Tundra Brake Upgrade 13WL on 3rd Gen 4Runner Speedy's Garage
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See how to install Tundra Brakes on a 3rd Gen 4Runner for a cheap brake upgrade with the 13WL upgraded Tundra brake calipers.
that is a clean ass 100k+engine bay man!!!! nice videos bro-I would trust you with any of my projects cause you do it right
Great video! I did the 13wl conversion on my 2002 4runner. Used the napa ones. They're awesome. My house and work are close to 2000 vertical feet apart over only 15 miles. I drive from the top of the continental divide to the piedmont nd every part of the drive is steep and winding. These rotors are the difference between a "sketchy old truck" and something really solid. If you have rusty dust shields, It's worth replacing them when you do the rotors, the old rusty dust covers tend to warp and want to touch your rotor, easily fixed, but that squeal is the last thing you want to hear when you just finished a brake job. Between you and faye, a 4runner is an easy truck to work on
outstanding video w/ clean, concise presentation. very useful and informative...... thanks
Dude this is an awesome video! You take the time to perform every operation correctly without the mess. Your instructions are detailed and to the point! Congrats!
I did this a few years ago, bought the big tundra breaks and calipers and brought all the stuff to my mechanic. Picked up my 4Runner the next week and the mechanic said "you bought the wrong parts, I exchanged them for 4Runner parts"! Your all set! He screwed me with my pants on...
You didn't tell him anything word one about the fact you knew what you'd bought & why? Just left it go? No way lol I'd definitely have made mention of the upgrade to the mechanic, I can see why he'd do something like that if you expected him to be psychic or assumed he was a Toyota guy. Yeah thats rough tho man geez.
Incredible video. Clear concise and throughout. Much gratitude speedy! Can’t wait to put the Tuns on the Run!!!
You must have got that 100 k by putting that 3rd gen. in and out of your garage. That's super clean, mine is a total rust bucket on the underside. Great work.
I really like your tutorials. Although I don't own a truck, I still watched the whole tutorial. I like how you explain everything, but don't over explain it. Keep up the good work!
Tanks great vidéo gave me confidence to change my first caliper, did not rebuild it from scratch like you did but buy refurbished at 290$ cdn and they gave me back 115$ for old one at Canadian tire.
I'm just like everyone else, that is one clean 3rd gen, man!!!
It's been one of my favorite vehicles I've ever owned.
I love the Wagner thermoquiet pads they are the best pads I've ever used. Worth every penny.
Mine seem to want to squeek, but only when cold and going in reverse.
Mine don't squeak but you might want to pull them apart and take some steel wool to the face of the pad and also to your rotors you might have some glaze on it.
Going to be doing this to my 01' this weekend.
Great bleed tool idea!!!
As a jeep guy myself, I can really appreciate the great camera work and detailed instructions. I also enjoyed the tip about the vacuum plug and homemade bleeder.
Great video
Thanks for this as well as the caliper rebuild and painting videos. They were all among the best and most informative I've seen on the subject!
Just seen your tundra break upgrade videos and i'm glad to say I have learned a lot today, the whole polish and paint really gives it that custom look you don't normally get. great job!!
Its a good idea to clean the rotors with brake cleaner when theyre new. Some manufacturers put a thin layer of oil to keep them from rusting in storage.
Awesome video, short, sweet and to the point. Thx for your trouble.
Amazing results! I like the brake bleeder that you made, I'll have to make one myself.
Personal experience with this mod:
Bought caliper, disc, pad kit, KC2323 (stamped S13WE) from Pwrstp.com, thru Auto Zone. The calipers that came with this kit were exactly the same bolt pattern size, length, cylinders size, etc (except the flaming red coating) as the ones that my truck had installed (stamped S13WM or N (one of the two)). Nevertheless, I had replaced them twice, and rotors x4, on an 18-year span. I returned the kit to store and after 2 more trips back (press-on Mr. Dwight Howard) searching for this S13WE 199mm, I end up with an S13WG caliper (02 Tundra 4.7-2WD) that seem to be 20mm or so longer than the existing WM calipers. The caveat; had to grind a small area on the outboard side of the caliper (.025 chaffing against 16"stock rims).
