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- This is to document my experience. Our Eco-diesel had engine failure (main bearing failure) after 59,000 miles of trouble free, well maintained miles. I tow a trailer from time to time (about 4500 Lbs.) All maintenance done on time or early. Always used factory filters and 5w-40 Rotella as recommended in the owners manual. Never driven hard, never any major problems until the engine very randomly died after a routine highway trip. Once at the dealer, they pulled the oil pan to find bearing material everywhere, which started the warranty process for replacement.
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Has this happened to you? Drop a comment, tell us about it. Year, Mileage, Oil Used, Etc..
I just bought one too. Only bought it because it came with a 200,000 mile power train warranty. 👌🏽
Yes, happened to my 2015 at 70,000 miles. Truck was absolutely babied, oil changes under 10k with the recommended oil. This should never happen... Complete engine replacement under warranty. Do you know if the replacement engine is any different?
@@4xprops457 what's wrong with that, I go 35k miles on oil change interval on my 07 duramax and do oil analysis every oil change with Blackstone labs and according to their report I can go to 40k intervals, my engine is shy of 550k miles👍🏾
I just bought a 2017 with 69k miles. One week later it blew all the oil out.
2018 went at 105kms boom
Our company truck a Ram 1500 Eco Diesel, bearing blew and destroyed the engine 6 days after we bought it used at 81,000 miles. Now waiting on an all new long block engine replacement.
Oil analysis every couple oil changes. I run synthetic and send a sample off every 6000 miles I usually don't change it for 24,000 miles. My truck currently has 310,000 miles. Oil analysis has caught everything for me before it took a shit. I should have been inspecting my u joints. My truck threw the transfer case out the driver's side going 70 down the highway. Transfer case split into 2 pieces joint on 4 wheel drive seized up. Thankfully it chunked it straight across the highway to the ditch and nobody hit it.
I did a mod and it runs flawlessly now i will never have to worry again thanks to this simple mod a 4.7 engine swap easy peazy ❤
186k original engine daily driver and occasional towing out to the desert. Had only one egr cooler replaced AEM Recall done.
What is an AEM?
‘17 Laramie Ecodiesel, 88k miles. Been at dealer for over a month with no information other than hole in block. Not impressed on a truck that was maintained by dealerships.
I have 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee eco diesel at 176,000 MILES still no issues! Hopefully stays that way! I know that's a problem and I'm scared of that!
It’s hit or miss with these Ecodiesel engines. I have 112,000 miles on my 2015. Original owner had the AEM and claimed the $3,075 settlement. I did have to replace two turbos, starter, DEF system, three Navigation systems, water pump. The EGR cooler was replaced on recall for leaking coolant.
Definitely not a reliable vehicle. The warranty was well worth the money!
@Chris C I guess, just cause I haven't had any problems doesn't mean others don't. Never had any of those issues! I also drive it alot which think helps it run great! Not to say you don't.
@Chris C That's the problem. I also used to be a test driver for Audi and tested their diesels and the engineers used to always say how these diesels need to be driven cause of the DPF filter and shouldn't be driven for 20 min then turned off. They need to get hot and driven for a while. Which I do. That's probably why it runs so good. I'm sure if I drove it fo 20 min at a time. I would have problems as well.
I have a 2015 JGC ecodiesel at 94k Km, not deleted yet. No significant issues so far but sometimes it kind of lost power no matter how deep I floored the pedal. Pretty annoying on highway
@@boostimalaka1 Damn, some1 totalled my EcoDiesel. It had 200,000 miles. Just changed the DPF filter at 188k which is more then doubled the life expectancy of that, and that's it. Never lost power or anything. Couldn't find another one and have the 5.7 Hemi, which I love, but truly miss the Diesel and would rather have that. I guess it depends on which 1. The diesel are meant to be driven. Driving 10/20 min drives will kill it. And that's only cause of the DPF filter and EGR emission controls.
I do my own oil changes according to the meter in the truck. I use name brand oils. 5w40 synthetic. No mods to the truck. But I let the oil drain from the pan for about half an hour when really hot. The oil seems to have a little more soot in it during the last moment of draining. A little more black. 175 000kms so far. I plan on deleting the def and egr system soon and changing the tune. Dodge messed up my fuel economy with the update other than that 0 issues. 2016 1500 ecodiesel.
