Lucid Sapphire Smashes Tesla Plaid's Acceleration - 2 Jasons 1 Car

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  • @EngineeringExplained
    @EngineeringExplained  ปีที่แล้ว +2060

    **Full disclosure** - this episode happened mostly by coincidence; we both happened to be at the same event, and for road drives you typically need a driving parter (not enough cars for every outlet to have their own), so Jason agreed to be in the video. That said, I'd love to get your honest feedback on it. *If* coincidentally we are are at future events together, I'm happy to try and make it happen again, if folks like the format. What would you want to see happen differently next time? And to those who watch the whole video, you the MVP, thanks!!

    • @kennethyan4066
      @kennethyan4066 ปีที่แล้ว +166

      You'd make a great insurance salemsan!

    • @jeffnhelen
      @jeffnhelen ปีที่แล้ว +163

      Absolutely loved this episode with 2 Jasons! Usually watch Camissa for the drama and flair, but was cool to see him get into the nerdy details. Don’t think I would change a thing.

    • @vpweber
      @vpweber ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Great chemistry Jason! I'd suggest happenstance over coincidence!

    • @KeatMP
      @KeatMP ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Loveee the banter between you two. More please!!

    • @rjung_ch
      @rjung_ch ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣🤣🤣@@kennethyan4066

  • @BrianBeckman
    @BrianBeckman ปีที่แล้ว +986

    Q: What's the only thing better than the 2JZ?
    A: The 2JSons
    Seriously, you two work really well together. You both should consider making content together more regularly.

    • @sparkgrid
      @sparkgrid ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Well that was creative 😂

    • @ChrisParayno
      @ChrisParayno ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Underrated comment right there

    • @jesussavesanus9790
      @jesussavesanus9790 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Maybe even make adult content together, I would pay BIIIIIIIIG bucks.

    • @TheSteinbitt
      @TheSteinbitt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No please, the insurance sales guy was clueless and annoying.

    • @MACRONOne
      @MACRONOne ปีที่แล้ว

      For real though!

  • @ManAcadie
    @ManAcadie ปีที่แล้ว +486

    The Jasons have great chemistry. I would genuinely enjoy a car review channel with the two of them on a regular basis. 😂

    • @TheDarkFalcon
      @TheDarkFalcon ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But in addition, not instead of regular content!

    • @adriansperling5012
      @adriansperling5012 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This is exactly what I came here to say. Just finished watching this video, and the one thing I learned: I need a Jason^2 channel!

    • @ManAcadie
      @ManAcadie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheDarkFalcon don't be greedy

    • @stefanschuchardt5734
      @stefanschuchardt5734 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Make it happen!

  • @milesj6064
    @milesj6064 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    I have to agree 100% with all the other commentors, that the two of you together is amazing, I love Jason's Hagerty stuff, how he blends humor with education, and I love Jason's Engineering Explained videos for the nerdy side of learning how things work. Definitely would love to see you both do another collaboration together and see if it works out the same. Always good to have two educated guys discuss a subject and see where it goes.

  • @ryanhoffmann9341
    @ryanhoffmann9341 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I would listen to these guys for a very very long time. DO MORE!

  • @MrDDawson
    @MrDDawson ปีที่แล้ว +700

    You need to have Jason on for the car videos more often. You are great together.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  ปีที่แล้ว +86

      Thanks, happy to hear it! Will try my best to see if we can make it happen again!

    • @crxtodd16
      @crxtodd16 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes, also if you two tooted at the exact same time it would combine forces and be very powerful.

    • @tommyh.8391
      @tommyh.8391 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can we get back to engineering now?

    • @MrDDawson
      @MrDDawson ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tommyh.8391 Why reply to me with this?

    • @ralanham76
      @ralanham76 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Only if the second Jason can stand him

  • @forrysc
    @forrysc ปีที่แล้ว +522

    Good chemistry and excellent self deprecation between these two. If they joined up for a series I'd watch it for sure.

    • @geoffwatches
      @geoffwatches ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes! 'you sell car insurance 😂' 'people don't think you're that smart' Savage

    • @rcajavus8141
      @rcajavus8141 ปีที่แล้ว

      MORE!MORE!MORE!!!

    • @forrysc
      @forrysc ปีที่แล้ว

      I follow both youtube channels and I follow Jason (I'll let you guess which one) on social media. Very solid content from both.

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep, and get Randy Pobst to be their tame racing driver, and Dave Coleman as their nerd in charge.

    • @justarandomf-4gphantom170
      @justarandomf-4gphantom170 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@anydaynow01 My guy over here planning the next Top Gear reboot 😂
      But for real that'd be sick

  • @VKEvilution
    @VKEvilution ปีที่แล้ว +505

    Two mechanical engineers nailing the chemistry.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  ปีที่แล้ว +112

      D'aww, now that's a solid compliment, thanks!

