Urbanic Coffee Grinder In Depth
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ต.ค. 2022
- Review & Teardown of an #Urbanic 070-S #coffeegrinder, with optional titanium-coated burrs. First, I consider its performance, its ease of use, and flavor characteristics in #espresso and pour-over. Then I perform a teardown and evaluate the component quality and mechanical design. I wrap up with a few minor irritations, and final thoughts on value for money.
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man can narrate my life with a voice like that
even though the intro is so low budget it’s just so… smooth.
Fantastic video again. Thank you for sharing!
A year and a half with this grinder now, and it’s still doing a wonderful job. So wonderful I got a second one for work! Slow-feeding the beans helps enormously.
You make all our lives better
I thoroughly enjoy your videos. Very well filmed and edited, I like your narration and last but not least, they are very informative.
Thank you!
my new favorite youtube channel
I have this grinder and I love it. 10/10 would recommend.
A very nice review. I bought this grinder a few months ago and have to say that I'm completely satisfied with my decision. It's a very nice upgrade from two cheaper burr grinders that I had previously but that were in a much lower price category.
Great to have you back with frequent uploads 😎
Looking forward to the next lot
Another great grinder review!
Thanks Thomas
That seems like a solid grinder, and the looks are pretty solid. No wonder so many people go for it
I bought an 080 directly from the manufacturers website and couldn’t be happier. The price has gone up since this video but it’s still worth it!
Gotta admire this guys commitment to the word "mousse"
This is a culinary channel. French is the language of gastronomy, not Italian. Cèpes, not porcini, etc. Plus the Italian word for mousse makes me cringe :)
thank you so much for the review. i have asked many ppl for their review and opinion on this machine… and other than Lance and now you… nobody else has reviewed it. so i totally appreciate you taking the time to do so. hope to hear what you think about it in the near future.
I’ve been using it with a cafelat robot for nearly a year. I bought the gevi burrs that lance mentioned in his review and have done the stepless mod (easy and reversible, just needs a good few wraps of cheap plumbers tape to prevent slip) and swapped the hopper for a hopper with bellows. It’s down to zero retention here and I couldn’t be happier with it. I’m based in Vancouver Canada so the shipping and tax did put up the price but it still kicks the crap out of anything else at this price point, especially down to the power of the motor. I’d also look at the Lagom mini as a lovely stepless espresso capable option!
Urbanic 070s - it ain’t broke!
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Great video, thanks.
Glad you liked it!
So this grinder is more than adequate for someone that drinks drip coffee that wants to upgrade their home grinding game from a cheap Costco coffee grinder. Great video! And since it can do espresso I could even venture into that if I wanted.
Very nice review.Would love to see you review the Itop40 and Itop40 plus,another Korean grinder,cheers.
Modify it to stepless, and espresso extraction improves. Do the mod right, and the setting does not wander. Additionally I added steel into the hollow front part of the base. Makes it very steady. I’ve been using this grinder for a half year, and I’m getting great results.
@Glenking2003 Tell us more about adding steel to the hollow front part of the base!
@@threehanded8853 get a heavy commercial-style hinge at home de-pot or other store. It fits inside, except that you’ll have to file a couple grooves to fit to the screw posts. This is a good thing, as it kept the hinge from moving around. It added about a pound, which stabilizes the grinder.
I'm happy to see these grinders get a deep dive. Looks an awful lot like a very large bag grinder from a company whose name starts with an "M"... Also, as I understand it, it can take the burrs that Gevi uses in their automated pour over machine.
Mazzer?
@@Andrew-wp1bz mahlkonig, lol
Yep - right on the gevi burrs, I’m using them right now.
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Thank you for the comprehensive breakdown, very helpful! Do you know how many volts the DC motor runs at? Also, I am looking online to see if I might be able to swap out the permanent brushless motor with a replacement that has low RPM given that they are relatively cheap, do you think this would be feasible (I do not own an Urbanic grinder yet)?
I was thinking about putting a pwm speed controller in it. I took the base off and carefully checked the voltage to the motor with a multimeter. I expected something like 48 volts. I saw 156 volts. Also, there isn't much room in the base really.
How does this compare to the GS30, or other similar models?
As for the grinder video, I love the deep dives. Plenty of knowledge
Very informative and interesting review, thank you!
Can you comment how suitable is this grinder for single dosing? Retention isn't very significant, so at least that's a good start. How about popcorning?
Also, I can't wait for your review about the Mignon Libra. Can you test how suitable is it for brews other than espresso? Eureka considers it an espresso only grinder, but I can't see why. Is it that its grind adjustment too limited and can't go coarse enough?
You can buy a bellows from lescoffee that fits slightly better than the xeoleo bellows available from urbanic. With that it’s basically zero. There will be some exchange of grounds but on my day to day coffee I’m putting in 18.1 and getting the same back.
