@@mrtulipeater agreed but Subaru manual transmissions don’t feel all that awesome either. Tons of rev hang and super vague clutch engagement point. Would still get the manual over a CVT.
@Car INTERIOR @Spartans FTW @TheTopher Someday gasoline may be expensive, ? carbon tax or other issue; @ six dollars a gallon, people might want 1.6 liter engine.
Having come from a Mini Cooper S and a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, the road noise comments some people make about the Crosstrek are wild to me. This thing is super quiet compared to both of those.
For some reason I see Subaru compared to Audi and Volvo all the time. Yes they also make wagons but they are luxury car makers and are much more expensive than Subaru.
I came from a Range Rover Evoque, in which I had nothing but trouble. Traded it in on a 2.5 l Crosstrek. I absolutely love it! I have had no issues or complaints what so ever. Everything works ALL the time. For half the price.
@@Montana270 how did they get him good? There’s more value in a utilitarian vehicle, than a performance vehicle because 9/10 you can’t even use all the performance on something like a wrx even being as slow as it is.
I'm assuming you weren't looking for a sporty vehicle but rather an awd vehicle around 27k in which case makes sense. If the former you got HOOOOOOSED. On a real note though holy shit I should go sell subarus cus I bet I could make a killing on crosstreks.
Bought my sport yesterday, love everything about it. I had no loud wind noise. Suspension was awsome, power was impressive. Ride like its on rails on curves in crappy weather. Best investment
Bob... do you mind if I ask what you paid? I am scheduled to pick up my Sport in about three days and I'm hoping I didn't get Scr&@wed. ;) What options did you get?
@@Itserikaale I've got about 1800 miles on it so far, and it's filthy! ;) So far I give it about an 8.5 out of 10... maybe a 9. I plan to do a First Impression/First wash video here in a week or two when life slows down and the temp gets above 40F. I really only have a couple minor gripes.... The USB outlets on the center console are hard to access for anyone with hands larger than a child's. My rear hatch seems to be a bit temperamental.. sometimes it closes easily, other times I've got to use a bit more force. Apple Carplay was a bit glitchy at first but in talking to my salesman, it sounds like it might be a phone issue and not a car issue, saying there is an update coming soon that should fix it. (It could also be user error... I'm really not that bright.) I'll tag you when I get the video posted. (Otherwise... super comfortable, great through some big Wyoming snow drifts, great fuel efficiency, easy in & out, Great stereo (I upgraded to the dealer installed Rockford Fosgate). The 2.5 liter Boxer is actually pretty peppy, and I've had no problems making highway speeds and passing at high speeds. (The Interstate Speed Limit in Wyoming is 80 in most places... no problems at all.) Overall, very happy.
@@timmyr345 ohh yeah definitely! I really would like to see more from this car.. I currently have a Kia Sorento 2003 which has been failing on me (but definitely has lasted).I’ve been in a constant battle between Subaru , Toyota & or Honda. By next year I plan to get a new car just cause right now I can’t. I’ve heard lots of great things about Subaru , so it’s tempting to not get one haha. I just wanna make sure it’s right car for me and that it really is a Great car because It would my official NEW FIRST car so no mistakes are allowed haha.
@@potatomuzik that’s like 52 mpg US. Not sure you should be complaining. You might want to go back to school to learn how to calculate fuel consumption.
My thing is...Why do so many vehicles over 30k lack rear console mounted HVAC vents? Also, this should have rear USB ports considering it is marketed to your buyers.
Could be because the car isn't that big overall so there isn't a need for rear vents. It's not like a suburban so the air or heat circulation can be kept with just the front vents
I’ve had this car since May and I love it. I never really notice the noise but I guess it has just never bothered me, and I drive with the windows open a lot anyway. While having a USB in the rear would be nice, there are 2 in the console which the cord can easily reach toward the back. I am generally just driving this by myself however, so not an issue.
I'm going to pick mine up on Saturday. It's been in transit for the last 2 weeks. The salesman called last night and said it came in. My wife and I can't wait to pick it up.
@@innzhao124 Sticker price plus dealer fee, tags and taxes. It was 32,800 out the door. They wouldn't budge off the sticker. But they weren't charging over the sticker like a lot of dealers are doing.
@@benjaminless3269 My wife drives ours on a 100 mile round trip commute everyday. Right now it's getting 33mpg. Hopefully it does better as it gets more miles one it.
My mom got a crosstrek premium, fresh off the truck, 3 miles, 2.0 and she tried passing two semis and it did… meh. Its had to emergency brake twice (montana idiots)! These little cars are awesome!
Just picked up my '22 Crosstrek Limited yesterday. It's pretty much the same vehicle as covered in this video, and the video really helped. The road noise situation isn't perfect, but it's a huge improvement over my Impreza. Thanks for posting this!
14:18, If you want power and a manual for precision driving, get that WRX there. It's the car for you. The Crosstrek is about different things, which is why it's not an Impreza WRX.
i bought a 2022 premium 2.0 manual. i like the car, i really do. it's more responsive with a manual with the smaller engine and the 2.0....... but really they should offer the car exactly the same as what i have WITH the 2.5..... a premium 2.5, 6 speed manual -no eyesight - mechanical key -no stop start i do not need nor do i want those things. i like the manual, a 2.5 would be nice option.
@@AntilleanConfederation my car has the 2.0 and it's not overly powerful but it's adequate. so far im very pleased with the car for the money, for 25K it's great in the snow..... offers plenty of room for 2 kids 2 adults and gets great gas mileage. if i want to drive something with a little more performance i wait until spring and i drive my 2003 bonneville SSEi 3800 supercharged that i did a few mods too.
@@andrewdonohue1853 that was just a suggestion if you wanted to match the power of the 2.5 out of your 2.0 bro. I’m not knocking on your car. In anything I’d still rather get the 2.0 manual without eye sight or any of those stupid safety crap they have on all the other shit. I hate eye sight on the Forster I have, and the lane assist makes the wheel stiff as hell.
highway noise is considerably higher than mazda3 and golf. But I guess Subaru is not famous for quietness and comfort, but rather practicality and usability.
