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- Tesla Model S Plaid vs Lucid Air Sapphire - This is the one I buy and why
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I’d buy the Lucid Air over the Model S in general, I like how the Lucid looks more than the Tesla. That doesn’t mean that the Model S looks bad, it looks great too
It’s also almost double the price.
But it’s double the quality
@@tomaspiscicelli3288 That’s not the feedback I have been seeing.
@Johnathan Blake Anderson Personal friend or online?
Imo both are just as good, as the lucid allegedly handles preety good too and should easily destroys the taycans nurburg record
Tesla's design is really showing its age. The lucid looks like a spaceship
looks like a spaceship?? you know that design came from tesla, model S design is from 2013 dude. Open your pig brain up
Yap.. I'll buy quality
I use a tesla as my business vehicle....its a TOOL, like a powerdrill, nothing more, the car is not bad, but you simply don't LOVE a tesla, you just cant.
Teslas were never embraced as cutting edge design. They're pretty boring aesthetically.
@@TheAustrianPainter87 Not to mention the design was literally ripped off from Aston Martin Rapide/Audi A7… although much more boring and hideous.
The Lucid has such an incredible street presence. I see them frequently here in San Diego and they just have such a wide and intimidating stance. You can tell it’s heavy and powerful
Easy pick for me, I’ll take the Sapphire. Not only do I like the overall design of it better, it’s built much better (neighbor has the Dream edition and he let me check it out). I’ve spent a lot of time around Teslas and the quality just isn’t there. Also, blue is my favorite color and I love how the interior of the Sapphire looks!
Edit: The Model S is definitely a good looking car but I see so many of them and I don’t like that it still basically looks the same as it always has.
I hope I can sit in a Lucid one day. I have a model 3 and Tesla just doesn’t have the material quality or design to be a luxury car
250k tho
@Dimetri777
Fair, but those things personally wouldn’t bother me or impact my daily routine. Also, practically speaking, I wouldn’t buy either of these lol. I’d much rather buy an LC500 or Porsche Panamera Turbo!
@@rudyyyxu As Chris D’elia might say… No deeeennnts! S’all good! Life just keeps on rippin’ 😃
@@The1SSGrant for this money, one can buy a fun car and a house by the Nurburgring and can rip all day. With this lucid, you can’t even use the full power 99 percent of the time
Sapphire for me. The design, in and out to me is way nicer. Proper luxury and solid performance. If it can keep the long range, it’s a no brained for me... sapphire.
can it come with a transmission, a lot of us like to shift.
Omg that blue looks stunning on the Lucid Air Sapphire! I hope that blue makes it to the other Air models as an option. Those wheels look amazing as well
It won't it's specially made for the Sapphire
Lucid paints are great. My Air GT in Zenith Red changes color with the light. I can look black, Red, purple, or any mix depending on the sun and the angle. It really Pops!
I agree. If money was not a factor, Sapphire. However, for $250K and only 200hp more (maybe 100 more considering a plaid on a dyno puts 1,100hp to the wheels which is more than advertised) I just can’t see the value there. Brakes can be easily upgraded on the plaid so can suspension. The Yoke is the biggest irk for me though. I just hate that you can’t get a round wheel. I also prefer the higher refresh rate, resolution, and storage capacity of the Tesla’s interface.
Each of the Lucid engines can make 670 HP and 3* 670 is potential 2010 HP. They claim over 1200 HP so mabey about 1500 HP. Who knows.
Considering the Sapphire just beat the Plaid, a Bugatti Chiron, and a Ducati super sport bike in a quarter mile drag race, and the Bugatti is over 4 million dollars, $250K is a bargain for super-car speeds. I'm not saying it's not a lot of money. It is. But it's about more than just the HP numbers. The sapphire has significantly upgraded ground effects, brakes, suspension, tires, etc., and it has been lowered. All of those things together make it the fastest production sedan on the planet. Again, a bargain compared to what you'd have to spend to beat it, but I still can't afford one.
@@meadmaker4525 and to top all that off, it’s also a comfortable, spacious, luxurious family car; unlike any hypercar with similar performance
The Lucid looks like a proper, sorted, 2023+ model luxury sedan.
