The Porsche Macan T is Surprisingly Good, With One HUGE Problem...
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Today I drive the Porsche Macan T. Aimed at the keen driver, this is still a £55,800 two-tonne SUV that has the same engine as a Golf GTI. How can Porsche justify it, and is this even a real Porsche? Let's find out!
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I had one of these for a little while - I loved it but the kids hated it - the back seats are so uncomfortable for them -especially the middle - I sat in them on a drive and agreed - so I was faced with a choice and going fully against my better judgement on such things I decided to keep the kids. I have regretted this decision ever since!
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Narratively, I honestly think this is your best car review to date. Very well thought out, structured and argued.
This is my 1st with him but I have to agree with you, cos I am just seating in my chair, and it seems like I am watching/ listening to an interesting story as opposed to a regular car review. Hmm Great video!
We test-drove the base Macan while shopping for similar 2.0T luxury commuter SUVs (X3, GLC 300, Q5, etc). The chassis, steering, and gearbox were in an entirely different class, and the cockpit is well-optioned without being cluttered (or worse, gimmicky - I’m looking at you disco lighting MB). It was enough to get me in the door with the brand. What sold me was the 2.9T V6 the Macan S borrows from the GTS. While there’s a stated performance difference, in reality it’s slight, meaning the S might be the best value in the entire Porsche lineup. The amount of car you get for the money is staggering.
F-Pace is better than all of them!
Did you check out the Stelvio? Haven’t driven the Macan recently but the Stelvio drives nicer than my X3 with far better steering.
@@paulbugoni2846 Yeah, I've heard that too. As a BMW fan, the older-gen BMWs had it in them to truly stand out as the Ultimate Driving Machines. Shame they aren't like they used to be in driving feel and handling. Like, don't get me wrong, I think the X3 M40i is a wonderful all-rounder. Just wish the steering had more feel and communication coming through the palms, while not tiring the driver. It seems BMW has understood that "sporty" means hard suspension and heavy steering alone. The old models just held up brilliantly in terms of ride-handling balance.
Sounds like my Audi SQ8…..9/10ths of an RSQ8 or its Italian cousin but a far better value and lets face it you rarely drive at 7/10ths……let alone all out.
@@rahulmandala4930 agree, loved my E90.
The problem is at 25:50
Thank you!
1:25 James u forgot that BMW were making the X5 before Porsche made the Cayenne during that time
Your second Porsche history lesson in quick succession! Both fantastically honest and thorough. Top class work.
I bought a Macan T over the S and have not regretted it one bit. As a daily driver in Los Angeles and for the occasional road trip, it's perfect. The savings went into my IRA and that makes me smile every time I drive my Macan T. When I'm ready for something sportier, I'll get a 911.
@GeorgeRuiz1 I am in the Los Angeles area as well, may I ask which dealer you got your Mecan T and if you was able to get a discount? I have looked at X1, Q5, even the Cayenne but coming back to the T. The other vehicles interior with the high tech screens and shifters are turn off for me. If you have time I like to chad about options and your experiences. Thanks! Oliver
ur point about the charm and even upmarket-ness of some analogue dials is spot on. feels like im rlly driving a machine
I bought one and absolutely love it! Specced the heck out of it with almost any nifty useful option and it is a very very nice car. Thank you for the review and awesome choice of music.
I’ve got one on order and it will be my first Porsche, coming from a GLC (diesel).
The test drive I did was eye opening on what a proper driver focused SUV can do on the road, power is not everything (especially whith speed limitations) but this handles beautifully and has just about everything you can possibly want on an open road.
A simple tune could make it go to the 300hp you talked about, but not sure it is needed! It’s a lot of fun for a SUV and as you said, it depends on your expectations. Mine were blown away and I can’t wait for it to arrive 🤩
You are 💯 spot on.
Update: took delivery of the car two weeks ago, and everything I said was confirmed with the few hundred miles I put on the clock. What a brilliant car! I can’t believe how different and more engaging it is to drive, and it is so much fun! All I want to do now is go with it anywhere and enjoy the splendid experience it is. I opted for the sport exhaust as well, which makes it that little bit more enjoyable, compared to the standard one I tested. Definitely a must imo.
@@SalomOon01 I’m looking to buy a Macan T and was wondering what your review is on the car given that you’ve owned it for a few more months. Thanks.
