"you're fat and it's your fault"
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- body positivity failed. Here's how
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do you think body positivity is healthy or helpful?
yeah sometimes, really depends on the context and situation
I love your video essays
It is absolutely not helpful. My mother was all for body positivity and now she’s on oxygen, has diabetes, high blood pressure, heart and kidney failure and arthritis in her knees. She can’t go anywhere without her wheelchair.
I think we should be more accepting and supportive of fat people without putting all the blame on them. But I also think that "body positivity" can often have a negative impact. I think it certainly depends though on whether or not the people are healthy, trying to become healthier, or not trying at all
It's an illusion, our bodies do have an "optimal phase" if cared for, and after that, we will naturally decay.
You can be healthy and obese?
No, because your body is not structured to deal with the weight, your bones, and muscles will suffer, and your organs and your body as a whole.
You can survive, and the word survives, underweight for a while, but in both situations, you are only speeding the decay. In our modern society, there's no healthy when you talk about food, hell, when you talk about lifestyle. You want to lie to yourself, good, we all do, but in the end, we know, is just another lie.
You think you are in control, but you are not, as we see our planet dying, how can you live and stay healthy when your surroundings are poisoning us, and our choices killing us. Pessimistic or realistic, see as you want.
Stay hydrated tho💗
Edit:The medicine you take when you are sick.
The alcohol you consume when you go party.
The extreme and unnatural exercises we do.
This all counts when you want to stay healthy, and your surroundings, pollution, stress, sleep patterns, the medicine for your anxiety or your mental health, that's why I think, is not just food, is everything, and we don't have control to what we expose ourselves to, so yeah, the healthy lifestyle is a lie. Skinny, slim, fat, normal, why care?
Honestly, just try to be happy for a moment, life is already hard without having to think about how you should look because people will judge you, no matter what. Just smile one honest smile every day. Is harder than dieting, but the satisfaction is incomparable.
Extremes are bad, period.
Too skinny is unhealthy and too fat is unhealthy. Too much sugar is bad, too much alcohol is bad, too much food is bad, too much Tiktok erases your brain cells, extremes are bad and that is it.
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nailed it.
THIS.
*Goldilocks liked this*
This.
Instead of labeling things as body positivity, neutrality, whatever, people should just learn to exercise more kindness; to themselves and others. Kindness takes you a long way.
Yes!! In a world where you can be anything, be kind. 💖
me when i read 'people just need to exercise more' 🤨😯👿 me when i continued to read 'more kindness' ☺️🥰🥳
That's the point...... I am tired of that obsession
@@TheLily97232 I so agree! The internet has been a long gone changed.
As the world w it of course) but I’m ref to the body positivity ,neutrality one day it’s cool to run & get plastic surgery…
Next,it’s use filter on the iPhone) copying fashion of the most popular INSTA models,or thrifting……wtf?
I simply say BE THE BEST VERSION OF YOURSELF ACCEPT YOURSELF.
STRENGTHS WEAKNESS AND BIGGEST ONE IM STILL STRUGGLING With PERFECTIONISM!
I try and live simply no cell phone.
Quietly
Except for my Dancing) ❤ciao !
@@persephone213 how lovely ! Nobody ever says that enough anymore do they? ❤😊 have a awesome day!,😊😊😊
Tiktok is just so toxic, hate that everyone there is constantly comparing to others, and tbh, a few years ago that destroyed me too-
so true tho
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Tiktok is pure poison that rottens your brain. I’ve been so in peace ever since I deleted it 1 year ago
@@marimar5279 same hoenstly. I liked vlog content so I may download Instagram for that maybe but I'm not sure if it's worth it
The damage that tik tok has done to this world needs to be explored in more detail
Agreed
stupid comment. Instagram and TH-cam have shorts . ig models are in ig 😂😂da
Victoria secret guess what it was before tiktok
@@dua_sunshine oh come on, tiktok's extremely addictive algorithm has reached so many more people than any of the things you mentioned. the other apps are companies riding off the coattails of tiktok's success.
It very much is and has been explored in detail lol
Hundreds of video essays/docs with millions of views abt out. Dozens of research papers about it. Interviews with psychologists or legislators.
Trust me it's been explored
@@dua_sunshine I'm sure instagram has also melted peoples brains. Social media was a mistake, it's pretty clear we aren't capable of handling it and it only breeds mental illness.
As I once read "junk food is so normalised that eating a vegetable is now restriction"
That’s silly
That's just...the US
I went out with friends on a fast food restaurant and i ordered Caesar salad. Let me remind you that beside the chicken , lettuce, corn (probably all processed), such a salad has very caloric dressing, croutons, shredded cheese etc. It can be considered healthier but not necessarily being too low calorie. So my best friend asks me : why are you ordering salad ? Are you dieting?
(I was dieting at the moment)
It shocked me how , even tho i was eating fast food salad ,with all the things i listed previously, they thought that i was dieting , just because i didn't choose to eat a double cheeseburger for example.
I know! I suddenly have an eating disorder because lunch was a giant slice of sour dough, 1 cup cottage cheese and a nectarine instead of McDonald's Value Meal? I'm addicted to broccoli, cabbage and kale, not doughnuts, Oreos and Pringles, so I suddenly have ARFID? Like...WUT?!😢
Crazy junk food should be banned full stop I think if people want to eat it they should only be allowed to make it themselves 😂
People don’t understand that Body positivity isn’t being extremely obese and eating a copious amount of junk food just to call it “ self love”.Eating junk food is fine but if you can hardly breathe after standing up or saying a simple word..it says a lot. Body positivity is taking care of yourself,understanding that’s it’s ok to have a little bit more meat on your bones,and that it’s ok if your waist isn’t the size of a toothpick. That’s my understanding of it.
