True as a Greek person that grew up in that Culture by and large and that is not true none of that is true the goddess she's showing is a Greek goddess named Aphrodite and no she is not depicted anywhere in Greece as fast is a falsehood and perhaps there are certain things that show her fat but it's because she's also the goddess of fertility which means the goddesses that are fat are usually fertility goddesses and the reason why they're fat is because they're having a tremendous amount of babies in fact the ones where she's depicting she's actually pregnant with like 12 different babies the another one is the same thing mnumoscene who is depicted in one of those pictures who is the goddess of memory and intelligence which people that are in this world crowd don't have because they can't represent cultures correctly yet they scream cultural appropriation whenever somebody else does it but that got us gave birth to The Sciences and the Arts known as The Muse the goddesses of the various different scientific academic and cognitive disciplines as well as the Arts so the reason why those two goddesses are fat is because they're pregnant in those depictions in fact every goddess depiction of a woman being fat is actually a depiction of them being pregnant so you're either on board with women being barefoot and pregnant or you're on board with being skinny by that very logic and I'm not meaning that to be offensive I'm literally just trying to tell you what those things actually mean this is not by far and inaccurate this is by far and inaccurate depiction of my culture it actually makes me pretty pretty angry that someone would depict a Greek goddesses as that are pregnant in those depictions you get angry whenever someone wears a mohawk or a piece of clothing that doesn't really bother Native Americans but it bothers you for Native Americans but as a Greek I am offended at this video and if it's okay for you to get offended for other cultures but then use my culture as propaganda against Health did you know that the Greeks were very skinny I'm very muscular they liked very strong women and we still like very strong women but not women who go out and do work in fact in Greece that can actually get you killed in some places at least in ancient times I'm not sure about now but in Greece we like women who are physically strong big boobs big butts and know unless they are pregnant they are not fat you can say that's patriarchy but it worked for us for hundreds of thousands of years
I think the roaring 20s diet culture and thin culture excess can be explained because it happened right after the First World War. There was a shortage of food and rationing. Most people became really thin. And thus thin became the standard.
I also think the fashion industry during this era has a lot of the blame to take. Think about Chanel and her iconic dress, which was very squared and favored boyish, thin bodies, such as her own.
massive cope, being fit has always been attractive, why are we basing popular opinion based on texts and artifacts influenced only by high society. right now they like children, are children the standard of beauty now
it was always based on what was considered wealthy. Currently being thin is a symbol of good diet but 500 years ago having a lot of food was a sign of wealth
The liquid food concept has always creeped me out. Just eat fruits, vegetables, natural carbs, and protein. That’s it. You’ll feel less tired and happier in no time.
Fun fact: Liquid food is one of the recommendations for gaining weight. Chewing is part of what makes your body realize that you have eaten and enhances the feeling of being full after a meal. With drinking calories you reduce that feeling and can sneak more calories into your meal before feeling full. Raw veggies and lots of fibre, that's what gets you feeling full with low calorie intake. Either way, you will feel tired if you're on a deficit, but it won't be as bad and you won't feel as starved.
@@xXJAng3lXxx this is a crazy take. You want your mom to look thinner? Am I misunderstanding? What the hell does it matter if she is healthy? Not everyone wants to think thin, btw. people just want to be healthy, which can look a lot of ways, as long as you're not obese or unhealthily overweight. Women naturally have a higher fat percentage because we are meant to grow and birth children. Aphrodite was sculpted with belly rows and thicker limbs. She was the epitome of beauty. So no, thinness is not a trait that should be desired above health, because remember, thinness does not equate to health. I have skinny friends who do not workout or eat healthy whole foods regularly. And most the time, an adult women who is super thin is starving herself and is unhealthy. We "desire" it because we were taught to.
@@xXJAng3lXxxyes she can she can even achieve BMI like 15-16 good luck but then please not complain about loose flabby skin everywhere, lanugo hair, but head hair loss…she can also stay healthy and either ,,average‘ like now and have a power to spent time with her loved ones
Why is this so good? So simple but so good. And if you wanna feel better; eat what you're craving sometimes. There's nothing wrong with eating a chocolate bar, if its not the only thing you're eating
The sickly, thin look was in during the romantic era popularized poets and artist figures who had “consumption” aka tuberculosis and died very young; pale, gaunt, thin and sickly (like heroin chic) has been popular before and it’s definitely very interesting how we romanticize looking like death
It’s because skinniness like that is unsustainable, so it’s a status symbol to be able to maintain it because it means you have to have a team that constantly monitors everything for you… Look at K-pop idols
Because it’s still hard work. People want a pill, an injection, something “effortless.” They don’t realize that these drugs aren’t innocuous. These celebrities are going to suffer if they ever want to come off the drug.
Some of them have body types that is just naturally size 7 or 8 so to get super thin they need drugs to get thinner than what their bodies are programmed to be.
Yeahh, it changed when science caught up with times. It was discovered that obesity is actually very unhealthy and can lead to a wide spectrum of diseases such as diabetes, high cholesterol levels etc. Although it is not healthy to be obese, it is also not healthy to starve oneself or resort to drugs to maintain a skinny figure. It’s a double edged sword. It really comes down to personal choices and what people need to do for themselves in order to maintain good health.
I see your point, but what the body shaming goes way beyond obesity, it goes against very health bodies, actually. With extremely thinness being considered the right body shape, any woman who doesn't fit into this is seen as fat, and with diet culture's advance it only got worse, we start finding "flaws" we didn't even imagine that could exist. And, as you said, this seeking for the perfect body puts people through some really unhealthy habits, be it fastings, crazy diets or inappropriate medication use. Besides, I want to also add that helping people who face obesity is not done with body shaming, just excluding these bodies and pointing how wrong they are, it is much more complex than that (and, as a dietetics student, I care a lot about those health matters). I apologize if any part of this comment sound incoherent, I am not a native speaker.
Healthy should be the standard. Obesity is horrible, but starving yourself is just as bad. There is a such thing as a healthy diet without starving or overeating. Come up with a workout plan that works for your body the best, and foods that work with your body the best. Drugs will NOT help. If you stop taking it, you’ll gain the weight back because you never changed your diet or physical exercise. Ozempic, Mounjaro, Zepbound, should ONLY be used for those who need it to stay alive, rather than given to someone who never stuck to a workout or diet plan for 1 month. You have to know what’s your problem areas, what kinds of foods make you feel tired, to be healthy. We need to prioritize health instead of obesity AND “skinny”.
I’m 31 and it’s taken all these years just to begin to undo the damage from what I learned growing up, especially from my mom. I was chubby child so I ended up doing starvation diets by 12 to keep myself skinny for years. That obviously backfired and now I’m an obese adult. I’ve recently lost over 40 lbs, but it has not been easy. My blood pressure and cholesterol were out of wack, I’m just now only getting those under control. I’ve tried the drugs prescribed by doctors too but the amphetamines and glps all made me soooo sick in different ways. I was almost one foot in the doctor’s office to get weight loss surgery before I decided to give it one last go without any medication or surgery. I’ve been diagnosed with binge eating disorder so it’s been a wild ride. The weight loss is slow, but it’s the only way I’ll truly change my habits and start a new lifestyle rather than another diet. Obesity is horrible, it has made me so sick and unable to do small tasks at such a young age. Thank you for giving good advice, I’m praying maybe we can prevent younger generations from making the same mistakes with extreme restrictions or overeating.