The Model S, along with the rest of Tesla's current range look very dated and 'half-finished' in my opinion; Sort of like Apple with the iPhone vs Android; Apple did the innovation and the groundwork, but now they just seem to be relying on their brand to keep everything going, whilst newer companies, and established ICU manufacturers very much start to overtake and surpass Tesla's range (as per a lot of android flagship phones with their features and function.)
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Yes, the Lucid is a better car. But it’s also a not insignificant $90,000 more than a Model S. $90,000 is the difference between a $30,000 Camry and $120,000 Mercedes Benz S Class. For MY money, I would take the Model S. But maybe skip the Plaid model so I could avoid the steering joke, I mean yoke.
Tesla’s quality “problem” is not a problem at all and I’ve learned that it is now vastly overblown after ordering and taking delivery of my own Tesla last year.
Model S design is 2013 and they did some changes and it's still comparison to the LUCID one. Lucid one is 2022 design and 100K more, what did you expect??? the fact model S can stand in comparison with a 2022 design speak volume
@@pitech4446 nah bro, it shows tesla''s complacency from being top dog too long. Lucid basically exists because some of the top tesla engineers got pissed at elon and left lol. Imo lucid is only going to get better and cheaper, while tesla lost the original magic and momentum, with even combustion car companies making similarly specced cars at lower prices. If you buy a tesla in 2022 you're basically just buying it for the badge.
@@charliewright2667 Lucid was founded in 2007, so nope. And the fact that they only started delivering their first car after 14 years tells you quite a bit about their momentum. As for Lucid getting cheaper, you did notice we are talking about a new more expensive model, right? The reason would be Lucid can´t make the cheaper ones without loosing too much money.
In comparing the exterior side profiles of the two cars to conclude the Tesla is more visually appealing, one important reason for the difference is overlooked. When I set the driver's seat in our Lucid Air Dream Performance to my preferred driving position and do the same thing in our Model S Plaid, the rear seat of the Lucid has 9.5" more front-to-back legroom than the Tesla. Whenever we're carrying more than two adults, we invariably take the Lucid. It's just the kinder thing to do. Plus the Air is almost as quick as the Plaid but handles better (with a front end that stays better planted under hard acceleration) and with a quieter and more compliant ride to boot.
The Sapphire. Easily. So gorgeous. And the specs beat Tesla where it matters.
Also Lucid has real climate vents, which definitely does a better job at blowing precise cold air into the cabin..
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Sadly I have to disagree. I absolutely do prefer the manual control of the vents and the parts feel high quality, but air flow in the all-glass cabin does feel less than ideal here in Texas in the summer. I'm a bit of a geek about that, having spent a career designing air flow, but if I pre-cool the cabin it is just fine... -ish.
Gotta disagree here. I own a 2021 Model Y and a 2020 Mazda 3 with traditional vents. The climate vents in the MY is pure magic. Does a tremendous job at cooling/warming the cabin RAPIDLY
@@Soh90 That is good to know, I had someone who has a Model S plaid complain that it gets hot in the cabin during summer
And the AC doesn't do a good job cooling the cabin, paired with a full glass roof which to a lil degree let's in some heat
So I had similar worries, because I've got a 2022 model X plaid in mind
So if more Tesla owners debunk this, it will relinquish my worries.
@@mannegar7650 I have a 2022 model S . Have no issues with the AC.
If you really want to get cold turn the ventilated seats to high.
If I'm being honest, the Lucid reveal was the most exciting thing about car week for me, or at least it was very close to RUF. The rest of the cars just didn't really hit me as hard, tho maybe that has something to do with the beautiful on the Lucid and the insanely good spec on the RUF
I’d go with Lucid every time !!!!!
The Sapphire is breathtaking. The Plaid is a good-looking car but lacks personality. That design was fine in 2012 when the Model S was such a breakthrough but not in 2022 when we have lust-worthy EVs like the Lucids, Polestars, etc
Both are undeniably great cars btw. I am talking about design.
what personality does the lucid have, unkown car brand with fancy high tech design,
half the cars in the chinese market that is
@@blazesmooth5573 Nah...none of the Chinese cars I've seen come close to the Lucid's efortless good looks. Neither do Tesla's designs.
