Is Being Fat a Choice? | Middle Ground

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    0:00 intro
    0:32 Being fat or skinny is a choice
    6:56 I would rather be skinny than fat
    12:42 America has an obesity problem
    21:59 Fat shaming is worse than skinny shaming
    28:10 Diet culture has positive effects
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  • @jubilee
    @jubilee  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +929

    Exclusive prompt only on Patreon: bit.ly/47HwDsG “The body positivity movement promotes childhood obesity”

    • @MaxRamos8
      @MaxRamos8 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      I think it's a 50% split cuz genetics, environment, economics, and upbringing are all factors that aren't controlled

    • @dohadena
      @dohadena 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

      are you guys not making enough money from millions of views and ads on here why is a part of the video behind a paywall? 😐

    • @catalyst3713
      @catalyst3713 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Yes it absolutely does.

    • @user-sf9gs2pg1b
      @user-sf9gs2pg1b 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      @@MaxRamos8
      I feel like genetics does play a role, but probably less than it’s implied. Consider that a family of overweight people will feed their kids what they eat and thus make it appear genetic, when in reality they’re just eating the same foods in the quantities their family has.

    • @LuZu_
      @LuZu_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-sf9gs2pg1b /simulating their lifestyle

  • @StingWe
    @StingWe 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +35459

    Telling a dangerously overweight person not to lose weight because they're "beautiful" is like telling an alcoholic not to stop drinking because they're "fun".

    • @soylatte1288
      @soylatte1288 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1877

      But on the flip side, in studies it shows that bullying plus size people for their weight doesn’t actually “help” them lose weight but in fact increases binge eating due to stress

    • @RS54321
      @RS54321 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +896

      Being dangerously overweight isn't beautiful, though.

    • @mel-ed3yw
      @mel-ed3yw 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +423

      @@RS54321beauty is subjective

    • @Huge_Echman
      @Huge_Echman 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +362

      ​@@soylatte1288 What a wild false dichotomy.

    • @sf8262
      @sf8262 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +198

      @@soylatte1288 at least in part because society is pushing to make it too acceptable to stay unhealthily overweight, and make it frowned upon to mention it. family members and close friends should say something, but not random strangers

  • @BBCEmily
    @BBCEmily 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16380

    Bottom line: don't be rude or mean to people, but also, let's not pretend that being obese is in any way healthy.

    • @Tommy-nh4su
      @Tommy-nh4su 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +795

      And let's not pretend being anorexic is healthy either. Both are bad.

    • @sendcottoncandypls
      @sendcottoncandypls 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +518

      ​@@Tommy-nh4su theres a difference between being just skinny and anorexic and anorexia is literally the most deadly mental illness so like...obviously its not healthy and i dont think anyone here said that

    • @BBCEmily
      @BBCEmily 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +206

      @@Tommy-nh4su Of course both are bad. But this episode is about obesity.

    • @serah3338
      @serah3338 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +114

      okay, let's also not pretend "not being healthy" is why obese people are treated so poorly

    • @BBCEmily
      @BBCEmily 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +119

      @@serah3338 I'm referring to overweight individuals who try to glorify their condition, as if there is nothing wrong or unusual about it. Encouraging others to be obese / normalizing it as if "it's alright to be super overweight" is just as damaging as encouraging people to starve themselves.

  • @bellalulu6249
    @bellalulu6249 หลายเดือนก่อน +3748

    i NEED to see overweight vs gym rats. Especially gym rats who were overweight i feel like it’s a whole new harsh but real perspective

    • @Musa_hi
      @Musa_hi หลายเดือนก่อน +83

      Fr we need one! but at the end I feel like the gym goers will be called "insecure" for changing themselves, I've seen so many of them get absolutely bodyshamed in the comments :/

    • @edwardgaiennie8956
      @edwardgaiennie8956 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Lauren gives me the gym rat vibe. But I don’t think she had a transformation

    • @Musa_hi
      @Musa_hi หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@edwardgaiennie8956 she seems like a strict dietician rather than a gym rat

    • @joebriggs5781
      @joebriggs5781 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@edwardgaiennie8956 it’s fine to be a gym rat but she has an extreme relationship with food. You can be more balanced and still be in great shape.
      She’s free to do what she wants, but lots of healthy people eat junk food here and there.

    • @jadaolson6479
      @jadaolson6479 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Why are gym rats the standard for health? Like what they gotta do w this? Some gym rats have disordered eating in order to maintain their bodies, how is that healthy?

  • @symonewest5449
    @symonewest5449 หลายเดือนก่อน +3339

    "Going to the doctor is a choice" one of the most privileged things I've ever heard

    • @Z1eepy_Rameos
      @Z1eepy_Rameos หลายเดือนก่อน +141

      It is if you are fortunate enough. It also depends on where you live. For example being poor in America in need of medical attention then you have the worst luck. I wouldn’t call having basic rights privileged tho.

    • @Martina-cr9io
      @Martina-cr9io หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      mainly in america

    • @Szaknj
      @Szaknj หลายเดือนก่อน

      DEADASS

    • @MrManagemiracles
      @MrManagemiracles หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      It shouldn't be, what's the point of taxes if there isn't public free /affordable Healthcare

    • @saf1692
      @saf1692 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      That's only if you live somewhere without free healthcare. Here in Canada it is a choice.

  • @mycatsnameisgizmo4677
    @mycatsnameisgizmo4677 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +41404

    Seeing everyone jump on Lauren when she said skinny people don’t eat junk food was refreshing

    • @mra4955
      @mra4955 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3766

      It's not that skinny people don't eat junk food, it's that they don't eat too much junk food

    • @corsariocapitao
      @corsariocapitao 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +450

      ​@@mra4955what is too much junk food?

    • @spicycorndogs4619
      @spicycorndogs4619 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3501

      @@mra4955that’s also not true as a skinny person who eats way too much junk food lol

    • @uchennanwogu2142
      @uchennanwogu2142 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@spicycorndogs4619trust me, search up daily eating of an obese person

    • @mra4955
      @mra4955 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

      @@spicycorndogs4619 ok, must not be true then

  • @vjrdxt
    @vjrdxt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12104

    when Lauren said she doesn't think skinny people go into the junk food aisle I already knew she was an almond mom type of person because that made no sense.

    • @divinedlibra9884
      @divinedlibra9884 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +562

      Fr. I have very fast metabolism. Sometimes i eat so unhealthy but I do not gain any weight

    • @kab9706
      @kab9706 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +380

      I think she worded herself badly, because skinny people do eat junk food and fast food, but thin people eat LESS of it. Smaller portions. A thin person is taking in less calories than a 400lb person.

    • @divinedlibra9884
      @divinedlibra9884 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

      @@kab9706 i agree. There needs to be a balance. But sometimes I do eat more junk food than people that are bigger than me. It’s weird. I think you need to find the balance between junk food and healthy food within your own body that fits your metabolism.

    • @kab9706
      @kab9706 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      @divinedlibra9884 same I eat junk but I don't really binge eat or sneak snacks all night. Obese people sometimes claim they "never" eat or eat healthier than thin people, but those calories come from somewhere

    • @alyssamarie5306
      @alyssamarie5306 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ⁠@@kab9706what do you mean thin vs skinny…

  • @nirvanaluvr19
    @nirvanaluvr19 หลายเดือนก่อน +472

    Madeline saying she’s average weight for women in America just proves that America has such a bad obesity problem 😭

    • @voidackerman2082
      @voidackerman2082 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

      she is wrong

    • @HaileyGraceL
      @HaileyGraceL 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Madeline is delusional! She’s not average size, and her body is not at its “set point”.

    • @meridoughten9425
      @meridoughten9425 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +79

      @@voidackerman2082 yeah the average weight of American women is 170 lbs and, no offense intended, but she clearly weighs more than that...

    • @alla9916
      @alla9916 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Also don't forget that the average height is 5'4". Someone who is shorter weighs less. I am 5'6" and 160 and I feel overweight and uncomfortable in my body. I get tired easily and clothes fit me weird. I felt much better at 135 lbs.

    • @t_rok
      @t_rok 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@meridoughten9425 omg 170 is pretty big

  • @noora78782
    @noora78782 หลายเดือนก่อน +725

    Lauren saying she can't think of a single place that would be a food desert is so incredibly out of touch and ignorant I was shocked.

    • @tranatkikomi6873
      @tranatkikomi6873 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      I know some people just don't have a clue

    • @pimvankempen4218
      @pimvankempen4218 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      I'm confused about this. If there is a place that doesn't have a grocery store in the area but it does have fast food restaurants, what's stopping anyone from starting a grocery store there? It seems like that would be very profitable.

    • @noora78782
      @noora78782 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      @@pimvankempen4218 there are many areas that are more remote or just not major cities where there is not a grocery store for large distances. they’re usually in areas with less densely populated areas, higher amounts of abandoned homes, lower incomes and low education levels. idk what’s stopping ppl from opening one but probably profit margins. it’s more profitable to open a grocery store in a much more densely populated area than one with less. so basically the city planning is discriminatory against these rural populations

    • @down-to-earth-mystery-school
      @down-to-earth-mystery-school 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pimvankempen4218did you understand the amount of funding you must have to buy/rent a property, purchase all the refrigeration, hire all the staff, comply with safety regulations/licensing/inspections. If your town is so small you don’t have a grocery store, chances are you are also too poor to start a complex, expensive business…

    • @ninjustumaster5101
      @ninjustumaster5101 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Imagine being this lazy

  • @millieegirl
    @millieegirl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11619

    why is nobody talking about parker and the "some days i don't eat" casually 😭

    • @stacymiffin3243
      @stacymiffin3243 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1653

      No literally. Like Parker, that’s a disordered way of eating.