I heard the quote "What if suddenly all women woke up and just loved their bodies? .. The fashion industry and makeup industry would probably go broke". That it just made me reaslise how many different organisations/shops "body shame" women or at least advertise with becoming skinny or hiding your fat. And it just opened my eyes. I mean- if you just think about it, beauty standards are basically toxic things men (mostly) thought of and now make our life miserable with and ( mainly insecure and girls that want to be accepted) promote them on social media platforms now, manipulating us into thinking that is important. When did this even start?? And why?? Why did some random people decided: We need to now make womens appereance our decision/things to judge and comment on?? And it also maked me sad that once someone started it (even as a little joke) mothers will tell their daughters and now they will even tell strangers these things over the internet, making it so fucking hard to stop it.
The only times I've been skinny, I've been really unhealthy and unhappy and that's not for me. Bless people who that's different for, but I'm done suffering to try and meet someone else's unrealistic expectations for my body.
@@maetherabbit9999 That's exactly what needs to be important: Feeling good in your body! Comfortable and healthy, and that's different for everyone. Glad you found that out! :)
It wouldn’t though. I love myself and I love makeup. These aren’t mutually exclusive things. I wear makeup to have fun, I love making art on my face. I’m also a consumer of “diet culture” because I have a restricted diet due to a chronic illness. So I buy supplements that help me and I have to be conscious of my diet. That’s dieting, it’s not toxic for me because it actually keeps me happy and alive. It’s reductive and, frankly rude, to say that the only people who use such product must hate themselves.
i'd probably still buy makeup. cause a lot of people like my body. and a lot of people interrogate me when I don't use concealer over how sickly pale a look(caused by my disability). I could love my body all I like but without makeup would still have to answer the same question 30 times per day of whether I'm okay solely based on my appearance
For someoneone who has been on both sides (I had a phase of gaining over 20 kg in months because of birth control) my experience says that she said the truth. Not starving but lean with good muscle tone is the best.
She's a model and everyone judged her on how well she can wear the clothes she was paid millions to wear. Plus, she was very young then, of course, she had that mindset.
I like how people took that quote and ran with it. Kate Moss mentions in a 2018 BBC interview that her friend and her would say things like that WHILE EATING so it wasn't to the point that the pro-ana community made it out to be. I get why she regrets ever saying it.
small off-topic commnent: i love zoe's gesturing while talking, both the ways she sits and moves her head and the hands, idk how but it helps me focus and folllow the flow of the sentences as if it gave more meaning! plus it just looks good, and in a way very elegant. Thanks for the great content zoe ❤
I LOVE how deep you go in these deep-dive videos!! ...and also how you usually bring them out to a "let's be reasonable" middle ground. This whole body image, dieting social pressure turned our mind so fragile I could feel the urge to google quick fix diets just watchin the flappers or the 90's girls but it went away by the end...
My grandma is 80+ years old and literally in the hospital right now because she refuses to eat to not become 'fat'. It's horrible that she still has this mindset. she's literally fainted several times because she'll go without eating to stay thin
My grandma was like this too. She was sickly thin but didn’t care, she wanted to keep losing enough weight that she could fit into her old wedding dress from when she was 18.
so sorry for your grandma but losing weight isnt the devil here, same would happen if she was binge eating the whole day and was overweight, still in the hospital. People should add the word balance in their vocabulary ,its crazy how people can do everything but eat a balanced diet, normal food portions and simply not torture their bodies.
I feel like the fact that ZOE, who has previously spoken about her struggle with weight, just validates all the information presented in this video even more. Like, she's not saying being skinny is bad so be fat. She herself demonstrated in her own journey that you just have to find habits/routines that make you feel good, and the rest of her health/body changes followed. (She's not "skinny" naturally or because she starved/killed herself to look the way she does now, but rather looked for healthy life choices that brought her healthy results) So it's not a video where she's either in favor of or against skinny girls or fat girls, but rather wants to promote we shouldnt follow trends and just feel good with ourselves by making healthy choices.
i myself (barely a teen girl) have compared myself my nearly my whole childhood due to the idea that I "had" to be skinny. It really began to bother me when I realised how many people talked about how skinny I was. I think it forced me to believe I had to be skinny or else I wasn't anything special.
So sorry you feel this way 😢 so so many women, young adults,children ,feel this way and it breaks my heart ,I was put on so many diets as a child and as a teen developed an ED and as an adult I've struggled with my weight and it's exhausting, being thin does not equal your worth or how special you are - you are so much more than a number on a scale or a clothes size ❤
Awww it doesn’t matter at all, you’re still gonna be seen special and if anybody says otherwise don’t believe them, just live your life and find balance with your diet and activities, the less you care about your weight and losing it, the more the weight on your shoulders will be lifted off, but it’ll be hard, so I suggest you find Jesus, he really really helped me and I’m sure he would love to help you too ❤️❤️
How fun! The woman you show at 0:35 is my relative. Her name was Lillian Russell (but not really) and she was considered the most beautiful woman in the world at the time. She was a professional singer and a pioneer in living the life she wanted to live as a woman. Very “scandalous”. lol
Watching this has really helped me realize I feel bad for those women who treated their bodies in this way instead of idealizing them. Seeing those commercials especially, they are so harsh but have the same message, today’s are just more subtle and subliminal. This greatly helped reduce that noise and think more clearly about the important things
yeah ig but my mum used ozempic (slowly coming off it) and although she's always beautiful, she seems happier, and is stopping herself now. As someone who has struggled with their body since 8 years old, I think it truly was worth it for her.
@@MrsSurrealistait’s actually considered “off-label” when prescribed for weight loss, which means it is being used for a purpose not intended on the label
What really happened? you answered it already; previously, thin was correlated to sickness, lack of food and malnourishment, poverty etc. NOW, thin emphasises the ability tht although we are in an age of consumption and there is never any food unsourced, unavailable, food is by majority, plentiful for the majority - so NOT being obese, not having excess weight, not being fat shows a conservativism of self integrity over consumption and gluttony. We have it all - if you can be a healthy weight and take care of your body without over-consumption (which can be many things for many people including products) you are showing via physical appearance the self-integrity and care/respect you have for your body. But like most tings - this is multi-faceted and nuanced.
Hi,Zoe❤ I just want to say thank you. I've been your subscriber from your third video and I love your videos so much. It makes me feel so proud to see your channel having millions of subscribers. Keep shining more. You deserve it. Also, please don't delete your old videos cause those are like therapy for me. And make vlog typa videos often. I really love your content. Take care ❤ily
I think it also has to do something with the availability of food. Back when food wasn’t available for most people the beauty standard was to be plump, but when food, especially fast food, had a rise people wanted to be slim
My disable client with serious eating disorder NEEDS ozempic to control his rage and urge to eat, yet these people abuse it for the trend and it caused him to miss a few months and is still at risk of low supply. It risked both the carer, his family and his own safety.
My mom tried Ozempic because of her weight, and because she was looking for an alternative to her insulin pens (she's a diabetic) but the amount of nausea she had was so bad that it lasted less than a month, and she's been back on her regular insulin ever since, and she is just fine.
I’ve been having such an up and down time with my body. I want to love it inherently, and some days I do. I want to not think about its aesthetic, but rather its functionality. But I won’t lie, it’s really, really hard some days. It’s hard to not always think about being skinnier.
i asked chatgpt what "treat your body with diligence" meant. Treating your body with diligence means taking care of it consistently and attentively. This involves making healthy lifestyle choices such as eating nutritious foods, exercising regularly, getting enough sleep, managing stress, and avoiding harmful substances. Diligence implies being disciplined and conscientious in maintaining these habits for your physical well-being.
We also have a raise of diseases that makes loosing weight much harder. Chronically Stress, PCOS, gut problems or raise of Hashimotos is one think that does weightloss make pretty hard. Not impossible but they are much more obstacles. And poor Ill people have to work even harder than rich.