Hey Speedy, nice video and presentation! With the 2002 fat lip 4R , you have the Toyota upgraded B/Booster pump and MC Solenoid.
So you have dynamically adjusted brake fluid pressure.
A different animal than the 1996-2000 BB MC combination, which tend to show pedal fading signs when running the TBBUG
Thanks
Ah, great info.
Thanks for this I have a 99 and very hesitant to do the tbu now I'm pretty certain it's not for me just goin to invest on good rotors n pads hopefully they last bit longer than cheapos
Super clean looking Runner!
WOW !!!
Your OCD .... is way, WAY worse than mine!! Will you come clean my shop and my 4runner? :)
* meant as a compliment!
This an awesome tutorial. I am considering the 199mm tundra caliper upgrade for my 97 4Runner. I did consider the 231mm calipers, but after doing some research, I discovered I would have to do some grinding on my factory rims to get them to fit.
do you have 15s or 16s?
@@taylorbrown888 I have 16's stock on my 02 4 runner 2WD so I will have to run spacers? How wide of spacers will I need?
Great vid… Thnx for taking the time to show us how this is done.
thanks for the in depth explanations!! helped me big time on my 01!!!
Speedy,
I am preparing to do the 13WL upgrade for my '00 4runner and have two questions so far:
1. Have you had any ABS issues with the 13WL upgrade? (There is some scuttlebutt on forums about this so considering 13WE instead)
2. I will upgrade the soft lines to stainless steel and the vendor asked if I wanted to bypass the caliper side hard line with a longer flexible line. Would you do this?
Once again, thank you so much for your videos and advice
I really like your shop air idea, that's a good one for making brake bleeds a one-person job. One thing I don't think you mentioned in this video: I think it is a good idea to have a dryer on your compressor when using it for this purpose, especially if humidity is high the day that you do this work. Brake fluid is hygroscopic (i.e., it absorbs water) and air expanding past that regulator will tend to precipitate moisture out, and you don't want that water dripping down your fittings into the reservoir. That might be splitting hairs most days, but might actually be worth considering in a very humid environment.
The regulator has a moisture filter on it, and with such a low 15psi pressure I doubt moisture should be any problem, but not a bad suggestion if doing this in the middle of a rain storm LOL. They make extra filters you can put at the tool pretty easy. They're used on paint guns usually and would do the trick if it's of concern.
I was pretty sure you had a filter. :) I meant that as a PSA for the viewers. Thanks again for this video, I hope to do this upgrade soon.
Depending on the piston size of the new calipers , you may need to replace the master cylinder, otherwise you will have a rear bias.
And hardly anyone talks about this factor...I have a 994runner and very hesitant to do this upgrade because of the unknown what it's goin to effect on things I can't see
Nice videos here speedy, I’m doing this upgrade this summer so this helps a ton. Gonna be on the look out for used calipers so I can rebuild and paint as well! Man the SC edition is sick!! Looks very well taken care of! Nice ride brotha
For anyone trying to make that home made bleeder tool I want to let you guys know that that 2” to 3/4” rubber reducer basically doesn’t exist as I recently made this tool myself how ever I use a couple different parts because that reducer is no where to be found I went to multiple Home Depot’s I went to Menards to Lowe’s to Ace Hardware and just couldn’t find it so luckily me and my little brother found out another way to make the tool without that specific reducer and get the same results.
Fantastic DIY, thanks for making it!
Like your lift video, this one is great! Very informative, and I especially like the brake bleed idea.
nice video, i will be using this as a reference this summer. Installed 3.5 OME lift running 33s with 18inch wheels and stopping sucks now. Got any steering rack videos? Stock rack sucksssssssssss but the rest of the truck is a beast. Nice SC btw
thanks great vidio! the rims look great with the red calibers.
teflon wraps against (other direction) threads, The tape is "screwed" into the mating thread surface not against it.
Wow awesome video. I need to do this to my 4runner.
