My final thoughts on the BMW RnineT, and Comparing it to my Triumph Bonneville.
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- I go on a ride into Eynsford in Kent and get my 2010 Triumph Bonneville out to compare it side by side to see how one of the more aggressive modern classics (the RnineT) compares with with a far more relaxed modern(ish) classic motorcycle.
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I know this video is a couple of years old now, but if you're watching this because you're interested in buying one of these, this is by far the best and most accurate review of the bike. I've had my R nineT for three years now and every talking point mentioned here is spot on. I stop and look at the bike every time I get off of it, and I appreciate the build quality every time I get on it. It feels like it was machined out of a solid block of aluminum or something. Great video.
Spectacular review / thoughts.
I was completely hung up on a tiumph street scrambler, but after watching a few videos about this machine and its simply beautiful aspect I couldn't resist.
I am desperately waiting for the arrival of my r nine t 2021 scrambler.
... now just say that it is phenomenally pleasant to see the enthusiasm of your speech.
congratulations and greetings from Portugal.
Oh wooooow- the R9T Scrambler; that is s ridiculously cool bike!🖤🏍👌🏻
Thank you so much Vitor, that means a lot!🙂
And good luck impatiently waiting for your dream bike- happy riding!🙂🤘🏼🤘🏼
@@FreddieDobbs does the bmw r nine t scrambler have the same agressive and uncomfortable riding issues that you mentioned in this video?
Have to agree with you on some of your criticisms and certainly all of your comments particularly after owning the RnineT for 2years now. It has a uniqueness unsurpassed by none. This is and always will be "The bike" for me. I love it and it brings joy to my life the moment I hop on. I have up graded by adding a comfort seat, raised handle bar spacer (20mm) and about to add Ohlins rear shock. No bike is perfect in it's originality and parts aren't cheep but I now ride with Gods when I ride my RnineT. From Australia, ride like there's no 2moro. 😎👍
PS I previously owned a Triumph bike and agree it was some what more comfortable, but I don't really notice when I'm mesmerised by the RnineT.
Ahhhh and R9T in Australia- superb!!
I's do the exact same mods as you if I owned an R9T (seat and raised bars)- I can imagine they transform the bike's comfort.
Happy riding Chris!🙂
There is good reason why first gear doesn't clunk. The triumph has a multi plate wet clutch which has drag, so first gear on any bike with a wet clutch will go with a clunk. The R Nine T has a single plate dry clutch, just like what's in a car, these have no inertial drag and hence first gear just pops in quite silently. as an R nine T owner its something you soon get used to
The Bonneville was a legend and still is. Almost a mythical bike, from a time when British bikes such as Norton, BSA were a major player on the motorbike market. Yet, three or four years ago l bought a 9T. No regrets whatsoever. An excellent review in any case. Well done.
That's the problem - Bonneville is a brand, practically nothing to do with the original Triumph - the old Triumph company is long gone. It's just brand value. The R9T is more authentic and superior, like the Kawasaki W800 (if faithfulness to the original is what you're after). The Thruxton is more of a fair comparison, but again, anyone thinking modern Triumphs is anything more that a brand purchase is deluding themselves. Why do you think the Norton and BSA brands are resurfacing? $$$.
Mythical bike that's made in Thailand and keeps releasing entry-level models.. Sounds not too mythical for me.
Moto inventé par des allemands 😂…triumph 😂😂😂😂
I think the Bonneville and RNineT are being compared a lot for good reasons but they are very different machines, especially if you look at all the different iterations. I sold my RnineT Scrambler for a Triumph Bobber Black and there's just something about the bobber that the RNineT couldn't provide. Granted, they are very different in terms of riding style, position, exhaust note, but I couldn't be happier about the switch!
Your videos are very relaxing and cheerful.
I've never really been into retro bikes before but since watching your videos I now really want one.
Thanks Logan! I think it's like a bit of a bug that you can catch out of the blue with these modern classics!😆
You need lots of spare cash..
The Triumph Speed Twin and Kawasaki z900RS are the competitors for the R9T. Oh, SW Motech make model specific pannier racks and suitably retro panniers.