"unkown car brand" I fail to see what this has to do with design but it is funny this "unkown car brand" managed to create a drive train that generates more power in a package that's 30 percent smaller than the Model 3, despite a 10 year lead from the later.
@@livelongandtroll9108 Because unkown car brands will come up with ridiculous design because of it's non existant history and folks such as yourself will claim that it has a soul when it's just the same as any other failed or continuing brand in the chinese market, it's just that this brand has seen the light outside china and is trying to make a name for itself the same way it does for the chinese,
it looks exactly like any other chinese concept just more believable I can send u 3 links of who the fuck knows what brands that have car's looking way better than a simple exageratted molten sedan on egg roof trust me.
Not to mention the last battery update we got from the model 3 was in 2019, 3 years ago.
@@blazesmooth5573 It is a bit funny that you keep trying to delegitimize them as nobodies when lots of people on Lucid worked on the Model S too. Their CEO was the Vehicle Engineer of the Tesla Model S and Tesla's VP of Engineering.
They have already proven themselves both by designing a sedan with great drag coefficiency and also an industry-leading drive train that generates more power in a package that's 30 percent smaller than the Model 3.
"it's just that this brand has seen the light outside china" They are not Chinese. They are California based. Shows how much you know.
"Not to mention the last battery update we got from the model 3 was in 2019, 3 years ago." The drive unit is not the battery, hun. It is the system responsible for delivering power from the battery to the wheels. The three main components are the electric motor, drive shafts, and transmission.
lucid is more like a box with wheels, and inferior software
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I’d get the new Karma, their design language is gorgeous
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The Opel Insignia Sports Tourer also had a large rear hatch, but the concern was that the engines failed in the winter because the hatch was large (the snow is heavy). Later they changed it so that some of the lights were on the side of the car and some were on the hatch.
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Lucid is just better even the luxury
Good choice, if you also considered the actual build quality and material.
Probably the Lucid because only the rare few will actually see one in person. Where i live, I see Plaids everyday and ive only seen one lucid ever
The Lucid Air Sapphire is limited edition and its much better in many ways!
The Model S has looked the same forever. New designs are starting to look far superior in my opinion.
if i could afford either id go with lucid as well
Tesla & Lucid are positioned to become the Ford & GM of tomorrow. Nice breakdown.
Lucid has a mad car design, I kinda wonder how would they make an SUV and a truck look
A quarter mil for the Sapphire?? I'll keep my deposit on the Tesla Roadster, thx.
The Lucid is way nicer than the Tesla, especially in the inside.
I love the interior space of the Lucid. But as an older person who grew up in the 80s, the lucid designs remind me of your older uncle's Jaguar from the 80s. Screams old guy car.
Normally I would pick the sapphire but considering the price, I’ll just stick with the model s
I guess you'd save a lot of repair costs with the Lucid
When you get to 6 figures, you buy the car you want not the car with the lowest price.... otherwise you can't afford either.
If you're debating the price stick to a Toyota
Gorgeous car, I like this color than the rest of other LUCiD EVs
More aggressive look 💪🏼
its reminds me of the blue test model s plaid that was at the Nuremberg ring
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the MVP in the videos. The cat😂
In terms of price, I’ll take a Dream and make it look like a Sapphire, the Air in general looks better, and more aggressive, more personality than a tesla
The first time I saw a Lucid Air 🙂 it had me thinking 🤔 this could be a modern take on the Dodge Intrepid 😃 and I still think 💭 it
thats funny, cause I think it looks like a modernized Saturn Ion
“It has enough space to fit a v8”
Rich rebuilds: hold my beer
how would the Model-S apex from unplugged compare? they are about the same price range as a Lucid
The lucid is much better looking and much higher quality which makes the price well worth it
How much groceries will each hold?
i like the headlights above the bumper on the lucid more, the taillights look nicer too on the lucid. The whole rear of the lucid looks nicer than that of the tesla. the area below the headlights look nicer on the model s plaid. the the right side of the upper screen hangs in the air in the lucid, that doesnt look sleek & harmonic like the fully framed screens in the tesla, i like the instrument board of the tesla model s plaid more for that matter. the right screen in the plaid is positioned higher, so the eyes are closer to the road ahead, better for traffic safety. the steering yoke looks better i think than a steering wheel, minimalstic and less clutter, i like that. how fast does the battery in that lucid charge, how much range does it has per charge? is the body of that lucid all aliminium like in the model s ? how durable and lasting is the lucid?