I just bought the base Macan for my wife. She loves it and does not drive fast or care about speed so she is happy. I get in it and the first thing I think of is "this needs more power". But hey, she's happy and therefore it saved me money. Also the price delta is different here in the USA. It is $6000 more for an S over a T and 12,000 more! from a base to an S. That is a big difference.
Why purchase a powerful lump of lard that your wife potters around in? Pointless.
a stage 1 tune easily solves the power lacking issue
@@liverpoolscottish6430 Yep. Agreed. That is why we didn't get the S.
Am I right in thinking based on Jay's interior shots, you actually have to put a key in to start it?
Yep
Great review😊 My better half just got one and I’m amazed how good it is. We test drove the GTS and it was overkill for her needs. The extra weight is very noticeable particularly when braking. The T sounds like a Golf R with the sports exhaust which was unexpected!
Great ride too😉
Because the engine is the same but less power. Not sure if it's a tuned up gti engine or a massively detuned R engine. But EA888 it is
@@mariemccann5895 are you suggesting his partner doesn't have a mind? That's very insulting to her. Please have more respect for the lady.
@@mariemccann5895 why are you assuming it's not her own decision determining if a car is too much power or not.
Contrary to popular believe, there is such a thing as too much power. #1 because the car can't deliver it properly or handle well enough to use it. #2 more commonly it is because it is redundant for the user who will never use it.
I chose a car that has only 280hp but in reality, 95% of the time I am in #2 because I cannot use it safely or want to.
@@TsLeng you removed your last comment 🤣
Nowhere in this guys comment does it say HE made the decision. Have a think about what you're assuming.
@@smoathdid you mean that Marie person removed their comment? I certainly did not remove anything and was replying to the same person as you.
I'm one of those people that would only have a black interior. Black always looks subtle and cool. Ages far better than a light interior.
can't win with interior colours, black is boring, brown is hideous, beige and white looks amazing but get dirty
Macan GTS is my daily driver... and boxster gts 4.0 is my nice weather car. You're absolutely right about the Macan being just about the best daily driver you can possibly buy. I think the Macan S is a actually even a better value than either the GTS or the T if optioned correctly such as with the relatively cheap red or beige full leather options which also gives you deviated stiching included. Air suspension is nice to give you softer comfort and sportier sport.
The Macan T is a great car and what we ended up buying after testing the Base, T and S.
For me, I absolutely love the deviated stitching interior and the seats. I paid 4k to get deviated stitching on my 911 (in addition to $4k for the upgraded leather interior).
For me, whatever SUV you drive will be compromised because of the weight. The T is just fast enough to be fun and the lower weight on the nose vs the S makes it a much more agile car (IMO). The T also feels quite a bit better on spirited drives relative to the base. The base sits higher and you can feel the T is a lot more planted.
Consider spec'ing a T and a S to truly compare the price. For me, the S would have cost $10k more than the T after options so the choice was clear.
Having a 992 C2S and Macan T, both are very enjoyable cars, for different purposes. I don't regret not opting for the S.
Good insight. We just ordered a T. S would have been $10 k plus more in Australia. Did you get different seats? .....we ordered the 14 way adjusted in black leather.
@@64mcrusader I kept the original seats. Those are sport seats (not the standard one on the base).
The standard Macan T seats are fantastic if you are relatively slim. They are super comfortable, especially with the T interior.
Well said mate. I got the T and no regrets. Far better handling then the S and all these extras you get. Plenty of power for Australian road speed limits. Enjoy 👍
thanks for the deep information . many of us doesnt know real different on user experience view . thanks . and What is the dislike about it?
@@64mcrusader Same here, we're picking up our Macan T next week. Can't wait!
First Macan I drove on a test drive was the diesel and I was amazed at how good it was. Even the engine delivered a surprising amount of power. I now have a 2017 GTS (3.0L) and I love it. They drive brilliantly and are almost sports cars in their drive and handling. Fast, sound great handle well for what they are, definitely feels a Porsche, and comfortable on long trips (air suspension a must).