Yes... it is an older post but i reply anyway.
Good review. Thank you. The BMW is something special and i agree with the modern yet retro description. I have owned many bikes over the years imcluding the modern Triumph. While the Triumph does nothing wrong BMW is in another class.
Looks superb.
Awesome review, really appreciated. Like someone else typed, your enthusiasm is infectious.
Was thinking about this gorgeous bike, but your final thoughts won me over not to buy one. Surprising I know but your comment about the pressure on the wrists brought me to actually plan a ride at a dealer. And sure enough, after half a day of (motorway) touring my wrists hurt. Bummer...
Perhaps you can do a review of a BMW R1250R? Curious what you would make of that bike and how it stacks up against the R NineT.
Thank you! And really glad you found it useful! I've heard extremely good things about the R1250R. A few R9T owners said they bought handlebar risers for their R9Ts, and that sorts out the wrist pain:)
@@FreddieDobbs Why the heck didn't I think of risers... D'Oh! Thanks for the reminder though.
This is an excellent review. Informative, beautiful scenery, and some really nice music kicking right now.
Nice review. You’re right. I’ve got a 2017 pure as a daily commuter, 25k miles, and I still very occasionally miss a gear. Need to be a tiny bit deliberate when shifting. Other than that, absolutely love the bike.
Very interesting, thanks for the insight regarding the gearbox! I’m a huge fan of the Pure model- I really like the honesty of it- beautiful bikes!
You come across like a pro on camera! Are you an actor? Great video 👍
Thanks very much Jon, really appreciate it! I've just been doing motorcycle content on Instagram for a year (@dob.bs) and thought I'd try TH-cam. I'm absolutely loving TH-cam- extremely fun!😀
Excellent video, well spoken and precise ! You’ve earned a sub here my friend !
Thanks very much for the support Arthur, really appreciate it🙂
Great video. I traded my Speed Twin in on a R1250R. I found my speed twin too small for me at 195 pounds and 6ft. The R9T is too small too. You should give the R1250R a ride. Its sublime..
Thanks Angus! That’s very interesting- a few people have said the same thing about the R1250R. Thanks for the insight Angus🙂
@@FreddieDobbs No worries.... Def give one a run Mate!
I am considerinf either the z900rs (again, had one before) or the r1250r, mainly looking for more comfort with decent performance. the bmw is quite a bit more modern but everyone says it is so good…
Love that u put an invisible kickstand down.
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Really good review and balanced summary. I have R9T Urban and agree with comments re seat and gearbox but having tried other bikes, including Triumphs I think the BMW is in another league
Look forward to your review of Harley
Thanks very much Jennifer. I do agree- especially in terms of dynamism and rider focus, the BMW stands alone! Thanks for the support!🙂
Almost identical to my 9T that one. Had it about 9 months / 2500 miles. Thoughts? Agree with you on the gearbox - it's not the smoothest; bit agricultural. Agree with you on pillion comfort - it's not the best. Luggage wise there's plenty of options and I'm not worried when it comes time to tour again (damn you Covid). Position wise - I'm about the same size as you and can do a 250 mile day on it, which isn't bad for a naked retro roadster. I disagree with you a bit around weight and how it carries it, the boxer allows the weight to be lower and, I find, that's easier to handle than having it higher up like my adventure bike this replaced. It's pretty efficient for a 1200 air cooled, so 150 miles between fill ups decent enough for the bike style - no fuel gauge though which is bloody cheeky on an expensive bike. Don't understand why they fitted it with innertubes rather than tubeless tyres - especially as the scrambler is tubeless. That's annoying but I thought hey, I hardly ever get punctures....then got one 3 days into ownership. My other concern is oil usage - the sight glass is ~500ml from top to bottom and these boxers do like a drink. That means if you're anal like me and want to go out with the oil at the correct level every time - you're filling up with oil quite regularly and there's a really annoying 'special tool' to undo the filler cap, which is kept under the seat which is secured with.....a special tool! What did you say about over-engineering again? I do really like it and time will tell whether we get on longer term. Thanks for the video Freddie. All the best
Wow, that is such an interesting insight- thanks do much for sharing!