Not to mention that the amount that you have to work just to get the basics If you work in a grocery store a gas station or even a factory you don't have time to heat a good meal or even the money to make that meal When I worked at Walmart it was granola bars, when I worked at circle k it was whatever was free which was typically hot dogs, when I worked at Amazon it was vending machines I didn't have the money to put aside for real food and even with walking to work and not eating much all that it did was mess up my metabolism Not to mention if you have any medical condition or on a medication that causes your metabolism to have issues
I'm glad you mentioned this, because I think it has quite a bit to do with things. There's also the issue of sugar being put into literally everything - especially convenience foods. It's been pretty well established at this point that sugar is addictive, and when you pair that with your point of "affordable garbage food" being readily available, it's not hard to see how/why some of these issues exist.
@sunflowergirl264 Yeah. American BREAD often has added sugar even. The grain and sugar industries are federally subsidized. Factory farmingvis the norm. We have been fed lies about dietary cholesterol and fat for a CENTURY. Diet culture is a red herring compared to all of that. Besides, Nestlee alone makes more money than the ENTIRE DIET industry combined. Mon Santo is even worse. Diet culture would die on its own if we all united to fix our agricultural/food landscape.
@@UncleMikeDrop I 100% agree. I also think we need to take a good look at the FDA and other food corporations who allow the crap that is put into food. Not just the sugar and preservatives, but also the artificial dyes and flavors.
yup back then it was difficult to be fat due to starvation and symbolizing wealth. now what gets you fat is usually the fastest and cheapest thing u could buy
Well Thats how most of us became anorexic . We "just" skipped a meal.. forgot to eat ... yeah good Job raising a society with unhealthy eating habits being normalized😢
When I was in college, I had a horrible eating disorder that caused a lot of damage to every area of my life. My body was changing and asking me to be at a different weight than what I wanted it to be. The more I resisted that, the worse it got. And I think it’s important that not only we accept ourselves where we are at but also be critical of the voices asking us to look (and weigh) something specific. BMI isn’t a good measure for everyone because being a healthy weight should be measured by the individual. Are you strong and mentally fit? Are you happy and social? Are you involved in your community? Because if you can say yes to all those above and manage to get a walk in here and there, you’re probably doing alright.
Great video thank you. You have a lovely slim figure. As a women in her 40s growing up being fat shamed for being a bit chubby. I wish I had been born 200 years ago. I'm using Ozempic to lose weight, so that exercise. I wouldn't want to get too skinny, just socially acceptable thin x
Thank you, God bless you for making this video and showing people how unrealistic things have gotten with the public !All I can reply is, you can be overweight and have a heart attack, you can be underweight and have a heart attack, what matters most is health!
tbh I feel like we are all humans and all humans have some sort of insecurity, no matter how small or big the insecurity is we all have something…. & that’s the point, we all have to live with that thing. Live with ourselves. Some choose plastic surgery, it’s a mental thing.
No, the body is not the enemy of spirituality. In fact, Christians see the body and soul as being one entity, not separate from the other. Eating is simply a desire of the flesh; many Christians fasted to focus on prayer and/or penance of sins.
I’m just so tired of the diet culture. It’s just a body and every human looks different but people are so bored and insecure that they compare themselves with some random, not attainable body image. I’ve been there but I don’t want to be there anymore. I wanna be fit and healthy and most importantly happy, whatever society says is attractive. I don’t care anymore and the trend changes every two seconds anyway
Clearly whither society believed it was okay to be thin or plump should show that it can't be trusted either way. Instead fat associated around the stomach is what is the biggest issue. Also the size of your waist indicates health too. It's certain kinds of fat around our body that is what can cause detrimental effects.
I would also account the change in culture to the affordability of sugar. Sugar used to be a rich mans luxury, now it's considered a drug that's in all the cheap foods.
As someone who is a teenager and currently losing weight, making this change early in my life has been a blessing because I’ve learned I don’t need much to feel content but I’ve also learned that I don’t need to be super skinny to be happy. People need to remember that being HEALTHY is what makes u healthy. Being too fat is not good neither is being fat we get one life so don’t spend it restricting yourself to foods that make u miserable whether it’s junk food or these fad diets. A calorie deficit is the best thing but it has become so unhealthy the way people go about it. To become skinny in a way that makes u happy and content you need to go about your weight loss journey in a way that makes u happy and content
@@baum7des7lebens7 yeah not so different. just from breast to bums now . which still not so easy to achieve. that's why people keep doing BBL if you can't achieve them by genetic.
Can we all appreciate zoe and her team for all the amazing well thought videos they make...alot of research goes into them, so that we can get quality content 🎉❤
i take adhd medication that has a side effect of me having less of an appetite. its gone to the point where i just forget to eat somedays. i really dont get why people want to be like this so badly because its terrible for my health.
I’ve been on my adhd medication that made me the same way, but because I had history with ED I really was disciplined to eat regularly. It still made me skinny but not in a nice way. Hollow face, skin hanging, even though I was exercising regularly. After 4 months I decided not to take them anymore because of some side effects, even though I felt great mentally on them. My liver was in so much worse shape afterwards and I had serious anemia. Now I exercise and eat healthy, plenty of nutritious foods and I look and feel so much better. And I’m just fit and not sickly skinny (I felt so much older on medication). I will never return to dieting. ED took 10 years of my life and I was so so unhappy, unable to enjoy life, chase my dreams. I will never sacrifice my health again for anything.
Well humans are different genetically and easy/south Asian people just tend to have naturally lower bmi's compared to white Europeans, whereas black people tend to have higher BMI and muscle mass naturally, genetic features are not monolithic for humans.
The body-trends come and go. But we know what is healthy and what is not. When you go by what is healthy, you are guaranteed to be attractive, despite a current body-trend. It's nature-guaranteed.
If you haven't ever been fat, you wouldn't understand how bad it feels. Chill people, just listen to common sense and to your breathing: if it's heavy and you can't walk fast or run - do something about it. Amen :)
it is really not that simple. I have skinny friends who get winded going up the stairs. It is not all about weight. Sure, there is a point of obesity that is objectively unhealthy, but skinny people are not automatically healthy. I have been overweight and underweight and I can tell you I felt a whole lot shittier being underweight. My body couldn't stand it and poorly reacted. I was never obese so I can't attest to that, but my body could handle a little extra weight than it could without enough weight. I was weak and passing out and losing hair. Can't say the same for when I had some extra fat on me. Now I stay in a healthy range and have for years, but I feel the absolute best I ever have. I know you're not talking about being underweight, but I am making a point that skinny DOES NOT feel better than being fat. They both suck. Unless your naturally super thin, most woman are meant to have some extra weight in order to bear a child.
This is a very good overview of dieting and trends. However, I think it would have benefited from setting this into context of the overall development of what food people consume in general. This was mentioned for the depression era, but later it was completely left out. One of the reasons why - in my opinion - being thin is such a status symbol today is because it is so much easier (as in requires less willpower) and also really cheap to be fat. Cheap, convenient food is loaded with sugar that makes you crave more food long before you need more calories. If you don't have time to cook yourself, finding satisfying food options is either incredibly expensive or really high in calories. After all, fat, sugar and salt are easy and cheap ways to make food tasty and starches are the cheapest options to make a filling meal. Being thin today is a symbol of status because being fat is what happens to you very easily if you don't care. And this is not even touching on the connection between mental illness and obesity. If getting healthy food on your plate hasn't broken your bank yet, try finding a therapist.
Very good video! I really love the topics you expose and the way you develop them. On top of that you have the ability to communicate in a very clear way. I have to say that your researches and video edition are amazing. I think you deserve more views and subscribers
The glorification of the glutinous ideals of the ages when the majority starved and were impoverished always seemed pretty irrelevant too me when speaking on the skinny is chic trends of the now. we live in two completely different worlds.
I know right? Every single video on beauty standards and weight will touch on this aspect and I am always like “why is this info relevant for today’s standards though?” Scarcity was the norm back then. This is no longer the case when it comes to food, and everybody knows that already!
