2021 Mazda CX-30 vs. 2021 Subaru Crosstrek - POV Comparison

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    2021 Mazda CX-30 Premium
    MSRP: From $28,550
    Horsepower: 186 hp
    Engine: 2.5 L 4-cylinder
    Payload: 975 to 1,027 lbs
    MPG: Up to 25 city / 33 highway
    Tire size: P215/55R18
    2021 Subaru Crosstrek Limited
    MSRP: From $27,995
    Horsepower: 182 hp
    MPG: 27 city / 34 highway
    Towing capacity: 1,500 lbs
    Tire size: P225/55R18
    Curb weight: 3,298 lbs
    Fuel tank capacity: 16.6 gal
    0:00 Interior/exterior walkaround comparison
    2:32 Mazda CX-30 Driving Impressions
    7:09 CX-30 Summary
    8:16 CX-30 Bose Sound System Test
    9:49 Subaru Crosstrek Driving Impressions
    14:03 Crosstrek Summary
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  • @cruizing
    @cruizing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    "The Crosstrek still looks like a hiking boot". That was a hilarious and interesting way to describe the Crosstrek.

    • @goldstein10493
      @goldstein10493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah well these are SUVs, and Subaru looks like an actual proper SUV.

    • @es8059
      @es8059 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He's not gonna get that Subaru sponsorship with characterizations like that. 😂 But accurate.

    • @oldfrend
      @oldfrend ปีที่แล้ว +3

      as an avid hiker myself, that's a good compliment imo, esp. if you intend to offroad your car. ironic then, i just bought a cx30 turbo XD

    • @hoser7706
      @hoser7706 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      While true the CX30 looks like a chesp pair of climbing shoes. 😉

  • @Unchainedmaple888
    @Unchainedmaple888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    I will say that despite it's lack of visibility and space, the turbo CX-30 is gonna be a beast. Also, absolutely fantastic analogy with the crosstrek being a nice hiking boot while the cx-30 is more like a nice leather boot.

  • @windingroadmagazine
    @windingroadmagazine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    Surprised that the Crosstrek actually held its own. Both class leaders in different ways.

    • @BoopSnoot
      @BoopSnoot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      If anyone was considering the Crosstrek Limited loaded which is $31.5K, wait for the CX-30 Turbo, which starts at $31K. With 250hp and the more efficient transmission it will blow the Subaru away.

    • @almondity5278
      @almondity5278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I kinda think you are TheTopher without talking, and you guys usually do the same cars near same times

    • @sandersoncampbell9402
      @sandersoncampbell9402 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@almondity5278 he’s the producer for the winding road channel

    • @schuylerhecht8253
      @schuylerhecht8253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Subaru is the best AWD system in the world why wouldn't it hold its own?

    • @BoopSnoot
      @BoopSnoot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@schuylerhecht8253 The AWD in the crosstrek is considered "dumb" mechanical symmetrical AWD, in that it lacks sophisticated electronics to balance torque or optimize efficiency by reducing friction by not giving power to tires when not needed. The best AWD systems for example can send 100% of power to the front wheels or even one of the front wheels with electronic clutches, and limit themselves to RWD or FWD for greater efficiency when not needed. The REALLY best AWD systems are like Mercedes where they also have active suspensions that can "bounce" the suspension automatically for things like beaches and loose dirt to get out of, and that's why they cost a fortune. Search "Outback TFL goldmine hill fail", and you can see the latest Outback failed to get up it even though cheap subcompacts like the Renegade did make it.

  • @WillyToons
    @WillyToons 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Looking back a year later, this was probably your best video. The setup, the direction, the commentary, having both cars drive at the same time so you see the other while driving, it's peak Topher.

  • @bcrandeis
    @bcrandeis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    One of my good friends used to have a crosstrek and I will say, with a good set of tires, it's really incredible the level of grip the crosstrek has even on stock suspension. You have a lot of handling capability overhead with them

  • @stevelamotte5505
    @stevelamotte5505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I bought the 2021 Crosstrek Limited, top choice for our Minnesota winters!

  • @sentient02970
    @sentient02970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I've driven in vermont all of my life and my new crosstrek drives the best in winter up here than any car I've ever owned.

    • @schuylerhecht8253
      @schuylerhecht8253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I live in NY, Got a 2017 Crosstrek. It's my favorite car I've owned...compared to my old Jeep it's by far a better AWD.

    • @benjaminsmith2287
      @benjaminsmith2287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Subarus are the official car of Vermont. They're everywhere.

  • @sprinklermadness
    @sprinklermadness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    So crazy! I had these 2 models as my finalists but I think I am going with the Crosstrek. Mazda felt more luxurious. Looked more luxurious and first impression was more wow, but the Crosstrek just drove better in my opinion and the seats were way more comfortable. Add the fact that the Ctosstrek is made in Japan while the CX30 is made in Mexico was the deal breaker for me. Was not an easy choice to make though.

    • @khronin
      @khronin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I talked to a tech and he said mazda built in Mexico are very good and durable comfort wise.everyone that touches that car is accountable down to the time and date of what was done to it.So if there is a failure--say a seat belt latch and it goes in for warranty--they can tag it and send the report to the factory to see who or what made a mistake if any.I just had a KIA Stinger made in korea and it was very well built and the mazda CX-30 i just bought feels even better,My stinger jumped in value so i sold it and was able to buy a fully loaded cx-30 premium plus and put several thousands--almpst 9k in the bank.So I own the CX-30 and all its insurance--gas and maintenence are paid for for the next 5 years.In the CUV market and I have driven most of them and wanted a GLA 45 AMG--this mazda is in 2nd place behind the AMG,I could have used all of my cars bank account and also bought the AMG outright--but I am going to enjoy this CX-30 at least till 2025 and maybe by then the KONA N comes out in AWD and under 45k.BTW I bought the CX-30 at Hyundai and they gave me the 10 year 100k warranty on the CX-30s powertrain--so it was a no brainer to buy it and shows they are dependable.The AMG also has spotty reliability and the subaru is not even close to being sporty enough--I do more spirited driving then offroad==so cx-30 was the choice.

    • @nezarshdeed5314
      @nezarshdeed5314 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree good choice that you went with the cross-trek, on top that the cross-trek has a better reliability score than Mazda especially in the long run if you plan to keep your car

    • @lajya01
      @lajya01 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've had a Mexican build Mazda 3 for 4 years now and I have nothing to say about the assembly quality. Much better than my 2 previous Japan and Canada built Toyotas that were creaking all the time.

    • @EazybakeEvan
      @EazybakeEvan ปีที่แล้ว +2

      crosstrek slow af

    • @sprinklermadness
      @sprinklermadness ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EazybakeEvan I didn't buy it to go fast meat head

  • @llmelancon7884
    @llmelancon7884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This road test comparison video seems to be very honest and unbiased. There are some missing elements, like long term comfort, fuel economy, or pricing, but overall gives you a good idea depending on what you are looking for. It helped me greatly in choosing between the two. Thank you!

  • @allisterfong4867
    @allisterfong4867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A very unique side by side comparison in a very good way. Your hiking boot analogy was spot on and hilarious! I’ll never think of a Subie again without your amusing reference. Thanks

  • @RefinedBean
    @RefinedBean 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Obviously late to this party but as I'm in the unlucky position of needing to buy a car in the worst market ever, and these are my top two choices right now, this was super helpful! Really appreciate the thoroughness of the vid.

    • @qaisersheikh2712
      @qaisersheikh2712 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely the time to buy new not used

    • @provax4925
      @provax4925 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro so what car did you pick?

    • @RefinedBean
      @RefinedBean ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@provax4925 Mazda Cx-30 and love it so far

    • @provax4925
      @provax4925 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RefinedBean what trim and how much does it cost you all in all? Right now omg the prices have skyrocketed so ridiculous.