You're absolutely right- I stand corrected re the luggage options. It's an incredibly special bike👌
2012 Bmw 1200 gs Twin cam has the same air/oil cooled motor but it has more comfort for you and your passenger , more luggage options , adventure screen option and telelever anti dive front suspension . With 55 mpg 200 mile tank range it is more practical but not as pretty as the R9T .Fit Cat eliminator headers and Akropovic titanium silencer K&N air filter and ditch the flappy valve and it flies . The gear box is OK just change down all the way to first before you stop at that junction ,you get used to it ,its a big twin with shaft drive after all Its got Loads of character It`s my forever bike .
Perfect comparison, thanks for the much information, I'm looking forward to the next video ✌🏼
Thanks Jago, really glad you found it interesting!🙂🙌🏻
For a long time I decided between NineT and Triumph Scrambler 1200 ... I both like it very much 😉
Just bought a 2015 R nineT!!😍☺️
r nine t hands down ... i just love them
I appreciate your insights, knowledge & passion for these machines. I love my new R9T. I agree that the arm position & engineering encourages going around bends in a very satisfactory fashion. The 1,170 cc's are a big plus as well & the lack of electronic information & pannier capabilities are a minus.
Thanks for the video, and a special thanks for stating your height. Also thanks for buying Australian products mate.
Another excellent video Freddie. Loving the work you are doing on this channel. If you ever come over to Thailand give me a shout and we will organise a ride.
Thank you so much, I do have a Thai trip at the back of my mind so I'll remember this kind offer🙂
Now this is a proper review!
Great video. I have the 2021 R NineT but I need that Jacket. How tall are you and what size Jacket are you wearing?
How you didn’t drop the bike is just beyond me
Also, i dont understand how the R ninety weighs less than the RE interceptor whoch weighs around 240 kg. This bmw with such monstrous boxer engine, how does it manage to weigh only 220kg, less then the 650cc interceptor. Thats just surprising.
Great review. I’m currently riding a Bonneville T100 and looking to replace it with another classic with a bit more high-end oomph. The R9T and Speed Twin are both on my shortlist, and although different in exactly the way you describe I’m struggling to decide which would be best for my needs.
Maybe I should just go all-in and get the Thruxton RS 🤨
Such a tough choice! I know it sounds ridiculous, but the R9T was actually too quick for me- it's savagely fast and nothing will leave it!
T120 for comfort and understated power, R9T for focus and speed and Thruxton for style and clip on bars? (I've never tried a Thruxton unfortunately so wish I could better pigeonhole it!😆)
I've been out on a couple of rides where an R9T has been present. First on I was on my CBR600RR and the guy was never far behind me or if he was in front he wasn't an easy pass. A few times I could have dropped a gear and blasted past but not worth it on public roads. Especially when he was going plenty quick enough.
Second time I was on my GS 1200 with the GF on the back. He wasn't getting away from me or was close behind me. The GS always surprises me at how bloody quick it pulls out of corners and how confidence inspiring it is getting around them even 2 up. I really fancy trying an R9T, I can't imagine needing anything faster for the road and it just looks so awesome.
@@cliveadams7629 I bought the R9T in the end, and have to say I love it. Shed loads of torque and more than enough top end power for me, and it handles like a dream and looks the biz too. Try one, you won’t regret it!
what phone holder are you using? looks solid! Cheers mate
Great review! Enjoyed it alot. Just realise how totally screwed I'd be trying to drive on the UK side of the road :)
Ahh you'd get used to it very quickly!😆
@@FreddieDobbs but my reflex instinctive reaction would be totally wrong In dangerous situations ;)
Great vlog! Much appreciate the user’s view. I must ask One technical question though: how does it feel riding a dry clutch on what seems like a powerful bike ? Would the dry clutch become worn out quickly when commuting in the city ? Thanks
That's a really good question and honestly, I didn't know it had a dry clutch! It felt fine (perfectly normal), but I think you may be right- there may be more potential of it wearing out faster while commuting, although I've never had an R9T owner message me to say they've ever changed the clutch!