    • @tralala8980
      @tralala8980 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Great energy, first time only listening, then watched it again, back-to-back!
      Just a 2 % gripe:
      Jason the driver should Jason the passenger finishes his points sometimes.
      Examples: Handling: “Like a hooligan, but it doesn’t bite!”. (23:32) Great quote, give it room to breathe. Infotainment “I don’t want it to be irritating” (29:09). Same. Just give the passenger 3 more seconds to finish his drive. It is a bit easier to follow and lets both of you shine a bit more.
      And that is the only negative after watching it back-to-back. So, it is a great infotainment!
      @@EngineeringExplained

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@tralala8980 You're spot on, and thanks for watching!! While editing I noticed I was jumping in too soon, hope I can correct this habit of mine if it happens again! (It's tough, bc what's going on in my head is always "keep the convo flowing!" while sometimes it turns into an interruption).

    • @tralala8980
      @tralala8980 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@EngineeringExplained Thanks for the positive feedback!
      I noticed you were probably thinking ahead. "Essential info/quote is out. Bam! Get the next one moving." That works in writing/programing. But it is not enjoyable in conversation. Happens to me too! 😅
      Well, I already watched Jason the passenger’s videos too from your description. You all did a great job!
      Off to savagegeese...
      ...
      I really miss car ads from the 60s.They were instructive. Good it is coming back at least for those, who want it!🤩

    • @ChrisParayno
      @ChrisParayno ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha

  • @someguyontheinternet7165
    @someguyontheinternet7165 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Honestly this is the perfect combo. Cammisa brings in a little more humor and seems to extract more from your as well. He also adds a dose of emotion both around a car and brand which. That transforms an object into a story. It gives a more complete picture compared to an overly pragmatic mechanical approach which obviously everyone here also deeply enjoys. Diving into the mechanics satiates the inner nerd and helps inspire creativity in your viewers own life. A driving force for turning your army of 8 year olds into tomorrows Lucid 2.0. Best auto related video I’ve watched in a while.

  • @shadir007
    @shadir007 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Camisa’s ICONS video is amazing. It’s one of my favorite videos he has done. Highly recommend it.

  • @jonathanhiener2463
    @jonathanhiener2463 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    I have followed both components of Jason² for years, and there is no question that this is my favorite video that either of you have ever made. As an engineer with the flawed engineer brain, I love the authentic, unscripted banter about the Air and its unbelievable successes as well as the discussion of Lucid's uncertain future as a new player in the automotive world. Appreciating breakthroughs in technology while simultaneously critiquing the perfectionist mindset in the real world (all with an hint of automotive history) is simply the perfect mix. You both communicate well and have excellent chemistry together. I really hope you guys continue to collaborate in this relaxed fashion. This is some of the most enjoyable, funny, and informative content out there, and it's done without crazy edits or gags - just two gearheads (of... acceptable intellect) poking fun at themselves in a fast car!

  • @shidous
    @shidous ปีที่แล้ว +504

    The crossover we needed but did not deserve. Looking forward to watching it all, end to end!🎉

    • @emoney1231
      @emoney1231 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      I think it's a sedan ;)

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Thank you!!!

    • @gabecimoch2160
      @gabecimoch2160 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think he means both Jasons just like the crossover of a tv show.

    • @ChaosPootato
      @ChaosPootato ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emoney1231 ayyyy

    • @mitchellsteindler
      @mitchellsteindler ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just like the ultra high performance xc crosstrek

  • @savagegeese
    @savagegeese ปีที่แล้ว +141

    This video consolidated all the great things about this car including the problem with price. Now lets hope the company makes it and the talent makes it into other cars.

    • @joelo542
      @joelo542 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Looking forward to a Jason cammisa Collab with you, Mark!!

    • @andrewhigdon8346
      @andrewhigdon8346 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are forced by the rules of business to do exactly what they are doing. Luxury cars make the quickest ROI for manufacturers. Bottom feeder cars are needed to bolster the long term bottom line as well, but that takes longer, hence the Tesla Model S first, then the Model 3 and Y. Ford did the Model T, in any color you wanted, but all at the same time, black. But that market was there waiting for that product. The timing was impeccable. That can’t be done right now. Remember though, that when the Model S was the most important car to come out since the Model T, said the major magazines. I agree.

  • @AliNajafies
    @AliNajafies ปีที่แล้ว +15

    A great conversation between two great men. I’m really astonished at the moment by the fact that how the Internet can eliminate or has eliminated all the (physical, geographical, political, … any type of) barriers to information flow between humans so that I can sit down on my chair at home in the other corner of the world enjoying this fantastically brilliant dialogue about engineering stuff. Thank you both!