    • @ChaseBurns-kc7xg
      @ChaseBurns-kc7xg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      fasting isn't an eating disorder he does have one but choosing to cleanse your pallet once or twice a month or not eating certain things certain days isn't an eating disorder@@stacymiffin3243

    • @jsanchez8855
      @jsanchez8855 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +461

      My boyfriend looks EXACTLY like Parker. Like I had to ask him if that was actually him. But anyway, he also doesn't eat some days but he has IBS and ADHD and many days will just.. forget to eat, or avoid it if his tummy is feeling off. I have to actively remind him to eat.

    • @revekat2053
      @revekat2053 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +130

      @@jsanchez8855he might be on medication that makes him lose his appetite.

    • @NeptuneChildASMR
      @NeptuneChildASMR 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +101

      I went through a few years where I would forget to eat too. It wasn’t purposely. I also have ADHD. On those days I would sometimes be up at 3 am and realize I forgot to eat and then grab something and make myself eat it. Or I’d go a day without eating and wake up and eat cheesecake in the morning 😅
      I have had disordered eating for a lot of my life but during that time it wasn’t purposely avoiding food so I wouldn’t have considered it disordered compared to the times I’ve struggled with actual eating disorders.

  • @Dioliolio
    @Dioliolio 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19622

    Shoutout to Dominick for being a totally reasonable and level headed dude.

    • @rollitupmars
      @rollitupmars 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +260

      He’s like this in all videos a really great guy

    • @TeenageDirtbag8
      @TeenageDirtbag8 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      ​@@rollitupmarsYep agree

    • @masterqui-gonjinn90
      @masterqui-gonjinn90 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      i hope he gets the help he needs

    • @goosmus
      @goosmus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +320

      Aww shucks you guys are so nice 😍😍

    • @Lxrd_Rome
      @Lxrd_Rome 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

      @@goosmusbro why you let her say she’s the average weight for someone

  • @terecitanevarez2905
    @terecitanevarez2905 หลายเดือนก่อน +357

    " I chose not to eat somedays"... friend there's a name for that

    • @flamefusion8963
      @flamefusion8963 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Called having discipline.

    • @terecitanevarez2905
      @terecitanevarez2905 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      @@flamefusion8963 u don't need to "discipline" yourself to stay thin when he alr said he's underweight and wants to gain weight

    • @MaryJaneJones.
      @MaryJaneJones. 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

      It's called fasting. I lost 50 pounds in 8 weeks. Now I'm 120 pounds.

    • @mollybetts3449
      @mollybetts3449 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      @@MaryJaneJones. Fasting is fine intermittently, but your body needs nutrients to survive. You are only supposed to lose 1-3 lbs a week in order to sustain yourself and your metabolism. There's nothing wrong with fasting, but there are significant health risks with long-term fasting

    • @emfrida7917
      @emfrida7917 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MaryJaneJones.what fast did u do?

  • @celinepa8246
    @celinepa8246 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +205

    Noone should be wearing g-strings in public. Period.

    • @AppleOfThineEye
      @AppleOfThineEye 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Nah, people should be able to wear (or not wear) what they please as a matter of autonomy.

    • @cheesecurdinator4010
      @cheesecurdinator4010 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@AppleOfThineEyenah its gross

    • @AppleOfThineEye
      @AppleOfThineEye 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@cheesecurdinator4010 You don't get to restrict someone's rights because you find them distasteful.

    • @cheesecurdinator4010
      @cheesecurdinator4010 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@AppleOfThineEye I do too

    • @unconventionalguitarist9129
      @unconventionalguitarist9129 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yea, I agree with cheese

  • @Welsh-Trials-Enduro
    @Welsh-Trials-Enduro 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +26810

    Props to dominick for being self aware and balanced in his viewpoints

    • @TheSalami
      @TheSalami 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +340

      He’s the only one who mentioned seed oils let’s go

    • @ProfessorBonnie
      @ProfessorBonnie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@TheSalamihi carson

    • @Mary-lr5ok
      @Mary-lr5ok 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

      His point about farms in small towns was kinda wack tho. Those farms are selling their meat and eggs in bulk to nationwide distributors, not to local poor people lol

    • @pog8744
      @pog8744 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +155

      @@Mary-lr5ok He meant that the residents themselves are farmers or at least have their own chickens

    • @goosmus
      @goosmus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      ​@@pog8744 yeah that's correct! I've spent a lot of time on the road and while I obviously haven't visited every city in America, the thing rural cities had that places like LA certainly don't is land! People out there often had a few chickens of their own, and land enough to grow some vegetables, fruits, etc. so many fresh fruit trees, forageables, and more!
      Looking forward myself to getting well out of the city.

  • @chuckbonanni9457
    @chuckbonanni9457 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7795

    Lauren was the embodiment of privileged and completely lacked empathy for others life experiences. I’m 115 pounds and I would never belittle someone how she did.

    • @susse2343
      @susse2343 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +573

      She had the absolutely worst stink bombs of a take omg

    • @vlogsbyrow
      @vlogsbyrow 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +592

      It made me seethe how she tried to mask her arguments as "logic" when they were obviously coming from a place of deep arrogance and bias. She just tried to sound fair 🤦‍♀

    • @meadowsweetstudios444
      @meadowsweetstudios444 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +585

      @@vlogsbyrowshe was saying the truth, though. You don’t need to sugarcoat all time. Could she have been a little more empathetic? Yes. But was she wrong? No.

    • @Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer
      @Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      "Privilege" is a social construct.

    • @Jordan-xg4pn
      @Jordan-xg4pn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +249

      ​@@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamerbaby all language is socially constructed

  • @user-mo1hp4yu2i
    @user-mo1hp4yu2i หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    As a fitness coach who has helped many people gain and lose weight, I want to share my observations. All the slim individuals who told me that they also eat a lot or consume a lot of junk food, when I delve into how much food they actually eat in a day or how many calories they intake, the results are astonishingly similar. In fact, none of the slim people consume a large amount of junk food. Their average daily calorie intake is much lower than that of a normal person, and their appetite is very small. Similarly, individuals who claim they eat very little but are overweight always underestimate their appetite and the calorie content of their food.Excessive obesity and being too thin are both harmful to the body and unattractive. What's truly important is learning to control your own figure, so that when you are dissatisfied with your physique, you can change it as you wish. Controlling weight is never a difficult task; it is merely a skill, similar to riding a bicycle or swimming, that everyone can master as long as you have courage to try and faith to overcome certain difficulties.

    • @The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare
      @The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      yeah they should have said they eat junk food often, not that they eat a lot of junk food.

    • @Afrogirrl
      @Afrogirrl 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Exactly lots of my friends who ppl say they have a ‘fast metabolism’ almost never finish their plate of food or that one fast food meal they eat ‘everyday’ wouldve been their only meal that day because they forgot to eat, or were preoccupied with other things

    • @The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare
      @The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@Afrogirrl you can have a faster metabolism, but only people who use their body a lot will, the more active you are the more you'll burn off. Having more muscle mass makes you burn more calories faster than someone who doesn't

    • @Afrogirrl
      @Afrogirrl 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare yeah i dont disagree at all. But I feel like if you’re a skinnier person seen with a burger you’ll instantly be claimed to have a fast metabolism

    • @The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare
      @The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Afrogirrl yeah, but that's just based on some subconscious learning, which yes, it's false. And also a burger isn't that bad, I think a burger at mcdonalds is like 350 kcal or less and if you eat that as a meal then you eat less than what a meal would be, typically a meal would be 500 calories.

  • @quinn7694
    @quinn7694 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +48

    Dominick seems like such a down to earth kind person, i wish him and his wife n kids well ❤

  • @therandommusicguy4773
    @therandommusicguy4773 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8325

    Dominick was the sort of person we should all be like. He didn't make excuses to suit himself, while also not bringing himself down.

    • @walkingonfiree7609
      @walkingonfiree7609 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      no, but he made judgements on everyone else and assumed they should think the same as him.

    • @RaviPatel-lb7uc
      @RaviPatel-lb7uc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +143

      @@walkingonfiree7609 He judged them after they opened their mouths and excuses came out.

    • @apowell539
      @apowell539 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      He's my spirit animal, I loved his accountability.

    • @dont_harsh_my_mellow
      @dont_harsh_my_mellow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      @@walkingonfiree7609 All that came out of the mouths of the others were sad back stories to justify not putting in the work to manage their weight. Is it harder for some ppl? Yes. Do some ppl have to jump through higher hoops for the same results? Yes. That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t or can’t. It’s a CHOICE, as he mentioned too.
      The more we see a trial or obstacle as an excuse for complacency, the worse off we all will be. Imagine if Jackie Robinson thought how these ladies did. Would he really have gotten to his level of legendary status? No.

    • @randomaccount3119
      @randomaccount3119 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I agree. I hope he lives a great life. He said he wants to be skinny so I hope he gets to his goal. It will benefit him

  • @abi-fs5jt
    @abi-fs5jt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6480

    lauren acting like everyone can go see an endocrinolgist and not worry about medication costs...

    • @familybitestravel4630
      @familybitestravel4630 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +353

      Yep. AND if she has hyperthyroidism... she is more likely to be skinny.

    • @tobiasdelasson8992
      @tobiasdelasson8992 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      just live in europe 👍

    • @sapphire1817
      @sapphire1817 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      That's exactly it. It's complete privilege to bekuege that we all can do that especially as women and don't even get me started on those who are ethic lol

    • @amandathaler1456
      @amandathaler1456 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +175

      She definitely carries the mindset of "I am thin and I am the better for it"

    • @gabby9388
      @gabby9388 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Literally

  • @thestrategiquegyal
    @thestrategiquegyal หลายเดือนก่อน +255

    Did I hear her say “I can’t even think of an area that would have a food desert”….??