Stupid observation: on your video, at marks 4:27, 4:30 & 4:34 I noticed the teflon tape being applied against the threads rather than WITH the threads. I"ve always put tape on in the direction of the threads so that when a fitting it tightened onto the threads the tape doesn't unravel. I mostly do water/irrigation systems. Anyone else have input on this? Just my O.C.D kicking in when I was watching the video. haha
Not a bad suggestion!
Great video
Was thinking about this upgrade but can't justify the labor and added time for install. I rather adjust the drums a tad tighter and if offroading consistently, maybe a semi-metallic pad on the front with a thicker aftermarket rotor? Trying to think when I'd be off roading over 400lbs of gear. My gf's 280lbs, so I'm almost halfway there.
Dude... great Vid and excellent job on the Upgrade.. i will def be emailing you for the decal, and more info on the brakeline.
looking to upgrade rotor and caliper on my '08T4R. Thanks
Teflon tape goes clockwise and about 3 to 4 times around.
Your editing is way too good! I'm gonna have to take some time to watch the rest of your videos. Can you tell me about the wheels you have in this video? They look bad ass!
tam level 8 MK6 with TRD Center caps I believe.
Looks very good... Well done bro...
I tried to scan through the comments/questions looking to see if anyone asked "what year or years Tundra brake calipers fit a 3rd gen 4runner? Thanks
I got mine from a 02 I think the cast numbers were 13wl which are the biggest ones for a tundra
Speedy: Great video, just wondered if you considered installing the TRD pads. Although ceramic/Kevlar, they had much improved braking performance on my daughters Scion Xb and my Avalon
great video, can you please link or share in the description where to find the stainless steel braided lines?
It's been a minute but I think I got them from Wheeler's Off Road.
Great video! Thanks for taking the time to make this so informative. One question for you, what are your thoughts now on the Wagner pads vs something like the "higher end" ones such as Stoptech, EBC, Hawk, etc?
I would NOT use the Wagners again. They squeal badly but only in reverse for whatever reason.
Nice work man
I like your kind of work, it's very clean and professional. Did you use the 13WL calipers or the smaller 13WG calipers?
Great video - going to be doing this soon on mine...
For the brake bleeder tool (genius, btw) where did you find the plastic 2" to 3/4" reducer? I saw you said Home Depot in the comments... was that in Plumbing maybe?? I'll have to show you my bleeder tool that I built from a yard sprayer - I can use your tool for my 4runner with it, basically it replaces shop air, which I don't have. Thanks in advance...
Great upgrade ...
Nice job, awesome video Thank you
Great instructional video! I recently installed 5100s/trd springs/906s just as you did. Ive recently added an arb bull bar and looking to put 285s under my 4runner. Whats your thougyts on 4th clip setting on 5100s to help me get the clarence. Ty
You'll have to address the CV angles.
I tried slotted rotors and they eventually caused an annoying vibration when braking hard. I replaced them with regular ones, and the vibrations ceased. Won't buy slotted again. That was my experience with my 3rd gen.
What brand? These have been excellent and no vibrations to this day.
@@SpeedysGarage Thts good, I forgot, I got them at Autozone, they were a GT PERFORMANCE BRAND.
Gotcha, you can see the ones I used with the link in the description. They're Stoptech Powerslot. Not the cheapest but seems you get what you pay for on these.
Benefit of slotted over regular?
Hey nice video! I am doing this mod on my 2001 tundra and I was wondering what your level 8 mk6 rim size are? I want those rims and wondering what size I need to clear the bigger brake calipers! (stock 16 or 17s?)Thanks
You got skills
I've been hesitant to complete the TBU with my '01 due to reports of spongy pedals and increased failures of the hydraulic unit - maybe those issues are overblown on the forums. Have you experienced or noticed these issues since your install? Thoughts on TBUs with models w/ the hydraulic unit?
Hey Speedy, Thanks for the awesome video. Do you have a part number for the Wagner brake pads? Having some trouble narrowing down which part number is right for this install. As always, thanks for the help!
friend could you help me with the part number of the front fender thanks
Good job
Really like your video. I have a 2001 Tacoma. Do you know if the calipers are the same as on your 2002 4-runner?
Mark Graybill I'm not 100% sure on this, but my gut says they will work. I'd do some forum searches to confirm.