THIS. this is what i always thought it was. no one should be encouraging being obese and unhealthy, just accepting and being POSITIVE about people’s bodies because not everyone can have a bella hadid/bombshell body. some people naturally are bigger and have a healthy lifestyle. especially aging and how your body changed as you get old.
Body positivity isn't just about having some healthy fat and not minding it, but it's also about loving yourself even if you're obese while working to be healthier because instead of hating ourselves for letting ourselves down we should be happy we're making a change. The problem is some people told themselves it meant that you don't need to change to be healthier because they're scared they won't be able to do it.
Honestly I think that body positivity is being the healthiest version of yourself without comparing your physical body to others and accepting the fact that something’s are beyond your physical limits. Eg (bigger butt, boobs, smaller waist, thigh gaps ect.)
An it is also being in peace with your physical insecurities. It’s about loving yourself at your worst while working to be the better version of yourself. Fighting against toxic beauty standards and bullying.
loving yourself but also staying between 18-25 bmi.
It blows my mind that people don't think that they can accept themselves and improve at the same time.
blows my mind that people still think losing weight = improvement. lmao
@@modkip25if you’re obese it definitely is improvement
@modkip25 health at any size is a lie. We can love and accept fat people for who they are and think they are beautiful all we want but at the end of the day fat people are more likely to meet an early demise due to health complications relates to their size. It is sad, and unfair but it is true. Fat people are good people but they won't have the capacity to be good people if they are six feet under.
@@anjalik1136 most people who want to lose weight aren't obese.
@@modkip25 It is if its your goal and you are overweight in a unhealthy amount
This is the nuanced conversation we all need to hear and be a part of.
Is this nuanced though? There are some salient points here but there is definitely a bias and an ulterior motive here-did you check her links to her workouts or her exercise clothes or the protein snacks all conveniently within the description box? It seems like an argument being made clearly in favor in one side, with historical, scientific and throwaway “but everyone is beautiful” comments to shield her from criticism.
Truth is, people don’t want to accept that they do have control over how their body looks, because it’s easier to pretend that it all just happens to them.
To a point. A very little one. Education, financial means, country you live in, culture you grew up in, type of job or lack of job, mental health, housing situation, trauma, support network, cost of health care, means of transport available to you, urban planning of the city/country you live in, and probably others play a massive role in how easy or difficult it is to change your body composition.
I gained a lot within one month. I had to buy one size bigger jeans to go to work. 😂I was like, okay, nothing changed in my life it's not good. Went to the doctor, and had ultrasounds and blood tests. Turned out my thyroid acted out it's a heritage from my mom’s mom 😅 The doctor put me on medication and extra vitamins. Also, we discussed how I can lose weight within 2-3 months with workout and calorie deficit 💪🏼 I am almost the same size after 1 month. I just have to listen to my doctor 🫡 More people should listen to them 🙈
@@miyounova true
@han nah one not everyone second people who make comment on people weight on the cover that "its for they health " are just fat phobic because all the scientific litterature tell people to stop doing that because it's just have negative impact and trigger ED.
lol you definitely have no idea about what hormonal imbalance looks like then. i'm so tired of people having 0 knowledge about health, psychology and how the body works saying whatever they want. there's also eating disorders, physical or mental traumas, and several others reasons/ illness that can make you too skinny or too fat. you don't know neither anything about the set point weight and how unconscious mental process establish how much you're supposed to weight. please educate yourself outside of TV or "regular" doctors that have no clue about nutrition or how the metabolism really works.
I absolutely agree. I honestly feel quite attacked when people consider me eating a salad is me restricting myself. Sometimes I just want a glorious salad other days I want a burger and both those choices are fine as long as their balanced.
Agree. I’m naturally slim. Many people don’t believe me that I genuinely dislike cakes and ice creams. My mom is that way too. Some people are just genetically wired that way.
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@@PassionPno most cakes and icecream are very sweet
my dad thinks eating a burger or sum will kill u. nd that it'll stay in your system and cause bacteria 💀
I'm naturally skinny but when I workout every single day and eat healthy most of the time (homemade foods, sometimes salads,no sugar),people assume that I want to lose weight when my main goal is to gain muscle to stay in shape
As someone who is overweight. I think some people take body positivity too serious. We should always strive for self improvement. Our health should always be a priority over our looks.
🙌 This is respectable ❤️
People are afraid of even the word "fat" 😢 because of the created culture of fat haters
Everything is simple here, go to the doctor and consult about your weight and body condition, instead of listening to toxic tiktoks
thank u
The Doctors often hyperfocus on weight and ignore unrelated health issues though
I guarantee we’re not “afraid” of the word fat lol. I don’t get a panic attack seeing an overweight person. Overweight people need to stop projecting their own insecurities into other people & claiming the rest of the world has the problem because they themselves can’t admit that they’re the ones with the problem. The aggressiveness & delusion is off putting.
and maybe don't use weight alone as a defining factor for someone
@@DeathnoteBB Problem is being overweight very often is a cause for a lot of health problems that seem unrelated. Also being overweight leads to more problems the older you get. No "If" someone gets complications but "when" and the earlier it´s fought the better.
Social media is just so toxic with many unrealistic expectations for your body and weight
fat people are just so toxic
I love this, "self-control is not evil" made me tear up.
I buy my groceries at Walmart and I walk every day. Taking care of yourself isn't expensive.
Same. I would use TH-cam videos to workout. Bought weights at the thrift store. Now Planet Fitness is very cheap too.
