this is the best footage I've seen of the S5 so far I initially wrote it off as a camera choice due to some poor TH-cam examples, but this footage is making me rethink that decision
Thanks Jon! I really appreciate the kind compliment...it means a lot! Keep an eye out this coming week, as I've got a new video about my favourite Lumix S5 lenses with tons of example shots. I'm loving the footage I'm getting from the S5 when shooting in V-Log and Sigma lenses 😍!
Sold my 5diii and glass for the gh5. Now looking at s5 but...what happens if you press shutter release when filming a video? GH5 you lost half a second but still got a full size image. how is this on the s5? Sad to miss that Wex offer!
I've not tried that yet, so I'll give it a go next time I have the camera with me. I would imagine that if it worked on the GH5, they would try to bring it over to the S5 though? That Wex offer has ended but they do currently have a new one with £200 trade-in bonus and £300 cash back. This might be an even better one to be honest!
i dont mean to be offtopic but does any of you know a tool to log back into an instagram account? I stupidly forgot my account password. I would appreciate any assistance you can offer me.
@Baker Andy Thanks so much for your reply. I found the site thru google and Im trying it out atm. I see it takes a while so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
I watched your film a few months ago where you were holding steady with the GH5; I was in full sympathy with your position. I even commented (and I NEVER comment on TH-cam!). The news that you have succumbed to the temptation of the S5 has left me shocked to the core. PS Got my S5 last November - I love it too ;)
Hey Gorgeous Media. Your comment really made me laugh 🤣. Yeah, I was trying to be all strong-minded and reminding myself that it's the cameraman rather than his camera that captures great footage...but then they offered the £400 bonus and I just broke 🤷🏻♂️🤣! How are you finding it so far?
@@CameraGeeks It is nice to have the familiarity of a Lumix camera (it does feel very GH5ish) but with the knowledge that you can push it that bit further! I agree with you - it is the GH5 on steroids. I bought the 85mm f1.8 and it's rather gorgeous so I'm going to add the other primes in that series when they are released. Then that's it; I will never need anything else... EVER! 🤔😆
This was a nice balanced review. I had S5 on pre-order in November but decided to stay G9 and buy more glass. I was scared off by several critical AF reviews and 4k60 crop. I miss the low light performance. Maybe I'll reconsider down the road :)
Thanks Clickumentary for your kind words! Both are great cameras and I think that the G9 with some fast primes can capture some beautiful results too :)
Hi can you shoot photos in APS-C mode or is it only for videos. I couldn't get around turning on APS-C mode when shooting photos only for videos. And sometimes it would be amazing to have it.
What's your opinion regarding the lower quality slow motion video above 60fps, particularly 1080 120/fps at 8bit 4:2:0, 20-28 Mbs? I've recently seen negative comments about the visual quality.
It suits by photo needs which is mainly casual family portraits. Autofocus with native l-mount lenses is responsive but not quite as fast as my previous G9 camera with MFT lenses, which was like lightning! If you were needing something that hits focus ultra fast and has a higher burst rate, this might not be the one. However, for general purpose shooting, I think it's great!
Considering. Being a person who owns Canon and working in Canon eco system, Im not sure if I should get S5 or R6. Canon reliability always keeps you in safe position. Another system and lens choice make unnecessary hustle.
Completely agree about Canon being reliable but Panasonic are incredibly reliable too...that's why they have (in general) a very loyal and satisfied user base. I know a lot of Panasonic video shooters who still shoot with Canon glass using adaptors. However, if you are a hybrid/photo shooter, maybe stick with Canon because the autofocus on the Sigma MC-21 adaptor is pretty awful. Just some thoughts :)
@@CameraGeeks yes. Im more a hybrid system user and much prefer this format to keep all in one. In most cases EOS R it's more than enough, that's why I'm not sure if I would switch to Sony or Panasonic just for the hype. Having one eco system makes things less complicated in pro life. If you on the timeline of exploration than the more equipment from various brands you have, the more creative your work can be. That's a certain phenomenon in camera world. I made some changes to my gear recently, swapping my EOS M6 to GX80 Lumix (for 4K advantage) and not much appreciate, even see the huge disadvantages with the lack of what I get used to with Canon camera. Reliability in quality and standards.
Hey ruffdraft. I actually purchased two S5 bodies and kept a GH5S with a few lenses. Those S1 updates are pretty amazing though! Panasonic must be one of the most generous companies when it comes to firmware updates!
Hi, nice review. I am considering this but only with the 20-60 lens, as I am hiking a lot with the camera and dont want 2 -3 lenses to carry. Would this lens be good for portraits as well? How worse is the sharpness of photos comparing to your Canon?
Excellent video! Finally, I have decided to go for this camera. I have one more doubt left... Is the S5 4k60 aps-c crop workable for you? Is there a loss of video quality? I've thought of recording everything at 4K with cropping, both 30p and 60p shots. Will I be losing video quality? Will there be more noise in the image? Thanks and sorry for my bad English!
Thank you so much! I think you'll be really happy with this camera! The APS-C crop means you lose a little bit of detail because it's using a smaller part of the sensor. However, the image still looks great and you'd only notice the different if you are comparing like for like...which most of your viewers won't be doing! The increase in noise will probably only be noticeable when shooting in low light to be honest. Let me know how you get on, as you may have already received it now.
