Panasonic Lumix S5 II Review: BETTER THAN SONY!

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    Chelsea & Tony Northrup review the new Panasonic S5 II camera, a full-frame mirrorless camera with 24 megapixels, 2 SD card slots, and full-width 4k video at 30 frames per second! It has a phase detect autofocus system (PDAF), which is Panasonic's first... but is it good enough to keep up with Sony, Canon, and Nikon cameras? YES!! At least in some circumstances. Panasonic's PDAF system definitely let us down in other circumstances.
    0:00 Introduction
    1:11 L-Mount Lens Selection
    1:43 Video Autofocus
    2:51 Adapting Canon Lenses to L-Mount
    4:11 Subject & Focus Tracking
    4:46 6K Video for Horizontal & Vertical Crops
    5:42 Reviewing/Scrubbing Video
    5:57 Low-Light Video
    7:01 Rolling Shutter
    7:40 Stabilization
    8:45 Sports
    9:55 Wildlife
    13:27 Portraits
    14:51 96 Megapixel High-Res Mode
    15:42 Summary
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  • @CodyStoner20
    @CodyStoner20 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Just a heads up, the Boost I.S. setting is primarily meant for stationary shots, like when you want it to look like it's on a tripod. Moving the camera with Boost I.S. on can cause jumps in the image.

    • @ashransaid
      @ashransaid ปีที่แล้ว

      Good to know. Thanks

    • @doghouseriley4732
      @doghouseriley4732 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ashransaid Would have been good to know from the "review".

  • @kbarrett1844
    @kbarrett1844 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    As a former LUMIX shooter, I am very happy to see that Panasonic finally listened and delivered. Imagine if PDAF was incorporated in the original S5? Where would they be now?
    Panasonic has the deep pockets to claw back all of that lost market-share from the past five years, it seems that they now have the will to do so. This is good news.

    • @angeloplayforone
      @angeloplayforone ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Do you think Panasonic can get the people back?

    • @kbarrett1844
      @kbarrett1844 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@angeloplayforone - Some but not all. I think they have a viable position in the marketplace, but (IMO) there isn’t a compelling argument (yet) to ditch an entire system in favor of LUMIX.

    • @TheAdventureSchmuck
      @TheAdventureSchmuck ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@kbarrett1844 Obviously, you are talking about photography -- because Lumix has been the only one to buy other than Blackmagic cameras for shooting films on Cameras under $2000.

    • @raalaa121
      @raalaa121 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      They do it deliberately I'm fairly sure they're a syndicate. This year will be Panasonic's year, next year Sony, then Canon then Fuji they share the profits and fleece us gear heads making us change systems and fork out money.

    • @bluecheese20401
      @bluecheese20401 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Angelo PlayforOne they lost me. Shame loved my g9 but it couldn't focus anything like even the a7iii

  • @BryanSchultzitis
    @BryanSchultzitis ปีที่แล้ว +55

    What you said about the lenses is part of the reason I love panasonic as a camera brand: they're extremely thoughtful with their design. Making all of the primes roughly the same weight so you don't have to rebalance a gimbal, making them all focus breathing corrected - you can tell they really had the end user in mind.

  • @kevindiaz3459
    @kevindiaz3459 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Been saying a long time that it was so weird that Panasonic was so far behind with their AF. Glad to see they are finally getting it! Happy for the Panasonic users out there.

    • @ourtvchannel
      @ourtvchannel ปีที่แล้ว

      Panasonic will be very uphappy - they own cameras that are goijng to be worth even less now. The discounting has already started on non phase detect models

  • @tbfam569
    @tbfam569 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’ve been Panasonic user for 10 years and I can tell you one thing, their product lasts! My rice cooker still works like a charm! Okay, will try this s5 ii out!

  • @artistjoh
    @artistjoh ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I look forward to when the phase update moves to the MFT cameras. Not interested in L-mount, but a GH6 M2, G9 M2, or preferably a GH5 M3. There is going to be lots of Lumix camera updates over the next year or two

    • @spyder000069
      @spyder000069 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I dropped panasonic because of the issues with my GH5 and moved to the R7 and its been great. I would love to find a new use for my MFT lenses but not interested in the OM-1. If panasonic can bring phase detect and animal eye detection to MFT I'd give them another try.

  • @LanceNotHiding
    @LanceNotHiding ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can I say, i love that you B/W the out of focus shots, that makes it so much easier to watch through.

  • @Subhrajits
    @Subhrajits ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Tony and Chelsea. Happy new year. I have been following your channel for a long time and it has been a pleasure. I have been planning to start some analog medium format photography, but I am not sure which system to go for. I have used Canon AE-1 and Canon QL17, but have no experience with medium format except a Holga. My primary interest is street and documentary photography, so Mamiya RB series is not an option (too heavy to carry around). I am not sure if I should opt for a TLR like Yashica MAT124 (I checked some Rolleiflex cameras, but they have become quite expensive lately) or should go for Hasselblad 500 series (maybe 500 C/M). It would be really helpful if you guys can do a review of some medium format options for street photography. I also looked at Mamiya 7, but it is almost as expensive as the Hasselblad 500 C/M (with the Zeiss 80mm f/2.8), if not more. Thanks in advance and have a wonderful 2023.