Very detailed and to the point, If i can't find junk yard Tundra calipers what would you recommend for caliper upgrade? I've looked at Napa Calipers but not sure if its as good as "OEM". Thanks!
NAPA are the ones most folks seem to get.
Great tutorial! I was inspired to do the upgrade as well. I got all the same stuff as you did, but on the Stoptech rotors I noticed on each side after a test drive, that there was about a half inch on each rotor of no brake pad contact towards the hub, other than that, they looked well bedded in. Just wondering if yours have the same half inch of no wear on the rotors towards the hub?
Thanks
I believe mine are the same.
my '93 camry connects about the same with aftermarket pads. As long as she's responsive and brakes when need be, you're good!
Hey aren’t you a member in the 4Runner forum? Thought I seen your name in there.
Indeed
What’s Rims are those?
&Dane Covarrubias MK6 Level 8 from discount tire
U can change the center cap
Awesome job sir. Did you have to use spacers with your 16'' rim?
In your opinion what are the major pros/cons of having these brakes on a 3rd gen runner?
NO cons. Pros, better stopping power and no brake warpage.
What tundra did those brakes come from? Great vid
I believe it was a 2003 Sequoia but it's been a while. The 13WL is the one you want.
Hey Speedy can you please tell me about your wheels? Level 8, MK6, 16xwhat, and are they 0 or -10 offset? Thanks for the great videos. Hope the 4runner is still going strong. Would love to see an update vid of how all your upgrades are doing.
I have some recent updates on Project Sport Runner with a meth injection install and tune. Still love this truck after 15 years of ownership.
Will this work on a 97’ T100 2wd?
How much does doing this upgrade run for ? :o
Do you live in Texas? Rust free cars always impress me, lol
Middle TN, but yeah we got it good here from a rust perspective. Makes things easier to work on too.
Is there a master cylinder upgrade to go with this?
Any word or knowledge of the reman calipers from O'Reilly/autozone? Everyone is saying get them from Napa, but there's not that many Navas in my area.
Did you check out the ones linked in the description?
@@SpeedysGarage I totally missed that part 😅. I will do more research on them.
Personal experience with this mod
My 3rd Gen workhorse stops which such grace and deliberation after this mod, that is not even funny. I can feel that I am using less foot to pedal power. I wish I would done it years ago. No trade-off. A couple of caveats:
1. S13WE is the same calip as S13WM, which is what my 98 Run had. (measures less than 199mm at calip brake, grip, bite area)
2. The calip here in question (my experience) is a S13WG (probably an upgrade for WE's on Tundras of certain VIN'? (01 Toy Truck Tun 2WD 3.4L MFI DOHC 6c, 01 Toy Truck Tund 2WD 4.7L MFI DOHC 8c, 01 Toy Truck Tund 4WD 3.4L MFI DOHC 6c, 01 Toy Truck Tund 4WD 4.7L MFI DOHC 8c, 02 Toy Truck Tund 2WD 3.4L MFI DOHC 6c.
3. The outboard, r/s caliper metal casting (rectangular cast, looking at installed calip) has to be grinded (mine @.025")
4. It is indeed that the brake dust, back plate has to be modified IOT fit the S13WG calip. on to installation lugs. Ill suggest no more than 15mm.
5. The only place that I could figure out was the 199mm comes from, is from measuring calip at the brake grip, bite area with the rotor disc and pads installed, in which mines measured @ 200mm.
Great video. I'm wondering the total cost for a project like this?
mrard1 Cheap.
Was going to do this over Thanksgiving break but discovered that rockauto, in all their wisdom, shipped me 2 passenger side calipers... Is there any way you know of that could get the drivers side brake line to fit and function? Or am I pretty much screwed?
They are side specific.
Great video, How did the decals hold up to the heat?
J. Kolarik No issues what so ever in almost a year.
This upgrade will work for a 2000 4Runner 2.7L?
Did you have a "soft/long travel pedal after the install?
No but my 4Runner is a 2002. I'm told some earlier models like pre 2000 might have that.
@SpeedysGarage this is the comment I was looking for I have 1999 so now I'm very hesitant to "upgrade" but maybe just opt for 4runner premium rotors n pads
those rims are 16x8 level 8 ?