I'm in the same boat! I use my 2 Gh5 cameras for weddings and my 6D for photos. Looking for a new photo camera so I can make my 117k-actuations-6D my second body. Thought it would make sense if I'm spending money on any camera gear that I can use it for video as well, since when I need to have a third camera body (if I'm on a solo gig) I would have to borrow or be stuck using my 6d as a c cam, which as you know, doesn't hold up these days. I looked into the sony a7 iv, except have seen lots of overheating reviews, and with shooting weddings, I need something I can trust to shoot all day long takes. Ideally, I would go sony a7s iii for their 4k 120p, but for photo mode, it just isn't enough pixels, which leads me to the alpha 1, which I can't really justify since I'm just doing freelance on the side of my current full time job (still in the video/media field though) Since there's a deal on for the s5 at $2000 CAD, I might give it a try! One question for you - how do you find the autofocus for photos while using adapted lenses with the MC-21. I'm wondering if I will ever fight not having continuous autofocus, which I think I can live without, and if I can't, I could just buy native glass or use my 6D if it's still around. I feel like the only benefit would be for sports or subjects moving quickly towards you? Do you find any limitations or things that are annoying to work around coming from Canon for photography?
Hey Alex. I used to own a 6D myself and it was a great camera apart from needing Magic Lantern to get decent exposure and focus assist tools, plus the unlimited recording. I have been soooo happy with the S5! I feel like it gives me the gorgeous cinematic look I got from my 6D but this time in 4K, and in a camera body and menu system that has been designed for video. Saying that, it's also a fantastic stills camera too. In terms of lenses, I found that using canon lenses with the MC-21 is fine if you're doing manual focus only, even for photos. I shoot all my wedding videos in manual focus anyway so there was no issue. However, I have now switched to native lenses and they perform extremely well for both photo and video. The Lumix S prime lenses are great value for money, especially if you buy second hand. In terms of gripes with the camera, the crop on 4K50/60 is slightly annoying (1.6x) but you soon get used to it. The autofocus for video is good but not up there with Sony or Canon. It works better with Panasonic lenses and can actually be usable in a lot of situations. However, I wouldn't want to take any risks at weddings so I still with manual focus where I have full control. Hope that all helps!
Great review Ben ! I’m really enjoyed your video and learn a lot about the Panasonic S5 features.Does the S5 have cropped mode in photos which I’ve still not figured out in S1 ? Thanks so much !
Nice info! I currently have a GH5 and a bunch of native lenses as well as the Sigma 18-35. I'm thinking about investing in a second hand GH5s as a backup and for use in low light. How would you compare low light capabilities between the GH5s and the S5? Cheers
Hey dude. The low light performance on both the GH5S and the S5 will be a massive improvement compared to what you are used to with the GH5. On the GH5, I would find ISO800 decent and 1600 acceptable at a push. With the GH5S, 6400 was decent and 12800 was acceptable at a push; so three extra stops of light available meaning you get a cleaner image and the ability to shoot dark scenes, like a first dance, in slow motion. With the Lumix S5, the low light performance is the best yet, I'd say that ISO 12800 is very decent! I've not really gone beyond that but you'll see an IS0 12800 shot in the video so you should be able to judge for yourself.
@@CameraGeeks Thanks so much for the info, was a great help! I plan on going full frame in the future but with my current budget it seems the GH5s will do a world of improvement! Thanks mate and keep rocking :D
It really will! I was over the moon when I got my GH5S. Your lens collection gets a turbo charge in terms of low light performance! That's why I sold my two GH5 cameras but kept my GH5S 😉
Hi Ben, nice review. I’ve had it a month now withe the sigma 24-70 mm F2.8 lens and the Panasonic 85mm F1.8 Great camera and can’t wait to get back to filming weddings with it.
Thanks Gary. Yeah, I'm feeling exactly the same! My first one is in early June so we've still got some waiting yet but I'm excited about the footage it will capture.
I went with 2xS5, Sigma 24-70 f2.8, Sigma 85mm f.1.4 and the kit lens for weddings and all round photography :)
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Hi, this video on the S5 is very interesting! How do you find stabilization? valid ?? Because I'm considering changing my sony a6300 to get a hybrid that has good stabilization (for handheld shooting) and flippable screen!
Hi Ben. I've heard the video AF performance especially on faces is bad. Is that true? Have you had shots ruined by the poor AF? What about using the sigma lenses. Thanks in advance!
Hi Kenneth. The general rule is that video AF is best when shooting with native Lumix lenses with 4k50/60. I found both the Lumix 20-60mm and the 24-70 Pro lenses to perform really well with Face tracking when shooting 4K50. However, if video AF is a main priority for you, I think Sony and Canon are still some way ahead.