  • @skyrunr
    @skyrunr ปีที่แล้ว +12

    What an exciting camera, but it looks huge next to the Sony. As a (Nikon) hobbyist, I'd really like to see this compared with a Z6II, A74, and R6II. Specifically, each with the best F4 mid-zoom, and a separate video with the best 70-300mm option, and then one on the best/fastest/affordable 20mmf1.x option. This is the market that is IMO feeling a little left out in reviews and options.
    PS Watching Sony's SOOC colors (from every respected reviewer) is just comical, and having tried 4 bodies under $3,000, including the A7IV, their JPG's are even worse amongst the top three. Nikon still has the nicest JPG's that are the closest match to their RAW images.

  • @Ydkoll
    @Ydkoll ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Tony and Chelsea, thank you for an amazing review! Your summary was very useful. And for a camera priced sub 2k this is definitely a first time buyer's pick. Ok so there are a couple nit picking things that turn me down on this camera but thats ok. I personally like stills for fast moving objects. Is there any word on the Nikon Z8 or the Z7iii?

    • @Ydkoll
      @Ydkoll ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bbasleigh6149 The fact that anyone has access to 3rd party lens is a big +. However I'm a little hesitant about their "all new phase detect AF." The question for me is does one go for the new s5ii or should one settle for the Canon R6 for the same price? Or you could spend five hundred more for the R6ii. I guess people should wait a month or two and wait for what Nikon will announce. Supposedly Nikon has the Z8 and Z6iii hiding.Being that I am more of a stills kinda guy I think I'll wait and see until spring.

    • @Ydkoll
      @Ydkoll ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bbasleigh6149 what do you mean?

  • @georgehudetz1233
    @georgehudetz1233 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    FWIW, Panasonic has a "AF ON-NEAR" function that can be assigned to a button (including one of the buttons on the Sigma 150-600) that will force the camera to choose the subject in the foreground (i.e., the eagle instead of the trees). Of course, it's better if the camera would just track the eagle using generic AF-ON, but there is a work-around.

    • @superstringsbro
      @superstringsbro ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow. That’s a pretty big feature that they missed

  • @glen-draketoolworks7186
    @glen-draketoolworks7186 ปีที่แล้ว

    Assuming that the S5II has the same near, far, and AF limit functions as the S5, I'm just wondering if you utilized near shift or set AF-limits to correct the AF background grab on your bird shots.

  • @NicolasAlexanderOtto
    @NicolasAlexanderOtto ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seriously this might be one of the best camera reviews for Video shooters I have seen on this platform. I am a regular viewer, but here you really outdid yourselves.

  • @thanyawong
    @thanyawong ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I may not get your point. But I do not understand why you compare Panasonic S5ii to Sony A7iii which is very old model. You should compare it to Sony A7IV or Canon R6ii.

  • @ChrisTopheRaz
    @ChrisTopheRaz ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It’s important to note that Panasonic has remained consistently dialed in to cinematic video rather than sports or nature. That can be looked at as negative or positive, depending on the buyer. However, it is nice to see that they are moving forward. I still have much admiration for my Lumix S1, originally had no interest in the S5 series but maybe now I do.

  • @YaYousef5
    @YaYousef5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I SUPER appreciate you showing portrait shots with files on the computer! That way we can actually see if the camera gets the eye in focus. I bought an S5 but ended up returning it because it notoriously front focused on eye lashes, eye brows and glasses rims. It looks like the S5 II is better at this, but is still missing focus.
    Based on your results in the portrait section, it looks like I'll be happier with Sony or Canon because I mainly do portraits.

    • @unbroken1010
      @unbroken1010 ปีที่แล้ว

      You obsess too much

    • @YaYousef5
      @YaYousef5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@unbroken1010 How so? I want in focus photos. My Fujifilm X-T3 and X-T4 give me that. I wanted to move to full frame, so I bought an S5 and returned it because it wouldn't get the eye in focus.

    • @chcomes
      @chcomes ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@YaYousef5 I think it is you who should decide what you want. On the other hand, basing purchasing decisions on videos of pre-releases is quite hurried. I will wait a few months.

    • @YaYousef5
      @YaYousef5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chcomes TRUE! I'm also going to watch to see what cameras TH-camrs are using in the 6-12 months. Will Sony shooters switch to Panasonic? That will tell me all I need to know.

    • @user-ik3bk4fj8w
      @user-ik3bk4fj8w ปีที่แล้ว

      You need a Canon bro

  • @calincharles
    @calincharles ปีที่แล้ว +4

    do you feel it's a fair comparison between a camera just released to a camera that is now almost 5 years old with 5 year old tech?
    genuine question. I feel like it'd be better to compare to the A7IV and then mention the price difference as a legitimate factor in deciding what to buy.

