I HATED my Tesla Plaid... so I sold it a month after buying it
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2022
- I'm no longer a full blown libtard, sold the Tesla for a couple reason. This rant goes over the most annoying of them!
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I did say buy the Taycan 😂 🤷♂️
It’s coming 🫠
I can't because it's taycan
Never really understood why the Porsche guy bought a Tesla. Teslas are cars for people who aren’t car people. Especially when you are used to Porsche quality.
@@kosteaproduction 🤣🤣🤣🤣lmao
Teslas are fisher price appliances with wheels
This guy sounds like a person who makes good impulsive decisions in life.
THANKS FOR THE LIFT BRO!! 🔥 I loved my X, but lot of valid points on the build quality and interior lack of luxury.
@@kosteaproduction Just subscribe/resubscribe and hit that notification bell. Problem solved. 😎
This is an appeasing comment
If someone buys a Tesla as a "Luxury Car", they failed to do their research prior. I bought my MX Plaid for the performance! I had a Model Y and it was awesome but I wanted a daily driver that does 9 seconds in the 1/4 mile and beats anything on the street down in Mexico.
@@ivegoneplaid You won't be beating anything in Texas tho buddy 😂
@@wolfgangbarrio5043 on the street, nothing except for maybe a SF90 beats Plaids as the other cars don't have traction on the street from a dig.
I remember this guy
lmao
Cool max comment 😎
Do you tho? 😂
Something else I didn’t mention in the video, the customer support was an absolute joke. Getting the car into service was a nightmare on an app that wouldn’t let me submit all the issues. Followed by an hour wait to drop off the car since there’s only 1 human at the service center. Also no loaners, a $50/day Uber credit is all that’s offered while the car is there for issues from the factory.
You spend $150,000 for a car and get worse customer service than a $25k Toyota.
Again I think Tesla is a great company and the cars are pretty clever. But they’re not ready for the $100k+ market in my opinion 🙃
At the same time they offer mobile service which was a game changer for me…
Tesla quality and customer service are atrocious
what if it's winter and they can't work on Tesla in your driveway ?@@deanh891
To be fair though the plaid smokes most super cars (0-200) for a fraction of the price
Teslas are big batteries and a car thrown around it. Big reason why they have great numbers but the ownership stinks.
I used to hate road trips. With my Tesla I almost always drive now. I like stretching while charging and then using autopilot makes it very comfortable for road trips.
I can’t drive with my knees is a wild criticism 😂😂😂
Its so strange how much people care what car people drive, what phone or what OS people use. Can't belive people using this or that care is affecting someone else's life that much.
Just spent 10 days with a 2023 Model S on a 14 hour road trip. This was my first longer experience with a Tesla other than test drives. I’ve driven all kinds of cars from normal cars to McLaren’s and Lamborghini’s…and I was not sure what to expect road tripping in an EV. Range anxiety went away pretty quickly and stopping for 15 or 20 min a few times along the way was not a big deal, and actually enjoyable. The autopilot was phenomenal. The only gripe was that once I got to the destination the closest supercharger was 30 min away. If I was able to charge at the place I was staying that would have been much easier. All that said, I took this road trip to help me decide whether to buy my own, and I will 100% be buying my own plaid in the near future.
I think the value you get for a 90k plaid is unmatched. Wickedly fast. Amazing tech, and just a lot of fun.
With rampant car thefts that are getting more violent, the best thing about the Plaid S is that it won’t get targeted for theft because the places they ship stolen cars do not have the infrastructure to use them (not to mention even if they did, you could kill switch your Tesla). That peace of mind is absolutely a huge advantage over every other $100k plus car.
“A miata handles better than this” yeah one of the best handling cars of all time handles better than a heavy ass rocket? Lol bruh…
Miata is always the answer
yeah what a bad comparison
He only said that because the Musketeers think Teslas handle good.
@@hasangenc2922 they handle wel compared to every other EV except maybe the Taycan
@@cerealkilla4eva wrong lol, the Polestar handles good, even the POS Mach E handles okay.
Thanks for telling it like it is, Joe. I've had a Model S for 7.5 years.
I bought a 2023 Plaid (standard wheel on 19's) with 4k miles for 72k and it serves it's purpose. No build quality issues but the interior leaves a lot to be desired. My 2022 Q50 Redsport blew it away and my Hellcat is more comforable. Both feel more nimble than the Plaid, expecially the brakes. As a daily in the midwest, I'm overall happy with it.
Looking at a Model Y Performance for my wife to replace her 2022 QX50. Already seeing the same trade offs.
You got a good deal
@@bennippert4482 it had been sitting on a lot for 8 months, was about to go to auction.