On price: when you get to 6 figures, you buy the car you want not necessarily the car with the lowest price.... otherwise you can't afford either.... Sapphire all the way
Plaid Model S did 213 mph before abruptly coming to a stop due to lack of run way.
These cars are so damn fast.
@Johnathan Blake AndersonThat was an exoskeleton car with completely stripped out interiors.
@Johnathan Blake Anderson not valid... lets see the production version 1st...K!?
@Johnathan Blake Anderson lol.... you dont know the difference? The plaid the hit over 216mph was not a prototype, but an actual plaid that any Joe can buy with the limiter software removed.... the car you are comparing it to is a prototype...not even remotely the same.
@Johnathan Blake Anderson vs. A non released prototype without verifiable specs.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🏾♂️...... love the goal post move
@Johnathan Blake Anderson 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️. It didn't change the car's out of the box capability....... get it? The daft don't. Again let's compare to a version of the air that a consumer can buy.... not a prototype AGAIN NOT THE SAME.... if you can't see that then you're a.... nvm you've proven that already....🤡🤦🏾♂️...ciao
Lucid is a bad azz machine 👌
Software. It’s the brains of the car. Only one choice.
Infrastructure. It’s the stomach of the car.
Only one choice.
Strokes the cat… “Have you heard of project Sapphire, Mr. Bond?”
Actually, Tesla updated the Plaid to now include diffused tail lights. Videos are on TH-cam.
Lucid Sapphire design is on another level. It's advance, modern, sporty beast. No comparison with Plaid.
Love the Tesla 🫶🏾 I’d go with the Lucid Air Sapphire 💙
Too many ppl in these comments commenting irrespective of price or never having owned and had to travel with an EV. The Plaid is way cheaper, AND has the supercharger network. I have owned EV’s since 2018 - if you haven’t owned one, you simply don’t know how important that is and I can’t even really explain it.
@@vickykennel7414 good news is you don’t own either lmao
Good review.
that Is exactly like a Subaru on the road in front of me when we were leaving at the golf ranch in Milwaukee
With the advent of airbags, they want your hands on the side or bottom of steering wheel.
Airbags break arms on top of wheel.
I love the Citroen-esque looks of the Lucid. However in Europe, the size and charging network makes it not so practical.
I prefer the Lucid's looks all around, but I think it should have been a hatchback.
I'd get the Roadster over the Saphire but neither are actually sold so idk.
All Lucid models outperform the Tesla Plaid on the track. I would love to see the Lucid Sapphire attack the Nurburgring.
I prefer the design of the lucid.
Saw a couple Lucid (regular) driving around this summer, the 3/4 and rear view with how the trunk is integrated just does not do it for me. For some reason, the rear reminds me of the Toyota Previa.
I have a tesla X with FSD beta and I use it in the city and highway all the time. It keeps getting impressively better. That’s indispensable for me in a regular car / daily driver. I have a super car for fun, but if I’m traveling anywhere too far I’m going to zone out and let the car drive me (much less stressful).
Edit: I also have the plaid S and love it, incredible car that’s almost too fast.
Apple and Orange comparison at a $100k price spread. You SHOULD like the Lucid over the Plaid at that price difference.
What do we enjoy 100% of the time in the car?
The comfort!
What do we use 0.001% of the time in the car?
The sprint with the best possible performance!
Lucid is more comfortable, much more beautiful, much better finish, much more sophisticated design, much better finish...
I would choose Lucid!!!!!!!!
The Sapphire is gorgeous
We need an after market company to make steering wheel tops for Teslas.