Same! And working out at home with youtube has been great
@@littlemeowmeow9947🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️I swear I am idiot sometimes. I thought about buying weights from Facebook and eBay but not from the thrift store. Thanks for the indirect help!
It can be though, it can kind of depend on your location. Lots of places in the U.S are food deserts and a lot of the time unhealthy food is cheaper than healthier stuff in restaurants and stores because they can typically store the unhealthy food for longer without it going bad (I'm sure there are other underlying reasons for unhealthy food generally being cheaper but I bet you get the point)
But I also see some of what you're saying. Exercise certainly isn't expensive. But good exercise means nothing with a poor diet that you can hardly help
This is exactly why i quit TikTok. I've always been naturally quite slim and others have told me that but i compared myself to others to the point that i viewed myself as 'fat'. I have felt so much better since i deleted it and don't think ill return
I left tik tok 2 years ago. Its actually a waste of time, i became more productive after uninstalling it and i do not envy ever going there again🙂
And also personally, i really like RM😂😂😂. Cool personality, when i grow up, i wanna be him🙂
just had a conversation with my dad about my body.. i gained like 5kg (im 63kg on 1,60m now) because im weightlifting and i want to be big and strong and he deadass told me that it doesnt look pretty anymore, that i look puffed up and that other girls in the gym work out too and "dont look like that". and not only because i do this so i feel comfortable but the way he said it made me tear up because i felt he was pushing his beautystandard on me while being so ignorant about me feelings/ goals etc.
That’s lame of him. Every woman (who’s able to) should strength train because of how good it is for you. And you are beautiful AND strong. My bf loves my strength training build. When I asked him more, he said he loves fit “jacked” looking girls. Keep doing what you’re doing!!❤
He is and he's wrong for that. He shouldn't be talking about how beautiful his daughter is to other girls especially because you are doing something to be fit and healthy. Keep doing what you're doing and don't listen to harmful people like that
I know your beautiful!! your dad should have never said that and good for you to keep going, reach your goals!!! Do not let this stop you!! ❤❤🩹❣
Never care about others opinions. Be happy for u. And weird for your dad to talk like that about a young woman body
Please don’t give your dad any power over your self esteem! His little opinion is irrelevant to your strength and YOUR opinion on yourself and what you want in life!! Being strong and building muscle as women is amazing and useful! I wish I were able to build muscle as fast as when I was younger.
I think we need to stop commenting on people’s bodies unless asked.
Mmm idk, when my friends ask if I should be eating or drinking something that affects me because of my condition I appreciate it. I know it of course, but it’s nice that before I indulge someone asks me so I reevaluate that decision. It also shows care from my friends part.
I’ve also thought of doing the same by asking some questions on their conditions (because they look worse or like they’re getting to a serious condition) but I’m scared to drive them away, maybe they think I’m fat phobic or that I want to restrict everything from them. It’s sad
i feel like if you see one of your friends eating a large amount of food or gaining/losing a lot of weight you should say something. in a polite way check in on them.
YES!!! And when asked we should always be KIND
@@lolololololollol4793 true. but if you point out unnecessary things like acne or something it's just really immature
If people only knew how unhealthy it is to compare oneself to others then they would have refrained from it, it’s always good to stand out and be unique in your own way. Nothing wrong with being different. 🥰🥰🥰♥️
What people really admire is when you're comfortable with yourself. when you own whatever difference or feature that stands out people love that sh.
Grewing up that was my way to deal with haters or testers lol who would ask why you have x and y and I'd be like yeah so what I love it and then they'd agree lol. A flat ass for instance can be super hot if you own it rock that flat ass and everybody will admire it too. Hehe.
@@rses916 Everything can be good if you are good with it, the others can or cannot agree with that but the way you feel it and see it changes how you portray it and take care/make use of it
i wish they'd learn to compare themselves to character traits instead of physical appearance (what i was taught as a child. nobody will ever have the unrealistically perfect traits of a fictional character- that is exactly why it's fiction. you can however be a kind compassionate book worm like belle, or a compassionate but headstrong fighter like mulan. it's what's inside that matters, not the packaging, this is also why labels suck. dont judge books by their cover, actually take the time to get to know others, and yourself before you lay out judgements.)
Another thing to remember good health is not a prerequisite for being treated with dignity and respect.
Love the way you phrased this!
In a way it is. Someone who doesn't respect their body won't be respected like someone who does.
@@willofd1540 we will never know from appearances alone if someone is healthy.
I'd like to err on the side of compassion.
@@SharonStoppable If someone's full ribs are showing then, they are obviously unhealthy. If someone has double chin, excess flabs on tricep / arm area and fatty calves then, they are unhealthy. Exception would be Powerlifter but you can know which of them are by LOOKING at them mostly.
Physically healthy can be seen. If we are talking about mental, mobility / flexibility and internal organs then, it will be on discussion.
22% B.F. for Females and 18% is alright for men. Females giving birth to the baby and nourishment ought to have them at higher fat percentage.
Respect is earned, not given
It's not
"I hate how I look. I'm ugly, everyone thinks I am. I have to lose weight."
It's
"I should feel confident about being in my own skin so I can change myself for the better. I'm doing it because I love myself, I want to be healthy"
I'm trying to feel confident about myself .
Well said 💗
What you say is superficial
I 100 hundred percent agree, we should always respect our selfs and emproove no matter what
losing weight doesn't mean good health, neither does having fat mean you're unhealthy, that is what people don't want to understand.