    • @goatwoodward
      @goatwoodward หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      yeah, the whole cast was like, "well, I've never personally experienced one so they must not exist." 🙄🙄🙄 Like, I can see that they're not living in poverty by their clothes and the fact they can afford the food that's readily available in their towns.

    • @GettingAGrip208
      @GettingAGrip208 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I really wanna know more about these food deserts, I’m from a small town (population of 26 people) and it’s 15 miles to the nearest food source which is a grocery store. No fast food for 70 miles one direction and 100 miles the other direction. Is there areas where only fast food is around and not a single grocery store within a few mile radius?

    • @dtslimefr9741
      @dtslimefr9741 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GettingAGrip20826 people???

  • @kathysandoval7054
    @kathysandoval7054 หลายเดือนก่อน +111

    We shouldn’t even think of “GETTING THIN” we need to strive for a healthy LIFESTYLE. Build healthy habits, learn to build a healthy plate, do research, exercise, lift, go outdoors! Eat your favorite meals too! Enjoy your “guilty pleasure”. We have so much access to information on the internet.

    • @Afrogirrl
      @Afrogirrl 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      If you want to be healthy then you should strive for all kinds like your body weight. ‘Guilty pleasures’ are guilty for a reason

    • @britwashereee
      @britwashereee 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Afrogirrl No, the number on the scale does not mean healthy or unhealthy in all situations. Correlation does not equal causation. Also, many guilty pleasures are things that people feel guilty about because it is something outside what they view as normal because of society. It does not mean they should actually feel guilty.

    • @Afrogirrl
      @Afrogirrl 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@britwashereee society? People should eat to their hearts extent and it’s okay to have excess adipose tissue, because of society?

    • @britwashereee
      @britwashereee 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Afrogirrl Why are you saying something that I didn’t. That is not what I was saying, read my comment again. I was addressing what was said in the OC.

    • @rico14
      @rico14 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@britwashereeethat’s a bit disingenuous. Most people in America are overweight by +30 pounds on their frame, and telling them that aiming for a smaller weight is harmful. Might actually be counterproductive.

  • @goldengoddess8568
    @goldengoddess8568 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8796

    The way she said “I’m the average weight for women in America, so if you’re looking for the average the closest you’re going to get is me”, the only reason that’s the case is because of the obesity epidemic… That was not always the average weight historically.

    • @destinypointer9069
      @destinypointer9069 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +740

      I agree with that statement. I was shocked when she said that she was the average, because I do not see many individuals who are that heavy. Do not get me wrong, I see overweight individuals, but I mostly see people who are 300lbs or below. Id say size 14-18 is the average for women because that is usually the size that is sold out most of the time.

    • @-danny.
      @-danny. 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +587

      @@destinypointer9069the average woman in the US is like ~5’3 and 170 lbs. So she’s definitely bigger than the average woman

    • @fdscrl6016
      @fdscrl6016 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +275

      wow that is insane as someone from europe... and it is a problem to be that big. being the average doesn't mean its not bad like...

    • @classtilton871
      @classtilton871 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She aint the average woman, shes delusional.
      Sorry if its harsh but thems the facts

    • @viaisabeauty7540
      @viaisabeauty7540 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      @@-danny.omg im literally 5’3 170 lbs 😩😩…crazy I’m that spot on 😂

  • @Aviciiz
    @Aviciiz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6999

    Madeline saying she is the average weight of a woman in America is either a lie or a big disappointment from America.

    • @edwin1845
      @edwin1845 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      70% of the usa is overweight 40% obese

    • @CoolCat847
      @CoolCat847 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1666

      She is not the average weight, I checked the stats because I was so shocked. It's 170.8 lbs (77 kg) and she definitely weighs more than that.

    • @Aviciiz
      @Aviciiz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1084

      @@CoolCat847 Yeah I knew that had to be a lie she probably tells herself to sleep better at night

    • @cngotham4111
      @cngotham4111 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +674

      She be lying to win an argument or shes uninformed

    • @db_2408
      @db_2408 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +606

      honestly, my jaw dropped when she said that

  • @ariannarodriguez3231
    @ariannarodriguez3231 หลายเดือนก่อน +131

    Lauren has literally never met a poor person

  • @inclination7675
    @inclination7675 หลายเดือนก่อน +230

    Not every skinny person is healthy. Yes! But I never see an obese healthy person.

    • @katarinavukosav3511
      @katarinavukosav3511 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      I know 2. My partners parents are both over 100 kg (200 pounds) but they have a nutritious diet, they eat vegetables that they produce on their garden, protein and carbs, ofcourse they eat sweets, fried food or even mcdonals on special ocasions (which I don't thunk is unhealthy if it's not exagarated), but they also have an intense workout with a qualified coach 2 times a week and they have a dog so they take walks most days of the week, in summer they work in the garden on weekends they hike etc. Since they have a coach and try to eat even more of a nutritious diet they lost around 30-40 kilograms between both of them but for a year now they are stuck at the weight a bit over 100 kg. And I am sure they are not the only ones.

    • @fredlloyd5487
      @fredlloyd5487 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Skinny is an aesthetic. MOST skinny people aren’t healthy, if they were they’d be called “fit” or “athletic.”
      Meanwhile most football players are obese, even Travis Kelce.

    • @glencoconut
      @glencoconut หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      but weight can fluctuate not just based on health choices? like taking certain medicines make you gain weight or chemotherapy and to not do so could technically be considered unhealthy

    • @Afrogirrl
      @Afrogirrl 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@glencoconutwhat do you mean

    • @Afrogirrl
      @Afrogirrl 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@katarinavukosav3511you can overeat ‘healthy foods’ and many people eat more than they burn in exercise.

  • @MPLetsTalkAboutIt
    @MPLetsTalkAboutIt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8618

    Dominick is the definition of accountability. He holds himself accountable but also is able to see its up to him whether he wants to change or not

    • @joeyhernandez7908
      @joeyhernandez7908 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      Fax but at times comes out douchey

    • @jennosyde709
      @jennosyde709 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

      Perhaps so, though he likely does not have the background in psychology to understand that some of what he is saying is a bit silly. Even if he wanted to boil it down to willpower (though there are countless systemic factors which contribute towards obesity), willpower is quite literally a limited resource within the body that is regulated by blood glucose levels within the brain. People who struggle with self control are typically placed within environments where they are frequently exposed to high levels of temptation, which reduces glucose levels within the body making it more and more difficult to exert self control with each subsequent temptation. Many people due to financial, legal, or social circumstances cannot simply up and change every component to their lives, which can make it exceptionally difficult to lose weight simply because of this factor alone. People in Europe do not have some innate ability for willpower that Americans do not. The difference is that they have different systemic solutions to address obesity, including walkable cities, less fast food, higher regulation in the food manufacturing process, and better regional wages/work hours that leave people with the time and energy to cook at home.
      I do respect Dominick's willingness to take accountability for his own life, though this subject is far more complicated than being a mere issue of self control.

    • @hannahmacdonald9040
      @hannahmacdonald9040 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      @@jennosyde709 Yeah agreed some of his takes were way to simplistic, weight is a lot more complicated than mere willpower...

    • @McKinley491
      @McKinley491 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it is an issue of self control and willpower and discipline. I'm not naturally skinny, i calorie count every single day and do calories in vs calories out. Some people lack that discipline, simple as that. Take accountability for your own obesity. @@jennosyde709

    • @McKinley491
      @McKinley491 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      there's fast food everywhere, don't eat it maybe? You're not a child. Where I live theres' tonnes of horrible fast food, you just avoid it. Walkable cities? You can still go to the gym or run, btw though, exercise isn't necessary to lose weight. It's all diet (calories in vs calories out). You also don't need to buy sugary HFCS crap in America. And even if you do, it's still calories in vs calories out. You could lose weight on mcdonalds if you wanted.@@jennosyde709

  • @enzogeet2463
    @enzogeet2463 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6205

    As a nutritionist, seeing so many people think obesity isn't a factor leading to health diseases is concerning... It is really sad to know that's how it is across the atlantic, Europeans are usually way more educated on this subject.

    • @trackflix.
      @trackflix. 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +779

      They all know it's detrimental to their health lmao they just won't accept it

    • @whatoh3407
      @whatoh3407 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +408

      These girls are coping HARD!!

    • @logicallychaotic9139
      @logicallychaotic9139 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      become a DIETITIAN then come back…

    • @jato2942
      @jato2942 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Another reason why Europeans are superior

    • @Momo-po5tn
      @Momo-po5tn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Americans have brainwashed themselves

  • @aliakapoor
    @aliakapoor หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    I really like the guy with glasses and red shorts. He knows that it's not black and white but grey. And the girl in the red dress is what my eating disorder sounds like.

    • @janatomlin1296
      @janatomlin1296 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Yes!! She gives off privileged to another degree

    • @X11CHASE
      @X11CHASE 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You people are soft, can’t handle when someone doesn’t coddle you when telling the truth. The truth isn’t enough, you wanna be babied along the way… literally every out of shape person on these episodes acts like they did what it took to be fit but it just magically didn’t work for them

  • @bayamonrican
    @bayamonrican 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Madeline saying she is the size of the average American woman was incredibly disturbing. If this is how the average American woman looks like then we 100% have an obesity problem.

    • @gacusrunner2004
      @gacusrunner2004 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      That's the same thing I wrote a second ago 😂 , average is 170 pounds she easily weights 300 pounds

  • @pxachholic
    @pxachholic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8861

    Dominic seems very smart! He thinks very logically and doesn't victimize himself. I wish him a long and healthy life😁

    • @DoyinVoice
      @DoyinVoice 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

      Very smart and great communicator

    • @kab9706
      @kab9706 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

      Agreed, he's very smart and seems sweet. I like that he takes accountability

    • @JM-yn8mb
      @JM-yn8mb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      You better keep wishing LOL

    • @simba00784
      @simba00784 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      He a guy

    • @TheGreatPapyrusSpaghetti2697
      @TheGreatPapyrusSpaghetti2697 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fr

  • @rlrcia
    @rlrcia 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4577

    Being healthy is a choice.

