1000cc Bike for BEGINNERS? The Truth About Liter Bikes...
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There’s a guy here on TH-cam started on a Ducati Panagale V4. Based his TH-cam channel on the experience. He started in low power mode (about 130HP). He respected the bike and had no problems. Never crashed it nor dropped it. He now rides a v4 streetfighter. The channel is ‘Coolin With Jay’.
i was honestly thinking of doing the same. maybe a v2 or a 899 ducati.
Doesn't make too much sense when a used r6 costs just as much
@@TimtimziI’m starting on an mt10, 0 experience with a bike. Just gonna ride it in the low power mode and take it slow
@@FullSendNationme too 😂
I started on an R6. Seemed fast at the time. Then bought an R1 and now I know what fast is. But I'm glad I didn't start on a litre bike.
should i start on a r6?
@@filipzelenika1564 I did but I respected it til I got many months under my belt
I think maybe the mistake was buying a new bike. I did a video about this not long ago, but I always recommend buying your first bike used and in the winter. Ride it for 5-6 months, establish your foundations as a rider, then sell it for profit in the summer and buy what you really want.
@@filipzelenika1564 Don't buy a bike built for racing for a first bike. Can't believe that still needs saying. There's a reason the R6 is the most crashed bike in the country. Dopes like OP buying it when they don't know how to ride. R3, Honda Rebel, Ninja 650, MT03... all great bikes that are plenty fast enough. Buy used and resell it in 6 months for what you paid for it or more.
Lol same here man , rode r6 for a year then hoped on a s1000rr to see how it is. Way too powerful for a newbie I wouldn’t start on a 1000cc , maybe after a couple of years of constant riding then you can upgrade and STILL have to be careful and have respect for the bike.
I started on a gsxr 1000 and I'm still commuting on as I leave for work in about an hour. 3 hours each day, it's all about mentality.
So would you say the Gsxr 1k is somewhat behaved for street use , and also how long did it take you to get used to the seating position ?
@@jayrock497 Honestly I think a stock Gsxr 1000 is perfect for the street. The liter bikes start to get twitchy when they are tuned and modified sprockets. Which I have and it's still not the end of the world. Seating position is honestly the most comfortable of all liter bikes I have sat on 💯
@@biglefty08 Right on brotha , thank you for the info.
I agree 100% and I know the power can be fun but deadly too.
amen to that . all about what youve done can do and your confidence on a sport bike engeneral .
I have an R1 and 2 R6's , I love then ALL . I think discontinuing the R6 platform is a BIG mistake !!!!!
Why would you have 2 r6's? Can only ride one at a time haha.
honest question😅
@@jakecastelein1776 Jake , Great question ! One is an 05 , The other is an 06 , This was a Big change Year for the Yamaha R6 !!!! Massive Differences in Power out put per Rpm range , and jumping between the Two
Is Making Me a better Rider !!!!!! Jake Get on one of these Bikes and LIVE !!!!!!!!!!!
@@snowflakesuperbike8294 thanks for the reply bro! Okay yeah that makes sense.
I am saving up for one man ill get there💪
I don't know about that 600cc theory bro! I got a 2017 R6 as my first bike and I love it! Glade I didn't go smaller and question if I should have gotten the 2017 R1. The modes on these new bikes make a big difference. Rode my R6 around in the lowest mode first few weeks and gradually gained confidents. Now it's been in A mode(fastest) for about 3 years 🤣. With in the first year I figured out I could have did the same thing with the newer R1🤦🏾♂️. Best thing I can say to beginners is take MSF course figure out your capability and go from there (note these bikes are fast, but I'm sure you know that if you did your researched). 😉
Great video, my first sport bike was an R6 and I really enjoyed it. The weight and seat height was good.
Because the power didn't come on till 10,000 you could ride it around town without scaring yourself accidentally.
Exactly i had a 06 r6 it was perfect! Had to like try really hard to wheelie it, handled amazingly could do like 167mph
Let’s be honest. The answer, as always, is “it depends”
the answer should always be: No
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always
@@rignahh1661 😂 nah bro Fee is right. It depends. I started on an 08 CBR600RR. I turned out just fine. Circumstances that I believe led me to being fine. Mid 30’s, came from the car scene ( SRT-4, RSX type S supercharged, Focus ST, FOCUS RS, Jetta GLI VR6, R32) so the clutch part and shifting came real easy for me.
