an ecodiesel that has oil pouring out the rear of engine for a very cheap price and was looking for if possible a very nice and solid rebuild that will handle proper high boost and lugging mpg and compound turbo setup possibly,otherwise may retrofit a 4bt for reliability and mpg
My wife's 2015 ecodiesel just started having issues. A miss and clatter that seems on driver side. Took to one dealer and their fix was just to swing another motor for 15k. They also said had to pull the bed (yes the bed , asked twice) to change motor. I don't think need motor. It stuttered a couple times a red light but cleared up for few weeks. Then stuttered wile at idel after pulling out of garage, she forgot something so ran for few min.and after studdering had a clatter seemingly on driver side. Clatter changes volume, like oil Cushing here and there. Good oil pressure and no codes but CEL is on and won't accelerate when in gear ( had to put into low lock to get on trailer) any advice. Seems like repairable to me.
Good video. I have a 2016 1500 with the ecodiesel. Gone through 2 engines. Been trying to research if the engine can be rebuilt. Not excited about giving the dealer some 15k for a new one that isn't available. Thanks man
Never trust a mechanic to rebuild the engine. Get a rebuilt one from the factory. They know what they are doing.
@DavidMosby clearly they don’t or we wouldn’t be here
So from lugging the motor causing torsional vibration it takes the mains out? I bought a GC EcoDiesel and was wanting to improve it as well. Sub’d.
Yes but not as common on the jeeps
Hello Great Information in the Video. I’m going to be 100% honest, I’m a woodworker and know zero about Diesel engines. I got a 2015 eco diesel 7 weeks ago absolute pristine condition used with 100,000 km to use as my company Truck.
It’s been taken to the shop for engine work 3 times in this timeframe.
Towed in first for new gaskets on the egr hose.
Second time the no2 censor needed replacement
And Final I’m about to go pick it up tomorrow morning for the third time it’s in now for a new crank shaft position censor tone ring.
It’s been a bad experience to say the least I’ve been trying to learn as much as I can about the engine (in the very little spare time I have)to see what I can do to avoid anymore and I keep coming across more scary story’s all over the place.
My real question.... should a guy like me keep a vehicle like this or should I be looking to get out of it. Do you think with all the things replaced at this point and me following your advise in the video it can still be a reliable vehicle for me?
All I’ve been thinking about for a week is this is probably not a great truck to be running my business in but also still absolutely love the truck when it has been running. I bought it with a mindset that a Diesel engine will get more miles than the gas one that was sitting right beside it same year same colour LOL
The dealership I purchased from has been amazing they paid every single bill so far and hooked me up with a loaner truck so that is the only plus side is all those new parts and labour were paid.
I’ll put it this way I’m over 50k miles since October with zero parts failures on my truck. I changed the brakes once and all I did was oil.
OK, Guys, I'm the original owner of a 2015 RAM EcoDiesel with over 150,000 (yes, 150k) consisting of about 75% HIGHWAY miles---
THAT SAID: ZERO engine issues, repairs, or anything engine related (not including exhaust/ DPF issues);
And am (literally) about to change the ORIGINAL serpentine belt (YES, I KNOW ...DUMB & RISKY not to have changed it yet!)
BTW, I got 135k miles out of the original FRONT brake pads; REAR pads STILL original, over 150k miles, AND got 90k miles out of the original factory Goodyear SRA 265/70 r17 tires.
MODS? YES: DEF SYSTEM glitched from about 12,000 miles, DEF consumption CEASED and I LEFT IT UNREPAIRED until 112k miles, at which point it did its VERY FIRST DPF ReGen, then a day or 2 later, it ReGenned again, but not completely before I HAD TO go home and sleep due to exhaustion after a 16-hr day.
NEXT A.M., the truck DE-RATED and went into LIMP MODE, at which point I had DEF/DPF delete done, with VERY moderate ECM tune plus 30% turbo engine braking programmed into it. MILEAGE STILL as good as from Day One, capable of 30+ MPG highway if I do my part.
RECAP--- Lucky So Far? --- no disastrous engine problems like so many others, but I have historically kind of "babied" the engine (and truck in general), as in:
routine easy acceleration AND generally (but not always) allowing engine to do more than 1/2 of slowing me down.
With so many guys having severe engine problems, am I just lucky? I rarely tow, but have pulled a 12-ft V-nose cargo trailer from Indiana to Dallas and back (20-22 MPG), and towed cars on a trailer a few times, but that's it for towing. Mostly daily driver duties, otherwise.
Your thoughts?
Hi, I love my 21 gladiator eco diesel. Do you know if they have updated the crankshaft already? Bring those tunes to the engine as well already 🤘🏻
2020+ they did. Where you located?
@@recklessmotorsportsusa3443 I am located in Odessa Tx 😺
Hi there, can you explain why in Australia we are recommended a different oil to use in the ecodiesel to what’s recommended in US. I don’t know what to use.
