When I buy a Toyota, I don't want the interior wearing out after 12 months. I much prefer the hard wearing materials, its way more reassuring then soft leather that fades and splits just as the warranty expires. Rangers look nice, for 12 months, then they look like a tired taxi and need replacing. Not so for Hilux. But it is about to be replaced in 2025 so it is old now, but it didn't just become crap all of a sudden, it could just continue to improve, as it will very shortly.
Bloody awesome review and great to hear your REAL opinions and what YOU would buy. That's why I come here. Love the realistic approach you have. Best review site in Oz!
I have a modified 2015 Hilux. I like it because it’s basic. It does the job and it’s reliable. I’m going to keep it for it’s full life… but would like to buy a new one at some stage. hopefully they do not go full hybrid. I stick with Toyota because of the reliability it’s tough and it lasts. Also easy to get parts.
Just ordered a 2024 SR Hilux extra cab in manual, love my manuals, never owned an auto but have driven them and not a fan. During my Ute shopping process I was blown away that very few brands still offer a manual transmission, Ford, VW, Mitsubishi, Isuzu only have autos. Thanks Toyota for still offering the manual, made the decision really easy for me in the end, yes Nissan and Mazda have a manual option but Toyota's manual still works with radar cruise control which is a really nice touch. (also don't even get me started on Chinese Utes, not even considering one of them). With the way things are trending towards diesel cars, I feel they will be getting harder and harder to buy in the coming years with these emissions taxes coming, I wanted to A: buy one before all that happens and B: buy something that has a realistic chance of still being running in 10+ years time. Simplicity = Reliability.....
That is the reason I got a 2.4D 2022 model Hilux. No Electronics and driver assist. Just a truck with and iron diesel engine. All plastic and cloth, can’t break and if it does it cost nothing to replace
@@benjaminkessler8169 that’s exactly right mate, looked at a lot of Utes and got prices, a lot of the reviews say your not getting a lot for your money, but I say I’m getting Ute that will last me 10-15 years before any major work needs to be done to it
Nice video mate, some crazy utes out there now but this is still the one I want the most 😅 currently driving a 1999 Toyota Prado that’s a car I can rely on.
I own the 48 rouge, and it's a great ute. But toyota mislead fuel consumption. I ended up around 10ltr/100km and 14ltr/100km when towing. I changed to suspension because I found it to roll, now it's solid on the corners.
I have a 48v Sr5 I am impressed with the extra power it gives. The stop start feature is very smooth when it activates. It starts smoothly when going from brake to accelerator even when doing it quickly. Happy with it after only 5000km I do wish you could fold up all the back seats but you can’t as the 48v battery is under the seat and you can’t access it. I also found that you don’t have a place under the bonnet for a second battery which also disappoints me but all round happy with the vehicle.
Toyota being old school is perfectly fine, but this doesn't explain their inflated pricing. I also wonder whether they are really generally reliable. The HiLux - yes ... after all these years - but e.g. the RAV4 has a rather mediocre reliability score in Europe. Maybe their reliability comes from historically very short service intervals. 6 months/10k is on the verge of overservicing (by the standards of other manufacturers).
18 yrs old my first vehicle back in 1984 was a Toyota corona 1976 horrible body roll but never let me down, 35 years as a plumber I had a hiace 1994 and honestly the pain I put that through , but never let me down, I’m now on my 4th hilux no frills always an SR i can’t speak highly enough of there reputation. Yes they lag on inside comfort ride and tech but reliability and capability for its purpose unmatched , and for what I want it’s a no brainer. *side note when you come to complete stop on an incline the car holds the brake on for 4 secs after you let your foot off the brake to accelerate releasing as soon as you hit the accelerator on my auto transmission(not sure if it’s available on the manual).
The DPF issue was more than just city driving. The location of the 5th injector and early programming of the DPF burn also contributed. Toyota updated the software in late 2018 and redesigned the 5th injector housing in 2020. All fixed now on this model but they did screw it up first time. Ex 2018 Hilux owner.
lol everyone wants to go there but really its nothing special, all up takes 5 minutes to do that very small section. **wink**wink** hey Bret its somewhere north west of Newcastle :) lol.