Yeah, experienced the identical issue yesterday. Lead to catastrophic failure on the highway.
That sucks! I'm 5k miles in on the new engine, no issues, but I never ever thought it would happen to me. I take great care of the truck. I wish they made quality trucks these days, might have to opt for a toyota. no time for breakdowns.
@@MTsubfly I'm still waiting on word from the dealer. I love my truck but, my have to seriously consider getting rid of it after I get it back.
@@cm12068 I feel the same way. We paid ours off, so no payments is nice, but what if it happens again? I just lost factory warranty (5yr/100k miles). No matter how much I asked FCA, they all said the new engine only continues on the original factory warranty. It doesn't get a warranty of its own unless you bought the engine with your money. Stupid.
The main bearing failed due to the EGR. The soot load overwhelms the oils' detergency/dispercency capabilities. The oil polymerizes and completely clogs the passage in the crank and spins the bearing, (usually cylinder 3 or 4). This is a good engine with an Achilles heel that can be dealt with in 2 ways. 1. Shorter oil change interval (5k miles) 2. Add a bypass oil filter with soot filtering capability.
Original oil weight spec was 5w-30. In 2016 fiat/chrys changed the spec to 5w-40. The jury is still out on this decision. Thicker is not always better.
Shorten the oil change to 3000 miles add dual external oil filters
Block the egr. Problem solved.
@@b33b1m0v3 the only real solution that’s no longer available…for most.
There’s actually 3 ways. DELETE IT
I have a 3rd gen eco diesel and love it!
I am from Morocco and owner of a 2018 grand cherokee with the same engine than the one you have on your RAM, it is the same engine block from VM Motori, engine code A630, starting 2018 they stopped calling them ecodiesel, I do not know why but that’s not really a problem… This is an excellent engine. I am actually 160.000 km with a quite tough drive habits (high speed on highway, driving on sand…) and the engine is still performing like the early days when purchased the vehicle.1
In my opinion, the cause of those engines failure might come from the oil change intervals based on the oil change indicator: most of the time, the indicator tells you need to change the oil around 16.000 km (depending on your driving manner) whereas the suitable interval change should only be 10.000 km. In Morocco, the local dealer who is a direct subsidiary of FCA USA, made mandatory to change the oil every 10.000 km and to ignore the oil change indicator of the vehicle.
Hope this helps,
I feel like some of the people having problems with this truck also have never owned a diesel...Warm up time is very very important on any diesel. I have not once let my oil change go over 8,500 miles. Its cheap and easy to do on your own. I try to let my coolant temps hit about 100F before I even move the truck...I have about 63,000 mostly trouble free miles besides a couple check engine lights that I cleared myself.
@@MattSmith-vl8zp idling is not recommended..turn it on,stay for a few seconds and then just drive it but do not go over 1300/1500 rpm until the temp rises
@@pippo702 I’m talking about 5 minutes or so of warm up time each morning. Not 20 to 30
@@MattSmith-vl8zp I'm not saying warm up time is not important, it's mandatory! But,idling it for 5 whole minutes can cause more damage than good.. especially in those very cold mornings where the oil is very dense and the oil pump struggles..driving the car at 1200rpm or so would helps the oil pump to work better, oil would flows better and the lubricant would reach every part of the engine warming it up more evenly..every morning you would see me driving the neighborhood at 20 or 30 km/h until the water temperature rises up a little..I don't care if I'm on time or late for work..I just do it! And remember to cool it off too before turn it off...especially after long highway trips
It’s that blue magic you need to add
2016 RAM 1500 146,000km, serviced every 10,000km OEM filters and Rotella t6 5-w40. I parked mine before it blew completely.... but its bad and not far off that.
Sorry to see that happen to your truck. Hopefully all works out well. Personally I stay away from anything Chrysler makes. I had 3 ram pickups . Nothing but a headache for me. Just my experiences.