Good review! Both cars have their attributes, but if I could scrape together $250K to spend on a car I'd wait for the Tesla Roadster. I don't know if I'll ever get to that point, so I'm more than happy with the Plaid for reasons Bembli pointed out. Another thing to consider is proximity of the dealer/service department. At the present time Lucid doesn't have a lot of them and the vast majority are located in California. For me the nearest Lucid dealer/service department is almost four hours away (one of two in Texas), while the nearest Tesla dealer/service department is only 15 minutes away, and I believe there are about a dozen others in my state.
The big difference is the price… plus software but Tesla beats the lucid air in every category for half the price
Considering they both look awesome, go insanely fast and can seat 5, I would go for the fully loaded S Plaid... then with the remainder 90K difference I would buy a model Y for the wife, put solar on the roof and powerwalls in the garage. Job done.
Absolutely! I can get full solar on my house with 90k. Plus the supercharge network that Tesla offers is a major tie breaker. It took me until 2015 to buy my first model S because I want dual motor. Then, after 7 years (and not a single issue besides 2 recalls - the entertainment module and the front lock - and about 2K in tires. That's it!) I traded for the Plaid. Still having tons of fun with it. Can't imagine Elon allowing Lucid go faster so that will remain to be seeing what Tesla will come up with. The quality though is not that great. My new Plaid is WAY better than my Model S 70D but not as good as Lucid. But if I wanted quality, I would have bought a Mercedes EQS.
When u get to 6 figures, you buy the car you want, not the cheapest. Otherwise you can't afford either
There IS actually space under the Tesla bonnet for a V8.
Great analysis!! For me, it's no contest the Model S wins by a country mile and I have a huge amount of money left over. The S looks so much better exteriorly with the new update styling. I agree the new rear taillights look amazing. I do love the Lucid's interior better.
Lucid every damn day. Stunning car.
I hate the rear roof of the lucids. It just looks too "bubbly".
It depends on the angle you're looking at. In person, it looks gorgeous and looks just right. Designing anything to appear same as on screen as in person is not tenable.
Bembli: Tesla is really playing it safe with their design.
Franz von Holzhausen: hold my beer.
Sapphire 💯 It looks better, it’s faster and bigger.
if I had that much money and were looking for a performance electric car I would go all day for the Porsche taycan. yes the stats are not that good compared to these two cars, but the quality, handling, feeling, steering, and so on is just so much better. I also like the design better. and if I wand it to be practical as well I'd go for the taycan grand tourismo
Lucid looks like a modernized Saturn Ion -_-. Model S, although an old design, still looks incredibly aggressive, simple, and sleek. It reminds me of the C5 z06
Just because of the price I'd go for the Tesla but if you can easily afford it because you have ludicrous money I would go for the Lucid
Lucid has so much more to offer than Tesla. With the big exception. a neat FSD Beta if you're into that and charging network.
There is no comparison. Lucid is much better looking. More modern. I hate Tesla’s minimalist interior. It looks cheep. The only thing Tesla has over lucid is software and price. I expect lucid to be much improved with future downloads. I will be buying the air touring once they get a service center in the Nashville area. You did not mention the interior space deference especially in the back seat. Lucid has a true luxury interior!
I just don’t get why lucid didn’t go for a fast back design, it would look so much better than a sedan and likely be better for aero. I don’t like the EQS front but the back with a little spoiler is great
there's no debate. I'd take a base model Lucid air over a plaid any day. it just boils down to the fact that, even though it's an EV, the lucid has a soul put into it and the tesla doesn't. i couldn't drive the tesla and feel good about myself. yeah, of course i'd smoke everyone, but I would rather lose a race driving a fun car than win in a car that isn't fun at all
@Dimetri777 i get you too. While I’m sad to see a lot of gas cars go, there’s some serious new opportunities for companies to make electric cars exciting in ways that gas cars can’t. I agree with what you said about tesla’s build quality and demand, etc. they’re still relatively new, so hopefully they’ll mature and find a way to make their cars more emotional than a touchscreen on wheels.