    • @RefinedBean
      @RefinedBean ปีที่แล้ว

      @@provax4925 I did the Select and I paid about 36

  • @TheTopher
    @TheTopher  3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    2021 Crosstrek full review: th-cam.com/video/f0yE2Yfjnx8/w-d-xo.html
    2021 Mazda CX-30 Premium Specs:
    MSRP: From $28,550
    Horsepower: 186 hp
    Engine: 2.5 L 4-cylinder
    Payload: 975 to 1,027 lbs
    MPG: Up to 25 city / 33 highway
    Tire size: P215/55R18
    2021 Subaru Crosstrek Limited Specs:
    MSRP: From $27,995
    Horsepower: 182 hp
    MPG: 27 city / 34 highway
    Towing capacity: 1,500 lbs
    Tire size: P225/55R18
    Curb weight: 3,298 lbs
    Fuel tank capacity: 16.6 gal

  • @BeanieNinjay0
    @BeanieNinjay0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I appreciate the attention to detail found in the CX-30. Like the pulsating turn signal lights that match the pulsating pattern of the arrows on the speedo

    • @2004cyrus
      @2004cyrus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You must have watched Doug Demuros video

  • @Josiah.McGuckin
    @Josiah.McGuckin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "...and the Crosstrek... still looks like a hiking boot." Yep, pretty much sums up. But having owned my Subi for almost a year now, I wouldn't trade it or its raw practicality/versatility for anything else!
    That said, thanks for taking time to do this comparison. I'm not even in the market for a new car but still find your reviews super engaging and helpful.

  • @ale8n
    @ale8n 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The video I wanted so long. No regrets in suscribing to this channel. Greetings from Chile.

  • @henryi9738
    @henryi9738 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was a great comparison, thank you !

  • @jaybou007
    @jaybou007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Exactly the two vehicles that were on my shortlist. Had to make 3 test drives each to take a decision.
    Ended up with the CX-30 for the ride quality and its handling. It's just more fun to drive.
    At 6'3", i'm not cramped behind the wheels. Only person going on the back seat is my loyal German Shepherd so room in the back wasn't an issue.
    That 6-speed just works better for me too. Pretty good in deep snow, might I add.
    But hey, they're two very strong choices. You can't go wrong with them. Just pick your favourite.

    • @jaybou007
      @jaybou007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Stereo Typist The GT Line, which is the top trim. I got a discount from Carcost Canada so it came down to 33 500 $CAN.
      It's a tad more than the Outdoor trim for the Crosstrek (Sport trim in USA) but the CX-30 is much more refined than the Crosstrek.
      Built quality, especially for the interior of the CX-30, is by far best in class. It's built to last long. And it's so comfortable.
      For what I personally need to do with my car, it's a perfect fit.

    • @downhillupside
      @downhillupside 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just don't understand why people are buying these cars if not for the AWD and utility capabilities, which are superior in the Crosstrek. If it was for pure driving reasons, I would have gone with an AWD Mazda 3 hatch (which, hilariously, has larger cargo capacity than the CX-30).

    • @orlandos2000
      @orlandos2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@downhillupside I think because a lot of folks like the way the cx30 looks, it is super fun to drive and the interior is superior to others in its class. It feels, looks and drives like a premium and luxurious car. Plus people are obsessed with crossover vehicles that have AWD and are higher off the ground so that’s why the cx30 over the Mazda 3.

    • @downhillupside
      @downhillupside 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@orlandos2000 I totally get all that, but as a utility vehicle, the Mazda 3 actually has more cargo capacity than the CX-30. The only benefit to the CX-30 is the 1.4 inch ground clearance difference from the Mazda 3. But it's ONLY 1.4 inches, along with the extremely poor approach angles. It makes the CX-30 kind of useless for anything other than a pavement vehicle - in which case, why not the Mazda 3?

    • @orlandos2000
      @orlandos2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@downhillupside I imagine once the cx-30 is a few years old the novelty will die down and sales will even out between it and the Mazda 3. Right now, the cx-30 is the new kid on the block so naturally folks want that one when deciding between the 2. My friend just got a cx-30 just like the one in this review and I admit, seeing folks turn their heads trying to figure out what car your in is kinda fun. The car looks sharp - especially at night.

  • @gabeevans10
    @gabeevans10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yep forget my work schedule because I'm back again! Love the comparison style videos!!!

  • @RaceGasSmellsGood
    @RaceGasSmellsGood 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for a great comparo of two of what I consider to be best in their class, but for completely different reasons!

  • @dave11686
    @dave11686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great video! I love the Crosstrek, driven a few

    • @justanaturalcarguy4031
      @justanaturalcarguy4031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ooo at December, when I’m at school, the team for Ringwood Volkswagen, Victoria Australia, brought the 2015 Quartz Blue Pearl Subaru XV to my house so we bought it, we had a look at the car at home, but we didn’t test drive the vehicle

  • @francesco2647
    @francesco2647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Extremely well made review. Thank you.

  • @kevinpugh1919
    @kevinpugh1919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    They're both completely different styles vehicles, and they both seem to be pretty good. But I think if i had the choice, I would pick the Subaru.

  • @RayRiv73
    @RayRiv73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the sound test!

  • @Jenz123
    @Jenz123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    What an great review . I’m now sold in the CX30

    • @lytxn1453
      @lytxn1453 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I bought a 2021 black CX30 w select trim, larger wheels and tires etc. It's absolutely my favorite vehicle I've ever had.

  • @whatsindansgarage2542
    @whatsindansgarage2542 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Subaru: drives you to your sport. Mazda: driving is your sport.

    • @kylegriffiths5990
      @kylegriffiths5990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They're both crossovers pal. No one is buying these cars because "driving is my sport"

    • @justinriley7325
      @justinriley7325 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@kylegriffiths5990 it was a joke... chill out

    • @K03sport
      @K03sport 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ...well, I would rather take the 6-spd auto over the CVT. Because trying to find a manual Crosstrek 2.0t is nearly an impossible task. I think I would find a Unicorn or Bigfoot faster than finding a manual Crosstrek in a 5-state radius from SW OH.

    • @Sigmanovar
      @Sigmanovar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@K03sport check car max

    • @Sigmanovar
      @Sigmanovar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@K03sport yes manual is the way too go

  • @xuhan4682
    @xuhan4682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    subaru is A LOT louder. For most of people who is not off roading and have empty backseat most of the time, cx30 is a no brainer.

    • @BB-wz6bx
      @BB-wz6bx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Those people shouldn't even consider an SUV/CUV if they aren't going to offroad; this SUV craze is ridicilous.

    • @Jenz123
      @Jenz123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Definitely. In the Subaru it feels like a regular car driving experience no frills no trolls but the cx30 is a level up . So much fun to drive the Mazda

    • @xuhan4682
      @xuhan4682 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well seems like people just like SUVs.

    • @Hallowsaw
      @Hallowsaw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most people ride with music on. Why does it matter?

    • @xuhan4682
      @xuhan4682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@HallowsawQuiet ride means I driver get to enough music with a much lower volume, much more enjoyable and much safer. Plus better insulation improve sound quality dramatically. Noise level is a major criteria when compare comfort, all luxury brand offers quieter cars.

  • @whetsaw
    @whetsaw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Looked at both models. What killed it for the Mazda was no touch screen and cramped space. It had a nice interior but small. I chose the Crosstrek a month ago and don't regret it. Thanks for the comparison review!

    • @sprinklermadness
      @sprinklermadness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not to mention Ctosstrek made in Japan and CX30 made in Mexico. I too made the same choice.

    • @naturehacked
      @naturehacked 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And you got the 150 horsepower one?

    • @marks7965
      @marks7965 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya the lack of touchscreen/infotainment system is kinda crazy, especially for a brand new car.
      Even "ultracheap" cars like the Mitsubishi Mirage have a big touchscreen with Android Auto/Apple Carplay and that car costs like $13k brand new

    • @whetsaw
      @whetsaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@naturehacked The 2.5L.. but I'm having second thoughts... it's sluggish in the city.. very smooth on highway

    • @monkeywkeys3916
      @monkeywkeys3916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marks7965
      I dig the passive hi-rez display physical control format.
      Once you learn it. Keeps my greasy mitts off the screen

  • @jeannettecasasnovas2350
    @jeannettecasasnovas2350 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for making this video. I just moved to CO and I am actually making a decision between the Crosstrek and the CX-30.

