Please try to do Kona vs. HRV vs. CX30 etc. This was a good one. I've driven several Cherokee and CX-5. Couldn't agree more! CX-5 is a winner all around here. Especially with the turbo.
The Crosstrek really isn't a competitor to be other two. That would be the Forester, but I understand they're logistics involved with a comparison test, and sometimes vehicles are not completely perfectly matched to one another.
I I have the cherokee and for one who loves road trips is super comfortable and the traction system for tough roads is a bless to go anywhere (sand/mud configuration is really good) . They did a great job in the suspension and ride quality
We people who are watching this know better, but fact is there are a lot of people out there who do this unfortunately. They want a rugged car so they can do crap like putting their feet on the dash acting country
I have the '19 six-speed. The flywheel might as well be made of tungsten. Acceleration and shifting are more exercises in patience than fun. Still. I got it because it's the car in this segment with a stick, and I'd do it again.
A far better comparison would have been to use the CX5 Signature with the turbo (250 HP with premium), the Cherokee Overland with the turbo 270 HP with premium), and the Subaru Outback XT also with a turbo (260 HP). With each coming it at or near $40,000 US I feel that those three vehicles play on the same stage and offer a more competitive suite of features, and capabilities along with having similar power and performance.
Cherokees are always on sale , and you'd buy the limited anyway to compete with the other two. I don't understand why they chose the full offroad Cherokee to test on road only .
My parents have a Cherokee an a CX-5 (both bought lightly used for a big discount over MSRP). Every time I go home, I almost exclusively drive the CX-5. I think that says all that needs to be said.
2018 Subvaru Crosstrek MANUAL transmission. cheaper, even Lighter than auto, stiffer chassis than XV older model i off road literally everywhere safely, and manualtransmission: shift to redline if you feel like and keeps good mpgs its just an amazing daily driver!!
Rented a Nissan Dukie (Juke) while in Switzerland. Putting an anemic 1.3 liter engine in a car at altitude with all those mountains is downright criminal.
@@JulezWinnfield Never said I dislike american cars, i would love to own one. Also, 150 HP would be awesome for my next car. And I am watching these reviews because I think they are interesting and I want to learn more about these cars.
@@MrRedFox1000 150hp is barely enough. And just plain slow when couple it to a cvt. Our roads are wide and straight for the most part. I wouldn't buy any new car that had less than 200hp.
@ I tried searching for the exact median HP on recent vehicle sales. Average HP for 2016 model year sales was 230 HP according to a CarScoops article I found. I expect median HP might only be slightly lower.
The Forester or Outback are competitors to the Cherokee and CX-5, not the Crosstrek. Compass and CX-30 are the correct competitors to the Crosstrek, which just got the 2.5 NA for 2021 (in the top half of trims).
Jeep is 4x4 (not AWD) and had gears (not a horrible CVT) what about an LGBT crosstrek says adventure that Jeep doesn’t? I can think of almost a dozen brands that are better than Subaru at what they advertise And Jeep is by far the most fun culture with 2.2 million new Jeeps bought last year alone
In 2 months there will be a new king in this competition, the Mazda CX-50. It's over. Jeep you're done. Subaru, thanks but there's a parting gift waiting for you in the lobby. That SUV will be the new King of the mountain.
Honestly, the best engine in a small SUV I know of was the VW Tiguan up until 2016. 200 HP and 207 Torque. I got two of those. It was an amazing small SUV way (waayy) punchier than any comparable Mazda (whos brand is to be punchy). The new Tiguan version is meh. The Crosstrek is reliable but so boring. My dad got a Crosstrek. My brother got a Crosstrek. What a boring car. And that 2.5 CVT is in their entire lineup now I think except a pricier turbo version on the Outback. So I guess the Mazda CX 5 is ok, all concidered. I might look that way but I miss the og 2008-2016 Tiguan performance.
I’m so confused by how you picked these 3. The Crosstrek is a sub-compact-crossover, while CX5 and the Cherokee are compacts. Why / how did you pick these contenders? And where are all the other contenders in each category? I didn’t see any qualifier in your introduction to explain this. Poor effort.
I'd take the Cherokee over the other two. It is just so comfortable inside. I love the infotainment system. Jeeps are always on discount so never pay $40k for one. Hopefully, Jeep improves the transmission on the Cherokees one of these days- only then will I replace my 2017 Cherokee Overland.
I just bought a new vehicle 12 days ago. All 3 of these were on my short list...along with the new Kia Seltos. After much research and driving all 4 of them they finished in this order on my list #4 the Crosstrek #3 the Cherokee. A very close #2 the Seltos. And on my list the winner was the Mazda CX-5!
Gentlemen, thank you. I laughed out loud several times. I've been looking at videos starring these cars for weeks. Yours has been the most fun so far. Your sincere impressions are valuable and refreshing given the scripted videos I've endured. Subbed to show my appreciation. Well done.
How did you pay 40,000 for that Jeep? I have a 2021 Jeep Cherokee 80th anniversary edition, 3.2 L Six, four-wheel-drive with tow package. Paid just over 34,000 at Jeep Only. It is also loaded with all the new safety features. For long trips it has the most comfortable seats I have ever driven in. I have honestly never felt worn out after driving this vehicle 7-8 hours. It also tows well. Factory tow is rated at 4500lbs.
I AGREE with that one driver-- Subaru HAS backed off of the things that made the CROSSTREK FUN- by "watering down" the sportiness and driving capabilities.. etc.. trying to please too many people that are stupid and don't know about using it for what it's designed for.
I'd buy the WRX hatch (lifted or not) with a 6 speed manual in a heartbeat. Unfortunately the 5 speed manual in the Impreza is not nearly as good as the 6 speed in the Crosstrek and they're both down on power over everything else I'd consider. I appreciate the comparison between the CX-5 and the Crosstrek because I've considered those exact two cars head to head.
@jesuis baizuo not entirely untrue. We don’t buy work horses that work. We have Chelsea and 21 inch chrome alloys. Subarus don’t sell here. For zero reason. We seam to only like premium German.
I'm late to comment on this......but the Cherokee has a Sport setting that you didn't use! All manufacturers gear their vehicles for economy and that's why they are boring as a daily driver. However in Sport mode this changes the upshift & downshift points as well as sharpening the throttle response. You should know this and should have demonstrated this difference in driving the Cherokee. This model now has a very sharp response compared to earlier production. Thanks
The new Crosstrek is competitive now. With the Forester engine under the hood it's a great utilitarian car. Also the most capable off-road vehicle of this lot is the Subaru. They rag on it but don't use it for what it was made for.
I really wish Subaru had a WRX hatchback in the U.S. I could have fun in the summer with some sticky tires and curvy mountain roads. Then in the winter, haul some friends and our gear up to the slopes for some skiing fun riding on snow tires.
I'm curious whether the G Vectoring was already added for the Mazda CX5 on this video? They say there's too much of body roll and I thought the G Vectoring was the solution for it.
Reliability is only a factor in these vehicles after 100k miles. Each of these vehicles will easily hit that mark. Now, who lasts after that is a toss up. The Subaru has a shitty cvt and loads of small, annoying problems as it ages. Same with the Jeep. Mazda is likely the top dog here.
Do u still love it ? What did u pay? I see discounts right now with prices $29-$34. 22 model compass/Cherokee have as much as $10k below MSRP. Compass I refuse to get the 2.4 . But don’t want to pay 36 -40 for the new 2.0 turbo. Was hoping for price drops on the Mazdas. The local Mazda dealership has 2 cx5 1 cx30 1 cx50. The 2020, 21 used cars have been sitting for months . They won’t drop prices.
Crosstrek is a crossover so smaller than sub compact like kona Hrv and cx30 level, if u compare crosstrek to cx5 their front and passenger seat dimension is actually kinda close
90% of people buying these will never take them off road. A fire road… maybe… but a place like where we shot this is the farthest “away” most owners will get. We’ve done Moab rock crawling reviews when appropriate. Thanks for watching.
All cars are far too expensive with relative context to stagnant 30 years wages, but their prices keep going up... thats just not fair. You cant say, pay people less but make cost of living higher, no more pentions, people fired right before they get tenure...just no guys, i love your channel but the statement that any of these cars are affordable in the context of the last 20 years lack of wage growth, is inaccurate and irresponsible and you have to know that.