@@FreddieDobbs thanks for the feed-back. Well whether the dry clutch is fine or not doesn’t matter anymore cause I got my eyes on the scrambler 1200 now 🤩
I think the main competitor of the R nine T classic is the Triumph Speed Twin. Which is faster? Better in corners?
I had the Bonneville 2019.
The day I test rode RNineT I sold my bonneville and bought RNineT.
Wow!!! Interesting, the Bonnie doesn’t compare- dynamically speaking!
@@FreddieDobbs for me it was more like the character of the bike. The way the RNineT moves when you throttle, that boxer engine is fun and engaging to ride in comparison to triumph’s. I even tried speed twin. 😃
Someone who weighs 160 lbs. will not ride the Bonneville front non-adjustable suspension the same way someone who weighs 250 lbs., thus having adjustable front suspension to adjust "sag" is vital. You hardly spent any time on that. (??), that stuff matter dude, a lot more than nonsense like lean angle by comparason.
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2015 R9t/ 2017 Triumph T120 good comparison!
Absolutely agree!
Great vlog, nicely composed. I’ve both of these bikes. Got my R9T (Pure) last year and have added many bolt ons to personalise to exactly what I want. There is plenty of luggage available to suit all tastes. I’ve never said it before about a bike but it’s a ‘keeper’. My wife’s Bonnie (perfect for the vertically challenged, she’s 5’2”) is again a great bike to personalise. Standard seat is not comfortable after an hour or so riding though. Keep up the good reviews.
Thanks Andy, really appreciate it! And thanks for the heads up on the luggage- I stand corrected. I completely agree- the R9T really does feel like a keeper- it's so good, there's nowhere to go from it! Thank you for the support🙂
Nice presentation!
Thanks!
Cool bike. Not my cup of tea, and not my idea of beautiful, but it's a quality machine, that's for sure.
What are your thoughts about dry clutch? Issues using friction zone in slow speed maneuvers compared to your Triumph? Thanks
Ahhhhh I didn’t know it was a dry clutch- maybe that’s why I didn’t find it quite as confident when going from neutral to first gear!! Sometimes I had to tap twice, of release and then re-engage the clutch hand lever to go from neutral to first! But apart from that, it’s ok🙂👌🏻
Is the r9t really a retro? Inearly bought its namesake the r90 in 1978, but was put off by the valve chatter even though it had the gorgeous "toaster" tank and sand cast engine casings which are sadly missing on the r9t. It still has the chatter though.
A good point and I'm not really sure if it is a retro. The r90 is a stunning bike, as is the R9t- it does need a little more character squeezed out of the exhaust somehow (although I don't blame BMW for that too much- it's more a sign of the times with euro5)
I'm surprised Monica can even last 15-minutes holding onto that beast.
Interesting comparison but the r9t is not designed as a modern classic anything really. Its more a retro naked sportster twin so better compared with the thruxton than the relaxed bonny. It out performs the bonny everywhere and is a generation or two more advanced so unfair on the bonny really. For touring or commuting the gs is a more comfortable bet especially for pillions!
The r9t is likely to remain more reliable and has a very potent engine. Fit and finish is streaks ahead. I have the gsa and there's nothing wrong with that gearbox. I think you mean clutch lever? Handling is excellent. One is more a daily commuter (the bmw) the other is a far more exciting ride with genuine sportsbike credentials.
Electric bike might be interesting but not for me. The engine and its character are the heart and soul of every motorbike...they are what make it special and memorable . Electric bikes? No thanks. Faster? Certainly off the line but big deal. Modern bikes are quick enough already. Keep ekectric for cars. Lets fly the flag for pistons, cranks, big bangs and loudish pipes!
I do agree- the Thruxton would be a better comparison and it isn't really fair on the Bonnie at all!😆
It really is a scarily quick bike the R9T, and the handling beautiful. I prefer the Bonneville gearbox's more confident "clonk" into gear.
I'm with you on electric bikes, especially regarding the speed. It's fun, initially, but the character and feel of the bike is where the enjoyment really lies (although I'm not a fast rider anyway, so I may not be the best person to comment on this!).
And modern bikes are already more than quick enough!