  • @rsmith2320
    @rsmith2320 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Keep it up!

  • @channeljared
    @channeljared ปีที่แล้ว +186

    As a huge fan of Cammisa, I really loved this - it showcased the best of EE in a more relaxed environment, while bringing in some of the humour and levity that Cammisa has. This video easily slots into my top 10 favorite TH-cam videos ever, great work guys, hope to see you both continue to succeed and flourish and do more together with amazing brands and cars like this.

  • @superchargedsteve3411
    @superchargedsteve3411 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    2 Jasons in the same video will now create a time paradox from which we can never escape. Great, thanks a lot guys!!

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Unfortunately you're stuck in this parallel with the both of us. Every other universe is enjoying peace and serenity.

    • @superchargedsteve3411
      @superchargedsteve3411 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@EngineeringExplained well ours is more fun at least! 😎 🏁

  • @dannonyogurt98
    @dannonyogurt98 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Jason's Hagerty content is gold.
    I also love the not so subtle ripping they do on each other.

  • @MegaMaskedrider
    @MegaMaskedrider ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This has to be one of the most open minded, respectful and competent discussions about cars i've ever seen, and i watch a lot about cars.. 😅🎉

  • @andrewhewes4010
    @andrewhewes4010 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @jnichols959
    @jnichols959 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Always love your videos and never would have imagined what a great combo these two Jasons would be!

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      So very kind of you, thank you thank you!!

    • @JasonCammisa
      @JasonCammisa ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@EngineeringExplainedWhere's MY CUT?!

    • @greatsrikar
      @greatsrikar ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@JasonCammisa lol

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@JasonCammisa don't forget to tip your driver ;)

  • @cdnaudioguy
    @cdnaudioguy ปีที่แล้ว +54

    You guys need to do this a few times a year. Two of my favorite car guys by several orders of magnitude!

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Might be able to make that happen, see pinned comment, so long as a few launches line up (that said, each car launch has numerous waves, so the likelihood of getting it all synced up is tough, but hey, we can chat about it!).

    • @halycon404
      @halycon404 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly. I'd rather see an episode of Icons where Jason throws to Jason on the whiteboard. Find a single car you both dearly love and have fun with it. Jason, history history history, manufacturing, blah blah blah, "and here's what slide rule crowd says", walk over to you with a whiteboard segment on some inane detail of the car and some banter. It'd be kinda fun seeing another foil other than Randy.
      This was fun, don't get me wrong, and I'd like to see another. But this type of unscripted off the cuff content isn't what either of you are best at or known for. It'd be fun to see what an actual mashup of your two styles would be like.

    • @CaramidaruAndreiBogdan
      @CaramidaruAndreiBogdan ปีที่แล้ว

      Podcast:)

  • @Chimmy912
    @Chimmy912 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    What an incredible video for an incredible car. You two together was a fantastic colab

  • @dub88acc
    @dub88acc ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The collab we didn't know we needed

  • @Sebwolf54
    @Sebwolf54 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    As a clearly 8-year old, I absolutely love the Jason² energy in this very video. Two mechanical engineers talking cars and having a better chemistry than some chemists would like to achieve. :D
    Can’t wait for your next coincidental collab!

  • @albertomorales7322
    @albertomorales7322 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    OMG! These two together! For halve an hour 🤯 I really enjoy these kind of surprises. I really do. Jason is one of my favorite car TH-camrs… yes, you got it right!

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Now Jason on the other hand... 😉

    • @bluetoes591
      @bluetoes591 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@EngineeringExplained Both Jasons are among the elite in automotive journalist Jasons.

  • @moldytexas
    @moldytexas ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Oh my god. Jason Cammisa with Jason Fenske, the world is officially cured.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Y'all too kind, quick, someone call us names!

    • @faheemabbas3965
      @faheemabbas3965 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@EngineeringExplaineddouble-goats

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@faheemabbas3965 Dave Coleman is the ultimate nerd goat for us old Sport Compact Car fans, but these two would make excellent sidekicks!

    • @ganymede3141
      @ganymede3141 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@EngineeringExplainedNerds!

    • @moldytexas
      @moldytexas ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EngineeringExplained the greatest like-minded nerd collab ever on youtube! PS: did watch the full 39 mins of the video and loved every second of it!

  • @pmdinaz
    @pmdinaz ปีที่แล้ว +35

    What an episode! Guest Jason really brought out some fun topics haha. Quite the throwdown at MB!

