Forgot one thing about the S5 - its dual native ISO. That's *the* reason why I'm saving for it to use it as a secondary camera to my MFT gear. Also, as a photographer, I do appreciate sensor shift high res photos.
Absolutely agree... If I do shift away or need to supplement my micro four thirds equipment, I would like to get an S5 and then perhaps even a Leica CL that uses the same amount lenses but is super compact..
S5 benefits that grabbed me, especially for video: > Better grip > Has dual card slots > Dual ISO > 4K/60p video > 1.79x better color depth with a better overall color science > 918.4k dots higher resolution (screen) > H.264/MOV 4:2:2 10-Bit video internal! > Anamorphic shooting modes > Slow motion 180fps at 1080p > RAW Video Output
I hope this video is helpful if you are deciding between these two cameras! Timestamps: 0:00 - About this video 0:35 - Brand Wars 1:08 - Panasonic S5 (5 Reasons) 5:09 - Sony A7C (5 Reasons) 8:52 - Positives on Both Cameras 10:47 - Negatives on both Cameras 11:23 - Which is my Favorite? Check it out here: ►B&H Photo USA Panasonic S5 - bhpho.to/3ch46zj Sony A7C - bhpho.to/3fIU4bx ►Amazon De Panasonic S5 - amzn.to/41nCEIH Sony A7C - amzn.to/3xMVhYU ►Amazon UK Panasonic S5 - amzn.to/3oxas3i Sony A7C - amzn.to/3wPFEyx ►Amazon Australia Panasonic S5 - amzn.to/3wQNEz8 Sony A7C - amzn.to/3Dtb7t2 (Thanks for your support!)
I have the Sony A7C. How did you set the picture profile on the Sony camera so it looks more like film rather than live (like the news or a soap opera)?
@@sarajennfunvideos208 That's the no picture profile. I am using Auto White Balance as well. No tricks, I just hit record in Aperture priority mode. :)
I have the S5 and I Love it. If it had great autofocus and no crop in 4k 60, it would be the perfect camera for me. Can't find a better camera under $3000 than this and it only costs $1700 now. The only camera brand that supports two types of RAW, 5.9k BlackMagic and Pro Res.
One killer feature on the S5 that doesn't seem to get mentioned a lot is the Dual ISO. I can shoot at up to 6400 ISO in very low light and still get very clean footage. Also the headphone jack is Soooooo worth it. I've been using the Sony cameras for the last two years and when my S5 arrived it's been so nice to have a headphone jack. AF as Shane says is pretty good. Very usable. Colours are amazing on the S5 and V-Log is the full version not V-Log-Light giving 13-14 stops of dynamic range. Also when I use an external monitor I can output the 'on-screen-display' to the external monitor. I love being able to do that as with the Sony I was never sure I was actually recording and missed many a take because of it. With the Panasonic I can have the on screen display on my external monitor and have the border turn red when I'm recording, very helpful and reassuring.
Thanks for the video. It is exactly what I was looking for, since I'm trying to decide whether to buy the Panasonic S5 or the Sony A7c. I like the styling of the A7c better, although that might have something to do with the fact that I owned a Sony a6000 a number of years ago, and it has the same basic form-factor and rangefinder-style ergonomics. I also think the overall image that the Sony produces is nicer - for lack of a better way to describe things, the Sony seems to produce a creamier, richer and smoother image. On the other hand, I don't like the fact that when you plug in an external HDMI monitor on the Sony, you lose access to the camera's display LCD and whatever touch functions it has, including setting focus point. Based on your information, here is how I now think of the two cameras: If you do mostly photography, vlogging or occasional videography where you don't need minute control of all the camera's functions while shooting, then the Sony is your camera. If you do mostly videography and need good control of the camera's operating parameters and good stills photography capabilities are also important to you, then the S5 is your camera. There are three things you didn't touch upon that might be important. First, the S5 offers a 96MP high-res JPEG capture option. Second, in some markets, the S5 with kit lens sells for less than the Sony (In Canada, the S5 is $200 cheaper). Lastly, while the range of native L-mount lenses is limited, you can buy an adapter and use whatever third-party lenses fit the adapter.