10:40 i was told to chew as much as i can after surgery I had the gastric sleave and so far ive been happy with the results And before anyone asks the reason i did it was to shut up my dr and get my knee fixed (sadly a actual thing that has to be done due to medical gaslighting)
I feel better when Im lighter because I was ran down by a car & the pain in especially my tailbone will be less. Ive regained 20lbs & it has to go! I won't look painfully thin & really never have been real thin. Good health to all.
21:57 i still remember being bullied relentlessly when i was a kid and yet the heaviest i ever got (which happened with puberty cause genetics didnt get the memo that we arent starving) i looked like the jessica sinpson photo that she was bullied for Mind you i didnt get that heavy until after i had been put on birth control so while on school i was even thinner and it took until recently Mind you im 27 almost and took till this past year to realize that i was a severly skinny kid over 17 years
Whats sad and makes everything harder that something considered a snack or an easy meal is super highly caloric. Where in the world are we supposed to find healthy food and not end up taking in an unhealthy amount of calories?
its so funny how shes so obsessed with criticizing diet culture while posting literally thinness obsessed content and the infamous "fat and ugly" transformation video
It's always frustrating to see systemic issues ascribed to individual failings. Let's stop subsidizing empty calories, bring back cooking, nutrition and meal planning as classes, and build walkable neighborhoods. It's so much harder to maintain fitness when it's an extra hobby you have to schedule, rather than a side effect of walking to the store and carrying home 20lbs of groceries.
I never got as many compliments about my appearance as when I was anorexic and I was not healthy, but it did encourage me to stay anorexic and not eat, etc for a while.
So I grew up with the skinny is beautiful brainwashing. Living with a mom who hated her plump body created a whole lot of problems with my view of my body. I grew up a fat kid, always bigger than my friends and learned at an early age that being overweight wasn’t attractive. So through the years of constant weight issues, body shaming, eating disorders… I have worked hard to be at the stage where I love my body and treat her like a friend instead of an enemy. I’m 39 and it’s so sad that I’ve hated my body on and off since I was eight years old. I don’t want to be skinny, I want to be healthy and kind to myself.
It’s all about being healthy. Being very thin or very overweight are both undesirable. Look after your bone health young ladies, dieting over long periods will be something you regret later on!
I feel like the only "diet" worth anything is a whole food diet, and it shouldn't be considered a diet but a lifestyle, not something you do for a little while to achieve a goal only to go right back to where you were before. A healthy food lifestyle should be the goal, but it is so expensive now adays. and I don't mean healthy as in counting calories but healthy in the nutrients you get from it
Again, what is considered a ideal body always correlates to what is less accessible to the common people. The minute a trend becomes accessible it is deemed outdated and a new beauty standard emerges. Thinness is no different, maintaining a sickling thin body is much easier when you are a milionar, with personal nutritionists and acces to the best doctors in case your extreme methods start to go wrong. Also if you don't have to endure long work hours every day just to pay the bills... Midst all this we have money hungry companies that create harmful "solutions" and market it to the common folk, desperate to fit the rich's beauty standards.
When I was a young child, maybe around 10-12, my best friend had a double chin and I thought she was the absolute coolest so I would always have fun with her as we “measured” chins. I had to always force it out, and even then? It would barely show. After I started a required meditation for anxiety and depression, I gained 200 lbs within 2 years. Once I realized a double chin was determined as “ugly” and “gross” I became insecure. I’m much older now and I’ve learned that my body is quite literally a canvas! Some people take it as a bad thing but I see it as making me unique. I enjoy makeup but I also enjoy being silly with said double chin. I enjoy being an idiot with myself, including silly faces and poses during “serious” photos, patting my belly like I’m pregnant, or more! I’m overweight and you know what? I’m proud! It’s part of who I am, and I will NEVER be ashamed to look unique 😉 (P.S- my fellow obeses girlies, or guys! You can still rock crop tops and short shorts if you want!)
I try to describe myself in this way - normal size, though a little overweight. Most people act very 'no no no no' about this. But I mean it as a fact. I mean A LITTLE overweight, nothing big. Like many people are a little overweight because we just eat a little too much.
When I learned that us women get our first periods only once our bodies reach a certain amount of fat percentage, and then thought about how in 90s and early 00s girls starved themselves to severe cases of anorexia, many of them losing their fertility with the fat… makes my blood boil. Thank god for the support system and strong mentality I had because the amount of boys telling me I was fat and I needed to have the gap between my thighs at 15 was ungodly.
also interesting choice of words at the end: "treat it with diligence" - diligence: devoted and painstaking work: steady, earnest, and energetic effort : devoted and painstaking work and application to accomplish an undertaking. Doesn't sound anything like obesity to me.
Hope you liked this little historical dive! 🪶Which diet in the last 100 years surprised you the most?😨
The Alkaline one..... like what the heck. AND SLIMMING SOAP? 🤦🏻♀️
Oprahs liquid diet was just too much fr
Please turn to Jesus he loves you so much and wants a relationship with you
True as a Greek person that grew up in that Culture by and large and that is not true none of that is true the goddess she's showing is a Greek goddess named Aphrodite and no she is not depicted anywhere in Greece as fast is a falsehood and perhaps there are certain things that show her fat but it's because she's also the goddess of fertility which means the goddesses that are fat are usually fertility goddesses and the reason why they're fat is because they're having a tremendous amount of babies in fact the ones where she's depicting she's actually pregnant with like 12 different babies the another one is the same thing mnumoscene who is depicted in one of those pictures who is the goddess of memory and intelligence which people that are in this world crowd don't have because they can't represent cultures correctly yet they scream cultural appropriation whenever somebody else does it but that got us gave birth to The Sciences and the Arts known as The Muse the goddesses of the various different scientific academic and cognitive disciplines as well as the Arts so the reason why those two goddesses are fat is because they're pregnant in those depictions in fact every goddess depiction of a woman being fat is actually a depiction of them being pregnant so you're either on board with women being barefoot and pregnant or you're on board with being skinny by that very logic and I'm not meaning that to be offensive I'm literally just trying to tell you what those things actually mean this is not by far and inaccurate this is by far and inaccurate depiction of my culture it actually makes me pretty pretty angry that someone would depict a Greek goddesses as that are pregnant in those depictions you get angry whenever someone wears a mohawk or a piece of clothing that doesn't really bother Native Americans but it bothers you for Native Americans but as a Greek I am offended at this video and if it's okay for you to get offended for other cultures but then use my culture as propaganda against Health did you know that the Greeks were very skinny I'm very muscular they liked very strong women and we still like very strong women but not women who go out and do work in fact in Greece that can actually get you killed in some places at least in ancient times I'm not sure about now but in Greece we like women who are physically strong big boobs big butts and know unless they are pregnant they are not fat you can say that's patriarchy but it worked for us for hundreds of thousands of years
I think the roaring 20s diet culture and thin culture excess can be explained because it happened right after the First World War. There was a shortage of food and rationing. Most people became really thin. And thus thin became the standard.
I also think the fashion industry during this era has a lot of the blame to take. Think about Chanel and her iconic dress, which was very squared and favored boyish, thin bodies, such as her own.
This was certainly not the case in the U.S. There was no rationing and no food shortage because we only fought in WWI for one and a half years.
massive cope, being fit has always been attractive, why are we basing popular opinion based on texts and artifacts influenced only by high society. right now they like children, are children the standard of beauty now
@@deocrat huh? starving isn't fit
it was always based on what was considered wealthy. Currently being thin is a symbol of good diet but 500 years ago having a lot of food was a sign of wealth
The liquid food concept has always creeped me out. Just eat fruits, vegetables, natural carbs, and protein. That’s it. You’ll feel less tired and happier in no time.