Thanks for the input Paul🙂
What model Bonneville is this please Freddie
2010 Bonneville- the base model. There are three variants from this 2008-2015 era: Bonneville (base), Bonneville SE (rev counter and fancy paint) and Bonneville T100 (as the SE, but with spoked wheels)🙂
'MY BONNEVILLE'
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The R Nine T is an achingly pretty motorcycle.. I'd buy it for its looks alone.. I want one!
Couldn't agree more!
And thank you!🙂🙌
agreed. I've owned an R Nine T Pure for the last 3 years and I love it. I've recently considered trading it in, so i've test rode a street triple 765, an S1000R and an R1250R. All of which are technically superior machines, the only one that came close to being a consideration was the R1250R, but it's just too ugly. It looks like i'll be keeping my R Nine T for the foreseeable future lol
Same. I never put any thought into getting a mc license until I saw one :)
Had my R9T for 10k km and I can’t imagine riding anything else. It crawls into your heart and stays there
Hi Freddie, your enthusiasm is infectious thanks mate
Thank you for the support Garry!🙂🙌🙌
Hi Freddie. Just wanted to let you know that this is the best bike review I’ve seen since a long time! Absolutely brilliant. Thanks for that and … keep on rocking! Chris
Hi Chris, Thank you so much, that means a lot! So glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for the support!
Nice review, and you make a very valid point between the aggressive and the relaxed spectrum of these retro bikes. I have a 2016 RNinet, the latest in a long line of bikes and I love the thing. I did make one mod to the original and that was add 2 inch risers (OEM from BMW) to sit a bit more upright, much easier on the wrists. I live in country Western Australia and all my rides are mostly long distance highway speed stuff. The Beemer is perfect for this style of ride, plenty of power, handles the bumps beautifully and has a useful range from the 18 litre tank (about 4 gallons). My only gripe is the lack of a fuel gauge (no biggy), everything else suits me down to the ground. This one is a keeper.
Thanks Barney!
That's a very good shout- I'd do the exact same mod if I owned an R9T- I can imagine it transforms the comfort!
I completely forgot to mention the lack of fuel gauge in the video- I agree that it really should have one!
Im coming over to wa soon , interesting you say its good on long rides as i was wondering , im in syd and just sold my bmw f800st which was a very good touring bike but now i want tottaly upright.
Great review. Had a Bonnie T100 back in 2012, then saw the RNineT at a test day and fell in love. Sold the Bonnie and have had my R9T since August 2014. Don’t plan to sell it ever! Exhaust note is wonderful because it’s still a Euro 4. Those Akrapovic pipes are stock by the way. Rode it down to Sardinia in 2015 and found it comfortable, but I’m only short (170cm). I think every penny extra over the Bonnie is worth it personally. It’s so well engineered and the 1200cc boxer engine is magnificent.
I do not buy a bike to take a pillion with me. She either makes the license and tour with her own bike, or stays at home ;) Taking a pillion with you, takes away all what makes riding fun.
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On one hand, Bonneville is more comfortable, has more space for luggage. On the other hand, R9T has a shaft drive, so you don't have to hassle with chain. Tough call
I may have a new favourite Brit Bike Blogger 👏🏻 Engaging commentary, bike passion and the scenic filming is top notch!
Thanks so much Di, I’m so glad you like it and thank you for the support!🙌🏻🙂
@@FreddieDobbs So much so that I came back for another watch tonight, and to annoy some of the lads in the comments section 😉
I'm 6' 1", do you find it cramped to ride?
BMW R Nine T 👍👍
Just came across this video and I'm a r9t pure owner. Regular forks and not as good suspention but fell in live with the Teal (light blue) color and was also a lower price. I call it my hooligan bike because at 70 I still love it's power band, the super brakes and style. BMW class it as a retro bike. I have toured on it and have done hours at 70-83 mph and throughly enjoy every part of it. 👍👍5🏍🙋♂️
Great insight, much appreciated mate.
After being taken out by a blue VW Van and loosing my 2020 BMW R1250 R and was pretty busted up myself, as soon as I could I specked out my replacement ride.