What oil are you supposed to use there ?
OK, Guys, I'm the original owner of a 2015 RAM EcoDiesel with over 150,000 (yes, 150k) consisting of about 75% HIGHWAY miles---
THAT SAID: ZERO engine issues, repairs, or anything engine related (not including exhaust/ DPF issues);
And am (literally) about to change the ORIGINAL serpentine belt (YES, I KNOW ...DUMB & RISKY not to have changed it yet!)
BTW, I got 135k miles out of the original FRONT brake pads; REAR pads STILL original, over 150k miles, AND got 90k miles out of the original factory Goodyear SRA 265/70 r17 tires.
MODS? YES: DEF SYSTEM glitched from about 12,000 miles, DEF consumption CEASED and I LEFT IT UNREPAIRED until 112k miles, at which point it did its VERY FIRST DPF ReGen, then a day or 2 later, it ReGenned again, but not completely before I HAD TO go home and sleep due to exhaustion after a 16-hr day.
NEXT A.M., the truck DE-RATED and went into LIMP MODE, at which point I had DEF/DPF delete done, with VERY moderate ECM tune plus 30% turbo engine braking programmed into it. MILEAGE STILL as good as from Day One, capable of 30+ MPG highway if I do my part.
RECAP--- Lucky So Far? --- no disastrous engine problems like so many others, but I have historically kind of "babied" the engine (and truck in general), as in:
routine easy acceleration AND generally (but not always) allowing engine to do more than 1/2 of slowing me down.
With so many guys having severe engine problems, am I just lucky? I rarely tow, but have pulled a 12-ft V-nose cargo trailer from Indiana to Dallas and back (20-22 MPG), and towed cars on a trailer a few times, but that's it for towing. Mostly daily driver duties, otherwise.
Your thoughts?
It’s all about how you drive when you drive
@@recklessmotorsportsusa3443 THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO. I'm looking at buying a 2016 Ram Big Horn eco with crank failure/engine locked. I don't know how bad the damage is haven't even seen the truck. I fix and flip cars. What are the odds the block is salvagable? And what crank do you suggest?
Same 2015 here. Engine blew at 60,000 miles when I was blowing it out. Thank God for the warranty. I will never floor it again and when I sell it, the new potential buyer will not floor it. I drive it like you do. Got 83000 miles on the brakes and just wanted them done. I towed 6500lb big sailboat 900 miles and got 19 mpg, watching the oil temp and letting off the accelerator til it gets back down. Thinking about getting a new one so this does not blow up on me out of warranty.
Bought my 2016 eco 2 years ago w/ 50k miles on it. Just turned 95k miles and motor locked up after oil pressure drop at idle. Bought extended warranty when i got it, Was just told it would be 3 months before its fixed, Guess I will be walking to work? Waiting on call back from Fiat, maybe they can help with a rental or something.
What's the update on this??? Have you installed any of these new cranks???
I have a 14 Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel with engine failure.. do you guys have those improved updated remanufactured engines ready to go?
We didn’t end up going that route yet
I see the issue as excessive soot in the oil plugging oil passages. Main bearings start to starve and the inevitable happens.
They have never actually proven this to be the exact culprit of these engines, it may help though. Chrysler has taken steps to prevent the lugging as they have determined that to be the cause of breaking cranks in half, well besides the week material of the crank itself lol
I suspect the effects of the harmonic vibrations on the main bearing will generate excessive heat and cook the oil in the bearing oil supply outlet. Vibrations would cause the main journals to move back and forth along the crankshaft not up and down. Would having the cradle redesigned to compensate for the back and forth with reinforced crank thrust washer?
@@zonta71 unfortunately the cradle is actually an amazing design, people could argue the mains need to be physically larger but that's not the case. The real fix at the end of the day is a crank that won't flex.
@@recklessmotorsportsusa3443 thanx
I need a motor 2015 Outdoorsman. Let me knoe when you have something.
I agree with you I just had a guys ecodieasl I service and after a oil change it started leaking from the rear main seal leak and it was park the next day on the side of the street and I go pull the oil filter and my surprise there was lots of metal flakes after two days but also the the truck had 306000 miles so most likely crankshaft or main journals on intake or exhaust side
Can you give me the bearing tightening torque of this motor
How can I contact you today about my eco diesel engine failures? Looking for advice with my eco diesel, crankshaft is out currently in the shop
Our 2015 eco diesel had catastrophic failure at 39,000 and required a new engine when still under warranty. Now at 100,000 we have experienced what feels like hesitation or slipping of gears. Dealer can’t find cause or engine alerts. Any advise?
Trans needs to be serviced every 60k
Did you guys ever end up designing a new crankshaft for this engine?