And for people who are trying to loose weight, vegetables and protein and a BUNCH of healthy fats ❤
Fun fact: Liquid food is one of the recommendations for gaining weight. Chewing is part of what makes your body realize that you have eaten and enhances the feeling of being full after a meal. With drinking calories you reduce that feeling and can sneak more calories into your meal before feeling full.
Raw veggies and lots of fibre, that's what gets you feeling full with low calorie intake. Either way, you will feel tired if you're on a deficit, but it won't be as bad and you won't feel as starved.
@@xXJAng3lXxx this is a crazy take. You want your mom to look thinner? Am I misunderstanding? What the hell does it matter if she is healthy? Not everyone wants to think thin, btw. people just want to be healthy, which can look a lot of ways, as long as you're not obese or unhealthily overweight. Women naturally have a higher fat percentage because we are meant to grow and birth children. Aphrodite was sculpted with belly rows and thicker limbs. She was the epitome of beauty. So no, thinness is not a trait that should be desired above health, because remember, thinness does not equate to health. I have skinny friends who do not workout or eat healthy whole foods regularly. And most the time, an adult women who is super thin is starving herself and is unhealthy. We "desire" it because we were taught to.
@@xXJAng3lXxxyes she can she can even achieve BMI like 15-16 good luck but then please not complain about loose flabby skin everywhere, lanugo hair, but head hair loss…she can also stay healthy and either ,,average‘ like now and have a power to spent time with her loved ones
Why is this so good? So simple but so good.
And if you wanna feel better; eat what you're craving sometimes. There's nothing wrong with eating a chocolate bar, if its not the only thing you're eating
This really shows how humans are easily influenced by other people and their constant desire to fit in a group instead of being on their own.
The sickly, thin look was in during the romantic era popularized poets and artist figures who had “consumption” aka tuberculosis and died very young; pale, gaunt, thin and sickly (like heroin chic) has been popular before and it’s definitely very interesting how we romanticize looking like death
Like how aurther morgan was portraid in red dead redemption 2 lol
It’s because skinniness like that is unsustainable, so it’s a status symbol to be able to maintain it because it means you have to have a team that constantly monitors everything for you… Look at K-pop idols
Dying young was all the rage at that time to be fair. The association with thin = healthy wasn't made yet, quite the opposite as far as I know
I'll never understand why influencers use such drastic measures when ESPECIALLY THEY have the money and means to get fit in a healthy way
Because it’s still hard work. People want a pill, an injection, something “effortless.” They don’t realize that these drugs aren’t innocuous. These celebrities are going to suffer if they ever want to come off the drug.
Some of them tend to be the most insecure since they are in the spotlight at all this leads to drastic measures
If everyone could,they would choose the easy,fast way out of it.
Some of them have body types that is just naturally size 7 or 8 so to get super thin they need drugs to get thinner than what their bodies are programmed to be.
Because they’re lazy
Yeahh, it changed when science caught up with times. It was discovered that obesity is actually very unhealthy and can lead to a wide spectrum of diseases such as diabetes, high cholesterol levels etc. Although it is not healthy to be obese, it is also not healthy to starve oneself or resort to drugs to maintain a skinny figure. It’s a double edged sword. It really comes down to personal choices and what people need to do for themselves in order to maintain good health.
Exactly.
Im sure osteoporosis is so much better and healthier
I never saw how obesity was attractive.
Balance between obesity and skinnies
I see your point, but what the body shaming goes way beyond obesity, it goes against very health bodies, actually. With extremely thinness being considered the right body shape, any woman who doesn't fit into this is seen as fat, and with diet culture's advance it only got worse, we start finding "flaws" we didn't even imagine that could exist. And, as you said, this seeking for the perfect body puts people through some really unhealthy habits, be it fastings, crazy diets or inappropriate medication use. Besides, I want to also add that helping people who face obesity is not done with body shaming, just excluding these bodies and pointing how wrong they are, it is much more complex than that (and, as a dietetics student, I care a lot about those health matters). I apologize if any part of this comment sound incoherent, I am not a native speaker.
Healthy should be the standard. Obesity is horrible, but starving yourself is just as bad. There is a such thing as a healthy diet without starving or overeating. Come up with a workout plan that works for your body the best, and foods that work with your body the best. Drugs will NOT help. If you stop taking it, you’ll gain the weight back because you never changed your diet or physical exercise. Ozempic, Mounjaro, Zepbound, should ONLY be used for those who need it to stay alive, rather than given to someone who never stuck to a workout or diet plan for 1 month. You have to know what’s your problem areas, what kinds of foods make you feel tired, to be healthy. We need to prioritize health instead of obesity AND “skinny”.
I’m 31 and it’s taken all these years just to begin to undo the damage from what I learned growing up, especially from my mom. I was chubby child so I ended up doing starvation diets by 12 to keep myself skinny for years. That obviously backfired and now I’m an obese adult. I’ve recently lost over 40 lbs, but it has not been easy. My blood pressure and cholesterol were out of wack, I’m just now only getting those under control. I’ve tried the drugs prescribed by doctors too but the amphetamines and glps all made me soooo sick in different ways. I was almost one foot in the doctor’s office to get weight loss surgery before I decided to give it one last go without any medication or surgery. I’ve been diagnosed with binge eating disorder so it’s been a wild ride. The weight loss is slow, but it’s the only way I’ll truly change my habits and start a new lifestyle rather than another diet. Obesity is horrible, it has made me so sick and unable to do small tasks at such a young age. Thank you for giving good advice, I’m praying maybe we can prevent younger generations from making the same mistakes with extreme restrictions or overeating.
Healthy for each individual is different
It's not based on looks
I heard the quote "What if suddenly all women woke up and just loved their bodies? .. The fashion industry and makeup industry would probably go broke". That it just made me reaslise how many different organisations/shops "body shame" women or at least advertise with becoming skinny or hiding your fat. And it just opened my eyes. I mean- if you just think about it, beauty standards are basically toxic things men (mostly) thought of and now make our life miserable with and ( mainly insecure and girls that want to be accepted) promote them on social media platforms now, manipulating us into thinking that is important. When did this even start?? And why?? Why did some random people decided: We need to now make womens appereance our decision/things to judge and comment on?? And it also maked me sad that once someone started it (even as a little joke) mothers will tell their daughters and now they will even tell strangers these things over the internet, making it so fucking hard to stop it.
The only times I've been skinny, I've been really unhealthy and unhappy and that's not for me. Bless people who that's different for, but I'm done suffering to try and meet someone else's unrealistic expectations for my body.
I wonder, as women started to get more and more rights at the start of the 20th century, did men create diet culture to try and suppress them?
@@maetherabbit9999 That's exactly what needs to be important: Feeling good in your body! Comfortable and healthy, and that's different for everyone. Glad you found that out! :)
It wouldn’t though. I love myself and I love makeup. These aren’t mutually exclusive things. I wear makeup to have fun, I love making art on my face.
I’m also a consumer of “diet culture” because I have a restricted diet due to a chronic illness. So I buy supplements that help me and I have to be conscious of my diet. That’s dieting, it’s not toxic for me because it actually keeps me happy and alive.
It’s reductive and, frankly rude, to say that the only people who use such product must hate themselves.
i'd probably still buy makeup. cause a lot of people like my body. and a lot of people interrogate me when I don't use concealer over how sickly pale a look(caused by my disability). I could love my body all I like but without makeup would still have to answer the same question 30 times per day of whether I'm okay solely based on my appearance
Kate Moss once said: "Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels." it's not her quote but I remember people was not happy about that
For someoneone who has been on both sides (I had a phase of gaining over 20 kg in months because of birth control) my experience says that she said the truth. Not starving but lean with good muscle tone is the best.