Just happened to me on a Grand Cherokee 2019 , 75000 Km, dealer full maintence , no trailing ...absolutely well care , but happened
had this happen to me the first dealer they towed it to refused to work on it 58000 milles so i call corp and they towed it to where i bought the truck they replaced the complete engine i just dont understand how a dealer can refuse to work on it
I can't find a dealer within 100 miles that will touch mine... not even the one I bought it from...
@@bernardgraf7187I got rid of the truck loved it to many problems
Why were you doing extended oil changes Between 8-10K miles? You should be doing oil changes at least every 5-6k miles with light / Med duty diesel trucks.
If people actually read their manual that comes with the truck it tells you to. Ever exceed 8000 miles before changing the oil if using B5-b-20 biodiesel. Not a single gas station I use has a sticker that tells you the exact amount of biodiesel. 10,000 miles on an oil change is stupid.
Seems like all we consumers do is hope that these manufacturers get their issues fixed before we buy one. Doesn’t matter how much you delay in buying one. They don’t attempt to get them ironed out. That costs too much money. They would rather just skirt fixing it under warranty.
My 2006 hemi destroyed itself when Instarted it up. It had 100,000 miles and regular oil changes.
I replaced 2 of my Chrysler minivan transmissions.
I replaced a transmission in my 2000 Grand Cherokee.
Many other common Chrysler problems fixed too.
I finally switched away from them after 30 yrs
I'm the second owner of a 2016, 133,000. Eight months with the truck and the exactly same thing happened. It's at the mechanic now, and we are debating about buy or rebuild the engine.
Buy for the 100,000 warranty if you plant to keep. Imho. I’m on my fourth..
Bro the exact same thing happened to mine! We're tou able to get Chrysler to help you?
Just happened to me. 2018 Ram 1500 about 120,000 km within 2 minutes the engine started knocking, low oil pressure warning and engine shut down. Oil changes done when recommended. Towed to dealer diagnosed as bottom end failure engine seized......waiting for new motor
Happened a few days ago here similar to what you describe. 2018 Dodge Ram 180,000KM. All dealer serviced and maintained.
2014, mine blew at 79000 miles and out of warrenty. I had all oil chages done at the dealership, I had it deleted at 50000 miles thinking it would not happen to me with the delete. There should be a case action law suit against Ram. I was told it would be 15000 for a new moter and only warrenty it for 2 years, no thanks, bought a 2015 Ram 1500 hemi.
Good luck with the valves and cam 👍🏼
Lol- you got another ram product ?? 😝 👎
I have client with a 2016 model ram eco diesel. I’ve been taking care of it at 90k miles, I has 170k now. I really thought we would be doing the engine at 110k, but so far, it’s solid.
Use Mahle oil filter, shell rotella T6 5w40. Change it right at the percentage indicator. No ifs or buts, now 20k mile oil changes and this thing should survive.
Just had the spun bearing issue on a friend's 2018 ram. His engine was totaled. Difference here though was he had oil spilling out under his truck. Part of the bearing damaged the crankshaft seal and oil was able to leak out.
Sounds like the rod was thrown, and punched through the case. Sucks. Some do that, others just spin & seize the bearings
I don’t understand the mentality that 8,000-10,000mi is a good thing *for the engine*. Sure it’s great for the owner - lower operating costs. The fact is the additives in the oil break down far sooner than the base oil does, and those additives include viscosity modifiers. This is what makes multi-viscosity oils work they way they’re supposed to.
Yeah extremely stupid to do that, 4500-5k is the perfect time, anything more is negligence
@@DJCuhhhstin956 When I bought my 2016, they said to change the oil every 10K. I've had nothing but problems ever since
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That's why I do my own repairs... most dealerships are employing who ever they can find to swing wrenches.
Why is Chrysler getting away with selling this engine especially after discontinuing it ? What are the rest of the owners supposed to do when theirs craps out ?
2016 ram 1500 ecodiesel. Total engine failure at 64K. Went into Limp mode on the freeway....oil all over the road. All dealer maintained from the time I bought it. 4000 miles past warranty and Chrysler isn't helping at all
hopefully the 2021 gen 3 model is straightened out... I just bought one
Unfortunately it hasn't according to some reports.... good luck with yours though...
Same
R.I.P.