Great vid. Some things I want to correct. All Teslas come with autopilot for free, which is adaptive cruise control. Full self driving is the $12,000 software. The safety score can’t kick you out of the beta it can only accept you in, the requirement is 90. Only way for you to get kicked out is for you to be on your phone or not touch the wheel for 30secs-1min on 6 different occasions.
$15k now for FSD, but I do have to say if this guy didn’t know these basic info, it may explain why he traded in the Tesla so quickly. Plain ignorance.
@@IRLSuperb or he could get FSD for $200 a month. If he gets the Taycan he is an idiot. Pay $180k for 250 miles or range with a terrible charging infrastructure. The Plaid actually stops quicker than the Taycan from 70mph by 5ft. The Taycan might feel like it is stopping better because it is slow as hell.
@@juanmedinar20 who cares, being seen in a Tesla is embarassing, no one wants to look like a fatherless Musketeer
@@origaminefretami3480 haha says you. Tesla is the best seller in many countries because people are embarrassed to be seen in one lol. Great logic troll.
@@juanmedinar20 Yeah, we live in a time where people drive around in cars with masks. Alone. And Nicki Minaj is highly successful.
See? In a world full of NPCs, popularity doesn't mean shit. Just check the comments, lots of fatherless Musketeers here.
I‘ve been in multiple Model S‘ and can say the build quality is no where near my 35k Audi… Like you said - everything rattles or creaks smh
That would be the same Audi company responsible for sudden acceleration and causing deaths and injuries and whom never took responsibility for their faulty idle control unit. Fun fact. I had the Audi 5 cylinder 2.2 liter engine in my VW Quantum. I experienced sudden acceleration in which the car tried to force me into a brick wall, and then tried to drive me through an intersection. In both cases I quickly moved the gear into neutral and then shut down the car. The mechanic at VW acknowledged it as a recall on the idle control unit. But the company never accepted blame. Ergo it’s tough for some of us to wish to patronize Audi.
@@drdave3676 sudden acceleration is a Tesla feature.
@@hasangenc2922 invented by Audi based on a faulty idle control unit. Get your facts straight. No sudden or unintended acceleration on a Tesla nor most any car.
@@drdave3676 Sure. And you're not a Teslasimp. Get your facts straight.
@@hasangenc2922
Legacy simp
I'd love to see you buy a project vehicle and post progress videos. A 6.0 Powerstroke (if you're a glutton for punishment lol), an old hot rod to restore, maybe even a classic import. Been a long time viewer and love the content, but just mentioning that it would be cool to see sometime in the future. Great work as always 🤘
6.7 f450 dually build
Thank you. I had a model S in 2016 for 4 months and when I traded it for a Audi s7 I felt a like a massive anxiety was lifted of my shoulders. I was back in a normal car. I have a coworker who had to do a 600 mile trip with his daughter in a model 3 and now he’s regretting his purchase.
The coworker part makes 0 sense... Road trips is where the Tesla products shine even more... Really makes long road trips so much more enjoyable.
??? audis break down more often lmao
@@xrpo.g6855 Sure, but your simping makes sense.
I own 2 plaids and I agree with this video. Quality isn’t there at all. The speed is. But there is more to a $150k car than a speed. Although the handling I’m confused about as it beat the bmw m5 cs and Cadillac. 😅 making it one of the fastest in the bends.
It really depends on the track. The Model S always had terrible handling but the Plaid is now so overpowered it can save time out of corners and straights.
I agreed with you 💯. I took delivery of LR MS last month with white interior for 98k ( current price 108k)
I mostly hate the yolk & horn. lots of rattles including swivel center screen..all now fixed. 70k is ideal price for LR MS imo. I'm contemplating selling too at 2500 miles
Dang that’s crazy that the car is less than 80,000 now
Get a Taycan if it has to be an EV, not this cheap Eloncrap.
Good review bro! Most important note for me was the "buck for the bang" factor... Nicely conveyed 👍
Grumpy Joe ranting is probably some of my favourite content. Great video, joe!
Thanks for a dose of reality amidst a sea of Tesla Kool-Aid slurpees. Technology advance aside, the main point is basic things like fit and finish of Teslas are simply unacceptable in cars of Tesla's $65K - $150K price range, period, let alone poor interior materials. Honda would fire the entire manufacturing line if their $25K Civics have these basic rudimentary fit and finish issues. And I see many commenters saying "mine if fine" but they cannot deny the number of "mine is not fine" buyers out there. For the thousands of Nobel and PhD genius Tesla hires, maybe they should hire some good manufacturing people. What other car companies where new customers come to pick up their car have to run their fingers to detect panel gaps?
It doesn't matter if the doors aren't aligned well....americans and Teslasimps will buy these cars anyway, its their whole personality.