I am a wedding videographer and using g9s for the last 3 years. A few weeks ago I swtiched to two S5s. In a few months I will replace my other 2 g9s with S5
This is a really great comparison. I love how you compared them with their best features, which is better for unbiased reviews. I also appreciate the review in the field, rather than in a studio. Thank you for this! 🙂
excellent pro review. Now for wedding work, considering other people are filming the material: Comparing general Sonys, 6300, 73, the lot, versus a Panasonic G9, the HD on the G9 just eats up the Sonys. And the post processing is much more forgiving. Hands down whatever the Panasonics simply thrash the competition. Image quality is king, and skin tone always better.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Yep. The new app has that functionality built into it. The AF works well in One Area + mode for sitting subjects (no pulsing)
when you did the dual screen of yourself with both cameras I actually preferred the A7C. Im edging that way because my social media work is fast turnaround - its the content the customers need - I don't think they'd notice a post grade. Plus the gyro stab Ive used in a ZV1 and its so good. PS - Im a Nikon shooter at the moment.
2hours of battery life, vectorscope, waveforms, internal lut preview, 10bit 422 internal ..Panasonic iBis..insane color science... you can recover up to 4 stops in raw photos..this camera is litterally upgradeable with xlr module, bat grip for 4hours of non stop use and an ext raw recorder to get 6k raw video. Only downside is af in video nt photo...not to say a7c feels like a toy with it's near to zero grib..put a sony gm 24-70 and after 30mins of use, say hi to pain for me..and s5 is only 1600$ we live in insane times lol
Hi mate, awesome video as always. Btw 9:48 - as far as I know - A7C has a headphone jack too. If you would compare rolling shutter between those two - is there a huge difference? Cheers.
The Panasonic is better in terms of rolling shutter. The only good Sony for rolling shutter is the A7SIII/FX3 (and probably some of the other new models). Edit - Thanks for the correction on the headphone jack. For some reason I totally forgot it had one as it's not near the audio input. 🤣
If you are concerned about rolling shutter then it is Panasonic all day long. It is a Panny strength, just like IBIS. I use both Sony and Panasonic and I find that I am often regretting having taken a Sony out, and the IBIS is a big part of that. I don’t think I every regret having chosen a Panasonic. For me, the user experience is simply better.
The big question is: Why hasn't Shane got all the specs and release date on the GH6 yet? :P Your videos always look great man, regardless of the gear. Maybe it has something to do with the operator?
Thanks Kevin. I can't wait to see what the GH6 has to offer mate. I am a big fan of MFT for a number of reasons. :). The S5 has grown on me a lot lately, I have to admit. I prefer using it over the more expensive Sony cameras I own as well for some reason. Thanks for the kind words. :)
Great video think I'm going s5 as I want the 4k 50/60 miss it for b roll from my Lumix g9 since I switched to sony. Crazy black Friday deals at the moment £1499 for camera, 20-60, official pany battery, grip + moza aircross 2 pro and back pack. Time to say by to my a6400 🤣🤣
Just found your tech channel. Very impressive, intuitive and detailed to perfection. More than just musically talented, obviously more talents than imagined. Always impressed by the quality of the content 👏 again no disappointments .
it all depends if you record a lot of video. Because for stills there's absolutely nothing wrong with the focus on the Panasonic. And also, one thing that wasn't mentioned: Panasonic is far superior at face and body tracking in groups. It can track up to 15 targets, where the Sony just doesn't track that many
@@fredwouters It may be able to track 15 targets but there's only one focal plane. Only the person in that focal plane will be in focus. So inevitably you have to prioritize and select a single target.
Dilemma is the right word, I had a G9, best ergonomics ever, loved it but AF was not acceptable, I really would like to get a S5 but I'm afraid I will get the same experience, so I stick to my A9 until Panasonic wakes up
Wish it had the Sony autofocus, but dual native ISO, high res mode and a vastly lower price sold me on the S5. Been eyeing both for a while, and just got an S5 with the 50mm for about $300 less than the lowest listed price for the A7C body only.
*Do you know if the FREE Davinci and Final Cut Pro can do 10 bit 4:2:2?* I’m deciding between the Sony A7IV, Sony A7C and LUMIX for my first camera. Likely a 24mm GM lens. Can you use LUMIX as video/audio for zoom calls?
If L-Mount lens isnt not hella expensive, maybe i'll buy S5. But, its not the case. A7C lens selection both native and third party is really great, they have selection from cheap-expensive, but even the cheap one is great. S5 body is maybe cheap for what its offer, but combine it with the lens? I dont think many who want to upgrade can afford it even for its f1.8 lens :(
It's super easy to use manual lenses, that and the kit lens works for me. The 1.8 primes are not that expensive. If you want zooms then it does get expensive.