  • @ruffytdog
    @ruffytdog ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You both are totally different in style, but you both worked together so freakin well!

  • @adl320
    @adl320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pure gold. Even if this weren’t car talk it would still be informative and entertaining. But it is and it shows the brilliance of how seamlessly you work together. Pick any other car vehicle engineering topic and repeat! Loved it!

  • @celoceanicon
    @celoceanicon ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Two of my favorite youtube car guys making an episode together is something I wasn't expecting

  • @challacustica9049
    @challacustica9049 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The two great Jasons of creating absurdly high quality automotive content. Amazing.

  • @Ghotio
    @Ghotio ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Fantastic seeing two of my favorite auto experts collaborate. More of this, please!

  • @williamclark6466
    @williamclark6466 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, dudes!
    It was like two car geeks taking a drive and having an epic time enjoying the conversation and freedom of the open road.
    Do it again. It was great.

  • @sslazer
    @sslazer ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interesting conversation. I love the direction Lucid is taking with the Sapphire.
    Regarding the difference between the Sapphire and the Plaid with some small differences they are very similar in the straight and on the track as far as actual times. The rest is subjective feelings. Whether the price difference is worth it highly depends upon the buyer.
    There are certainly a lot more people who can afford $90k vs. $250k. Overall the competition and pace of advancement is a huge win for everyone. It’s not just changing the auto industry, it’s changing the energy industry, robotics, Ai, really the entire world.

  • @shakesnbake
    @shakesnbake ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Professor Camisa is a legend! Love this collab!

  • @zero11010
    @zero11010 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Would love to see you two sit in a car and do this from time to time. He’s got this phenomenal encyclopedic knowledge!

    • @bvoyelr
      @bvoyelr ปีที่แล้ว

      "Car guys in cars drinking coffee." They're the Jerry Seinfelds of Jasons!

    • @emmajacobs5575
      @emmajacobs5575 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bvoyelror for a UK reference, they’re the big brain Smith and Sniff

  • @MosquitoXR13
    @MosquitoXR13 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Easily, one of the best collaborations of all time. Thank you both.

  • @zaucy_
    @zaucy_ ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A duo I never thought I'd see in a video together, shooting the sh*t while riding around in a 1234hp, full-size EV sedan. LOL but I'm 100% all for it. You two have good chemistry and a plethora of knowledge between both of your minds and I feel insanely lucky to be able to watch/listen/learn from you Jasons. Definitely hoping to see more from yall in the future. Thanks again for another great video man, so much learned and taken from it! 🤙🏼🤙🏼

  • @AutomotiveWoman
    @AutomotiveWoman ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Oh, what a brilliant suggestion! You two are just extremely good together, after all. Perhaps you could entertain us with a series where one Jason, the engineer, explains things on a whiteboard, while the other Jason does all the crazy stuff and puts the math to the test. Of course, it doesn't really matter which Jason does which, does it?

    • @PeterWhite-q1k
      @PeterWhite-q1k 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed more of the 2 J's would be awesome! One condition comes to mind, make sure Randy P gets some face-time as he adds to any show he has been involved with, IMHO!

  • @BrianK04
    @BrianK04 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was such a joy to listen to, interesting the full way thru. I finished and I just wanted to hear you guys talk about more. Hearing real talk about cars and not sensational promo material is always a breathe of fresh air.

  • @deanrhodenizer938
    @deanrhodenizer938 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Glad you guys finally got together. I am a big fan of both your channels but for different reasons. Jason C offers videos that are always very entertaining, and I appreciate his coverage of historical vehicles and he (and Randy) seems very enthusiastic about what he is doing. Jason F offers videos that are usually explaining something interesting, so I am paying very close attention, hanging onto every word making sure I understand every detail of what he is saying.
    Good the hear the explanation about braking for these quick cars - can accelerate faster than they can brake. Interesting to hear Jason C’s take on the handling of the Sapphire. We have finally reached the stage where the car‘s computer can control traction better than a human driver. And also great to hear Jason C’s comment that the Sapphire is ahead of MB on leading edge engineering.

  • @UraPAuckland
    @UraPAuckland ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great collaboration! An excellent exploration of the Lucid drawing on your respective perspectives.

  • @shannonlenz1098
    @shannonlenz1098 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please do more videos together. You have great chemistry. Cammisa is one of my favorite automotive journalists. I used to look foward to his road & track articles before all this, everything's online, day and age.

  • @thirdpedalnirvana
    @thirdpedalnirvana ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I want a “Just put buttons in the car, FFS” t-shirt with Jason’s face on it.

  • @Ficon
    @Ficon ปีที่แล้ว +10

    These cars would not be allowed to run on an NHRA drag strip without a roll cage, a racing license, and a parachute. But yeah, let's just sell them to general public. Great collab!