  • @mateuszmrowiec4265
    @mateuszmrowiec4265 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing review. Thank you for your hard work creating this video!!

  • @ecmjr
    @ecmjr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice B/W to Color to differentiate what's on Focus and What's Not... Nice!

  • @sidvicious3129
    @sidvicious3129 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ah...... That title should have had a question mark instead of an exclamation point. I think that the correct comparison should have been the A7IV, but I understand why you did the A7III, due to the price, but it's an unfair comparison because we are comparing Panasonic's latest tech to Sony's very, very old technology. The question is how this Panasonic would have compared overall to the A7IV, that's what should have been tested if you are comparing from video to stills.
    I think this is huge for Panasonic and it's customers and it shows that they are committed to their customers and this is very impressive considering that the fought PDAF for so long. I think this is the right move for them and their customers. Panasonic offers so many more features for video than anyone at this price point and that means anyone. Put the fine tune touches on these models with autofocus, which they will, and Panasonic will have an absolute beast on their hands.
    The comparison to the A7IV, needed to be made as this would have given the viewers a fair sense of where Panasonic stands now and how far they need to go to get there. So based off of your test, this camera isn't there yet and Canon and Sony have nothing to fear at this immediate point, but the S5IIX with its ability to allow for USB C hard drive recording and it's other video features, now that's game changer for this model and I see that model being fully rigged out. brand-new

    • @roanlo1213
      @roanlo1213 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, the S5 ii should've been compared to the A7IV, XH2S, and R6ii. It's really squaring up to be a great camera and will probably take many customers that have been contemplating the A7IV away from Sony and over to Panasonic.

  • @AguilaDeOnix85
    @AguilaDeOnix85 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can work with it on wildlife. I'm used to Panasonic enough from G9 in MFT and enjoy the colors and auto focus is already adequate for me. I love my MFT gear and will keep it but I would love an S1RII and one or two more long telephoto lenses as my first FF. The S5II sounds good for my snake shots in the summer/fall.

  • @DynamixWarePro
    @DynamixWarePro ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My prediction is after this camera is released, at some point Panasonic might bring out a firmware update in future to improve the AF. It is much better than Panasonic has had, but since this is the first time Panasonic has used PDAF, I could tell they might be behind in how good it is compared to Sony and Canon and it will take time for Panasonic to catch up. I am thinking of upgrading my GH6 to one of these. I like the features of the GH6, but I need better low light and better 4K video quality than I am getting with the GH6. I also want to take more photos, mostly of static subjects like buildings, plants, landscapes etc... so super accurate AF isn't a priority for me at the moment.

    • @spritual_enlightenment
      @spritual_enlightenment ปีที่แล้ว +2

      >Panasonic might bring out a firmware update in future to improve the AF.
      I'm pretty sure they will come up a firmware update at the end of this year for improved AF performance.

    • @davidrehm9681
      @davidrehm9681 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You have a GH6 and...
      You need better 4k video quality? What is better?
      And better low light?
      The GH6 does really well in low light. Sure it's not a SONY in low light, but I can crank up the ISO pretty high and still have superb results.

    • @DynamixWarePro
      @DynamixWarePro ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidrehm9681 I found the image quality from the GH6 looks a bit soft, like its in camera noise reduction that can't be lowered below 0, is smoothing out fine details too much.
      I use 3 lenses a Panasonic 9mm f/1.7, Olympus 12-40mm f/2.8 PRO and Olympus 60mm f/2.8 Macro and never noticed any issues with softness on them before with the Olympus lenses until I put them on my GH6 but I know the 12-40 is an older lens and can suffer diffraction sooner at narrower apertures.
      My GH5 has sharper video, but it does not have as color and dynamic range compared to GH6. Even exposed properly (42 IRE midtone grey on V-Log) with dynamic range boost on, you get more highlight detail but more noise.
      Photo quality is sharper but I can't get consistently low noise photos like I can with my GH5.

    • @SewTubular
      @SewTubular ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Take a look at Richard Wong's "Who is the New King of Autofocus?" review. I would say that the new S5II AF is behind Sony, but slightly ahead of Canon. You should also check out Richard Wong's "Gimbal like IBIS?" review. S5II is the front-runner with walking movement and "tripod like" stability. ( beats everything )

  • @coachoflife8436
    @coachoflife8436 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As much as i want to love this camera... it was a HUGE dissapointment hearing about huge crop in 60p.... Autofocus is all great and dendi, but it is not an innovation, they just caught up to aready basic standart technology, nothing special. Aslo as i understand 1080p is not oversampled, it is skipping or binning? Also i cant understand, and i mean REALLY cant understand 5iix model, all this features should have been in s5ii from the start, if i pay panasonic for 200$ upgrade, price will be the same, but i will not get streaming, ssd recording etc??? SO price for s5ii and s5iiX will be identical but with less features even after 200$ upgrade? Also i have to wait for may and couple more month for retail? P.S. in my country i can get a7siii brand new for 500$ more than panasonic s5 mark one... and a7iV cost the same as panasonic s5 mark one... to get first version for 2.000$ i must buy it only second hand... so i am torn apart and little if not largly dissapointed... do not know how to behave, as much as i want to buy s5ii, but i want X model features and i do not want to wait, also for 500$ more i can get a7siii with 4k 120 without so large crop and autofocus in 240 fps... Damn, Panasonic, why!?...