    • @thecoolestcat5078
      @thecoolestcat5078 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +179

      no

    • @nukahina384
      @nukahina384 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +296

      @@thecoolestcat5078 it is tho

    • @SlimClipper
      @SlimClipper 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +356

      Fact. Obviously you can get unlucky, but for the most part it’s a choice.

    • @z3onix
      @z3onix 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +186

      Depends on the situation

    • @saltchipper-7147
      @saltchipper-7147 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

      Yes, and some people are healthy at higher weights

  • @MammothMorals
    @MammothMorals หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    The issue with minimum wage jobs is not that those people can't afford to eat healthy. Its that minimum wage jobs often are the most time consuming. They don't have the tike to cook a healthy meal.
    McDonald's isn't cheaper than rice and beans. But rice and beans takes longer to prep.

    • @sunshinecherries
      @sunshinecherries 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I think McD's is more expensive per unit meal compared to groceries. I live in Toronto and $25 of fast food would feed me for 2-3 meals. But $3 rice + $10 veggies + $12 meat will feed me for 6-7 meals. I spend about $50-$60 on groceries per week and cook most of my meals.
      Going back to what you mentioned about time - my instant pot and slow cooker have been huge time savers for me 😅 just toss stuff in and let it do its thing

    • @Spijen
      @Spijen 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sunshinecherries i get the whole "cheaper in the long run to buy groceries" thing, but sometimes people dont realize that we dont have the $50 to spend in the first place. Luckily im finally able to buy groceries, but for a long time i only had $50/week and that was for literally everything-- food, toiletries, etc. Now i always buy whats gonna save money i the long run, but there were so many times where i had to spend my $15 on some super cheap fast food and had to make it stretch for days

    • @dannygonxalez9011
      @dannygonxalez9011 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      mcdonald’s has gotten so expensive, i save so much more money when i cook at home and spend an hour or so meal prepping.

    • @MammothMorals
      @MammothMorals 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Spijen again $15 will get you more out of groceries if you buy correctly than it would fast food.

    • @sunshinecherries
      @sunshinecherries 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MammothMorals agreed. $15 will MAYBE get you 4 items from a super value menu. Generally, food is more expensive the more processed it is. I just buy "raw" groceries and cook food myself 😁

  • @Vilik-nm7ry
    @Vilik-nm7ry 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Saying she's the average weight is WILD, it's just not true.

    • @LINA-je9my
      @LINA-je9my 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well historically it's not but nowadays it is actually the average weight.

    • @goldantube6525
      @goldantube6525 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@LINA-je9my That is not average even by today's standards

    • @LINA-je9my
      @LINA-je9my 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@goldantube6525 ok

    • @LINA-je9my
      @LINA-je9my 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@goldantube6525 ok

    • @LINA-je9my
      @LINA-je9my 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@goldantube6525 ok.

  • @mikhaylasellars2362
    @mikhaylasellars2362 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1746

    saying skinny people don’t eat junk food is insane

    • @RichardTavilla
      @RichardTavilla 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      I don’t think you realize though that, even though they do, it’s the amount of it. Overweight people are extreme liars about how much they actually eat. They lie to themselves. Yes skinny people might have a cupcake once in a while but they don’t have three every day.

    • @sierra94iolana
      @sierra94iolana 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      @@RichardTavillaas someone who is definitely considered skinny…I often eat a whole pint of ice cream and carb-centered meals on a daily basis. Our natural metabolism is a big determinant of our set weights.

    • @Mike-hk8lx
      @Mike-hk8lx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@sierra94iolana of course and age comes into play as well. Amount of junk and booze and I consumed in my 20s.

    • @user-un7yy3rh6h
      @user-un7yy3rh6h 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@RichardTavillaa cupcake once in a while? 😂😂😂

    • @RichardTavilla
      @RichardTavilla 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-un7yy3rh6h she eats a case a day

  • @Shirx.ley7
    @Shirx.ley7 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2880

    It’s a huge problem that people don’t think obesity is unhealthy. Has nothing to do with being beautiful. Everything to do with dying early for no reason.

    • @9395gb
      @9395gb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +206

      Thank you. They are focused on the aesthetics of weight and beauty. It should not be about that.
      It's about health...high blood pressure, diabetes, heart attack, joint problems, breathing issues, stroke and earlier death. This can be said for being underweight as well.
      But the lack of acknowledgement of the weight being uncomfortable and impeding their ability to live a happier and long life.

    • @leftunsupervised
      @leftunsupervised 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +108

      This is based on my experience, so caveat there, but I've never met an obese person who thought that their obesity was healthy or even pleasant. It's very uncomfortable physically. I've met obese people who don't want to be judged as less healthy in their habits than skinny people and treated differently as a person based on their weight alone. Which, to me, is fair. I know loads of perfectly thin people with terrible eating habits who never work out. And many overweight people who eat healthy and exercise. 🤷

    • @Shirx.ley7
      @Shirx.ley7 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

      @@leftunsupervised FYI I am an obese person. I never once have claimed to be healthy, as the people in the video are, nor do I think it’s ok. It’s a huge problem in America. I’ve been on a journey to get healthy and have lost 100 pounds in the last year because of my own personal choices. Everything comes down to choices. I’m still obese and I workout 5 days a week. At the core, nobody is naturally obese and I agree that we should all be treated equally but also obesity is a huge problem and only made worse by corporate greed and the overconsumption and gluttony taught in our society

    • @leftunsupervised
      @leftunsupervised 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      @@Shirx.ley7 Congratulations! That's incredible! Is obesity healthy? No. Do many obese people have healthy habits equal to or exceeding the habits of loads of thin people? Yes. I know them personally. They're putting in the work like you, but they aren't getting the results like you. They have other conditions and health factors than you don't seem to have. So, GREAT! That's awesome! But know that your experience isn't universal, so you can't then stand up and say oh, well, it's always a choice.
      I think the people in the video, esp. Cambria, were saying that you can't assume she's just a person with no self-control based on looking at her. She has healthy habits, she just also has lupus and was given medication that made her gain weight. That wasn't her choice. She doesn't have the same scenario as you, nor should people assume that she does.

    • @Shirx.ley7
      @Shirx.ley7 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      @@leftunsupervised I understand where you’re coming from but I also am studying nutrition and exercise science and there’s no health condition that prevents weight loss by caloric deficit. It is how our bodies are fundamentally wired. Being slightly overweight may not be a choice but being obese is. Some may have to work harder but science is a fact. Understanding your own body and adjusting to your own needs is what it takes if you want to be healthy. There’s no one size fits all, but all should make every effort to be healthy. Nobody’s body is at a 300 pound set point, that’s not how it works chemically. Even with hormonal syndromes and issues, there are choices you can make to be at a healthy weight, I’ve seen it plenty of times and have my own experiences with physical limitations. There’s truly no valid excuse to being obese other than you just don’t want to put in the work, which I understand but let’s be honest about it. If someone is happy with their body then I’m happy for them, but I’m not going to agree that some people are healthy and obese and some people just can’t lose weight when it’s just simply not true.

  • @yukslime8468
    @yukslime8468 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    “Your body like to be at certain weights” 😂😂😂 that an insane statement

    • @DealthTheGreat
      @DealthTheGreat 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      It’s true

    • @HaileyGraceL
      @HaileyGraceL 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Especially when she’s obese! Lol

    • @yukslime8468
      @yukslime8468 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DealthTheGreat 😭

    • @alla9916
      @alla9916 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's true though. I am 5'6" and when I went under 120 I felt dizzy and weak. I feel my best at 136lbs

    • @justinvargas8517
      @justinvargas8517 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@alla9916facts, as a 5’8” male
      At 150 pounds I was lethargic and could not lift weight
      At 170 I am much stronger and I feel 10x better. I also look much better

  • @harrisonneil8444
    @harrisonneil8444 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Crazy...Why are most the women on the panel making up reasons/excuses on why they are unable to eat healthy, and the only overweight guy on the panel is actually taking accountability on poor eating habits/choices

  • @JKDC97
    @JKDC97 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5165

    Is anyone checking on Parker? He started the discussion saying that being skinny is a choice because there are some days that he chooses not to eat to later admitting that he is anorexic. That's an eating disorder and just as unhealthy as overeating and being obese. (Also, its important to point out that men's mental health, especially with regard to eating disorders, is SO overlooked and not acknowledged enough)

    • @isa640
      @isa640 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +153

      Why do we need to check on him. He said himself it's a "choice."

    • @aaronaldo14
      @aaronaldo14 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +176

      He’s aware that he is severely underweight

    • @prayed249
      @prayed249 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      def not as unhealthy as overeating or being obese but he should find some kind of help so he can be at a healthy weight

    • @rainnnnnnn
      @rainnnnnnn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +104

      Is anyone checking on overweight people in this video?

    • @annemmie
      @annemmie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +135

      @@isa640well having an ed is never a choice

  • @gusudeani6071
    @gusudeani6071 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3939

    I feel like Lauren views being skinny through her own personal lens rather than objectively. The fact she straight faced said skinny people don’t eat junk food is BAFFLING. I’m 118lbs(53kg) and during my early twenties I was eating cake for breakfast some days. I would’ve loved a little bit more back and forth and challenge to Lauren’s claims.