People be like: “give me an STi version with 400hp, stiffer suspension, and a manual, and nicer interior...and more tech, then I’ll consider it.” Subaru: “well, then it’ll cost about +40k.” People: “wtf?! That’s BS! Why’d it go up in price?”
Honestly it's probably because when the STi first came out in the US, it was 30K, and the WRX was what... around 23 to 25?. Of course things get more expensive with time (16 years now) but the car hasn't changed at all when it comes to the drivetrain. I mean, this car, and let's be real, basically a lifted Impreza 5 door, for 31 grand. That's what we paid 4 years ago for our Forester XT. The interior is a lot better, but as TheTopher said, shows it's econobox roots (and that's fine) but is it literally 12 thousand dollars better than the equivalent from 15 years ago? It's not just Subaru either, all new cars are getting almost too expensive for your average income. And then "sports" or even "sporty" cars are nearly unreachable. I think Road & Track had a pretty good write up on this recently.
True. In the South African market Subaru just discontinued 2.5 and 2.0 XT in the Forester lineup. The forester is now 2.0 non turbo. People don't buy the powerful versions they only make noise.
Yes! If they made like a 400hp 2.4l (Twin?) Turbo that d be great. With big fat rotors underneath with 6 piston brembo’s. We’d have a RSQ3 killer at 2/3 of the price 😂
They really, REALLY need to step up their interior game. I'm thinking of switching from Subaru to Mazda/Toyota just because of the higher quality (and much better looking IMO) interior on their base models..
For the price, I would gladly get the bigger engine. That sounded perfectly balanced unlike many sub-compact SUVs which the engine always sounds like it is on it's last leg anytime you need to accelerate.
Love that this guy reviews Subaru. love my subaru! Instant subscribe when I listened to his videos. The video is so good I can see clearly into the cabin and feel like Im there. Plus his voice is so chill and soothing, can listen to multiple car reviews at a time. Hope is keeps up the Subaru reviews Ill prob be buying my next one in a few years. Maybe a Crosstrek Wilderness Edition? who knows?!
No you won't. That's the problem, and that's why manuals don't come in high trims. Because no one buys them, and just talk about buying them on social media.
@@carlmanu Great choice of cars, but duh. It's a BRZ. If you hadn't gotten it in manual we'd need to have a talk. Point is, non-enthusiast cars like the Crosstrek, who will buy it in manual? These crossovers are meant for moms who think having what's basically a lifted version of the hatchback (much like the CX-30 vs Mazda 3) somehow makes the car better/more practical. They don't give two craps about manual.
I'm glad Subaru finally listened and added more power to this car. I had a 2017 Impreza (just a non-lifted crosstrek or vice versa) and I hated the lack of power. Needless to say, I traded out for a 6speed WRX and I love it. I know Subaru is just catering to a popular market. However, if they included at least one beefier version, manual or not, of their cars, they would sell so well. If they made a turbocharged crosstrek and offered a manual or available CVT, it would sell like crazy
I have the Impreza and crosstrek. 2010 Impreza 2014 crosstrek. The Impreza has wayyyyy more power. Both being manual. Just gotta learn to shit and get while gassing of course.
I think this car cannot be compared to Mazda cx 3, nor with any other...the ability to go offroad, due to very good ground clearance and the S-AWD has no competition...
I just bought a '2021 this week and I can't wait to be back in a Subaru. This will be my 3rd one. I've had a Legacy WAGON (when the kiddos were little), a Forester (had the gasket problems, so I sold it ages ago), then moved to Toyota for a while. Reliable but so boring and can't handle any weather changes like a Subie can. I really appreciate all of the info you're sharing here.
Thanks for great vid! What were your songs when you demo’d the audio? Sounded great, I have a 2020 model, wish I waited for extra HP, but got a great deal.
I thought it was just because younger kids today aren't using manual transmissions much anymore, but another big reason behind it is apparently because of fuel economy requirements put on manufacturers. It used to be manual beat out automatics for fuel econ, but now it is the reverse. If you look at the Crosstrek, the auto gets about 4-5 more MPG on average than the manual.
I don't know where you live or how much you owe, I was able to sell mine at one of those large used car dealerships for 19.6k. I did only have 34,000 miles however.
So why are you here? You like watching videos of vehicles with cvt's that you know you don't like. But yet still watched a video about a vehicle with a cvt. If you don't like it move on. Watch videos of cars you do like.
@Arthur Feitosa If you spend under 2k on your first car, you’re an idiot. 3k-6k for a car should serve you ok, make sure it’s either a Honda or Toyota.
Thanks for the review! My folks are getting on in age and finding their 2015 Outback Limited to be too big, so now they're seriously considering this exact car and trim. Thanks!
@@RaceGasSmellsGood I like it. But it is a learning curve to learn all the electronic stuff especially STARLINK. Very easy to drive and size is just right. Hate the orange trim inside hah
Why the CVT work very well and you get great gas mileage. Most of the time it behaves like an 8 speed transmission. I came from a GTI and have no issues.
Toyota has produced a CVT that doesn't suck. Its a hybrid CVT that has a traditional automatic 1st gear for launching, which is where the CVTs struggle the hardest. CVTs do fine from 30mph, people just think they suck so bad because from a stop sign they are lethargic as the CVT can't get the gearing low enough.
Unfortunately, CVTs are cheaper to make, more fuel efficient, weight less and have smoother operations (as long as you’re not winding them) than any torque converter automatic.
@@carlmanu Yeah, which is fine as long as its a pure economy vehicle. Their low torque handling ability and disconnected rubber band feeling means you can never really tell what exactly is going on with the vehicle. And while you are right that CVTs are cheaper to make, they aren't cheaper to maintain. They typically have more frequent service intervals and lower average lifespans, especially Nissan CVTs. Most enthusiasts would be happier with a DCT if it has to be automatic, and they are also very lightweight. Only problem DCTs have is they aren't good in heavy stop and go traffic, where a torque converter is better.
The manufacturers go with them to get their fleet MPG higher due to State and Federal regulations. Hopefully DCT transmissions and 8 and 10 speed automatics will become more prevalent and do better with MPG.