Love how your just keeping it real man. Ready to see what’s next
X5m
I just did a long trip from Ohio to Hilton Head and had ZERO issues. I love my Model S. It’s not perfect and many of the issues you mention are accurate. But it’s still a wonderful & fun car
I have model S dual motor performance ludicrous 2019 model & I love it & have none of the issues mentioned in your video.
I feel your pain, I just lost $160 on concert tickets
Wow, did not expect the Plaid to have any rattles or creeks. That would totally piss me off and drive me crazy! That sucks
I’m picking one of these up when they’re in the 50k range. What a value! I hope people keep hating so me and my baby can be together.
I agree with you 110%!! I currently own a new model S 2022 picked up in January 2022. I have a laundry list of service requests completed. Please read this current model s owners. About a month ago I noticed three protruding dents on the drivers side to the left of the roof glass. I received so much run around with service that after three visits the master service tech walked the lot and almost all model s long range and plaids were noticed to have small dents pushing upwards on the roof to the left and right of the roof glass. Mine were sent to dent wizard for removal but others may notice this. Totally manufactures defect.
Great video, the road noise is it really as bad as I can hear? Seems insanely bad the road noise from the tires or is it the road?
It was insane! Less road noise in the Raptor on 37”s than the Tesla. I’m sure it’s mostly since there isn’t any engine noise to mask it, but it was 100% as bad as it sounds on video. Holding a conversation on the phone on the Highway was a challenge 😅
Among the best and most honest channels.
I feel you man. Driving my 3rd model S now but, this will be the last one.
Why did you buy 3 of them then?
I test drove one with the yoke wheel and it sucked.
Great video bro. I'd never get a plaid just because of the yoke and price tag and don't use it for racing. I picked up a 85 RWD Model S 2014 last year with 54,003 miles for only $27,800 and I love it.
Y not just get a brand new model 3 for 10k more
@@AidenRZ777 I love the look of my s compared to the 3. I love having 2 modules instead of just the 1 the 3 has. I love the built into the dash portrait screen instead of the landscape screen that looks like someone bolted an iPad to my dash. I love all the extra cargo space in my s. I love having a hatchback and being 6'7 I love all the extra legroom. Also 3's are a dime a dozen here in Cali and my s stands out way more than the 3 does. There isn't 1 thing I like on the 3 compared to the s.
It’s okay to NOT like something that others like. Many don’t seem to understand that concept these days. Everybody has different tastes and standards. I’ve driven a Tesla and didn’t like it either. All is well.
Its not allowed to critize Teslas. Not politically correct. If you wan't to be woke, you gotta love Tesla.
Wow, so essentially everything I heard was wrong with Tesla 4 years ago is still a problem today. What a bummer.
The fanboys still buy them anyway
except thats not true, all of their cars build quality has improved. there will always be exceptions.
@@ogzombieblunt4626 improved, but still bad. Totally Tesla. The fanboys will still buy them, so thats not a problem for them, they would buy a Plaid with 3 wheels too.
@@hasangenc2922
Lol says a guy who hasn't owned multiple teslas since 2016
I love this guy's sense of humor. You got a new subscriber from me, mate.
“the build quality in this thing” *taps around*
sounds solid
The sound isolation alone tells you this car is junk.
The rubber on the door panels of this brand new tesla in a show room look like they where rubbed on the concrete for a good 10 minutes before installed on the car. Looked jagged with all these rubber flakes worst build quality I've ever seen.
2:59 Thank you this is exactly why I don't mess with tesla or mophar like for that same money the other Germans and Japanese/Korean cars are way better with tech and luxury
Woow, this is the first video/review that I think has all the valid points I always thought. Thanks for your honesty.
Great vid! I’m not at all a car guy but i did just get a C8 and love that thing! First time seeing this ch. great job
BMW next then?
M5 >>>>>>
finally a non biased american telling the truth , other thing i have noticed is that people wich buy and like the tesla usually never owned a german luxury sedan like s class or 7 series . i get it its fast but you wont be driving fast all time , actually more than 95% of the time driving it will be in comfort and a normal drive , and during that time you have a boring car with terrible quality build.
True, its mostly americans that hype Tesla for obvious reasons.
Yeah, Tesla quality is just shit. I've had mine for a month and between paint bubbles, stains on the white interior, gaps in the moulding, and rust specks captured under the clear coat. If they don't replace the car I'm going to corporate.
I drove my buddy's Plaid, and aside from the acceleration, it was a boring car to drive.
As every Tesla. The Model 3 P i drove was funny for half an hour, after that its boring as hell.
I would go crazy bying such an expensive car is just rattling. I would go mad! My Toyota Auris is not rattling at all, and its like 18K.