Have to disagree. If one buys a lower end model, and is careful with the options, cars today are IMO not overpriced. Compared to 5 or 10 years ago, current vehicles offer huge advances in safety, driver assistance, and entertainment features. If new car prices are too expensive, one can always get a 2 or 3 year old used model. Whether our society has kept up in wage growth and general criticism of our social structure is another issue.
i miss the old #jeep @jeep cherokee reboot look! the split head lights from the blinker is a real nice touch and now they spoon feed the masses with the new one sadly enough!!!
(Crosstrek) Regarding: "My struggle is it feels like a stopgap. It feels like taking a car that you should have bought the WRX hatch, hello Subaru, and make it into an almost CUV so that it can compete in this market" You guys do realize that the Crosstrek was announced in 2012 and came out as a 2013 model year right? If anything the Crosstrek has pioneered the small CUV category, not simply lifted an Impreza to "compete".
I get the two presenters, but chopping and changing is very off putting. It's also confusing as you don't know what car there in. Could they not just pick a car each and review it first and then move onto the next, or compare each segment and then move on to the next segment, like interior, drive etc. Honestly really choppy and takes away from the reviews to be honest.
If you watch it like the tv episode it is instead of multitasking it's actually pretty easy to follow along. If you have it on more as background noise then yeah, hard to follow.
@@phattyhales issue here bud it's not a TV show, plus even if it was I would dispute that to be honest. You never saw top gear, fifth gear or GT switching between cars on every part. Carwow do it well when they have more than 2 cars to review, it's not choppy.
Put 4 people in that Crosstrek with some gear and listen to that cvt moan while you try to get 60 in less than 15 seconds. A totally worthless vehicle for anyone who's ever driven over the speed limit.
Had it loaded up with wife, baby and all the shit that comes with it and did 400 plus miles while getting 39+ mpg at 75mph from CT to Maine. Have zero complaints about this car whatsoever
U guys didn't drive in the mud didn't drive on a icey road and didn't drive in the snow I drove the jeep and Mazda before buying my 2023 subaru crosstrek and wasn't impressed with them u also didn't drive on the highway with alot of traffic going 70-80 mph the jeep and Mazda felt big a bulky handling I just think all of u guys let us down on the test I'm giving u the same as the crosstrek last place on this review plus u guys didn't compare apples to apples u should of compared the subaru forester or outback to the jeep or Mazda for the jeep u should of compared the compass to the crosstrex more apples to apples my son has a mazda 3 and it's a nice car but it doesn't impress me its just like the cx5 in handling now I do give u guys this the looks of the cx5 I really like that's why when I test drove it I was very disappointed the sales man took me off the road in the Mazda on a trail and it didn't perform very well next time u do a comparison really go all out because honestly most people the buy vechiles like this go camping or live out in the country driving in mud driving on snow filled roads or icey roads where the plows don't get to much or the salt truck alright I'm done I'm just so mad at this review
Too much negativity in your reviews. The CX-5 drives amazingly and the parchment leather really makes it look like a $80K car rather than $35. The new now 2023 model is beautiful. I had a Subaru Crosstrek and have to say it drove great, but the cabin is so outdated. Not to mention they still use hard key for ignition.
Subaru: Good Feelings, not much else. Jeep: Big. Heavy. Expensive. Not great to drive. Mazda: An 8 in all categories where other vehicles struggle to get to 8 in any area.
Sound deadening in Dodge is superior to subaru, and you have to pay for it at the subaru dealer. It's an underrated feature In my opinion. It's like turning up your volume to the max to hear someone over the phone in a subaru.
The Mazda is crossover from a mini van to a little all wheel drive station wagon. While the Ford Bronco Sport Badlands,Toyota RAV whatever they're calling it ,and the same for the Subaru are all Trailhawk wanna be's.They are all less capable off road compared to the Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk..That's right even more capable than the Badlands with the GOAT drive system. What is is that gets the Trailhawk such hate? If you want a luxurious compact CUV then buy the friken Mazda,if you want a CUV that deserves the term *Crossover* and willl outperform) ANY of the vehicles listed (off-road) then get the Jeep Trailhawk Edition Cherokee. Personally I love the 2014-18 look of the Jeep Cherokee and feel that in 2019 they caved to all the Jeep Wrangler snobs. Personally I couldn't wait for Jeep to make something that looks like it was actually designed in the 21st century😏 I was so done with the square CJ rolling brick/kidney shaker. I've had it with all hate about the modern look of the 2014-18 Cherokee.🤬 I own a 2015 with the 3.2 pentastar 275 horse 251 ft lbs of torque. It leaves these other vehicles struggling off road. It has full underbody cladding and heavier springs and shocks a dual speed transfer case and a rear locking differential which none of these other vehicles have yes even the Badlands! I find the Cherokee trailhawk edition to be an incredible vehicle. Its ride and interior leave nothing to complain about. I have had zero issues with it in 50,000 miles and average 20 mpg around town and 26mpg highway with mixed mpg of 21. The tires still have 50% of their tread! Tire rotations,oil changes,cabin and engine air filters are all of the maintenance done to this vehicle. Even the brakes have another 40-50k left on them! * In closing,if you want a luxurious mini van that looks like a CUV then by all means get the Mazda* ••If you want a B@||$ to the wall off roader/daily driver it's the Trailhawk😏
My Mother-in-law has a Crosstrek, and I must say, I don't like it at all. It has numb steering and handling, the engine sounds like an air cooled riding lawnmower (it makes a ton of racket when it is on fast idle when you start it in cold weather). The interior looks and feels outdated, and I guess it's the CVT that makes the car feel gutless. I had originally recommended either the Mazda CX-5 or Nissan Rogue instead, but she ultimately made a deal on the Crosstrek. To be fair, it is a stark contrast from my own daily, a Focus ST, and that is probably the main reason the Subie feels so utilitarian... I agree that the Cherokee has come a long way, and hopefully it can correct some of the durability issues that previous Jeep products were known for. Not everyone has the money for an SRT Grand Cherokee...
Been a fan of you guys for years, a long-time subscriber. Thanks for the great content. However, let's get something clear out of the way. These cars, as priced, are all vastly over-priced. 30-40k for a 4 cylinder and questionable transmission. Absurd. The technology placed in these cars doesn't justify the astronomical prices. And quite frankly, the obsession of focusing on car technology with regards to the multimedia is useless. The way cars are packaged with tech is the single biggest automotive industry problem. To get the better engine and/or transmission, you have to pay out the roof and add all these useless tech packages. None of these technology features (looking at touchscreen infotainment centers) require the cost that you are charged for upgrades. A $400 iPhone se is more snappy, responsive, and user - friendly than any of these infotainment systems. Which by the way often add hundreds to a couple grand to upgrade. Why switch from the physical buttons and knobs of yesterday? Simple. Repair costs. When that screen goes out, those repairs will not be cheap. How often do you break a button/knob? In 5 years, all of these systems will be outdated and sluggish. Knobs, physical mechanisms - those will not. Another incentive to get people to buy new cars. The emphasis on the multimedia/technology experience allows manufacturers to shift R and D away from important factors - engine, transmission, suspension, etc. CVTs are - in general - atrocious. And the longevity of those transmissions compared to a 6 or 8 speed auto are questionable. CVTs are hailed as fuel saving - I'd argue the main emphasis is cost-cutting. The only tech features I truly care about are safety. How much do you think a rear-view camera, blindspot monitoring, and those sensors really cost to develop? I guarantee it's a mere fraction of what they charge. Point is - the price of the modern everyday people mover is ludicrous. The emphasis on certain technology features allows bundling to be used to achieve astronomical prices for the desired configuration that most people want - engine, drivetrain, etc. These cars, and in general your average daily driver, are best found in their near base form. The loaded variants are a waste of money. If it were me, a base awd Cx-5 for 25-26k would be the way to go. I appreciate the review as always, I'm merely frustrated at the modern-day price structure of cars.
Mark Leshyk and now that Mazda has put push button start, rain sensing wipers and all the safety features on their base versions of their vehicles is a win-win!
They don’t know anything about the Cherokee. It doesn’t have a naturally aspirated 2.0. THats a 2.4, 3.2 v6 and 2 0 turbo. And they called it a grand Cherokee. I’ll take a naturally aspirated v6 any day over a 4 cylinder or turbo.