@@modkip25 Good point!
body neutrality should be all about focusing more on the fact that you have a body and exercising to keep it healthy, because its the only body you've got. and not letting stupid Beauty standards get in the way of your mental health and physical well being
"My body is the least interesting thing about me" is what I keep telling myself and I think it's keeping me in a healthier mindset. I have ED history and I still do have bouts of restrictive eating which i'm working on. I think body neutrality is a lot more helpful to me because the more I focus on my body whether in a good or a bad way, the more opportunities I give my own mind to obsess over it and pick it apart. Everyone is different though, the main point is to look after yourself and keep everything in moderation. We only get one body!
In a moderate defense of the women on water tok, a lot of them have had bariatric surgery. Which is a weight loss surgery that drastically reduces the size of the stomach. For the next few weeks and months after the operation, you are restricted to an all liquid diet as your stomach adjusts. Especially since it can't hold almost any solid food. You have to consume around 50 oz of water a day, maybe more. So, in accordance with medical advice, you can add sweeteners and flavoring to the water in case you don't like plain water. Though it is true that some people are using it as like a diet "hack," and that's very unfortunate
I lost 18kilos. My period stopped. My gynecologist says it is very dangerous for me to stay in this weight. But every b**tard around me congratulates me, trying to reassure me that I must have become healthier, because fat is unhealthy. Well, I was not even overweight. 😂 It just makes me mad when I say smth like "I should gain 2-4 kilos" and hear: "Guuurl WhyYYy Don't DO tHaat! fAt Is SsoOOOo UnheALthYyy!" - everybody just think that losing weight is always good and always means self-improvement...
It is very hard to stop restricting, while it is seen as ultimate good by the people around you.
My poor baby sister is underweight and I'm encouraging her to gain maybe 10-15 lbs just to get her to the lowest healthy requirement of the BMI
I FEEL THAT Queen💁♀️
I girlbossed too close to the sun and now I can’t maintain a healthy weight without eating ALL THE FOOD😔
Also people always assume that all the kilos you haveonly arethrough fat? Like bro, gaining weight could also mean gianing muacle. Weight gain aint always bad just like weight loss aint always good.
For example, in currently loosing fat and gaining muacle and my weight barely disappears due to muscle weighing more than fat
there is losing weight the healthy way and there is doing it the wrong way (crash dieting , highly restrictive eating). IF you are already in the healthy range in weight, there is no reason to lose weight. Now, if you are obese, then yes , you most likely should lose weight. If you are losing weight, it needs to be done the healthy way ( proper diet and exercise) and you should not go overboard (becoming underweight). also, healthy weight loss takes time and should be gradual, if you are losing weight too fast, you are not doing it right
@@supererikman5331 mom constantly brags to me she lost 8 kg in 1 month and puts me on no-carb and low-cal diets. But i still somehow often have binge attacks (I have binge eating sisorder) because i just feel ao fucking hungry all the time. Any tips what to do, because my mom keeps calling me fat and makes me feel bad, and i stress-eat and then get fatter.
Me battling obesity: "I love myself so much, I want to see my body healthier and have a better relationship with food."
After getting to a healthy BMI: "I never feel bad about eating food anymore. I love being active and want to see what my body can do."
We needed someone to call out this behavior on tiktok and I’m glad it was you. I was tired of fighting for my life in tiktok comments about this topic
people on social media just need to stop talking about bodies in general. it’s super toxic and creates insecurities that some people didn’t even have before a person pointed them out
Self-Love and Self-care isn't the same as Self-indulgent
If you have something you hate about yourself and have the ability to change it then change it. If you have something that you hate about yourself and can not change it then accept it.
Simple. I don’t understand how people find that hard to understand.
It's easier said than done
@@lxrizza True, but if people loved themselves enough as they claim to do then they would do the absolute best for themselves.
@@Rose-pk6ss genuinely asking but have you ever met someone that loves themselves truly? Someone that never nags about anything on their body or their personality ? Those people don't exist except for the ones that suffer from narcissism
@@lxrizza Hate to break it to you, but there are plenty of people out there content with themselves (you wouldn’t find them on social media).
@@lxrizzaI love myself nowadays, I honestly think I’m very blessed to have been born with such a functional and healthy body. However I don’t go around thinking I’m the bee’s knees and better than everyone. Loving yourself and being full of yourself are 2 different things. I still acknowledge I have areas I could improve in, both physically strength wise and personality wise in multiple ways, but I’m not gonna hate myself for not being perfect. I still strive to improve because it’ll make my quality of life better but that takes time and it’s okay to do things at my own pace, I’m still young so what’s the rush? To me, loving yourself is understanding your strengths and your weaknesses and being kind to yourself but also realistic with yourself. I think people often fall into the trap of thinking being realistic means being pessimistic and that’s why they don’t think you can love yourself without being delusional,but I believe that you can be realistic and an optimist. You’re still acknowledging reality just the difference is how you approach and deal with it.
One thing, slightly of topic, is that I always found it weird that people who are too big to ride certain horses, say they are fat shamed when not being allowed to do so. As someone that owns horses, that seems to be a difficult discussion. Even though it is clearly about the safety and protection of the horse, somehow these topic are not supposed to be talked about. I would not say someone is fat or ugly when they are too heavy for my horse, my horse is just not strong enough (max 20% of his weight rule). Somehow people tend to think that people who set these boundaries are at fault.
It's like weight is not allowed to be a factor, whether it is health or in this case the health of a horse.
But I know I'm not truly on topic, it just was a thought I got while watching this video.
Horse riding websites I've seen have a weight limit and it's completely understandable. I'm slightly over the limit and I'm not upset at all. They are respecting and looking out for their animals and nobody wants any injuries. Being a big person doesn't mean you should be bullied but it is going to have physical limitations just like being too tall or short does.