Fact is everybody is different and come from different backgrounds. So like Fee said, “it depends”. 💯
@@jasontodd9302 Same, started riding when I was 26 on a 675. Also came from the car scene, still havent taken a fall...yet
this is actually a good video when talking about beginner riders who wants a 1000 cc bike . alot of channels that i see either tell u not to get or get a 1000cc bike . u give a proper explanation and much clearer advice and info . at the end of the day if ur gonna get a 1000cc just ride it on low power mode for atleast 6 to 3 months and within those 3 to 6 months just practice drills refresh the basics that u learn in riders school n don't full throttle it and take it slow . once u buy the bike its not gonna go anywhere . 2 main points and very important points are:1-dont go on group rides until u get used to riding a bike and have good control over ur bike
2-dont listen to ur frens when they tell u to go faster ,ride at ur own pace and ur comfort zone . if ur frens have been riding and have experience they might laugh at u for riding slow and tell u to go faster . but plz take ur time cuz at the end of the day its ur life that u will be putting in danger n not ur frens so just take it slow keep practicing drills n njy those baby steps ur taking cuz the feeling that u feel when ur just starting only happens 1's . these points also apply with any cc bike u r buying just taking slow . its dangerous enough for us riders anyways so baby steps guys baby steps.
🏍😁✌
Great information 🤙
If you know you want to end up on a liter bike, get a liter bike to start. As a new rider who never rode anything, I listened to all the noise and got a SV650... great bike... and I outgrew it and got bored in one month. I did dozens of hours of research, watched dozens of YT videos, read many forum posts and literally everyone was saying the same thing, so I figured they must be right. For me, THEY WERE ALL WRONG! I now regret it every time I ride. I have to save up for my next bike, which is a BMW S1000rr, and I'm stuck with this slow bike. I listened to all the people who said, "a liter bike is way too much bike for a beginner", "you can have just as much fun on a 650". This is absolute garbage. It's like saying you can have just as much fun in a V6 Honda Accord, as you can a Ferrari. Total nonsense. Everyone's different though. If fun to you is moderate acceleration, you have no interest in going faster than 120mph, and/or you know you are reckless and have no inherent coordination and skills... then YES get a starter bike 100%. If you know you want to end up on a liter bike, you want to go 140mph, and have even a fair amount of confidence in your maturity and composure; then get the liter bike. I never rode and was entirely dependent on other's experiences and was totally unsure and apprehensive; if you're on the fence and unsure if you can handle a liter bike, but have a good feeling you can, YOU CAN! Most all modern super sports have low speed modes to learn on, like the guy said in the video. Even if its an older 1000, just take it easy and start slow... you'll be up to speed in literally 2 weeks. Even though 95% of riders will tell you different, 95% (probably much less) of riders aren't interested in super sports, and they're NOT talking about riders like me, and potentially you. Don't let anyone scare you off your path. For someone like me, a "beginner bike" was a complete waste of time, and NO, it's nowhere near as fun. I rode my friends GSXR1000R and my 650 is nowhere in the same universe of fun.
Same boat buddy took my test on sv650 now the way the instructors and other speak about the power gap from 125 to 600cc is like the 600 will kill you.
Anyways when we got on the road after a few sessions the sv650 just felt gutless like a 125 and I was disappointed. People made out that it'll tear your head off. Anyways I've decided to be a bmw s1000r gen 2 as my first bike.
I'm glad to see you comment highlighting this. As I'm also a person who relays on others opinions so there are people who are like you. Like myself.
I feel bad for you that you now have to deal with a slow bike. As now that's money wasted a year of insurance and tax and fuel. All of which could've gone towards the purchase of the bmw and you'd actually be happy.