That is nice movie I was waiting too long for it. Thats great that you are telling about using adapter with Canon EF lenses because I have headache when I need to think about my next gear... Now I am shooting with Canon 6dmk2, I have a lot of Canon EF lenses but I need to change for something which have 4k50p. I am shooting weddings and I need camera on which I can trust and I don't need to be worry if my camera will overheat before wedding oath or not. Panasonic S5 is really following me until the premiere date and I am still thinking about it but I cannot rent it in my country so maybe you could help me with my questions: 1. Did you use it with Ronin-S? Is Focus Wheel working with non L-mount lenses? I don't want to sell all my EF lenses and I want to use that camera with adapter - thats for sure. 2. Is that truth that AF through Sigma MC-11 adapter is working only with Sigma lenses? And AF is not working when I put on Canon lens? 3. Is that truth that for 4k50p I only need SD UHS-I cards? I was watching some movie where someone told that I don't need UHS-II cards because 4k50p I can shoot on UHS-I - that would be so awesome. 4. Can you trust single point AF with non L-mount lenses? I mean, is it usable like on weddings I am recording my couple and someone in background is cheering or there is something else happening so I need to be fast and turn back and use AF to focus on background - is that good? 5. Can you upload some sample clips - even this which you used in this movie? I won't upload them on my channel or even sell them. I just want to try if my PC will handle 4k and how this material will be good for my grading. 6. Stabilization - is it working with EF lenses through adapter? 7. File sizes - how about that? What size have 1hour material in 4k 25/50p in the lowest bitrate and what size have 1hour material in 1080p 25/50p with the highest bitrate? Because if there is no much difference about the two formats then if I would have 1080p wedding I can shoot it in 4k lowest bitrate and it better for me to have 4k material downscale to 1080p - it will be sharper? (I quess so). 8. APS-C Crop - I am looking mostly for camera with APS-C sensor but there is no other on market right now (except Fuji XT-4) but here in 4k50p I have APS-C crop - that's great for me because I want to buy sigma 18-35 and sigma 50-100 (which are made only for APS-C Cameras) and... Can I shoot 1080p 25/50p with APS-C crop and how about quality is it the same like with full frame size or is that really bad? There is a lot of questions but you would help me a lot about that! Thank you so much and I really appreciate your time. Have a great day!
I'm in shock!! Can definitely see some of the benefits, but the cost and weight of those lenses...hm. I will hold onto the GH5/S system and see where things stand towards the end of the year.
Hey Mitchelson! It was a tough decision as I really loved the GH5 and the whole MFT system in general. It was the £400 discount that pushed me over the edge. By trading in most of my MFT gear, I've only spent around £400 extra to completely change over to the new system. I agree that some of the L-Mount lenses are pretty expensive but I've found the Sigma Art primes to be great value for money, especially if you find a good deal second hand. Can't fault your decision to hang on a while longer though and see what Panasonic has up it's sleeve next 😀!
I was absolutely wanting this camera until I found the autofocus on video mode isn't anywhere near as good as Sony, Canon or Nikon and the burst fram speed is only 9fps. For me those two things were a deal breaker. I used to have a GH5 and loved it and it's 12fps burst mode but the very high amount of noise at ISO settings above 800 on the GH5 was a real pain. I mean noise reduction in software can be used but then you get soft video so I sold my GH5 and am now saving up for a Nikon Z6II which has excellent 4k video, slightly better image quality than the GH5, very low levels of noise at high ISO settings and is capable of a burst rate of 14fps. I always photograph anything using burst except when tripod mounted doing landscapes because shooting everything using burst mode gives me the best way of getting a sharp photo. I just sort between the 5 or 6 photos taken using burst mode and see which is the sharpest then bin the rest.
I've actually found the video autofocus to be pretty decent when using Panasonic lenses and shooting in 50/60p. It's a massive improvement from the GH5 and pretty usable in most situations. I agree it's not up there with Canon and Sony but Panasonic are getting a lot closer than they have been in the past.
Enjoyed the review a lot, thank you for sharing. I liked how you were showing clips that had been done with other lenses via the Sigma adapter. In stills mode could you comment on how well does the Canon 135 f2 perform on focusing speeds on the S5? Thanks in advance :)
Thanks for your kind comments 😉! I'll be honest, the sigma mc21 has been pretty awful for any kind of autofocus. It hunts for ages and then misses focus completely. They pretty much become manual focus lenses with the adapter. Nothing like the metabones that was actually pretty good for AFS. Such a shame :(
Great review Ben, I've just had the S5 on loan from Lumix and it was really impressive. What camera are you planning to use as a B cam now that you've invested in full frame?
Thanks Lewis ✊🏻! Yeah, it really is an incredible camera and such a perfect upgrade from the GH5. I bought an S5 and after a couple of days playing with it, quickly decided to buy a second one while the offer is still on. I've still kept my GH5S as a 'safety' camera for ceremonies and speeches. Has borrowing one made you think about switching in the future?
@@CameraGeeks That's great that you have the GH5s too. I've been trying to pick up a used one on ebay. They really are great cams. I'm still curious to see what Panasonic does with GH6.
@@CameraGeeks That's great, it does seem like an ideal upgrade from the GH5. Although I think I'll stick with mine for now, as the L mount lenses are pretty pricey at the moment!
This is really funny because I've long used my 5D Mark II for stills while using my GH4 and later G9 for video. I've got a S5 on the way for stills but I suspect it will take over for video as well. Just need to get the Sigma MC21 and a native lens or two. And the aps-c crop in 4k 50p won't bother me because I have the Sigma 18-35 which is for aps-c anyway. It's exciting for a number of reasons, including having better image quality and files than the Canon C100 Mark II and original C300.