@@lkf8799 Well said!!!
It’s nice to see that people care about the horse‘s health
Not everyone cares about being healthy. Some people will choose not to be and that's something they should discuss with their doctors if they want to. People don't owe us health and they don't lose value for not being healthy. We should just all be more kind and have more compassion. Towards others and towards ourselves.
Only valid opinion in this whole comment section
I feel like purposefully deciding to be unhealthy shouldn't be glorified.
I'm not reslonsing to or referring to anything but your comment specifically, here. But I think it's weird to say that people can't dislike the choice to be unhealthy.
It's the exact same thing as addiction. You can still respect the person. But you do not have to support their choices. And if you strongly disagree with them, that is your right.
@Been Classified If you dislike that choice, then don't choose it for your life. It's pretty simple 🤷♀️
If someone is purposefully unhealthy that says something about their character. And it’s a lifestyle not many people would want to be around. If my friend or family is doing something that is bad for them I’m gonna say something. It’s nice to say nobody should ever be judgmental but we are always judging ourselves and others. Impossible not to.
@Ray03595 Indeed, we are always judging each other. However, our judgments are just that. Judgments. We don't need to vocalise them all the time. Also, most people know what's healthy and what's not, so there's no point in saying anything.
I love how whenever she talks about controversial topics I'm never mad or frustrated ~♡
I truly believe you can love your body where it's at rn and still wanna improve yourself. Self love is wanting to improve yourself. IMO
This makes me so glad I don’t have TikTok I get all social media is toxic but it’s one of the more well known now for stupid trends that are either deadly stupid illegal or something basic
Too much self esteem is just as dangerous as too much self loathing, theres a balance in every thing
Exactly! We gotta look for the perfect self-love:self-loath ratio
i think that my issue with the topic is that fatphobia is so often disguised as caring for somebody's health. it's completely hypocritical!! i am sombody who is midsized but always thought of myself as fat because i was slighly larger than the people around me- that is just how my body is built. ive heard countless times that i should try losing weight, mostly from family, but guess what? i am healthy! everything is fine at checkups, i naturally eat less/have a smaller appetite than my skinnier friends, and i stay active relatively regularly. for all intents and purposes, i live a healthier lifestyle than many people i know. could i be even healthier? sure! but it's not anybody's business to judge my health based on what my body looks like. i would love it if people would stop pretending they gave a crap about people's health, because it truly isn't about that.
There are people who actually are just concerned about health.
I'm happy for you that you are healthy rn and I have no clue what you mean by midsized, but since a lot of TikTokers claim obese weights to be midsized, I'll go with that definition. Obesity goes with an increased risk for just about any illness, for example heart disease.
Idk whether that applies to you, but it's simply wrong to claim that obesity is healthy and people are allowed to voice concerns.
@nadiacreative9165 according to a quick google search, midsized is usually between size 8-14 (nowhere near obese). also, i think you misunderstood me. i never said that obesity is healthy, just that a lot of times people will shame bodies under the guise of "caring" about health. regardless of anybody's stance on obesity, it's never someone's place to comment on another person's body.
@@sarahf9655 I absolutely agree with you on almost all of your points, there are however people in the health at every size community who don't call size 14-18 midsized, but skinny or straight sized, hence my statement. The critics in my previous comment were not directed specifically towards you, but towards the fat acceptance community, I was mostly trying to add to your points.
I apologize for any misunderstandings
Fat phobia isn't real sis. Wake up
Everyone is healthy until they aren’t. By staying obese you are taking years, potentially decades not just off your life but your life at a good standard of health. If someone starts smoking a pack a day for a couple of years but gets their lungs checked, bloods done and ‘everything is fine’, does that mean they should just keep smoking a pack a day? No. Of course not. No one would suggest that.
The watertok trend was covered brilliantly by Tiffany Ferguson. Apparently a lot of the people into the trend have had bariatric surgery, which evidently can make plain water intolerable. It's not a snake oil for weight loss, but a niche product tailored to those who have already undergone the procedure.
How can it make it intolerable? I’ve never heard that, I’m interested to know how it works!
i am probably a little older than a lot of your audience, so i just want to put out some old lady wisdom - once you are in your 30’s there is a good chance you are going to start feeling so much more confident about your body. i used to be so self conscious about my appearance and so worried about getting older, but it’s been my experience that as women get older we really stop caring as much and just live our lives and appreciate looks more. if you feel like shit about yourself now, just focus on taking care of your health and know that it gets way better with age. certain things just don’t matter as much any more and it’s liberating ❤️
I have quite a severe eating disorder and this video helped me understand what I am doing to my body so thank so much
didn't watertok originate from someone who had to drink a lot of water after surgery and was struggling with it and then started mixing different flavours of water to help hit the amount of water she needed to drink after the surgery (+people who can't have solid food after a surgery/struggle to drink plain water due to sensory issues). I understand your approach about it being a way to undereat, etc but I don't think that is always the case
I love how you made a video on this, it needed to be said
Zoe, I'd love to thank you so much for helping me. I've been watching your videos for a while now, and you changed how I perceive myself so much. I've been struggling with anorexia / acne / weight gain+loss / depression since I was 10, and since I found your TH-cam channel, I've felt so much better about myself. You gave me so much motivation and self-confidence with how open and thoughtful you are. Seeing that you can get through things made me feel like I could, too. I'm 16 now, been watching your videos for a year, and I am the best I've ever been because of you. Really, thank you.