    • @tuxiekins
      @tuxiekins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If not too late check out the brand new Bronco Sport ( Badlands edition ). Very cool car.

  • @vee4pitt
    @vee4pitt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I recently traded my Mazda CX-5 for a 2022 Subaru Crosstrek Limited. Best decision I’ve ever made. Crosstrek has more room and more engine power.

  • @cobie111
    @cobie111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks! Very well done video. I've owned the Crosstrek and am considering the Mazda. I got rid of the Subie because the seats were very uncomfortable on long trips. Both great cars, but I think the Mazda looks much better inside and out, and also is more luxurious.

  • @AG-cr6tm
    @AG-cr6tm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and excellent presentation of those two cars.

  • @Kman09JGC
    @Kman09JGC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wife’s 18 crosstrek limited lease is up in couple months. Great car and with more power should be great but that cvt is hard to deal with. CX-30 is nice as well. Going to be tough choice. Thanks for the video.

  • @druzzyaka
    @druzzyaka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    2:48 Thought, that somebody was stealing the Crosstrek 😅

    • @hockey1freak
      @hockey1freak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      C'mon now its a Crosstrek... nobody is gonna steal it.. (I kid I kid its great for what it does).

  • @debbieshields6138
    @debbieshields6138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the comparison. These are the two cars I’m considering, even though I’m a Subaru fan. (I’ve owned a Legacy and now own a Impreza) But at 6:08 you said front wheel drive CX 30. They make a AWD too. I’ll need to test drive them both.

  • @javiervar494
    @javiervar494 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like these kind of videos. Thank you 👍

  • @Daisyworld234_
    @Daisyworld234_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Drove both car and chose Subaru in the end. Subaru felt like it had a lot more power and easier to maneuver and ride despite of having similar horsepower. Mazda looked luxurious but not as practical. Crosstrek won on the utility and versatility.

  • @JRZ67
    @JRZ67 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The CX30 AWD premium is my first suv/AWD. I was driving manual GTI’s, GLI’s and most recently a ‘19 Civic Si coupe. That car had no lumbar support and my 53 year old back couldn’t take it. Mazda is a tight sporty fun car with excellent leather seats. Excellent back support and I am no longer fatigued with horrible back pain like I had in the VW’s and Hondas. Only gripe is poor suburban gas mileage. Cheap Bridgestone Turanzas could have something to do with it. Will change out for Pirelli Cinturato II’s

    • @lee541982
      @lee541982 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just got my CX30 and can't agree more with you about the cheap Turanza tire on it. Mazda could have chosen a much better stock tire, for the same cost.

  • @siyaozhou2101
    @siyaozhou2101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I bought 2021 crosstrek 2 months ago and my friend bought 2021 cx30 last week. I was shocked when I see the interior of cx30. Great car for the interior and technology to be honest. But what I need is a high ground clearance suv for my off road time and my friend need a compact suv for commute.

  • @pauldenali6367
    @pauldenali6367 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I own a 2013 Crosstrek and recently test drove these cars back to back. Agree with your assessment. Was hoping the new Trek would have less wind noise than my old one but alas it's about the same. I wonder if the beefy roof rails are the culprit.
    However I didn't get a chance to drive the Mazda or the Limited on rougher pavement to see if the stiffer suspension on the Mazda gets too jarring. Don't off road but go on dirt roads a lot. Also, the paved roads here in New Hampshire can get rougher than some of the dirt roads. So... hard to decide between these two vehicles. Nice review though.

  • @raulmatusg.880
    @raulmatusg.880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Felicitaciones, excelente trabajo !!

  • @aritruths1452
    @aritruths1452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I think it depends on what the buyer is looking for. The Mazda has more of a premium luxurious feel and look, as the Subaru look is more rugged/entry level and looks as if take me directly off road peeps. Both are great vehicles and either way i think buyers will be satisfied with both. Great Review!

    • @BaconatorJames
      @BaconatorJames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well said. Mazda does so many things better, like steering, interior, transmission, available low-end torque in low RPMs, but it has serious visibility constraints. Huge A pillars, and good luck seeing out the back window, even without rear passengers. Door sills up by your neck, you feel entombed. I'm not that short (5'10"), but there will be people > 6' who'll claim they can see out just fine. Test drive it with visibility in mind, then try a Crosstrek.
      It's odd how the Crosstrek & the CX-30 are competitors, but they're different in so many ways. If you want something that feels high end & don't want to get stuck on bad roads & don't mind the feel of FWD, the Mazda makes more sense. You want to get more aggressive & tend to go on really rough terrain & would like to throw things into the car like camping gear, bikes, paddle boards, etc, you won't top yourself if you scuff up the trunk or put a scratch in a seat if you have a Crosstrek.

    • @chrisfrye5730
      @chrisfrye5730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BaconatorJames you guys got it right. Both are crossovers. For those that want a crossover that feels and performs like a car, who only use the car on road, the Mazda might be the better choice. If you like camping, kayaking, skiing, etc., but didn't want an offroading suv, the Subaru is the better choice. Subaru's put more thought into the outdoors person. You can see it on the raised roof racks and superior ground clearance. No, it's not a rock crawler, but it is more designed for that outdoors person. If I didn't do those things, I'd give more thought to the Mazda.

    • @BaconatorJames
      @BaconatorJames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@chrisfrye5730 Agreed. With only 182hp, the Crosstrek isn't fooling anyone that it's a mean offroader. It can handle rougher terrain than you'd think, but it's doing it slowly. Subaru's low-tech AWD system is still the best I've tried. Traction in rough weather is a given, most systems work for that. It's the feel of the back wheels pushing as well that gives you confidence. I don't like to remain brand loyal, so if I end up with a car of the same brand, it's because I've done my homework or there's something the brand offers that I can't do without. Subarus have been a niche 'yuppy' brand for years. They're not pretty inside, they're dowdy outside. Subaru knows their target audience well.
      The niche is key to these designers. Car models get bigger & bloated every year so as to compete with the competition on "The X has the most Y when compared to Z". The CRV, RAV4, Forester, etc - they all began about half the size they are now, growing "with the generation that bought them". More kids, need more space. For those who don't have kids or just need a second, smaller car & still want ground clearance & AWD, a smaller model is born to fill that gap. SUV becomes CUV.
      The Forester got too big, hence the Crosstrek.
      The CX-5 begat the CX-3.
      The CRV begat the HRV.
      The RAV4 begat the CH-R.
      etc...
      I appreciate luxury, but giving up the agility, the parking lot maneuvering, driving in narrow lanes - I opt for the CUV. One thing I'm really disappointed in these days is the general lack of power. I'm in a minority I guess, since most people just want a car "with enough power". It's not just transportation & convenience to me. I love to drive. I love to drive pretty well any car, cheap or expensive (with the exceptions of the Plymouth Sundance & Lada, which were abusively bad). With EV's coming, we'll finally get our power. When Mazda threatened 250hp & 300 ft lbs of torque, I instantly responded. I respect what they've done. The '93 octane' thing is quite annoying, but I can respect they're competing with emission standards. Subaru dropped their 250hp Forester due to only 6% of their buyers opting for it. I test drove the last model year they sold the Forester XT and while it has 250hp, it's a lot like the Mazda - it's jarring but not in a good way. The transmission grunts & the engine sounds like it's begging for mercy.
      Audi, IMO, make the best drivers' cars. They're out of my price range so I try to get as close to them as I can. Mazda's interiors look a lot like Audi. The touchscreens are still ridiculously small (for correct screensize, see the 2021 Subaru Legacy). In the EU, you can get the RS Q3. The 'S' version of their smaller Q3 CUV, but with 350hp, 4.5s 0-100 kmh. That's it, that's the car I want. I'd make sacrifices, work overtime, but mostly I'd just be happy there's something there for people who want more that 'enough'. Mazda came closer than any other CUV on the market, but every model iteration & my current car is paid for, I drive all the competition.
      Honda HRV: Dangerously slow. Inferior AWD to the entire market.
      Honda CRV: Not worth the price, but they're actually fantastic. Not bad power, if 'enough' is your target. Inferior AWD to the entire market.
      Mazda CX-5: Best i've driven in the SUV market, back in 2016. Enough power. You could see out of them. They've grown too big since.
      Mazda CX-3: As always, the best interior quality & appearance. For the price of a Honda HRV, but now you can't see out the back window & the back seat room is only good for contortionists. The salesman lied & said their AWD is superior to Subaru & he directed me to a TH-cam vid that was trying to prove it. It was misinformation. Plus, if I hear that unforgiveable "zoom zoom" one more time. He said it twice when I asked about handling/power.
      Subaru Forester: No longer have power. Their top of the line Forester ($51k CDN) doesn't have automatic passenger seats. It's grown too big.
      Subaru Crosstrek: A little more power added, and their low-end torque is back if you use S mode at least in the city. I love it. It's too long & the touchscreen is too small, and you have to manually disable that EVIL feature that shuts your engine off when idling. The sport model isn't sporty at all. The Premium (or whatever the flagship model is called in the US) is IMO the best in class all around. Has X-Mode in case you get stuck in deep stuff.
      Toyota RAV-4: I took one look in the cockpit & walked out. Toyota make the most reliable cars in the world, but when someone gets out of a Subaru and finds the RAV-4's interior to be hideous & institutional, you've got a problem. I've always wanted to buy a Toyota, but like Mazda, they manage to do something stupid in their design.
      Nissan: I was forced to watch 3 Nissan commercials in a row on an overseas flight once, during the "no headphones, wait for the seatbelt sign to light up" phase. Couldn't turn the volume down. Then I saw the same Nissan commercial play another 3 times at a theatre during the spam/previews. Nissan can take their unreliable lineup & stick em.