You're really going to love this camera for both stills and video! It's definitely worth getting a couple of native lenses as the MC21 isn't great for any kind of autofocus from my experience. The Sigma 18-35mm is a fantastic partner in crime to the S5 when using manual focus though. You should see a very big jump in quality from your C100! The quality straight out of the camera for video is incredible but I've just bought a Ninja V so I can play around with 5.9k Raw. So much potential in this camera!
@@CameraGeeks TBH I'm stoked to get the S5, unfortunately it's on back order at the shop but it was the best price anywhere. In the meantime I'll hunt down some lens adapters for vintage glass, too.
@@CameraGeeks Quick question: everyone says that continuous AF is not available on the MC21. Something I do a lot with my m43 cameras is record video and occasionally tap the shutter button or rear AF button to reacquire focus. Does the MC21 let you do this? Or is autofocus completely dead during recording?
To answer my own question: the Sigma MC21 has one touch AF during video with EF mount lenses, but it is slow and sporadic. I struggle with it, but it works 70% of the time. Native L mount lenses are the way to go if autofocus is important. And yes, I love the S5 for stills and video. The video quality is ridiculous for such a small camera and price, and the raw stills are so malleable.
Should be £1699 here in the UK but the £400 cash back bonus brings it down to £1299. I believe it's about $2000 in the US and similarly priced around the rest of the world.
Great Video BEN... the s5 is a great camera. I have the g9 for you video for my work. Thanks for learnig your experience in this cameras. God Bless you! Saludos desde Mexico.
Hola Ignacio! Muchisimas gracias! Yes, it such a nice camera...I can't wait to learn more about it and film some cool stuff! Dios te bendiga amigo! Un abrazo desde Inglaterra!
Hey Adrian. My wedding video business is called Bramblehedge Wedding Videos. I've not had chance to shoot a wedding with the S5 yet but you'll find lots of my GH5 and GH5S wedding films there.
I had the GH5 and loved the video (never stills) features. I want to go full frame but don't like Sony bodies or Canon's overheating issues. With the GH6 taking so long to arrive, I want to get the S5 for stills and video!
It would be a fantastic choice. The video quality it produces is outstanding and being able to capture photos with the full frame look and much less grain is a huge benefit. AF performance for stills is good but not the best though. It's been great for portraits and slow to medium moving subjects. I don't think it would be fast enough for things like sports though. Hope that helps!
Thanks my friend! The S5 doesn't have dedicated function buttons like the GH5, which is a shame, but you can still customise the regular buttons to suit your preferences.
such a cute adorable little girl she is... she totally took my attention from the camera to her :D my daughter is also of the same age.. nice review by the way.
Muchas gracias hermano! Que buen sorpresa verte aquí! Yes, I love this camera and can't wait to get more footage and photos of the beautiful models...not talking about my dad of course!
Thank you so much! It's a fantastic camera and I really love the full frame look 😍, for both photos and videos. In terms of photography, the AF performance isn't as fast as the G9, but still plenty fast enough for family portraits, which is my main area of photography. The video AF on the other hand is much better on the S5, especially if you buy Panasonic lenses and shoot at 50/60p!
I do not quite agree that it is a GH5 on steroids, it feels more like a full frame version of the Lumix G90/91/95, with Hi-Res mode, and the Dual Native ISO. Even if it were to be compared to the G9, the G9 has nearly three times the burst rates. A GH5 on steroids would imply it has all the same video features as the GH5,including Raw recording, which it does not. The GH5 also has six function buttons, the S5 has one. Maybe they will come out with an H version of the S5... .
Thanks for sharing your thoughts SuperZero. I completely understand your point about the dedicated function buttons...it's a shame they are missing. However, all of the other buttons are still customisable, so I have been able to assign my favourite features to other buttons and joystick movements. When I chose the title "GH5 on steroids", I was mainly referring to huge benefits that the full frame sensor brings to the table; more shallow depth of field and MUCH better low light performance.
this is the best footage I've seen of the S5 so far I initially wrote it off as a camera choice due to some poor TH-cam examples, but this footage is making me rethink that decision
Thanks Jon! I really appreciate the kind compliment...it means a lot! Keep an eye out this coming week, as I've got a new video about my favourite Lumix S5 lenses with tons of example shots. I'm loving the footage I'm getting from the S5 when shooting in V-Log and Sigma lenses 😍!
Sold my 5diii and glass for the gh5. Now looking at s5 but...what happens if you press shutter release when filming a video? GH5 you lost half a second but still got a full size image. how is this on the s5? Sad to miss that Wex offer!
I've not tried that yet, so I'll give it a go next time I have the camera with me. I would imagine that if it worked on the GH5, they would try to bring it over to the S5 though? That Wex offer has ended but they do currently have a new one with £200 trade-in bonus and £300 cash back. This might be an even better one to be honest!
@@CameraGeeks Thanks, I think shops are open again here in the UK so I think I need to re-enter the world and go and try for myself!
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I stupidly forgot my account password. I would appreciate any assistance you can offer me.
@Damien Kieran instablaster ;)
@Baker Andy Thanks so much for your reply. I found the site thru google and Im trying it out atm.
I see it takes a while so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
Great review mate! You'll have a lot of fun with the S5!
Thanks Luca. Yeah, very excited to get out and film a wedding with it!
I watched your film a few months ago where you were holding steady with the GH5; I was in full sympathy with your position. I even commented (and I NEVER comment on TH-cam!). The news that you have succumbed to the temptation of the S5 has left me shocked to the core.
