RNG and Evil Geniuses win titles / NA talent on the rise? - Summoning Insight S5E12 (feat. Dagda)
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Join MonteCristo and Thorin with guest Robert "Dagda" Price, LPL color caster and analyst, as they discuss the LPL and LCS finals, Evil Geniuses and RNG's victories, the rise of NA players jojopyun and Danny, previewing MSI, the upcoming Asian games qualifiers, the chances of G2 and T1 and MSI, and more.
This episode was filmed on April 25th, 2022.
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0:00:00 - Channel updates and talent for upcoming events
0:09:58 - Problems at MSI and the Asian Games
0:24:35 - Thoughts on the LCS Finals weekend
0:49:09 - kkOma resigns from Team Korea
1:02:35 - Dagda intro + thoughts on the LPL season
1:08:05 - RNG vs Top Esports
1:25:18 - Victory Five
1:34:48 - LPL meta + how will RNG match up at MSI?
1:44:45 - Evil Geniuses vs 100 Thieves
2:02:30 - Team Liquid
2:10:09 - NA talent + Impact
2:28:56 - MSI predictions
2:35:38 - Uzi to JDG rumors + closing LPL thoughts
2:50:26 - Viewer Questions: Opera recommendations
2:54:12 - LoL esports anime script
2:58:16 - Warcraft 3 stories
3:01:45 - Most inaccurate LoL esports narrative
3:03:56 - Most fulfilling job outside of esports
3:04:57 - Sad sights at live events
3:05:16 - Advice for casters and podcast hosts
3:13:41 - Bjergsen and superteams
3:15:58 - Favorite detective movies
3:18:52 - Perfect LoL esports opening ceremony
3:21:04 - Which teams will win the next domestic titles?
3:21:40 - Where will Bo go?
3:22:28 - Reactions to CS:GO Major talent announcement
3:27:31 - What makes a successful year for T1?
3:28:35 - CoreJJ's improvement
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The real tragedy of this MSI will be when EG gets absolutely shit on, and 100T/TL fans flame Jojo and the rest of the team for “being useless”, pretending that it would be any different if their team had won LCS instead.
Tbf 100T/TL looked decent at their last international showings, so if EG just shits the bed and goes like 2-8 in rumble then they would have some ground to stand on
The part about Vince McMahon being the best fit for LCS comissioner was great haha
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Monte has a million dollar chuckle. Priceless!!!
Thorin with the absolute CHAD take on the Upset situation.
timestamp please?
I listen to too many thoorin podcasts.... Which take was it here?
Dont remember timestamp but it was early af, started somewhere between like15 and 25mins
@@lFalconzZl around 36 min
Monte as a caster is actually why I started watching lol. Saw his cast and thought damn this guy Doesn't give a fuck 🤣
The casters are a HUGE reason why I started, and continue to watch pro LoL.
I loved watching Monte Casting or Trolling other casters at the analyst desk
Completely agree with you on the MSI controversy. The amount of ridiculous takes I've seen on reddit just baffles me. How is this solution remotely fair to literally every other team who qualified for MSI?
Then be Elon Buy Riot , Talk is Cheap when Money is King .
@@vorlon81 Tru but u don't see this in any other esports. (For example csgo)
@@alexilike36 CSGO is not a MOBA, playing with 35ms is just not doable for fps .
Actually Kinda funny how the season long faves in LPL,NA,and EU - V5, TL, and FNC... didnt even make the finals... and instead teams with a "G" in the name won each league... RNG, EG, and G2!!!!!!!! LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO!!! G2 G2 G2 G2 coming for that MSI victory.
@@Habeev07 if only gen g win LCK then you get 4 g
Some of my favorite before and after (the guest) segments. Great work!
Thanks for titling your video like that, saves me the time of getting to watch the matches...