  • @grahamcorley8156
    @grahamcorley8156 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To be honest, I'm getting ultra sharp eyes with my canon rp and adapted EF85 1.8 at a fraction of the cost.

  • @itsGAMiE
    @itsGAMiE ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm a lumix shooter and I've been using the GH5S for years now. I think this camera is definitely a step up although I feel this is an unfair comparison especially when there's a more recent camera in this category from Sony. I guess we just wanted to keep our new camera in the spotlight. Anyway great video as usual

    • @TonyAndChelsea
      @TonyAndChelsea  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I discussed this, but the newer cameras are 25% more, so it's really not a fair comparison. But yeah, those more expensive cameras are solidly better, which we say in the video.

    • @itsGAMiE
      @itsGAMiE ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TonyAndChelsea True you touched on it towards the end of the video. Would you recommend the S5 mk ii for product videos. I currently use my GH5s and I’m thinking of an upgrade

    • @scottslotterbeck3796
      @scottslotterbeck3796 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​It's got a larger sensor.

  • @dannoringer
    @dannoringer ปีที่แล้ว

    As always I appreciate your truthful throughtful analytical reviews. Thank you !!!

  • @kostasssss
    @kostasssss 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent review! Did you notice moire patterns on the s5ii due to the lack of AA filter to the sensor?And if so is it going to be a problem on professional work?

  • @adds5361
    @adds5361 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well done Panasonic, you're back in the game and at a great price point giving your competitors a run for their money. Huge thanks to Chelsea and Tony, fab video!

    • @scottslotterbeck3796
      @scottslotterbeck3796 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love do documentaries and interviews. I've been happy with my GH5. An improvement in autofocus would be welcome. I just usually do static shots.

  • @phillipmaguire4671
    @phillipmaguire4671 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a mostly video shooter, I have been using Panasonic for quite a while now, and have always liked them. Reliable.

  • @amanandapan9635
    @amanandapan9635 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great to see you spend so much time on photograph review. The shortest photograph review on S5M2 is just 30 second.

  • @hervebellenger7092
    @hervebellenger7092 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello Tony, regarding the pricing it is ok to compare this new camera with the Alpha III but I think it would have been even more interesting to make a comparison with the Alpha IV more expensive but with an up to date technology.

  • @geonerd
    @geonerd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A nice camera!
    I like the (working!) 96mp interlaced mode!
    Wish it had a faster sensor read speed. I shoot weather and would love a nice fast e-shutter for lightning. (When are we gonna get a proper global shutter???)

  • @Florida4Kchannel
    @Florida4Kchannel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why compare a 2018 Sony with the 2023 s5ii? You should compare it with the Sony a7cii.

  • @scottdarvill8132
    @scottdarvill8132 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was hoping you could help me decide between the Lumix S5 and the new S5 II.
    For context, I’m starting out with photography and I’ll be going to film school soon, so I want to buy a hybrid camera that performs great for both stills and video, that will also grow with me as I develop.
    I’ve found the S5 with a lens for £1400 and the new S5 II is about £2300 once you factor the lens in. The S5 has almost all the functionality I think I’ll need and at this price it’s a great deal but I’m unsure if I should save up a bit longer and get the newer version with all the updates (i.e. better autofocus and unlimited video recording at 4k etc). Which camera would you recommend buying in my situation? Is the S5 at £1400 too good to pass up or should I hold out for the S5 II? Loved the review and thanks in advance!

  • @rayjenkins2754
    @rayjenkins2754 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your more complete testing of the camera - in particular, its inability to keep the flying eagle in focus when a tree is behind it. For many a nature shooter that's a major foible ! Hopefully this will be remedied in a future firmware update. Or that it will be fixed by the time Panasonic releases a new / replacement for the G9. I 'm a still shooter & would love to have my near perfect G9 having a flawless phase detect A F system. Hear that Panasonic - I'm saving up ! Me & my Leica 100 ~ 400mm lens are waiting.

  • @2warwick
    @2warwick 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for your review. One unique feature this camera has, that Nikon, Canon, Sony, Fujifilm, Olympus don't have, is aperture bracketing (depth-of-field bracketing). The camera can bracket 3 or 5 shots, with one-stop variation each side of your selected aperture. I think this is great when you're aiming for the shallowest possible depth-of-field but want to automatically take a slightly stopped-down photo for 'insurance', just in case the selected depth of field is too shallow.