If this came in a manual it would be in my driveway right now. I currently drive a 5 speed Kia Soul. My son took his driving test in the Soul (the examiner was surprised to get in a car with a manual transmission), passed his first attempt. He now drives a 2016 5-speed Crosstrek. My car has over 110K miles on it and I’d love to replace it with something with AWD and manual transmission but the 2.0L engine is too anemic and the CVT is too boring. I’m not going to make Home Depot runs in an STI lol. Come on, Subaru, help a brother out!
For $500-$600 you can get an entire Undercoating/Rust Proofing job that will eliminate road noise immensely. Don't go to a cheap shop, get it done from a reliable source.
I’ve been following your videos for a couple of years and I never realized until this video that you’re in MI! It was cool to see the car tested on roads I’m familiar with! I tested the old engine Crosstrek a couple years ago with the 2.0 and the new 2.5 last week. Big difference. Your video helped me to make up my mind on the Crosstrek Limited! Thank you! I’m sad to say goodbye to my 2003 Vibe with 237k miles, but totally excited now for a new adventure!
@@The_Benjamins generally speaking it doesn’t deliver enough power in low traction situations. It doesn’t have a true low range that is necessary to get your vehicle un-stuck. But from what I have heard Subaru Xmode is more than capable for most situations. And the gas mileage benefit from the CVT is definitely a plus.
@TheTopher : What do you think of the power relative to the manual 2.0L Crosstrek you drove before? Was the manual efficient enough to make them comparable in acceleration?
No, a manual deceives you into thinking you've got more power than you do. The 2.0 manual is no different than the 2.0 automatic performance wise. With the 2.5 you're going to gain about 1.2 - 1.3 seconds just going 0 - 60.
The transmission is really the only thing that gives me pause. Hope the small screen is still an option in the 2024 model. The funny part is that the fact that it's not too quiet adds to the fun of it, like you can actually hear the engine winding up!
I want to know what the RPMs are at 70 miles per hour in this versus the Crosstrek 2.0 CVT versus the manual. Also would you buy the 2.5 or would you buy the two liter with a manual and save $5,000? The problem with spending 30 grand on a Crosstrek is that you can buy the Outback for $28.5 in the premium model which gives you a lot more room and just more car for the money.
For having the larger engine, it seems to work rather hard relative to acceleration. 3k RPM for very leisurely acceleration? Hmm. Watch Hyundai and Kia videos that have their own unique CVT. Their engines rev a lot lower with quicker acceleration. The engines don't seem as taxed.
My 2021 Crosstrek Limited is much quieter than the 2016 Crosstrek Sport I had. Was not even going to buy a new one but after driving, it was like night and day. Also you tested on a wet day which always makes the car louder.
I've watched a lot of videos on the Crosstrek and I'm planning on picking one up in about 3 weeks. One thing I did do on a previous test drive was use a sound level app to get a feel or cabin noise to see how this faired versus my current car. Whenever I see a video talking about cabin noise I always wish they actually measured it and displayed the results. It's one of my pet peeves of my current daily driver and I'm hoping it doesn't become that way in my new car.
@@danielfair4675 That’s engine noise, not road noise. Undercoating won’t help. I drove the 2.5 and it is REALLY noisy on even mild acceleration. You can hear it clearly in the video. Test drive the Crosstrek and then drive the Mazda CX-30. This will give you a clear picture of how unrefined the Crosstrek is… and they cost about the same. Subaru better watch their back … Oh, and I drive a 2014 Forester XLT turbo so I’m not a Suby-hater.
@@richardnugent7035 I own a '21 2.5 Limited. You want motor noise, come drive my GS Corvette or 4 Runner Limted w/ Supercharger. This Subie is as quiet as a baby sleeping to me.
I've had a Crosstrek now for 2 years, it was my second car because my first one was a piece of shit cheap two-wheel drive shitstain. You can see why I went for Subaru as my 2nd car two years after my first ha ha. I love it and honestly, can't get another car other than a Crosstrek for a while. But DAMN DUDE who tf slams on the gas above 3000 RPM? Btw.. funny enough, speaking of.. 11:07 that's my former car on the left
It's a great little car yet for improvements they need the following: More up to date gauges, e brake and sounding isolation materials and rear air vents with USB C connectors. Oh and more lumbar. Others wise great package.
Superb review. One of my daughters has the 21 Sport and I like it so much that a Limited will soon come my way. It seems like an easy reasonable balanced car. For long trips I may get a seat cushion and lumbar pad, as I’m used to a comfortable GM larger car ride,
The music choice to hear the Harmon Kardon was mealy, like eating a bowl of raw oatmeal cookie dough through your ears. Maybe some actual reference sounds. Vocals mids- guitars piano- bass etc. Even some chamber music, cellos violins etc... whatever highlights the imaging capabilities. Your choice of music was damp, almost moist. Absolutely zero focus or clarity. Sounds like you gained some weight between your ears.
I don't really understand the point of putting an audio test in a car review anyway because there are so many variables between the microphone(s) used to record it, the device used to listen and its speakers or headphones, etc. that you can't really make any meaningful comparison. Sure the car might sound a certain way but record it with a different mic, it'll sound different. Upload it to TH-cam, it gets compressed a bit. Listen on a phone speaker and it'll sound different. Listen on a pair of hi-fi speakers, it'll sound different. Listen with a pair of closed-back headphones, it'll sound different.
@David Anthony I've had my bike license for 38 yrs now, and I will agree on that front. But he was talking about an automatic transmission rental Crosstrek, and not the new 2.5 because they just came out, and sounds like his rental was quite awhile ago. So probably not all that fun, imo.
@@jakethepitador2558 I have the 2.0 with the cvt and I think it’s fun. It feels robust, the awd system is phenomenal, the car is light and tossable with very good suspension dampening. This is also by far my slowest ever car, I also drive a model y long range with boost (around 4.0 seconds to 60) and I wouldn’t call that significantly funner. Speed does not make or break how fun a car is imo, the overall package does
Absolutely terrible alloys. Plus NEVER put the paddle down 100% as it is not going to give you nothing else but the noise! Do max 40-60% and you will see the big difference!