While I agree with the sentiment about NA talent, one thing I feel like has become a talking point between the podcasts this week is that EG is pushing this narrative about NA talent. I felt like it is more the on air broadcasting and community that are forcing it more then the org itself. Yes they have to respond to it, but I don't feel like they've been making the choice to push it themselves as much as it seems.
4 horseman episode about Kespa would be straight fire
It's fun being a boomer, you get and laugh at Thooorin's jokes, that Rock reference was too good :)
Boomers>Zoomers. We did it all first. We broke in the 00's internet (Ebaumsworld, Limewire, Halo 1/2/3 LANS, WOW, and we were all friends with "TOM' from MS, FourLoko blackout phases) and everything zoomers do now is just a repackaged, repurposed, reguritated boomer experience.
When he said sone bjersen games and jensen i dont know if he meant just midlaners but Impact and Jensen basically carried cloud9/liquid multiple worlds for years. Itd be underrated to have them back together.
Always great to see my boy dagda
I LOVE THIS FREAKING SHOWWW!!!
90% of every single person who watches LoL doesnt give a single fk about fancy pre/post shows or panels, all we want are good competent casters who are enjoyable to listen to and good games. Nothing else matters.
This is not ture. Watching LEC is way more fun than watching LCS because the segments inbetween games are much more fun.
@@justletitallend8997 You may think so but im 100% sure that MOST ppl who watch either LCS, LCS, LPL or LEC just watch the games then they do smth else inbetween games because noone rly gives a fk what the ppl on the panels has to say because its all made up bullshit to make the games SOUND more interesting because you realise that its SCRIPTED right?
They script the panels about 1-2 days prior to the games and they rehearse it and all that shit. . . . Its so scripted its cringe.
BUT hey your free to have your opinion i just dont think the majority agree with you.
Yup. That's why when people sjokz isn't hosting it's like welp who cares.
@@Gurpreet-sv5zg Totally agree, ive enjoyed Sjokz hosting for close to 10 years now and shes always been great and funny but the whole League format now is so dumb to watch theese days...
Games takes about 1.5h per Bo3 or 20-30m in Bo1 so in LCS/LEC its 4 games per evening so 1.5-2h of games and 2-3 h of panels talking nonsene the whole time.
Just do a few (tops 5) minutes of post game talk discussing some statistics etc then drop a break timer until next game so ppl can tune out and go on with their lives for that time and come back shortly before next games picknbans. . .
@Peter P We arent talkng about ppl AT the event , they are obv staying for that shit or they wouldnt have come for the event.
We are only talking about ppl watching YT or Twtich streams. Or atleast i was.
Bro I thought I’ve been subscribed for the past 6 months!!!! Well I am now
thanks for the pod
25:00 they actually did talk about both of these things prior to Saturday's games. At least in the stadium, I'm not sure about what was shown on stream
Your discussion about the importance of broadcasters are so true, I feel like they are actually legitimizing the game as an e-sport. A good shoutcaster can make any game intresting to watch. Riot should pay their peoples that are in the forefront of their e-sport scene and stop skimping out on streamers, shoutcasters, play-by-play and analysts. Also I feel like you can really see why big companies virtue signal only when it benefits them to follow trends and garner good boy points but as soon as it starts cutting into their profit they pull out instantly. They are not doing that out of kindness. So always question when a big corporations all of a sudden start campaigning for some cause or only sometimes actually enforce their own rules. It just suits them then.
Speaking of amazing casters RIP Ray Fosse. Legend of the broadcast for the Oakland Athletics. Insane knowledge of the sport and history of the team. Always enjoyed hearing his voice on television or radio. Broadcasters are very important to longevity of a sport. League is forever a faux sport.
Thorin’s references are always on point
This is gonna be another episode of Summoning Insight, where I Mr. esports and Monte talk shit about the League of Legends Pro scene.