I have 2000 T4R 4x4 and want to do my brake upgrade like you. Would you mind sending me a direct amazon link to the correct brake kit that I would want to get. I have 16in wheels on right now. Thank you for the vid!!
Lemme do some checking.
Any ideas what year Tundra calipers these are? m assuming 98-02 are all the same? Also where did you get the red brake hoses? Those look awesome. Cheers
+winoism Several years use these calipers. You need the ones with the 13WL stamped on them. Hoses cam from Wheeler's Offroad.
What kind of wheels (rims) you have there? Been looking for that kind of rims. Thanks.
They look like Lvl 8 Mk6 with a different center piece.
Where did you get your brake lines??
Wheeler's maybe? It's been a while.
Hello. What are the stainless steel lines you used? Thanks
Do you remember what offset you have on that wheel. 0 or -10?
-10 I "think" but it's been a while.
Hey Speedy! so i am actually attempting this upgrade tomorrow along with replacing the Brake Master cylinder due to it giving me issues when its extremely cold outside. I noticed in your video you said to not let it go below the min mark....I am just curious since i will be replacing the whole unit and it won't have any fluid in it how should i go about filling it?
Scared that i will get air in it and mess up the system. should i just fill it and drive slowly to the dealership and have them flush it?
That's a tricky one. Most ABS systems won't be happy when bled dry. I'd just to your best with it and try using a pressurized system to bleed when done. You might have to take it to a specialist with a machine but I'd avoid the dealer and try a third party personally.
Speedy's Garage thanks for the advice !
Do you have to bleed the brakes because you opened the system or just because you wanted to because service was due ??
collin young Anytime you open the brake system it is best practice to bleed the system.
Hey buddy where can I get those decals
Hit my website www.speedysgarage.net
What year Tundra calipers are you using. I might be doing this to my 2000 if its not too expensive
In the future do you plan on trying to resurface your brake rotors or are you going to just replace them with new slotted rotors again? Some say you can't resurface slotted or drilled rotors. I have plans to do a similar Tundra brake upgrade to my 01 Tacoma but I can't decide whether or not to buy factory rotors or performance slotted rotors. I like the performance of the slotted rotors but I want to be able to resurface them like the factory brake rotors. Any advice?
Eric Sabelhaus I'd just replace the rotors. By the time they're worn out I will have gotten my money's worth. They're not overly expensive comparatively.
How well do you like these pads? Do they make a lot of dust? I know some manufacturers say low dust but sometimes they lie. Ahem EBC. Also do these pads give you good bite and stopping power? I need to replace my brakes soon on my 4Runner and am going to do this upgrade but I cant decide on pads. I really want low dust but I really want the best stopping power possible.
Just "so so" to be honest. They stop and bite well, but hey have this nasty habit of squeeling when I first back out of the driveway. I even removed them and put some anti squeel grease on them but it wore off after a month or so. I'll go with some PowerStop or similar at the next pad change.
Speedy's Garage Thanks for the information I really appreciate it. Would you recommend power stop over EBC?
Yeah, I'd look at Power Stop for sure. Something carbon ceramic would do the trick.
Hey just wondering What size rims did you put those 231mm calipers on 17s?
I know this is old but is the old caliper off the Runner is it the S13wb to the s13WL or s13we trd
where did you get the stainless brake lines?
I'm wondering that too
Where the hell did you buy that rubber reducer? I’ve searched high and low and couldn’t find any 2in x 3/4in flexible reducer. I have everything else
Local hardware store had it. It was in the plumbing section I believe.
@@SpeedysGarage Thanks for the reply but thats not a 3/4" ID rubber reducer. I found that exact one, it's actually a 1-1/2" to 1-1/4" reducer. The OD of that 3/4" 90 degree reducer is 1-1/4".
What’s the recommended offset for the upgrade?
I have the trd Baja bead style rim 16” wondering if the 231 will fit?
I'm not sure, maybe someone with the same tire will chime in.
That entire engine bay looks NOTHING like a 3rd gen engine or engine bay.
What year is this????
2002 with a supercharger and some other goodies.