  • @JohnDrummondPhoto
    @JohnDrummondPhoto ปีที่แล้ว

    When Tony held the Canon lens near his face at 3:21 and said "I'm going to try this out and see how it handles autofocus", the S5 II jumped focus to the lens even though Tony's eyes and most of his face were still visible. I don't think that was intentional.

  • @MichaelWTurner
    @MichaelWTurner ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video. The 6k segment was enlightening. I didn't understand the what ratio it shoots in. Thank you.

  • @EternalMedia
    @EternalMedia ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm still hoping that Nikon will have a "Lumix S5 II X moment" and catapult themselves back to their glory days. I hear they are developing new sensors for themselves.

    • @goodvibespromo42069
      @goodvibespromo42069 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they kind of are with their latest mirrorless cameras.

  • @jonnyraul3166
    @jonnyraul3166 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for allowing me to see (and listen) in 1440p (and 4K on the tv).

  • @davec9960
    @davec9960 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review. I have the Panasonic S1 and this definitely makes me want to upgrade!

  • @wmclt5588
    @wmclt5588 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting camera. I planning on photography as a new hobby instead of using my iPhone , so I have a questions. How suitable is this camera for landscape astrophotography at this price point. Is 24 megapixels paired with F1.4 - 1.8; 24-50 mm lens a workable combination. A Canon R5 or Sony A7 R5 is within my budget but I would like not to spend that amount initially. Enjoy your videos!!! Thanks

  • @dr_squirrel
    @dr_squirrel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this very comprehensive review

  • @camerasutra247
    @camerasutra247 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a great review. I am going to make a video today hopefully it is OK to reference your video for folks to come back to as there is some great information about the Panasonic achievements they have actually showcased in this new body.

  • @adrielcosta2509
    @adrielcosta2509 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm going to invest in my first full frame and I'm completely undecided between the Sony A7SIII and the Lumix S5IIX. Sony seems very reliable to me, but I have doubts mainly due to the lack of updates and also because it is an older camera. On the other hand, I have an amazing recent camera with a great price, but which raises questions about Rolling Shutter and 60 fps cropping. What would I recommend? I've been in this cruel doubt for months! 😅

  • @timgurr1876
    @timgurr1876 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video. Thanks. Panasonic seems to have really improved. What I would like to know is how do the individual frames in video look for pulling out still shots. It’s nice to shoot video then be able to get a “decent” still photo. I’m not a professional so looking from a standpoint of decent family photos. Thanks.

  • @iiAhamd
    @iiAhamd ปีที่แล้ว

    How are you not using caps on the bottom of the lenses? Wouldn’t that get dust and dirt in the glass?

  • @thehobnob
    @thehobnob ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Looks like a great all-rounder!
    I wonder if it falls back to contrast AF over certain ISOs (or under certain lux levels of light). Might explain the high-ISO bokeh pulsing.

    • @AllThingsFilm1
      @AllThingsFilm1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think you made a good point. I noticed there wasn't really noticeable pulsing until 12,800 ISO. Which, as a filmmaker, I would rarely if ever shoot at such a high ISO. The S5ii is looking like a game changer. Especially for the price point and for Panasonic in general.

    • @mediamannaman
      @mediamannaman ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AllThingsFilm1 ... And if you ARE a filmmaker, Panasonic will introduce the S5 IIx in a few months that has even more video features and is only about $200 more than the S5II.

    • @loudmotion5639
      @loudmotion5639 ปีที่แล้ว

      It seems to be a mixture of both but is using more the DFD in darker situations, I guest because dfd is rated at lower EV compared to PDAF since pdaf uses a metric of how light touches the sensor to know if things are in focus or not.

  • @suchanderreddy
    @suchanderreddy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It can’t shoot full frame 4K @ 60 fps. What is the workaround, Firmware update?

  • @steveschnetzler5471
    @steveschnetzler5471 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally, but I will wait for a few firmware upgrades before upgrading from my S5. Thanks.

  • @edi18912
    @edi18912 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    HI
    I currently shoot with an older fuji Xt3 and im looking to upgrade. Im trying to decide between 2 full frame cameras. The new Lumix s5iix or the older Sony A7siii.
    My use case is video only and im currently focused on realestate videos and some weddings, client work ect.
    My main concern is for filming real estate in 4k60. What would look better a7siii 4k60 or the lumix s5ii 4k60 cropped? Most high end videographers in the real estate industry use a7siii. Taking everything into account, noise, low light, Dynamic range, image quality ect which is better.
    My goal to get the best quality for 4k 60 video.
    Thank you

  • @workingwiththelight3119
    @workingwiththelight3119 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You should compare to Sony a7IV. I know the price is different but I would either go for the new a7IV instead of old model.

    • @TonyAndChelsea
      @TonyAndChelsea  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah it's an easy choice if you're willing to spend the extra $500; the a7 IV is an all-around better camera.

    • @GaryBox
      @GaryBox ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes hardly a proper comparison to compare to a 4 year old Sony that can be purchased new far cheaper than the Panasonic. The a7iv is more expensive than the Panasonic but not by much and by time you start buying lenses the Sony system will probably be cheaper.