35 ping is a NA buff because it better matches the ping in solo queue so it's definitely gonna end with Na LCS winning msi
really appreciate dagda's insight, the lpl has trained him to have a really good eye for the game
Playing for your country is viewed differently based on where you live and how important is that sport. In football (real one 😀), international events always have priority over leagues. Especially when they happen once very 4 years. It's somewhat hard for Americans to understand that maybe it's not everything about money.
International events in football are a lot about money as well. Players get a shit ton of sponsoring deals and just exposure because of those events. Playing a good world cup is the best self-promotion you can do for your playing career. There are enough events in international football no one really cares about like Nations League, Confederation cup or football Olympics.
Not necssessrily. Look at how NBA>olympics basketball when it comes to both viewership and money.
@@jazeroliversy673 but that's an off case, not for the rest of Sports and Countries, I think Olympics basketball are far more important to many EuroLeague players than their own league(s) for example
Sure - the difference is that your professional team doesn't get punished for some other team not being able to play due to those national commitments in any regural sport.
Braindead EU doesn't realize how money is involved in international soccer lmfao, yeah they're just playing in Qatar for the honor of the sport amirite.
Now it makes sense why Meteos was drawing twice hahaha
What if the most toxic western superteam formed and won everything?
Top: Darkwin Jax
Jungle: Selfmade
Mid: Jensen(never went to NA)
ADC: Forgiven
Support: Ap0calypse
Who the hell is that top and support :p
@@AleXoEx0 1)is a giga Chad, Tyler 1 looks beta compared to him. 5) do you know low nine?
@@AleXoEx0
Darkwin Jax was a very talented but very toxic Jungler who was ID banned and Banned from going pro. he was on a shortlived team called TeamSoloMebdi that included YamatoCannon, Jensen, and Nukeduck
Ap0calypse is an extremely toxic Pre-Rework Mord Jungle main who later became Rank 1 on EUW playing Support mostly Janna. was part of the L9 group that included Selfmade and RatIRL
Inspired and Impact are the two dads giving their boy Danny extra quarters to continue his Time Crisis run lol
10 years of Lcs is 2023 not 2022. First ever NALCS/EULCS season was spring 2013
Edit: So that my wording is clear. Yes this is, technically speaking, the 10th year of competition BUT not even LCK celebrated it. LCK celebrated the anniversary year, because OGN Champions started in 2012 so, technically speaking, they're in their 11th year of competition. It's just must better for all involved to celebrate the anniversary because it's an easier sell and there would be 0 confusion about the wording because I guarantee people would be confused of a 10 year celebration happening on the mathematical 9th year.
yeah so we are technically in the 10th year no?
@@NoradNoxtus next year starts the 10th year. This is currently 9th year. OGN started Champions in 2012 which is why the LCK celebrated the 10th anniversary this split
@@HeckMayster. technically this is the “10th” year of LCS but you’re right its not the 10 year anniversary until next year. Same as Korea, this is technically the 11th year of pro Korean LoL but they celebrate the anniversary after 10 years is complete.
@@LettucePlate yes hence why the insisting on Lcs to be doing what Korea did is odd to me. If next year they do absolutely nothing about it, then yes all this commentary/criticism is warranted. Celebrating the 10th year but the not the 10th anniversary is not an easy sell. While we would understand what they mean, general audience looks at the dates and wonders "wtf 2013 was 9 years ago". And if you celebrate a 10th something 2 years in a row you just look like you're reaching for reasons to oversell your product.
This has seemed odd to me as well. Usually anniversaries are marked when the significant year is completed, not when it starts.
I’m sad they didn’t ask dagda his thoughts on the huangfang trying to poison one of his former teammates story
The idea of young thoorin waiting till xmas for tips only to quit the next day for an N64 as his only other job outside esports is both fitting and apt
3:17:40 I believe Monte is referring to what is known as The Hays Code, interesting stuff regarding censorship in early Hollywood though this wasn't really explicit censorship more like guidelines for what was decent to show in movies at the time.