I feel like these units have a lot of potential if someone was able to make some minor adjustments to reduce RPM, increase burr size to 64mm, and improve obvious reasons for retention.
Agreed. There should be a an easy enough way to add a speed control to the motor. Not sure how much that would impact torque though.
I think it has 64mm burrs? But I agree with a lower RPM I'd probably try this.
@@macehead A better way would be to resize the gearing, then you'd get extra torque for the lower RPM. You might risk overloading the motor though.
Touching the thumbscrews lights up a test pen on my unit (powered on but not running). Urbanic says this is normal in all their units. I'm unsure if this is safe.
How does the espresso taste compare to the Eureka specialita?
Hey Thomas, great review! Is there a grinder you would recommend that can do Turkish coffee too?
My Specialita handles it like a champ. If that's more than you want to spend, maybe look into an espresso focused hand grinder like the Orphan Lido, some of the 1Zpresso ones, etc. Manuals can get boring if you drink a lot, though!
@@wiredgourmet Thanks! Yes I have an 1zpresso and it’s pretty easy for espresso and pour over, but Turkish grind is the most laborious. I’ll take a look at the Specialita!
Great video Thomas! Ive done all the mods I can to this but as a non engineer, I was hoping you’d be able to provide some insight into wiring a dimmer mod in some way to tame the rpm - as you say you’re getting a tonne of fines in your filter so hopefully they’d subside with a lower speed. The black urbanic logo on the right of the stand looks like a perfect place to mount a potentiometer, with your knowledge of motors and the inside of the grinder do you think it’d be easy and safe for the longevity of the grinder to do this or is it a more complex process? Thanks again for the great video!
You could get an AC variable power supply, to vary the line frequency (not the voltage), but they cost betw $50 and $100, cheap on Amazon. AC in and AC out. A dimmer switch is cheaper but works differently and would make the motor weaker, not slower, if that makes sense. A potentiometer is for DC, and usually 1 W or less, except HD ones used in welders that can handle 100-300 W and would def not fit in the grinder!
@@wiredgourmet Ah - so would this unit be a pass through that the regular plug of the urbanic goes into? Lance struggled to find one that did the job for this grinder unfortunately. Thank you for the "weaker, not slower" info!
With I'm going to guess is $80 of upgrades already plus a unit to control speed probably another $70 you're getting into the probably best just to buy a higher end grinder. But if it's the sleeper life for you, killing the big boys with cheap k-grinders/cars then enjoy and may the giants fall at ever red light and espresso stop
@@BobGP1 Yeah I think you're right here, I'm kinda happy with the output of this at the minute as I'm mainly a chocolatey milk espresso type of person rather than clarity for light roasts or v60s - having a big ugly box hanging off the side of the unit would be more annoying to me than missing out on the functionality, I reckon it's a case of looking at the new df64s when it comes out or potentially one of the new 64mm grinders like the zerno, whenever it gets out into decent reviewers hands!
Weak option worked for me: Urbanic 070s - it ain’t broke!
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I don't have experience with too many different grinder types and I'm very confused about the look of those fines in that V60 paper. Are you agitating much or at all?
I have an 1Zpresso X-Pro and I get maybe a 1cm thin layer of fines up the sides, with some very light agitation. Although I'm just remembering/realising I have a size 3 V60 but mostly use it for one cup. That could very well be the reason!
I know that for a comparable level of quality in hand grinders, you have to increase the budget considerably for an equivalent electric grinder, but I'm curious if I could get expect to get at least similar results with this grinder?
As much as I love the X-Pro, and enjoy the results I'm getting both with espresso and filter, I do have those days where I'd really appreciate not having to work for my morning coffee so much. :)
I got a similar unbranded version of this grinder, with a little bit of stepless mod, this thing is pretty solid for its price (i got mine for around $99) and i have been using it daily for almost 2 years now and it's still good
Edit: i saw my ecommerce transactions from buying 1kg green beans, i guess my grinder has been through almost 40kg beans and it's still good, but maybe i need to replace the burrs since it feels dull after all the beans.
I just looked and it's over $300 USD delivered to the US.. It got a wee bit expensive.
Looks like they updated the price up $20 dollars
Awesome video, like always an incredible indepth video,by the way, will you review many grinder from Kingrinder company? I was thinking of getting the k4 for espresso since it's 160€ and the 1zpresso jx-pro is 190€, and I don't think those four microns of difference are worth it, what's your opinion?
Have you experienced WHOLE BEAN RETENTION as well as unwanted fines with this grinder?
“This could be the least expensive of the truly competent electric coffee grinders”
I thought basic blade grinders were good for grinding for pour over? Making them the cheapest competent electric grinders.
Wired gourmet has made videos in the past saying that blade grinders are completely adequate. I completely disagree.
I guess you could call my comment irony.
You’re better getting pre ground at a cafe more than using a blade grinder
I'll be interested in your look at a prosumer espresso machine 👍