@@baum7des7lebens7 nothing is better than being healthy fit and not ending up in an early grave
She's a model and everyone judged her on how well she can wear the clothes she was paid millions to wear. Plus, she was very young then, of course, she had that mindset.
I like how people took that quote and ran with it. Kate Moss mentions in a 2018 BBC interview that her friend and her would say things like that WHILE EATING so it wasn't to the point that the pro-ana community made it out to be. I get why she regrets ever saying it.
I've always wished to be skinny and when I was I became skinny I still thought I was fat🥲
Zoe you are genuinely so amazing for talking about these topics. You help so so many people and I’m so grateful to have found your channel❤
found you somewhwere else lmfaoo
@@cosmic7473 COSMIC omg ily and Imy!
small off-topic commnent: i love zoe's gesturing while talking, both the ways she sits and moves her head and the hands, idk how but it helps me focus and folllow the flow of the sentences as if it gave more meaning! plus it just looks good, and in a way very elegant.
Thanks for the great content zoe ❤
I LOVE how deep you go in these deep-dive videos!! ...and also how you usually bring them out to a "let's be reasonable" middle ground. This whole body image, dieting social pressure turned our mind so fragile I could feel the urge to google quick fix diets just watchin the flappers or the 90's girls but it went away by the end...
My grandma is 80+ years old and literally in the hospital right now because she refuses to eat to not become 'fat'. It's horrible that she still has this mindset. she's literally fainted several times because she'll go without eating to stay thin
WOW THATS SO SAD SHE SHOULD BE ENJOIMYING HER LIFE
My grandma was like this too. She was sickly thin but didn’t care, she wanted to keep losing enough weight that she could fit into her old wedding dress from when she was 18.
so sorry for your grandma but losing weight isnt the devil here, same would happen if she was binge eating the whole day and was overweight, still in the hospital. People should add the word balance in their vocabulary ,its crazy how people can do everything but eat a balanced diet, normal food portions and simply not torture their bodies.
I feel like the fact that ZOE, who has previously spoken about her struggle with weight, just validates all the information presented in this video even more. Like, she's not saying being skinny is bad so be fat. She herself demonstrated in her own journey that you just have to find habits/routines that make you feel good, and the rest of her health/body changes followed. (She's not "skinny" naturally or because she starved/killed herself to look the way she does now, but rather looked for healthy life choices that brought her healthy results) So it's not a video where she's either in favor of or against skinny girls or fat girls, but rather wants to promote we shouldnt follow trends and just feel good with ourselves by making healthy choices.
well said thank you sm
i myself (barely a teen girl) have compared myself my nearly my whole childhood due to the idea that I "had" to be skinny. It really began to bother me when I realised how many people talked about how skinny I was. I think it forced me to believe I had to be skinny or else I wasn't anything special.
So sorry you feel this way 😢 so so many women, young adults,children ,feel this way and it breaks my heart ,I was put on so many diets as a child and as a teen developed an ED and as an adult I've struggled with my weight and it's exhausting, being thin does not equal your worth or how special you are - you are so much more than a number on a scale or a clothes size ❤
Awww it doesn’t matter at all, you’re still gonna be seen special and if anybody says otherwise don’t believe them, just live your life and find balance with your diet and activities, the less you care about your weight and losing it, the more the weight on your shoulders will be lifted off, but it’ll be hard, so I suggest you find Jesus, he really really helped me and I’m sure he would love to help you too ❤️❤️
Welcome to the world... it's not a nice place. We all went through it as girls and then women.
How fun! The woman you show at 0:35 is my relative. Her name was Lillian Russell (but not really) and she was considered the most beautiful woman in the world at the time. She was a professional singer and a pioneer in living the life she wanted to live as a woman. Very “scandalous”. lol
My mother had furniture that was named after her
Watching this has really helped me realize I feel bad for those women who treated their bodies in this way instead of idealizing them. Seeing those commercials especially, they are so harsh but have the same message, today’s are just more subtle and subliminal. This greatly helped reduce that noise and think more clearly about the important things
What sucks is that most people who are not diabetic don't need it.
It’s FDA approved for weight loss.
@@MrsSurrealista Still, already skinny women don't need it.
yeah ig but my mum used ozempic (slowly coming off it) and although she's always beautiful, she seems happier, and is stopping herself now. As someone who has struggled with their body since 8 years old, I think it truly was worth it for her.
@@user.sammyvanityfanshe needed wegovy not ozempic. Let the people that truly need it get it.
@@MrsSurrealistait’s actually considered “off-label” when prescribed for weight loss, which means it is being used for a purpose not intended on the label
What really happened? you answered it already; previously, thin was correlated to sickness, lack of food and malnourishment, poverty etc. NOW, thin emphasises the ability tht although we are in an age of consumption and there is never any food unsourced, unavailable, food is by majority, plentiful for the majority - so NOT being obese, not having excess weight, not being fat shows a conservativism of self integrity over consumption and gluttony. We have it all - if you can be a healthy weight and take care of your body without over-consumption (which can be many things for many people including products) you are showing via physical appearance the self-integrity and care/respect you have for your body. But like most tings - this is multi-faceted and nuanced.
Hi,Zoe❤ I just want to say thank you. I've been your subscriber from your third video and I love your videos so much. It makes me feel so proud to see your channel having millions of subscribers. Keep shining more. You deserve it. Also, please don't delete your old videos cause those are like therapy for me. And make vlog typa videos often. I really love your content. Take care ❤ily
you are so precious!! 🫶🏻Thank you for growing with me🌹
I love how 3 of my favourite commentary youtubers basically posted a video on the same day and same topic!
I think it also has to do something with the availability of food. Back when food wasn’t available for most people the beauty standard was to be plump, but when food, especially fast food, had a rise people wanted to be slim
My disable client with serious eating disorder NEEDS ozempic to control his rage and urge to eat, yet these people abuse it for the trend and it caused him to miss a few months and is still at risk of low supply. It risked both the carer, his family and his own safety.
My dad has also been having problems with getting it through his Dr and he needs it to help manage his diabetes
The man who wrote the first diet book had drunkorexia
My mom tried Ozempic because of her weight, and because she was looking for an alternative to her insulin pens (she's a diabetic) but the amount of nausea she had was so bad that it lasted less than a month, and she's been back on her regular insulin ever since, and she is just fine.
I’ve been having such an up and down time with my body. I want to love it inherently, and some days I do. I want to not think about its aesthetic, but rather its functionality. But I won’t lie, it’s really, really hard some days. It’s hard to not always think about being skinnier.
i asked chatgpt what "treat your body with diligence" meant.
Treating your body with diligence means taking care of it consistently and attentively. This involves making healthy lifestyle choices such as eating nutritious foods, exercising regularly, getting enough sleep, managing stress, and avoiding harmful substances. Diligence implies being disciplined and conscientious in maintaining these habits for your physical well-being.
4:50 the creativity in this gesture and edit 🤌
We also have a raise of diseases that makes loosing weight much harder. Chronically Stress, PCOS, gut problems or raise of Hashimotos is one think that does weightloss make pretty hard. Not impossible but they are much more obstacles. And poor Ill people have to work even harder than rich.
Not to mention that the amount that you have to work just to get the basics
If you work in a grocery store a gas station or even a factory you don't have time to heat a good meal or even the money to make that meal
When I worked at Walmart it was granola bars, when I worked at circle k it was whatever was free which was typically hot dogs, when I worked at Amazon it was vending machines
I didn't have the money to put aside for real food and even with walking to work and not eating much all that it did was mess up my metabolism
Not to mention if you have any medical condition or on a medication that causes your metabolism to have issues
Seeing this video before my work out and I’m dieting 🙂
Love her videos, they talk about nowdays' problems that everyone seem to ignore
“They only begin to gain meaning as we add our interpretations to the observations”
Might it be the difficulty?