    • @uchennanwogu2142
      @uchennanwogu2142 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      how many calories did you consume? daily

    • @popkick8350
      @popkick8350 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +288

      @@uchennanwogu2142The point wasn’t really about how much cake is eaten or not. It was about eating cake at all since Lauren made the claim skinny people don’t eat junk.

    • @gibbono
      @gibbono 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@popkick8350 I’d like to think that Lauren was referring to the fact that skinny people don’t eat much calorie wise which is why she said they don’t eat much junk food either. Metabolism can play a big part but at the end of the day if you’re still skinny even after eating “a lot” then you’re not actually eating that many calories/junk food in this case.

    • @curryascocarrasco4829
      @curryascocarrasco4829 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I work out because it's fun and it allows me to eat more!

    • @chitownjaxxk7644
      @chitownjaxxk7644 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@gibbonobut that’s not true , she should speak for herself because that’s false .

  • @NotTouchingGrassEver
    @NotTouchingGrassEver หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Dominic is a well knowledged person who is logical, and he is able to communicate well to others without belitting them by being self-aware

    • @RG_Eph
      @RG_Eph 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He seems very nice but he is not informed about seed oils. There is so much false information about seed oils being spread

  • @tiapadilla7722
    @tiapadilla7722 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

    lauren needs a reality check, ed help, and behavioral therapy

    • @rok9587
      @rok9587 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Well, if you can't handle facts, then it's you who needs therapy

    • @annaku_lickalicious
      @annaku_lickalicious 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      actually lauren is brave to say things most slim people don't say on camera, but think in their head. because no one wants to be the 'mean' person.

  • @keirahleesha486
    @keirahleesha486 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5403

    I laughed so hard when Lauren said “Skinny people” don’t go to the junk food aisle 😂😂 Just because someone is skinny doesn’t mean they are healthy ✌🏽

    • @sweet3488
      @sweet3488 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +207

      Lol yea they say junk food is horrible but people like Parker thinks it’s fine to not eat for entire days

    • @leftunsupervised
      @leftunsupervised 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +160

      @@sweet3488 And Lauren was really vibing with that grapes and lettuce only diet 😂 Ah yes, fiber and fructose bombs. So healthy.

    • @avalonstout1490
      @avalonstout1490 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      @@leftunsupervisedshe literally said the exact opposite. She was actually anti dieting

    • @britterthecritter4531
      @britterthecritter4531 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      Facts, I’ve been skinny my whole life and got high cholesterol 💀💀

    • @leftunsupervised
      @leftunsupervised 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@AlesBejr-jk2py Thank you. I don't know why people keep ignoring what words mean in favor of how they are feeling about a word at the time they are typing it.

  • @arabellamoore2082
    @arabellamoore2082 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2647

    are we all just gonna ignore that Parker is clearly struggling with an eating disorder....

    • @eleriamirayse6859
      @eleriamirayse6859 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +223

      Not just him

    • @zxr250
      @zxr250 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      I've seen several comments talking about it - so people aren't ignoring it.

    • @AlisonMendez-bx8tp
      @AlisonMendez-bx8tp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +332

      Multiple ppl in this video have an eating disorder

    • @oreochocolate_lavacake9960
      @oreochocolate_lavacake9960 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +169

      I think he's aware of it as he did mention he is underweight so I hope he's geting the help he needs.

    • @oreochocolate_lavacake9960
      @oreochocolate_lavacake9960 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@eleriamirayse6859 We're not talking about other people we're talking about Parker.

  • @darionmartin7618
    @darionmartin7618 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The taller larger gentleman is living in reality and speaks eloquently about it. S tier

  • @MrOKECBON
    @MrOKECBON 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The rich corporations didn't force you to walk in McDonald. You did! Your responsibility

  • @NicoleReign
    @NicoleReign 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3018

    Lauren is so blind to her privilege, it’s tragic. In the US, no, everyone doesn’t have the choice to walk into a doctor’s office (which is hundreds of dollars….) and get checked. Crazy that she made that suggestion

    • @jaynez9027
      @jaynez9027 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +389

      Agree. Her responses were pretty out of touch.

    • @Eroshenkova
      @Eroshenkova 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

      If you realy care about yourself you will get the money for your health.
      Btw in Russia it's free.

    • @cd3xp
      @cd3xp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      plus not everyone lives close to a grocery store !

    • @sznlaura
      @sznlaura 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

      @@Eroshenkovain america average people can’t afford it. Have family ther but am from europe and its really nit accesible to many people there bc like for some its either paying for food and school and rent or doctor

    • @user-he2ou2ex2f
      @user-he2ou2ex2f 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +156

      @@jaynez9027 nah, she keeps it real. No wonder she can manage her own weight.
      We’re just a society that enables self victimisation. No accountability.

  • @Allhailpablo
    @Allhailpablo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4494

    Dominick was definitely the voice of reason throughout this conversation. So refreshing to see someone who understands a problem and the other side's points and is able to logically and empathetically produce his

    • @Claire-ux2qu
      @Claire-ux2qu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      except when they were talking about food deserts

    • @SmallSnailMarie
      @SmallSnailMarie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I appreciate how during diet culture discussion he asked for the other guys definition rather than just arguing with him without knowing what he considered to be "diet culture". It really shows that he is a cognitive thinker and he is trying very hard to consider everyone's background for their opinions.

  • @fthidebessai3523
    @fthidebessai3523 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    shame doesn’t work as a motivator. people can only change through love.

    • @sidcrook-hutsler9155
      @sidcrook-hutsler9155 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I disagree. We pushed love and now the majority think being obese is beautiful and healthy

    • @DaniBee2900
      @DaniBee2900 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sidcrook-hutsler9155ignorant

    • @HaileyGraceL
      @HaileyGraceL 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My mom pointed out I gained a lot of weight, looked unhealthy and unlike myself when I was 30. I lost that weight FAST.

  • @denziboi4063
    @denziboi4063 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    Now do a reunion in 15 years and see whos still alive

    • @Cierra_yo
      @Cierra_yo หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      lol fax

    • @IdislikeTechnology
      @IdislikeTechnology หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Probs not Lauren, with all that judgemental bias at the ready 😅

  • @elik8448
    @elik8448 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4871

    Lauren 100% has the same vibes as a mom who very much causes all her kids to have eating disorders and control issues. I really valued Dominik's self awareness though, he not only acknowledged that being skinny can also be unhealthy and that he himself has unhealthy eating habits but also showed a lot of empathy towards others while they were speaking about their experience.

    • @GoldenGoosey26
      @GoldenGoosey26 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +182

      Or or or, she teaches her kids healthy eating habits

    • @DajaMoonSage
      @DajaMoonSage 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GoldenGoosey26 Doubt it...she said she was for 'body shamming' someone into trying to get healthy. This is how self-image issues start, which can then lead to eating disorders. Body Shamming someone generally does not work. If anything, it can push more mental health issues.

    • @batswanamodipane7774
      @batswanamodipane7774 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      true, I like how he actually admitted that his perspective has changed, which is the whole point of these videos I think

    • @brieonymous
      @brieonymous 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

      How do you figure? I see her as the voice of reason. Obesity is not healthy, period. She was also not shying away from the FACT that obesity is not visually appealing to anyone save for people with fetishes.

    • @bekind9827
      @bekind9827 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      @@GoldenGoosey26 My mother who is somewhat similar to Lauren and it has made me fairly unhealthy... Like I will feel like when she is not around I just need to stuff my mouth with bad food because its the only time when I dont have to worry about her judgement. I will say, to some extent the things she says make a lot of sense however she takes it a bit to far and struggles to understand that living a healthy lifestyle is not a one size fits all thing.

  • @YTho-ev1ej
    @YTho-ev1ej 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4661

    Being skinny doesn’t mean your healthy but being obese means you are unhealthy. I think parents have a duty to make sure their kids are healthy, both mentally and physically (and being overweight pertains to both)

    • @duels
      @duels 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +264

      ​@@KaitlinSkilton not very often you can say its not food related. people will always come up with excuses

    • @duels
      @duels 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +151

      @@KaitlinSkilton look at other countries, clearly something is going on that’s severely unproportionate. not just conditions as it’s made out to be

    • @lilithjones5455
      @lilithjones5455 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +125

      @@KaitlinSkiltonyes and this apparently uncommon thing seems to affect mostly Americans it seems. Definitely not the fact the USA is known for junk foods high in sugar and with less care about what chemicals go in than most other countries

    • @TheAmazingHoho576
      @TheAmazingHoho576 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      And emotionally!

    • @tartantulakid666
      @tartantulakid666 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      @@KaitlinSkilton it's a bit of a stereotype that the woman always looks for the exception and not the rule. Are we really going to pretend that 60% of the adult US population all have genetic diseases?

  • @ellabella803
    @ellabella803 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    10:59 there is no such thing as a fatphobic bias. If youre overweight and obese, you WILL get sicker easily. This is from personal experience, please just be so for real.

  • @jaidyn732
    @jaidyn732 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    the girl in the red dress (lauren i think?) is incredibly privileged to think everyone is able to live the same way she is

    • @X11CHASE
      @X11CHASE 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And you’re a moron if you think it requires privilege to be in shape 🤣

    • @dannygonxalez9011
      @dannygonxalez9011 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      she seems uneducated and the wrong person to have on the “skinny” team

  • @isaiahharris7046
    @isaiahharris7046 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5386

    They should do another episode to where it's the exact same prompt but this time it's nothing but doctors debating. That would be interesting

    • @christinasanderford5849
      @christinasanderford5849 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      ooohhh yeah

    • @FKDame
      @FKDame 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +483

      Yeah except they’re not going to be debating because it’s not really a debate

    • @isaiahharris7046
      @isaiahharris7046 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      @FKDame yes they would there's so many different opinions among various different doctors.