    • @bogususer2595
      @bogususer2595 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I believe this is the reason Tesla never put out the Plaid Plus it had planned. The car becomes a specialty car and way more expensive.

    • @TwoDollarGararge
      @TwoDollarGararge ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a Dodge sized middle finger that they made to steak across the plaid

  • @j4k3br4k3
    @j4k3br4k3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I dont think anyone is debating if the lucid air sapphire is better than a plaid or not. $300k vs $90k is the issue

    • @spdrcrj
      @spdrcrj ปีที่แล้ว +10

      “$300k vs $90k”.

    • @WhatisaLee
      @WhatisaLee ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I understand I’m in the minority here, but I think this comparison is analogous to:
      1) If I had FU money, would I buy a Ferrari/Lambo over an Emira? No.
      2) If I had FU money, would I buy a Lucid over a Tesla? Yes.
      But to your point, #2 is just generally true for luxury-leaning vehicles. The more categorically expensive luxury is more often the better luxury.

    • @HUMC5
      @HUMC5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      $250K vs $110K(with $20K track package)
      Tesla build quality is garbage though.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  ปีที่แล้ว +22

      For sure! As discussed in the video, though it’s $90k vs $250k. With that extra $50k you could pair your Lucid with an M3P 😉! And there’s always a bigger fish, Lucid gets very close to Rimac times, yet Rimac is $2M.

    • @kenm724
      @kenm724 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This is the same argument the average car enthusiast makes when they look at a $30k build vs a $110k one trick pony.

  • @gouldnj
    @gouldnj ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hearing a person like Cammisa wax automotive rhapsodic about this car like that is truly a surprise. He fucks around a lot, but he is truly serious when talks about how impressed he is with this car.

  • @nielsonderbeke8507
    @nielsonderbeke8507 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Loved this video!
    Lucid reminds me more of SAAB from what you're describing! Engineering to perfection, but at the cost of profit margin (and sales volumes, as their prices were quite high).

  • @machtschnell7452
    @machtschnell7452 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was a truly enlightening dialogue, so thank you both for recording that.

  • @davidrichter57
    @davidrichter57 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    That was ridiculously sublime. I enjoyed every second of the banter and especially the content. On the other hand, I think non-engineers could find this a bit too content-rich, and the overall market potential of this video might be a touch limited. Kinda like the Lucid Sapphire itself.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha, it's the only way I know! Love this comment - like I said in the video, I'm frequently presented with why mentality is flawed, but pursue anyways.

  • @SaveTheManuals1
    @SaveTheManuals1 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Fantastic video! I am fully convinced of Lucid's engineering prowess. Hopefully the business side works.

    • @Muskar2
      @Muskar2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They're inseparable aspects. If you spend three times as much as you charge, when your competitors spend 80% of what they charge, it's much easier to provide higher quality. But unsustainable quality is... unsustainable. Compromises have to be made or they will go bankrupt, like most car brands in history.

    • @newtonfirefly3584
      @newtonfirefly3584 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Muskar2 You both lack the information, knowledge that Lucid designs, develops, manufactures, produces every electric motor for Tesla and Lucid.
      Tesla purchases all of their components from other manufactures, producers. Only their S/W is developed within Tesla along with the robot manufacturing implementation, with assistance; Both of these have serious issues.
      Tesla has "Globalist/Elite" backing as do Lucid, Rimac, etc. Elon Musk is among their 'puppets', at least since PayPal with Peter Thiel; co-founders. Continues with Tesla, Space X [Jim Cantrell, first Exec VP, engineer, developer - now Phantom Space]
      Be Aware, Informed, Knowledgeable, BEWARE !!
      All of these EV and nearly all modern vehicles have complete manufacture control => Avoid - at any cost - even [seemingly] FREE => NOT FREE; NO Freedom !! 😞
      Good Luck

  • @triaxe-mmb
    @triaxe-mmb ปีที่แล้ว +4

    More of 2Jasons content is needed in this world

  • @kevinhefty5305
    @kevinhefty5305 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t watch many car videos but watched this whole thing. Two of you have fun chemistry and was an entertaining video. Enough to make me come to comments to look for links

  • @APCJunky
    @APCJunky ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That actually worked really well...I want more...

  • @eldude1999
    @eldude1999 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We need more Jason x 2! Great team and fun to watch

  • @Food_n_Driver365
    @Food_n_Driver365 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Genius collab! Who else noticed the rear wheel move forward before the body in that launch slowmo 😮

  • @brandonsever2576
    @brandonsever2576 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My two favorite Jasons presenting together is awesome. Been subscribed here for probably 8 years and I've watched basically every curmudgeon show episode too, so the nerdiness and knowledge is no surprise

  • @rommac1907
    @rommac1907 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was very cool, you should be guest of the Carmundgeon Show with Jason & Derek I think

  • @rrshse6704
    @rrshse6704 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Camisa is the best thing that happened to your show ;) Welcome to big time Jason !