    • @fouuladvand48
      @fouuladvand48 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TonyAndChelsea So you did it to make the Panasonic look good. That looks like a paid review! You can also compare the new A9III coming out in February with a Canon Analog Camera and tell everybody to buy it. Doesn't make sense. Panasonic has to be keeping up with the recent models of all brands. If they can't, so it is their problem!

  • @pauloancarvalho
    @pauloancarvalho ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice job testing EF lenses. Looks like we have a bright future for these new Panasonic cameras. Can you try the Sigma 18-35 f/1.8 af on S5 II? Thank you!

    • @EmilWilkens
      @EmilWilkens ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would you want to see an APS-C lens made for Canon, adapted and tested on a full frame LUMIX?

    • @EmilWilkens
      @EmilWilkens ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pauloancarvalho i see, but if the usecase is super35 / crop mode, why not just buy a camera made to work natively with that? Maybe im missing something?

  • @mcallbee
    @mcallbee 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tony, which camera are you using to create this video? At 8:50 the outdoor looks like an episode of This Old House! Great!

  • @csc-photo
    @csc-photo ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Congrats to Panasonic, nice update! Re: focus breathing, Nikon Z also addresses this optically, without losing pixels. Although I realize we only highlight Nikon’s “negatives” here…

    • @phelanwolf6747
      @phelanwolf6747 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well they basically said that with this camera Panasonic caught up to the older Z cameras in terms of AF but yes they neglegted to say that the Z glass is also focus breathing corrected. Tamron is also making focus breathing corrected lenses, probably more lensmakers are going that direction as well.

    • @skydj100
      @skydj100 ปีที่แล้ว

      I realized that too.

  • @fansofER
    @fansofER ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Panasonic is back! Im hoping for a new m43 cam with PDAF. GH6X please!

  • @YanFries
    @YanFries ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You forgot to add the fact s5 ii can use imported LUTS in photo mode too. Meaning you basically have Fuji film sims in a full frame camera!

  • @alexanderje8336
    @alexanderje8336 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really do not understand why you'd make this comparison instead of with the A7IV. There are plenty of discounts on that, making it just slightly more expensive. The new S5II won't get discounts for a long time, a year at least. So why this comparison? Getting the a7iii will be wayyy cheaper in practice.

  • @lukepn6420
    @lukepn6420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very impressed about this camera. Just ordered S5 II and Iam waiting for my one. Currently I am switching from Fuji x-s10 / Viltrox 75mm/85mm to this camera. Saw a lot of reviews/image samples and this is really amazing product which can deliver outstading quality for my photography portraits! I do not regret this order I just cant wait to get it and start creating new images:)

  • @allenkoz
    @allenkoz ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this review! After doing some additional research, think I’m going to buy the Lumix S5 ii camera body. I’m headed on a 10-day Colorado trip where I will be vlogging, photographing the topography/landscapes, etc. along with the interior of a mountain lodge. If you were me, what would be a good all-around lens option for this- say under $1000? I’m looking for something relatively compact. I appreciate any advice. Thank you so much!

  • @YetiOnGuitar
    @YetiOnGuitar ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for all the work on this review! Boost IS is intended for locked off style "tripod-like" shots only where the frame isn't intended to change. Should not be on for moving IBIS tests.

  • @jaymills1720
    @jaymills1720 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Leaving an xt4 and wanting to move to a7iv or S5II for hybrid. Thoughts?

    • @ronphillips7952
      @ronphillips7952 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you're leaning towards the video side I'd probably consider the S5ii, if stills the A7iv. I shoot an A7iv and S5, and other than the occasion focus issue much prefer the S5 for video. The S5ii eliminates my only criticism of the original S5.

    • @jaymills1720
      @jaymills1720 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ronphillips7952 any video examples comparing ?

  • @ytr8989
    @ytr8989 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you still have the camera, could you test it against the Nikon Z6 II?

  • @peterreber7671
    @peterreber7671 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now we wait for a zillion YT videos with "I switched to Panasonic" in the title.

  • @AlloffroadAu
    @AlloffroadAu ปีที่แล้ว

    would nice if it had some build in ND for video, still strange that non of the DSLR has it

  • @paravisual
    @paravisual ปีที่แล้ว

    Are any other good EF adapters except Sigma for Panasonic FF (Viltrox, Comlite)?

  • @rodbrittain6772
    @rodbrittain6772 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish you had made the comparison with the Sony a7iv so as to compare the capabilities of the latest models instead models around the same price. Thanks

  • @TedTremendous
    @TedTremendous ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the S5 II work with the hot shoe audio adapter DMWXLR1?

  • @datdudeinred
    @datdudeinred ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For a first try at phase detect. It's quite good. 👏
    I can't even imagine what they can do with s1h mk2. With cfexpress type b cards, faster processor, faster scanning sensor & improved af it can easily compete with Sony. Maybe not a1 speed but af speed could be there.