    • @elianavictor108
      @elianavictor108 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +173

      There would most likely not be a debate. Science shows that it is not healthy for someone to be overweight. In terms of beauty or ability to be a happy person, that is a different discussion, but most likely all doctors will agree from a health standpoint.

    • @chouyi7591
      @chouyi7591 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

      itd be hard to find a doctor that’s pro obesity

  • @laurynelizz__
    @laurynelizz__ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4109

    This discussion needed more people at healthy weights and with healthy relationships with food. Even the skinny people exhibit a lot of disordered behaviors from what I can tell, based on what they’ve told us

    • @TheDevastator619
      @TheDevastator619 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +703

      When Parker openly said he “chooses” not to eat some days, it screamed depravation to me. Sure there are days when you’re not hungry and your body doesn’t prompt to eat, but if you’re actively making the choice to suppress when your body is telling you you’re hungry is harmful.

    • @rosee8140
      @rosee8140 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +163

      I kinda wanna see the opposite, morbidly obese vs diagnosed anorexic.

    • @weirdflex8158
      @weirdflex8158 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

      ​@@TheDevastator619not necessarily no. Fasting is great for lots of people

    • @Idkchangethislater
      @Idkchangethislater 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +201

      Exactly both sides seemed kinda…Struggling…

    • @Formerlywendytestaburger1621
      @Formerlywendytestaburger1621 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm pretty sure he meant that his appetite is so low that he wouldn't eat because he talked about it as an unhealthy thing@@TheDevastator619

  • @biagalves6553
    @biagalves6553 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish I could participate on this discussion, love talking about it and meeting people that know how to be polite when expressing their opinions is so great

  • @luyandalamula9009
    @luyandalamula9009 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I love how it starts off with the disagreers for the first prompt explaining the nuances around her weight and the skinny girl continues to list things that may be out of your control as a choice. @3:57

  • @isabellariner9733
    @isabellariner9733 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2379

    Lauren was unbearable, her viewpoints honestly disgusted me and were extremely hurtful. I’m not even overweight but she exemplifies why eating disorders are such a problem

    • @jonathanwalker3135
      @jonathanwalker3135 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +335

      She spoke nothing but facts...

    • @faithfrancisco9829
      @faithfrancisco9829 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      Yes I couldn’t agree more

    • @wiz7650
      @wiz7650 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +217

      I feel like her points were often valid. I feel though that some of her points were innapropriate to the prompt or the course the conversation was going in.

    • @2bagbreezo
      @2bagbreezo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +204

      I think she says what people typically DONT want to hear , doesn’t make it horrible. It’s just an opinion you’re not a kin to, which is why we need these debates. She even went as far as to be respectful I’m not trying to hurt others feelings when she visibly seen them get frustrated

    • @MsLt1982
      @MsLt1982 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

      @@wiz7650right, it was like she had points she was planning to bring up ahead of time and couldn’t understand the conversation otherwise. Talking and not listening.

  • @lauranottuna
    @lauranottuna 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3841

    I dont agree with everything said, but I am so glad about how relaxed the conversation was. Not much shaming, no screaming, no talking over each other.

    • @Wanderlust06705
      @Wanderlust06705 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

      Same. After watching the trans debate this was really refreshing.

    • @rita8274
      @rita8274 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      Even when they obviously physically disagreed with someone talking, they weren't taking it to the next level by being unnecessarily rude. Nice to see the episodes coming back to actual discussions instead of just screaming matches.

    • @mon3yw4y
      @mon3yw4y 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      They were talking over each other sometimes, perhaps not significantly enough to change the atmosphere of the conversation.

    • @jayart7928
      @jayart7928 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The fats should be shamed.

    • @drawingdoritu
      @drawingdoritu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@jayart7928i hope this is a joke

  • @vesuvius2444
    @vesuvius2444 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I once heard someone who had a drug addiction and a food addiction. Say that the food addiction was way worse because we have to eat everyday while the drugs he took weren't something he had to do. So the over eating temptation is always there for him every time he ate.
    People can definitely change their lot in life but it's definitely not an easy thing for certain people to overcome. It's much easier to never be obese and maintain that.
    In some ways it's a choice, in other ways, it isn't.

  • @alyssa9472
    @alyssa9472 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    My jaw dropped at people questioning the reality of food deserts…I understand when people just haven’t learned about or experienced them before but that doesn’t mean they aren’t real

    • @Tamie2134
      @Tamie2134 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Their mind immediately went to rural areas but urban areas are typically food desserts I believe. There will be so many fast food and corner stores within walking distance of their homes but no grocery stores.

  • @lisac6905
    @lisac6905 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2974

    This should be renamed Anorexia vs Binge Eating Disorder. In the first 5 minutes that one guy said he chooses to go without food some days. Literally every person on this panel has said something that relates to disordered eating. Jubilee needs to vet their speakers better because both sides are just pushing an unhealthy lifestyle.

    • @user-he2ou2ex2f
      @user-he2ou2ex2f 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +228

      Yh 100%. Jubilee just loves to get outliers in the discussion. While still interesting takes away from what the debate should’ve been.

    • @FeelMyRhythm2U
      @FeelMyRhythm2U 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Exactly.

    • @user-sf9gs2pg1b
      @user-sf9gs2pg1b 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

      Yeah, I thought that was incredibly strange. Once I saw the skinny guy I immediately thought he had an eating disorder or something.

    • @rosee8140
      @rosee8140 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +150

      The skinny side is definitely not 'anorexic', having disordered eating and being skinny is not the same as anorexia.

    • @trilogy135
      @trilogy135 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yup

  • @bibbo3167
    @bibbo3167 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3159

    This was one of the most genuinely productive episodes they’ve had in a while-no arguing, yelling, passive aggression etc

    • @ymoonysun9130
      @ymoonysun9130 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

      Productive for me is when the debate has quality and brings a logical fresh light to the subjet: but this episode was one of the most unproductive ones since no facts, no arguments structure, no science was brought, only weak opinions based on emotions ://

    • @bibbo3167
      @bibbo3167 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      @@ymoonysun9130 baby steps baby steps lol

    • @LadyNellie
      @LadyNellie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ymoonysun9130huh?

    • @BabyJellyfish
      @BabyJellyfish 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      None of this was productive. Not shouting at each other is the barest of. Minimums

    • @ShadowJinxXOX
      @ShadowJinxXOX 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      ⁠@@ymoonysun9130I disagree, an argument doesn’t need a statistic attached to it if it can still provide sound reasoning to its basis. And there was a decent amount of times that deductive reasoning was applied from both sides, maybe not always perfectly, but fair points were discussed

  • @tonymaximilian3551
    @tonymaximilian3551 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I noticed that obese people tend to not try to lose weight if their doctor has said they dont have any major risks at the moment. But what they dont realize is that those things take time. They might be "healthy" from a scientific pov, but it will 100% catch up to them if they keep living that same lifestyle. Bad habits inevitably lead to bad outcomes, not matter how long it takes.

  • @olliej.2603
    @olliej.2603 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    If you hate yourself while trying to lose weight then you’re most likely not going to either lose the weight or keep the weight off. Loving yourself through the whole process will not only grow you physically but mentally and emotionally. ❤

  • @DearAliya
    @DearAliya 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2736

    I hope Dominick see's all of the support from the comments on this video and always feels motivated to achieve his personal health goals so that he can have the future he wishes for - he deserves it!

  • @koraliee
    @koraliee 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2611

    Dominick seems like a great guy and came off as very intelligent and level-headed. Props to him.

  • @oseki7168
    @oseki7168 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Every point Lauren made was baffling. I am 5"5 and have been consistently 95-105 lbs since I hit that height. I eat over 3k calories a day and don't work out.... There are *so* many factors that go into weight. I hope she never has children with this mindset, because it will end it disaster.

    • @metoo3342
      @metoo3342 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You dont have to workout to burn more calories. You can burn extra just by simply doing normal daily activies.

  • @JessicaBlaze89
    @JessicaBlaze89 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I am 35 standing 5'3 weighing 125. I've always been petite. I've struggled w gaining weight my entire life. When I started strength training, weight training, and learning about eating more calories than my body outputs with high metabolism. I've managed to gain 8 pounds with adding in more protein; peanut butter, eggs, milk, and protein shakes have done wonders❤️

  • @veronicawinja3682
    @veronicawinja3682 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3581

    As an African who moved to America, food and the food system has been one of the biggest challenges that I have experienced. It's a system that's not for the people at all! and it's even worse for the poor e.g. homeless people. The food quantities are abnormal, vegetables are way more expensive than junk food, there's a lot of variety of junk food. Food here is more for pleasure than for nutritional value.

    • @Summer-ke5es
      @Summer-ke5es 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +154

      Agree. After moving to the US I gained so much weight. And the creziest thing is that I'm gaining weight from simple stuff like potatoes, for example. It doesn't matter if I boil them or grill I still gaining weight. Back home I could it potatoes as much as I want and never gained even one pound.

    • @itsnotif.itswhen
      @itsnotif.itswhen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +111

      @@Summer-ke5essame with meat quality. I suspect the way they raise farm animals here is different that contributes to the obesity epidemic.

    • @justme.11
      @justme.11 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Should be the number 1 comment.

    • @selinacadisch8449
      @selinacadisch8449 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +113

      its so crazy cuz for example in Switzerland,which is where i live, most American foods aren‘t even allowed bc of how much chemical and just generally unhealthy stuff is in them.

    • @Oxymera
      @Oxymera 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

      I always hear about immigrants eating the same diet they had from their home country and still gaining weight. There must be something in our food that causes this

  • @dewis9997
    @dewis9997 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3184

    The plus-size community needs more people like Dominic to speak up because if a skinny person says what he said, it doesn't come off the same/ some might feel it's fatphobia, but if he says it, it's more accepted.