The 2004 Buick my grandma gave me had less rattles and road noise than this 150k Tesla 🙃
@@JoeKnowsBest my tesla model 3 has no rattles whatsoever.
Agree with all the build quality stuff but a hard disagree on charging. I live in the east coast and charging is a breeze. You get 300 miles on a charge not the 100 u quoted
Ditto. I road trip from NC to NY every other month. I actually prefer an EV for roadtrip. Comes down to the individual sure but that 9 hour trip only adds an hour and 15 minutes of charging on my route.
Curious on your thoughts about the Rivian R1T/S
Thanks for sharing your experience.
I have a Model 3 SR and Model Y performance. Agree with everything you said and more. I've always said these are 50k cars at most. As for the acceleration, yup. I show off to friend a few times and never use it again that way. Also, the safety features are total crap. Lane departure is useless. Sounding off when there is no issue and not when I should hear it. Slow speed collision avoidance sucks too. Visual autopilot turns the wipers on during a dry heat wave for no reason. (Yes, my car was clean) . The RANGE is a total joke. Realistically only 2/3 the stated range. There is a reason they bury the trip odometer two menus deep. I have solar and I charge the car at home, so I have zero cost for energy. But as soon as other manufactures get their act together on EVs, I'm done with them.
Get ready for some hate for your honesty.
@@wolfgangbarrio5043 I do like driving it. But it is far from the perfect piece of tech everyone seems to believe. If there are options, I won't get another.
When people ask why I bought a Taycan instead of a Plaid, I'm just gonna send them this video. 100% agree with your points.
But plaid is faster bro, and muh doggy daycare mode.
@@Redditor6079 HURR DURRRRR FASTER
@@Redditor6079 taycan is faster in corners it’s more important
@@CLSTRN911 and Taycan has some sound isolation inside lmao
Try to take a road trip😂
As an owner of a Model 3 Performance these are all great critiques. The build quality is fair enough to me got my price, but I fully agree for the price of the S plaid.
Current price for a model S with round steering wheel in any color is $89,990. The yoke is now an extra cost option. The long range model S is now $74,990. From 70 mph the stopping distance is 150 feet which is better than most luxury cars. The downside is they overheat with multiple stops or stops from very high speeds.
As someone who lives down the street from the Tesla factory, I can attest to the lack of build quality.
Fair enough, sounds like you got a Friday build, it happens. Rattles and squeaks would drive me crazy. My experience has been very different. I got my Plaid at the end of August and the only car I’d realistically consider trading it in for is the Roadster if it comes out. There is one minor rattle with a plate under the movable display screen, barely hear it over the radio, I’m not in a great hurry to get it fixed. I think the yoke is fine, the only issue I have is I think the horn should be in the center. I have a house in Oregon, bought the Plaid there (no sales tax!) and I already drove it over 2,000 miles to my other house in San Antonio. I thought the Plaid offered a better driving experience than my diesel SUV that gets over 700 miles on a full tank. There were lots of superchargers along the route and I really didn’t need more than 20 minutes of charge to get me to the next supercharger. Autopilot makes a huge difference in a long drive. In the end it was $100 cheaper to drive the Plaid compared to my SUV which gets 31 mpg. The Plaid’s driver’s seat is very comfortable to me. It’s my daily driver and like you said the one pedal driving is great. Exterior build quality could be more precise in a few spots. I found no fault with the interior.
I have owned a 2018 model s p100d since new. No rattles at all. No issue charging it - I just like charging it for free which is a little harder.
No major issues and have never serviced it…
I like the white interior too. Think it looks hot.
Own a Porsche 911 and skyline GTR too.
I've driven 50,000 miles in 2 years with my Y. Most of which has been road trips without issue.
Subbed, shared, notifications on and commented. Respect.
Get an M5, leave this Teslastuff behind
Hey I know you’re more of a car channel but I really loved your tech videos from true past! I’d enjoy some new tech/coding content!
Model S looks amazing, but yes the build quality is horrible… Really sad ☹️
Replaced my 2020 Skoda Superb 2.0 Diesel with a Model Y 6 months ago.
Damn I miss my Superb - comfortable on freeways, lots of range (>1600km in summer / >1200km in vinter) and amazing Matrix LED headlights to name a few things…
I have a 2010 E60 550i and a 2018 Model X 100D, bought the X cause family was working there at the time. I drive a lot for work, currently 110k miles driven. I can do mileage deprecation, that played a big role in me keeping the car, car also has free supercharging for life. My E60 is much better car, personally the basic things are what disappoint my in the Tesla ex. headlights, switchgear, dimming side view mirrors (this actually pisses me off the most, they are so bad). The suspension and braking is atrocious compared to my E60. IMO the only Tesla model someone should consider is Model Y, all of the engineering effort is being spent on that car and it shows. The single piece castings, make a huge difference in build quality. The pricing is still kinda wack, but it’ll come down fast next year as the Austin factory ramps production and EV tax credit. The flagship EV Sedan is the Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo, EV SUV is the BMW iX. BMW iX is arguably a better EV than the Taycan, they did an incredible job.
