3rd Gen 4Runner Tundra Brake Upgrade
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2020
- 3rd gen 4Runner Tundra brake upgrade. In this video I show you how I performed Toyota Tundra disc brake upgrade on my 3rd gen Toyota 4Runner. The upgrade to the Tundra brake caliper and rotor gives you a few distinct upgrades and improvements.
-The rotor is much thicker and has almost double the amount of internal cooling fins, this will allow it to dissipate more heat and help reduce brake fade. This will likely be evident if you regularly drive down steep grades or tow. Even with utilizing engine braking by using lower gears, you still have to use the brakes, and on a long descent, your brakes are going to heat up and have a lack in performance and increased stopping distance. If they get hot enough, they will fade. The caliper is larger with a higher fluid capacity and accepts a larger brake pad so you get increased stopping power.
Tundra Caliper Choices
13WE - 199mm Caliper
13WL - 231mm Caliper
Here is a link to a complete resources about this in detail. www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen... - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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If you close your eyes it's like iron man teaching you about a 4Runner.
I get that a lot.
😂🤖
Great video Kelly! Just ordered the parts to do the upgrade and just want to mention for others to order calipers for the 2001 Tundra which are the 13WE 199mm and 2005 tundra are the 13WL 231mm. Disappointed that they arrived without the bleed valves and other port plugs which prevent dirt and other debris getting in during shipping. Cost for the calipers was 179 cdn (each), 135 for each rotor and 110 for the pads.
My Hilux Surf is nearly complete foe the journey south to Mexico, Guatemala and Belize. Thanks again for your videos and ideas👍🍻
Dang, hitting up the fancy spots! I hope to visit Belize, Costa Rica and those areas one day. Dream trip is Peru! But that will obviously be a flight 😅
Another great video! This looks like something I could totally do now (my brakes aren't quite there yet, but I sure could have used this upgrade coming down a major hill at a ski resort last winter). Great step by step detail (and I appreciate you speeding up some of the parts while still showing enough to see the necessary steps). Thank you!
Solid as always. Thanks
This is super good! thank you
I look forward to seeing your work, you should be proud of.
I appreciate that!
I have learned a lot from you guys.
Awesome. Glad it helped.
Very nice. Thanks!
Thanks, good to know.
Wonderful video. I'm wondering if you could update video description to list the Napa part #'s you used. Looks like ADC 1720XB for the calipers.
Loved the video.
Thanks
I did this to my 2002. I went with 231mm from a 2005 Tundra 4x4 V8. Both my stock wheels and a set of TDR 16s off a 2021 Tacoma fit without any issues. I think the peace of mind on mountain roads is worth it.
First I would like to thank you for all these beneficial videos. Has helped me tremendously. Seems like u went from Napa back to OEM is that correct from what I read on the forum? Thank you
Great How-To!! My 3rd gen 4Runner is an Overland build with RTT, steel bumpers and winch, so I did this upgrade and went with the larger 13WL calipers and rotors. I'm running 16 inch Pro Comp 69 Series wheels and they fit fine. I also upgraded the rear brakes with Tundra rear brake cylinders. The Tundra rear cylinders are a full 1 inch vs 15/16.
Awesome. I just did my lift, wheels should show up soon. Got a few videos of all that coming soon. I'll check into the wheel cylinders forsure. Thanks.
Hi, Does anyone know if U need to remove the running board for 1997 3rd gen 4runner limited in order for the side fender to come off. I believe I have removed all the screws already but it not coming off. 3 top screw Underhood, 1 in door, 2 beneath door, 1 in wheel well and the 4 screws that holds the plastic, 1 under the light. Not sure if I'm missing anything. Please help.
@mbraylarak how'd you manage to change the rear drums to rotors? What year model tundra did you use? I want to change my drums just for the sake of easier to manage and replace.
I got the TBU on the front already… wanna get a custom mount to do swap drums to mirror TBU on the rear.
What are the part numbers from NAPA for the calipers, rotors, pads, etc.?
Awesome video 🤙🏼,but can I bother you for the napa part numbers? I saw the forum link that guy used the oem 231 parts.
Id rather use these hope you can help 🙏🏼
Plenty of 16s work. I did this with my 98. Stops amazingly well! Must do upgrade IMO.
Nice last name 🤘 same same.
We need a picture diagram that show which factory 16” wheels fit the 231 calipers without modifying. I’m looking to do this as well
Are you still happy with the Napa tundra upgrade?
For 2005 toyota tundra it only gives me options for 13WL 231mm. Could it be a 2001 tundra for the S13WE 199mm ?