    • @chrisfrye5730
      @chrisfrye5730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BaconatorJames you know your stuff, more than me. I went with a Corolla here for 12 years in Massachusetts. Boringly reliable. Thank goodness my kid turned 16 and gave me an excuse to pass it to him. We had gotten into kayaking and hiking and I wanted something good in the snow and capable of easily handling the kayaks. So I ended up with a Tacoma, but I did eyeball the Outback pretty close. I do miss the agility and everything that you mentioned I'd get back in a CUV, so I'm always shopping and researching for my next car, even if it might be years away. I don't think I'll ever get a FWD again while living up here. The snow tires helped a lot, of course, really important. But give me some ground clearance and more tires in on the action. I looked at the Rav4. I didn't like the visibility in it. Out the front was okay, but I had a hard time with the sides and the back. My mom's Forester has great visibility.

    • @BaconatorJames
      @BaconatorJames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chrisfrye5730 You deserve a medal for reading my post, I went on way too much!
      The Corolla is possibly the best 'generic' car that's ever been sold. You said it, boringly reliable & what better car to get someone for their first car. That Tacoma is the best looking truck. I love them. They're out of my league for overall size, but the main thing that I'd miss would be the ability to cover the bed (though I know you can get a cover or a cab cover for it).
      I also had FWD for most of my life. I've had Hondas since I was 19 (I had a Triumph TR7 for my first car, a VW Rabbit convertible when I was 17 & 18). The best overall car I've owned was a Honda Fit ('09 and '15). You can put a bike in the backseat, upright, since the seat bases fold up. I drove 1900 kms at once a few yrs ago & it was so easy since I could fully stretch out in the back with the seats all folded flat & got hours of sleep at rest stops. Helped friends move with it, even. After a few harsh winters, I got my first AWD (Subaru WRX). I got it with the (I know, ugh) CVT transmission. It was meant to be a Toronto car & traffic there is horrible. I ended up staying in Atlantic Canada so the snow is as bad as anywhere. All the people in my building would be digging for hours - I'd clear off my windows, signal lights, headlights & despite its low ground clearance, the wheels didn't even spin when I drove out of snow as deep as the hood scoop. Turning off TCS on a newly-plowed but snow-packed road & gunning it in a WRX is an incredibly good time. Steer with the throttle & parking brake, turbo's chirping away, it's so fun. I've got 4 steelies with winters which were thrown in free by Subaru when I bought it.
      Agree re: visibility. Seems like a trend now, this bad rear view. Even the new Tesla Y has that problem (though the cameras give a much better view on the massive screen, you need to keep those cameras clean from snow/grit, etc). Being in a Subaru or Audi kind of spoils you for visibility, and the Honda Fit was even better. I do miss being up higher sometimes though, and even the Crosstrek is up higher enough that you're able to see much better. I'm happy as long as I can see the outer extremities of the car. Mazda were by far the worst for rear visibility, and for two times I was in the market for one (CX-3, CX-30GT), the main reason I passed on them was the visibility. Why do Mazda go so far by hitting it out of the park in so many areas but then they adhere to a design that's actually a flaw...

  • @davidwayne9982
    @davidwayne9982 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    YES-- I"ve been WANTING to see this--- wish you'd do one with 2024 versions.. or 2023 at least... THANKS great video.

  • @nickmagotti9738
    @nickmagotti9738 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Review!!!

  • @thundering_fox
    @thundering_fox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bought a Soul Red CX-30 Turbo Premium Plus almost half a year ago and have loved almost every part of it. Main reason I chose this over the Crosstrek was the combination of luxury feel, decent amount of power (0-60 in 5.8 seconds) and overall quality. It just feels better to me, 8 inches of ground clearance is enough for this type of car (only 0.7-inch difference to the Crosstrek) and the 6-speed auto just feels so much smoother over the Crosstrek's CVT. Only thing I liked better on the Crosstrek was the overall visibility, it definitely is better in the Subaru. Anyways, bias aside, this is a great comparison!

  • @ChadRobertHill
    @ChadRobertHill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yeow! good choice. I also bought a CX-30 G25 Astina AWD (top of the range in Australia). It feels more Lexus than Toyota.... I love it! 😍

  • @benjaminsmith2287
    @benjaminsmith2287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The Subaru is a real SUV and it doesn't have that cramped, low visibility feeling in the back the Mazda has. And it rides great. I think the Subaru is the more honest, down-to-earth vehicle here. Mazda is better as a sedan, a premium sedan or hatch.

    • @nilaomugexi
      @nilaomugexi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      toyota has higher visibility

    • @alphachow
      @alphachow 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. If I buy a Mazda it would be the Mazda 6.

    • @jonlosito2004
      @jonlosito2004 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea.. I say the Toyota 4 Runner is even more of a real SUV. Yes I know it’s bigger, but It’s got 4WD, tons of off road features especially Locking diff, and Crawl Control. And it’s got a 5 speed. It’s an old school transmission, but at least it’s peppy and not a CVT. The Crosstrek is more of a raised Impreza hatchback like every other new vehicle

    • @jimmycoady4929
      @jimmycoady4929 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonlosito2004
      a Toyota 4 runner is not a crossover and it’s like $50,000 so of course you get more because it’s almost twice the price and the crosstrek is much more than a raised Impreza lol just drive one and you will see immediately

    • @jonlosito2004
      @jonlosito2004 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimmycoady4929 Ayyoo My dad already has a 2018 Crosstrek Limited and he just barely fits in there. He’s 6.2 ft tall but he can live with that. I’m 5.10 ft tall and I barely sit up straight in the back row. My head touches the ceiling a little bit. And the CVT doesn’t necessarily perform well and they don’t last really long unlike the old 5 speed auto. The reason I suggested a 4 Runner is because its currently in my first car list. I’m currently 18 years old and I couldn’t even decide what I want as my first car!! Trust me.. it’s a lot for me!! LOL 😂

  • @roamaroundgisg7362
    @roamaroundgisg7362 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful. I appreciate your driving review.