Thanks bro very insightful. You helped my decision. Just bought the s5. Do know anything about filmmaking only that I want to direct a short film. Any thoughts on the lens sizes I should use to film in one room? Thanks in advance
I can't believe I have finally found a video that covers almost everything that I need it to know between these 2 cameras and still I can't decide, damn it. If anyone could help me.. Basically the only thing that wasn't mentioned here is the video quality in low light. As of right now I have the option to buy either of these cameras as openbox in excellent condition, both with their kit lenses 28-60mm. Sony A7c is going for $1750 and the Panasonic S5 is going for $1800, however if I buy the S5 as New there is a promo that also gives me an extra lens, the Panasonic S85, however as new the Panasonic S5 is going for $2200, I just don't know if that S85mm lens is worth it,getting this camera new for $2200 plus that lens seems a really good deal, but so it is getting either of these cameras as openbox in exellent condition for almost the same price, I think anyways. Please help hereeeeee lol
well, I got the S5 with the 20-60mm, the ultrawide is quite spectacular as a camera is only as good as its lenses. The af is not perfect for moving objects like dancers at all, for interviews etc and slow movements it works fine.
I am in the same situation about low light, but more for photography. Which camera did you buy at the end? And what is your experience in low light (video and/or photography)?
@@dbgmediainc7506. How is auto focus for video....I ordered S5 because long term usage and good grip..Also 4k 60p for this camera is great. Only concern about auto focus thing, which I have seen enough of negativity in youtube 😁... Wanted to check with people who done recent purchase....thanks for insight..
@@beyondhometown I find that there's plenty of options to minimize issues with autofocus. Once you play around with these settings enough, you will most likely see what works for you and when it works better. I don't have any complaints about ir really, also the better the lense,the better the autofocus works in my opinion. If anything I think the autofocus minor issues arise when filming fast moving objects, or getting something in and out frame too quick.
S5 vs A7C the better values represent the S5 Live Composite Mode Yes vs No Viewfinder Magnification 0.74x vs 0.59x LCD Screen Resolution 1.840k dotsvs 922k dots Max Mech. Shutter 1/8000svs 1/4000s Color Depth 25.1vs 25.0 Pixel Shift High-Res Mode Yes (96 MP)vs No 4K Photo Mode Yesvs No 6K Photo Mode Yes vs No Focus Bracketing Yes vs No Focus Stacking Yes vs No Post Focus Mode Yes vs No Storage Slot 2vs 1 Max Video Bit rate 200mbps vs 100mbps Min Focus Sensitivity EV -6 vs EV -4
Thank you, very useful comparision. I am a Pany boy (M43) but I really like that A7C. The small size is the main reason and FF the other. I will get one next year and use it for low light shooting.
Personally I’d suggest looking more into the s5 if your a pany boy. With the systems being so similar from your m4/3 camera, colour science being similar and general design philosophy will make the camera far more easy and simple to swap between the 2. I wouldn’t stress much about the size of the a7C, if you are buying a ff camera for low light, through out the idea of small size. You can’t beat physics, the lenses will be huge either way and the slightly larger size of the s5 will be slight more ergonomic which can actually make it feel lighter. Not to meantion the s5 is also rocking a more recent sensor, from what I’ve heard it handles low light a little better and it also has dual native iso, so you will get cleaner results from the s5. They’re both brilliant cameras but that’s just my 2c
@@jockturner1547 Thank you. I have decided not to go with the A7C in the end. This is because I purchased a GX9 and didn't like the experience I had with it (mostly the lack of joystick). So I prefer not to go that way.
Fantastic comparison. I would also consider the level of support (i.e. firmware updates) though this is about the companies rather than the cameras themselves. I think Panasonic tends to be more "generous" in this regard.
@Jerimiah Cook that is true but the A7IV is in the S5’s spec range so it’s interesting to see that comparison too! Someone may see good autofocus and cheaper lenses as worth the extra $800 since the lenses will be cheaper in the long run, some may prefer the price and stabilization of the Panasonic as well as its pro features in video
You mention the amount of lenses as a plus for the Sony in comparison to Panasonic. But you forget to mention that yes Sony has more options, but there's quite a bunch of other brands that produce L-mount lenses as well. There may not be as many for the L-mount, but all types of the most used sizes are represented now.