I bought a model 3 performance and I love it lol. Sold my camaro ss and zero regrets so far. I'm trying to obtain a c8 as well.
Honestly question here. you don`t ever miss the sound and vibrations of a V8 engine? Of course the Tesla is faster.
@@Mike-dd8bd I have 5 days with my model 3p. As of now I don't miss the sound. I miss the 2017 camaro more because it was my first car and it went through all the early ages of my life (high-school, university,1st tech job, socal, central valley, bay area).
My wife and I won’t ever drive another brand besides tesla. We’re not musk super fans like the crazies out there. I kinda can’t stand him. But the product, nothing can beat. This review is dishonest to you guys.
felt tbh. I drive a model s p100d, but I feel you on the interior build quality. tbh I bought this car for the performance tho, which is indebatably good, but for a daily it's pretty average.
when it was listed at $119k I was on the fence, since then I went ahead and ordered Rivian R1s. Maybe lower power output at around 900hp tri motor.. basic steering wheel and I think it will be a better deal at about $110k
I had a tesla model s. It was a pos. Built quality is trash even my sisters model x is 💩
Are you going to buy the new 992 911 GT3 RS? I love that car!!
You might be surprised that I'm a Model S Performance driver and enjoyed and subbed after watching this... i'm not offended by the gripes, they're legit. But I do feel differently... I love my Model S despite some minor flaws. I came from an Audi to my Model S and the build quality and material quality is lower. However, my Model S doesn't rattle and maybe since my version is a 2020, i don't experience the yoke issues nor missing turning signals. My model has the older interior which after almost a decade of production, has a little better fit and finish. Also, one KEY cog in my perspective, i bought my Model S used... 35k miles, practically brand new... but half the price of new. Evaluating my car as a 55k car drastically changes your expectations. All that being said, great video, interested to see where this channel goes.
I loved the "Come at me bro, I'll destroy you" comment in the beginning... LOL
Even as a big Tesla fan whos owned a 3 and Y for the last 5 years, the S/X series are simply not worth it. I paid $60k for my Y and it has basically every feature of the S Plaid, except is a bit slower. Like a lot of people have said, how often am I really going to use the 0-60 speed that beyond the 4.0sec 0-60 in my Y? The 3/Y are absolutely worth it and will continue buying them as long as the price doesn't keep going up. The S/X aren't on the radar.
Agreed. It's cool, it's a bit fun, but fok man the build quality vs. the price makes your heart sink a bit
Do you not feel like most of the cabin noise would go Un-noticed if there was a combustion engine ?
This is why I bought a prius. I did my research and realized that a tesla is not worth it in the long run. It's been 6 months and I'm happy for the decision I made.
I'm sorry that this car didn't work out for you. Aside from the car not living up to your expectations for the price point, it sounds like the car didn't fit your lifestyle. I regularly drive 160 - 200 miles in a given day and drop and pick up my 2 kids from school - my Model S Plaid has been perfect for that. I need storage space (to carry the kids' bikes, etc.) but don't like the high center of gravity of an SUV, so a sporty sedan is really the only daily driver that fits what I'm looking for. I've had a Lexus IS-F, Panamera GTS, Guilia Quadrifoglio, BMW M3 (F80) as daily drivers and the Model S Plaid has been my favorite. I had a Model 3 Performance prior to the Plaid and while I don't think the Plaid is worth the money over the Model 3 Performance (I don't think it is 2x as good), I think the Plaid is a much better car (faster, more range, nicer interior, roomier with a hatch, air suspension, more exclusive, nicer exterior with the 21" wheels, etc.) and I wouldn't go back to a Model 3 unless I needed to for financial reasons. For my commute, I can comfortably do a round trip without supercharging. I've only charged the Model S Plaid on a supercharger two times in the 11k miles that I've driven it whereas with the Model 3 Performance, I had to supercharge several times a week (the real world range on my Model S Plaid is 270 miles, it was 200 miles on my Model 3 Performance). With that being said, I don't consider the Model S Plaid to be a luxury car and recognize that I paid for technology, which really can't be compared in an apples to apples manner with an ICE vehicle. It is not a car that I've taken to cars and coffee or car meets as I don't see it as that type of car. However, I've commuted in my 911s and will take the Plaid for daily duty any day over them. I look forward to seeing your new car! I always look forward to your videos!