I ordered and have received my 2021 BMW R 1250 GS TRIPLE BLACK fully loaded with every option. After putting on 1,400k I’ve realized I specked the bike out with a defiant attitude in order to allow myself to calibrate the attitude and commitment I would require to fully throw myself into the Rehab process in order to achieve as high recovery as possible. It worked perfectly as I am at about 80% recovered. The only areas to focus on now are strength and endurance.
I feel this new ride in its sheer size, weight and due to its capabilities is zapping the Joy out of the ride for me. It has served its purpose and I fully appreciate it for all that it offers but I no longer have the need to concur the world. 😂
To put it bluntly, although I am a quiet man, I was pissed. In that I wasn’t going to allow someone who wasn’t paying attention while entering an roundabout Rob me of my Passion.
This new bike validated exactly what I felt and knew in my heart. Which is, that I had no anxiety, fear or concerns of riding.
So, my question is this. Between a 2023 R 1250 R and a 2023 R nineT Scrambler have you any insight on the comparison between these two?
How I’ve ended up narrowing it down to these two is that I love the Boxer, I have need for the capability for both Urban and fire route roads in to North cottages and country roads but as well I would like to have a the capability of saddle bags. A passenger is not a high requirement but hey you never know.
I am having a tough time deciding as they each offer a different limited mix of my requirements but neither offer them all.
Much appreciated
Cheers 👍🏍🇨🇦
I hope all is going well for you mate 👍🛣️
Love your reviews!! BMW should just give you this bike as a way of thanking you for the excellent unbiased marketing you are doing! You’ve convinced me and this could definitely be my next bike (and I’m a Triumph guy too)!!
Thanks so much Robert, hugely appreciated!🙂
Freddie, your review was the final nail in the coffin as i am picking up a 2018 r nine t vintage. Your passionate review relieved all doubts i had.
Your review is so spot on & honest. I own the R9T and i know all the pros & cons you referred to in this video. i now wish to rider a triumph just to see if i can consider one for my next bike.
First time here! There is something refreshing about the simplicity and content delivery, thanks for sharing, sub'd 🍻I think the R1250 R is supposed to be similar-ish but more on the naked / futuristic look side. Have you ridden an ADV bike before? They're very comfy! It would be great if you reviewed the riding gear as well 👌🏻
Thank you so much for the support Aimen, hugely appreciated!
Funnily enough, I’d never considered the R1260R, but since I’ve had the R9T, you’re the fourth person to say it’s a superb bike and significantly more comfortable.
I’ve never ridden an ADV bike in my life- I’ll try and get one to try🙂
And I’ll get some gear review videos in there too- great shout!
I had a Bonneville 900 on Kauai and it was a perfect motorcycle for that island. There is only a few miles of the island where you can get the speed up to 60mph and the balance was nice for the mostly flat riding on the island. It was particularly fun on the twisty canyon road up to the Waimea canyon overlooks. I never got to ride one here on the Big Island but I imagine it to be underpowered for the steep hills of the Big Island and getting up to highway speed up the Haleakala Highway on Maui would have also been a stretch. Probably because I didn’t try that either. The other thing is the brakes on the Triumph were crap for quick stops on Kauai. Another thing is that it is a bit too light for the high wind conditions that you encounter on Maui and the Big Island. My current 2000 BMW r1100r is a great bike for the Big Island that gets me over saddle road at 80 to 100mph and on the twisty roads that are all over the upper road on the leeward side. I like the bike a lot but drawbacks of the old BMW, like sure-footedness on fast tight corners, no ABS brakes and a heavy feel to the bike in a few of the 180 degree corners in Kona make me thirst for the R9T more than any other bike as potentially the best bike for my home island. One bike to rule them all. I know that there is no such thing. I also had a 2018 KTM 790 and that was fantastic for the beat up roads and was even better at cornering than my BMW r1100r but a big drawback was that riding slowly along the ocean side road was unpleasant because the engine runs hot and gets too warm on the seat. I liked that bike but it was incorrectly put together at the dealership so I just turned the bike back in. I also didn’t like the chain after having ridden mostly BMW for the past 10 years. I also had a GS Adventure on this island but that was too much for many of the riding conditions of this island and too tall to park because there is never flat surface to park on here. I also liked the handling in corners better on my old r1100r than on the GS.