I am trying to decide between A7C with the Sony 24-105 and the S5 with the Lumix 24-105, for landscape and portrait photography, with sharpness and auto-focus accuracy (not speed) being the main criteria. Is the Sony 24-105 sharper than the Lumix 24-105, as the dxomark scores suggest ?
I'm glad you mentioned lens selection, it's kind of crucial if you're going for AF. Also, if you plan to do photography as well, Sony is the clear winner...
I have both and i mostly shoot photos on the S5...no anti-aliasing filter, high res modes, great time lapse modes...and my vintage lenses just seem to work better....blasting away in auto everything at 10fps? yeah then the Sony is better.
@@robertwlittlejohn Sure, if you use manual lenses auto focus doesn't matter. I started out using vintage lenses for everything from landscapes to sports, but I appreciate AF when it comes to paid jobs like events and weddings.
@@santosovideo no the vintage lenses actually look better on the S5...no idea why, maybe the lack of antialias, it's definitely sharper when that's what I'm after. Nothing to do with autofocus as it's fine for stills on the S5, it just doesn't have the burst speed of the A7C. I'd never shoot paid work on the sony as I'm always shooting video as well, unless it's instructional/educational where you can let the AF do the work and 8 bit doesn't matter.
not in terms of price range. you see, youtubers made the prices of the s5 tank because they don't know how to use the Area+ autofocus mode, and they keep running the s5 with non native lens, so they told everyone the camera can't autofocus. now it can be found for a similar price to the a7c. the a7iii is way more expensive
Thanks for the video, Shane. As an S5 user, I always get envious of the AF-C and lens selection on Sony cameras (heck, I even still own an a6500 and an a6000 when I need AF). Does the a7C allow one to use AF-S in video? Or is it only AF-C / manual focus when shooting video?
Do you feel you have a good handle on the S5’s focus system? I think there’s a video by Luca Bono (not sure I got his name right) about needing to confirm focus tracking by manually tapping the box over the intended subject. Seemed like a lot of the S-series users didn’t know about that. Not that it was a match for Sony’s AF-C, even then, but seemed to help a lot.
Is that woman in the video that chick from MAFS?... I can’t think what’s her name is atm... btw I just purchased the A7C last night in the Black Friday Sales from JB... the website says I should receive the camera in January... gawd I hope not.
The choice is easy, Lumix S5 all day long. Had both, only have the S5 now. Sony feels like a cheap Chinese knock off, build quality and grip are awful, missing a front control wheel, EVF is a joke, and menus are probably the worst around, you won't enjoy it as a creative joy to use.
Forgot one thing about the S5 - its dual native ISO. That's *the* reason why I'm saving for it to use it as a secondary camera to my MFT gear. Also, as a photographer, I do appreciate sensor shift high res photos.
Absolutely agree... If I do shift away or need to supplement my micro four thirds equipment, I would like to get an S5 and then perhaps even a Leica CL that uses the same amount lenses but is super compact..
So what is your main camera sir?
@@bowdenlacsama I alternate between G100, G90, and G9. Mostly the G90 though.
S5 benefits that grabbed me, especially for video:
> Better grip
> Has dual card slots
> Dual ISO
> 4K/60p video
> 1.79x better color depth with a better overall color science
> 918.4k dots higher resolution (screen)
> H.264/MOV 4:2:2 10-Bit video internal!
> Anamorphic shooting modes
> Slow motion 180fps at 1080p
> RAW Video Output
Panasony A7S5
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I hope this video is helpful if you are deciding between these two cameras!
Timestamps:
0:00 - About this video
0:35 - Brand Wars
1:08 - Panasonic S5 (5 Reasons)
5:09 - Sony A7C (5 Reasons)
8:52 - Positives on Both Cameras
10:47 - Negatives on both Cameras
11:23 - Which is my Favorite?
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(Thanks for your support!)
I have the Sony A7C. How did you set the picture profile on the Sony camera so it looks more like film rather than live (like the news or a soap opera)?
@@sarajennfunvideos208 That's the no picture profile. I am using Auto White Balance as well. No tricks, I just hit record in Aperture priority mode. :)
I have the S5 and I Love it. If it had great autofocus and no crop in 4k 60, it would be the perfect camera for me. Can't find a better camera under $3000 than this and it only costs $1700 now. The only camera brand that supports two types of RAW, 5.9k BlackMagic and Pro Res.
Nikon z6 and z7 supported both raw recordings way before panasonic
@@dandaddalyon12 It's not the 'true' raw, it's line skipped. Panasonic one is true full sensor readout raw
Sigma FP. Leica SL2S.