    • @jaysellers011
      @jaysellers011 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      It's sad that the Western society is like that. I think humans with different backgrounds should all have a voice

    • @jeffisjeff5511
      @jeffisjeff5511 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Are you sure he’s plus sized? Because most plus sized people are healthy. Since plus sized is just a bigger build instead of overweight or obese

    • @gur262
      @gur262 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

      ​​@@jeffisjeff5511😂😂😂no plus sized is obesity, in almost every example of it

    • @jeffisjeff5511
      @jeffisjeff5511 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@gur262 Plus sized isn’t obesity. They both are different things. Please do research because it’s very bad to spread misinformation. Many plus sized people are healthy. They just have bigger bodies which would be healthy for them. Again plus sized and obesity are completely different. Don’t mesh them together.

    • @Winkle-Dinkle
      @Winkle-Dinkle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      @@jeffisjeff5511I’m pretty sure plus sized is simply an umbrella term that refers to anyone above the average weight across a population. This can include oversight, obese, or morbidly obese. At least that is what the trustworthy sources purport.

  • @TheLostSheep578
    @TheLostSheep578 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It is not about being skinny or obese. Both are unhealthy in their own ways. It is about being healthy. Your weight should correspond with your height and vice versa.

    • @tonyisnotdead
      @tonyisnotdead หลายเดือนก่อน

      what about being skinny alone is unhealthy?

  • @sunshinecherries
    @sunshinecherries 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    dominick is so well-spoken. i hope he gets the resources he needs to improve his life for his own sake as well as for his family :)

  • @oluchi8910
    @oluchi8910 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2477

    Now this is a DISCUSSION! It doesn’t matter what side you’re on, people sitting down with opposing views and still being able to have a civil adult conversation while not cutting each other off and really LISTENING to all sides even if they don’t agree is super underrated

    • @oponomo
      @oponomo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      funny thing is: this wasn't 2 opposite views, it was 2 opposite body types. Most of them have similar views which makes this a very weird jubilee versus.

    • @tartantulakid666
      @tartantulakid666 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      There is only one correct side in this discussion. Being obese shouldn't be normalised and shouldn't be accepted. All I heard from the obese people were lies about their eating habits and lies about how great they feel. When you start to see their behaviour from the addiction perspective, their lying and deceit makes a lot more sense.

    • @Piinnkbunnii
      @Piinnkbunnii 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol my name twin! Are you Nigerian or Nigerian American?

    • @amyswallow742
      @amyswallow742 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i feel like this is one of the healthiest jubilee discussions i've seen and that's sad

    • @Brooklynnspov
      @Brooklynnspov 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tartantulakid666then your lying about liking to be skinny

  • @lovedlavender3266
    @lovedlavender3266 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2808

    I'd love it if Jubilee made a common ground or spectrum videos about bullying, such as people who were bullied and even former bullies who stopped bullying.

    • @justhumanrampai4882
      @justhumanrampai4882 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

      Ohh, I’d watch this. I’d like to hear some of the thought processes

    • @lainaaa9075
      @lainaaa9075 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      YESSSSSA

    • @shackles5850
      @shackles5850 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      yes

    • @sowhat1674
      @sowhat1674 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      Usually, bullies are not aware that they are bullies.

    • @user-ss4ek3zo4d
      @user-ss4ek3zo4d 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      yeah, but how would you define that, because most bullies were bullied at home or by other people, most of the so-called victims of bullies have been bullies themselves, I feel like everyone on earth has been both a bully and the victim of a bully at some point

  • @kmik4466
    @kmik4466 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    People in all walks of life make excuses. Never underestimate humans ability to deflect responsibility for the choices they make.

  • @angelachen4760
    @angelachen4760 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Thank you Lauren for being honest.

  • @socialmimicry
    @socialmimicry 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1235

    I really don't think Madeline is considered average size as she claims.

    • @Lagiacrus1996
      @Lagiacrus1996 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

      Yeah like a quick google shows its about 170lbs. I don't think she's 170...

    • @rchilla5860
      @rchilla5860 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +195

      I almost spat out my damn water when she said she was the average.

    • @brxndan222
      @brxndan222 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

      i had to pause the video and just stare at disbelief in what she said

    • @hayleywhelan3243
      @hayleywhelan3243 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Maybe it's because she's so top heavy that can make you look so much bigger

    • @lilycakes49
      @lilycakes49 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Height contributes to how weight looks on someone. She's pretty short

  • @TheBluntDoctor
    @TheBluntDoctor 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +586

    “Skinny people don’t go into snack isles “ GIRL WHAT 😭😭😭

    • @EC-dz3fb
      @EC-dz3fb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lauren is a horrible, horrible person.

    • @raevix4766
      @raevix4766 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      They go to it but just take less

    • @itzasweater9621
      @itzasweater9621 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Skinny adults, especially as they age, do avoid a lot of junk.

    • @ashlynnhillegas3960
      @ashlynnhillegas3960 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Them skinny people be eating the mosssssttt

    • @ethanhawkins3052
      @ethanhawkins3052 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@ashlynnhillegas3960total calorie intake is lower for skinny people

  • @niqua19ful
    @niqua19ful หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I'm a smaller women , and I can eat healthy and I can also eat whatever I want and maintain an acceptable weight. So every one bodies are completely different.

  • @irishcoco725
    @irishcoco725 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Red dress is obsessed with thinness equating to morally better. Seems like she is looking for a gold star for being thin.

  • @taylorstephensen-beal5391
    @taylorstephensen-beal5391 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2222

    “I choose not to eat some days.” Babes, that’s called an eating disorder. 1:26

    • @JasonVoorheeTalkShow
      @JasonVoorheeTalkShow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +333

      Crazy how people are casually overlooking Parker stating he has an eating disorder

    • @marymcintyre1702
      @marymcintyre1702 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +151

      Fasting is not a eating disorder, some people fast for religious reasons first of all and this has been practiced for centuries. There are also numerous studies on the health benefits of fasting such as increasing memory, regulating insulin (decreasing risk for type 2 diabetes) fasting enhances heart health by improving blood pressure, triglycerides, and cholesterol levels therefore reducing risk for heart conditions. Fasting increases the generation of nerve cells to help enhance cognitive function and reduce inflammation. Fasting increases growth hormone secretion research shows that this key hormone is involved metabolism, weight loss, and muscle growth. Several studies have found that fasting could naturally increase HGH levels. One review article noted that fasting for 37.5 hours can increase basal HGH concentrations by as much as ten times and also reduces the metabolic rate at which the body clears HGH. Several animal studies have found promising results on the potential lifespan-extending effects of fasting. the effects of periodic fasting on the human gut and found that fasting increased the diversity of helpful bacteria in the gut microbiome, including the Christensenella species, which are related to longevity. The researchers also noted an increase in sirtuins, proteins involved in metabolic regulation that are also associated with longevity. Fasting could reduce tumor progression and increase chemotherapy’s effectiveness. Calling fasting a eating disorder regardless of someone’s religious beliefs or health reasons is incredibly ignorant.

    • @EowynSoup
      @EowynSoup 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +200

      ​@marymcintyre1702 fasting isn't an ED, but he later acknowledged he's severely underweight. Earlier he said he chooses to be skinny. It's all red flags to me

    • @medogerty6013
      @medogerty6013 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      He seems happy doing it though and he’s not victimizing himself. So I don’t see an issue with it.

    • @simplecontinuous2343
      @simplecontinuous2343 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      I was surprised it took me this long to find this comment! Or that more people weren’t bringing it up.

  • @mengl29
    @mengl29 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2525

    As someone who has lost a ton of weight (45kg aka 100 pounds), it is definitely difficult to lose weight. Getting over that initial craving / transition period is really really hard. However, once you get past that first month or so it does get easier. And it feels so much better! You can do so many more things more easily, and life just generally improves. If you are currently going through the weight loss process, don't give up, you can do this, I did, so you definitely can!

    • @poejavelski148
      @poejavelski148 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      Great job on your progress! I absolutely agree. I was the opposite, I was once 130 pounds at 6’3, and lean bulked 60-65 pounds over a few years. The hardest part was definitely near the beginning, changing your life long eating habits is super tough. After about 30 pounds gained, I felt like I had developed much better habits and was much happier and just kept going from there.

    • @mengl29
      @mengl29 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@poejavelski148 Sounds like you've done amazing mate, congratulations on your successful efforts. I will say, as someone who has been on both sides of the spectrum, it is still difficult for me not to either undereat or potentially overeat, however, i'm doing my best to maintain a healthy lifestyle, and in the end that's all we can do. Do our best to be the best version of ourselves we can

    • @poejavelski148
      @poejavelski148 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mengl29 Love to hear it, keep doing what you’re doing 💪

    • @JW-1089
      @JW-1089 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for sharing. There are so many weight loss stories on this app that are very inspiring.

    • @mengl29
      @mengl29 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@JW-1089No, thank you for taking the time to read it, I appreciate it

  • @vanishayvanna3486
    @vanishayvanna3486 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That betterhelp ad came in as a jumpscare😭

  • @dariusjohn7581
    @dariusjohn7581 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I love the congeniality and well-manneredness of the plus-sized people. Great conversation and great questions.

  • @kaitie4200
    @kaitie4200 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1644

    As someone who has been both severely underweight AND overweight, the way I was treated while overweight was so much worse. Sure, I was made fun of while I was too thin - but doctors believed me, strangers were kinder to me, the world accomodated me.

    • @Sarah-xq4cf
      @Sarah-xq4cf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

      OMG THIS! I was overweight and nobody ever batted an eye to me, never got compliments, etc. Lost 30 lbs due to depression and there were so many compliments but I was in such a worse mindset. I've gained back around 14lbs and I've been so happy even though the compliments went away. It's crazy how our weight (even just a minimal amount in change) can make people view us differently in seconds.