  • @WeirdSeagul
    @WeirdSeagul ปีที่แล้ว +10

    now lucid just needs to start making more vehicles

    • @larryc1616
      @larryc1616 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're bankrupt. Need Saudi funding and they want lucid to relocate to Saudi Arabia. Made in Saudi Arabia

    • @ChosenMJ
      @ChosenMJ ปีที่แล้ว

      No, they need to sell the ones they already have which is $3B worth. No sense in making something you can’t sell.

  • @xfuture3762
    @xfuture3762 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The Sapphire is $250,000+, while the Plaid is $90,000, insane

    • @larryc1616
      @larryc1616 ปีที่แล้ว

      And the sapphire is not even a production car. The 4680 models will all be out next year.

    • @Slayer-33
      @Slayer-33 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Uhh, that IS the gap you pay for in bleeding edge technology. It's not Ike you don't get what you pay for. It's a freaking Tesla Plaid vs an actual Luxury Hyper EV.
      I would never subscribe to the idea that any Tesla at this point in time is anything but a nice commuter EV with the best charging network.

    • @xfuture3762
      @xfuture3762 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Slayer-33 $170,000 more for a 10th of a second quicker 0-60 is not hyper car level, Plaid 0-60 1.99, Sapphire 0-60 1.89

    • @R03333
      @R03333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The argument here is the car is significantly more luxury? Think maybach prices

    • @Slayer-33
      @Slayer-33 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@xfuture3762 It runs the quarter mile UNDER 9, 0-60 in 1.85. You exponentially pay more for bleeding edge technology. It's not only faster, it handles better, it behaves better, it does what you want it to do.
      All things being equal who'd want a Model S Plaid? I wouldn't, people with excess money probably wouldn't either. Where's the prestige of a Model S plaid? It's a cheaply made "fast" car with its redeeming quality probably only being its charging network lol.. Yes I'm not including FSD yet because that's not ready yet but heh.. Lucid is working on their own FSD.
      The Sapphire looks a lot better IMO and has more room too..

  • @BhavinTolia
    @BhavinTolia ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dear car makers, we all need tactile buttons because our muscle memory assists reaching the correct feature without looking and without endangering our lives...

  • @sevensixtysteve8662
    @sevensixtysteve8662 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was one of the best videos I’ve seen recently. Great rapport, genuinely funny and entertaining but also informative and inciteful, this format definitely works !

  • @tylerburghart4542
    @tylerburghart4542 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just watched the second video and loved it. First off I have been watching Jason from EE since like 16-17 like very early on. Loved the knowledge and the humor. Just found Jason C. Not too long ago and also enjoy his energy. The pair is almost too much. Lol you guys are awesome. Please make more stuff together. I need more thirty ish minute car ride conversations between you two.

  • @dirkkeeler1348
    @dirkkeeler1348 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You guys were driving one of five cars Lucid produced to give the media and others for testing and evaluation. My son-in-law works at the plant in Casa Grande, AZ where they are built. He was one of the last humans to go over and make sure everything was perfect on all five cars. When they sold the first Saphire to a real customer, he was assigned to install the front and rear windscreens to make sure they were as perfect as could be without damage (long story there) along with checking the entire car. His only complaint is he hasn't been able to drive one more than a few feet inside the plant. The SUV is coming soon. I hope Lucid stays in business.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing! Neat that your son-in-law works at the plant, tell him I said hello!

    • @ErebosGR
      @ErebosGR ปีที่แล้ว

      Lucid Motors is now controlled by the Saudis, so don't worry... those petrodollars will keep them afloat.

    • @fredrce
      @fredrce ปีที่แล้ว

      Any hint if the lucid gravity will get the sapphire power?

  • @ultimatist
    @ultimatist ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Excellent collaboration, love to see Lucid get recognition from different perspectives on this masterpiece of a car!

  • @chillydogization
    @chillydogization ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Did he try the Plaid with track package? Also, the yoke is optional (a regular steering wheel is available from Tesla).

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Uncertain, and yes good point, Tesla did indeed bring back the regular steering wheel, thankfully.

    • @JasonCammisa
      @JasonCammisa ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I haven't, yet. The last Plaid I drove on track was the original; I'll get to the Track Package eventually. Kinda tough when Tesla has no press fleet - asking private owners to beat their car on track isn't easy.