  • @ludwigvanbeethoven3970
    @ludwigvanbeethoven3970 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this style of videos

  • @zadokmotorfreight2423
    @zadokmotorfreight2423 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video, thanks!

  • @vincento1067
    @vincento1067 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I spent the last 6 months doing research, test driving and test driving. It came down to these two for my choice. I finally decided on the CX30 turbo. I was looking for an AWD commuter that would be fun to drive, comfortable and luxurious. These really are two different vehicles for people with 2 different tastes and needs. I hike and kayak but don't need the AWD system of the Subaru to do this with. Mazda has done an outstanding job on the interior, fit and finish of the CX30.

  • @ClueSign
    @ClueSign 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for an informative comparison, these are the very two cars I'm about to choose between -- as an older driver (looking to step down from a bit in $ from Audi Q3 or BMW X1) , I'm leaning toward the Mazda. One other important point is the trim level you were driving on Crosstrek seemed to be the Limited, where the sunroof is an add-on (beginning at 1K); whereas it's standard on the Mazda. I'd like to get the CX-30 Turbo at 250 HP, but they're very hard to come by in the this model year.

    • @jmfoty4280
      @jmfoty4280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I purchased the CX-30 Premium w/o turbo last summer. It is awesome!

  • @6193drizzle
    @6193drizzle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    If the Subie had rear vents and a USB port it would be damn near perfect

    • @Mo.Jo.
      @Mo.Jo. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The redesigned crosstrek in a couple of years should fix that - i hope. Thats my issue with the subaru too, and i'd like them to make the 2.5L a base engine so its offered throughout the line up. I dont want to have to spring for a higher spec model just to get a run of the mill 2.5L.

    • @6193drizzle
      @6193drizzle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hopefully , have a 2018 and now have an infant so those lack of vents are almost dealbreaker. AC isn’t very strong either, maybe the 2.5 will fix that

    • @richardnugent7035
      @richardnugent7035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Crosstrek also only has only single-zone heating/AC in front and the driver and passenger seats are not very adjustable. Plus it is REALLY noisy when accelerating. You are are paying the same price for a sort of bare-bones car compared to the CX-30 (which also handles better..... I have driven both while looking for a replacement for my 2014 Forester XLT 2.5L turbo). Subaru better watch their back because Mazda and the others are providing much better value in this segment.

    • @user-wl9cn5kw1e
      @user-wl9cn5kw1e 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mo.Jo. Об этом говорили ещё три года назад, но воз и ныне там. Считается, что бы покупали Forester.

    • @drunksquirrel2051
      @drunksquirrel2051 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardnugent7035 nobody cares. Go away

  • @QueenFairy420
    @QueenFairy420 ปีที่แล้ว

    i wanted the mazda3 carbon edition in 2023, it sold yesterday, so im going for the crosstrek now :)

  • @lilymae4131
    @lilymae4131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Crosstrek is easier to get in and out of for us older folks. Subaru has done an amazing job with so much interior space and all of our family drivers from short and petite to tall and hefty, can find a comfortable driving position. Where we live ground clearance does make a difference in winter driving as some storms bring near 5 feet of snow over a just few days. The road crews try to keep up, but residential streets sometimes get deep enough to high center cars and even dedicated snow tires wont help if the car's belly slides up on top of the snow and the tires no longer contact the road. Not saying the Mazda isn't a great vehicle, I like that it comes with an automatic instead of the CVT, and it does have great looks, and if you live in a city that isn't in the top 10 for snowfall per season, I'm sure it would do fine. Even here if you lived on a well maintained road it would likely have adequate clearance. Maybe the hiking boot to leather boot is a good comparison, what ever is most comfortable for you.

  • @craigjohnchronicles2504
    @craigjohnchronicles2504 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We just compared these two cars in January - the car would be used for work commute and canoe camping. So there will definitely be plenty of northern WI gravel and dirt roads to be had.
    We drove both cars back-to-back. We first drove the CrossTrek Sport, and really liked it - far better than I expected, even though it feels more utilitarian than anything we have ever driven prior. One thing I really like about the CrossTrek is the range. With its 16.6 gal tank, you get a range of well over 500 miles on the HWY. I could easily drive from Madison, WI to the Boundary Waters in MN on a single tank of gas, fill it up in Grand Marais and not have to worry about filling up again if drove up and down the Gunflint Trail several times. I also like the seat-back protector in the cargo area. Great option when you fold the rear seats down, and load up the rear with gear. ...dirty gear. Wish the CX-30 offered this as an option.
    But when we drove the CX-30, the fit, finish and ride felt so much better and more refined in the CX-30. The Carbon Edition is just damn sexy inside and out, especially with its red leather interior on the inside.
    We chose the CX-30 for a couple of reasons.
    1. If I'm going to drive the CX-30 4-5 hours north of my home for canoe camping, I'd like to ride in comfort and style. The Mazda has that in spades. The ride, handling and performance reminds of the 1993 manual 6-cylinder Mazda 626 we had back in the day. I loved that car - felt like it was the best car Mazda had built that wasn't the 1993 Mazda RX-7. And I actually may prefer this CX-30 over that fantastic 1993 626.
    2. The 8" ground clearance in the 2023 Mazda CX-30 is more than enough for gravel/rocky and dirt roads. So there was no appreciable benefit of the CrossTrek here, even though it's 0.7" higher than the Mazda.
    3. I know it's polarizing, but I do appreciate the extra plastic cladding on the lower part of the CX-30. Some people think it's ugly for a car, and they're probably right. But on gravel and dirt roads, that cladding is going to protect the paint on the bottom of the car, so it's much more functional than most people believe.
    Mazda knocked it out of the park with the CX-30; with seemingly the perfect blend of style/comfort, ride/handling and utility. ...CX-30 and CrossTrek are equally capable on dirt and gravel roads. The CX-30 easily fits my fishing rods, kayak paddles, fishing net and fishing gear, tent and camp gear, as well as my canoe on the roof. The CX-30 fits in beautifully right below the CX-50, which we also considered, but wanted something smaller, as we already have a Honda Pilot as a family hauler.

    • @johnpiccini9327
      @johnpiccini9327 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Test drove the CX-30 and Crosstrek and decided to go with the CX 30. Just picked her up a week ago today. The only thing I liked better on the Crosstrek was the rear seat space , but like you, we also have a Honda Pilot to use for those long family trips.

    • @craigjohnchronicles2504
      @craigjohnchronicles2504 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnpiccini9327 - Agree. The CrossTrek had a bit more knee room in the rear seats, but our kiddos don’t complain at all. Plenty of room for them. Perfect for us for whipping around town to stores, games, and functions. Much easier to park in the city than the Pilot. …Plus, I don’t have to sit back there.

    • @bizmonkey007
      @bizmonkey007 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The CX-30 definitely blows the Crosstrek away in terms of style and comfort. Like you said, the Carbon edition is just jaw dropping. The Crosstrek isn’t trying to be a luxury car in all fairness and seems to revel in its plain, utilitarian and rugged design. You really can’t go wrong with either, it just becomes a matter of taste at a certain point.

    • @craigjohnchronicles2504
      @craigjohnchronicles2504 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bizmonkey007 - Carbon Edition gets the turbo engine in 2024, priced below the Turbo Premium package. Damn. Bought my car a year too early. 😆

  • @vitor2650
    @vitor2650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For me it came down to the CX-30 and the Crosstrek. I was concerned with the leg room in the back seat of the CX-30 and I just handed down my 2013 Mazda3 hatch to my daughter so I decided to try a Subaru. I went with the Crosstrek Sport. We went on a road trip to Yosemite and when the missus or the kiddo were driving I sat in the back and it was comfy. I don’t like that there wasn’t a vent in the back though. The missus also liked the ride of the Crosstrek better than her GLA250 hatch. I do too except when I’m driving winding mountain roads. The GLA250 has much firmer handling.