That would be great. The next-gen model is set to to be based on a modified version of the 300's platform (TNGA-F), which means it could technically adopt the V6.
Yep ive known some people buying the Hilux (or other utes) even if they dont really need the tub for anything. I own both Hilux and Fortuner and the latter is definitely more comfortable to live in with. Yes the Fortuner is nowhere the most comfortable in its class, but its still more civilized than its ute brother.
G'day, great video. Toyota initially denied the DPF issue was their fault hence 2 BILLION dollar Class Action which they lost. A you-tuber 4xOverland who is a Toyota fan had an issue with premature brake disc wear which Toyota fobbed off. The 200 series Land cruiser had an air filter box issue, where dust would bypass the filter and stuffed the engine which Toyota denied was an issue, and then did the same design in the 300 series. There are other issues with other models and years which some research will uncover but that's besides the point. The point is that every vehicle regardless of manufacturer seems to have an issue of some type, the trick is to find a vehicle that best fits your criteria, then discover the inherent issues the vehicle has and find out if there is an aftermarket solution or decide if you can live with it.
Agree, there's a reason they can charge top dollar for them and they stay as the top seller. You can buy a crappy chinese ute for cheaper, but the safe money buys the Hilux.
I would want more options available with that wide base. I think its only available on the GR and the australian Rouge versions. Besides, i will prefer the ability to fold the rear seat over the 48V batery.
Not an expert or anything but maybe the battery is there for those stop & go situations where the engine gets multiple stops & starts consecutively. I hate those systems when it's on a conventional starter. These mild hybrids are built for those
Nah I’ll pass on this, technology and safety 5 years behind its competitors. No wonder the Ford Ranger outsells Hilux. And now with the Chinese Utes making entry in the market offering class leading warranties and value for money.
These things are so 90's still.... Maybe a strut system bonnet with a backup stick will please the diehards.... The "mild hybrid" system weight uses more fuel so whats the benefit of having it.
The ‘new’ v6 in the r’anger’ is actually the old dinosaur that was fitted to the territory and landrovers with a bit of a refresh. So you can expect rangers to be blowing engines just as often as gearboxes in the future 😂
related to not the same design. The major changes between the 2.7L and the 3.0L are? Graphite iron block redesigned crank, bearings and oil pump and pick up Intake ports are redesigned for more flow the exhaust manifolds have bypass ports for the "scavenger" turbo unlike the cross over port the 2.7L has the 2.7L has a VGT (variable geometry) turbo, the 3.0 has a scavenger (re: twin scroll) turbo and can be upgraded to twin turbo for the next spec update if ned be (which most likely will happen). The other big change is not using a plastic intake plenum the 3.0L uses alloy plenum. These "lion V6" engines were used in the big boy F150 for at least 3 years in this spec prior Ranger and from US fleet reports for F150 turbo diesel not much goes wrong, the 10-speed n the other hand ...
you my friend are a toyota fan boy,,, nothing wrong with it,, i am too.. but you just made every negative aspect of toyota sound as problem of others....sounds like as per you,, if youre not a tradie or a worker ,, youre not supposed to buy a UTE.. in todays time, there are more companies making new ute's is because an office goer likes to have an idea of having as ute.. and that is ok.. its his money... To the money .. what Ford Ranger has to offer is quite significantly better than Toyota... Mitsubishi, Navara, Ford, Isuzu even KIA now are catering to everyone .... not just the tradies... Toyota is amazing.. HILUX - THE KING... but 2024 , people are tired of interiors of 2000's old corolla... if they improve... can you imagine HILUX will RULE... There is no one to Beat TOYOTA
@@abhijoseph3761 I don’t own a Toyota and probably never will as they don’t make anything that suits me. But I am a fan of good products, regardless of the badge. From what I can see here this seems no fuss, and very durable and capable, which is perfect for its target market and purpose in my opinion.
Can you please highlight NZ toyota has 15,000km service while Aus is still 10,000km service th-cam.com/video/oUUX9vmsvrQ/w-d-xo.html at 2:35 time stamp
Correction: The MTS (Multi-Terrain Select) system does actually offer a 'sand' mode.