The Bonnie 900s only have a single front disc so it's hardly fair to compare it to the twin discs of the R1100R.
Do you service your own bike Freddie? If so some videos would be great ,as i am just getting in to servicing my street twin.Triumph's pretty expensive for dealer servicing.
I do service it myself, great idea- I'll do a video of maintenance next time I do some. Thanks Michael!
Love my 2020 R Nine T Pure. The riding experience is addictive!
I really like the look of the Pures- beautiful bikes!🖤👌🏻
Just came across your channel as keep looking for RnineT content. No joke... yours has been the best so far. I’ve subscribed and smashed the bell. Look forward to more content 👍🏽🤟🏽🏍
Thank you so much Franco, that means a lot!!🙂🙌🏻🙌🏻
Great video. I'd love the R Nine T as a second one
Agreed!
I just came to see if anyone was talking about the missing T in the thumbnail 😂
I’ve only just noticed!😆
Enjoyed your work & style of presentation.
Aren't the helmet too expensive, here we get RE helmets, Axor, smk, ignyte helmets etc starting from 15 pounds to 45 pounds and about 70 pounds for the super expensive ones. But the ones you show are all around 150 pounds which is almost 10 times the price of the average ones we vet here.
the beginning of the video is the most stupid comparison I have ever seen !!! ... the end makes up for it though ... I had a 2019 thruxton 1200 and this Bmer beats it on all front by miles ... same for my 2022 T120 Bonneville... Got rid of the thruxton when I bought he 9RT, still have the Bonnie, it's sweet, comfortable, but not sporty and exciting as the 9RT ... and not turning heads as much either ;-)
Looks wise... BMW definetly wins. By far. So far you cant even see the Triumph.
Great vlog! Much appreciate the user’s view. I must ask one technical question though: how does it feel riding a dry clutch on what seems like a powerful bike ? Would the dry clutch wear out quickly when commuting in the city ? Thanks
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Love the look of this BMW but for me its like a bobber not practical enough. I need more utility and function but if o had a bigger garage and more 💰 i would have one
Just got to the 6:30 min part of the video - and think its a bit of an unfair comp - you have an aftermarket seat on the the Bonne and don't think you've really investigated the aftermarket options for seats or panniers for the r9t. I test rode both of the bikes and opted for the R9T - shifting, suspension and overall ride quality is much better on the BMW - happy to go on another ride with you and compare - but i stand by my statements
You're absolutely right- I was wrong about the aftermarket luggage options on the RnineT🙂
The Bonneville's seat is a standard Triumph aftermarket one (it did leave the factory like this).
I find the Bonneville more comfortable, but the BMW definitely far superior in terms of dynamism and performance!🙂
Just stumbled on this video, Eynsford- not been for years but the plough is where I took my long term girlfriend on a blind date over 20 years ago.
Follow the road past the plough and visit Lulungston Roman Villa
Must get back there one day
Great bike,..but I hate the pillion seat and for me that's a show stopper regards my wife and touring. They should have designed a similar seat on the front..not this padded plank !
Wunderlich do a touring seat, nearly 500£ it's wider, rounded like the front seat so there are ways around this issue however regards touring one is totally sunk. ..the R9T is a lovely bike for the city one up, anything else with a pillion is a showstopper.
So what bike does tick all my boxes in the BMW stable,... The XR., So iam sticking with that decission.
If I was single, the R9T and a rucksack will be perfect, the tear seat is disappointing BMW wack on the comfort seat for heaven's sake and wack on a luggage grille for a bit of flexibility.
Nice report Freddie, cheers.😜👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Hallo Freddie, just few considerations about the T Nine version but before saying anything I want to say that I drove Bmw’s for over 30 years and the latest was a T nine Urban Gs a great bike easy to handle and the sound was the best among the other Nine T’s but then after so many years i decided to buy a Thruxton rs a completely different bike in all aspects thou the weight is similar the rest is simply a symphony of beauty excellent handling even the weight seemed lighter on the Triumph and the pillion is much more comfortable.