Drive a plaid in track mode on a twisty road you will change your opinions(the brakes still suck but the chassis dynamics are fantastic) it's just a smidge worse than a taycan but very close and you can get UP brakes for a good price
@Dimetri777 Once you have over 400 miles of range, charging at home is practical for most people unless you drive more than 200 miles daily. People that do 50 to 100 miles a day can home charge reliably; just a topup. For the Sapphire, I imagine you can still get 300 miles of range with spirited driving.
@Dimetri777 I don't have a car yet, much less an electric car, but I feel for you. and I agree with tesla on some things- staying in the same place is kinda like moving backwards in car design- but you should have the intuition necessary to understand WHY things are the way they are on most cars. ahem, like having a steering wheel be... an actual WHEEL. and electric car infrastructure is just disappointing right now to say the least. i hope some major change happens soon, and electric cars will become not only more affordable but the infrastructure will be there too. sorry about your troubles!
The Lucid overall looks better imo, but it needs some work and a v8 under the hood.
5:13 lol someone did 😂
Lucid all the way.
Better looking
Probally more range
Better materials
Better build quality
More Power
Better driving dynamics
More Price?
@@sparkgrid more price for a better package
@@Guythatlivesaquietlife it all comes down to money, as always
The Tesla looks like a Mazda. The Lucid looks like a Dodge Charger. Gotta compare the Lucid to other $250k cars. It's a much better deal than any of those. Faster too.
*Faster to 200kmh in a straight line
@@broshido2745 True, once those boats try a corner its over with being fast
@@iwanbasalaew8117 the unplugged performance tesla plaid beat every other car on pikes peak. They are capable of turning with additional aero. Usually those other cars have the spoilers built in for more downforce. For long range you don't want added down force
@@Boomtendo4tw with extra aero, decated interior and racing slicks sure, even a 1000 hp civic would beat everything lol. Talk about their record at nurburgring, jajaja. Here, let me show you a GT63 AMG.
@@Boomtendo4tw Plus every other car in Pikes Peak are usually OTHER Teslas or lower end rally cars
If you are a risk taker and think that your car can be serviced and repaired for the next 3-5 years then Lucid still makes some sense. But the cost, super charging network makes it's value proposition weak and not worth the price it's offering. Just makes little sense to consider this car other than hating Elon or Tesla.
The Air Sapphire should have bucket seats all through
❤️I like the lucid cause it has a pretty name❤️
I love your cats
Sapphire for me
What I hate is that Teslas don’t look that much better the more money you spend on them. The Model S and 3 looks wise are roughly comparable despite a $50k difference
Although the lucid is a beautiful looking car ,I think still prefer the model S plaid for it looks. I just love the simple design of it all. Next year I’m actually getting the plaid model X and it will be customized. Quite nicely I might add they’re actually pictures of a customized model X ,they’re on the web. Oh another thing even after all this work it’ll still be cheaper than the lucid ,while being more functional. The lucid air sapphire in blue is absolutely beautiful.
These EV's as a whole need to look better there's only a few on the market that look good. Dodge Charger Banshee, Tesla Model S and X, DeLorean Alpha 5, Mercedes EQS, and Lucid air Sapphire.
Surprisingly the one critique I have about you as a designer is that you like imagination the lucid air is above and beyond it better designed and built car inside and out. For someone who’s an artist I did not expect your cookie cutter response to what looks better (not about the money) Low production hand built cars will always look better than mass produce ones
I can’t wait for grand truismo game to come out so I can drive the Lucid.
Tesla Model S looks like it could fit a V8 in there you say? RichRebuilds on youtube put a V8 in one he calls it ICE-T 😂
I'd actually go for the Lucid, I do like Model S, it's still their best looking model but the Lucid has a mixture of luxery and sportness that appeals to me, shame about the price tag.
I’ve had 4 Tesla starting g with P90D. I would likely get a lucid sapphire as a less minimalistic sweet alt
Still performs better than a Ferrari with half the price tag.
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Risky to buy lucid. What happens if they go bankrupt? Very few cars sold would be very hard to get parts.
Only safe is to lease. The risk is then on the leasing company.
@@Unknown-account3 the biggest shareholder of lucid motors owns 2.4 percent.
For me it would be very risky to buy a car you might not be able to get parts for.
I bought a model S three months ago much safer bet.
The cat 🐈 is a cutie