As a golf r driver, I feel like this logical upgrade for us R enthusiasts
Not really though? It’s less powerful and heavier
Great video. james. Very informative and entertaining. Enjoyed this. A great car 👌👍
Thanks J, another good, honest review! 🙏🙏
The spec sheet readout😂🙌🏼 edit: I absolutely love that gold 911, black interior and all. Different strokes and all that…..😅
Unfortunately it was during one of the 2021 semi lockdowns, but I had a high spec demo base model for about 2.5 weeks as a courtesy car. I am definitely not a SUV fan and can rarely see the point over a decent hatchback (especially when I have been in daily's owned by friends and family). But as a guilty secret, I really liked the Macan 🙂
Excellent steering, handling and PDK do it for me. Two tons have never felt so light.
I did a dance to your "extensive standard equipment" list read. 😂 And I agree with your assessment of daily drivers. I think a lot of enthusiasts buy into the fantasy of cars rather than the reality. Something like a Cayman GT4 RS is pointless on the street.
Most probably yes, which is why I hate automotive journalists who review sports cars and claim 'they are the best', for the either couple of minutes they drove it, or in the 4 6 month ownership they had it while they daily drove a Yaris. Such sports car are typically weekend cars for the rich; not that it's bad, but anything beyond 400 horsepower as a daily becomes a pain in the ass, more than anything else. Porsches are just these cars. They are sports cars meant to be driven fast. he market nowadays is all about luxury and comfort more than anyhing else, and hence why the 911 isn't as demanded as previously, or the Cayman and the Boxster. If Porsche figures out the sweet spot, price included, they will become successful. BMW figured it out all too well.
@@emiliospowerballer1441 Please dude: don't give Porsche your cheap "advices" about "how to having success", you annoying clown!
WTF are you talking, dude???
Porsche today is an ultra successful and profitable carmaker since more than two decades and the sales figures of their two door sports cars like 718 and 911 are still very solid in a very difficult worldwide market today.
You are measering things with two different point of views. Of course one part of Porsche as we know it today is kind of a SUV manufacturer, who is using its profits for making the best sports cars on the planet. Porsche is doing very well with this kind of strategy, and with their more and more electrified lineup of worldclass electric SUVs and performance machines like Panamera and Taycan, Porsche will even have a more brighter future.
"Porsches are just these cars"... What???
Oh man, as if Porsche would be the only carmaker which is producing 400+ hp sports cars. You are telling absolute crap, dude!
Porsches are propably the only luxury sports cars on this planet, which still can be used as daily drivers, which you can't say about cars from some wannabe "legend" sports carmakers like McLaren, Lamborghini, or even Ferrari.
You are telling fucking crap dude!
It's a good thing then that compact suvs aren't pointless on the street vs their estate/hatchback brethren. For most things, in fact, they are strictly worse thanks to weight, air resistance and higher center of gravity.
the macan actually retaining a bit of off road capability means it shares the same redeeming qualities as a Cayman gt4 - pointless on the street, but with the potential to do something else better
re "a Cayman GT4 RS is pointless on the street":
A Cayman GT4 is NOT.
@Emilios, Porsche is more successful than ever (revenue 2011 = 10.9b, 2021 = 30.3b), so much so that they bought VW Group, which makes less sporting cars for appropriate buyers.
The day that Porsche makes luxury cars will be the death of the brand. (And 21st century BMWs are garbage. Ask any mechanic who repairs older cars).
@@ingrampowell9111 Hate to break it down for you. Porsche does not VW.
We've got the 2022 Macan GTS, and everyone in the family loves it. It wasn't our first Porsche, so when we test drove the 2.0 Macan, it felt slightly underpowered, so we went the V6 way and got the GTS, as a well-optioned S would be the same price as a GTS. Fantastic car, and at least in Brazil, you can sell them used for 30% more than you've paid. We've already taken it to dirt roads, and it was just fine. Even did donuts in the rain! You can daily it but also have fun with it, so it's perfect for us.
I can't help but think of an AMC Pacer every time I see one from the rear
That fuel economy isn't really any different to what I get out of my XKR.
Same with my v8 lexus!
So buy the diesel then…
So, just as expected then?
I had a macan s 2016 (that I recently changed for another 25:32 Porsche) and was really beautiful machine to drive. I like to watch your videos. Thank you for your reviews. Greetings from California. 🙏
You should be glad there is no panoramic roof - my Macan GTS panoramic roof pissed in water. Back to the dealer 3 times and they couldn't fix the issue. Car returned.