When I buy a Toyota, I don't want the interior wearing out after 12 months. I much prefer the hard wearing materials, its way more reassuring then soft leather that fades and splits just as the warranty expires. Rangers look nice, for 12 months, then they look like a tired taxi and need replacing. Not so for Hilux. But it is about to be replaced in 2025 so it is old now, but it didn't just become crap all of a sudden, it could just continue to improve, as it will very shortly.
Agree, Ranger leather steering wheels (most likely not real leather) worn within 12 months. Same for the seats (leather).
Bloody awesome review and great to hear your REAL opinions and what YOU would buy. That's why I come here. Love the realistic approach you have. Best review site in Oz!
Great review. Will be ordering my Rogue very soon
Toyota didn't become a trillion dollar company by chance....
Exactly.......They could be liken to McDonald's.
It's average at best, but you know what you are going to get.
And the most indebted company in the world with their assets value depleting each 1/4
@@jeppo1185but McDonalds is crap haha
@@sassall4284 🤣
Dmax owner here. Just saying.... Hilux is good. But I love my Dmax. Mine has taken me everywhere I have wanted to go and back without missing a beat.
This awesome review was quite enjoyable. Cheers buddy.
@@Malc664 Thanks 👍
Good honest review. Thanks Brett
Good review ,thank you.
SOOOO glad my Toyota doesnt have a huge screen 🎉❤
toyota had mild hybrid for the Crown taxi cars in japan , and those units lasted 700,000 km no problem on original battery and unit
Good one mate 👍
The Hilux has everything you need, nothing you don‘t 😢 That‘s why I bought one in 2023 😊
I have a modified 2015 Hilux. I like it because it’s basic. It does the job and it’s reliable. I’m going to keep it for it’s full life… but would like to buy a new one at some stage. hopefully they do not go full hybrid.
I stick with Toyota because of the reliability it’s tough and it lasts. Also easy to get parts.
Just ordered a 2024 SR Hilux extra cab in manual, love my manuals, never owned an auto but have driven them and not a fan. During my Ute shopping process I was blown away that very few brands still offer a manual transmission, Ford, VW, Mitsubishi, Isuzu only have autos. Thanks Toyota for still offering the manual, made the decision really easy for me in the end, yes Nissan and Mazda have a manual option but Toyota's manual still works with radar cruise control which is a really nice touch.
(also don't even get me started on Chinese Utes, not even considering one of them).
With the way things are trending towards diesel cars, I feel they will be getting harder and harder to buy in the coming years with these emissions taxes coming, I wanted to A: buy one before all that happens and B: buy something that has a realistic chance of still being running in 10+ years time.
Simplicity = Reliability.....
That is the reason I got a 2.4D 2022 model Hilux. No Electronics and driver assist. Just a truck with and iron diesel engine. All plastic and cloth, can’t break and if it does it cost nothing to replace
@@benjaminkessler8169 that’s exactly right mate, looked at a lot of Utes and got prices, a lot of the reviews say your not getting a lot for your money, but I say I’m getting Ute that will last me 10-15 years before any major work needs to be done to it
Nice video mate, some crazy utes out there now but this is still the one I want the most 😅 currently driving a 1999 Toyota Prado that’s a car I can rely on.
I own the 48 rouge, and it's a great ute. But toyota mislead fuel consumption. I ended up around 10ltr/100km and 14ltr/100km when towing. I changed to suspension because I found it to roll, now it's solid on the corners.
How do you keep the lenses of the external camera so clean?
I have a 48v Sr5 I am impressed with the extra power it gives. The stop start feature is very smooth when it activates. It starts smoothly when going from brake to accelerator even when doing it quickly. Happy with it after only 5000km I do wish you could fold up all the back seats but you can’t as the 48v battery is under the seat and you can’t access it. I also found that you don’t have a place under the bonnet for a second battery which also disappoints me but all round happy with the vehicle.