I remember begging RNG to get Rookie after Cryin left. Obviously they won LPL anyway, but imagine that team.
I love the new MSI format to be honest. Love seeing best teams stomping weak teams, and also I love to see some unexpected resistance out of these minor regions. It really way better format than the one before.
Cringe. We need the major region champions (4 teams) seeded into round 2 and then have a 2nd seed from the major regions who can play in group 1 with all the lower leagues and fight for the 4 spots remaining, 8 teams overall in round 2. Let them play vs the major regions but let them outperform the major regions 2nd best to have a shot at the prime part of the tourney.
You guys are good at this.
I hope TSM signs Bo "Team Selling Matches" needs to happen
I like MSI, doesnt have a good rep but I really enjoy this mid season tournament
I wish these two would run LoL- eSports
I want Monte to be the father of my children
I can totally understand that
Godfather
Cringe
Monte, I’m begging you, try to find the Grubby video.
TL could've had an all Korean roster
Impact
Korean import
Korean import
Arrow/tactical
Corejj
why not games involving chinese team at 35p and all other games on normal tournament ping, that would be better
Probably worse to be fair - you need to learn 2 different response rates from your hardware. Imagine a sprinting race, but when running against one particular person you run barefoot. All the rest of the time you have to wear shoes
Advantage china because they only have to play at one ping
why was dom banned and not dl? because he's got more viewers, exposures etc compared to dom, riot doesn't care about shit if you got the clout and power
Dom told the story of why he got banned. Riot invited the pro players to their hq to show off upcoming skins and Dom and qtpie just made fun of how awful they were and the how awful the splash art was. People at Riot got super salty and started "investigating" IWD and qtpie to find reasons to ban them, and qtpie was only saved because Scarra convinced Riot that qtpie was autistic.
Also a different time.
When i see how hard eg botlane was losing lane in lcs im scared to see what will happen against guma kera gala ming
Gumayusi and keria are the only bot lane at msi that will actually be able to win lane against them. EG is good at funneling gold into Danny and t1 is the only team at msi whose macro is good enough to stop that most likely
@@emceemikey Danny/Vulcan have lost lane to other worse bot lanes. Every international bot including VCS/PCS will hard gap them. They are very bad at laning in general. EG nacro is not good at all. It's that no one in NA can play properly. TL can't even snowball their large leads because Bwipo is running it or Bjergsen is too busy playing KDA. C9 can't even help Summit. 100T has Abba/FBI running it.
@@emceemikey EG botlane rarely wins lane. They lost lane pretty hard in game 1 and 2 against TL and they were even dying to 100t botlane. But that is true that the rest of the team bails out their botlane. Their objective is to make it out of laning phase. Danny weakness is lane but he is a good teamfighter. But being this unstable in lane would be a real problem against well organised teams.
@@danielbernoulli1405 I should rephrase- T1 is the only bot lane who will be able to win hard enough for it to actually matter, because as we saw even Hans plus core farming Danny under tower has no impact on egs ability to play out their comp
Like unless we rewrite the narrative so that targamas and flakked are actually good in lane I think that will go quite similarly to 100T series
I think individually EGs roster will level up a ton before msi because na teams usually do. Impact is still one of the best top laners in the world and always does well in international games. EG will do fine at msi, Monte is being a doomer like always and thorin is a biased euro like always haha
@@emceemikey T1 isn’t the only threat. If you want international success losing lane every game in bot is a huge liability for EG. And the games EG played against TL were not stomps. Game 1 and 2 were really close and could have gone both ways even with the draft edge EG had both games. Danny and vulcan have to step up during laning phase. Their teammates wont be able to help them as much as they did in LCS against the major league teams. T1 RNG G2 all have a rly strong topside and solid laners. I believe that at the highest level of play, laning is more important than teamfighting thats why i have more hope for jojo than EG botlane for msi. Jojo showed really good laning and looked like the best laner in LCS. It doesn’t matter how good you are at teamfighting if your adc is 2k gold behind after laning phase you’re going to lose the fights against top teams. I believe that EG performance at MSI will heavily depend on their botlane’s laning phase.
what is the twitch channel? i don't see any in the description, can someone tell me?