    • @avarmadillo
      @avarmadillo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. Think---most people are comparing it to the A7iv--which has the AF capability of Sony's flagship A1--the best AF they have. I think the S5II compares very well. Very well!!!

  • @flagger2020
    @flagger2020 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ek, I brought a very discounted S5 November.. I thought Pana was unhappy with the S5 vs S1 etc should have checked rumor websites.. Anyway I got it as a backup to my Sigma fp and fp/L ie L mount camera.. took it out after 2am on a snowy night to get scenic shots and it's ibis worked well down to between 1/5 to 1/4 second compared to my my Oly M1. So if Ibis is improved there should be no complaints. Also high ISO stills were good, again if the newer camera is improved even better. I know they were lent gear by Panasonic, but they still tested a Canon lens, it's a shame they didn't test any Sigma lens (other than 150-600?). My S5 shines with the Sigma primes on contrast focus, I hope the new camera PD focus works well with Sigma lens too, if so people should consider the full range of lens available.

  • @willie3528
    @willie3528 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was about to pull the trigger on the Nikon z 6ii and then, yesterday I saw an ad for this camera. The ad said this was the best video camera in its class. So I started doing my research and I was on the fence between the two cameras. I found this video on TH-cam by chance and after watching it, I was sold. So I will be giving myself a nice present and will also be subscribing to your channel. Thank you.

  • @MrJapanforce
    @MrJapanforce ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YES. Perfect. Proud Lumix user since 2008. Never looked back. Panasonic re the leaders on video.

  • @renestaempfli1071
    @renestaempfli1071 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My first impression, it's a nice video centric camera at a low price point and 5 year old technology.

  • @Vedrajrm
    @Vedrajrm ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why was it compared to the a73? Not 4?

  • @stefchenko009
    @stefchenko009 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would y'all say this camera is like a Leica SL2-S but affordable? (asking cus I really want to buy a SL2-S lol)

  • @Tvideo06
    @Tvideo06 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to purchase for street/Portrait pictures as my wife love outdoor pictures, what lens should I buy with this camera?

  • @gaetanomaximus8650
    @gaetanomaximus8650 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Too late for me now. I bought a Nikon z6ii back in November and I'm stuck with it... but it's awesome. I have no complaints.

  • @valerio_c
    @valerio_c ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How is AF In slowmotion mode 120p ? How it works?

  • @wakeywarrior
    @wakeywarrior ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Looks like they took the fight to Sony. I loved my Lumix but the autofocus was crap so I sold it.
    This looks very good, hopefully the few niggles such as the focus breathing and exposure can be sorted in firmware.

    • @ChevaughnHibbert
      @ChevaughnHibbert ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My lumix cameras have focusing issues but overtime I got used to it and developed work arounds and for the last 5 years I've been using mainly Lumix primarily.Always reliable.

    • @fondfarewell2
      @fondfarewell2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Took the fight to sonys 5 year old model.

    • @wakeywarrior
      @wakeywarrior ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fondfarewell2 true but seems decent £ for £.

    • @Valerossi0
      @Valerossi0 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fondfarewell2 Sony never delivered features...

  • @dicksonaraujo
    @dicksonaraujo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should I get the A7IV or S5 II X? (As my only camera)

    • @TheAdventureSchmuck
      @TheAdventureSchmuck ปีที่แล้ว +2

      S5 II if you are shooting mostly video and A7IV if you are doing mostly photography.

  • @RzaNaziri
    @RzaNaziri ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A7iii as a 5 years old camera held up pretty well.

  • @michaeld5888
    @michaeld5888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best news of all is the hint that Panasonic are still thinking about the lower end user and considering getting cheap stuff out. This is the first sign after a long bleak time with no new issues that there may be hope for people who do not have endless money to throw at the hobby. These are by the way usually called beginner's cameras and often the sole perfectly adequate equipment for people who were using cameras before a lot of high end users were even born.

  • @Lumix2023
    @Lumix2023 ปีที่แล้ว

    Comparing with a7iv which one is better for hybrid camera ?

  • @rayhugotang
    @rayhugotang 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At timeline 05:18, Did the camera just defocused and then refocused out of no reason?

  • @grampawwillie1665
    @grampawwillie1665 ปีที่แล้ว

    "For the Times, They are a'Changin"
    have you considered adding topics ? HEIC/10-bit color ? Which software would allow me to read raw from my camera and generate HEIF or 10-bit images?
    what software/hardware do I need for 10-bit color ? The monitor and graphics card I have now do 10-bit color; they have for quite some time
    How should I organize my photographic library ? what software should I use ? PhotoShop/LightRoom ? ACDSee ??
    How can I import photos from my phone ?
    It seems clear that system cameras are going to be top-end items soon -- if they are not that already.
    Should I store my photos in a local library ? or on a network drive? what are my options?
    /gw

  • @danc3746
    @danc3746 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I tried a Lumix G9 a few weeks ago with the 12-60 lens and I was very impressed with the image quality, but the focus system was a bit quirky in the view finder, I am hoping for a G9 II soon with better focusing.