I loved my 2016 CrossTrek Premium, except the 2.0 boxer, of course. I have a 2019 Outback Touring 3.6R now, and I'd be hard pressed to let it go for a 2.5L CrossTrek. Id have to go up to a loaded Ascent from where I am.
MSRP: From $27,995
Horsepower: 182 hp
MPG: 27 city / 34 highway
Towing capacity: 1,500 lbs
Tire size: P225/55R18
Curb weight: 3,298 lbs
Fuel tank capacity: 16.6 gal
In future videos can u please it would be nice if you like honk the horn 😆sometimes I be wanting to know what the horn sounds like
Do you think you could review the Subaru Outback Onyx Edition for us? Been looking into that one and seems like a really great mid size SUV.
@Sarah Neal the website has the sport at $26.5k and the limited at $28k. Seems like you got a fair price in the end (?)
No stick shift with that setup = lame.
@@mrtulipeater agreed but Subaru manual transmissions don’t feel all that awesome either. Tons of rev hang and super vague clutch engagement point. Would still get the manual over a CVT.
2.5L should be base engine, turbo should be on sport/limited models.
2.5t would be probably 300 hp :)
@Car INTERIOR
@Spartans FTW
@TheTopher
Someday gasoline may be expensive, ? carbon tax or other issue; @ six dollars a gallon, people might want 1.6 liter engine.
@@sesh3508 A 2.4L turbo on the newer Outbacks puts out 260hp.
@@ozzierabbit587 oh gotcha
In Europe we can get only 1.6 version with 0-100km/h in 14 sec. Because of stupid EU regulations on CO2 emissions. :(
Having come from a Mini Cooper S and a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, the road noise comments some people make about the Crosstrek are wild to me. This thing is super quiet compared to both of those.
Thank you for this.
I too had a mini and a wrangler 😂 the road noise from those was awful!
For some reason I see Subaru compared to Audi and Volvo all the time. Yes they also make wagons but they are luxury car makers and are much more expensive than Subaru.
Drive a Mitsubishi Mirage if you ever really want to have a reason to complain about road noise lol
The folks that complain are just reposting what they've read, 95% of them have never drove one.
I love this Crosstrek and it's very practical. The Awd and the ground clearance, I'm sold.
I came from a Range Rover Evoque, in which I had nothing but trouble. Traded it in on a 2.5 l Crosstrek. I absolutely love it! I have had no issues or complaints what so ever. Everything works ALL the time. For half the price.
Love my Crosstrek. Have a 2021 Limited. What I love most about it is it feels capable on just about any terrain.
Physical controls for climate, physical controls for audio. Thank God.
This review was immensely helpful. Straightforward and useful. I'm upgrading from a base 19 Impreza... very excited for that 2.5
Waves
I went to a dealership to look at a 2017 WRX Premium and walked out with a 2021 Crosstrek Premium...
Wow they got u good
I could sell this guy anything; man you are easy
@@Montana270 how did they get him good? There’s more value in a utilitarian vehicle, than a performance vehicle because 9/10 you can’t even use all the performance on something like a wrx even being as slow as it is.
@@BeanieNinjay0 Walking out with a crosstreck when going in to get a wrx is a huge change. They must have been great salesman. That's all...
I'm assuming you weren't looking for a sporty vehicle but rather an awd vehicle around 27k in which case makes sense. If the former you got HOOOOOOSED. On a real note though holy shit I should go sell subarus cus I bet I could make a killing on crosstreks.
Bought my sport yesterday, love everything about it. I had no loud wind noise. Suspension was awsome, power was impressive. Ride like its on rails on curves in crappy weather. Best investment
Bob... do you mind if I ask what you paid? I am scheduled to pick up my Sport in about three days and I'm hoping I didn't get Scr&@wed. ;) What options did you get?
@@timmyr345 hello! How is the car so far ?
@@Itserikaale I've got about 1800 miles on it so far, and it's filthy! ;) So far I give it about an 8.5 out of 10... maybe a 9. I plan to do a First Impression/First wash video here in a week or two when life slows down and the temp gets above 40F. I really only have a couple minor gripes.... The USB outlets on the center console are hard to access for anyone with hands larger than a child's. My rear hatch seems to be a bit temperamental.. sometimes it closes easily, other times I've got to use a bit more force. Apple Carplay was a bit glitchy at first but in talking to my salesman, it sounds like it might be a phone issue and not a car issue, saying there is an update coming soon that should fix it. (It could also be user error... I'm really not that bright.) I'll tag you when I get the video posted. (Otherwise... super comfortable, great through some big Wyoming snow drifts, great fuel efficiency, easy in & out, Great stereo (I upgraded to the dealer installed Rockford Fosgate). The 2.5 liter Boxer is actually pretty peppy, and I've had no problems making highway speeds and passing at high speeds. (The Interstate Speed Limit in Wyoming is 80 in most places... no problems at all.) Overall, very happy.
@@timmyr345 ohh yeah definitely! I really would like to see more from this car.. I currently have a Kia Sorento 2003 which has been failing on me (but definitely has lasted).I’ve been in a constant battle between Subaru , Toyota & or Honda. By next year I plan to get a new car just cause right now I can’t. I’ve heard lots of great things about Subaru , so it’s tempting to not get one haha. I just wanna make sure it’s right car for me and that it really is a Great car because It would my official NEW FIRST car so no mistakes are allowed haha.
I have the Sport version as well. I prefer it over the limited. I’m getting 38 mpg so far on this tank of gas. How about you?
Suburu makes some quality cars, and they last! I have two friends who have owned Suburu, and I've never heard a bad word!
I have a 2010 forester and it’s still sserving me very well. But fuel consumption is very bad 4.5L/100km
Yessir. Love the AWD even in a basic Impreza it’s very easy to drive in snow
if you want to hear bad words, go on facebook and join any groups dedicated to WRX/STI's lol
@@jamesnewcomb9834 are WRX/STI's kind of the exception rather than the rule? I'm thinking about getting a Crosstrek but I do worry about reliability
@@potatomuzik that’s like 52 mpg US. Not sure you should be complaining. You might want to go back to school to learn how to calculate fuel consumption.