THIS VIDEO IS SO ON POINT! A friend calls me a pick me girl because I do workout and watch my nutrition intake. I wanted to defend but don't know how😭Next time I'm going to slap this video on her face.
tell her to learn what pick me actually means first ✌️✌️✌️
“Pick me” has been so overused that it’s lost all meaning. How TF does you working out mean you’ve got internalised misogyny?
Well. If she‘s u healthy then propose to work out and eat healthy with her. I‘m sure that it will be helpful.
Your friend is ridiculous.
@@Kate-n2310 I assume its being used in a sense of, working out is only to keep your body at a size that is appealing to the male gaze. But it’s a reach for sure😂
too much anything and everything is bad
Thank you for talking about ARFID! been a struggle all my life, but no one knows about it
Stay strong! You are not alone
I loved that you gave a nuanced and non-judgmental take on this.
Your videos make me feel better about myself ❤love you zoe
Like yes you can't really control having wide/narrow hips and things like that, but general health and weight (to a certain extent) is in your control
"Why are we still scared to be fat?"
Because, despite the science denialism we see nowadays, fat is unhealthy.
Full stop.
Irrespective of healthy lifestyle being fat is still unhealthy. We know this. The science shows us this to such a degree we even know definitively that just eating healthy foods and being active is not enough to erase the health detriments of obesity. Does it make someone healthier than someone who's fat and doesn't do those things? Yes. But does it make them as healthy as a thin person who does the same? Not even close.
I do think we need to divorce health and beauty standards and self worth. These things should be kept conceptually separate, but that doesn't mean lying to ourselves and others to try and force that divorce. People should still feel worthy and beautiful even if they are not healthy because of their bodysize. But there are people who do wish for health, and lying to them is cruelty. By doing this, we remove any agency they would have had in pursuing their goals. As a crass cartoon robot once said "I can tell you anything you want" it doesn't make it true.
I hope everyone in the this comment section is comfortable with their own body while they can also recognise where they can improve. May we all be able to forgive and forget about the mean comments people have told us about our bodies. Love yourselves.♥
You are my daily dose of detox. Thank you💕
Congratulations on a million subs Zoe! So proud of you!🥳
Always love watching your videos. You always talk on hard topics!
So glad I dont have tiktok never will. Twitter and tiktok sound like hell.
It all depends on how you curate your algorithm (although twitter is a mess right now so you cant do that). Most of the drama on tik tok escapes me because I curated it to show me cute animal videos instead. All social media can be horrible because humans are the one controlling them. Your personal experience on these apps depends on what you choose to engage with.
The fat side of body positivity means only them 😭 bc the second a girly loses weight all hell breaks loose. Or they have no shame being hateful towards thin girls. All they have to do is love themselves, be kind to others, & take care of your health (being extremely thin or extremely overweight is unhealthy)
I've been on some heavy anti-depressants for more than ten years now and up until like 2021 (when I finally reached my perfect dose) I kept on gaining weight. I am fat now and I have been for many years but I've also been more active and sportive in the last year than I have ever been before. Have I lost any weight? Hell nah. But does my body feel healthier than when I was 135 pounds? Hell yeah. There's sports' poses I can't physically do because of my big belly but it's just not something I can change unless I stop taking my meds. But I've always thought: I'd rather be fat than dead. So, I'll keep on taking my meds, being fat and still being more active than I was since my childhood.
This is exactly what health is!!
have you tried changing meds? ive been on zoloft for almost 7 years and never had an issue.
Watertok emerged from bariatric patients due to the volume of water needed to consume in a day, and issues with some patients have with how flavors are perceived post surgery. While related to the general discussion on weight, it would have been nice if that had been mentioned because bariatric patients aren’t drinking all that water to replace meals. It’s an important piece of context.
I am so glad I deleted TikTok in late 2019 (I was 13 at the time) and missed all the “fun stuff”. I probably saved my mental health and body image
It all comes down t balance, which is delicate to maintain
zoe uploaded everyone get the popcorn, it’s gonna be a good 20 mins ! 💓💓
This video made me think about eating disorders and how they are always associated with losing weight and trying to look skinnier. Now I wonder if there are ones that are focused on gaining weight? Or is it called binge eating? Well, that's a new topic to research, I guess...
I think some with an over eating disorder should definitely speak on this! Maybe the more its talked about the more people understand that both ends are bad and nothing is 100% good or evil
I dont know about that. But something I have noticed is that fat people are considered to eat a lot more than other person when that isnt true most of the times. They are most likely fat for staying still and not moving enough. And there is also a debate about if there is posible to be fat because of genetycs, I wont say it works "father and his family fat = fat kid" but I would say it affects genetycs to some point
Binge eating disorder would make you gain weight. Certain types of AFRID would make you gain weight (most think of eating overly healthy but it could also be eating only junk; like man who only eats fries) Not really in the DSM (might qualify for EDNOS) but there are gym bros who focus on getting gains to the point that its an eating disorder.
Honestly everyone has a social media addiction we all know how hurtful it is but we still use it in the daily
Obesity can increase your health risks by 33% That means 67% of overweight people won't be additionally affected and will live to old age just fine.
I know skinny people that eat fast food everyday and drink excessive alcohol and play video games all weekend and overweight people that go biking and play soccer every week and love salads for lunch. Health isn't always reflected by your pants size.
People don't need to be bullied for not being a size 6.
There are so many factors: genetics, income, mental health, diseases, addiction, hormones, pregnancy, stress, disability, time, education, allergies, injury, upbringing, habits, medications, etc. that contribute to temporary and permanent weight gain.
Food is an easy and affordable comfort, especially in these times.