    • @ValerioCata
      @ValerioCata 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Has your wish been satisfied?

  • @baesick_nrre
    @baesick_nrre ปีที่แล้ว +1

    no mention of the s5iix in the future with more video options? seems misleading to recommend this to 'video' leaning hybrid shooters with a better option for only $200(US) more in a few months coming out

  • @stevestruthers6180
    @stevestruthers6180 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm thinking about upgrading from my current Sony a6600. I also own a Canon XC15. My aim is to have one camera that can handle video as well as it does stills.
    I'd go with a Sony full-frame camera, but I don't like the viewfinder. I wear glasses and can't see all four corners of the viewfinder easily. Years ago I had a Panasonic G7, which had a big, bright viewfinder and didn't cause any issues. So perhaps the Panasonic S5II is a possible answer.

  • @laylahassomethingtosay
    @laylahassomethingtosay ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm currently cross-shopping this with the a7iv, the R6, and the R6ii. So many good choices!! But as always, no perfect one😅

    • @LakeHowellDigitalVideo
      @LakeHowellDigitalVideo ปีที่แล้ว

      If you shoot video, there is no choice. The Lumix smokes them by a large margin.

    • @phelanwolf6747
      @phelanwolf6747 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LakeHowellDigitalVideofanboiing is unhealthy. Even if they shoot video they do have a choice because they might not need everything what Panasonic offers. Or they might take an actual video camera.
      People who consider a hybrid camera might want to do stills and video and usually have to see which hardware gives them the best balance for what they want. No hybrid camera is perfect.

  • @maxnguyen2875
    @maxnguyen2875 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you buy this or the new Sony ZV-E1 for video?

  • @matt_pang
    @matt_pang ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @4:36 there is a setting for track to autofofus.

  • @JohnAvantiBK
    @JohnAvantiBK ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good review. Why are you saying Panasonic when its a Lumix? I know its a Panasonic brand but its a lumix on the front of it.

  • @arturcharaev1336
    @arturcharaev1336 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if panasonic will be able to fit FF sensor into compact body, i.e. release GX9 FF successor.

    • @iamhassan9943
      @iamhassan9943 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wonder the same thing. They can definitely do it. Maybe bit as small as GX9 but A7C or Fuji X-T5 size would be perfect.

  • @MrRlaureano
    @MrRlaureano ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just to clarify, the Sony A7iii will only crop in 4K 30fps but not in 4K 24fps.

  • @barrydillon8801
    @barrydillon8801 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the Sony A7.4 a worthy competitor albeit more expensive?

  • @80-80.
    @80-80. ปีที่แล้ว +7

    At 5:32, Tony closes his eyes and the autofocus system get confused. Not convincing.

    • @TonyAndChelsea
      @TonyAndChelsea  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wow good catch! In fairness our Canon & Sony cameras sometimes have little glitches like that.

  • @michaelbyrne8238
    @michaelbyrne8238 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a S1 user the big question is what comes next on that line?

  • @alanartme1
    @alanartme1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excuse me...I must've missed something....So....why the Sony A7III and not the Sony A7IV??

  • @PraiseYeezus
    @PraiseYeezus ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So excited for this, honestly. I’ve shot Sony for almost 10 years so it’s hard to consider switching, but thinking about the workflow with the S5, importing my LUTs, using false color, getting 6k and AMAZING IBIS…sigh
    Also, what’s going on at 4:35? The A7siii definitely has touch tracking and can be much faster than that when racking focus. Did you misspeak and meant the A7iii?

    • @laylahassomethingtosay
      @laylahassomethingtosay ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I'm pretty sure they just misspoke since they didn't mention the a7Siii anywhere else in this video. But with Sony's naming conventions, it's hard to blame them😄

    • @Lofote
      @Lofote ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@laylahassomethingtosay Haha yeah, and it will be even more complicated soon on the Lumix side as well, not only S1R II, but there will also be a S5 IIx ("x" at the end) with a SSD built in :)...

    • @laylahassomethingtosay
      @laylahassomethingtosay ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Lofote Ooo yeah I'm looking forward to that one too! I'm not sure if it'll have a built in SSD though-- my understanding is that it supports SSD recording through the USB-C port. Still super powerful though, and (more important to me) way cheaper than equivalent SD storage!

    • @mbvglider
      @mbvglider ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Lofote It's not a built-in SSD. But it can shoot through an external USB-C SSD. Which is amazing, and honestly better than an internal SSD because the workflow will be so nice.

    • @Lofote
      @Lofote ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah ok, mixed that up, but also cool feature in the X model.

  • @markpolly2574
    @markpolly2574 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tony & Chelsea love your videos. But I'm looking for a full frame Photo Camera and don't care about video. What are your suggestions? Thanks.

    • @TonyAndChelsea
      @TonyAndChelsea  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      At this price point, probably a Sony a7R III. But check sdp.io/whichcamera