Same as the yt channel name iirc
Here's some hopium - EG loses to T1 in the MSI final.
how does having a player winning the asian games not bring you any sponsorship value? Someone explain to me how that wouldn't impact the player's visibility and likeness, specifically in asia, and up his resell value?
Because in Asian cultures it is more about loyalty and do you fit the mold rather than all those other factors you mentioned. It's why some of those great korean players would get kicked out of teams if they misbehaved.
Doublelift was streaming Halo for the "AT&T AllihinatorCup", a 5 week streamer tourny kind of thing on friday and missed his flight to Houston because that took to long. Seems weirdly coincidental he'd value that stuff over LCS finals with the Upset thing going on, maybe that's a convenient excuse, maybe he's too stupid to even come up with that and I'm giving him too much slack. But h was on stream saying "I'm gonna miss my flight" n shit
good news for you guys, moon and players like grubby do still play tournaments, in fact today moon and foggy played a event to help ukraine
the part that is hard for me with letigres is the pitch if her voice goes up and down to extremes cause it seems like she thinks a play is stopping and when it doesn't goes back to the high extreme and that is like continuous where it just gives me a headache
I think the issue with her is she is trying to force some Flower type of play by play but it's just doesn't flow well and it's a lot of yelling (high pitch).
What a nice distraction from the nightmare of modernity
Loved when thorin called impact and inspired a bunch of nobodies :^)
Tyler1 likely getting paid 100K or more by Riot after being permabanned ~6 years ago.... Truly this is the dankest timeline.
2:10:09
Not going to lie I ended up stopping watching nemesis's content and streams after what he said about the upset situation. I mean at least Adam has the excuse of been directly involved and i can see why your foundational player leaving at a major event could be frustrating the other people dont even have that excuse.
What did nemesis say?
2:50 cuts a bit too close to the bone lmao
I think it’s a bit of a stretch to say DL started a “hate brigade” on Upsets wife. He pretty much said the memes and jokes surrounding the situation were hilarious. Was it the right thing to say? Obviously not. But a hate brigade? Nah
He could have unintentionally started the brigade. I don't think that's a stretch. DL isn't to blame for some of his idiot followers taking him laughing at memes as a greencard to go harass Upset about it of course, but that doesn't make it a stretch to say he started it, just unintentionally started it.
2:13:16 :DD
"Riot announced the formation of the LCS on August 6th, 2012", "First LCS event February 7th, 2013" Not sure why they're ranting about LCS finals not revolving around the 10 year LCS anniversary when the date is pretty clear when it officially began
I think EG can actually succeed imternationally. They remind me a lot of 2018 C9 bc the strong weakside top Licorice/Impact then the adc not know for best laning (Sneaky ...and now Danny IN LANE) But always shined in the teamfight. SNEAKY WAS A TEAMFIGHT GOD. And guess what...Fiddlesticks got buffed. PLAY FIDDLE AT MSI INSPIRED. EG FIGHTING!
Holy wait i havent considered the inspired fiddle angle
well hes not wrong.. lol i do watch this 3 hour talk show to escape from the shit reality that is my life.
Danny didn't get back in games for free. EG consistently out team fought other teams and Danny would get kills.
*Checks notes*
"CHILDRENS VIDEO GAME"
45 min in and still no content on games?
Too bad it’s not organized like FIFA with built in international breaks
Least demonic shit on the internet. hahah
Zoe zigs team comp just does not work imo. The team comp does not have any source of consistent AD damage, meaning enemy team can easily itemize against it with merc treads etc. this is why Diana will usually play with either 3ad/tf or 4ad so she can build full AP without being itemized against.