Subaru crosstrek is a sub compact and you are comparing it to two other vehicles that are in the next class. The crosstrek should be compared to the kona, hrv, taos, ect..
Although I get it, it's interesting to me that when some people think Subaru they go to WRX. When I think Subaru, I think Outback, and things like the Brat before that. I think vehicle very similar to the Crosstrek.
No you don’t want a Impreza i just traded one for the crosstrek which is way more capable in all most every way. Switch backs are the exception. No wrx. And it out sells the other two because it dose what it is build to, getter done pick up the dog keep the kids safe eat in the car hit the trail head and the drive way while driving through a blizzard. We are not on our way to the Opera we are living life in the real world and that is where the Crosstrek shines
As a factory trained CZ transmission rebuilder and trouble shooting, they use what is called "shift comfort". We would call it blending. The new transmission have a learning ability and can change on driving habits.
Jeep too expensive, CX-5 to small inside for what its supposed to be. Crosstrek wins due to its intended purpose. Small, utilitarian hatch with awd and all the modern safety tech for under 30k.
Two years ago I test drove the 2019 Cherokee and CX5 among other compact SUV’s. I ended up purchasing a Cherokee with the 2.0 turbo and absolutely love it. I love the looks of the CX5 but it had a cramped interior, slow noisy engine, horrible infotainment and felt like a tin can. The Jeep was way more solid feeling and much quieter. Also, to get the turbo engine in the Mazda was $10,000 more than what I paid for the Cherokee.
what a terrible review. You talk up all the appealing criteria and then throw it all out and pick based on engine power. People don't buy cars that way - especially women.
Quite confused by your comment. The CX5 does well here and it’s not because of power. This was long before the CX5 or the crosstrek got turbos and both did well in the end. And we recommend both in our podcast. We’re not sure what outcome you were hoping for, but thanks for watching anyway.
@@EverydayDriver I wasn't expecting any outcome when I started watching, but as I watched it, and you pointed out all the pros and cons of each vehicle, I was expecting you to select the Crosstrek based on your comments. Yet in the end, you thru all those pros and cons out and selected the one with highest acceleration. So all the folks that buy the Subaru in much greater numbers than the other two just stupid?
Great review guys! I would take exception to the parchment interior. I’ve had light/white interiors on my last 3 cars (BMW X5, Audi Q7, and TESLA Model 3) and never had any issues with them getting dirty to the point of not being easily cleaned...and that’s with two young boys aging through their pre-teen years playing soccer, through high school and playing lacrosse, fencing, wrestling, and ice hockey! I will say, I would almost pay money to see Todd put his hair in a man bun while driving!! LOL. You guys are adding to my homework now...I need to drive the Impreza since I don’t really need the lift part of it.
That was probably one of the least satisfying everyday driver episodes I have watched. You guys have become pretty predictable. I thought the CX5 was comparable to an Outback. How come there is never any mention of cost of ownership, reliability, longevity, etc..
There is no way for us (or anyone) to know the cost of ownership or reliability of a brand new press car provided to us with a thousand or so miles. Over time, that information is available and easy to be looked up. We like consumer reports for a lot of that. Thanks for watching!
@@EverydayDriver I see your point. You are just test driving for 1st impressions. Though these models often have earlier years, reputations, word on the street. Not sure Scottiy would advise anyone to by a Jeep - ha. Of course the Utah scenery is gorgeous, and some cars very exotic. But my favorite episode so far was the Alfa, Porsche and Lotus on Whitney Portal That time I was pulling for the Lotus. My cousin had one and I will likely never ride in a car that corners better Also when you compared generators of Miata, BMW, Porsche, very educational. Cheers.
I feel Subaru are the real winners. They know the real reason people buy these cars. People just want a car on stilts. Subaru supplies them with that in the cheapest way possible (for themselves), and gets to rake in the cash. They know people are sheeple. I can't help but respect a genuinely smart business decision. Now, where's my Volvo estate......
@jesuis baizuo My point is I've seen all the excuses about why someone says they need such a car, but the only real reason I've actually seen, is so that people can be higher up than other motorists, so they can feel better than them. Irony is, because everyone is in one of these cars, no one is actually higher up any more.
I own a 2018 CX-5 and I agree with all your points except I find that the seats are not comfortable on a long journey. I wish that the seats had more bolstering on the sides. The only other thing I wish is that it had paddles on the steering wheel as you mentioned. But otherwise the CX5 is a home run. It’s a great family CUV I’m not embarrassed to drive. Also- the price is right.
The CX-5 is nice...with the turbo. I think it needs it to feel right. The turbo also makes it more unique in the segment. Low power cars really aren't useful in the modern world. HP and driving speeds have universally ramped up where it seems more and more dangerous when you don't have 250 HP or more. It would be a different story if cars remained very light, but the ever increasing weight necessitates HP. I can't say I've liked Subaru for the same reason when they dropped down to the 2.0L size in the NA format. The Legacy with the 3.6L is great. The Legacy with the new 2.4L turbo is great. The Legacy with the NA is a dog. The smaller Impreza is a dog too. These cars felt only slightly peppy in the lighter weight earlier generations, but my old, old Forester made HP and torque and was lighter. In modern times, I can never buy a low HP car. It's either a 4 cylinder turbo or a V6, nothing less. The CVT transmission really needs bigger engines. They work great. From an engineering standpoint, the CVT is about as ideal as you can get. And Subaru makes a good one. Paired to the larger 3.6L engine, it feels great and acts great. I works super well with actual torque behind it and an engine that is linear in response. When tuned well, it's stellar. I hate every automatic car I drive because it isn't as good as CVT. But any CVT paired with a small engine with no power will always be an annoying experience. It's not the CVT's fault. It's just that the engine is weak. I'm a manual guy. I have several and race manuals. But I will always happily buy a CVT because it is technically amazing...if it's programmed well and paired to a good engine. I will pick a CVT over any ZF auto with however many gears they want to package into it. It's just rare that a CVT is paired with a bigger engine. There's not many CVTs paired to V6s or even turbo 4 cylinders. A CVT paired to a big V8 is like a unicorn. There's only one vehicle that you can buy with a CVT paired to a V8. More brands need to embrace CVT, but more brands need to embrace bigger engines again and just do cylinder deactivation to save gas. Small turbo does not equal mileage, and small NA does but is so compromising. I was in the market for a new vehicle, and my market were these cars and even the larger 3 row vehicles too. I also looked at mid size trucks because those too offer seating for 5 but also high utility. I liked the Cherokee. I almost bought one, but their reliability and deprecation was highly unknown. It just felt like a bigger sedan, especially on the non-Trailhawk version. The Trailkawk was just on a firmer spring, more up on its toes, and felt just a wee bit different. But other versions might as well have been a full size sedan, very natural feeling, intuitive, and well refined. The CX-5 turbo is interesting. I would never want the NA though. I avoided previous generations because of the lack of power. I like the CX-5 turbo, and they tuned it far better than the CX-9. The CX-5 is full and the upscale interior feels reasonably special. I've been a Subaru guy for over a decade, but I've never driven the new generation Impreza/Crosstrek. I went straight to the Legacy/Outback. I have old Foresters, and the new generations don't bring anything new to me. They don't interest me, and that's bad for Subaru. I liked the new styling of the Legacy (new, previous), and the 3.6L is a great engine, albeit underutilized (needs hotter cams and stronger top end to really be a fun engine). I've owned the Legacy for a short time, but it wasn't quite what I wanted. So I was on the hunt for a SUV again, possibly the Outback, but I was looking at everything. I was also looking at midsize trucks and test drove all of them. At the end of my search, I bought a Honda Ridgeline. It's a vehicle that's at the same price point as the vehicles in this comparison, $30k to $40k. Plus you can get it in the SUV version in a 5 or 8 seater in the Pilot and Passport versions. This is a bigger vehicle, sure, but you're still in a similar market. I really find a better vehicle at this price and package of features. It has a V6 and a peppier engine than Subaru, similar to the Jeep's V6 but has a little more character to it. The interior is upscale but also utilitarian, a good mix of nice and utility and less extreme in this sense than Mazda or Subaru. The cabin is quiet, and the ride is smooth. It soaks up bumps extremely well, and it's cushy. But it also handles well, especially with the fancy rear diff with the iVMT (SHAWD) and torque vectoring. It's quick with good power. It corners very well and feel stable and well controlled. It's tuning is good with excellent balance and stability. Then you can hook 5000 lbs to the back and go cross country and still get over 20mpg. Want to know what mpg I'm pulling at 65mph down the highway? 36mpg...in a truck. I get mid 20s in city/mixed, and get 19-21 towing. It gets as good as my Legacy which had better aero. It rides better. It has the same tech (although Honda's adaptive cruise doesn't go to 0mph and crash mitigation systems are about half as good). It's better than the Cherokee. It's better than the Crosstrek. It's better than the CX-5. Honda is offering a better total package, and and it's the same price. There's really only one thing I don't really like, which is the standard automatic. It's...ok, but a pretty normal thing in a modern world of better stuff. The newer Ridgelines do now get a 9 speed ZF though which is probably about the same thing as in the Cherokee I would guess. That's the challenge in all of this. The automotive market is broad, and there's a lot of overlap. Unless you're attempting to go to one feature or performance extreme, usually there's more than a dozen or two vehicles across several segments that all fit your wants pretty well. The best pick might not be the segment you're initially shopping. I was shopping in the segment as the three tested here, and I bought none of them. There was something better. In a segment that carries 5 adults or more, hauls stuff, does adventure well, brings tech, offers utility, and does it all in the $30k to $40k range, man, I'm hard pressed to ever pass up with Honda offers. The only caveat is that this opens the door to other vehicles too, bigger SUVs, trucks, etc., and part of this comparison is a purposeful adherence to smaller vehicles, to which the Honda is comparatively large and big for even a midsize truck identity. But $40k is $40k any way you spend it, so what's the best total value you can get for those dollars?