  • @lbickert6809
    @lbickert6809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great, largely unbiased review of both cars. My question is this: WHY DO SO FEW PEOPLE NOTICE OR COMMENT OR CARE ABOUT VISIBILITY ISSUES WITH MAZDAS?! I had a Mazda Protege for 12 years and loved it. Only got rid of it because it was stick shift and my son was learning to drive; in a big city the driving itself is quite enough to master. Bought a Mazda 3 hatchback. Speedy, responsive, cute, but the worst visibility due to the enormous PILLAR between the windshield and the driver's door. Didn't notice it during routine test drive, that's on me. My son and I both had many scary incidents of seeing a pedestrian walk out of "nowhere", to right in front of the car at stop signs, for example. My father had a Subaru Forester and I always loved the fishbowl view, zero blind spots. I resolved to sell the Mazda and take the financial hit. Could NOT drive the Mazda 3 anymore. Luckily, my son had a small, no injury accident soon after, with a pole on an icy day and the exterior was very crumpled, so I got reimbursed for the PURCHASE price I had paid, by insurance and I walked straight into a Subaru dealership. Been very happy with my Forester, especially the sightlines, and will likely go for the Crosstrek when I replace for something smaller. I find it shocking that Mazda and the majority of their customers, don't rate visibility as a major priority. I'll take cheaper looking interior and a little wind noise any day over driving blind. Lace up the hiking boot!

  • @BaconatorJames
    @BaconatorJames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I test drove the CX-30GT Turbo a couple of weeks ago.
    Loaded with features, very comfortable, more tech than all the competition. Bose sound is very good, and unlike most, I don't mind the non-touch touchscreen adjustment. Transmission is great, but it won't let you rev to redline in manual mode. Power is very good, best in the category - but the engine sounds hilariously bad. The real power comes from using 93 octane fuel, which limits you. You can NOT disable the traction control, so if you want to have any fun in the snow, that's been cancelled. The power's just uneven & feels gimmick-like, it's hard to explain - it doesn't really serve a purpose for the type of car this is. The handling is mediocre, quite soft. The Crosstrek Limited handles better & despite the amount of hate out there for CVT's, they just make more sense for a car like this. If you're used to a Subaru AWD system and like the feel of the back wheels pushing you, forget it in this one. It's VERY front wheel drive unless the back wheels are needed for traction. If you prefer a Honda Civic to, say, a WRX, you're in luck with this car. The ride is very quiet and refined. Very peaceful, except for the appliance-like groan of the engine. It might have 250hp if you find 93octane fuel, but it sounds like a Honda Fit on the inside (with much less road noise).
    The steering wheel feels cheap. It's too thin, especially on the bottom part. It's heated though, which is nice. Controls are NOT intuitive on the steering wheel. Most buttons are well laid out, but some buttons are recessed & terribly awkward.
    The gauge cluster is awful. In almost every steering wheel position, you can't see the signal light indicators. You can't see the speedometer in almost any position either, so the gauge real estate is wasted with two fuel gauges & if you want a digital speedo, you'll have to rely on the HUD display (not a prob for me, but many will). The colors do go very well together inside. There are no USB ports for back seat passengers, and much like Subaru, for a $40k CDN car, you're not getting an automatic passenger seat.
    It's a very good looking car, a very good quality brand and has great resale. It's offered in very attractive colors (picture Volkswagen, but reliable). The 'zoom zoom' slogan makes me want to vomit - it's mindless schtick that means nothing to anyone trying to make a very expensive decision.
    The main reason I completely dismissed this car from my list: The visibility. The window sills are up by your neck (I'm 5'10") unless you crank the seat up almost all the way, and the thick A-pillars are massive, hiding a dangerous amount of view. The dash is also very high, and rear visibility is so terribly absent, I'm amazed the car is even street legal. Yes, there's a backup camera and despite being on a very small sliver in the dash, it's helpful. That said, you'll feel like you're wrapped up in a coffin. If you're claustrophobic, you'll panic in this car. The sunroof helps with a semblance of space, but the windshield is very short, and you won't see the extremities of the car from the inside. If you're getting out of a Subaru and into this car, you'll see what I'm talking about. Subarus have fantastic visibility - you're in a fishbowl.
    Mazda self-sabotages in their design, obviously listening to no one. They insist on an extra-long hood (30% more than needed for the engine), and they drive up the interior dimensions but jacking up the rear of the car & putting a symbolic sliver of glass that acts like a rear windshield. The rear view is further impeded by the large headrests in the back seat. The back seat is just ok - but for the size of the car, it should be better. You feel absolutely wrapped up in there. Back seat passengers sit very high, blocking the rear window even more. I turned on the rear wiper & saw maybe 25% of its journey back & forth. Mazda did the same with the CX-3, and just stood around wondering they weren't selling (ignoring the rear passengers with their knees up by their ears & the fact someone might want to go backwards in it). Rather than fixing the obvious design flaw of not being able to see out of the car, they passed it up to the CX-30GT Turbo, hoping some horsepower would fix it. The CX-5 has much better visibility & was best in the class of all I test drove in its category (including the Forester), but lately it's done the same as the Forester - it keeps getting fatter so they can play the "there's more space in our SUV" game. Each model will get fatter & fatter so they can introduce a smaller crossover to fill the gap in the market. You could put two 2009 CX-5's in the space of the current one (exaggeration of course, but you get it). Same goes for the Forester. Mazda need to have a long, terse chat with their design dept. Their quality, power, handling and interiors are, warts and all, still best in class - but they need to start test driving the competition.
    I'm choosing the Crosstrek Limited (0nly 182hp) over the CX-30 GT Turbo begrudgingly. There are a lot of things I don't like about the Crosstrek, but being able to see out, the far superior AWD of the Subaru & the fact the Mazda's engine sound annoyed me in the first 30 mins are huge factors. 93 octane? Gimme a break! My brother's WRX gets 270hp on 91 octane. People who get a turbo aren't in the business of maximizing fuel economy, and leaving the TCS in one god-mode is a huge raincloud on any fun you'll have with AWD.

    • @patrickriddell1453
      @patrickriddell1453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The offroad mode disables the traction

    • @BaconatorJames
      @BaconatorJames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@patrickriddell1453 Interesting. Salesman told me (after checking with someone else on the sales staff) that it can't be disabled, but if what you're saying is right, I'll make an edit to my post in case it matters.
      Do you know by chance if the offroad mode is like, for example, turning off all the TCS features in a Subaru, or is it like Subaru's X Mode?
      I disable both layers of TCS on my brother's WRX with a button just left of the steering wheel, and you can floor it in snow or mud, and it's just you & the AWD. Most fun I've had driving, through almost empty city streets during a snow storm, sideways the whole way, turbo chirping, etc. I wouldn't want to be denied a toned-down version of that if I'm paying so much for a CX-30GT.

    • @mkmcdowell4648
      @mkmcdowell4648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I just bought the 2021 Crosstrek Limited after driving both vehicles, and it was mostly due to visibility as well. I felt too closed in inside the Mazda. I also like the larger gas tank in the Crosstrek. As for engine noise, I thought the Mazda was a bit quieter, but it wasn't smoother. I liked the ride better in the Crosstrek. Now, if the Crosstrek was as quiet in the cabin as the Mazda is, it would be almost perfect. Looks are subjective too. I personally think the plastic cladding on the Crosstrek fits it well, but it looks cheap on the Mazda.

    • @martindubreuil7751
      @martindubreuil7751 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agree, this is my major gripe against the cx-30; visibility. Much better on the crosstreck…

    • @sprinklermadness
      @sprinklermadness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I choose Japanese made over Mexican made any day.

  • @renaudgiguere7496
    @renaudgiguere7496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think a nice way to approach the comparison is luxury vs practicality. I personally prefer the Crosstrek for the room and just the general inside design Cx-30 feels claustrophobic to me

    • @michaels999
      @michaels999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that’s what I was thinking, looks cramped

  • @Dragon220614
    @Dragon220614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is a good matchup. Both have pros and cons, I've always liked the crosstrek so that's what I'd swing for. Too bad there's no manual on the 2.5!