Toyota being old school is perfectly fine, but this doesn't explain their inflated pricing. I also wonder whether they are really generally reliable. The HiLux - yes ... after all these years - but e.g. the RAV4 has a rather mediocre reliability score in Europe. Maybe their reliability comes from historically very short service intervals. 6 months/10k is on the verge of overservicing (by the standards of other manufacturers).
Which version to buy though ?!. Sr5 , Rogue, GR Sports, Revo. What are the differences ?
18 yrs old my first vehicle back in 1984 was a Toyota corona 1976 horrible body roll but never let me down, 35 years as a plumber I had a hiace 1994 and honestly the pain I put that through , but never let me down, I’m now on my 4th hilux no frills always an SR i can’t speak highly enough of there reputation.
Yes they lag on inside comfort ride and tech but reliability and capability for its purpose unmatched , and for what I want it’s a no brainer. *side note when you come to complete stop on an incline the car holds the brake on for 4 secs after you let your foot off the brake to accelerate releasing as soon as you hit the accelerator on my auto transmission(not sure if it’s available on the manual).
@@garyrogers5344 Great stuff. Thanks for the insight.
desde la Patagonia ...la hilux mecánica SI tiene el control de retención ...gran maquina...saludos
Great video buddy 👍
The DPF issue was more than just city driving. The location of the 5th injector and early programming of the DPF burn also contributed. Toyota updated the software in late 2018 and redesigned the 5th injector housing in 2020. All fixed now on this model but they did screw it up first time. Ex 2018 Hilux owner.
I’m considering the new GR Hilux but live in urban Sydney. This is my only concern about buying new diesels. Should I be worried?
@khoaluu4934 why buy a ute for city?
Where do you do your 4WD testing looks like a great spot.
lol everyone wants to go there but really its nothing special, all up takes 5 minutes to do that very small section.
**wink**wink** hey Bret its somewhere north west of Newcastle :) lol.
I have a 2023 povo pack workmate dual cab. I live on acreage does the job ok.
Would love to see you buy a ute and build it up a bit. Would be good to watch someone getting into it fresh
why dont they offer the Landcruiser engine in it too??
That would be great. The next-gen model is set to to be based on a modified version of the 300's platform (TNGA-F), which means it could technically adopt the V6.
Gas hood supports will wear out. A hood rod will never wear out.
thumbs up Bret for the review.
I agree if you never use the tub then buy the 4x4 Wagon version re: Fortuna instead.
Yep ive known some people buying the Hilux (or other utes) even if they dont really need the tub for anything. I own both Hilux and Fortuner and the latter is definitely more comfortable to live in with. Yes the Fortuner is nowhere the most comfortable in its class, but its still more civilized than its ute brother.
Can a bike/ motocycle fit in the rear?
G'day, great video. Toyota initially denied the DPF issue was their fault hence 2 BILLION dollar Class Action which they lost. A you-tuber 4xOverland who is a Toyota fan had an issue with premature brake disc wear which Toyota fobbed off. The 200 series Land cruiser had an air filter box issue, where dust would bypass the filter and stuffed the engine which Toyota denied was an issue, and then did the same design in the 300 series. There are other issues with other models and years which some research will uncover but that's besides the point. The point is that every vehicle regardless of manufacturer seems to have an issue of some type, the trick is to find a vehicle that best fits your criteria, then discover the inherent issues the vehicle has and find out if there is an aftermarket solution or decide if you can live with it.
is the mountain top waterproof
Agree, there's a reason they can charge top dollar for them and they stay as the top seller. You can buy a crappy chinese ute for cheaper, but the safe money buys the Hilux.
Those Chinese Utes are tempting to purchase due to the price and cheapness, but who knows about reliability. Reliability is why people bug Hilux’s
The people who do buy cheap Chinese Utes feel the burn later once it stops working and they get sick of the terrible driving dynamics
I would want more options available with that wide base. I think its only available on the GR and the australian Rouge versions. Besides, i will prefer the ability to fold the rear seat over the 48V batery.
Waiting for my Rouge in October 😊
Not an expert or anything but maybe the battery is there for those stop & go situations where the engine gets multiple stops & starts consecutively.