They need to bring the manual to the 2.5L. It would be my next car if that was the case.
My wife just got this car. I'd rather drive it than my Impreza for sure.
What year Impreza do you own? I got the 2011 2.5i Hatch?
Imprezas can be speced to be one of the most exciting cars or one of the most boring cars lol
My thing is...Why do so many vehicles over 30k lack rear console mounted HVAC vents? Also, this should have rear USB ports considering it is marketed to your buyers.
Could be because the car isn't that big overall so there isn't a need for rear vents. It's not like a suburban so the air or heat circulation can be kept with just the front vents
Subaru radios play something other than NPR?
That’s the base model
Eww NPR
My outback only plays heavy metal and gangster rap.
Mine plays Volbeat.
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*My limited is "In Transit" now.*
Can't wait to get it!
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Yeah we love a manual with no horse power 🙄🤣
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I drive a 5-speed base jetta... what you say is true 😞
I love the look and concept of this car but the HP on the manual... stuuuuuuupid. I guess I could lift a WRX lmao
I’ve had this car since May and I love it. I never really notice the noise but I guess it has just never bothered me, and I drive with the windows open a lot anyway. While having a USB in the rear would be nice, there are 2 in the console which the cord can easily reach toward the back. I am generally just driving this by myself however, so not an issue.
I'm going to pick mine up on Saturday. It's been in transit for the last 2 weeks. The salesman called last night and said it came in. My wife and I can't wait to pick it up.
@@guardrail2897 whats the OTD price？I was thinking about getting one but heard the market is bad for buyer
@@innzhao124 Sticker price plus dealer fee, tags and taxes. It was 32,800 out the door. They wouldn't budge off the sticker. But they weren't charging over the sticker like a lot of dealers are doing.
@@guardrail2897thanks so much, guess I will wait for a while to see whether the market will get better or not
@@benjaminless3269 My wife drives ours on a 100 mile round trip commute everyday. Right now it's getting 33mpg. Hopefully it does better as it gets more miles one it.
My mom got a crosstrek premium, fresh off the truck, 3 miles, 2.0 and she tried passing two semis and it did… meh. Its had to emergency brake twice (montana idiots)! These little cars are awesome!
Just picked up my '22 Crosstrek Limited yesterday. It's pretty much the same vehicle as covered in this video, and the video really helped. The road noise situation isn't perfect, but it's a huge improvement over my Impreza. Thanks for posting this!
14:18, If you want power and a manual for precision driving, get that WRX there. It's the car for you. The Crosstrek is about different things, which is why it's not an Impreza WRX.
i bought a 2022 premium 2.0 manual. i like the car, i really do. it's more responsive with a manual with the smaller engine and the 2.0....... but really they should offer the car exactly the same as what i have WITH the 2.5..... a premium 2.5, 6 speed manual
-no eyesight
- mechanical key
-no stop start
i do not need nor do i want those things. i like the manual, a 2.5 would be nice option.
I agree completely bro. If you want get an access port and get a e85 tune. Or 93 octane tune. Should give you the power from the 2.5
@@AntilleanConfederation my car has the 2.0 and it's not overly powerful but it's adequate. so far im very pleased with the car for the money, for 25K it's great in the snow..... offers plenty of room for 2 kids 2 adults and gets great gas mileage.
if i want to drive something with a little more performance i wait until spring and i drive my 2003 bonneville SSEi 3800 supercharged that i did a few mods too.
@@andrewdonohue1853 that was just a suggestion if you wanted to match the power of the 2.5 out of your 2.0 bro. I’m not knocking on your car. In anything I’d still rather get the 2.0 manual without eye sight or any of those stupid safety crap they have on all the other shit. I hate eye sight on the Forster I have, and the lane assist makes the wheel stiff as hell.
highway noise is considerably higher than mazda3 and golf. But I guess Subaru is not famous for quietness and comfort, but rather practicality and usability.
Yeap it’s pretty loud, i hate it
People be like: “give me an STi version with 400hp, stiffer suspension, and a manual, and nicer interior...and more tech, then I’ll consider it.”
Subaru: “well, then it’ll cost about +40k.”
People: “wtf?! That’s BS! Why’d it go up in price?”
Honestly it's probably because when the STi first came out in the US, it was 30K, and the WRX was what... around 23 to 25?. Of course things get more expensive with time (16 years now) but the car hasn't changed at all when it comes to the drivetrain. I mean, this car, and let's be real, basically a lifted Impreza 5 door, for 31 grand. That's what we paid 4 years ago for our Forester XT. The interior is a lot better, but as TheTopher said, shows it's econobox roots (and that's fine) but is it literally 12 thousand dollars better than the equivalent from 15 years ago? It's not just Subaru either, all new cars are getting almost too expensive for your average income. And then "sports" or even "sporty" cars are nearly unreachable. I think Road & Track had a pretty good write up on this recently.
As long as it's still in the same range as the wrx version of the STI I'm down.
@@LucefieD I wish I could upvote this comment a hundred times. I just want a new WRX/STI hatch.
True. In the South African market Subaru just discontinued 2.5 and 2.0 XT in the Forester lineup. The forester is now 2.0 non turbo. People don't buy the powerful versions they only make noise.
@@LucefieD just got a crosstrek the alloy had a Sti for 33,000 sticker price
A CrossTrek STi w/ turbo and manual transmission would’ve sold record numbers!
Yes! If they made like a 400hp 2.4l (Twin?) Turbo that d be great.
With big fat rotors underneath with 6 piston brembo’s. We’d have a RSQ3 killer at 2/3 of the price 😂
@@claudyfocan731 are you dumb? Twin turbo ? Lmaooo some people are so arrogant. All it needs is the wrx 2.4 single turbo and manual transmission
Dont buy tge CVT buy 2.0L with 6mt. Of you want 2.5 get used Forester 2.5i with 6mt from 2013-2017 generation.
They really, REALLY need to step up their interior game. I'm thinking of switching from Subaru to Mazda/Toyota just because of the higher quality (and much better looking IMO) interior on their base models..
Damn you must be very picky.
Me thinking the 2015 wrx interior is nice
This was a great review, thank you! Just made the decision to buy the khaki grey 2021 crosstrek. So excited!