    • @meryuk
      @meryuk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, just not that continually vocal transmission

    • @ErokCherokee
      @ErokCherokee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Too bad there's no 2.5L Turbo for the Crosstrek!

  • @downhillupside
    @downhillupside 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    My choices genuinely came down to these two, and I really wanted to go with the Mazda for the fit and finish reasons. The main reasons I didn't go with the Mazda:
    - The interior space, rear legroom, and cargo space (1280L vs 1565L) with seats folded is SIGNIFICANTLY smaller in the CX-30. This was not emphasized enough in the video. Legroom is really tight in the back seat.
    - The AWD system on the Mazda could not overcome a roller test using power from a single rear wheel. (the crosstrek was able to pass this relatively easily)
    - Personal preference, but I find the plastic body cladding on the Mazda to be incredibly ugly. The rest of the car is gorgeous, but they've really messed up in that regard.
    - There are only 1 and a half inch hitch receivers available for the Mazda.

    • @monkeywkeys3916
      @monkeywkeys3916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Think that Subaru is a more capable platform across the board. Bet it outlasts the Mazda too.

    • @hrg361
      @hrg361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      For me, the deal breaker for CX-30 is that its gas tank is 12.7 gal vs 16.6 gal on the Crosstrek. Consider that people usually went to refill at around 2 gal, the CX-30 is almost at only 60% of the capacity of the Crosstrek.

    • @infidel9810
      @infidel9810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The reason why I chose the Crosstrek is simple, I like to hike, go camping and to be honest that Mazda in ten years will be junk and loose all its value! Subaru all day!

    • @okankilic5096
      @okankilic5096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@infidel9810 lmao you honestly believe that trash of a car brand Subaru will hold value? Most people don’t even know they name of the brand or the car, looks absolutely trash imo. Really ugly design

    • @infidel9810
      @infidel9810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@okankilic5096 I’m not sure on what planet you live in but ok!

  • @garrettw99
    @garrettw99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I haven’t seen a single comment talking about you buying the CX-30! I guess no one watched to the end...😑 congrats!

  • @baconpasta3670
    @baconpasta3670 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting comparison!

  • @mustasheolll2020
    @mustasheolll2020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    The Mazda is so nice, defiantly a win for me

    • @drink15
      @drink15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just pray you don’t get any big snow storms.

    • @bluedream6462
      @bluedream6462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@drink15 lol people drive fwd sedans with little problem in places that get big snowstorms

    • @drink15
      @drink15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bluedream6462 that’s true, that doesn’t mean fwd is a better option in the snow

    • @bluedream6462
      @bluedream6462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@drink15 Don't disagree there but you can get awd on the Mazda if you think you'll need it.

    • @drink15
      @drink15 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bluedream6462 there not really known for their awd but that is an option

  • @kenjones7719
    @kenjones7719 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Still shopping around, but off the top, the CX-30 looks like a good fir for me, childless and demanding a very comfortable and ergonomically sound driver's seat. But the first thing I would do is remove the back head rests.

  • @jonnyroca2874
    @jonnyroca2874 ปีที่แล้ว

    Again excellent video as always, what kind of gasoline does this XV use? Current of 87 RON or Extra of 91RON

  • @frankfrankenstein5933
    @frankfrankenstein5933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I’ll take the Crosstrek, thank you very much!

  • @englishgrammar9412
    @englishgrammar9412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "The hiking boot" lacks in luxury aspect but takes a lead safety ratings.

  • @CorkKNIFE
    @CorkKNIFE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The adaptive cruise control "follow" distance is easily adjustable from the steering wheel (two big buttons). 12:48 and it's not radar guided, it's stereo color camera based sytem.

  • @nathanneudecker6516
    @nathanneudecker6516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow, perfect timing! Stuck between these options for my pregnant fiancee and was literally just looking for a good side-by-side comparison last night and couldn't find anything worth watching. Thank you!!
    Think I will get the Crosstrek for its more spacious interior, and out of selfishness so I can throw some Methods +KO2's on it and do some softroading in my freetime :)

  • @jagpreetsingh83
    @jagpreetsingh83 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Much awaited video. Thanks a lot. What’s your take on buying a FWD CX30 (GS trim)? I am looking for value for money.

    • @TheTopher
      @TheTopher  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Highly recommend the fwd cx-30. Has a slightly bigger fuel tank, gets better mpg, is lighter, cheaper, and more mechanically simple.

    • @michaels999
      @michaels999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheTopher and I’m waiting for the 250hp turbo awd that takes premium gas, Lol

  • @spudskie3907
    @spudskie3907 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m looking to get a crossover to help transport my elderly parents as it seems it would be easier for them to get in and out.
    It seems you get better visibility with the Crosstrek. I know both cars have safety features, but I want to be able to see as much as possible.

    • @craigjohnchronicles2504
      @craigjohnchronicles2504 ปีที่แล้ว

      for elderly parents accessbility, get a CX-5, CV-R, or something in the segment above the compact utility vehicle (CUV). They're taller, and much easier to get in and out of either the CX-30 or the CrossTrek.

  • @Marco-ce8kr
    @Marco-ce8kr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Next CX-30 with the 2.5 Turbo is going to be great

    • @devondelgado1818
      @devondelgado1818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s eventually coming

    • @michaels999
      @michaels999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@devondelgado1818 it’s available now, got to drive it and see the difference

    • @BaconatorJames
      @BaconatorJames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I drove it couple of weeks ago. Check out my update above. I made the mistake of getting my hopes up. My perfect CUV/SUV is the SQ3 (Europe only, it's an Audi Q3 w 350hp). Trying to get something as close to that as possible.

    • @ClueSign
      @ClueSign 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tough/impossible to get your hands on one, nothing available in 100 mi radius of my home in greater NY area.

    • @michaels999
      @michaels999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ClueSign yeah I’m in Westchester county ny and nothing available here either

  • @balicat2
    @balicat2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks these are 2 that I am interested in. You've made points that have me lean towards Mazda (I've been a Mazda gal since 1980) not planning on off roading.

    • @sprinklermadness
      @sprinklermadness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One is made in Japan and the other in Mexico. Dont overlook that.

  • @twistedtea7046
    @twistedtea7046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got a 2021 Crosstrek its amazing

  • @probro6722
    @probro6722 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Subaru for AWD, for anything else, the Mazda.

    • @mbenton6
      @mbenton6 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mazda had awd

    • @probro6722
      @probro6722 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mbenton6 Yeah but tests show that Subaru's and Audi's AWD systems are superior to other manufacturers. Audi though, have other reliability issues, buying a new Audi is somewhat questionable in my opinion.

    • @Jenz123
      @Jenz123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mazda is is also AWD but not standard

    • @keving7940
      @keving7940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you check Savagegeeses review of the 3 you would be suprised how great Mazdas awd is in the 3 at least.

    • @mbenton6
      @mbenton6 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jenz123 turbos are all AWD

  • @frumpd63
    @frumpd63 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Killin' it with these dude. Buying a Rav Prime based on your rec.

  • @vipermoon_
    @vipermoon_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had heard the AWD version feels nicer, curious why you went with FWD?

  • @wp2861
    @wp2861 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man, awesome video! I really care about the safety technology onboard cars. It seems the Crosstrek lost track of the cars in front of you once you made a left turn. May I ask if you can share any insight on that? Thanks!

  • @gagd7351
    @gagd7351 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Love both cars. Can't buy any LOL

  • @imkriswithak1135
    @imkriswithak1135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d go with the crosstrek, but only with the 2.5 185 hp engine. Rear seat space is a must for young families.

  • @johnnytampocao7671
    @johnnytampocao7671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love the cx-30 it's beautiful and luxurious inside. Subaru for sue my second choice in this segment.👌

  • @KenDoit
    @KenDoit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the craftmanship for the mazda exterior and interior is the best specially the paint, had a chance to test drive both 2.5L version and I end up with crosstrek because it has more room, touch screen, ground clearance, ride/handling, and looks also Subaru is easier and cheaper to DIY maintenance specially oil changes.