This makes sense. I’m currently in a position where I own a Model 3 Performance and have a Model S Plaid with 19’s on order (EDD is currently 11/16 - 12/28). My Model 3 recently made involuntary contact with a deer at a high rate of speed and will be out of commission until at least January. However, I’ve been driving an Infiniti Q50S over the past week since I hit the deer, and I must say, it’s such a relief not having to worry about charging. when going to see my business partner, who lives about 75 miles away, I usually have to charge the 3 at least once at a supercharger and it sometimes feels like a real inconvenience. I went with the 19’s specifically for durability and range (I live in Maine, the roads suck and the winters are cold) hoping to avoid that supercharging stop. I’ve owned Tesla’s for the past 3 years. Anyway, I can go on, but the bottom line is, I’m very conflicted. Not sure if I want to cancel and go with a Porsche Panamera E-Hybrid.
@@j.r.f8381 Sorry to hear about your Model 3. For what it is worth, my Model S Plaid has the 21" wheels and even with driving faster on the highway than I did with my Model 3 Performance (15 mph+ faster cruising speed), I'm getting 70 miles more real world range. The Model S Plaid encourages higher speed driving on the highway. For my 160 mile round trip commute, the Model S Plaid is perfect for me and is one of the few cars that I actually want to keep because there is nothing I want to replace it with (I have other cars for other purposes). With that being said, I'm a fan of the Panamera and the E-Hybrid variant and think you'd enjoy that as well. Are you ok with buying a used car? Pricing of used Model S Plaids sold by Tesla (and in general) have come down significantly in the past 2 months. If I were in the market now, I would go used and save some money. If you buy from Tesla, you get an extra year of warranty after the factory bumper to bumper warranty expires.
@@TheLifeofJoeLee thank you! It’s funny you mention purchasing used, as I was thinking about it today and saw one with the white interior/19” wheels which are my two non-negotiables. I thought about it briefly and quickly abandoned the idea, as it had 20K miles on it and was only about $15K less than my current configuration. I mean, it’s nice to save that money, but 20K miles is also 20K miles. And I really like the new taillights and headlights. My personal experience with Tesla covering anything under warranty is 0 for 2 right now so their warranty is meaningless to me as they have not stood behind it for me. It doesn’t help that my nearest service center in Massachusetts seems to be staffed by mostly really young kids (late teens/early 20’s). That wouldn’t be a problem if they were properly trained but it gives me the impression they’re all just winging it. Okay, despite all my grievances, I really do love Teslas. Similar to you, I have owned tons of cars and nothing really tops the Tesla. So many things about it are just easy and make sense. Ultimately, I do not think I will regret toughing it out with the Infiniti for the next few months and take delivery of a brand new MSP. For me, the other factor in owning a Tesla is autopilot. I never realize how much work it does until I have to drive the old fashioned way, especially for any significant distance. Again, Tesla making life easier. I am curious, though, what SOC to you usually arrive home at after your round trip commute? Also, have you noticed any uneven tread wear on the inside of the rear tires with the 21”s? Thanks in advance, you’re very helpful!
@@j.r.f8381 I too have found autopilot (I'm currently running FSD beta) to be very helpful, especially when I'm sleepy or distracted - it has allowed me to be more productive in my car without having to worry about being a risk to those around me. I also enjoy listening to music in Teslas more than any other car that I've owned. For my commute, I typically use 30% charge each way (80 miles) and lose 3 - 4% during the day. I leave the house with 90% charge and return about 12 - 13 hours later with around 26% charge, 23% if I drive to get lunch during the day. I drive pretty fast and don't mind that I'm using more energy to get to my destination faster. I drove in the pouring rain today which used more energy that usual and also did 30 miles of local driving with multiple stops after I had arrived at my office for a total of 190 miles. I started my day with 90% charge, got to the office with 56% charge, left the office (accounting for 30 miles of local driving and usual drain from sitting) with 45% charge and got home with 14% charge left (13 hours later). I check the inside of my rear tires on the weekends and haven't noticed them wearing more than the center of the tire.
I spoke too soon. My passenger rear tire separated at the inside edge today with 15,608 miles on the car. The tread looks fine otherwise. Leading up to this, I was inspecting the tread and not the tire edge.
Can’t wait for the x5m video bro 😂
I appreciate all the all the information & honest opinion, because like you said it is a big investment just to go fast
How dare you critize Tesla???????
Joke, get a Taycan, or an M5, even better.
get a taycan.... simple effective and better than a Tesla...
When I ordered a Y in August of 2021 the base price for a long range was $54k. The cost/benefit analysis makes more sense for that car and at that price. The S is harder to legitimize.