Dangerous if you dont have 250 hp? Seriously?? I drive an Impreza, and have never felt I was put in a dangerous situation by lack of power. Is it exciting--no. Do I wish it had about 30 more horsepower? Yes. But the power is certainly adequate if one drives sanely.
I have 90,000 miles live in Chicago. I have a 2016 3.2 v6 4x4 only. Front set of brakes 55,000, 1 battery 44,000, 1 fuel injector changed at 82,000 miles the rest just oil changes. Been pretty reliable
You can have the 182hp 2.5 in the Crosstrek; problem is they come with Eyesight which make windscreen replacement(a yearly thing for me somehow) a 1400 buck affair, the air con compressor and evaporator will probably let go at around the 70 000 km mark and cost 2k to repair and timing belt which is another 2k affair at around 100 000 km. So, a costly car to own.
@@OutdoorFun01 Some are more dependable than other, Suibaru's are notoriously the least dependable, therefore costlier to own, of the Japanese builders. Thin paint, cheap material, ill fitting body panels, uncomfortable seat, finicky engine, expensive parts and known issues that Subaru won't fix are what you have to expect when you enter one of their dealers.
The crosstrek uses a timing chain, not belt so it will typically last the life of the car. I’ve never heard of ac and evap core going out that quickly on any car, unless something else was going on with it. I will however agree with you on the windshield, I do not like the added “safety” feature that they added into the newer ones.
Bah! Everything cost something. I ad a 2007 Impreza, 2011 Legacy Sport, 2017 impreza, 2019 impreza and now 2021 Crosstrek. No regrets, never went in the shop for problems. Just normal care. My 2010 Mazda 3 was good too for 8 years. But wanted an awd. Did get me 189 000 km.
The 9Speed is a compact FWD transmission that has a LOT of gears crammed into a small package, it's been well documented why it shifts slow. If you want a Manual then get the Jeep Compass, cheaper than Cherokee, great rear seats and has better colors
As a general rule, I can’t stand social engineering and Mazda ruined it for me because they dabbled in it. So here’s the story. My Miata was in for warranty service and I got an Mazda 3 loaner. I was leaving work one day for my 70 mile commute home and noticed that the AC was barely working. This was aggravating because it was hot outside. I stopped to get a cold drink and some gas. Turns out, when you’re low on fuel, the car’s computer shuts off the AC to conserve fuel. As soon as I put fuel in the car the AC worked fine again so I read up on it and that’s what I discovered. What if I’d been a single mom with two small children in the car baking to a crisp. It was about 90* with 80% humidity outside. With each model year of new cars it seems we’re all being herded into a “welcome to no choice” engineering. On principle, I can’t stand that. Turns out my Miata does not have this feature, I checked.
Please try to do Kona vs. HRV vs. CX30 etc. This was a good one. I've driven several Cherokee and CX-5. Couldn't agree more! CX-5 is a winner all around here. Especially with the turbo.
The Crosstrek really isn't a competitor to be other two. That would be the Forester, but I understand they're logistics involved with a comparison test, and sometimes vehicles are not completely perfectly matched to one another.
I think a lot of people would compare the CX-5 to the Crosstrek. I certainly have done so.
I agree. I got a few vids. Here's one th-cam.com/video/-mO30zZpJeg/w-d-xo.html
crosstrek should have been be compared to cx30, which is smaller car
the cx5, do not actually have subaru comparison but probable to a forrester
I was looking for this comparison. Thanks for the video team!
I I have the cherokee and for one who loves road trips is super comfortable and the traction system for tough roads is a bless to go anywhere (sand/mud configuration is really good) . They did a great job in the suspension and ride quality
I wish he would quit saying "put your feet on the dash". That is such a dangerous practice.
We people who are watching this know better, but fact is there are a lot of people out there who do this unfortunately. They want a rugged car so they can do crap like putting their feet on the dash acting country
Let’s not forget to mention that it’s disgusting.
@@OhPhuckYou which is why I do not want to buy used cars. Feet on the dash is far from the most disgusting thing people do in their cars.
@jesuis baizuo have you seen the results of an accident involving someone in that position?
I'd get the Crosstrek with the Manual Transmission. More fun to drive and better performance.
I have the '19 six-speed. The flywheel might as well be made of tungsten. Acceleration and shifting are more exercises in patience than fun.
Still. I got it because it's the car in this segment with a stick, and I'd do it again.
I love the CX5!
M.A.Z.D.A. 😁😁😁😁😁
A far better comparison would have been to use the CX5 Signature with the turbo (250 HP with premium), the Cherokee Overland with the turbo 270 HP with premium), and the Subaru Outback XT also with a turbo (260 HP). With each coming it at or near $40,000 US I feel that those three vehicles play on the same stage and offer a more competitive suite of features, and capabilities along with having similar power and performance.
Cherokees are always on sale , and you'd buy the limited anyway to compete with the other two. I don't understand why they chose the full offroad Cherokee to test on road only .
My parents have a Cherokee an a CX-5 (both bought lightly used for a big discount over MSRP). Every time I go home, I almost exclusively drive the CX-5. I think that says all that needs to be said.
Yep, your parents shoulda bought a 2019+ Cherokee Trailhawk Elite with the V6...
@@User-cc6cq That's a huge price difference (12k more than my dad spent and 15k more than my mom spent)
How is the driver seat on long trips? I found the bottom of the seat to be a bit firm and the lumbar adjustment doesn't adjust as much.
It's a shame that you didn't go with the 22K manual premium version of the Crosstrek, then you'd have had 20K, 30K and 40K.
2018 Subvaru Crosstrek MANUAL transmission. cheaper, even Lighter than auto, stiffer chassis than XV older model i off road literally everywhere safely, and manualtransmission: shift to redline if you feel like and keeps good mpgs its just an amazing daily driver!!
Jeeps the best 👍
It's always funny when americans say "my phone has more than 150 HP". Here in Europe most people drive around with less.
Why are you watching an American car review channel if you dislike Americans?
Rented a Nissan Dukie (Juke) while in Switzerland. Putting an anemic 1.3 liter engine in a car at altitude with all those mountains is downright criminal.
@@JulezWinnfield Never said I dislike american cars, i would love to own one. Also, 150 HP would be awesome for my next car.
And I am watching these reviews because I think they are interesting and I want to learn more about these cars.
@@MrRedFox1000 150hp is barely enough. And just plain slow when couple it to a cvt. Our roads are wide and straight for the most part. I wouldn't buy any new car that had less than 200hp.