One killer feature on the S5 that doesn't seem to get mentioned a lot is the Dual ISO. I can shoot at up to 6400 ISO in very low light and still get very clean footage. Also the headphone jack is Soooooo worth it. I've been using the Sony cameras for the last two years and when my S5 arrived it's been so nice to have a headphone jack. AF as Shane says is pretty good. Very usable. Colours are amazing on the S5 and V-Log is the full version not V-Log-Light giving 13-14 stops of dynamic range. Also when I use an external monitor I can output the 'on-screen-display' to the external monitor. I love being able to do that as with the Sony I was never sure I was actually recording and missed many a take because of it. With the Panasonic I can have the on screen display on my external monitor and have the border turn red when I'm recording, very helpful and reassuring.
so i use the a7c and it has a headphone jack... its under the bottom flap, right beside usb c port. Is there something different in your country?
@@MattBones311 Sony only started putting in a headphone jack after the Sony A6600.
Thanks for the video. It is exactly what I was looking for, since I'm trying to decide whether to buy the Panasonic S5 or the Sony A7c. I like the styling of the A7c better, although that might have something to do with the fact that I owned a Sony a6000 a number of years ago, and it has the same basic form-factor and rangefinder-style ergonomics. I also think the overall image that the Sony produces is nicer - for lack of a better way to describe things, the Sony seems to produce a creamier, richer and smoother image.
On the other hand, I don't like the fact that when you plug in an external HDMI monitor on the Sony, you lose access to the camera's display LCD and whatever touch functions it has, including setting focus point.
Based on your information, here is how I now think of the two cameras:
If you do mostly photography, vlogging or occasional videography where you don't need minute control of all the camera's functions while shooting, then the Sony is your camera.
If you do mostly videography and need good control of the camera's operating parameters and good stills photography capabilities are also important to you, then the S5 is your camera.
There are three things you didn't touch upon that might be important. First, the S5 offers a 96MP high-res JPEG capture option. Second, in some markets, the S5 with kit lens sells for less than the Sony (In Canada, the S5 is $200 cheaper). Lastly, while the range of native L-mount lenses is limited, you can buy an adapter and use whatever third-party lenses fit the adapter.
I am a wedding videographer and using g9s for the last 3 years. A few weeks ago I swtiched to two S5s. In a few months I will replace my other 2 g9s with S5
How is auto focus video experience?
@@beyondhometown I love using AF with my panasonic 50mm. AF is not perfect but perfect enough for me.
This is a really great comparison. I love how you compared them with their best features, which is better for unbiased reviews. I also appreciate the review in the field, rather than in a studio. Thank you for this! 🙂
Thanks, Mandy. 🙏
Awesome to see an Aussie in here, been filming my skate vids with Sony 6400 and the 18 to 105 f4😀😎
just got the a7c a week ago was close between a7c a s5 . awesome video brother 👍
excellent pro review.
Now for wedding work, considering other people are filming the material:
Comparing general Sonys, 6300, 73, the lot, versus a Panasonic G9, the HD on the G9 just eats up the Sonys.
And the post processing is much more forgiving. Hands down whatever the Panasonics simply thrash the competition. Image quality is king, and skin tone always better.
Great video. Definitely high quality editing and the content was well presented. Interested in S5.
I don't ever regret buying the S5 over the Sony. She is a lovely camera
Go for it
Fantastic video - why you gotta convince me to buy the S5?? Don’t you know I have a spending problem 🤣🤣
Do it mate. I can see a "Why I Sold the ZV-E10" video coming up haha.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy hahaha - I’ll start a riot in my comment section. 🤣🤣
@@GeekyNerdyTechy how does the app work with the S5? Can I do the tap to focus thing on the app??
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Yep. The new app has that functionality built into it. The AF works well in One Area + mode for sitting subjects (no pulsing)
@@GeekyNerdyTechy Ok - now I need to look at a few lenses. 🤣🤣
when you did the dual screen of yourself with both cameras I actually preferred the A7C. Im edging that way because my social media work is fast turnaround - its the content the customers need - I don't think they'd notice a post grade. Plus the gyro stab Ive used in a ZV1 and its so good.
PS - Im a Nikon shooter at the moment.
I agree. The highlight roll off, and the coolldr in the a7c seemed a lot better.