Id pay 30k max for that shitbox
Taycan Turbo S is better. I sold mine as well, made money.
I got rid of my Porsche for tesla. No regrets.
A 150k car rattling like that? I'd be fing pissed
Not a fan of the Model S in general (have driven 2 for extended periods)... They definitely felt too large and clunky... I do however own a Model 3 Performance and absolutely love it! Drove cross-country from Oregon to Florida with no issues at all... If you can live with 3 second 0-60, I'd definitely recommend it! Still enough to make your eyes hurt when you put your foot down...
What do you think about the Bronco Raptor?
This will trigger a lot of the fatherless Musketeers. They need to defend their crappy Teslas with their life 😂
Great video quality as always Joe! Nice job.
Don’t really understand the complaints regarding value. Joe is totally ok to have his own opinion of course. I’m 24,000 miles in on my Plaid. The Porsche I have is definitely a better build quality. That said, for $140,000 it’s faster than everything on the road, drives itself, has a full entertainment suite TH-cam, Disney, Netflix. Has great range, etc… I just drove to LA Friday and back Sunday and my passengers couldn’t shut up about it being the best road-tripping car they’ve ever been in. Literally never had an issue road-tripping. Bay Area to LA, one stop at a supercharger for lunch or dinner and by the time you are done eating, you’re car is ready to go.
Definitely agree that the brakes should be stronger.
Loved my McLaren 600lt and my current 911, but the Plaid is such an amazing value in my eyes.
Saying the ford lanekeeping system is in the same hemisphere as autopilot is painfully wrong. Really? Come on man. autopilot takes exits, predicts collisions, can handle stop signs, red lights, etc… I’ve driven my buddy’s f150 platinum many times and the tech is just not in the same hemisphere.
Anyways… not trying to convince anyone that Joe made a bad decision. He should love the car he buys and it’s clearly not for him. S class def has better build quality and luxury. But it drinks gas, doesn’t drive itself, is slow by comparison, has far less entertainment features, a much worse infotainment system in general, less storage space. The EQS is, of course, a joke.
If you value speed, technology, safety, and entertainment over luxury and build quality, the Tesla is a great value.
Exactly. Tesla vehicles really are on a level of their own... Nothing even comes close... You'd have to be brain dead to buy anything other then any 1 of the Tesla Models.
@@xrpo.g6855 yeah, they are in their own level of terrible exteriors and interiors. Maybe some day they will get to the german level.
@@xrpo.g6855 of course the guy with a crypto coin in his username thinks a Tesla is good
I couldn’t agree more. And I just have the Performance 3, and I can totally concur with the acceleration comments he said about his passengers.
I absolutely love this car! I’ve driven them all: Mercedes (still have one), BMW, Land Rover, Lexus, Infiniti, Jaguar, you name it.
Hands down, Tesla is in a class of its own. I will NEVER go back to anything with gas, for all the reasons you named above, and then some.
It’s not for everyone, but they literally cannot build them fast enough for the demand. Obviously they’re doing SOMETHING right.
The level where the german cars break down or consume so much oil that you have to fill oil in between oil changes & when they do break down you pay an arm and a leg for the repair because its a german vehicle... lmao... You don't have to worry about any of that again with a Tesla... Greatest cars ever made to dat... Fact. Thats why in Europe the model 3 & Y are already 1&2 in the top 20 best selling vehicles. Tesla for the W....
Anyone who has owned a Tesla knows exactly what you're talking about. IF you pay 100K for a car, you expect perfection. You expect Mercedes, BMW, Audi perfection and at that price point those cars deliver. Tesla does not and will not until we stop buying them at that price point. We are the only ones that will force Tesla to make a better "worth it" product. My mom has an Audio SUV that was half the price of the PLAID. I get in my mom's car and I feel like I'm in an excellent car.
well now these cars are 89k so it would be interesting to hear what you think about the car at 80k for the plaid.
I still can’t understand how anyone can spend a ton of money on such a pile of rubbish.
An EQS is a million times better. Tesla is just for fanboys that accept every single defect as a virtue.
Its because Teslaowners have no fatherfigure. So they simp for Elon and his products, its their whole personality.
I own 2022 model s lr, Plaid not worth it…
Joe needs to know that we know he doesn’t need to make regular contents for his gains.. its for us cos we need more contents!
I have the same exact car with all the bells and whistles and I love it.
I walked past one leaving work tonight and I couldn't believe how uneven the doors and the gappings were...
I rented a Model S Plaid and after driving it for a day I was surprised when you bought one. It’s the definition of a one trick pony IMO. And I agree, the acceleration isn’t even fun and that’s the reason people buy the car. The base Model S Long Range was a good value at $80k last year but now the same car costs $105k.