@ I tried searching for the exact median HP on recent vehicle sales. Average HP for 2016 model year sales was 230 HP according to a CarScoops article I found. I expect median HP might only be slightly lower.
The Forester or Outback are competitors to the Cherokee and CX-5, not the Crosstrek.
Compass and CX-30 are the correct competitors to the Crosstrek, which just got the 2.5 NA for 2021 (in the top half of trims).
If it’s Jeep it’s a paid sponsorship video. No car this sector gives you adventure. As they say. Thanks
But the Jeep actually does. Do a youtube search. Ppl actually do offroad their Cherokees.
Jeep is 4x4 (not AWD) and had gears (not a horrible CVT) what about an LGBT crosstrek says adventure that Jeep doesn’t? I can think of almost a dozen brands that are better than Subaru at what they advertise And Jeep is by far the most fun culture with 2.2 million new Jeeps bought last year alone
Almost every Jeep I see is a mall crawler. I see a LOT of Crosstrek a out in the mountains when I go camping. Jeep marketing works @@chadhanson4369
In 2 months there will be a new king in this competition, the Mazda CX-50. It's over. Jeep you're done. Subaru, thanks but there's a parting gift waiting for you in the lobby. That SUV will be the new King of the mountain.
Apparently, Todd does not know the difference between a Grand Cherokee & a Cherokee.
Honestly, the best engine in a small SUV I know of was the VW Tiguan up until 2016. 200 HP and 207 Torque. I got two of those. It was an amazing small SUV way (waayy) punchier than any comparable Mazda (whos brand is to be punchy). The new Tiguan version is meh. The Crosstrek is reliable but so boring. My dad got a Crosstrek. My brother got a Crosstrek. What a boring car. And that 2.5 CVT is in their entire lineup now I think except a pricier turbo version on the Outback. So I guess the Mazda CX 5 is ok, all concidered. I might look that way but I miss the og 2008-2016 Tiguan performance.
I’m so confused by how you picked these 3. The Crosstrek is a sub-compact-crossover, while CX5 and the Cherokee are compacts. Why / how did you pick these contenders? And where are all the other contenders in each category? I didn’t see any qualifier in your introduction to explain this. Poor effort.
I'd take the Cherokee over the other two. It is just so comfortable inside. I love the infotainment system.
Jeeps are always on discount so never pay $40k for one. Hopefully, Jeep improves the transmission on the Cherokees one of these days- only then will I replace my 2017 Cherokee Overland.
I just bought a new vehicle 12 days ago. All 3 of these were on my short list...along with the new Kia Seltos. After much research and driving all 4 of them they finished in this order on my list #4 the Crosstrek #3 the Cherokee. A very close #2 the Seltos. And on my list the winner was the Mazda CX-5!
I would recommend Cherokee trail hawk ,wife has one since new it already has 80kmiles and only oil change and brakes no major repairs
Tom B I agree. If I were going to buy a Cherokee, I would get the trailhawk version
2019 + Cherokee Trailhawk Elite is in a class by itself! Get the V6, not the 4 banger turblow...
@@User-cc6cq Plus the 4 turbo is an Alfa Romeo engine . I'd stay well clear of that name
You should sell it before it starts breaking down because trust me, the problems are on the way. It's a Jeep not a Japanese product
Gentlemen, thank you. I laughed out loud several times. I've been looking at videos starring these cars for weeks. Yours has been the most fun so far. Your sincere impressions are valuable and refreshing given the scripted videos I've endured. Subbed to show my appreciation. Well done.
Thank you! Glad you found us and thrilled to hear you enjoyed this enough to subscribe. Thanks for watching!
How did you pay 40,000 for that Jeep? I have a 2021 Jeep Cherokee 80th anniversary edition, 3.2 L Six, four-wheel-drive with tow package. Paid just over 34,000 at Jeep Only. It is also loaded with all the new safety features. For long trips it has the most comfortable seats I have ever driven in. I have honestly never felt worn out after driving this vehicle 7-8 hours. It also tows well. Factory tow is rated at 4500lbs.
I AGREE with that one driver-- Subaru HAS backed off of the things that made the CROSSTREK FUN- by "watering down" the sportiness and driving capabilities.. etc.. trying to please too many people that are stupid and don't know about using it for what it's designed for.
I'd buy the WRX hatch (lifted or not) with a 6 speed manual in a heartbeat. Unfortunately the 5 speed manual in the Impreza is not nearly as good as the 6 speed in the Crosstrek and they're both down on power over everything else I'd consider. I appreciate the comparison between the CX-5 and the Crosstrek because I've considered those exact two cars head to head.
Unclear what car you are talking about at the moment.
Moved from Subarus to Mazdas and will never look back.
The more I drive this Subaru that’s hated in EU the more I... please be novel. None these cars any good. Just be carwow UK honest
@jesuis baizuo not entirely untrue. We don’t buy work horses that work. We have Chelsea and 21 inch chrome alloys. Subarus don’t sell here. For zero reason. We seam to only like premium German.
I'm late to comment on this......but the Cherokee has a Sport setting that you didn't use! All manufacturers gear their vehicles for economy and that's why they are boring as a daily driver. However in Sport mode this changes the upshift & downshift points as well as sharpening the throttle response.
You should know this and should have demonstrated this difference in driving the Cherokee. This model now has a very sharp response compared to earlier production. Thanks
I think the Crosstrek would be a much better car if they just gave it 50 more HP. It just seems so underpowered.
Now it does with the 2.5 (30 hp :) ) th-cam.com/video/902oV1rCscU/w-d-xo.html
The new Crosstrek is competitive now. With the Forester engine under the hood it's a great utilitarian car. Also the most capable off-road vehicle of this lot is the Subaru. They rag on it but don't use it for what it was made for.
what, the trash?😀😃😄🤣🤣🤣
Lmao. No. The crosstrek is nowhere near the most capable off road. Cvt’s suck off road.
Other then rev-hang, which is found in many, more athletic, cars. The manual 2018+ crosstreck is still the most fun you can have in the segment.
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The Subaru drive train is the advantage as to its all wheel drive system.
I really wish Subaru had a WRX hatchback in the U.S. I could have fun in the summer with some sticky tires and curvy mountain roads. Then in the winter, haul some friends and our gear up to the slopes for some skiing fun riding on snow tires.
I'm curious whether the G Vectoring was already added for the Mazda CX5 on this video? They say there's too much of body roll and I thought the G Vectoring was the solution for it.
It would be great if you indicate their reliability. I bet Mazda would be on top among these
I’m pretty sure the Mazda and crosstreck have amazing predicted reliability. I’m sure the Jeep is pretty bad as most are but I don’t know for sure
Reliability is only a factor in these vehicles after 100k miles. Each of these vehicles will easily hit that mark. Now, who lasts after that is a toss up. The Subaru has a shitty cvt and loads of small, annoying problems as it ages. Same with the Jeep. Mazda is likely the top dog here.
No one is using the paddle shifters or manual mode in these. It’s fluff.
Maybe you should wash your blue jeans periodically.
@EverydayDriver - Hey Paul and Todd, do you have a review anywhere of the CX-3? Leaning towards it for a first vehicle. Thanks guys!
I just bought a 2021 Jeep Cherokee Latitude Lux, I love it!
Do u still love it ? What did u pay? I see discounts right now with prices $29-$34. 22 model compass/Cherokee have as much as $10k below MSRP. Compass I refuse to get the 2.4 . But don’t want to pay 36 -40 for the new 2.0 turbo. Was hoping for price drops on the Mazdas. The local Mazda dealership has 2 cx5 1 cx30 1 cx50. The 2020, 21 used cars have been sitting for months . They won’t drop prices.
Crosstrek 6 speed... You were driving the wrong transmission option . Is it me or does no one know how to, or too lazy to, drive a "standard" anymore?
We love manual transmissions and drive them often. Thanks for watching!
Why does the Crosstrek count as a CUV? It's just a lifted Impreza trim, there's no body changes at all.
Crosstrek is a crossover so smaller than sub compact like kona Hrv and cx30 level, if u compare crosstrek to cx5 their front and passenger seat dimension is actually kinda close
Should have had the 2021 Crosstrek with the 2.5 engine. I got it for $27,125, way less than 32,000.
Did you get the limited model? I actually just made an offer for $27k on a 2021 limited. The list price is almost $30,500
What a bad review... no off-road testing? Don't quit your day jobs fellas...