For the price, I would gladly get the bigger engine. That sounded perfectly balanced unlike many sub-compact SUVs which the engine always sounds like it is on it's last leg anytime you need to accelerate.
Love when you drive when it's cloudy with snow on the ground, or when it's raining
I recently purchased this exact model and colour. Would definitely recommend if you're on the fence.
Same, just put on Ironman lift and BFGoodRich Ko2's looks great
@@HouseCuber15😂😂😂
Love that this guy reviews Subaru. love my subaru! Instant subscribe when I listened to his videos. The video is so good I can see clearly into the cabin and feel like Im there. Plus his voice is so chill and soothing, can listen to multiple car reviews at a time. Hope is keeps up the Subaru reviews Ill prob be buying my next one in a few years. Maybe a Crosstrek Wilderness Edition? who knows?!
update...I am getting my forester wilderness tomorrow!
I’ll take the “Sport” with a manual. Oh wait.... 🤦. You can’t get the “Sport” with a manual. Amazing marketing department.
Everyone knows sports means colored stitching now
Maybe manuals should actually sell
No you won't. That's the problem, and that's why manuals don't come in high trims. Because no one buys them, and just talk about buying them on social media.
@@persiashahdi5215 Speak for yourself. I own a Subaru BRZ manual and I’m leasing a Mazda 3 hatchback manual both of them on their highest trims.
@@carlmanu Great choice of cars, but duh. It's a BRZ. If you hadn't gotten it in manual we'd need to have a talk. Point is, non-enthusiast cars like the Crosstrek, who will buy it in manual? These crossovers are meant for moms who think having what's basically a lifted version of the hatchback (much like the CX-30 vs Mazda 3) somehow makes the car better/more practical. They don't give two craps about manual.
I'm glad Subaru finally listened and added more power to this car. I had a 2017 Impreza (just a non-lifted crosstrek or vice versa) and I hated the lack of power. Needless to say, I traded out for a 6speed WRX and I love it. I know Subaru is just catering to a popular market. However, if they included at least one beefier version, manual or not, of their cars, they would sell so well. If they made a turbocharged crosstrek and offered a manual or available CVT, it would sell like crazy
I have the Impreza and crosstrek. 2010 Impreza 2014 crosstrek. The Impreza has wayyyyy more power. Both being manual. Just gotta learn to shit and get while gassing of course.
Manual and the 2.5 at least. Turbo CVT would be kinda boring and not fun.
I think this car cannot be compared to Mazda cx 3, nor with any other...the ability to go offroad, due to very good ground clearance and the S-AWD has no competition...
I just bought a '2021 this week and I can't wait to be back in a Subaru. This will be my 3rd one. I've had a Legacy WAGON (when the kiddos were little), a Forester (had the gasket problems, so I sold it ages ago), then moved to Toyota for a while. Reliable but so boring and can't handle any weather changes like a Subie can. I really appreciate all of the info you're sharing here.
Thanks for great vid! What were your songs when you demo’d the audio? Sounded great, I have a 2020 model, wish I waited for extra HP, but got a great deal.
In the sound settings for the speakers to put the bass all the way up, and then put the treble all the way up and it will be even better 10:38
Stupid Subaru. Why not put the 2.5 with the manual transmission. Very poor decision making at Subaru Canada.
I thought it was just because younger kids today aren't using manual transmissions much anymore, but another big reason behind it is apparently because of fuel economy requirements put on manufacturers. It used to be manual beat out automatics for fuel econ, but now it is the reverse. If you look at the Crosstrek, the auto gets about 4-5 more MPG on average than the manual.
I have a 2017 I'm still financing, love the car, but now with a 2.5 FINALLY I think in about 3 years we will have 2, the wife can have my old one 🤣
I don't know where you live or how much you owe, I was able to sell mine at one of those large used car dealerships for 19.6k. I did only have 34,000 miles however.
@@billyplourde3402 I have 82k on mine. I still owe 11k
@@billyplourde3402 oh , NYC btw..my car lives in Manhattan...the worst..lol
As always, great video! Nice car too. Thanks for the review.
A CVT is a deal breaker no matter what brand and what the rest of the configuration is.
Like Nissan, Subaru seems dead-set on keeping their CVT. An improvement of even 1 mpg is more meaningful to them than to many of us.
so even a polaris or canam?
So why are you here? You like watching videos of vehicles with cvt's that you know you don't like. But yet still watched a video about a vehicle with a cvt. If you don't like it move on. Watch videos of cars you do like.
@@floppinfishstfu dude. I own a forester and I agree the cvt is ass. My Tacoma feels better accelerated.
Glad you did a sound test, most people don't
Yep, sounds just like the speakers on my iPad
Great review. Thank you for helping confirm my decision to purchase.
LOVE this car. Loved it back when it came out. Considering it as my first car.
I’m sure it will continue to serve you well in the years to come
@Arthur Feitosa Guess I’m dumb. Woe is me.
@Arthur Feitosa If you spend under 2k on your first car, you’re an idiot. 3k-6k for a car should serve you ok, make sure it’s either a Honda or Toyota.
@Arthur Feitosa why would you want a car that looks ugly and brakes down all the time? Just sayin
@@mustasheolll2020 Then why are you here?
most subaru drivers don't care about the look, it's their AWD and boxer engine matter, everything else is excessive
Best compact SUV in this segment
Thanks for the review! My folks are getting on in age and finding their 2015 Outback Limited to be too big, so now they're seriously considering this exact car and trim. Thanks!
I had intentions of buying Forrester but also wanted something smaller so bought Crosstrek limited
@@catnip4587 How are you liking it? My folks LOVE their 2021 Crosstrek!
@@RaceGasSmellsGood I like it. But it is a learning curve to learn all the electronic stuff especially STARLINK. Very easy to drive and size is just right. Hate the orange trim inside hah
Subaru should get rid off the CVT and go with a regular transmission.
Why the CVT work very well and you get great gas mileage. Most of the time it behaves like an 8 speed transmission. I came from a GTI and have no issues.