Pog
let's go man
Your point about the NHL and their players is 100% a correct one. However, as a hockey fan, you calling the NHL a real sport is funny considering they themselves cannot enforce their own rules to protect their most marketable players. How much of a flaming gong show pro LoL must be for the fucking NHL be held up as a standard of quality, I do not dare to know.
Not trying to stan for DL or anything but i disagree with their take on this. DL stated that the jokes about Upsets wife were funny to him, he himself didnt even make a joke about it. And this was prior to the tweet from Upsets wife implying the reason for Upset leaving worlds was because she was being abused. After this was made public he recanted his statement and apologized.
So i mean It was a ignorant comment made in jest with no malice behind it. Context actually paints a different picture i think.
In trying to compare eSport and motivating Riot to treat LOL like normal sports, you have also completely lost sight of the same flaws in the sports you mention. For example, in the NHL, one could argue that by demanding players stay with Franchises, you are essentially saying Money is more important than the sport. Which you just happened to rail against in the discussion about the LPL, China and MSI. This is the inherent flaw in ALL sports. Money is more important than sport. Be that the Olympics (the corrupt IOC), Football (FIFA, UEFA and the super clubs), NFL (Owners moving franchises), NBA (being beholden to China)...all flawed because of money.
Whats the link between NBA and china?
@@ThePolarpop 2019 Hong Kong protests and Daryl Morey's comments at the time, the subsequent reaction (and lack of reaction) from the NBA and leading players like LeBron
The NHL is a really bad example, because... well... they are the American League, that is doing the worst... why? Well... maybe, because they ruin their big, free promotional event by not sending their best players.
For context: Here in Europe, there was one major event, that kick-started the growth of Basketball: The Dreamteam playing in the Olympics in Barcelona in 92. Many of the European Stars of the 00er years like Nowitzki and the Gasol brothers always mention this event.
And the NBA started their 2021 season really early, so their Finals would be done before the Olympics, because they could send their best players... and, of course, you don't want to compete with the biggest sports event in the World for viewership.
We, as an esports community, should be excited, that League of Legends is considered an Olympic sport event by the Asian Olympic Committee. In Germany, we are still years away from that acceptance. Getting it would be huge.
And since Monte and Thorin talk about this "they should treat it like real sport" thing: here is some breaking news: Every sport league except the NHL plans in free time for big national team competition. (Oh and the NFL, but that sport might be too complex for national teams...) Now club managers in Soccer complain about it, but that is just, because they are too ignorant to acknowledge, what a big part the World Cup played in growing the sport to its enormous status in the world...
The chinese government is why we can't have nice things. Thanks for enlightening me!
Funny to me how people want to discredit danny by saying "they just draft to protect him" when uzi did the same thing for 10 years and everyone said he was the best adc in the world
If all you have to do is draft to protect the adc and you win no matter what, why hasnt anyone else adopted this strategy? Anything to shit on na players....
The difference is UZI was A) An MSI winner, B) Eye test is much better C) Uzi had a "Badboy" 2 years playing professionally, it took him quite a while to be this good. Namei was better than him D) He was never propped as the best adc player in his rookie years because he power ints, His always being played around playstyle was seen as a negative. E) they only changed they opinion on UZi after proving that he doesn't choke teamfights. Danny played teamfights well, hes clearly good but he's power inting lane which Uzi was criticized for as well (terrible positioning in team fights). Unless Danny polishes his Laning phase then he isn't the best player at all in his team. IMPACT and Inspired held on every single time to get to team fights, Similarly Xiaohu had the same reputation in UZis earlier days, Xiaohu is the spring split tiger. Casuals don't remember how good Xiaohu is as Perkz clapped him but he was never Chinas mid table mids, he's always elite level because he knows how to play around UZI. UZi was also the clear cut best ADC in the league in every aspect unless he limit tests, Danny is not head and shoulders above Hans sama which Uzi was to everyone. People also learned from UZi, about 60% of Chinese Adcs are Uzi subs, Danny will take a bit more to reach that stature.