Media promotes Plaid 24/7, thats why people buy them.
Pikes peak hillclimb would like to have a word mr "one trick pony" 🤣
@@ogzombieblunt4626 Yeah, gutted, 1000+whp car on slicks with massive aero slower than a stock 650hp 911 Turbo on street tires. Tesla screams One Trick Pony.
@@wolfgangbarrio5043
Not gutted, you save some time if you gut it. Its the best stock hill climb car on the market, nobody else has that torque and hp available stock, especially at only 120k.
Every time I drive it through appalachia I blow by any car with ease. Keep coping.
@@ogzombieblunt4626 It’s also probably one of the cheapest ways to get into the low 9’s in a the quarter mile. Stock the Model S doesn’t handle that well and the brakes are horrendously under powered for a 1000hp car. Even with zero heat in the brakes the car was scary bad at slowing down from 100+mph. I also love when people use examples like racing or the 1/4 mile to suggest that is what makes for a good street car.
Great video as always, Joe!
The review is somewhat dishonest.
All the issues you mentioned you can see all of it in a quick test drive . I noticed too and is the reason we didn’t get one for over a 100k there are better options. Do what ever the f you want with it its your car .
Truly sorry you had such a poor experience and build quality. I’ve had my model 3 performance since 2018 and it’s been very tight, no panel gaps, and performs extremely well even when pushing a lot of Gs through hard corners and fast sprints. I do hope the Fremont team focusing on plaid and S lines really takes your feedback and experience to heart and nails down the quality. The plaid is a vehicle I aspire to as the acceleration is as you’ve said - comparable only to HyperCars / super cars which cost well over $1M. But I don’t disagree with you that it would be in great form for Tesla to bring in a higher level of interior trim worthy of a $150K price tag while also improving the other build issues you noted.
Had my first paid service from Tesla today, closing in on 49,778 miles on my performance model 3. Here are my metrics over 4 years 50K miles:
1. Total Tesla Maintenance Costs: $527 (Wiper blades, cabin air filters, alignment, brake caliper inspection / cleaning, fluid check (good); full vehicle inspection (all good)
2. Total Non Tesla Maintenance Costs: (4) performance tires, $1120
3. Supercharger costs $478; Total electricity costs non Tesla: $0 (free charging at apartment complexes, garages)
4. Total energy cost savings over 50K miles: Approx $8,122. (Gas assumed at $4.30/gallon blended costs during 4 year period, at average comparable performance vehicle efficiency of 25MPG (50,000 mi / 25 MPG X $4.30/gallon = $8,600 gas costs less $478 electricity costs = $8,122, or roughly $2K savings per annum
5. Time savings. In 4 years, this was only the third time I’ve visited my Tesla service center. First one was to test drive a car. Second one was for free upgrades to all the computer chips. So my time savings from service appointments alone across oil changes, tuneups etc is also considerable. Not to mention flawless reliability which comes from electric motors which last millions of miles, and the absence of so many legacy systems no longer needed (transmission, radiator, exhaust, etc)
I estimate I also saved roughly $1000 per year in lower maintenance costs (no oil changes, no tuneups, no coolant system maintenance, etc etc), which only get more expensive in future years with ICE vehicles.
Net/Net, I firmly believe one can expect to save in the range of $2500 to $3500+ per year in operating a Tesla EV over the comparable operating costs of an ICE vehicle. My energy savings may be higher than others who more heavily rely on super chargers or home electricity use, but likely lower than those who drive more than 12,500 miles per annum and/or spend well in excess of $4.30 per gallon of gas (e.g. above $7/gallon in California).
Good luck to all my current and future Tesla owners. May you also experience similar operating cost savings and unparalleled performance and safety and reliability. Having previously owned Mercedes, BMW (750, M3s), Porsche, Range Rover and other brands, I can confirm Tesla has had a vastly superior build quality and reliability while having a dramatically lower cost and almost no maintenance time or cost.
@@drdave3676 Exactly.. My Model S long range has been the best car i have ever owned and i've owned a lot of high end vehicles.. Good Bye ICE Vehicles ... (Except last Gen Viper... lol)
Looks like some Elontrolls invaded here.
@@sandroschtolpe6803 Hardly an Elon Troll. Just stating facts and trying to provide another perspective. One based on 51K miles, FSD use for now one year, and full knowledge and expertise over my own use and costs. Please refrain from derogatory remarks and let’s keep our dialog all as objective and fact based as possible.
@@drdave3676 you can always detect the nonsense Teslafanboys when they say things like 'best vehicle with superior quality' or 'bye bye ICE'. Thats a fact. Every car has disadvantages, and since Teslafanboys ignore them, their opinion is completely invalid