90% of people buying these will never take them off road. A fire road… maybe… but a place like where we shot this is the farthest “away” most owners will get. We’ve done Moab rock crawling reviews when appropriate. Thanks for watching.
The RV rant tho...
All cars are far too expensive with relative context to stagnant 30 years wages, but their prices keep going up... thats just not fair. You cant say, pay people less but make cost of living higher, no more pentions, people fired right before they get tenure...just no guys, i love your channel but the statement that any of these cars are affordable in the context of the last 20 years lack of wage growth, is inaccurate and irresponsible and you have to know that.
The average cost of a new car in the USA is around $37,000, making these pretty average in price.
Have to disagree. If one buys a lower end model, and is careful with the options, cars today are IMO not overpriced. Compared to 5 or 10 years ago, current vehicles offer huge advances in safety, driver assistance, and entertainment features. If new car prices are too expensive, one can always get a 2 or 3 year old used model. Whether our society has kept up in wage growth and general criticism of our social structure is another issue.
i miss the old #jeep @jeep cherokee reboot look! the split head lights from the blinker is a real nice touch and now they spoon feed the masses with the new one sadly enough!!!
Yeah, I can’t believe they would want the masses to prefer the new design. It’s so much cooler when less people like your design.
proud CX5 owner here :)
(Crosstrek) Regarding: "My struggle is it feels like a stopgap. It feels like taking a car that you should have bought the WRX hatch, hello Subaru, and make it into an almost CUV so that it can compete in this market" You guys do realize that the Crosstrek was announced in 2012 and came out as a 2013 model year right? If anything the Crosstrek has pioneered the small CUV category, not simply lifted an Impreza to "compete".
The current Crosstrek, though, came out in 2017.
With the Bronco Sport, Ford seems well positioned to compete in this sector.
Gracias!!! Fue un video bastante ilustrativo!
I l😍ve Mazda CX5
I get the two presenters, but chopping and changing is very off putting. It's also confusing as you don't know what car there in.
Could they not just pick a car each and review it first and then move onto the next, or compare each segment and then move on to the next segment, like interior, drive etc.
Honestly really choppy and takes away from the reviews to be honest.
If you watch it like the tv episode it is instead of multitasking it's actually pretty easy to follow along. If you have it on more as background noise then yeah, hard to follow.
@@phattyhales issue here bud it's not a TV show, plus even if it was I would dispute that to be honest. You never saw top gear, fifth gear or GT switching between cars on every part. Carwow do it well when they have more than 2 cars to review, it's not choppy.
Put 4 people in that Crosstrek with some gear and listen to that cvt moan while you try to get 60 in less than 15 seconds. A totally worthless vehicle for anyone who's ever driven over the speed limit.
Well the 2021 Crosstrek Sport has 1/2 a litre more displacement and 30 more HP. Heres hoping that it helps
Had it loaded up with wife, baby and all the shit that comes with it and did 400 plus miles while getting 39+ mpg at 75mph from CT to Maine. Have zero complaints about this car whatsoever
K J downhill the whole way?
Was thoroughly surprised myself. AC on and windows up.
Not really, I have the speeding ticket to prove it. Cruising at 80 mph with 4 passengers is no problem at all.
U guys didn't drive in the mud didn't drive on a icey road and didn't drive in the snow I drove the jeep and Mazda before buying my 2023 subaru crosstrek and wasn't impressed with them u also didn't drive on the highway with alot of traffic going 70-80 mph the jeep and Mazda felt big a bulky handling I just think all of u guys let us down on the test I'm giving u the same as the crosstrek last place on this review plus u guys didn't compare apples to apples u should of compared the subaru forester or outback to the jeep or Mazda for the jeep u should of compared the compass to the crosstrex more apples to apples my son has a mazda 3 and it's a nice car but it doesn't impress me its just like the cx5 in handling now I do give u guys this the looks of the cx5 I really like that's why when I test drove it I was very disappointed the sales man took me off the road in the Mazda on a trail and it didn't perform very well next time u do a comparison really go all out because honestly most people the buy vechiles like this go camping or live out in the country driving in mud driving on snow filled roads or icey roads where the plows don't get to much or the salt truck alright I'm done I'm just so mad at this review
Too much negativity in your reviews. The CX-5 drives amazingly and the parchment leather really makes it look like a $80K car rather than $35. The new now 2023 model is beautiful. I had a Subaru Crosstrek and have to say it drove great, but the cabin is so outdated. Not to mention they still use hard key for ignition.
You should do small pickups or Off roady SUVs
Subaru: Good Feelings, not much else.
Jeep: Big. Heavy. Expensive. Not great to drive.
Mazda: An 8 in all categories where other vehicles struggle to get to 8 in any area.
Sound deadening in Dodge is superior to subaru, and you have to pay for it at the subaru dealer. It's an underrated feature In my opinion. It's like turning up your volume to the max to hear someone over the phone in a subaru.
The Mazda is crossover from a mini van to a little all wheel drive station wagon. While the Ford Bronco Sport Badlands,Toyota RAV whatever they're calling it ,and the same for the Subaru are all Trailhawk wanna be's.They are all less capable off road compared to the Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk..That's right even more capable than the Badlands with the GOAT drive system. What is is that gets the Trailhawk such hate? If you want a luxurious compact CUV then buy the friken Mazda,if you want a CUV that deserves the term *Crossover* and willl outperform) ANY of the vehicles listed (off-road) then get the Jeep Trailhawk Edition Cherokee. Personally I love the 2014-18 look of the Jeep Cherokee and feel that in 2019 they caved to all the Jeep Wrangler snobs. Personally I couldn't wait for Jeep to make something that looks like it was actually designed in the 21st century😏 I was so done with the square CJ rolling brick/kidney shaker.
I've had it with all hate about the modern look of the 2014-18 Cherokee.🤬 I own a 2015 with the 3.2 pentastar 275 horse 251 ft lbs of torque. It leaves these other vehicles struggling off road. It has full underbody cladding and heavier springs and shocks a dual speed transfer case and a rear locking differential which none of these other vehicles have yes even the Badlands! I find the Cherokee trailhawk edition to be an incredible vehicle. Its ride and interior leave nothing to complain about. I have had zero issues with it in 50,000 miles and average 20 mpg around town and 26mpg highway with mixed mpg of 21. The tires still have 50% of their tread! Tire rotations,oil changes,cabin and engine air filters are all of the maintenance done to this vehicle.
Even the brakes have another 40-50k left on them! * In closing,if you want a luxurious mini van that looks like a CUV then by all means get the Mazda* ••If you want a B@||$ to the wall off roader/daily driver it's the Trailhawk😏
My Mother-in-law has a Crosstrek, and I must say, I don't like it at all. It has numb steering and handling, the engine sounds like an air cooled riding lawnmower (it makes a ton of racket when it is on fast idle when you start it in cold weather). The interior looks and feels outdated, and I guess it's the CVT that makes the car feel gutless. I had originally recommended either the Mazda CX-5 or Nissan Rogue instead, but she ultimately made a deal on the Crosstrek. To be fair, it is a stark contrast from my own daily, a Focus ST, and that is probably the main reason the Subie feels so utilitarian...
I agree that the Cherokee has come a long way, and hopefully it can correct some of the durability issues that previous Jeep products were known for. Not everyone has the money for an SRT Grand Cherokee...
Been a fan of you guys for years, a long-time subscriber. Thanks for the great content.
However, let's get something clear out of the way. These cars, as priced, are all vastly over-priced. 30-40k for a 4 cylinder and questionable transmission. Absurd.
The technology placed in these cars doesn't justify the astronomical prices. And quite frankly, the obsession of focusing on car technology with regards to the multimedia is useless.
The way cars are packaged with tech is the single biggest automotive industry problem. To get the better engine and/or transmission, you have to pay out the roof and add all these useless tech packages. None of these technology features (looking at touchscreen infotainment centers) require the cost that you are charged for upgrades. A $400 iPhone se is more snappy, responsive, and user - friendly than any of these infotainment systems. Which by the way often add hundreds to a couple grand to upgrade.
Why switch from the physical buttons and knobs of yesterday? Simple.
Repair costs. When that screen goes out, those repairs will not be cheap. How often do you break a button/knob?