PS Got my S5 last November - I love it too ;)
Hey Gorgeous Media. Your comment really made me laugh 🤣. Yeah, I was trying to be all strong-minded and reminding myself that it's the cameraman rather than his camera that captures great footage...but then they offered the £400 bonus and I just broke 🤷🏻♂️🤣! How are you finding it so far?
@@CameraGeeks It is nice to have the familiarity of a Lumix camera (it does feel very GH5ish) but with the knowledge that you can push it that bit further! I agree with you - it is the GH5 on steroids. I bought the 85mm f1.8 and it's rather gorgeous so I'm going to add the other primes in that series when they are released. Then that's it; I will never need anything else... EVER! 🤔😆
Love that he swagged this out without mentioning the internal 6K. I can not wait to post my new work. This was a dope review all the way!
This was a nice balanced review. I had S5 on pre-order in November but decided to stay G9 and buy more glass. I was scared off by several critical AF reviews and 4k60 crop. I miss the low light performance. Maybe I'll reconsider down the road :)
Thanks Clickumentary for your kind words! Both are great cameras and I think that the G9 with some fast primes can capture some beautiful results too :)
@@CameraGeeks the problem is the pro lenses for mft are heavy and big.. ff lenses can be a saving.
Watching this after lot of heavy nerdy reviews of lumix cameras, this was so relaxing and good. Nice review, loved the visuals.
Hi can you shoot photos in APS-C mode or is it only for videos. I couldn't get around turning on APS-C mode when shooting photos only for videos. And sometimes it would be amazing to have it.
After buying this camera I wonder if a firmware release will change the AF to be as good as Canon / Sony. Any rumors?
Great video
How good is the FHD video
Also did you see any aliasing or moire
Thanks
What's your opinion regarding the lower quality slow motion video above 60fps, particularly 1080 120/fps at 8bit 4:2:0, 20-28 Mbs? I've recently seen negative comments about the visual quality.
Congrats for the video! Could you tell me about the exact model of the Sigma 50mm f1.4 lens you used extensively. I love it!
Thanks Ruben! It was the native l mount version of the sigma art 50mm 1.4 DG HSM. A lovely lens and a very versatile focal length!
@@CameraGeeks thank you!
Do you recommend it for photos? I shoot videos and photos both
It suits by photo needs which is mainly casual family portraits. Autofocus with native l-mount lenses is responsive but not quite as fast as my previous G9 camera with MFT lenses, which was like lightning! If you were needing something that hits focus ultra fast and has a higher burst rate, this might not be the one. However, for general purpose shooting, I think it's great!
Considering. Being a person who owns Canon and working in Canon eco system, Im not sure if I should get S5 or R6. Canon reliability always keeps you in safe position. Another system and lens choice make unnecessary hustle.
Completely agree about Canon being reliable but Panasonic are incredibly reliable too...that's why they have (in general) a very loyal and satisfied user base. I know a lot of Panasonic video shooters who still shoot with Canon glass using adaptors. However, if you are a hybrid/photo shooter, maybe stick with Canon because the autofocus on the Sigma MC-21 adaptor is pretty awful. Just some thoughts :)
@@CameraGeeks yes. Im more a hybrid system user and much prefer this format to keep all in one. In most cases EOS R it's more than enough, that's why I'm not sure if I would switch to Sony or Panasonic just for the hype. Having one eco system makes things less complicated in pro life. If you on the timeline of exploration than the more equipment from various brands you have, the more creative your work can be. That's a certain phenomenon in camera world. I made some changes to my gear recently, swapping my EOS M6 to GX80 Lumix (for 4K advantage) and not much appreciate, even see the huge disadvantages with the lack of what I get used to with Canon camera. Reliability in quality and standards.
I have lumix s5 camara still facing autofocus birthing issue and heating issue.
Are you going to purchase a used Panasonic S1 especially with all the upcoming updates
Hey ruffdraft. I actually purchased two S5 bodies and kept a GH5S with a few lenses. Those S1 updates are pretty amazing though! Panasonic must be one of the most generous companies when it comes to firmware updates!
Nice. How do you set up your S5 for video?
Thanks Triple F. I'll make a video on this in the near future!
Hi, nice review. I am considering this but only with the 20-60 lens, as I am hiking a lot with the camera and dont want 2 -3 lenses to carry. Would this lens be good for portraits as well? How worse is the sharpness of photos comparing to your Canon?
Excellent video! Finally, I have decided to go for this camera. I have one more doubt left... Is the S5 4k60 aps-c crop workable for you? Is there a loss of video quality? I've thought of recording everything at 4K with cropping, both 30p and 60p shots. Will I be losing video quality? Will there be more noise in the image? Thanks and sorry for my bad English!
Thank you so much! I think you'll be really happy with this camera! The APS-C crop means you lose a little bit of detail because it's using a smaller part of the sensor. However, the image still looks great and you'd only notice the different if you are comparing like for like...which most of your viewers won't be doing! The increase in noise will probably only be noticeable when shooting in low light to be honest. Let me know how you get on, as you may have already received it now.
I'm in the same boat! I use my 2 Gh5 cameras for weddings and my 6D for photos. Looking for a new photo camera so I can make my 117k-actuations-6D my second body. Thought it would make sense if I'm spending money on any camera gear that I can use it for video as well, since when I need to have a third camera body (if I'm on a solo gig) I would have to borrow or be stuck using my 6d as a c cam, which as you know, doesn't hold up these days.