2hours of battery life, vectorscope, waveforms, internal lut preview, 10bit 422 internal ..Panasonic iBis..insane color science... you can recover up to 4 stops in raw photos..this camera is litterally upgradeable with xlr module, bat grip for 4hours of non stop use and an ext raw recorder to get 6k raw video. Only downside is af in video nt photo...not to say a7c feels like a toy with it's near to zero grib..put a sony gm 24-70 and after 30mins of use, say hi to pain for me..and s5 is only 1600$ we live in insane times lol
Great comparison, thanks mate!
Thanks for watching :) 👍
Hi mate, awesome video as always.
Btw 9:48 - as far as I know - A7C has a headphone jack too.
If you would compare rolling shutter between those two - is there a huge difference?
Cheers.
The Panasonic is better in terms of rolling shutter. The only good Sony for rolling shutter is the A7SIII/FX3 (and probably some of the other new models). Edit - Thanks for the correction on the headphone jack. For some reason I totally forgot it had one as it's not near the audio input. 🤣
If you are concerned about rolling shutter then it is Panasonic all day long. It is a Panny strength, just like IBIS. I use both Sony and Panasonic and I find that I am often regretting having taken a Sony out, and the IBIS is a big part of that. I don’t think I every regret having chosen a Panasonic. For me, the user experience is simply better.
S5 ! No contest
The big question is: Why hasn't Shane got all the specs and release date on the GH6 yet? :P
Your videos always look great man, regardless of the gear. Maybe it has something to do with the operator?
Thanks Kevin. I can't wait to see what the GH6 has to offer mate. I am a big fan of MFT for a number of reasons. :). The S5 has grown on me a lot lately, I have to admit. I prefer using it over the more expensive Sony cameras I own as well for some reason. Thanks for the kind words. :)
Great video think I'm going s5 as I want the 4k 50/60 miss it for b roll from my Lumix g9 since I switched to sony. Crazy black Friday deals at the moment £1499 for camera, 20-60, official pany battery, grip + moza aircross 2 pro and back pack. Time to say by to my a6400 🤣🤣
Just found your tech channel. Very impressive, intuitive and detailed to perfection. More than just musically talented, obviously more talents than imagined. Always impressed by the quality of the content 👏 again no disappointments .
Thanks so much for the kind words, Cathy! :)
When I think of Panasonic, I just can't get pass the auto focus dilemma. No go! Save some more money and just get the a7IV.
it all depends if you record a lot of video. Because for stills there's absolutely nothing wrong with the focus on the Panasonic. And also, one thing that wasn't mentioned: Panasonic is far superior at face and body tracking in groups. It can track up to 15 targets, where the Sony just doesn't track that many
@@fredwouters It may be able to track 15 targets but there's only one focal plane. Only the person in that focal plane will be in focus. So inevitably you have to prioritize and select a single target.
Dilemma is the right word, I had a G9, best ergonomics ever, loved it but AF was not acceptable, I really would like to get a S5 but I'm afraid I will get the same experience, so I stick to my A9 until Panasonic wakes up
Hey mate, nice to see a balanced, non-biased for vid. How about a a7iv vs Panasonic s5 video if you get the chance. Thanks
900 $ difference tho 🤣
Wish it had the Sony autofocus, but dual native ISO, high res mode and a vastly lower price sold me on the S5. Been eyeing both for a while, and just got an S5 with the 50mm for about $300 less than the lowest listed price for the A7C body only.
*Do you know if the FREE Davinci and Final Cut Pro can do 10 bit 4:2:2?* I’m deciding between the Sony A7IV, Sony A7C and LUMIX for my first camera. Likely a 24mm GM lens. Can you use LUMIX as video/audio for zoom calls?
Panasonic if you're a filmmaker 100% For me as a solo shooter I need good autofocus though, here's to spending a few extra grand on a7siii for AF xD
Excellent review. Kudos to your models, human and canine.
Very informative video. Thank you!
If L-Mount lens isnt not hella expensive, maybe i'll buy S5. But, its not the case.
A7C lens selection both native and third party is really great, they have selection from cheap-expensive, but even the cheap one is great.
S5 body is maybe cheap for what its offer, but combine it with the lens? I dont think many who want to upgrade can afford it even for its f1.8 lens :(
It's super easy to use manual lenses, that and the kit lens works for me. The 1.8 primes are not that expensive. If you want zooms then it does get expensive.