In 5 years, all of these systems will be outdated and sluggish. Knobs, physical mechanisms - those will not. Another incentive to get people to buy new cars.
The emphasis on the multimedia/technology experience allows manufacturers to shift R and D away from important factors - engine, transmission, suspension, etc.
CVTs are - in general - atrocious. And the longevity of those transmissions compared to a 6 or 8 speed auto are questionable. CVTs are hailed as fuel saving - I'd argue the main emphasis is cost-cutting.
The only tech features I truly care about are safety. How much do you think a rear-view camera, blindspot monitoring, and those sensors really cost to develop?
I guarantee it's a mere fraction of what they charge.
Point is - the price of the modern everyday people mover is ludicrous. The emphasis on certain technology features allows bundling to be used to achieve astronomical prices for the desired configuration that most people want - engine, drivetrain, etc.
These cars, and in general your average daily driver, are best found in their near base form. The loaded variants are a waste of money.
If it were me, a base awd Cx-5 for 25-26k would be the way to go.
I appreciate the review as always, I'm merely frustrated at the modern-day price structure of cars.
Mark Leshyk and now that Mazda has put push button start, rain sensing wipers and all the safety features on their base versions of their vehicles is a win-win!
They don’t know anything about the Cherokee. It doesn’t have a naturally aspirated 2.0. THats a 2.4, 3.2 v6 and 2 0 turbo. And they called it a grand Cherokee. I’ll take a naturally aspirated v6 any day over a 4 cylinder or turbo.
Subaru crosstrek is a sub compact and you are comparing it to two other vehicles that are in the next class. The crosstrek should be compared to the kona, hrv, taos, ect..
Although I get it, it's interesting to me that when some people think Subaru they go to WRX. When I think Subaru, I think Outback, and things like the Brat before that. I think vehicle very similar to the Crosstrek.
I drive those roads frequently in those conditions in my Forester, which I personally feel would have been a better comparison for Subaru.
No you don’t want a Impreza i just traded one for the crosstrek which is way more capable in all most every way. Switch backs are the exception. No wrx. And it out sells the other two because it dose what it is build to, getter done pick up the dog keep the kids safe eat in the car hit the trail head and the drive way while driving through a blizzard. We are not on our way to the Opera we are living life in the real world and that is where the Crosstrek shines
As a factory trained CZ transmission rebuilder and trouble shooting, they use what is called "shift comfort". We would call it blending.
The new transmission have a learning ability and can change on driving habits.
The Crosstrek With The 2.5 is the Best!
Yes! I’m a mechanic and Subarus make me lots of money!
Professionally done!
These guys are overly snarky at times for the sake of being snarky.
earlier this month i put an order in for a '23 jeep compass, i think its a better look/deal/specs/etc
Jeep too expensive, CX-5 to small inside for what its supposed to be.
Crosstrek wins due to its intended purpose. Small, utilitarian hatch with awd and all the modern safety tech for under 30k.
My friend got the 2.0T in the jeep and put a tuner. It's quick.
This crosstrek don’t have eyesight? For $32k I expected it have eyesight…
Jeep Cherokee is the most luxurious vehicle in that lineup
Jeep rhymes with cheap.
If it’s Jeep it’s a paid sponsorship video. No car this sector gives you adventure. As they say.
Two years ago I test drove the 2019 Cherokee and CX5 among other compact SUV’s. I ended up purchasing a Cherokee with the 2.0 turbo and absolutely love it. I love the looks of the CX5 but it had a cramped interior, slow noisy engine, horrible infotainment and felt like a tin can. The Jeep was way more solid feeling and much quieter. Also, to get the turbo engine in the Mazda was $10,000 more than what I paid for the Cherokee.
U think that Mazda is a tin can while every reviewer, every owner says otherwise. Troll
@@Mrtellitlikeitis psh
This such a really nice review. Kodus to your team!
what a terrible review. You talk up all the appealing criteria and then throw it all out and pick based on engine power. People don't buy cars that way - especially women.
Quite confused by your comment. The CX5 does well here and it’s not because of power. This was long before the CX5 or the crosstrek got turbos and both did well in the end. And we recommend both in our podcast. We’re not sure what outcome you were hoping for, but thanks for watching anyway.
@@EverydayDriver I wasn't expecting any outcome when I started watching, but as I watched it, and you pointed out all the pros and cons of each vehicle, I was expecting you to select the Crosstrek based on your comments. Yet in the end, you thru all those pros and cons out and selected the one with highest acceleration. So all the folks that buy the Subaru in much greater numbers than the other two just stupid?
Illogical review. Why didnt you compare using the 2.5 liter in crosstrek and not the 2.0 .
Because it didn’t exist with the 2.5 until long after this was filmed.
Bla bla bla with Subaru but the engine is still the same cvt!
Great review guys! I would take exception to the parchment interior. I’ve had light/white interiors on my last 3 cars (BMW X5, Audi Q7, and TESLA Model 3) and never had any issues with them getting dirty to the point of not being easily cleaned...and that’s with two young boys aging through their pre-teen years playing soccer, through high school and playing lacrosse, fencing, wrestling, and ice hockey! I will say, I would almost pay money to see Todd put his hair in a man bun while driving!! LOL. You guys are adding to my homework now...I need to drive the Impreza since I don’t really need the lift part of it.
That was probably one of the least satisfying everyday driver episodes I have watched. You guys have become pretty predictable. I thought the CX5 was comparable to an Outback. How come there is never any mention of cost of ownership, reliability, longevity, etc..
There is no way for us (or anyone) to know the cost of ownership or reliability of a brand new press car provided to us with a thousand or so miles. Over time, that information is available and easy to be looked up. We like consumer reports for a lot of that. Thanks for watching!
@@EverydayDriver I see your point. You are just test driving for 1st impressions. Though these models often have earlier years, reputations, word on the street. Not sure Scottiy would advise anyone to by a Jeep - ha. Of course the Utah scenery is gorgeous, and some cars very exotic. But my favorite episode so far was the Alfa, Porsche and Lotus on Whitney Portal That time I was pulling for the Lotus. My cousin had one and I will likely never ride in a car that corners better Also when you compared generators of Miata, BMW, Porsche, very educational. Cheers.
Thanks for sharing this video, very interesting and informative video.
"You can put your feet on the dash."
No. Just...no. Don't encourage that.
This info is so antiquated once we get it on youtube. Confusing and deceiving. Do better for your youtube fanbase.
how so?
At 0:50 he says grand cherokee lol
You need the newer crosstrek, with the 182 HP to compare to a CX5.
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I feel Subaru are the real winners. They know the real reason people buy these cars. People just want a car on stilts. Subaru supplies them with that in the cheapest way possible (for themselves), and gets to rake in the cash. They know people are sheeple. I can't help but respect a genuinely smart business decision.
Now, where's my Volvo estate......
@jesuis baizuo Has any CUV ever actually been off road though?
@jesuis baizuo My point is I've seen all the excuses about why someone says they need such a car, but the only real reason I've actually seen, is so that people can be higher up than other motorists, so they can feel better than them. Irony is, because everyone is in one of these cars, no one is actually higher up any more.
@jesuis baizuo I was talking about CUVs in general....
all 4 cyl are slow
I own a 2018 CX-5 and I agree with all your points except I find that the seats are not comfortable on a long journey. I wish that the seats had more bolstering on the sides. The only other thing I wish is that it had paddles on the steering wheel as you mentioned. But otherwise the CX5 is a home run. It’s a great family CUV I’m not embarrassed to drive. Also- the price is right.
I don’t love the seats either.
I thought the same when they said that. Seats were unremarkable for me.
Such great content from this channel. Great work !
The CX-5 is nice...with the turbo. I think it needs it to feel right. The turbo also makes it more unique in the segment. Low power cars really aren't useful in the modern world. HP and driving speeds have universally ramped up where it seems more and more dangerous when you don't have 250 HP or more. It would be a different story if cars remained very light, but the ever increasing weight necessitates HP. I can't say I've liked Subaru for the same reason when they dropped down to the 2.0L size in the NA format. The Legacy with the 3.6L is great. The Legacy with the new 2.4L turbo is great. The Legacy with the NA is a dog. The smaller Impreza is a dog too. These cars felt only slightly peppy in the lighter weight earlier generations, but my old, old Forester made HP and torque and was lighter. In modern times, I can never buy a low HP car. It's either a 4 cylinder turbo or a V6, nothing less.