It is simply EASIER in the modern day for the average person to get fat.
Addictive affordable garbage food is everywhere.
Addictive and highly caloric food + reduced need for physical effort = obesity epidemic
I'm glad you mentioned this, because I think it has quite a bit to do with things. There's also the issue of sugar being put into literally everything - especially convenience foods. It's been pretty well established at this point that sugar is addictive, and when you pair that with your point of "affordable garbage food" being readily available, it's not hard to see how/why some of these issues exist.
@sunflowergirl264 Yeah. American BREAD often has added sugar even.
The grain and sugar industries are federally subsidized.
Factory farmingvis the norm.
We have been fed lies about dietary cholesterol and fat for a CENTURY.
Diet culture is a red herring compared to all of that.
Besides, Nestlee alone makes more money than the ENTIRE DIET industry combined.
Mon Santo is even worse.
Diet culture would die on its own if we all united to fix our agricultural/food landscape.
@@UncleMikeDrop I 100% agree. I also think we need to take a good look at the FDA and other food corporations who allow the crap that is put into food. Not just the sugar and preservatives, but also the artificial dyes and flavors.
yup back then it was difficult to be fat due to starvation and symbolizing wealth. now what gets you fat is usually the fastest and cheapest thing u could buy
Well Thats how most of us became anorexic . We "just" skipped a meal.. forgot to eat ... yeah good Job raising a society with unhealthy eating habits being normalized😢
Fr.. i was anorexic and now i struggle with binge eating disorder... Eating disorder suck sm
Zoe really knows how to make great vídeos!
We need more big videos like this. You're like a modern Philosopher, Go Zoe
When I was in college, I had a horrible eating disorder that caused a lot of damage to every area of my life. My body was changing and asking me to be at a different weight than what I wanted it to be. The more I resisted that, the worse it got. And I think it’s important that not only we accept ourselves where we are at but also be critical of the voices asking us to look (and weigh) something specific. BMI isn’t a good measure for everyone because being a healthy weight should be measured by the individual. Are you strong and mentally fit? Are you happy and social? Are you involved in your community? Because if you can say yes to all those above and manage to get a walk in here and there, you’re probably doing alright.
While you were describing Venus I realized that is literally my body type 😭
Same
I love watching your videos so much I feel like within these 15-20 minute videos I learn a lot. Keep up the good work
Great video thank you. You have a lovely slim figure. As a women in her 40s growing up being fat shamed for being a bit chubby. I wish I had been born 200 years ago. I'm using Ozempic to lose weight, so that exercise. I wouldn't want to get too skinny, just socially acceptable thin x
Thank you, God bless you for making this video and showing people how unrealistic things have gotten with the public !All I can reply is, you can be overweight and have a heart attack, you can be underweight and have a heart attack, what matters most is health!
tbh I feel like we are all humans and all humans have some sort of insecurity, no matter how small or big the insecurity is we all have something…. & that’s the point, we all have to live with that thing. Live with ourselves. Some choose plastic surgery, it’s a mental thing.
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Why should someone else die for my sins? Isn't this unfair? So where has justice gone?@user-vl6dc2mc8h
@user-vl6dc2mc8hbro what
No, the body is not the enemy of spirituality. In fact, Christians see the body and soul as being one entity, not separate from the other. Eating is simply a desire of the flesh; many Christians fasted to focus on prayer and/or penance of sins.
I’m just so tired of the diet culture. It’s just a body and every human looks different but people are so bored and insecure that they compare themselves with some random, not attainable body image. I’ve been there but I don’t want to be there anymore. I wanna be fit and healthy and most importantly happy, whatever society says is attractive. I don’t care anymore and the trend changes every two seconds anyway
Clearly whither society believed it was okay to be thin or plump should show that it can't be trusted either way. Instead fat associated around the stomach is what is the biggest issue.
Also the size of your waist indicates health too. It's certain kinds of fat around our body that is what can cause detrimental effects.
I would also account the change in culture to the affordability of sugar. Sugar used to be a rich mans luxury, now it's considered a drug that's in all the cheap foods.
As someone who is a teenager and currently losing weight, making this change early in my life has been a blessing because I’ve learned I don’t need much to feel content but I’ve also learned that I don’t need to be super skinny to be happy. People need to remember that being HEALTHY is what makes u healthy. Being too fat is not good neither is being fat we get one life so don’t spend it restricting yourself to foods that make u miserable whether it’s junk food or these fad diets. A calorie deficit is the best thing but it has become so unhealthy the way people go about it. To become skinny in a way that makes u happy and content you need to go about your weight loss journey in a way that makes u happy and content
The editing is excellent! 💛
100 dark years of dieting culture was a better title imo ❤
More like culture creation. Brainwashing the public.
Fantastic concept for a video Zoe, love watching all of these but this is a particularly interesting subject to me ❤
It's getting worse now, skinny? No. Fat? No. you have to be fat and skinny at the same time 💀 which is even harder to achieve
It isn't really new it only shifted from big breast with slim waist to big bum with thin waist.
Nah just stop eating the standard American diet and eat only real food and your body will be healthy.
@@baum7des7lebens7 yeah not so different. just from breast to bums now . which still not so easy to achieve. that's why people keep doing BBL if you can't achieve them by genetic.
absolutely love this video, the editing is wow 🙌
This is an awesome video! Love the way you explained the transformation of the meaning of “skinny”
This video is awesome. I hope you'll talk more about the side affects of such drugs in the future.
Can we all appreciate zoe and her team for all the amazing well thought videos they make...alot of research goes into them, so that we can get quality content 🎉❤
Thank you so much for this deep dive Zoe. ❤
i take adhd medication that has a side effect of me having less of an appetite. its gone to the point where i just forget to eat somedays. i really dont get why people want to be like this so badly because its terrible for my health.
I’ve been on my adhd medication that made me the same way, but because I had history with ED I really was disciplined to eat regularly. It still made me skinny but not in a nice way. Hollow face, skin hanging, even though I was exercising regularly. After 4 months I decided not to take them anymore because of some side effects, even though I felt great mentally on them. My liver was in so much worse shape afterwards and I had serious anemia. Now I exercise and eat healthy, plenty of nutritious foods and I look and feel so much better. And I’m just fit and not sickly skinny (I felt so much older on medication). I will never return to dieting. ED took 10 years of my life and I was so so unhappy, unable to enjoy life, chase my dreams. I will never sacrifice my health again for anything.
slim figure was used to be considered a sign of beauty in south Asia since ancient times!
Well humans are different genetically and easy/south Asian people just tend to have naturally lower bmi's compared to white Europeans, whereas black people tend to have higher BMI and muscle mass naturally, genetic features are not monolithic for humans.
Yet another amazing video! Kudos to you for making this, for educating.
I think we should have a balance in life..not fat not skinny just healthy.
The body-trends come and go. But we know what is healthy and what is not. When you go by what is healthy, you are guaranteed to be attractive, despite a current body-trend. It's nature-guaranteed.
If you haven't ever been fat, you wouldn't understand how bad it feels. Chill people, just listen to common sense and to your breathing: if it's heavy and you can't walk fast or run - do something about it. Amen :)
it is really not that simple. I have skinny friends who get winded going up the stairs. It is not all about weight. Sure, there is a point of obesity that is objectively unhealthy, but skinny people are not automatically healthy. I have been overweight and underweight and I can tell you I felt a whole lot shittier being underweight. My body couldn't stand it and poorly reacted. I was never obese so I can't attest to that, but my body could handle a little extra weight than it could without enough weight. I was weak and passing out and losing hair. Can't say the same for when I had some extra fat on me. Now I stay in a healthy range and have for years, but I feel the absolute best I ever have. I know you're not talking about being underweight, but I am making a point that skinny DOES NOT feel better than being fat. They both suck. Unless your naturally super thin, most woman are meant to have some extra weight in order to bear a child.