  • @plightn
    @plightn ปีที่แล้ว

    This does make me excited for the Crosstrek refresh coming in 2024. If I don’t get the Mazda by then lol.

  • @lindsayxlou
    @lindsayxlou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a millennial buying a daily driver whose main purpose will be hauling around my dog, I test drove both of these. I didn't like the Mazda at all. I hated the stupid click wheel for the infotainment center, I really didn't care for the turbo lag, and I did not like how grandma the "premium interior" felt. I felt like I was driving my 63 year old mom's Cadillac. I went with the Crosstrek for the larger naturally aspirated engine, for a car that felt like it should have a dog in it, and for the larger interior space. If we go hiking somewhere then we'll be in a car that will tackle the terrain.

  • @K03sport
    @K03sport 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Both could use flat bottom steering wheels. Subaru really needs to take better measures to quell their road noise. Solid inner door panels, thicker, laminated glass, more sound absorbing materials under the carpet, etc., etc. They don't have to go full-Lexus, but they need to improve from where they are now...across their entire model range.

  • @leonickol3862
    @leonickol3862 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The CX-30 doesn't offer a trailer hitch option, was not designed for one and if an aftermarket hitch is installed will, probably, void the transmission warranty.

  • @lajya01
    @lajya01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Having the Crosstrek visibility on the CX30 would make everything perfect.

  • @tyvan5696
    @tyvan5696 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 2019 Limited crosstreck has a seven speed automatic paddle shifters and audio targeting

  • @dwu9369
    @dwu9369 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wished the CX-30 had the traditional halogen fog lights. I'm a sucker for 90's style halogen fog lights. One of the reasons I got the 2014 Mazda3 hatchback.

    • @NaijaBull
      @NaijaBull 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      what are you smoking?

    • @dwu9369
      @dwu9369 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NaijaBull Huh?

  • @tstoke7877
    @tstoke7877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    So first off, with the Subaru, you can turn off the beeping noise when cars enter your lane in the settings. You failed to do that. Second, you mentioned that it was following pretty closely with the adaptive cruise control and that Mazda's is much more conservative...but you had the following distance set to the smallest distance as denoted by the single line above the car emblem on the center display. Did you not wonder what those up and down arrows to the left of the cruise control speed knob do? You simply have to increase the following distance to your liking. This whole review was pretty skewed towards the Mazda mostly based on aesthetics when you didn't really give the Subaru its due diligence where it truly shines. Crosstrek all the way for the lifestyle and utility that it lends to.

    • @2004cyrus
      @2004cyrus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He bought the CX-30 he said at the end. Probably a little biased

    • @michaels999
      @michaels999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup you are correct

    • @oasisofficial2696
      @oasisofficial2696 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Although I agree, he gave each vehicle their moment to shine. That’s a minuscule thing for something many people don’t even use. This is a very well-rounded review.

    • @db8980
      @db8980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You can always spot an owner in the comments, they get a little defensive when reviews don't go the way they want. I don't own either car in this case, so without a chip in the game I can say the review looked the opposite of biased. He must have said a dozen times if you want X, get the Subaru, if you want Y, get the Mazda, they're both great for the class, etc etc. I get it if you're loyal to Subaru, and pointing out any Crosstrek advantages is legit, but this review just wasn't biased.

    • @mustafabader23
      @mustafabader23 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not to mention the The reliability of the Subaru. There’s no comparison.

  • @farhanhussain5937
    @farhanhussain5937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Deffoz the Mazda. Much better looks and the interior looks and feels alot more premium. Fantastic video as always definitely prefer the pov comparisons to just the ordinary comparisons.

  • @HarmonyWheeler
    @HarmonyWheeler ปีที่แล้ว

    Also, how would the CX-5 compare? I know the newer models have lower clearance, which I don't want, but I am looking at the 2019 used models as a possible purchase.

  • @neometalx9
    @neometalx9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If only Mazda was more spacious, I always felt the CX-5 is very cramped inside compared to others from the same category, like CR-V and Forester... Seems it isn't any different with this vs Crosstrek.

  • @crumbybooch1851
    @crumbybooch1851 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey man! love the vids!

  • @tomaszj.9608
    @tomaszj.9608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    You keep mentioning the “radar cruise control” on the Crosstrek. I believe it is iSight based, which is a dual camera system, not a radar system.

    • @amggaming3528
      @amggaming3528 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, that's correct.

    • @jeffghant4760
      @jeffghant4760 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can it be disabled?

    • @bradleyradziewicz14
      @bradleyradziewicz14 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeffghant4760 It can but why would you want to disable it?

    • @justanaturalcarguy4031
      @justanaturalcarguy4031 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bradleyradziewicz14 yeah

    • @justanaturalcarguy4031
      @justanaturalcarguy4031 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeffghant4760 Yes but why you asking, you might get into an accident if you turn it off

  • @Barbarosa1234
    @Barbarosa1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow I couldn’t disagree with you more. I test drove both and to me CrossTrek was far superior - such that I bought the 2021 CrossTrek Limited. I much preferred the drive, the handling, the acceleration (esp. in S-mode), the SPACIOUSNESS and visibility of the CrossTrek. I loved the larger info-tainment screen in the CrossTrek and disliked the tiny CX30 screen on the dash - I found it hard to see and more distracting since it’s so high, and made for terrible viewing of maps (ie using Apple Car Play) - the larger screen in the CrossTrek makes for much better map viewing / navigation. AND of course there’s the famous Subaru full time AWD - makes for much better driving, cornering and handling - especially in inclement weather and winter. The Mazda felt cramped and looking in its rear view mirror, I could barely see, was like looking down into a tunnel. Didn’t like the CX30’s interior as much compared to the CrossTrek. To each their own ;-) P.S. Don’t think you realize you have the option to TURN OFF the engine shut-off functionality in the CrossTrek - I think it’s a nice feature to save gas at stop lights, but you can disable it if you don’t like it.

    • @kristindenney6455
      @kristindenney6455 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've been looking at the Crosstrek and was wondering about fuel mileage. I commute 106 miles a day so I don't want to be filling up every 3 days. How is the fuel mileage? I have about 60% highway and 40% city driving commute. Thanks!

    • @Barbarosa1234
      @Barbarosa1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kristindenney6455 Fuel mileage seems normal. It’s rated 29mpg (2.5L engine) city/hwy combined. My gauge says 26mpg, but I’ve only had the car less than a month, so engine is still breaking in, and I’ve been doing mostly city driving. Also the Auto Stop-Start feature is supposed to save you gas while idling at stop lights etc. (which you can turn off if you don’t like it). I’ll see how it goes ;-)

    • @kristindenney6455
      @kristindenney6455 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Barbarosa1234 Thank you! I appreciate the information!

    • @michaels999
      @michaels999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m surprised he didn’t know that you can turn off the start stop

    • @kristindenney6455
      @kristindenney6455 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stcalico Thank you!

  • @miltonm.8500
    @miltonm.8500 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dam....both are great vehicles both cars even have spare tires, wow! As long it's not a Ford or Dodge either one would be good for me!

  • @almondity5278
    @almondity5278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    If I had to chose one of these, I’d get the Subaru.

    • @armandourso5602
      @armandourso5602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What why. CX30 is better. My only problem with subaru is they look like shit

    • @cat8308
      @cat8308 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@armandourso5602 the plastic rim around the tires are too wide on Mazda30

    • @armandourso5602
      @armandourso5602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cat8308 They are a bit wide but it still looks better than a subaru

    • @kellerdosman
      @kellerdosman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@armandourso5602 just looks but subaru one's better

    • @justanaturalcarguy4031
      @justanaturalcarguy4031 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@armandourso5602 im choosing the XV due to a better AWD train

  • @jaypatel7424
    @jaypatel7424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This review was like a game of cat & mouse :)