Had a go in one last year. Love the interior. Probably the best comfort I have had in a car. I'm a big bloke and it felt like a good pair of shoes
Had a similar one as a courtesy car for a week, was very well spect and good looking but hated driving it due to the lack of power and cramped seats, made me appreciate my Cayenne even more 😂
Thanks James, I finally get to use the word stoichiometric in a post! With this being a lowly 2.0L, Porsche probably mapped the engine in a way that makes a lot of it's torque low down and thus trying to mask the cars heft and lack of capacity. The problem with this is that small boosted engines tend to suffer from low speed/ medium to high load knock (predetonation). Thus stoichiometric A/F mixture isn't run and the car drinks fuel! Actually looked at one of these in 2015, 2.0t (237ps back then) had a 12 month waiting list. Macan V6 close to 3 years! Bought a F15 X5 40d instead!
Got to test drive one earlier this week and I agree. Phenomenal car, but I feel like I'd go for the S instead of the T.
I've got the Base Macan with a stage 1 ECU tune/remap which costs around $1500 and it's close to 300HP. So instead of paying $10000 plus for the Macan S which some say is the best value for money, the base with $1500 tune is almost similar speed to a Macan S with a lighter engine for the sportier handling dynamics. You can do this too with the Macan T and you would have the perfect and best value Macan.
Did the Porsche dealership do this or an independent third party? 300hp in a base would be amazing!
@@shawnwilson5905 Porsche Partner
And in the UK you would loose your Porsche 3 years warranty 🤯
Everywhere, but how would they know if there is no physical mods to see? also it only voids the engine if any faults, other faults like sunroof or brakes and suspension etc it would not void but yes it is a risk@@hpman911
tuning results in more wear and tear and engine lights with many codes that occur from time to time. I have 455hp S4 which runs well but gets codes the dealer has trouble fixiing but they try to.
I own a 2023 macan s. A total no brainer vs the T for all the reasons you have stated in the video. For an extra grand I got a slightly de-tuned macan gts with that amazing 2.9l v6 under the bonnet. It really shifts and as a former 911 owner I was pretty amazed at what I was able to do with one when I tracked a Macan S at the Porsche Experience Centre at Silverstone prior to delivery. If you pay a bit more you also get a very nice interior which feels miles plusher than what BMW and Other rivals offer. After a wait of almost a year for the car I can say it was worth the wait!
Have the most recent Macan GTS. Got to borrow a Macan T during a service and it is noticeably lighter in the front and more responsive, but the engine really is dull in comparison. The engine in the GTS makes it more of an occasion, it instill a will to push on, to rev. It simply sounds so much more exciting.
I’ve had multiple Macan loaners while my cars have been in for service. I’ve enjoyed all of them. If you spec a base pretty base then it’s fine. But totally agree on T vs S. The T doesn’t make much sense.
I’ve also had Cayenne and Taycan loaners. I never got out of those saying I’d like to own one. Unlike the Macan. Great vehicle. Surprisingly so.
Ive driven my Macan T a little over 2500 miles and I can say I'm pleasantly surprised. Mine does have some nice equipment but far from "fully loaded". That means I have Air-suspension (must have IMO), Panoramic roof (Not a must have for me), PDLS Plus (Don't know how good the standard lights are but mine are among the best Ive experienced), 360 surround view (save the money and go for just the rear-view camera) and adaptive cruise control (I never use CC so don't know if its any good). I also have the same interior as this one which I think is superb and people who've been riding in the car has complimented the nice fabric in the middle of the seats and the quality of the interior overall. What I don't have is the upgraded sound system, but the standard 150W system. Works fine for me, it sounds way better than any other standard system Ive heard, especially VWs, but would maybe consider upgrading to the Bose.
Im really impressed with the car overall, and the 4-cyl ea888 engine works better in this than any other car Ive driven with the same engine IMO (probably thanks to it being mounted lengthways and connected to the excellent PDK). Would recommend the car to anyone who´s in the market for a well-put-together SUV which rides and drives really, really nicely.
I've got the limited edition black Boxster S with 320 horses for play time and I'm picking up the Macan GTS. I test drove the base model and it was very nice but I've been spoiled with my Boxster S so I need the speed of the GTS. LOVED YOUR REVIEW
great review james! Spot on. I have this exact dilema. I'm changing my 6yo Macan 4 cylinder now, but the reality is that when you spec an S with the necessary extras (wheels, sport seats, exhaust, sunroof, etc...) its not 1k more but rather 8-10k more than the T (at least in switzerland). That coupled to the crazy CO2 taxes here, I think the T is probably the one for me!