This is a very good overview of dieting and trends. However, I think it would have benefited from setting this into context of the overall development of what food people consume in general. This was mentioned for the depression era, but later it was completely left out.
One of the reasons why - in my opinion - being thin is such a status symbol today is because it is so much easier (as in requires less willpower) and also really cheap to be fat. Cheap, convenient food is loaded with sugar that makes you crave more food long before you need more calories. If you don't have time to cook yourself, finding satisfying food options is either incredibly expensive or really high in calories. After all, fat, sugar and salt are easy and cheap ways to make food tasty and starches are the cheapest options to make a filling meal.
Being thin today is a symbol of status because being fat is what happens to you very easily if you don't care.
And this is not even touching on the connection between mental illness and obesity. If getting healthy food on your plate hasn't broken your bank yet, try finding a therapist.
Very good video! I really love the topics you expose and the way you develop them. On top of that you have the ability to communicate in a very clear way. I have to say that your researches and video edition are amazing. I think you deserve more views and subscribers
The glorification of the glutinous ideals of the ages when the majority starved and were impoverished always seemed pretty irrelevant too me when speaking on the skinny is chic trends of the now. we live in two completely different worlds.
I know right? Every single video on beauty standards and weight will touch on this aspect and I am always like “why is this info relevant for today’s standards though?”
Scarcity was the norm back then.
This is no longer the case when it comes to food, and everybody knows that already!
10:40 i was told to chew as much as i can after surgery
I had the gastric sleave and so far ive been happy with the results
And before anyone asks the reason i did it was to shut up my dr and get my knee fixed (sadly a actual thing that has to be done due to medical gaslighting)
I feel better when Im lighter because I was ran down by a car & the pain in especially my tailbone will be less. Ive regained 20lbs & it has to go! I won't look painfully thin & really never have been real thin. Good health to all.
21:57 i still remember being bullied relentlessly when i was a kid and yet the heaviest i ever got (which happened with puberty cause genetics didnt get the memo that we arent starving) i looked like the jessica sinpson photo that she was bullied for
Mind you i didnt get that heavy until after i had been put on birth control so while on school i was even thinner and it took until recently
Mind you im 27 almost and took till this past year to realize that i was a severly skinny kid over 17 years
American media never fails to amaze me
Whats sad and makes everything harder that something considered a snack or an easy meal is super highly caloric. Where in the world are we supposed to find healthy food and not end up taking in an unhealthy amount of calories?
its so funny how shes so obsessed with criticizing diet culture while posting literally thinness obsessed content and the infamous "fat and ugly" transformation video
Wasn't that an old video?
Why you giving her the view tho?
I guess it's easy to criticize when you're already ultra-skinny.
And her diet and how to be "skinny" videos are still up lol
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The amount of research youve mustve done is insane to think about! Tysm for this deep dive with me being a history fanatic ❤❤
Great job presenting Zoe, well done.
It's always frustrating to see systemic issues ascribed to individual failings. Let's stop subsidizing empty calories, bring back cooking, nutrition and meal planning as classes, and build walkable neighborhoods. It's so much harder to maintain fitness when it's an extra hobby you have to schedule, rather than a side effect of walking to the store and carrying home 20lbs of groceries.
I never got as many compliments about my appearance as when I was anorexic and I was not healthy, but it did encourage me to stay anorexic and not eat, etc for a while.
"oh oh, your calories are showing" 🤣🤣
Watching this while eating lunch was a bad idea
So I grew up with the skinny is beautiful brainwashing. Living with a mom who hated her plump body created a whole lot of problems with my view of my body. I grew up a fat kid, always bigger than my friends and learned at an early age that being overweight wasn’t attractive. So through the years of constant weight issues, body shaming, eating disorders… I have worked hard to be at the stage where I love my body and treat her like a friend instead of an enemy. I’m 39 and it’s so sad that I’ve hated my body on and off since I was eight years old. I don’t want to be skinny, I want to be healthy and kind to myself.
This would be a more comprehensive video, if it also addressed corseting for hundreds of years prior - would like to see her take on this factor x
Your voice taught my heart ❤
It's so calm and beautiful 😻❣️
amazing video, absolutely fascinating, the diet that seemed a bit extreme was the intermittent fasting
Caught you in 10 mins✨✨ by the way lot's of love from me ......👩🎤💜
you got me ;) 💜
10:40 🎶 Figurineeeeesss. Crunch. Crunch. Crunch. Crunch. Crunch.🎶😂
Just recognized your channel....great video and cinematic style❤❤❤🎉
It’s all about being healthy. Being very thin or very overweight are both undesirable. Look after your bone health young ladies, dieting over long periods will be something you regret later on!
I feel like the only "diet" worth anything is a whole food diet, and it shouldn't be considered a diet but a lifestyle, not something you do for a little while to achieve a goal only to go right back to where you were before. A healthy food lifestyle should be the goal, but it is so expensive now adays. and I don't mean healthy as in counting calories but healthy in the nutrients you get from it
Again, what is considered a ideal body always correlates to what is less accessible to the common people. The minute a trend becomes accessible it is deemed outdated and a new beauty standard emerges. Thinness is no different, maintaining a sickling thin body is much easier when you are a milionar, with personal nutritionists and acces to the best doctors in case your extreme methods start to go wrong. Also if you don't have to endure long work hours every day just to pay the bills...
Midst all this we have money hungry companies that create harmful "solutions" and market it to the common folk, desperate to fit the rich's beauty standards.
I take ozempic. I have to lose weight for healthy issues cause I can not lose weight with diet
你好！zoe I've never been this much early to watch your videos.
i dont really agree with the "you have to be rich to be thin" when in reality its the oppositeee!
When I was a young child, maybe around 10-12, my best friend had a double chin and I thought she was the absolute coolest so I would always have fun with her as we “measured” chins. I had to always force it out, and even then? It would barely show.
After I started a required meditation for anxiety and depression, I gained 200 lbs within 2 years. Once I realized a double chin was determined as “ugly” and “gross” I became insecure.
I’m much older now and I’ve learned that my body is quite literally a canvas! Some people take it as a bad thing but I see it as making me unique. I enjoy makeup but I also enjoy being silly with said double chin. I enjoy being an idiot with myself, including silly faces and poses during “serious” photos, patting my belly like I’m pregnant, or more! I’m overweight and you know what? I’m proud! It’s part of who I am, and I will NEVER be ashamed to look unique 😉
(P.S- my fellow obeses girlies, or guys! You can still rock crop tops and short shorts if you want!)
I try to describe myself in this way - normal size, though a little overweight. Most people act very 'no no no no' about this. But I mean it as a fact. I mean A LITTLE overweight, nothing big. Like many people are a little overweight because we just eat a little too much.
love your editing, wow!!!! and voice!
Ook so fletcher means something completely different in my city lol. I like this new version much better lmao
I'm soo skinny with inflation it was easy to be limited on food not by choice
Fascinating and your dress is lovely suits you beautifully!
When I learned that us women get our first periods only once our bodies reach a certain amount of fat percentage, and then thought about how in 90s and early 00s girls starved themselves to severe cases of anorexia, many of them losing their fertility with the fat… makes my blood boil. Thank god for the support system and strong mentality I had because the amount of boys telling me I was fat and I needed to have the gap between my thighs at 15 was ungodly.
also interesting choice of words at the end: "treat it with diligence" - diligence: devoted and painstaking work: steady, earnest, and energetic effort : devoted and painstaking work and application to accomplish an undertaking. Doesn't sound anything like obesity to me.