We are working with a company right now so hopefully in next month or two we will have them
@@recklessmotorsportsusa3443 do you guys have a ball park price range yet or no?
Nope, but I will say we will offer the best crank at the best price over anyone else
I have a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee eco diesel with 55k miles and it just failed. I am just beyond the warranty on the vehicle. Can you offer any advise as to what to do? I plan on calling Chrysler cust care as I am the original owner and hope they will offer some love to replace the engine or fix it. Please help.
They probably won’t help
Cryogenic treatment can solve the problem of the crank ? Dipping it in a liquid nitrogen in -300°C for 24 hours
Does this mean I shouldn't put a tune on the transmission that makes it hold gear better?
What wheels are too big? I’m running 33x12.5/20s
I know people running 37s
1: Cam and sprocket needs a key.
2: Bottom end needs a wider main bearing surface.
1: can be modified
2: not fixable
Cam sprocket can be pinned, bottom end issues were never proven to be an issue with mains
@@recklessmotorsportsusa3443
a naturally aspirated 135 hp Cat 3208 has significantly more bearing surface area than this boat anchor, and they were a laughingstock of diesel bottom ends. 😂
These engines have been used for a very long time without issue in other vehicles, the bottom end issue was a combination of a weak crank and lugging. Obviously larger bearing surface would help with the crank, but so would a stronger crank. Which is what they did in 2020.
I'm not sure you can find 3 legit cam sprocket failures since the engines inception. Sean producer of the infamous video later found out that his motor had not failed. They got it fixed for him and he ran it to 190k miles until his next issue.
The crank harmonics problem with some load at something like 1,300-1,400 rpms I believe was referenced in some FCA documentation If I remember correctly. Crank harmonics is my though as to the main issue with crank squirm and smushing bearing surfaces until one day it just spins one out enough to fail. A common failure statement is; and I baby this truck.
I tow moderate 1/2 ton appropriate weight commercially with this engine. Average travel trailer being like 6k to 6,500 pounds. First engine pushed a head gasket at 371k. Second engine cracked a head at 423k miles. Friend James does the same his has 452k miles and is also now having cooling issues. If no existing issues a tune & new EGR cooler or EGR cooler delete plus proper maintenance with a good duty cycle (long run times) makes for a pretty reliable motor. Same as with the ones across the pond as they say. Main bearing size doesn't seem to be an issue. Just don't idle around work it.
For the casual reader this is not in reference to the new ecodiesel but rather the 2014 thru 2019 in the 4th gen body.
Thanks for all the great information. I just found your video after having my 2018 Jeep GC towed into the dealer with 32K miles on it 5/25/21. Dealer says that the initial indication is rod knock and they’d have to tear it down some more to determine if it’s fixable or an engine swap. I’m still waiting on an answer.
Just a little history here: the EGR/fire recall was done about 600 miles ago. Of course the driveability changed as well as fuel mileage. Dropped about 3-5 per gallon. I’m hoping that with a new engine, the knocking won’t reoccur.
I recorded the rod knock and posted it on my page. If you’d care to give it a listen and an opinion I’d really appreciate it.
My dilemma; do I sell it after it’s fixed because of reliability issues or should I have faith that the replacement crate motor has the bugs worked out of it.
How much for your remanufactured motors?
We are behind on engines right now it’s easier to buy a crank from us and have your motor rebuilt
Does this video include the Gen 3 ?
Hello, I have a ram 1500 3.0l, engine went bad and the mechanic found pieces of string metal in the oil pan. Do you think is worth repairing that engine or swap for a new one? Thanks
In most cases they just replace the engine
This just happened to me, 2019 Grand Cherokee, oil changes to schedule with correct spec 5-40 oil, not used for towing, Jeep say it’s 2 months out off warranty so no claim and want £26,000 British pounds to fix 😨
Two months if you’re lucky there’s people who are coming on over 7 months
@@recklessmotorsportsusa3443 Hi, I was in the Jeep dealer today today to try and get some sense out of them, I parked around the back and a couple of the technicians were having a smoke outside, I got talking to them about my issue and they told ,e that they had two more Grand Cherokees in with the same issue, one was a 2018 with 80,000 miles and Jeep have paid 80% towards the new engine and the other, like mine is being argued about, the other issue is they have quoted 7 months to get parts 🥵
Yes they are backed up big time
Wanna be a millionaire?
Simply invent a way to pump the exhaust gas to the EGR cooler AFTER the dpf filter.
( nice and clean, no oil contamination)
They do this on the new ecodiesel
They just got my ass too. 14k for a new engine. I can’t afford that. It’s crazy how many ppl I see in the comments that it’s recently happen to. And I seen it on other vids too. This isn’t right. Dodge has to make this right.
The line hole is supposedly crooked from factory as well mine just spun all the mains I'm rebuilding it now ...how much for a crank