Thanks bro very insightful. You helped my decision. Just bought the s5. Do know anything about filmmaking only that I want to direct a short film. Any thoughts on the lens sizes I should use to film in one room? Thanks in advance
I can't believe I have finally found a video that covers almost everything that I need it to know between these 2 cameras and still I can't decide, damn it. If anyone could help me.. Basically the only thing that wasn't mentioned here is the video quality in low light. As of right now I have the option to buy either of these cameras as openbox in excellent condition, both with their kit lenses 28-60mm. Sony A7c is going for $1750 and the Panasonic S5 is going for $1800, however if I buy the S5 as New there is a promo that also gives me an extra lens, the Panasonic S85, however as new the Panasonic S5 is going for $2200, I just don't know if that S85mm lens is worth it,getting this camera new for $2200 plus that lens seems a really good deal, but so it is getting either of these cameras as openbox in exellent condition for almost the same price, I think anyways. Please help hereeeeee lol
well, I got the S5 with the 20-60mm, the ultrawide is quite spectacular as a camera is only as good as its lenses. The af is not perfect for moving objects like dancers at all, for interviews etc and slow movements it works fine.
I am in the same situation about low light, but more for photography. Which camera did you buy at the end? And what is your experience in low light (video and/or photography)?
@@pascal3180 got the S5. I learned very quick it was all about using the right lights for the job, and obviously the best lense your money can buy.
@@dbgmediainc7506. How is auto focus for video....I ordered S5 because long term usage and good grip..Also 4k 60p for this camera is great. Only concern about auto focus thing, which I have seen enough of negativity in youtube 😁... Wanted to check with people who done recent purchase....thanks for insight..
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I find that there's plenty of options to minimize issues with autofocus. Once you play around with these settings enough, you will most likely see what works for you and when it works better. I don't have any complaints about ir really, also the better the lense,the better the autofocus works in my opinion. If anything I think the autofocus minor issues arise when filming fast moving objects, or getting something in and out frame too quick.
Which Canon camera lands in the same price range of Panasonic S5?
S5 vs A7C the better values represent the S5
Live Composite Mode Yes vs No
Viewfinder Magnification 0.74x vs 0.59x
LCD Screen Resolution 1.840k dotsvs 922k dots
Max Mech. Shutter 1/8000svs 1/4000s
Color Depth 25.1vs 25.0
Pixel Shift High-Res Mode Yes (96 MP)vs No
4K Photo Mode Yesvs No
6K Photo Mode Yes vs No
Focus Bracketing Yes vs No
Focus Stacking Yes vs No
Post Focus Mode Yes vs No
Storage Slot 2vs 1
Max Video Bit rate 200mbps
vs 100mbps
Min Focus Sensitivity EV -6 vs EV -4
great list, thanks. And the awesome 20-60mm lens is a bargain!
Bravo,ottimo video,mi hai chiarito tanti dubbi 👍
Hi, it all sounds great, but, I don't shoot video! so in your opinion what camera is the best for still photography? Thanks again mate!
Thank you, very useful comparision.
I am a Pany boy (M43) but I really like that A7C. The small size is the main reason and FF the other. I will get one next year and use it for low light shooting.
Personally I’d suggest looking more into the s5 if your a pany boy. With the systems being so similar from your m4/3 camera, colour science being similar and general design philosophy will make the camera far more easy and simple to swap between the 2.
I wouldn’t stress much about the size of the a7C, if you are buying a ff camera for low light, through out the idea of small size. You can’t beat physics, the lenses will be huge either way and the slightly larger size of the s5 will be slight more ergonomic which can actually make it feel lighter.
Not to meantion the s5 is also rocking a more recent sensor, from what I’ve heard it handles low light a little better and it also has dual native iso, so you will get cleaner results from the s5.
They’re both brilliant cameras but that’s just my 2c
@@jockturner1547 Thank you. I have decided not to go with the A7C in the end. This is because I purchased a GX9 and didn't like the experience I had with it (mostly the lack of joystick). So I prefer not to go that way.
@@laurentyarp514 that’s fair! I also own a gx9. Brilliant little camera that one 😍
Fantastic comparison. I would also consider the level of support (i.e. firmware updates) though this is about the companies rather than the cameras themselves. I think Panasonic tends to be more "generous" in this regard.