Please help. I want to get these Napa parts for the 199mm but I don’t know the part numbers, I can’t find them, even the store can’t figure it out.
Hello gen 3 people, I have a 98' 4runner SR5, V6 2 W.D. with stock 15" rims, will the 199mm caliper fit all stock 15' rims ? I wish I could afford 17' rims and go for the 231mm big boys, but anything is better than 98' OEM brakes. Also I adjusted the rear drums and they offer only Flintstone stopping power without Fred's calloused feet.
Could this be done in a 1997 land cruiser?
Does Power Stop brake kit Z36 or Z23 work for this upgrade ??
Hi. Have you done any 4th Gen 4runner rotor and caliper upgrades?
What's the Napa part numbers?
Hello, could you please give me the link where I bought the calipers? Cheers
Has anybody used the 231mm calipers on the oem 16in Tacoma (2002) ??
I'm changing the ultra premium rotors to OEM they went bad after two years.
After watching this video of upgrading I've decided to go with this same setup for mine is a 2wd so the smaller setup is definitely the way to go. Plus the money saved I'll apply to a 4x4. How is your setup holding up? Any & all comments/tips truly appreciated. Keep up the Great Work/Videos 👍🏁👍🏁💯💯
Yazmin
Venice Beach CA ⛱
No problems to report. They seem to be working great.
Hi, Does anyone know if U need to remove the running board for 1997 3rd gen 4runner limited in order for the side fender to come off. I believe I have removed all the screws already but it not coming off. 3 top screw Underhood, 1 in door, 2 beneath door, 1 in wheel well and the 4 screws that holds the plastic, 1 under the light. Not sure if I'm missing anything. Please help.
Im not sure if you could would know but if you see this i could use your help. So if we moved up the larger 13WL brake upgrade would we have to change the master cylinder since the pressure to the front discs would be increased to factor the larger rotors?
i bought the 13we calipers and rotors. i need brake hoses too. have about 3.5 inch lift. can you tell me which lines to buy?
Where did you get your brake lines from?
Hey. Enjoy your videos. Did you have any rubbing issues with the rotor hitting the dust shield or with any area near that?
Thanks Andre, no I didn't at all. No problems and no cutting.
I got the same setup as you... what wheels are you running without hitting or rubbing. Don't want to cut anything. Please respond. Thank You.
Thank you for the great information! I did the 13we-199mm Toyota Tundra brake upgrade on my 2002 4runner this weekend and everything went well (thanks to this video). However, after bleeding the system, I noticed the electric motor that pressurizes the brake system consistently activates after 5 presses of the brakes. I don't remember the system needing to be pressurized this often. Have you or anyone else experienced this?
I was wondering what that noise was!!! Mine always makes that noise all the time especially after braking. Ever figure it out?
Ever figure the issue out?
Turns out it is normal
@@gruben79thanks for the update. I'm doing my 13we on my 2002 runner tomorrow
What year tundra?
curious how this all held up. I am doing this upgrade soon and curious of the reliability of the napa parts. Thanks
Same for me now. You ever figure anything out?
I’m running a 17 inch wheel. I’m pretty big on oem could you point me in the right direction of the parts I need to buy. I would greatly appreciate it bro!!
Check the video description. Everything you need to know is there. Follow the link for further info as well.
I want to upgrade my brakes exactly like yours. I read your link description and it says get the 2005 Toyota Tundra 4x4 v8..can you tell me what exactly to get just so I don’t get mixed up. Will this set up help improve your stopping distance when you are running on 33’s. I have a 1998 Toyota 4Runner limited lifted with 33’s and do you recommend the brand call Power Stop on Amazon. That’s what I’m thinking about getting it. Any info would help me.. I want to upgrade ASAP...thanks
Its definitely worth it. Check out the link I posted in my video description. Its has all the relevant info that will help you out. Power stop it ok, I'd probably choose something else but I have much different connections being a shop owner.
Hey I was on Napa website and there's 2 option a Napa brand and a Nugeon brand. Which do you recommend? Thanks
Which did you go with? I'm seeing the same now and was wondering about that.
Will those brake lines you used work with the 231 mm calipers?
I can't say forsure as I've never used them specifically, but I can't see any reason why they would be different.
Do you think the 199mm upgrade would be fine for 17 inch wheels? I really dont feel like cutting the dust backing hahaha
As far as I understand 199 has no issue with 17" only some 16". If your running the larger wheel, no problems.
The trail gear brake lines, those are bline 06x correct? And second question when you did the lift where they long enough?
Ill be honest I actually dont remember on the lines. But yes, absolutely long enough, no issues on fitment.