    • @ken830
      @ken830 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JasonCammisa Can't wait for your opinion of the Track Package.

  • @murrieteacher
    @murrieteacher ปีที่แล้ว

    This has to be one on the all time best videos I have watched. Thanks Jasons.

  • @erik9108
    @erik9108 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finished watching the 911 S/T video and then this one. Loved them both! My engineering-leaning mind ate up the content and then my goofy side got a few laughs in. Bravo!

  • @BigPaPaRu
    @BigPaPaRu ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really appreciate and love how fast these vehicles are getting. That being said, I’m worried about reckless drivers. These cars are getting so blisteringly fast. I hope people can remember that they don’t own the road.

    • @phillyphil1513
      @phillyphil1513 ปีที่แล้ว

      re: "That being said, I’m worried about reckless drivers. These cars are getting so blisteringly fast. I hope people can remember that they don’t own the road." an influencer's going to LAUNCH a Sapphire over the crest at Baxter and Alvarado in Echo Park.

    • @rp9674
      @rp9674 ปีที่แล้ว

      Almost impossible to drive all out anywhere close to safely

  • @pin65371
    @pin65371 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    What these companies need to start doing is have customizable screens. Have a piece of software where people can design the screen layout the way they want it. They could even have a "market place" where people can upload their layout so others can use it if they find one they like.

    • @rp9674
      @rp9674 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Generic tablet as display screen easily and cheaply replaceable size it as you wish

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tesla does actually let you move (and customize) the buttons at the bottom of the screen, which is actually really nice. I just wish they allowed for more "slots," so you could put more buttons in a dedicated spot.

  • @stevenfoon2194
    @stevenfoon2194 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Excellent piece. Lucid should give both of you a lot of credit because prior to this, I didn't think that much about so called luxury or performance EV's (Tesla). Lucid raised the bar and really need to go all out on advertising and letting people know more about their vehicle!

    • @ErebosGR
      @ErebosGR ปีที่แล้ว

      Since 2019, Lucid Motors is now controlled by the Saudis, so there's that.

    • @ErebosGR
      @ErebosGR ปีที่แล้ว

      @@antblanks Since April 2019, Lucid has been majority-owned by Public Investment Fund, the sovereign wealth fund of Saudi Arabia.
      When a shareholder owns more than 50% of a publicly traded company, then they can control it because they can effectively call all the shots in board appointments and shareholders' meetings.
      And it matters because of Mohammed bin Salman controls that fund.

    • @dantethomas7964
      @dantethomas7964 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ErebosGRwhats wrong with that?

  • @Wirenfeldt1990
    @Wirenfeldt1990 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a joy, a treat and something I would love to see repeated whenever you can manage it..
    And if you ever have a spare hour and change, and happen to be in the San Francisco area, please gatecrash The Carmudgeon Show for our viewing pleasure too..

  • @ConnorHammond
    @ConnorHammond ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Big call about the handling, Cammisa! Got me very intrigued.

  • @johnekins4408
    @johnekins4408 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My Prius can manage 0 to 60 in about 1 week! However it is really economically and I love it.

    • @rp9674
      @rp9674 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok

  • @quinnthompson
    @quinnthompson ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video! Thank you! 🙂
    As the price goes up, you get those diminishing returns. I'm not sure you can justify the Lucid price tag. This is a flagship that needs to sell cheaper cars .. if they can stick around long enough to build them. (This point was being made as I was typing lol)

    • @bvoyelr
      @bvoyelr ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think the price is justifiable. It's the fastest car and, according to Jason, the most playful passenger car. At least for the time being, if they didn't sell it for that much, scalpers would. Once the brand is established and you can get one without waiting in line for a year, then they can lower the price to keep the waiting list favorable to them.

    • @lemongavine
      @lemongavine ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s worth the price, but the Tesla Plaid is a much better value and not too far behind on performance.

  • @tboy911
    @tboy911 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How about a head to head with the Plaid with track pack for $110k vs the Sapphire at $250k

    • @colin-nekritz
      @colin-nekritz ปีที่แล้ว

      This is more about how the petulant manchild Elno aka Phony Stark and his sycophants insist on all these conditions and the Lucid comes along, didn’t insist on conditions, and can beat the Plaid, it can even beat the Plaid 0-60 on a public road any given time not under ideal conditions. This about one company that makes everything up as they go along to game their stock price, spinning a yarn about its questionable,often patently false greatness, just like liar Musk’s own manufactured backstories, and a company run by actual engineers (which Musk is not) comes along and just spanks the empty cardhouse of Tesla fragile egos and makes its cultist fanboys, like you, cry.