I can't hop on a plane to Hawaii or cure my mom's addiction but I can make a grilled cheese on garlic toast and have a mango popsicle for lunch.
denial only makes the emotion stronger is such a good line in general tho
Please Zoe keep uploading such videos. 😭 They motivate me so damn much 😭❤️
I've been working my ass off to lose 100+ lbs that I gained during a few years of depression... I hate when I can't celebrate being smaller. Being told it's not your life purpose to be small... its not, bit I am healthier and that feels amazing. Also, it's the first time in YEARS that I don't have to have anxiety about fitting in rides or sitting comfortably in a plane. I will continue to celebrate shedding off so many lbs.
Screw the haters! Do you! And I'm glad that you took charge of your health!❤🎉 Celebrate your victories!
fr! when it comes to celebrating stuff such as working on ur appearance people always wanna say "appearance isn't everything" when they know nobody ever said that, that's what THEY think. people just wanna celebrate how far they've come to make progress and reach their goals. hell it doesn't even have to be about ur appearance it can be anything else. people always wanna act like we think we're all that when we celebrate something about ourselves.
but congratulations! u go and continue to celebrate your health and weight. ignore the haters 💖💗
If you are healthier.. than its ok!
you brought this out beautifully!! i'm a little on the big side and yes I've tried to lose wight and my main thing is to take care of your self and the wight is just a bi-product. what i don't like is how people that don't want to, lets say wear a bikini and are looked at as embarrassed and not confident. i love my body, but i always wear skirts and tees even at the beach and i often feel less confident because of my clothes. its just when people say that body positive is wearing crop-tops when you have a belly (i'm still working on my relationship with God and to feel confident in the clothes i wear)
i feel like there is absolutely no need to go into extremes in any direction. ofc depends also on ur metabolism etc to adjust ur needs
thank you for this!! i needed to hear some of it. i’m currently recovering from a restrictive ed, and have yet to find a balance between eating enough but not feeling like crap lol. currently trying to focus on nutrients and what makes me feel good! just bc i’m not restricting, doesn’t mean i can’t stay healthy and active.
Loving the corset
I hate the identity politics over food. I just want to eat -.-
And that’s fine you should eat what you want. At the end the day these peoples opinions don’t mean shit
Tysm zoe for helping me, 🥺🥺❤
there is an entire middle ground, and that’s what’s healthy. not being overly restrictive and not gorging, either.
I've never been this early but I just want to say that I appreciate your videos! You always share such interesting conversations and perspectives without being offensive 💕
Being content means being grounded in the present. I actually think we severely underestimate the level of skill and discipline required in this practice, even though it can often take decades to master. We want the feeling of being content that comes with the training of a monk, without any of the training and wonder why were left unsatisfied
I've been off of ig for a year and never had tiktok in the first place... Just seeing the ones Zoe edited in made me feel bad abt myself a little bit which hasn't really happened a lot during this time. Maybe I should not go back.
Wow I didn’t know I needed to hear this, thank you !
Body positivity for me was dealing with all the scars on my body from previous mental health issues and also my scar and body shape from my back surgery. The people that took it and made it about fat people… pls.
You can be fat and beautiful but don’t shit on smaller people for not being insecure.
If you’re gonna post pictures of your fat body good for you, but stop calling it healthy when it’s not.
Visceral fat can kill you
A few things I need to say as a plus size person. First, as far as the fat people making unhealthy choices are concerned, it's obvious it isn't healthy. We know it, they know it. Though I do understand the reasoning behind what they are doing, whether or not it is actually effective. Thin people make unhealthy choices all the time and they are seen as down to earth and relatable, But the second a fat person eats something unhealthy, all hell breaks loose and suddenly everyone has an opinion on what they should be eating. Those people are essentially protesting the double standard. If people are either going to criticize unhealthy eating or just let people be, the same energy should be held no matter what your size. And for those of you who want to make a health argument anyway, people of any size can have damaging bodily effects from unhealthy living, and let's be honest. Chances are that you don't know the people you are judging or how healthy they actually are or aren't because you are not their doctor.
Second, we definitely all need to learn what a healthy amount of food looks like. I'm not saying all those influencers are actually undereating, but some of them are, and them marketing it as healthy can be damaging to their followers. And to be fair, we can learn what overeating is, though honestly with the scrutiny we face as fat people, the general public probably already have a good idea of what that looks like.
Third, for a lot of us, we have trauma due to diet culture, and it can be hard to heal from that if we don't have the right support. And due to our experiences, diet culture and healthy living feel very connected. As such, it can be hard to commit to being a bit healthier without falling into toxic eating patterns. For example, I am on a diet right now and due to this diet, I need to count my carbs and sugar, which is triggering to me since I was made to count calories and fat at a young age, and I worry that when I'm done with the diet, I'll find it difficult to transition back to a healthy and regular amount of carbs. And I'm walking a tightrope with learning to be healthy and one wrong move could send me into a cesspool of self-hatred.
And finally, and I know this might get me some hate, I don't want to say that you don't have a voice in this discussion as someone who struggles with body image, but you are straight size and as far as I know, you have always been straight size, so coming from you, your criticism can come off as judgment from someone who doesn't actually know what it's like. As such, this discussion should be led by the people who actually deal with fat prejudice, especially the people who make healthy choices without the intention to lose weight. And I hope that with this discussion, you're willing to listen to our experiences and viewpoints.
as someone who experienced ED in a tweenage i 100% agree with you. i don't get it when people fighting with a "promoting obesity/body positivity" when it's all just accepting of fat people's existence?
and also you all are not doctors to tell someone to loose weight bc you're worried for their health. it's not working like that
Recently I’ve started to love my body. It’s not perfect, never could be, and I strive to be a healthier, stronger version of myself, for my mental and physical health 😊
Congratulations on 1 million subscribers!! 🥳🥳
Your outfit is beautiful! Dang!