I did also
Nope. My 2021 just had the injection pump go on it. 17k miles.
Damn, 8k-10k between oil changes??? The most for any engine should be no more than 5k
I hear what your saying. The manufacturer says 10k mile changes, I am accustomed to gas engine every 5k, So i usually changed it at 8k miles because diesel engines can generally go longer on a change then a gas engine. So the engine still is a poor design. This happens to brand new vehicles at 3k miles, all the way to well maintained trucks at 300k miles. Question is when will it blow?
Its a diesel....
it seems like there is a lot of Main bearing problems with this engine...
29K Miles or 48K ms our EcoD just locked up in Sept. 2015 we don't drive the truck much, is not a favourite. Big, noisy, slow. I like the HEMI tho. Been on a flatbed more than any thing I've ever owned. Makes my Range Rovers look like Toyotas. Mostly SCR related faults, which was finally solved with a new NOx sensor. Dealer said it was good to go. Then one of our engineers was using it for a weekend and it died in traffic. Told him to get it towed to dealer. Diagnosis = new engine required. Hoping FCA would pitch in, such problems and low miles. NOPE. Waited more than a month. Now looking at options, and in Canada no stock of new motors. Found a long block or used with high kms.
Mine’s starting to knock. Trying to get the glow plug light cleared so I can dump it as a trade-in. Back to gas I guess….
If you don't mind me asking, what warranty did you have and who was it through. My 2016 ED RAM is at 64k mileage and yet a problem but I worry about the unforeseen future owning this vehicle. Thanks, -Chris
From what I’ve seen at dealership anyone who uses the truck to tow with will not make it to 100k mikes on stock engine , unloaded they seem to last decent , super rare to see them over 300k , I’ve only seen one working at dealership make it to 300k never pulling a trailer in its life
The main bearing oiling hole clogs and takes the engine out routinely
So says a south african dude on youtube. Im guessing he was offed by FC for releasing that video. Sharp dude.
Deleting is the only way to make gen 1 and 2 eco diesels reliable. Hopefully the problem is fixed on the gen 3
Sounds like the junk GM diesels from the 70's and 80's.
Guess I'll avoid this diesel engine.
There is now a 3rd generation of this motor and it supposedly corrects all the problems
I work at dodge dealership and these eco diesels are by far the engine that is changed more then any other engine we see fail ... junk
2014, 15, 16?
Ouch
Did you modify the engine? Exhaust,Chip,injectors etc?
Nope, stock
@@MTsubfly The exhaust was a tad loud.
@@williamryan7403 That was the knock
How much was this repair?
8-10K mile oil change interval... That'll do 'er.
Also, it's Italian...
Have 176,000 on mine and love it. Not one problem for me.
@@Fab-ec8os you are definitely the blind squirrel.
Have you seen the mains on these? They are small for a gas engine, TINY for a diesel. Add a shit oiling system and there you go.
just happened to my 2018 ram Ecodiesel 109 000 km
What year is your truck?
Any update what happened? Thanks
Main bearing failed, so it was replaced under warranty.
Holy crap...the cab has to come off for an engine swap?
Yea buddy!
The cab has to come off just to replace the turbo
That much disassembly, the truck will never be the same.
Yeah, been that way for about ten+ years on a ford. Too much crap in the way to actually work on the engine. Can actually take the cab off in about 20 minutes with lift.
I was in a Ford shop once and there were several super duty cabs in the air.
So how much does this repair cost it is not covered under warranty
out of warrenty it cost me $18,000 in Canada
That doesn’t sound good especially if the engines are going out around 100,000 miles
If that happens to me, and I'm still under warranty, it''ll be full fucking send! But seriously, this a weird problem, and it's too bad, because those are nice engines.
Lmao yeah nice engine! 👌
why does this happen to the engine? any preventive maintenance so that this does not happen?
Main bearing design is poor I guess. Use the best oil, make sure to cool the engine down after driving, and frequent oil changes. Sucks!
Exhaust soot gets into oil and clogs main bearing passageway. Oil starvation, then engine eats bearing
@@Nostradamus_Order33 Yep even passed the filter too its an oiling problem and if you look at the Main bearings there tiny as hell for a diesel its built like a gas engine..