High quality review! Cheers
I have just sold my 2019 Macan S after 50,000 miles as my daily driver. It has been great, so much so that I am collecting a new Macan S next week. It will have light grey leather interior and Panoramic roof.
I have driven the 4 cylinder versions too. They turn & dance nicely, but need more poke. They are not such good value as an S (value using Porsche metrics of course).
I have shoved my non Sport Chrono Macan along the roads James was driving with indecent enthusiasm and it is brilliant at that kind of driving.
I’m glad he liked it, I do too.
The value proposition is pretty market dependant.
In Australia, the T is only 3% greater than a Base. The S is another 20% more.
Our cars are also somewhat differently specified with everything from the larger fuel tank to comfort access standard already.
Great video. Brilliant delivery of the list of 'extensive standard equipment.'
I think people miss the point of the T….it does what the gts does without the power. It can be driven hard and loves the corners and back roads. It’s a proper driving car of the suv world, it doesn’t have the power, so what! It’s well damped and the suspension is excellent. The whole argument of T vs. S is silly too. £500 more gets you as S, but the S is then short of 7k of options. No GTS suspension but has a v6 so you can go quicker in a straight line lol. It also pains me to see people delete all the T parts like the unique seats and decals and wheels. A standard T in the U.K. is about 12k over list and could rise further with this EV nonsense and macan electric, when people will want to stay ICE. My other car is a 718 gt4, like a geek they match in crayon 😂
Very enjoyable review! As the owner of a 2023 Macan S, I think your descriptions throughout your review are spot on. For anyone who enjoys driving their car using a "sporty touch," you really need to move up to the 6-cylinder, twin turbo models. However, the comfort and handling of all the Macans are excellent, especially if you get one with air suspension.
Good stuff JM 👍🏻
We had two of these, both with those amazing seats. An SD and a Turbo. Both equally good btw.
Did you get the 14 way or the 18 way seats?
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Er I can’t 100% remember as I’ve had a few cars since!
They were both the same sport seat option though.
Selling my GTS and bought a Macan Base for my partner, it's perfect for the daily commute and airport run 👍
I on the other hand have a Spyder coming 😊
Recently bought a heavily specced ‘s’ to use as a daily .
I tested all its competitors and it is head and shoulders above them.
Fuel economy is woeful though averaging 25mpg and never managed more than 30mpg.
That’s as good as you can expect from a turbo V6 in a 2 ton car
I bought the Macan T Dec 22
My wife loves to cruise around town and suits her lifestyle perfectly.
No regrets. If it were for myself I might of upped the ante to the S model.
We compared the ride to a Stelvio and to be honest the Porsche felt more refined and handled better and just as important , looks better too imo.
"My wife loves to cruise around town and suits her lifestyle perfectly." 🤡
Totally agree with the dialog about Porsche buyers optioning all Black interiors!
Recently bought an used Macan Turbo Performance Pack with the 3.6 V6 , 440 PS, 600 NM of torque and it's really fun to drive. The engine / exhaust sound is way better than on my 718 GTS 4.0, it's ridiculous !
Just done 7000 miles in one of these and absolutely love it! You're right about the four-pot motor - 300bhp and a fruitier exhaust as standard would have helped to distance it from the base 2.0 - but the T's dynamics are superb and its unique chassis/torque-split set up really benefits from the weight saving over the front wheels. (This is one of the lightest cars in its class, which - unlike the V6 models - means I can tow Boxster/Cayman sized cars on a lightweight alloy trailer for work without getting into tachograph territory.) Taken in isolation the price does look a bit steep compared to the S, but factor in the T's standard spec and likely depreciation (i.e. low lease payments) and this might be the cheapest premium SUV ownership prospect built by Porsche or any of its rivals. I share your contempt of coal-hole black interiors, James, so I ditched the part-cloth upholstery and opted for the Black/Bordeaux Red two-tone leather interior. Same superb electric GTS seats, looks fantastic, cost just £176!