Any chance you remember where you got the lines? I'm trying to find those same ones and having a little trouble. Knowing where you got them will help. Thanks!
ive got a 2000 4runner sr5 w the stock 15 inch rims. the stock calipers fit just fine, and i know the 199 tundra calipers are just a little bit thicker,but can anyone confirm if they will fit?
On 15s I believe that's a no. Follow the link innthe description to the forum post.
Can I do this on my 1998 Toyota T100 4x4?
I actually don't know forsure, I'm sorry.
Did you have to do anything to the master cylinder?
Besides bleed the brakes, no.
If you go to the larger calipers size does the caliper still bolt up the same?
Yes still the same locations.
How do this setup perform on the road? Debating between the 13WE(199mm) vs 13WL(231mm). I have a 97 4Runner with 4x4, that i intend to use as weekender vehicle and eventually convert into an overlander. Thoughts? Thank you.
So far no concerns or issues. This past weekend I did a significant decent down some steep trails for quite a long time and absolutely no fade. I'm not really sure if I would have seen much improvement with the larger rotor. The extra thickness seemed to provide enough heat sink .
@@Beacon_Offroad for the (199mm) what year tundra do you ask at Napa
@@alexamaya7051 follow the link in my description. It has everything youd want to know.
Will the larger caliper option provide noticeable improvement over the smaller? Is there any reason I couldn't use the stock caliper with the new thicker rotor?
Too thick, wont fit. I wouldn't say it provides a big stopping difference but definitely when hot and consecutively braking it will provide more heat resistance. That in itself will provide better braking.
Quick question, do you us 4runner brake line or upgrade to tundra line? Thanks
Extended 4runner.
Will this mod work on a 2nd gen Tacoma?
I can neither confirm nor deny. My gut tells me it's probably the same. You'll have to investigate, sorry.
Good morning,
Is this the same upgrade if I want to go from 15" rims to 16's
16" you'll be good to go..
You WILL have a "softer" feeling pedal after the upgrade, there is no getting around it but it's fine
2 years later no soft pedal. Installed many, no soft pedal. 🙅♀
@@Beacon_Offroad Soft as in a longer travel
So it’s safe to say that the bigger caliper will clear on the 18inch wheels I have on right now?!
@@israelrodriguez6986 18s definitely won't be a problem..
@@Beacon_OffroadThanks!
anyone know if the 199mm fit the 15in wheels on the sr5?
No at least 16 wheels
I did this on my 2000, but now I have such a soft pedal, it's kinda annoying. I heard a larger bore MC will possibly fix it, but IDK. I'm done throwing money at it
I just bought a 2000. Still having the same issue?
@@Amazonian11 Yeah, but I got used to it. First brake is soft, but the second pump is firmer
What year tundra break or does it matter?
Follow the link innthe video description, you'll find all the useful info you might need.
How many miles are on your 4Runner?
Right now about 288k so about 179,000 miles I figure.
Did you have to upgrade your master cylinder?
No did not. Even installed a handful of these at the shop. No issues to report.
@@Beacon_Offroad Okay sweet thank you! For some reason the shop I am going too is saying I have to upgrade mine. The brakes are spongey, but from everything I have read and heard is that it shouldn't be the issue. One of the calipers boot's is falling apart and I live in a humid area. Should I just bleed the brakes and replace the caliper?
@@noahcasey7230 soft pedal is a common complaint. Check the calipers and bleed it lotf to make sure theres absolutely no air and you shoukd be ok.
What gen tundra?
Check the link in the description.
Why didn't he just give the napa #s ? That would have been much easier
Bro you sound like Robert Downey Jr.
Lol apparently it's a thing. Either that or TH-cam is trolling me with random comments in my videos 😄 haha.
@@Beacon_Offroad no trolling, my friend gave me a 1997 4Runner with 185K miles and I’m trying to figure out what upgrades I want to do without spending tons of money and I found your page. One thing I need to do is replace the rocker panels and I have no welding experience.
@@tp722219 lol, quite a few people have commented that now, its so funny. Well that's cool man, but I can't help with and body work advice. Mechanical I'm your guy 👍
@@Beacon_Offroad I liked that break upgrade with Tundra pads and rotors and keep the same wheels. That will be this summer, also want to upgrade the original headlights
Is there a master cylinder upgrade to go with this?
Not as far as I know. Would be nice but Mines working great the way it is though.
Will the 199 fit 15 inch wheels?
Unfortunately i dont know forsure and don't want to steer you wrong.
@@Beacon_Offroad Okay...I might just have to bite the bullet and get some 16 or 17s