I hate those systems when it's on a conventional starter. These mild hybrids are built for those
Yep, good point and you're probably right. The stop-start function is very smooth with the generator.
drove the Hollis for a few weeks felt so slow under hard acceleration
I want dependability, simplicity, confidence that I know it will last the test of time. Not gimmicks, gadgets and a soft dash. Am fine with V-Active.
Ppl buy utes to look tough. Most are at my local shopping center
The cavernous areas underneath these trucks means lots of aerodynamic drag making it suck fuel on the highway.
when was this filmed? Rouge's are at least 76k
@@Northstar_004 Current price, excluding on-road costs 👍
@@drivingenthusiastaustralia I see, thank you 🙏
Nah I’ll pass on this, technology and safety 5 years behind its competitors. No wonder the Ford Ranger outsells Hilux. And now with the Chinese Utes making entry in the market offering class leading warranties and value for money.
With this review im going by rouge 48v or maybe not. But rouge is better than gr just gotta upgrqde tyres
Amazing Review!!
These things are so 90's still.... Maybe a strut system bonnet with a backup stick will please the diehards.... The "mild hybrid" system weight uses more fuel so whats the benefit of having it.
The ‘new’ v6 in the r’anger’ is actually the old dinosaur that was fitted to the territory and landrovers with a bit of a refresh. So you can expect rangers to be blowing engines just as often as gearboxes in the future 😂
related to not the same design.
The major changes between the 2.7L and the 3.0L are?
Graphite iron block
redesigned crank, bearings and oil pump and pick up
Intake ports are redesigned for more flow
the exhaust manifolds have bypass ports for the "scavenger" turbo unlike the cross over port the 2.7L has
the 2.7L has a VGT (variable geometry) turbo, the 3.0 has a scavenger (re: twin scroll) turbo and can be upgraded to twin turbo for the next spec update if ned be (which most likely will happen).
The other big change is not using a plastic intake plenum the 3.0L uses alloy plenum.
These "lion V6" engines were used in the big boy F150 for at least 3 years in this spec prior Ranger and from US fleet reports for F150 turbo diesel not much goes wrong, the 10-speed n the other hand ...
@@351tgv thanks I didn’t realise it had already seen service in the US. I’d still be wary being a ford!
@@351tgv thanks I didn’t realise it had already seen service in the US. I’d still be wary being a ford!
@@351tgv2.7 was also CGI block and the 3.0 also uses a plastic plenum
I not a fan of the start stop system.
you my friend are a toyota fan boy,,, nothing wrong with it,, i am too.. but you just made every negative aspect of toyota sound as problem of others....sounds like as per you,, if youre not a tradie or a worker ,, youre not supposed to buy a UTE.. in todays time, there are more companies making new ute's is because an office goer likes to have an idea of having as ute.. and that is ok.. its his money... To the money .. what Ford Ranger has to offer is quite significantly better than Toyota... Mitsubishi, Navara, Ford, Isuzu even KIA now are catering to everyone .... not just the tradies... Toyota is amazing.. HILUX - THE KING... but 2024 , people are tired of interiors of 2000's old corolla... if they improve... can you imagine HILUX will RULE... There is no one to Beat TOYOTA
@@abhijoseph3761 I don’t own a Toyota and probably never will as they don’t make anything that suits me. But I am a fan of good products, regardless of the badge. From what I can see here this seems no fuss, and very durable and capable, which is perfect for its target market and purpose in my opinion.
I got 3 toyotas. All solid af. Every used ranger i get into always sounds like it’s about to blow up. Rangers dont last man.
Can you please highlight NZ toyota has 15,000km service while Aus is still 10,000km service th-cam.com/video/oUUX9vmsvrQ/w-d-xo.html at 2:35 time stamp
I hate stop /start just that would be enough to not make me buy it
An auto electrician can fix that issue.... made my switch a toggle on off so it stayed off like on a fighter jet !
Or just leave the idle up button open
Bags not washing the car.
To expensive as all top end utes
My daihatsu charade can smash that track faster than that old slow toyota
8 seconds 80-110....
Read it again, 60-110, and that’s plenty to merge on highways.