I was wondering about the lack of weight with the 4 cylinder, that’s interesting. I think you’ve probably got the best spec, I think 260hp is enough power to have fun and keeping your license in the UK. Also, I’m curious about whether you have the air suspension fitted as I’m wondering whether that could soften the ride even more compared to the adaptive coil overs. I often drive through towns which is full of bumps
@@Adamlllllllllllljjjljljjjjj Spec of our Macan T is close to standard (+ bargain leather upgrade, memory seats, tow-bar and and reverse camera) so it's on standard springs with PASM which is soft enough to smooth out the worst urban potholes and speed humps in comfort mode. Only beefs with Macan T are minor electrical gremlins, which never occur in presence of supplying dealer (front parking sensors regularly detect phantom obstacles when driving at low speed and rear seat belt warning occasionally chimes when seats are unoccupied) and the hopeless reverse camera. Only spec the reverse camera if you need it to help with trailer coupling or don't mind wiping it clean every time you plan to travel backwards. It's mounted close to road level, doesn't retract when not in use and is always obscured by water/dirt.
@@iainini oh fair enough. I thought coilovers on the macan we’re gonna be firm but that’s nice to know for UK roads. I didn’t know about the electrical issues tbh. The Range Rover velar/ evoque get shredded for pieces for electric issues but I guess it’s just not them. Thanks
Absolutely brilliant writing!
I had a Diesel S Macan on steel springs when it first came out and kept it for 90,000 miles it was very good everywhere but became a little bit long in the tooth. MPG was unto 44mpg and around town 23/25mpg. I then bought an absolutely fully loaded Macan Turbo (2.9L petrol) from Porsche Centre Swindon as my everyday car which around town returns 15-17mpg but on a run at a true 70mph gives me 29-35mpg which is frankly astonishing. I always use the super unleaded fuel usually from Sainsbury's but lately fill up with BP Ultimate which has been giving me the highest MPG figures. (is this a well known phenomenon ?)
James the beginning of this episode had me in stitches. You're a brilliant presenter and very funny with it. Thanks for this review. Brilliant.
I sometimes wonder if reviewers are actually using 99 octane because the difference in mpg is noticeable.
This is why I subscribe to this channel and not all the huge car channels. You talk about cars from a daily driver perspective. Not every 'sporty' car is to be driven like you are at the race track. You talk about real world driving and in traffic.
Saw a Macan T on the M27 this afternoon. It was in this exact colour too.
I absolutely agree with his rant against boring interiors. I'm currently looking at a used McLaren, either a 12C or 650, and they all have a plain black interior. This is a supercar, it's meant to be over the top and extrovert, it has doors that open upwards, most of them have bold colours like Volcano Red or Mantis Green, it's meant to exude surprise and delight. And yet every single 12C or 650S currently on the used market, with only one exception, has a black interior.
Have to agree - trying to find any car without a black interior or that chavvy privacy glass, is becoming increasingly difficult.
In 2014 I detested the then-new Macan as a niche cash grab. Nearly a decade later, I'm smitten and aspire to own an electric version (I probably won’t be able to afford it). Anyway, well done, including the nice blue/green plaid shirt!
Thanks, really good review and very informative. There is one question that no one seems to answer- what’s the difference between the T and GTS - both are considered the more driver focused version so they are the same (but one has more power). It seems they are competing against each other to me
T = 4 cylinder, GTS = V6
@@nizm0man yep, I get that, it’s more power but they both call themselves ‘driver focused’ I sort of think one should be called GT and the other GTS for same thing but more powerful?
The Macan T actually does have keyless ignition, and a memory driver's seat and exterior mirrors standard (at least in the US). But I can see in the video they are not included in the UK.
I have a black 911 with a black interior, that's what I wanted. I did not buy it for resale value, I bought it because it was closest to the spec I wanted.
Thanks!
The T is for me with Its distinctive looks, its driver focus, and its good performance.
It’s a slippery slope with Porsche and after driving the Base, T, S, and GTS, the T was the best fit for me as our family vehicle. It’s quick enough around town and I love the way it felt from behind the wheel. However, I do agree that tuning it to the 315 HP Golf R power level would have been just right to slot it comfortably between the Base and the S, even if that meant a slight bump in price.
These are brilliant cars. A mate has a very high spec 2016 S Diesel which he's had from nearly new, been in it plenty and have driven it and honestly I'm not sure there is much out there that makes for such a good daily driver.