The obsession with CVTs from certain brands like Subaru, Honda, Nissan, etc has to stop. This thing sounds dreadful.
Toyota has produced a CVT that doesn't suck. Its a hybrid CVT that has a traditional automatic 1st gear for launching, which is where the CVTs struggle the hardest. CVTs do fine from 30mph, people just think they suck so bad because from a stop sign they are lethargic as the CVT can't get the gearing low enough.
Unfortunately, CVTs are cheaper to make, more fuel efficient, weight less and have smoother operations (as long as you’re not winding them) than any torque converter automatic.
@@carlmanu Yeah, which is fine as long as its a pure economy vehicle. Their low torque handling ability and disconnected rubber band feeling means you can never really tell what exactly is going on with the vehicle. And while you are right that CVTs are cheaper to make, they aren't cheaper to maintain. They typically have more frequent service intervals and lower average lifespans, especially Nissan CVTs. Most enthusiasts would be happier with a DCT if it has to be automatic, and they are also very lightweight. Only problem DCTs have is they aren't good in heavy stop and go traffic, where a torque converter is better.
The manufacturers go with them to get their fleet MPG higher due to State and Federal regulations. Hopefully DCT transmissions and 8 and 10 speed automatics will become more prevalent and do better with MPG.
CVT is safer to drive on icey road, no sudden change on wheels. Of all manufacturers above, Subaru has the most reason to choose CVT.
I wonder how Hobo Johnson influenced the sales of these? 🤣
They should’ve had a HJ signature edition like the old LL Bean Outback or Forrester😂. The song would be preloaded!
If this came in a manual it would be in my driveway right now. I currently drive a 5 speed Kia Soul. My son took his driving test in the Soul (the examiner was surprised to get in a car with a manual transmission), passed his first attempt. He now drives a 2016 5-speed Crosstrek.
My car has over 110K miles on it and I’d love to replace it with something with AWD and manual transmission but the 2.0L engine is too anemic and the CVT is too boring. I’m not going to make Home Depot runs in an STI lol.
Come on, Subaru, help a brother out!
Ahhh. Dang it. I wish it was quieter on highway. Thanks for covering the noise of the road. That’s an important factor to me, but I still want it.
For $500-$600 you can get an entire Undercoating/Rust Proofing job that will eliminate road noise immensely.
Don't go to a cheap shop, get it done from a reliable source.
First time watching your page. Your mics are killer. Can't wait to get this car.
TOPHER I NEED A REVIEW OF THE MAZDA 3 TURBO. THANKS!
Me tooo
Are you happy now?
@@alh06 yes took forever
I’ve been following your videos for a couple of years and I never realized until this video that you’re in MI! It was cool to see the car tested on roads I’m familiar with! I tested the old engine Crosstrek a couple years ago with the 2.0 and the new 2.5 last week. Big difference. Your video helped me to make up my mind on the Crosstrek Limited! Thank you! I’m sad to say goodbye to my 2003 Vibe with 237k miles, but totally excited now for a new adventure!
Oh man, those old Vibes are awesome. You’ll enjoy the Crosstrek, congrats!
@@TheTopher Thank you!!!
@@TheTopheris it good for a new teen driver ?
Would be more attractive if Subaru simply offered a decent non-CVT.
Whats wroung with CVT?
@@The_Benjamins generally speaking it doesn’t deliver enough power in low traction situations. It doesn’t have a true low range that is necessary to get your vehicle un-stuck. But from what I have heard Subaru Xmode is more than capable for most situations. And the gas mileage benefit from the CVT is definitely a plus.
They suck @@The_Benjamins 😂
I'm cross shopping manual transmission vehicles right now.
@@JoshuaTootell they are not that bad. I do agree a manual is a lot more fun and engaging. but CVTs are nice in there own ways.
@@The_Benjamins nothing is wrong with it. I hate CVT transmissions and bought one. Subaru makes the best one.
Am I the only one who think these are ugly. They are so popular but unpopular opinion, I think these are hideous 😭😭
I agree, rear USB ports would be nice. However, the two additional USB ports in the center console, with wire pass-thru make it a non-issue.
I’m 17 and going to buy one this fall
Just picked up a 21 Limited. Great Review dead on ! Thank you !
@TheTopher : What do you think of the power relative to the manual 2.0L Crosstrek you drove before? Was the manual efficient enough to make them comparable in acceleration?
Great question! I'd love to know this as well.
No, a manual deceives you into thinking you've got more power than you do. The 2.0 manual is no different than the 2.0 automatic performance wise. With the 2.5 you're going to gain about 1.2 - 1.3 seconds just going 0 - 60.
The transmission is really the only thing that gives me pause. Hope the small screen is still an option in the 2024 model. The funny part is that the fact that it's not too quiet adds to the fun of it, like you can actually hear the engine winding up!
I want to know what the RPMs are at 70 miles per hour in this versus the Crosstrek 2.0 CVT versus the manual. Also would you buy the 2.5 or would you buy the two liter with a manual and save $5,000? The problem with spending 30 grand on a Crosstrek is that you can buy the Outback for $28.5 in the premium model which gives you a lot more room and just more car for the money.
Less than 2,000 rpm @ 70 mph. You won't hit 2k rpm's till you're at about 77-78 mph.
For having the larger engine, it seems to work rather hard relative to acceleration. 3k RPM for very leisurely acceleration? Hmm. Watch Hyundai and Kia videos that have their own unique CVT. Their engines rev a lot lower with quicker acceleration. The engines don't seem as taxed.
My 2021 Crosstrek Limited is much quieter than the 2016 Crosstrek Sport I had. Was not even going to buy a new one but after driving, it was like night and day. Also you tested on a wet day which always makes the car louder.
have an order on a canadian outdoor spec, disappointed that subaru usa doesnt give you the heated steering wheel on any trim or the front cam.
this...as an american I would feel I'm getting ripped of buying one of these.
I have a heated steering wheel that was standard equipment on my Canadian 2021 Crosstrek Limited.