But don’t get me wrong The R nine t remain one of the best bikes
Greetings from Italy
I really like the RnineT with its Boxer engine, shaft drive, and looks. But I’m really short so the ergonomics are horrible for me. Not so much the seat height, but the distance from the seat to the bars is too far. I’m going to buy a Triumph Speed Twin 900.
What an outstanding and passionate review. You spoke about your love for the Triumph and you explained how this one is equally as special. Probably my next bike. 🥰
Great content. The side by side comparo you did was tops
Thanks very much, really glad you enjoyed the video!🙂
The seat on your Bonneville looks different than just a flat one on T120 , not sure why.
Maybe I'm missing something :)
Hi Freddie, thanks for the video.
if I may, and please only take this as a constructive observation and in no way consider this a negative critique : You should try to improve the management of your audio tracks and their respective volumes. The brutal music track cut out at 13:46 and the significant difference in volume with your voice is quite surprising when using headphones. Was this maybe done by mistake ?
Improving the overall audio management of your videos would significantly improve their global quality. Just a thought.
Hi Samuel,
Thanks so much for these pointers- I'll take all of these on board and aim to improve the audio quality🙂
I really appreciate your input, thank you
hi Freddie,
thank you for your review. I have been watching reviews of this monster for almost 1.5 yrs now waiting to be able to buy it, and your vlogs about it are the best, most complete, most honest, clearest and useful I've watched.
Thnks for making everything clear, every detail and every information that could me needed.
keep it up.
Hi Antonio,
Thank you so much, I'm so glad you enjoyed the review!🙂
I hope you manage to buy one soon- it's a dream of a bike!
Are you French? You certainly wave your hands and arms around like a Frenchman.
The Triumph is an Asian bike and the BMW is European so there is no comparison.
very fine to comapare these 2 bikes .
the UK is the most not refined and handling one , another thing is you can not compare these bikes as they are at deferent level. BMW will newer go down this way , but they will repair or replace your damaged engine ecccc..........
Hey, Freddie! :) You may want to upgrade to a lav mic for when the camera is a couple of meters away! :)
is the large boxer annoying on the bmw ? Specially when you come between tigh spaces
Have you seen the BMW R nineT 100 Years ? what a stunning looking bike that is !
I think that’s HIS Triumph Bonneville.
What do you think?
What's up with these lean angle comparisons? These are not race bikes, and only a tiny fraction of the customers of these will come close to bottoming out the lean angles on either of the two bikes. If they are taking it on a track.
i get your case about the lean angle but whos going to be riding a triumph to scrap elbows?!
I had one almost identical to that for about three years. Agree with you on the level of engineering and looks, but even at 5’9” I found it uncomfortable after a relatively short while. Also the suspension was very harsh and so I never did very many miles on it - even less so after developing a dodgy back. I don’t think the tubed tyres helped, which were always a bugbear on such an expensive bike. At the time I bought it, in 2015, the BMW dealer was telling me it was a short run special! Incidentally the KTMs I was running at the same time, with WP suspension, were like a magic carpet ride.
I would buy r nine because of easy valve adjustment. Sorry hate going to mechanic
Its like watching Paul Bettany reviewing bikes.
Just a small note. Hepco & Becker make the C-Bow pannier carrier for the R Nine T.
Also, the pillion isn't an issue for me. Having been rear-ended, I quit carrying a passenger 15 years ago.
Oh wow, thanks for the heads up James- I'm a huge Hepco and Becker fan and it's great that they do a C-Bow for it! Ahhh, I don't blame you at all re pillion carrying! What an incredible bike the R9T is!🖤
Hi, I'm 180 cm tall, do you think this bike would be too small for me?
As an owner of a 2020 euro 4 R nine T with the standard twin Akra I can confirm that euro 5 really toned it down. The stock euro 4 sound is really fruity !
Very interesting insight. I really did get the impression that there was a characterful engine desperate to get out, but it was being strangled by the exhaust!
Bonneville is no match for the nineT ugly as sin oh but wait beauty is in the eyes of the beholder… my nine T is amazing