It drives like a sports car, far more so than you'd expect given its Q5 roots (Porsche worked wonders on the chassis), is quick, the PDK gearbox is other worldly in terms of speed of change and choice of gear and feels special in a way a Q5 could only dream of, even at 7 years old. I'd say literally the only thing that lets it down for me is rear space as it's not as good as you'd think it would be.
Shame the 6 cyl diesels disappeared as I think these suit these far better than the 4 cyl petrols
Splendid. A California Friend Owns One and Raves About 30:37 Its Quality a Performance!!!!
Nice Porsche history/finance lesson!
I like black interiors, the gold 911 pictures with plain black interior is what I would order.
There's a reason nearly all porsche owners go for a 'dark' interior James. Well there's a couple, one of which is when it comes to the selling the car, I believe it holds it value better in porsches, when it's a black/dark interior.
Just had an idea , thinking about all these hard riding cars with stiff suspension.....how about suspension seats? Then you could have the stiff ride that seems to be necessary and not break your back.
They use them in boats sometimes. I'm sure car makers could come up with something. I'd be surprised if nobody had thought of it.
Adjustable seat damping .....has if ever been tried?
I am looking at the Macan S now to buy this year and found these factoids and superlatives interesting. I now think the sweet spot is a 2021/22 for me but jury still out whether or not I return to the Porsche family. Jaguar EPace is also in review.
I bought a Macan Turbo back in 2018, I had to have the fire breather, and its quick, but a little thirsty on petrol. I've driven base models and I think they're quite good - the handling/ride is almost a little better - its very tossable as its lighter and feels a bit more nimble. The GTI 4 pot turbo motor is good, and tuned for the Macan. Its a little sluggish off the line, to address that leave it in Sport mode and it drives very well.
I love motoring, but have barely driven anthing the past decade. Drove the original Renault Espace, my dad's car when I got my license. I liked sitting up high, but not that SUVs are the norm, does that still have the same added value over a hatchback, sedan or wagon? Loved the miiiiildly sporty Mazda 323F I drove to the junkyard prematurely (oh, it wanted oil?).
OK you sit up higher, but what does a Macan do for me otherwise, over say an entry level Panamera, Jaguar XF Sportbreak (I love that for looks and interior), Mercedes E, etc? Maybe a very basic question, but is an "SUV" worth it, if it's really a lifted coupé? GLS, that I can see. A theoretical R-Class, on a modern chassis and drivetrain, oh yeah baby! But a lifted Golf with a Porsche chassis and interior?
Great review! Do you think PASM is necessary for a Porsche Macan Base used as a daily driver? Can one really notice a significant difference in the driving experience?
PASM is always a must have option if you want it to handle at it’s best….
So true about the lack of basic standard features. I can
Kind of give them a pass on that stuff when it comes to their sports cars but on a compact SUV based on a q5? Nah…
I presently have a 718 Cayman T so am familiar with what you get as part of the spec. At first I thought it wouldn't make any sense on the Macan but it does. It's the usual formula, take the base model and add the driving toys and some agate grey trim, wheels etc. I love the cloth interior in my Cayman T so if going for the Macan T, I would spec it and am not bothered with having cow skin all over the doors or dash. The T does seem to be decent value when you look at what the S charges for similar options. If you want full leather in the T, it's far cheaper than full leather in the S. Same goes for wheels. The T wheels look nice but I'd rather they be 21, even though that goes against the grain of what an SUV is all about i.e. comfort. If I was spec'ing the T, I'd keep it standard and maybe add metallic paint and the painted trim on the exterior to get rid of the black plastic as it clashes with the grey. For a daily driver, the Macan T ticks all the boxes, sure it could do with some more power but I'm sure after the car is 3years old, a remap would be achievable.
I hate suvs but love my 2.0 macan - it is in the body shop and they gave me a q5 and I was afraid it would feel the same, happy to say they don’t drive anywhere similarly and I cannot wait to have the porsche back
Usa here... Bought a 23 cpo.. saved about 14k. For my needs it's perfect.. especially with the cpo warranty
I have an iPhone and a $60 wireless adapter. I love my Macan Turbo. My interior is white and brown too, which looks better than it sounds. I also have all those features the T doesn’t. Honestly, I’ve owned this car for nearly five years now and it’ll end up being 8 - 10, if I ever sell it. It’s that good.