If you are fat, you will increase your chances of getting issues within your body. If you are a girl, chances are that, you will be facing menstrual problems more. If you are too thin, you have your own set of problems. The best is always the normal. Accept that you are fat/skinny first. I see so many comments say, you are not fat/skinny, you're perfect. No. If you are fat, you are fat. Same with skinny. Nothing is perfect anyway. And we need to become better versions of ourselves. But in that process, there will be many obstacles but we still need to keep moving on. Keep trying and keep loving yourself. Being fat is unhealthy so try to change that if you can. Even with skinny. Now don't confuse fat with thick. They are different. If you put on weight by not leading a good lifestyle, that is eating junk very often or not taking care of your body, that is what i mean by fat. Thick is different.
I don't understand why people can't understand that. Accept how you are and try to change. When I say that, I do not mean for you to accept yourself and be like that forever. Only when you accept your mistakes you can rectify them. Similarly, only when you accept how you body is, you can change for the better. Perfect is out of the box. Because it is subjective. As long as you are happy and people who truly want the best for you are happy, nothing matters because we all die sometime and nobody will ever remember how you didn't care about their opinions. Just try to live a healthy life and happy life.
Now, even genes play a role. I might eat healthy, be healthy and exercise well. But I might get a disease/ a big issue let's say cancer/ kidney failure. And the other person might be having just the opposite life of mine, like eating junk very often, not at all exercising, and not living a healthy lifestyle but have not diseases at all. This is where people are wrong. Because everyone is different. So let's say I have cancer/ kidney failure and I was living the ideal lifestyle. Now here's the deal. If i didn't lead that lifestyle, I might have increased my chances to die sooner or have even serious issues. But because i lead a helathy lifestyle, i didn't die or prevented the situation to get worse. Every person is different. Because i was healthy, I was alive a little longer. If I weren't and was leading the life of the second person i described, i might have dies earlier. Got the difference?
And always try to become the better version of yourself. And in that process, enjoy the changes and try to make it as fun as possible. It could be about appearance/ personality/ mental health/ education/ life in general and all.
Ah Zoe, looks like my thoughts align with your conclusions. Feels great!
youre so close to 1 mil subs! good luck. I hope you get there soon!
Why every time when it comes to body positivity we talk solely about weight issue? What about other things like acne, thin hair or just facial features that don't meet the beauty standarts at all and are considered "unattractive". I'm not overweight but have so many bad thoughts about me face... All these plus size models do meet ALL THE FUCKING STANDARD exept weight
Watertock is popular with people that have gone through gastric bypass. Youre usually quite good about research but I feel you missed the ball with this one
It should be applicable to people who have had the surgery. Not the masses which is what has happened. That’s the issue that I think she hits because the folks that have had the surgery aren’t who she is critiquing
congrats for 1 million subscribers
Thank you for uploading! Seriously I got so happy when I saw the notice ^*-*^
This might just be me but sometimes I think that the sarcasm is sometimes too extreme and gets triggering. I know I don’t have to watch you videos but I really enjoy getting to know your point of view and these topics.
I will never understand why people simply refuse to accept some things. Is fat beautiful? Yes, absolutely. Is it healthy? No, end of.
Being fat isn't beautiful, being fat and trying to be healthy is
i mean, beauty is subjective though
Nah, fat is not beautiful!
@@snowbird7254 yes it is, personally i don't believe the amount of rolls or fat a person has makes them less beautiful than a slim person, but what i do find extremely dangerous is that in their quest for acceptance the people in the body positive movement preach that fat is healthy when that is not the case for most of fat or obese people.
@Wissal Chaanane that biology textbook will also tell you excess amounts of fat is unhealthy due to various physiological and physical reasons. Doesn't mean that fat can't be beautiful or that fat people deserve to be shamed though
Can we quit with the "self love" shit and start pushing the far more important "self respect" concept? Love don't mean shit without any respect.
to my fav TH-camr congrats on hitting 1 million subscribers :) I'm happy more than you do
honestly quiting tiktok was the best thing i ever did
I thinks it's good to have different bodies on media. I was a fat kid, not obese but fat. I always grew up feeling I never feel "normal" because i only saw thin women on media. I felt i don't deserve to be happy or confident until i become thin. And i did i became very thin for some yrs with restricted eating. It didn't make me as happy and confident as i expected... I was still me in a thinner body. The first non thin main character i saw on screen, i was amazed that this girl, being bigger than me has confidence, love, happiness and a thriving life. It's good to have different types of bodies in screen. I don't mean obese bodies but just bodies that are healthy but not like super thin... The middle ground that most of us are in.
There’s few inaccuracies with this, the first being that the reason why fat acceptance was pushed in the first place. There were men who were bullied because of their love of big women so that is why that original organization was created.
Also, someone doesn’t have to break the bank on healthy food. You can eat in a healthy manner without overdoing it.
So many people are dying from obesity while a very small percentage are dying from restrictive eating disorders but we still keep hearing so so much about restrictive disorders.
As someone who lost 65 lbs with hypothyroidism, I can tell you that it’s a matter of tracking what you’re eating and being HONEST with yourself. Sadly, a lot of people are buying into things about diet and exercise that just aren’t true.
my self love is so much better when i eat healthy, lots vegetables, salad, protein, some carbs, exercise, just the necessarity amount to get to my goal (thats is enough food, really!!), while eating dessert in the amount that will make me happy and still not affect my goals! the balance is the key
I just hope everyone is healthy and happy