  • @DezMak
    @DezMak ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow!!! Camisa's analysis and ability to communicate said analysis is so amazing each time I experience it but this was a new level. Thanks other Jason!

  • @usonumabeach300
    @usonumabeach300 ปีที่แล้ว

    I took a bit to watch this because of it's run time, but I really enjoy it. Seeing Jason C be less presenter mode and just chatting was exceptionally interesting.

  • @MikesTropicalTech
    @MikesTropicalTech ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video! I admire Lucid's engineering also, but I hope that the company survives long-term. They've got Saudi money keeping them afloat but that's not a good business model if you're not selling cars in volume.

    • @rp9674
      @rp9674 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not good in a couple of ways

    • @meanboy2000
      @meanboy2000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      November 7th is earnings day. Will be interested in the number of deliveries they made.

  • @davidreed9046
    @davidreed9046 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the team up! Really like the assessment on the engineering of the the Sapphire and how it plays into the financial aspect of the Lucid company. Great work, gentlemen!

  • @MrSamPhoenix
    @MrSamPhoenix ปีที่แล้ว +19

    These two should start a channel together. One Jason is the serious technical part, while the other is the silly crazy half.

    • @chrisbraid2907
      @chrisbraid2907 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey they both could do both parts !

  • @tumbleweed1976
    @tumbleweed1976 ปีที่แล้ว

    Educational. Entertaining. Honestly it was perfect for me. You two have great chemistry. Thank you both.

  • @jeffreykenyon7718
    @jeffreykenyon7718 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was the most beautifully perfect collaboration I’ve ever seen, please do more together

  • @off-roadingexplained8417
    @off-roadingexplained8417 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Am I the only one is insanely impressed with the suspension? It has to be incredible to be able to handle the power!

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And be comfortable, and handle well, it's a great suspension.

  • @mrgeebennett1009
    @mrgeebennett1009 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What an great absorbing video, I found what you were saying really interesting. Your description of handling (Jason C) painted an image in my head of the car being driven as if I was the driver. Loved the geeky tech stuff too. You guys should do more stuff like this again. Please can you do the Lucid Gravity when it comes out too??

  • @777Outrigger
    @777Outrigger ปีที่แล้ว +11

    F-18E/F pilot. Yawn. 0-180 in 3 secs. Of course, that's with catapult assist.

    • @you2uber530
      @you2uber530 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You mean that's the catapult, maybe with a little assistance from the f18...

  • @jeffk412
    @jeffk412 ปีที่แล้ว

    fantastic interplay between the 2 Jasons! I would love to see more of this!

  • @ianlatham2975
    @ianlatham2975 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Definitely want to see more videos with Jason Squared; you have a natural chemistry and charisma that blends really well. Throttle House needs to be wary.

  • @Amber57499
    @Amber57499 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Damn how do you drive backwards so quickly and effortlessly?

  • @wompa70
    @wompa70 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This video was great. Loved watching you two talk.
    I think that if you can afford this car and want it, it's worth the price.
    Consistency is key. Cars may not have as many things to monitor but look at an airplane's instruments. Regardless of what is being measured, the unit being used, or what "normal" is, all the needles point up. If one needle is pointed to the left, you know at a glance something's wrong.

  • @TheMadmax0609
    @TheMadmax0609 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Agreed, I love my Plaid but Tesla needs to bring the stalks back.. and can we put the horn back in the proper place, please?

  • @subutaynoyan5372
    @subutaynoyan5372 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now this is the right amount of Jason to watch. Jason² all the way!

  • @crnisamuraj
    @crnisamuraj ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is great! I love the Jasons energy :D You guys should make this more often! You two are my favorite car guys! It's great to see you together! I love how much I learn from your videos!

  • @caleb30
    @caleb30 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I see Jason Cammisa, I click

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love that TH-cam suggests “translate to English” when I see this comment. 😂 What does Cammisa even mean?!

    • @caleb30
      @caleb30 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EngineeringExplained that’s hilarious. Hope you guys find a reason to collaborate in the future.

  • @rightwingsafetysquad9872
    @rightwingsafetysquad9872 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Loved seeing the 2 Jasons together. Cammisa looked so uncomfortable sitting on the wrong side of the car.

  • @2006gtobob
    @2006gtobob ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I agree that you two are extremely good together. You should do a series where the one Jason is the engineer describing what something is capable of on the whiteboard and the other Jason does the yahoo crazy stuff putting the math to the test. And it doesn't matter which Jason does what.

  • @justinpeterson6965
    @justinpeterson6965 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. Two of my favorites together in the same video! Love it!

  • @christopherthompson8389
    @christopherthompson8389 ปีที่แล้ว

    Two of my fav guys/channels collaborating... awesome