@@Mr_Meowingtons
Diesel trucks need a Kardasian bottom end. Fiat has picked a Katie Perry bottom. I’ve been also arguing this point with people on YT. I’m glad to know there is at least one ☝️ person besides me that knows diesels.
@@Nostradamus_Order33 Damn near every Diesel engine I worked on use King Bearings..Them Dodge Bearings look like thin ass cardboard was used..Just a cheap design bearing surface...
Oil needs to be changed every 4 to 5000 miles.
Update????
When you see low oil pressure, panic.
Ford engines have their problems with the valve train. All new truck engines are not bulletproof.
Yep I got 120k on my Ecoboost all tuned up. I use good oil and a catch can so my timing chain seems to be good still *crosses fingers*. I want to replace a timing chain for 3k before replacing a blown engine that's for sure.
My coworkers edodiesel is going on his third engine at 163k miles 😂
Too bad they do such crappy design work on the lubrication systems on these engines.
Dont use normal oil use low ash as required, mostly oil from Europe( Made in there) and change fuel filter because in the US disel is very dirty.Or buy cheap and replace engine.
One of the worst engines made. They are made of glass and fail constantly
This engine was originally a GM design. Fiat got the rights to it as part of a 5 billion dollar settlement with GM due to their merger failure.
Sounds like something a RAM fan would say.
I believe it is developed by VM Motari, an Italian company that was independent but has since been acquired by FC.
NEVER buy DODGE
Sorry but why do people continue to buy this junk? You hear nothing but horror stories about these engines failing left and right with low mileage...that's totally unacceptable!
I'm surprised with technology today, that of all problems an engine can have, it had to be main bearing failure. Fairly common with this engine, and completely fatal to it. Come on Ram! Now I will probably not buy a FCA product again! You had one job to do!
There are many of these trucks that have had zero problems after 100k+ miles. The failure rate is certainly higher than average, but RAM has stepped up and generally taken care of the owners. I have had no issues with my Eco in the 2 years I've owned it. I am really happy with mine.
@@NDSTraveller there is always 1 person that will not have a problem.. But I seen 8 with blown up Main bearings in 1 year all had 5 of them where under 50K 2 where under 30K. if you ever see the size of the Main bearings in this engine you will shit your self! the engine is built like a gas engine going in to a Honda civic. and people are towing with them.
These are phenomenal engines and make great power, mine came with a worry free 200,000 mile warranty so I bought one. Don’t care if it blows up, it’s covered.
@@mikerobinson8734 how many years on that?
Junk...period. I've owned hemi's, I know they issues with cams, I now have an older 09' 3500 with a cummins with 355,000km, running like a Swiss watch.
3.0l failure is very common on this engine. Stick with v8
You won't love it when your warranty is over and you still have a turd for an engine. Better lemon law it.
I don't know why anyone would buy a EcoDiesel.
B/C Most are Bullet Proof and go many Hundreds of Thousands of miles all with Incredible Fuel Millage .. Like about 30 MPG.
1320fastback,
"I don't know..."
Ignorance is bliss ...
Junk.
Well sorry but is ram, everyone i know says they're crap and have problems with it, also eco,hybrid, flexfuel, electric yuck I stay away from those
What do you suggest?
@@NDSTraveller from my research tundra or Tacoma
@@kostadinustavalkov1902 So my choices are overpaying Toyota for a Tundra and get 10mpg and 12 year old technology or a Tacoma so I have to borrow my friend's RAM to pull anything? No thanks. I do have a Tacoma for beating around, but it gets worse mpg's, can't tow even half the weight, rides like a dumptruck and is in no way close to being as refined as my RAM Eco is.
@@NDSTraveller and you'll pay the difference in repairs ,all of my friends that have rams hate it and got rid of them. I hope it works for you tho don't get me wrong I'm just sharing my thoughts based on that and watching other TH-cam videos , I don't own a truck so it's not my personal experience
@@kostadinustavalkov1902 Understood my friend. This is my third RAM in a row, and I've been happy so far. If my RAM starts on fire tomorrow I might have a change of heart, but so far, so good. Cheers and thanks for your insight!