The CVT transmission really needs bigger engines. They work great. From an engineering standpoint, the CVT is about as ideal as you can get. And Subaru makes a good one. Paired to the larger 3.6L engine, it feels great and acts great. I works super well with actual torque behind it and an engine that is linear in response. When tuned well, it's stellar. I hate every automatic car I drive because it isn't as good as CVT. But any CVT paired with a small engine with no power will always be an annoying experience. It's not the CVT's fault. It's just that the engine is weak. I'm a manual guy. I have several and race manuals. But I will always happily buy a CVT because it is technically amazing...if it's programmed well and paired to a good engine. I will pick a CVT over any ZF auto with however many gears they want to package into it. It's just rare that a CVT is paired with a bigger engine. There's not many CVTs paired to V6s or even turbo 4 cylinders. A CVT paired to a big V8 is like a unicorn. There's only one vehicle that you can buy with a CVT paired to a V8. More brands need to embrace CVT, but more brands need to embrace bigger engines again and just do cylinder deactivation to save gas. Small turbo does not equal mileage, and small NA does but is so compromising.
I was in the market for a new vehicle, and my market were these cars and even the larger 3 row vehicles too. I also looked at mid size trucks because those too offer seating for 5 but also high utility. I liked the Cherokee. I almost bought one, but their reliability and deprecation was highly unknown. It just felt like a bigger sedan, especially on the non-Trailhawk version. The Trailkawk was just on a firmer spring, more up on its toes, and felt just a wee bit different. But other versions might as well have been a full size sedan, very natural feeling, intuitive, and well refined. The CX-5 turbo is interesting. I would never want the NA though. I avoided previous generations because of the lack of power. I like the CX-5 turbo, and they tuned it far better than the CX-9. The CX-5 is full and the upscale interior feels reasonably special. I've been a Subaru guy for over a decade, but I've never driven the new generation Impreza/Crosstrek. I went straight to the Legacy/Outback. I have old Foresters, and the new generations don't bring anything new to me. They don't interest me, and that's bad for Subaru. I liked the new styling of the Legacy (new, previous), and the 3.6L is a great engine, albeit underutilized (needs hotter cams and stronger top end to really be a fun engine). I've owned the Legacy for a short time, but it wasn't quite what I wanted. So I was on the hunt for a SUV again, possibly the Outback, but I was looking at everything. I was also looking at midsize trucks and test drove all of them.
At the end of my search, I bought a Honda Ridgeline. It's a vehicle that's at the same price point as the vehicles in this comparison, $30k to $40k. Plus you can get it in the SUV version in a 5 or 8 seater in the Pilot and Passport versions. This is a bigger vehicle, sure, but you're still in a similar market. I really find a better vehicle at this price and package of features. It has a V6 and a peppier engine than Subaru, similar to the Jeep's V6 but has a little more character to it. The interior is upscale but also utilitarian, a good mix of nice and utility and less extreme in this sense than Mazda or Subaru. The cabin is quiet, and the ride is smooth. It soaks up bumps extremely well, and it's cushy. But it also handles well, especially with the fancy rear diff with the iVMT (SHAWD) and torque vectoring. It's quick with good power. It corners very well and feel stable and well controlled. It's tuning is good with excellent balance and stability. Then you can hook 5000 lbs to the back and go cross country and still get over 20mpg. Want to know what mpg I'm pulling at 65mph down the highway? 36mpg...in a truck. I get mid 20s in city/mixed, and get 19-21 towing. It gets as good as my Legacy which had better aero. It rides better. It has the same tech (although Honda's adaptive cruise doesn't go to 0mph and crash mitigation systems are about half as good). It's better than the Cherokee. It's better than the Crosstrek. It's better than the CX-5. Honda is offering a better total package, and and it's the same price. There's really only one thing I don't really like, which is the standard automatic. It's...ok, but a pretty normal thing in a modern world of better stuff. The newer Ridgelines do now get a 9 speed ZF though which is probably about the same thing as in the Cherokee I would guess.
That's the challenge in all of this. The automotive market is broad, and there's a lot of overlap. Unless you're attempting to go to one feature or performance extreme, usually there's more than a dozen or two vehicles across several segments that all fit your wants pretty well. The best pick might not be the segment you're initially shopping. I was shopping in the segment as the three tested here, and I bought none of them. There was something better. In a segment that carries 5 adults or more, hauls stuff, does adventure well, brings tech, offers utility, and does it all in the $30k to $40k range, man, I'm hard pressed to ever pass up with Honda offers. The only caveat is that this opens the door to other vehicles too, bigger SUVs, trucks, etc., and part of this comparison is a purposeful adherence to smaller vehicles, to which the Honda is comparatively large and big for even a midsize truck identity. But $40k is $40k any way you spend it, so what's the best total value you can get for those dollars?
Dangerous if you dont have 250 hp? Seriously?? I drive an Impreza, and have never felt I was put in a dangerous situation by lack of power. Is it exciting--no. Do I wish it had about 30 more horsepower? Yes. But the power is certainly adequate if one drives sanely.
I own a Cx-5 and no other crossover compares to it but how reliable is the Cherokee? I'm interested in a 2nd car.
I have 90,000 miles live in Chicago. I have a 2016 3.2 v6 4x4 only. Front set of brakes 55,000, 1 battery 44,000, 1 fuel injector changed at 82,000 miles the rest just oil changes. Been pretty reliable
@@fallguy4209 Thats not too bad for being under 100k. How is the gas mileage?
@@dant3113 about 22-25 average but on a road trip I did 25 going 70 mph in 8th gear. It’s never hit 9th gear. I don’t think it’s possible
I come from a family of mechanics and I was told to avoid anything FIAT touches
Go with the Honda Passport.
I tested one...too big, too bland...too appliance.
You can have the 182hp 2.5 in the Crosstrek; problem is they come with Eyesight which make windscreen replacement(a yearly thing for me somehow) a 1400 buck affair, the air con compressor and evaporator will probably let go at around the 70 000 km mark and cost 2k to repair and timing belt which is another 2k affair at around 100 000 km. So, a costly car to own.
In any car you have to put money in it. It's a luxury to own a car in the first place. If you like Crosstreks, check my vids! :)
@@OutdoorFun01 Some are more dependable than other, Suibaru's are notoriously the least dependable, therefore costlier to own, of the Japanese builders. Thin paint, cheap material, ill fitting body panels, uncomfortable seat, finicky engine, expensive parts and known issues that Subaru won't fix are what you have to expect when you enter one of their dealers.
@@OutdoorFun01 Oh, and for most people in occident, owning a car isn't a luxury but a necessity.
The crosstrek uses a timing chain, not belt so it will typically last the life of the car. I’ve never heard of ac and evap core going out that quickly on any car, unless something else was going on with it. I will however agree with you on the windshield, I do not like the added “safety” feature that they added into the newer ones.
Bah! Everything cost something. I ad a 2007 Impreza, 2011 Legacy Sport, 2017 impreza, 2019 impreza and now 2021 Crosstrek. No regrets, never went in the shop for problems. Just normal care. My 2010 Mazda 3 was good too for 8 years. But wanted an awd. Did get me 189 000 km.
The 9Speed is a compact FWD transmission that has a LOT of gears crammed into a small package, it's been well documented why it shifts slow.
If you want a Manual then get the Jeep Compass, cheaper than Cherokee, great rear seats and has better colors
As a general rule, I can’t stand social engineering and Mazda ruined it for me because they dabbled in it.
So here’s the story. My Miata was in for warranty service and I got an Mazda 3 loaner. I was leaving work one day for my 70 mile commute home and noticed that the AC was barely working. This was aggravating because it was hot outside. I stopped to get a cold drink and some gas. Turns out, when you’re low on fuel, the car’s computer shuts off the AC to conserve fuel. As soon as I put fuel in the car the AC worked fine again so I read up on it and that’s what I discovered.
What if I’d been a single mom with two small children in the car baking to a crisp. It was about 90* with 80% humidity outside. With each model year of new cars it seems we’re all being herded into a “welcome to no choice” engineering. On principle, I can’t stand that.
Turns out my Miata does not have this feature, I checked.