Could you do one on the S5 vs the A7IV? They seem a lot more matched this time around so it’d be very interesting
@Jerimiah Cook that is true but the A7IV is in the S5’s spec range so it’s interesting to see that comparison too! Someone may see good autofocus and cheaper lenses as worth the extra $800 since the lenses will be cheaper in the long run, some may prefer the price and stabilization of the Panasonic as well as its pro features in video
@@Alexrocks1253 with cashback here the s5 cost only like 1300 € :D
@@benediktmeyer that’s a great price especially considering the import tax usually raises all camera prices!
very fair video. nice one.
You mention the amount of lenses as a plus for the Sony in comparison to Panasonic. But you forget to mention that yes Sony has more options, but there's quite a bunch of other brands that produce L-mount lenses as well. There may not be as many for the L-mount, but all types of the most used sizes are represented now.
Absolutely. I just reviewed all of the S series primes. Since they are now fully available, it makes the L mount decision far easier.
Over 225 L mount lens r available now :)
I am trying to decide between A7C with the Sony 24-105 and the S5 with the Lumix 24-105, for landscape and portrait photography, with sharpness and auto-focus accuracy (not speed) being the main criteria. Is the Sony 24-105 sharper than the Lumix 24-105, as the dxomark scores suggest ?
Those are two lenses I haven't used on either system sorry. I do know the Sony GM 24-70 version 2 is supposed to be hard to beat.
Is the micro hdmi not down to the amount of real estate in these fun-sized cams?
S5+sigma50mmdgdn or a7c+50mmgm1.4 ? Travel and family photography. The image from s5 its amazing
Thank you. Panasonic it is.
I could film the two cameras side by side for us have an idea of the size.
I always love Lumix
Dzięki. Pomogłeś mi. Wybieram S5. ;-)
I'm glad you mentioned lens selection, it's kind of crucial if you're going for AF. Also, if you plan to do photography as well, Sony is the clear winner...
Well... the S5 is a good stills camera as well (notwithstanding the differences that Shane mentioned in the video).
I have both and i mostly shoot photos on the S5...no anti-aliasing filter, high res modes, great time lapse modes...and my vintage lenses just seem to work better....blasting away in auto everything at 10fps? yeah then the Sony is better.
@@robertwlittlejohn Sure, if you use manual lenses auto focus doesn't matter. I started out using vintage lenses for everything from landscapes to sports, but I appreciate AF when it comes to paid jobs like events and weddings.
@@santosovideo no the vintage lenses actually look better on the S5...no idea why, maybe the lack of antialias, it's definitely sharper when that's what I'm after. Nothing to do with autofocus as it's fine for stills on the S5, it just doesn't have the burst speed of the A7C. I'd never shoot paid work on the sony as I'm always shooting video as well, unless it's instructional/educational where you can let the AF do the work and 8 bit doesn't matter.
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I need help on deciding, is the S5 not having a low pass filter a problem for TVC production camera?
I am not too sure about that, but most of the Lumix range is Netflix approved (or they use the same sensors in the cameras that are not).
Im a panasonic S1 owner so no bias in this question but isn’t the Sony A7III more comparable?
People want a flipout screen
not in terms of price range. you see, youtubers made the prices of the s5 tank because they don't know how to use the Area+ autofocus mode, and they keep running the s5 with non native lens, so they told everyone the camera can't autofocus. now it can be found for a similar price to the a7c. the a7iii is way more expensive
@@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse nothing to apologize for muffins
Thanks for the video, Shane. As an S5 user, I always get envious of the AF-C and lens selection on Sony cameras (heck, I even still own an a6500 and an a6000 when I need AF). Does the a7C allow one to use AF-S in video? Or is it only AF-C / manual focus when shooting video?
Do you feel you have a good handle on the S5’s focus system? I think there’s a video by Luca Bono (not sure I got his name right) about needing to confirm focus tracking by manually tapping the box over the intended subject. Seemed like a lot of the S-series users didn’t know about that. Not that it was a match for Sony’s AF-C, even then, but seemed to help a lot.
Lens of lumix is more expensive than sony
which camera were you using to shoot this video?
The Panasonic S5 for the S5 part and the A7C for that part.
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Is that woman in the video that chick from MAFS?... I can’t think what’s her name is atm... btw I just purchased the A7C last night in the Black Friday Sales from JB... the website says I should receive the camera in January... gawd I hope not.
Yes, Sony is the one!
The choice is easy, Lumix S5 all day long. Had both, only have the S5 now. Sony feels like a cheap Chinese knock off, build quality and grip are awful, missing a front control wheel, EVF is a joke, and menus are probably the worst around, you won't enjoy it as a creative joy to use.