    • @chainsaw_king0476
      @chainsaw_king0476 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      Actually I agree with this overweight people do have it worse when It comes to bullying but it comes to compliments I think it's because people overlook how harmful it is to be under weight. As they aren't as noticeable at a glance as clothes often times hide it

    • @DrArthurCGarp
      @DrArthurCGarp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Bingo!
      I grew up very overweight, I don’t think I ever hit clinical obesity but there was no mistaking how big I was. When I finally lost weight the treatment I received from others made me want to cry and so I kept going until I was nearly underweight.
      When I say I went from getting zero attention (dating wise) to being hit on I mean it. When “nobody” cares about you and then you suddenly have people telling you how amazing you look and should feel it does something to you psychologically and physically

    • @ronny-yj8oc
      @ronny-yj8oc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      True, but being underweight is also a HUGE struggle that so many people are overlooking and feel free to comment and judge on easily since "you're skinny".

    • @Blakoss
      @Blakoss 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      It’s pretty privilege. People are subconsciously nicer to better looking people. It’s got nothing to do with how healthy you are just how sexually attractive you look. It’s pretty messed up but it’s life

  • @16ilovevampires
    @16ilovevampires 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2919

    Topic idea: Parents of multiple children vs. People who are childfree by choice
    Some prompt suggestions:
    I've been judged for my choices
    My moral or religious beliefs have contributed to my decision
    I feel represented in social media
    I sometimes envy the other side

    • @meyass4163
      @meyass4163 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      this is the most interesting suggestion ive seen @jubilee 👈👈

    • @RachelDee
      @RachelDee 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +123

      Additional prompt: my financial habits and goals contributed to my choice

    • @dinkyboss
      @dinkyboss 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      This! I have a feeling they’ll make that video soon because it’s very topical

    • @vl0731
      @vl0731 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes!

    • @savannahrichardson254
      @savannahrichardson254 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yesss

  • @aceeeplaceee
    @aceeeplaceee 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What I never understand is why no one talks about the fact that some people CAN NOT LOSE WEIGHT. I have a hormonal disorder that literally causes excessive weight. It is INCREDIBLY difficult to lose the weight. I workout at the gym two hours a day, drink plenty of water, eat a balanced diet and nothing works. Im talking losing a pound MAYBE in 6 months if your lucky. Its absolutely terrible. The only thing I hear is "you are not trying enough". Oh beleive me a lot of people try. Its not our faults though. I know thats not everyones case but it is for a lot of people.

  • @lamonnaiemer
    @lamonnaiemer หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really love that they brought this variety of perspectives together in a harmonious way despite the differences of their opinions and active realities.
    I deeply appreciate this broadcast. And for the exposure and the interruption of Lauren.

  • @metronia2183
    @metronia2183 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2024

    nah the way Lauren was slowly shaking her head when Madeline said she was the average weight for women in America 💀. 10.32

    • @victoriaperez2752
      @victoriaperez2752 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +101

      Lol she like no im the only example of average

    • @_diw_5705
      @_diw_5705 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +342

      like wtf shawty said she average weight at like 300 pounds

    • @slimey.1387
      @slimey.1387 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +142

      Yea I was like pretty sure the average weight is 170 lbs in America… 😭

    • @canary3853
      @canary3853 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +140

      I mean she was actively wrong. There is *no way* that woman is 170lb’s or lighter. Which is fine. I could not care less how much she weighs. I do think it’s a false perception of either herself or the rest of society.

    • @kv913
      @kv913 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      Because Madeline is delusional

  • @joshhoggle
    @joshhoggle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1094

    i weighed 230 and came down to 140 it changed my life actually my whole outlook im more positive and my mental vibes are way more delightful

    • @dank4556
      @dank4556 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

      I think people underestimate how much isn’t just physical but mental. My therapist actually recommended exercise to help my mental health, I went from a bmi of 30.1 to 23.6 and not only did every health marker improved but so did my depression and really all aspects of my life. I feel so much better in all ways as I started taking care of my health

    • @joshhoggle
      @joshhoggle หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      way to go pal!@@dank4556

    • @user-ch6uw4pf2x
      @user-ch6uw4pf2x หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I think a lot of it is do to the lifestyle changed that came with weight loss. Body image is only one part of it

    • @Shark-pj8in
      @Shark-pj8in หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@dank4556it is physically straining which can cause mental strain too. As well as society hating on bigger people.

    • @Jaysi_NY03
      @Jaysi_NY03 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      That crazy I started 250 and now I also came down 140. I salute you !!!, it was not easy. “Self discipline”

  • @EllaLuke-vc1pd
    @EllaLuke-vc1pd หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've always found it interesting that people default to skinny being more healthy than obese. Like when you are on a medication that impacts your weight, you can CHOOSE to go off of it because you have free will - but that doesn't make it the healthier choice?

    • @tonyisnotdead
      @tonyisnotdead หลายเดือนก่อน

      medication impacting your weight doesn't make skinny the less or equal healthiest option to obesity

  • @destinyani
    @destinyani หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The whole weight issue is not cut and dry… therefore, no need to be rude to anyone. Calories in/out is definitely not always the case either.

  • @koolkat6070
    @koolkat6070 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +690

    Lauren messed up a lot of very easy debate points and surprisingly Dominic seemed to be the most down to earth of the cast. His reasoning is probably a reflection of the way society currently treats overweight men in comparison to overweight women.
    Edit: to add i reckon they should've had a bodybuilder as part of the cast as well

    • @hoophinhimer
      @hoophinhimer หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I COMPLETELY AGREE. There were so many points that that could've been made, but it seemed that they chose subjective points instead of actually looking at the concrete answers.

    • @YoBoi-cu6bh
      @YoBoi-cu6bh หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think they should have added a section of “average people” with BMIs for 20-30.

    • @YoBoi-cu6bh
      @YoBoi-cu6bh หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Like me for instance I am 153 and 5’6 I have a BMI of 25. From my personal experience obesity is a choice in the winter my weight usually gets up to around 155 due to less activity and holiday foods. Then in the summer I will usually lose 5-10 pounds simply because I tend to be more active. This isn’t genetics it my personal eating and exercise habits.

  • @hmhm4219
    @hmhm4219 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2158

    That girl who mentioned possible link to the thyroid should be checked for hypothyroidism if she can, that definitely causes you to gain more than the average person

    • @zbridgjpxupzm
      @zbridgjpxupzm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +167

      It's true thyroid affects things a little bit but at the end of the day it's your hand that puts the excess food in your mouth and it's your choice to not have physical activity

    • @moosh3044
      @moosh3044 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      She for surrrrreee should!!!! All it is, is a blood test, the medicine is very affordable too and life changing !!!!!!!

    • @Yiti-ff4wg
      @Yiti-ff4wg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

      I have hypo and you do gain weight but it’s not an excuse. You can loose weight and stay at a healthy weight.

    • @Meep295
      @Meep295 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      Scientifically, it doesn’t cause as drastic of a difference as people think. It’s always calories in calories out. You’re the one putting the food in your mouth

    • @DayDayBradshaw
      @DayDayBradshaw 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      ⁠@@zbridgjpxupzmthat’s not true, my mom has thyroid problems that has grown so big she looks pregnant. She’s not severely overweight but it has been difficult because quite literally she can’t drop that look because of her thyroid. You really shouldn’t speak as if that’s everyone’s situation….

  • @user-go7zy3fc5f
    @user-go7zy3fc5f หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    No one should shame someone into doing anything. Negative reinforcement isn’t the way. Shaming is a psychological abuse tactic.

  • @Philster81
    @Philster81 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Madeline saying that she’s at “average weight for being America” really says something about America. No wonder we have an obesity epidemic and health crisis in this country.

  • @LeonB1
    @LeonB1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1512

    Can we appreciate dominick by being so honest

    • @doctorposting
      @doctorposting 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      everyone praising dom cause he was the only normal one in a group full of fools😂

    • @marlonmoncrieffe0728
      @marlonmoncrieffe0728 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      There were other non-fools here, ​@@doctorposting.
      Actually, only Madeline, Cambria, and Lauren were bad.

    • @doctorposting
      @doctorposting 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@marlonmoncrieffe0728Lauren was the only one with any logic

    • @marlonmoncrieffe0728
      @marlonmoncrieffe0728 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Lauren was uncharitable but yeah, smarter than Cambria, at least, @@doctorposting .

    • @choclte_vbes6979
      @choclte_vbes6979 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@doctorposting disingenuous take

  • @cloudyns
    @cloudyns 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +718

    Lauren was embarrassing to be honest. "Skinny people don't eat junk food". She also was implying that only skinny people can wear bikinis and provocative outfits but that bigger people shouldn't. She seemed very clueless.

    • @whalium889
      @whalium889 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      I am hoping she learned a lot from being on this episode of middle ground because it seemed like there was a lot she didn’t know.

    • @kiriavatar123
      @kiriavatar123 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      She was def trying to be combative when everyone else seemed to be having a really empathetic back and forth

    • @Kingofthenet2
      @Kingofthenet2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@whalium889so true

    • @elizabethrhiannon2924
      @elizabethrhiannon2924 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      When Madeline said she was the average weight of a woman in the U.S. and Lauren shook her head aggressively… she definitely seemed fatphobic. I say that as a skinny girl. She definitely wanted to be condescending and rude to them

    • @sugarfish223
      @sugarfish223 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@elizabethrhiannon2924 IOW, she very badly wanted to "Show Her Concern"(TM). Funny how such "concerned" people just can't quite get to the point of faking empathy long enough to be convincing.

  • @mrknucklehead5882
    @mrknucklehead5882 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Lauren gives off “Head of an HOA” vibes.