I looked into the sony a7 iv, except have seen lots of overheating reviews, and with shooting weddings, I need something I can trust to shoot all day long takes.
Ideally, I would go sony a7s iii for their 4k 120p, but for photo mode, it just isn't enough pixels, which leads me to the alpha 1, which I can't really justify since I'm just doing freelance on the side of my current full time job (still in the video/media field though)
Since there's a deal on for the s5 at $2000 CAD, I might give it a try!
One question for you - how do you find the autofocus for photos while using adapted lenses with the MC-21. I'm wondering if I will ever fight not having continuous autofocus, which I think I can live without, and if I can't, I could just buy native glass or use my 6D if it's still around.
I feel like the only benefit would be for sports or subjects moving quickly towards you?
Do you find any limitations or things that are annoying to work around coming from Canon for photography?
Hey Alex. I used to own a 6D myself and it was a great camera apart from needing Magic Lantern to get decent exposure and focus assist tools, plus the unlimited recording. I have been soooo happy with the S5! I feel like it gives me the gorgeous cinematic look I got from my 6D but this time in 4K, and in a camera body and menu system that has been designed for video. Saying that, it's also a fantastic stills camera too. In terms of lenses, I found that using canon lenses with the MC-21 is fine if you're doing manual focus only, even for photos. I shoot all my wedding videos in manual focus anyway so there was no issue. However, I have now switched to native lenses and they perform extremely well for both photo and video. The Lumix S prime lenses are great value for money, especially if you buy second hand. In terms of gripes with the camera, the crop on 4K50/60 is slightly annoying (1.6x) but you soon get used to it. The autofocus for video is good but not up there with Sony or Canon. It works better with Panasonic lenses and can actually be usable in a lot of situations. However, I wouldn't want to take any risks at weddings so I still with manual focus where I have full control. Hope that all helps!
@@CameraGeeks Thank you! It's really helpful to hear from someone who was in a similar situation!
Great review Ben !
I’m really enjoyed your video and learn a lot about the Panasonic S5 features.Does the S5 have cropped mode in photos which I’ve still not figured out in S1 ? Thanks so much !
Nice info! I currently have a GH5 and a bunch of native lenses as well as the Sigma 18-35. I'm thinking about investing in a second hand GH5s as a backup and for use in low light. How would you compare low light capabilities between the GH5s and the S5?
Cheers
Hey dude. The low light performance on both the GH5S and the S5 will be a massive improvement compared to what you are used to with the GH5. On the GH5, I would find ISO800 decent and 1600 acceptable at a push. With the GH5S, 6400 was decent and 12800 was acceptable at a push; so three extra stops of light available meaning you get a cleaner image and the ability to shoot dark scenes, like a first dance, in slow motion. With the Lumix S5, the low light performance is the best yet, I'd say that ISO 12800 is very decent! I've not really gone beyond that but you'll see an IS0 12800 shot in the video so you should be able to judge for yourself.
@@CameraGeeks Thanks so much for the info, was a great help! I plan on going full frame in the future but with my current budget it seems the GH5s will do a world of improvement! Thanks mate and keep rocking :D
It really will! I was over the moon when I got my GH5S. Your lens collection gets a turbo charge in terms of low light performance! That's why I sold my two GH5 cameras but kept my GH5S 😉
Hi Ben, nice review. I’ve had it a month now withe the sigma 24-70 mm F2.8 lens and the Panasonic 85mm F1.8
Great camera and can’t wait to get back to filming weddings with it.
Thanks Gary. Yeah, I'm feeling exactly the same! My first one is in early June so we've still got some waiting yet but I'm excited about the footage it will capture.
I went with 2xS5, Sigma 24-70 f2.8, Sigma 85mm f.1.4 and the kit lens for weddings and all round photography :)
Hi, this video on the S5 is very interesting! How do you find stabilization? valid ?? Because I'm considering changing my sony a6300 to get a hybrid that has good stabilization (for handheld shooting) and flippable screen!
Hi Ben. I've heard the video AF performance especially on faces is bad. Is that true? Have you had shots ruined by the poor AF? What about using the sigma lenses. Thanks in advance!
Hi Kenneth. The general rule is that video AF is best when shooting with native Lumix lenses with 4k50/60. I found both the Lumix 20-60mm and the 24-70 Pro lenses to perform really well with Face tracking when shooting 4K50. However, if video AF is a main priority for you, I think Sony and Canon are still some way ahead.
That is nice movie I was waiting too long for it. Thats great that you are telling about using adapter with Canon EF lenses because I have headache when I need to think about my next gear... Now I am shooting with Canon 6dmk2, I have a lot of Canon EF lenses but I need to change for something which have 4k50p. I am shooting weddings and I need camera on which I can trust and I don't need to be worry if my camera will overheat before wedding oath or not. Panasonic S5 is really following me until the premiere date and I am still thinking about it but I cannot rent it in my country so maybe you could help me with my questions:
1. Did you use it with Ronin-S? Is Focus Wheel working with non L-mount lenses? I don't want to sell all my EF lenses and I want to use that camera with adapter - thats for sure.
2. Is that truth that AF through Sigma MC-11 adapter is working only with Sigma lenses? And AF is not working when I put on Canon lens?