Let us not talk about the fact it could have been Lemoned for the exhaust, it had a new transfer case, and door cards, and oil leaks. Warranty is good.
Bought my wife a 2017 Macan S diesel.
Great looks silver paint and black wheels.
Only complaint is low speed diesel jitters and vibrations, and maintenance cost...
Bought myself a 2016 Lexus NX200t and I prefer lexus more as a daily family car. I do miss my porsche boxster s 987.2 pdk as daily though...
The Macan is a brilliantly handling SUV (I’ve owned two of them) It’s not without its flaws.. poor room for rear passengers for example, but it’s still good enough. Arguably a Golf is more practical. The Cayenne is also excellent (I’ve had three of them) but the minute you step back into a Macan, you feel the difference in agility.. bearing in mind that a Cayenne makes an X5 feel like a bus.. the Cayenne itself is still an excellent handling SUV, which highlights just how good the Macan actually is. Great review!
wow u make a clear differences in between those car of choice many of us had thinking which is the best . Now we know .. thanks
Fantastic video bro 😅
I bought a 2022 Macan and I have to admit, coming from a 2010 F150, its an absolute dream and the most fun I've ever had driving a car. I know there is faster, I know there is sportier, but it's my car and I'm in absolute love. Would I like a GTS? Sure!! I'll get one later :)
Black interior is beautiful !
5:04 dont forget the Cayenne GTS which is exactly what you've just described
Volvo's also allow you to turn off the lane departure warning and it stays off permanetly if you do.
I love the brutal honesty here, it makes all the positives you highlight really mean something. I can’t wait to get my hands on one of these, they’ve always looked great to me. I want to see what childseats I can fit in the back and if I double buggy gets in the boot 🫡
Most Decent Macan Ts are around £72/75k a mk3 gts can be had for £10k more running costs will be higher but prob worth it! I recently sold my gen 1 Macan GTS I’ve regretted every day since….
7:51 gasped at the price and the colour 🤯
I seem to recall the first time I watched this James said it would be great with a 5 litre naturally aspirated V8, but I've just watched it again and never heard that line.
Might be an older Macan review
Funny, because our Macan (2020) has wireless CarPlay. Maybe an option? Because we have the premium package on the base model. Also we have a pre-pandemic electric steering column, which the Macan loaner I had did not have, and which you can't even get on a new 911 these days.
Could you try the new Prius AWD (non-PHEV, please)? Maybe you'd like it for a DD.
not having Android Auto is very frustrating
Black and grey interiors make perfect sense. You don't want excessive drama and distraction in the cabin. You want the perfect environment in which to relax for long cruises, or focus on spirited drives. If there's splurges of colour all over the place on the interior it's going to grow tiresome very quickly.
I disagree - I *get* black interiors, and if I was a parent I'd want nothing else - but to have exclusively black in cars, especially when combined with privacy glass, is just dull
The one I drove was white with a stunning red interior
IMO, the moniker sporty SUV is on a par with running wellies or off-road stilettos.
Interested in your view of the X3 M40i? My family is growing so I’m in the market for a quick suv, but the Macan S is fairly small and becomes silly money if you get basic options.
BMW, are you listening to James regarding analog dials?! Let’s have ‘em back please! Very nicely done in the Macan.
Just one question which for me is obvious, wouldn’t you just go and get the Golf or S3? What’s the SUV format giving us except for a taller wind break!!
I own a MY2023 Macan GTS and as someone who spent far too much time on the Porsche configurator I thought I would add my opinion. The S does make a good value proposition compared with the GTS depending on the spec you choose… the difference in cost between the S and GTS was around £1500 when I applied my spec to each car. Add to that the fact that the all Porsche GTS products seem to hold onto their initial value better than the S models I couldn’t not buy the GTS.
Take a look at 4 year old, low mileage T’s, S’s and GTS’s… the T and the S are about the same value and the GTS is 10-15k more expensive so it may be better to pay more upfront to lose less in the end 🤔 ask me again in 4 years 😂
I’m looking to order a mecan ..I( currently have a mini ) only drive 8k miles a year but will be making more road trips on the motorway. So confused between the base model and the T as both have the same engine. Would spec up both cars, dealership pushing the T but the miles I do is it really worth the 5k extra, I feel not. I’ve watch soooo many comparison videos between the two models but no further forward - help need please !
2:48 😂😂😂 absolutely killed me