@@killuafan4365 never said danny was the best player on the team but somehow he's getting flamed despite playing very well, minus the early lane ints. Not to mention, teamfighting is objectively more important than laning. Ask alphari. Danny averaged 1.5 deaths per game in playoffs. Saying he legit ints is quite a stretch. Go look how many times the mvp of the league (summit) died per game in playoffs
@@ricksimpson5563 this is nit picking, you CANNOT give Gala and Gumayusi early kills and they WILL definitely solo kill Danny if they could. Neither ADs have weaknesses and have strengths that destroys Danny even in teamfights, they also have pocket picks. Danny is not being flamed here, just the community being delusional about NA talent. They were not the best players on EG, that's not flame. Claiming it's flame is the definition of strawman.
@@killuafan4365 lol they have no weaknesses? Saying something like that immediately makes your point null. Meanwhile, my whole point was there's no reason to shit on danny, while at the same time we have half the league which is imports who are playing like trash. Have a nice day
Unfortunately for Le Tigress casting her voice pitch is too high, so when she is hyped and talking loud, it's not very comfortable to listen to.
Imo it's the same way with troubleINC in LEC.
Also i just wanna say that i dont think EU/NA will ever have stronger leagues then the Asians because the culture and player mentality in the west is wastly diffrent and very lazy in comparison.
If u watch the T1 players do interviews u can hear them say how the wake up at 10 ish in the morning and then they scrim for 10 hours , then soloQ for 2 hours and inbetween this they will also have team meatings , planning etc.
In NA its been proven that most pros dont even play 5 SoloQ games per WEEK . . . While i dont think SoloQ should be mandatory what so ever i do think it shows interest in getting better or not.
I have no fucking clue what theyre talking about on Vex here. Very lame duck champ. The pick just kinda goes even in lane and does nothing all game. I’m sure Danny has nothing to worry about…
You can't be serious.
@@uberhikari You will see. Rookie’s Vex has never seen anything like Danny Phantom.
didnt doublelift play finals with TL after his brother murdered his mother.... just saying he a unique perspective on urgent family matters.
Holy shit did you just stop watching before they literally discuss that exact point?
What perspective did he give when two situations are entirely different?
Monte so salty that Papa's team got blasted. Loved him saying 100T "should have won" just because they got 400 gold leads in a couple games, as if 100T is even remotely at a level that they can reliably close games with miniscule leads like that. Also, who gives a shit if EG does bad at MSI... you really think 100 Trolls who was garbage at Worlds last year or yet another loser Bjergsen team would smash it?
is a bit of haterism on a rookie,
On the topic of LeTigress, she is literally the only caster in any esport I can think of who's voice is actively irritating to me. From your statements this seems to be a popular opinion which I didn't know, but makes sense and as Thorin said unfortunately that is like the hardest thing to change.
I like frokirins voice but letigres voice is pretty anoying.
jokers
I totally disagree. Prioritizing national team above clubs is always the common practice. For instance, in soccer world, who is going to give up chance to play in European cup, and copa America?
As a sport, it is the leagues duty to align with the highest sports committee on timelines.
About RNG playing on higher ping. I believe RNG has shown intention to skip MSI, and Riot decided to work with RNG instead of finding replacement like how they did it in S10 for Vietnamese team. It is different from what Monte stated . But this opens up some interesting concept of hosting fully online tournament in the future . Esports he's life span is very short compare to traditional sports. I wouldn't imagine this tournament still exist years later. There is no way for Riot to run leagues like basketball or soccer
Why do you guys keep supporting Riot? Cover some DotA or something.