3. Is that truth that for 4k50p I only need SD UHS-I cards? I was watching some movie where someone told that I don't need UHS-II cards because 4k50p I can shoot on UHS-I - that would be so awesome.
4. Can you trust single point AF with non L-mount lenses? I mean, is it usable like on weddings I am recording my couple and someone in background is cheering or there is something else happening so I need to be fast and turn back and use AF to focus on background - is that good?
5. Can you upload some sample clips - even this which you used in this movie? I won't upload them on my channel or even sell them. I just want to try if my PC will handle 4k and how this material will be good for my grading.
6. Stabilization - is it working with EF lenses through adapter?
7. File sizes - how about that? What size have 1hour material in 4k 25/50p in the lowest bitrate and what size have 1hour material in 1080p 25/50p with the highest bitrate? Because if there is no much difference about the two formats then if I would have 1080p wedding I can shoot it in 4k lowest bitrate and it better for me to have 4k material downscale to 1080p - it will be sharper? (I quess so).
8. APS-C Crop - I am looking mostly for camera with APS-C sensor but there is no other on market right now (except Fuji XT-4) but here in 4k50p I have APS-C crop - that's great for me because I want to buy sigma 18-35 and sigma 50-100 (which are made only for APS-C Cameras) and... Can I shoot 1080p 25/50p with APS-C crop and how about quality is it the same like with full frame size or is that really bad?
There is a lot of questions but you would help me a lot about that! Thank you so much and I really appreciate your time.
Have a great day!
Hey Darek. Quite a few questions here but I'll get back to you very soon!
I'm in shock!! Can definitely see some of the benefits, but the cost and weight of those lenses...hm. I will hold onto the GH5/S system and see where things stand towards the end of the year.
Hey Mitchelson! It was a tough decision as I really loved the GH5 and the whole MFT system in general. It was the £400 discount that pushed me over the edge. By trading in most of my MFT gear, I've only spent around £400 extra to completely change over to the new system. I agree that some of the L-Mount lenses are pretty expensive but I've found the Sigma Art primes to be great value for money, especially if you find a good deal second hand. Can't fault your decision to hang on a while longer though and see what Panasonic has up it's sleeve next 😀!
I was absolutely wanting this camera until I found the autofocus on video mode isn't anywhere near as good as Sony, Canon or Nikon and the burst fram speed is only 9fps. For me those two things were a deal breaker. I used to have a GH5 and loved it and it's 12fps burst mode but the very high amount of noise at ISO settings above 800 on the GH5 was a real pain. I mean noise reduction in software can be used but then you get soft video so I sold my GH5 and am now saving up for a Nikon Z6II which has excellent 4k video, slightly better image quality than the GH5, very low levels of noise at high ISO settings and is capable of a burst rate of 14fps. I always photograph anything using burst except when tripod mounted doing landscapes because shooting everything using burst mode gives me the best way of getting a sharp photo. I just sort between the 5 or 6 photos taken using burst mode and see which is the sharpest then bin the rest.
I've actually found the video autofocus to be pretty decent when using Panasonic lenses and shooting in 50/60p. It's a massive improvement from the GH5 and pretty usable in most situations. I agree it's not up there with Canon and Sony but Panasonic are getting a lot closer than they have been in the past.
Enjoyed the review a lot, thank you for sharing. I liked how you were showing clips that had been done with other lenses via the Sigma adapter. In stills mode could you comment on how well does the Canon 135 f2 perform on focusing speeds on the S5? Thanks in advance :)
Thanks for your kind comments 😉! I'll be honest, the sigma mc21 has been pretty awful for any kind of autofocus. It hunts for ages and then misses focus completely. They pretty much become manual focus lenses with the adapter. Nothing like the metabones that was actually pretty good for AFS. Such a shame :(
Great review Ben, I've just had the S5 on loan from Lumix and it was really impressive. What camera are you planning to use as a B cam now that you've invested in full frame?
Thanks Lewis ✊🏻! Yeah, it really is an incredible camera and such a perfect upgrade from the GH5. I bought an S5 and after a couple of days playing with it, quickly decided to buy a second one while the offer is still on. I've still kept my GH5S as a 'safety' camera for ceremonies and speeches. Has borrowing one made you think about switching in the future?
@@CameraGeeks That's great that you have the GH5s too. I've been trying to pick up a used one on ebay. They really are great cams. I'm still curious to see what Panasonic does with GH6.
@@CameraGeeks That's great, it does seem like an ideal upgrade from the GH5. Although I think I'll stick with mine for now, as the L mount lenses are pretty pricey at the moment!
This is really funny because I've long used my 5D Mark II for stills while using my GH4 and later G9 for video. I've got a S5 on the way for stills but I suspect it will take over for video as well. Just need to get the Sigma MC21 and a native lens or two. And the aps-c crop in 4k 50p won't bother me because I have the Sigma 18-35 which is for aps-c anyway. It's exciting for a number of reasons, including having better image quality and files than the Canon C100 Mark II and original C300.
You're really going to love this camera for both stills and video! It's definitely worth getting a couple of native lenses as the MC21 isn't great for any kind of autofocus from my experience. The Sigma 18-35mm is a fantastic partner in crime to the S5 when using manual focus though. You should see a very big jump in quality from your C100! The quality straight out of the camera for video is incredible but I've just bought a Ninja V so I can play around with 5.9k Raw. So much potential in this camera!