Bring back STi SUVs please Subaru :(
Wait for 43,000 and your starter goes like mine.. garbage
I've watched a lot of videos on the Crosstrek and I'm planning on picking one up in about 3 weeks. One thing I did do on a previous test drive was use a sound level app to get a feel or cabin noise to see how this faired versus my current car. Whenever I see a video talking about cabin noise I always wish they actually measured it and displayed the results. It's one of my pet peeves of my current daily driver and I'm hoping it doesn't become that way in my new car.
Undercoating & rust proofing will eliminate all kinds of road noise. AND it saves your vehicle down the road years from now from rusting.
@@danielfair4675 That’s engine noise, not road noise. Undercoating won’t help. I drove the 2.5 and it is REALLY noisy on even mild acceleration. You can hear it clearly in the video. Test drive the Crosstrek and then drive the Mazda CX-30. This will give you a clear picture of how unrefined the Crosstrek is… and they cost about the same. Subaru better watch their back … Oh, and I drive a 2014 Forester XLT turbo so I’m not a Suby-hater.
@@richardnugent7035 I own a '21 2.5 Limited.
You want motor noise, come drive my GS Corvette or 4 Runner Limted w/ Supercharger.
This Subie is as quiet as a baby sleeping to me.
I've had a Crosstrek now for 2 years, it was my second car because my first one was a piece of shit cheap two-wheel drive shitstain. You can see why I went for Subaru as my 2nd car two years after my first ha ha. I love it and honestly, can't get another car other than a Crosstrek for a while. But DAMN DUDE who tf slams on the gas above 3000 RPM?
Btw.. funny enough, speaking of.. 11:07 that's my former car on the left
It's a great little car yet for improvements they need the following: More up to date gauges, e brake and sounding isolation materials and rear air vents with USB C connectors. Oh and more lumbar. Others wise great package.
Superb review. One of my daughters has the 21 Sport and I like it so much that a Limited will soon come my way. It seems like an easy reasonable balanced car. For long trips I may get a seat cushion and lumbar pad, as I’m used to a comfortable GM larger car ride,
The old Pontiac at 9:00 is awesome. Don't see too many of those around anymore.
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i would like to see a rav4 trd off road vs crosstrek limited
Now if it only have another 50-100 hp.... it would be getting CLOSE to enough...
Please review the toyota Seinna and Venza
Sienna is coming soon!
The music choice to hear the Harmon Kardon was mealy, like eating a bowl of raw oatmeal cookie dough through your ears. Maybe some actual reference sounds. Vocals mids- guitars piano- bass etc. Even some chamber music, cellos violins etc... whatever highlights the imaging capabilities. Your choice of music was damp, almost moist. Absolutely zero focus or clarity. Sounds like you gained some weight between your ears.
I don't really understand the point of putting an audio test in a car review anyway because there are so many variables between the microphone(s) used to record it, the device used to listen and its speakers or headphones, etc. that you can't really make any meaningful comparison. Sure the car might sound a certain way but record it with a different mic, it'll sound different. Upload it to TH-cam, it gets compressed a bit. Listen on a phone speaker and it'll sound different. Listen on a pair of hi-fi speakers, it'll sound different. Listen with a pair of closed-back headphones, it'll sound different.
That CVT kills me
Is there a way to permanently turn off that annoying autostop?
This is the best car I have ever owned
Great little cars, I had one as a rental once and it was a great time, slow as hell but a good bit of fun.
Isn't that considered an "oxymoron"? lol
@David Anthony I've had my bike license for 38 yrs now, and I will agree on that front. But he was talking about an automatic transmission rental Crosstrek, and not the new 2.5 because they just came out, and sounds like his rental was quite awhile ago. So probably not all that fun, imo.
@@jakethepitador2558 I have the 2.0 with the cvt and I think it’s fun. It feels robust, the awd system is phenomenal, the car is light and tossable with very good suspension dampening. This is also by far my slowest ever car, I also drive a model y long range with boost (around 4.0 seconds to 60) and I wouldn’t call that significantly funner. Speed does not make or break how fun a car is imo, the overall package does
Wish I had a 2.5, and a manual in my '18 Impreza sport.
did anybody else see the blue older crosstrek on the opposite side of the road at 8:19
I bought one of these best car ever for price. minus the start stop lol
2.5 NA for lower trims, 2.0T for upper trims. 2.0 NA needs to go.
You can adjust the following distance of the cruise control...
Man 10:40 is just what Subaru-ing is all about for me. Driving long journeys on the highway in the rain w my G’s and some nice tunes in the stereo!
Dude, agreed!!
wow, I love the point of view from the camera, I wish all car reviews were like this!
I don't know why you would ever take this when the Mazda CX30 exists.
CX30 Turbo FTW
Manifesting this car in due time. ✨🧘🏽♀️
God only
I think the Honda HRV is the slowest of the slow.
I plan to get my first car, but I read that the Subaru Crosstrek's head gasket is a known issue. Do you know if they fixed this now? Thank you
Head gasket issue? .... That was 10 years ago.
HOW IS THE LEG ROOM ? I'm 6 foot
It's great! You can sit all the way back and bring the steering wheel towards you, especially if you have t-rex arms
I'm 6'2 and I have no complaints about the leg room in a 2019 Crosstrek. Same body style so I'd assume it's fine in the 2021 as well
From a driver's perspective, you have lots of leg room.
@@cylontoaster7660 yeah rear seat legroom isn't great
The rims make my stomach turn.
I agree, I would prefer the sport models rims and tires instead(but on the limited model)
Yeah, Suby is really into the sawblade look this year. See the Legacy XT (shudder).
Absolutely terrible alloys. Plus NEVER put the paddle down 100% as it is not going to give you nothing else but the noise! Do max 40-60% and you will see the big difference!
I've been looking at Subaru Crosstreks recently they have been a favorite among the storm chasing community
I loved my 2016 CrossTrek Premium, except the 2.0 boxer, of course. I have a 2019 Outback Touring 3.6R now, and I'd be hard pressed to let it go for a 2.5L CrossTrek. Id have to go up to a loaded Ascent from where I am.
I love these Crosstreks
I've never looked at a Subaru before, and I'm disappointed. Big engine and only 182hp? I'd prefer an electric car.
Subarus are more about all-around practicality than raw power, unless you want a WRX or less so with a BRZ.