MY HOT TAKE IS EG winning msi
I’m gonna laugh so hard when EG shits on G2 at msi and thorin makes more copium excuses about how bad Na is
Get outside lad. Don't hate watch a guy more successful than you
I doubt China will cancel the Asia games because it’s admitting they failed at containing Covid. Guarantee you they won’t delay it
China already failed covid when they had to forcibly contained their own citizens.
what? Do you know the reason why China wants to cancel it is because they have a zero-Covid policy. As in, they don't want to allow potential Covid carriers IN.
@@kissblade8587 They let in athletes and journalists during the Beijing Olympics. If suddenly they changed stance and said they don't want to bring them in for the Asia games when cases around the world have gone down relative to when the Olympics happened, then that can look bad on their government. It would paint them as not being able to contain their Covid situation at home relative to their situation in February
lol that is so true… same reason they have to maintain COVID 0 policy right now when it doesn’t even make sense… cuz they were laughing so hard all over the media when other countries were getting over 50k daily cases with low deaths and hospitalizations, and that if they don’t do COVID 0 anymore, the government would lose a lot of credibility cuz cases are bound to spike to crazy numbers… 😂 hence the Shanghai mass lock downs…
Thorin is the Esports equivalent of the Chinese government. Thorin: “I like Blue”. Anyone else:”I like Red”. Thorin:”Blocked”.
Good. Arguing with idiots is just waste of time.
I want Monte to be the father of my wife's children.
This show makes me hate esports as a whole more and more. What a joke if an industry.
Your comment does not make any sense whatsoever.
@@HopefulNihilist How so? I can somehow explain it further if you’re not a native speaker or have brain damage or something.
coulda summarized the first 30 minutes in a 5 minute section.
Could've skipped sections you aren't interested in
why? the convo was great
Here’s the real callous comment. Once Upset’s pro career is over and the money slowly dries up, his camgirl wife with the terrible Twitter takes will leave him.
Remember kids, the Chinese also messed with MSI scheduling to favor their team instead of group stage's 1st seed Damwon Kia during MSI saying it was due to covid issues as if they're the only country that had to worry about Covid during the pandemic. Nothing new here.
I don't have a problem with letigress regular voice. The problem is when she tries to sound cute or dress up her voice. It sounds inauthentic and distracting. Also from other content I see her in, all the feedback she's been getting seems to be how great she is. So I don't even think she realizes her flaws.
Thats what im saying let China play on their own ping why would other region adapt to them when in the first place their at fault this is MSI is irrelevant in my book
They literally don't want to play at MSI. They'd rather just focus on Asian games and LPL Summer Split. It's RIOT'S choice to make them go to MSI.
LPL doesn't need msi, riot needs LPL because it's 80% of their viewership. Also by making all teams play on 35 ping, riot themselves is admitting that the ping difference matters, becausw their logic is, we can't make teams play on 0 ms and 35 ms vs lpl since they are playing difference games.
@@kissblade8587 where did you even get that news?
Then they have excuses if they lose. I might rather they play without them. Now i just hope t1 get the trophy anyway
@@partyondudes5789 thats not an excuses they did themselves anyways or the chinese goverment prioritizing asian games
15 dollars an hour. Thats pretty good.. to talk about a game
Didn't Doublelift's mom got killed by his own brother and still played the lcs finals the next day? He's an absolute psychopath.
It was 7 days later.
Some people are just build differently...unnironically.
I mean the way they represented the situation in this video is EXTREMELY disingenuous... DL said on his podcast the memes were funny, that's it. Then Upset's wife felt the need to finally come clean about it (not quite sure why the off-handed remark of "those memes are funny" was what finally prompted it; but that's neither here nor there) - at which point DL said "she's just butthurt" (regarding her twitter responses). He later clarified that he didn't read her twitter correctly (which you can take that as you will) when he first made the follow up comments, then said specifically that now that the reason behind the scenario is known the memes are no longer funny. You can't retroactively say "Ah yes, DL didn't know the situation but him saying funny memes means he was laughing at the abuse" .