@@CameraGeeks TBH I'm stoked to get the S5, unfortunately it's on back order at the shop but it was the best price anywhere. In the meantime I'll hunt down some lens adapters for vintage glass, too.
@@CameraGeeks Quick question: everyone says that continuous AF is not available on the MC21. Something I do a lot with my m43 cameras is record video and occasionally tap the shutter button or rear AF button to reacquire focus. Does the MC21 let you do this? Or is autofocus completely dead during recording?
To answer my own question: the Sigma MC21 has one touch AF during video with EF mount lenses, but it is slow and sporadic. I struggle with it, but it works 70% of the time. Native L mount lenses are the way to go if autofocus is important.
And yes, I love the S5 for stills and video. The video quality is ridiculous for such a small camera and price, and the raw stills are so malleable.
price ?
Should be £1699 here in the UK but the £400 cash back bonus brings it down to £1299. I believe it's about $2000 in the US and similarly priced around the rest of the world.
Great Video BEN... the s5 is a great camera. I have the g9 for you video for my work. Thanks for learnig your experience in this cameras. God Bless you! Saludos desde Mexico.
Hola Ignacio! Muchisimas gracias! Yes, it such a nice camera...I can't wait to learn more about it and film some cool stuff! Dios te bendiga amigo! Un abrazo desde Inglaterra!
Very good review! You've given me much to consider!!
You're very welcome :) Glad you found it it helpful!
I just bought my S5. Where I can watch your wedding videos?
Hey Adrian. My wedding video business is called Bramblehedge Wedding Videos. I've not had chance to shoot a wedding with the S5 yet but you'll find lots of my GH5 and GH5S wedding films there.
Thanks
How’s the s5 working out for you?
I had the GH5 and loved the video (never stills) features. I want to go full frame but don't like Sony bodies or Canon's overheating issues. With the GH6 taking so long to arrive, I want to get the S5 for stills and video!
It would be a fantastic choice. The video quality it produces is outstanding and being able to capture photos with the full frame look and much less grain is a huge benefit. AF performance for stills is good but not the best though. It's been great for portraits and slow to medium moving subjects. I don't think it would be fast enough for things like sports though. Hope that helps!
Great video and insights. I thought you couldn't customize buttons. Thanks!
Thanks my friend! The S5 doesn't have dedicated function buttons like the GH5, which is a shame, but you can still customise the regular buttons to suit your preferences.
beautiful review~!! 🙃✨
such a cute adorable little girl she is... she totally took my attention from the camera to her :D my daughter is also of the same age.. nice review by the way.
Do these models suffer from shutter shock that plagues the G series
Excellent video pro, amazing camera features and the best models. Great description of the 📷
Muchas gracias hermano! Que buen sorpresa verte aquí! Yes, I love this camera and can't wait to get more footage and photos of the beautiful models...not talking about my dad of course!
Is the autofocus issue solved on the firmware update now???
Upgrading soon from the g9
Excellent vid, great job. 👍🏼
Thank you so much! It's a fantastic camera and I really love the full frame look 😍, for both photos and videos. In terms of photography, the AF performance isn't as fast as the G9, but still plenty fast enough for family portraits, which is my main area of photography. The video AF on the other hand is much better on the S5, especially if you buy Panasonic lenses and shoot at 50/60p!
Nice review. Thank you.
I only wish the Panasonic S5 had 10 bit 4k internal unlimited recording
I do not quite agree that it is a GH5 on steroids, it feels more like a full frame version of the Lumix G90/91/95, with Hi-Res mode, and the Dual Native ISO. Even if it were to be compared to the G9, the G9 has nearly three times the burst rates. A GH5 on steroids would imply it has all the same video features as the GH5,including Raw recording, which it does not. The GH5 also has six function buttons, the S5 has one. Maybe they will come out with an H version of the S5...
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts SuperZero. I completely understand your point about the dedicated function buttons...it's a shame they are missing. However, all of the other buttons are still customisable, so I have been able to assign my favourite features to other buttons and joystick movements. When I chose the title "GH5 on steroids", I was mainly referring to huge benefits that the full frame sensor brings to the table; more shallow depth of field and MUCH better low light performance.
Very good review, lumix s5 is great.
Love my S5 but yes agreed The LCD resolution is small con.
Or sign up to panasonic loan scheme and borrow one free that way you try before buy
Great idea as well! Just be ready for not wanting to send it back at the end 🤣!
@@CameraGeeks ha ha 🤣.
Left country lol
Vrry gud video... Keep it up👍👍
Thank you Shubhdeep, I have lots more S5 videos planned 👍🏻!
@@CameraGeeks very much interested looking frwrd👍
Subbed - looking forward to more :)
Thank you so much...really appreciate it ;)
nice vid
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
@@CameraGeeks sure
Calke Abbey 👍
Not Calke Abbey but I don't live too far from there! A couple of little local parks. Are you based around Derby?
@@CameraGeeks More Birmingham way, but always travelling to a National Trust here and there.
Good camera for photography ,but not not for video.
You’re not very convincing. I won’t be switching, thanks.
Looks digital, looks like shit.
music is too loud!!!!
Ok…too late for this video but I’ll be mindful for future ones.