Tru. I actually have a v6 Honda accord and I wish it was a ferrari 😳 I also started on an N400 and wish it was a zx10r
The biggest reason for me for going to a liter bike is the quality of life, I had a Ninja 650, and I wanted a touring bike, now if I went for a Versys 650 it's nearly identical to my Ninja 650 save for a bit comfier seating position and maybe the 12v lighter port. However the S1000XR I got instead has lean sensitive abs, cruise control, heater grips, adjustable windscreen, remaining range indicator, dynamic suspension, all of these you just simply dont get on sub 1 liter bikes. Even BMW's own F900XR misses 80% of these features, and this doesn't even mention the significantly higher quality components (4 piston radial brembos vs 2 piston nissins etc ), and significantly better suspension
That glorious R1 sound🔥
I feel like yamaha should keep the R6, yamaha fans should have options I feel, I already have an R1 but I know one day I will want one of the newer model R6 🏍️👌🤞
I think they will do something to fill that price point seeing people do want a sport focused bike but may not want such a big bike or want to spend the money for a liter bike. So I’m curious
It's as simple as they're not selling. It's unfortunate, but money is money
well americans should have gotten them instead of just wishing for them there no longer to be sold in the US because no one was buying them
I just picked up the 2020 r6 3 weeks before the announcement 🍀
Should have bought one sooner along with many others 600 ss don’t sell anymore
My first bike was the 390 Duke and it’s been amazing. I’ve ridden my dad’s 790 Duke a bunch of times and it’s so crazy fun having all that power on tap, but the lightweight 390 is so much better for honing my skills and teaching me to ride well, not just fast. I think the 400-500cc class is where it’s at - enough power to have an amazing time, but not too much to just be relying on it all the time to have a good time before you know how to brake and corner like a champ.
I started on a brand new 2019 CB1000-R which i bought last year. I am 43 Y/O who last rode a 125cc scooter when i was 20 years old. I am riding my CB1000-R in Standard mode all the time going from south Carolina to NYC, NH and Maine. I've already jacked 10,000 on the Odo. Keeping my distance, good control of the throttle and speeding only when on open highways away from Traffic Clusters 🙂 2 chanel ABS Tokico brakes, Traction control, engine brake & slipper assist Clutch all come to the rescue with liter bikes so it is up to the rider to be in charge of his/her ego. I personally ride while keeping in mind that those safety modes don't exist.
Love the vid bro keep up the great work. Be safe out there 💯🖤
Last year I sold my Tuono, which is a 170+ hp 1077cc bike. I bought a 2019 R6. So much happier with it. No longer feels like it's always trying to kill me but still plenty of power for street riding.
If you lust after a litre bike watch how fast he's actually riding here. If you don't actually want to ride 100+mph everywhere, you don't need it. And you don't. It's fun, but it's going to get you in trouble
Love the channel man, and that s1000rr, is beautiful
You’re never safe on a motorcycle. A slower bike will keep you “safer” from your own stupidity, but that’s it.
True I live in India and crashed a 100 cc commuter bike at 20kmph, I since waiting to get my new 125 cc but once I move out of country I will look forward to buy a 1L bike
Edit in India animals are open on roads, it doesn't matter how much power your vehicle makes because you are going to stuck in traffics for hours, and anyone can pop up anytime.
I started on a 1200cc Triumph Bobber and I would never look back. Starting on a faster, heavier bike teaches you things that most riders don't understand for years down the road. Whenever you do get on a smaller bike, you feel like you have absolute control of everything. Getting back on a bigger CC bike is just memory at that point. My Bobber is the best thing I could've asked for. Definitely NOT for starters but I said to hell with it. Now I'd never go back.
My first bike was a fz6r and it felt super fast to me. I had it for a year until I had to sell it, rough time. Now I am looking to get a liter bike soon!! But Ive been around bikes a lot of my life.
Started on an R3 and loved it. Learned to wheelie which I think is better on a smaller bike. Waiting for my R6 to be shipped to my local dealer now 😬
R3 is a fun af bike. You ever try the track on it?
I needed this video. Thanks man!💯
Super happy you posted this cause i was in the process of buying a 600 and the day before i was supposed to go pick it up the guy said he didn’t want to sell it anymore. I told him it was a little messed up but i wasn’t too hurt about it because i was already second guessing getting a 600 vs a 1000 because i know i can leave it in b mode for a while till i get use to the bike. Plus how much you get for the very little price difference is totally worth it.
Hey bro you still alive ?
@@VADER3223 yup. And super happy i went with the R1. Austin racing exhaust sounds mint and liumoto seat with the good gel fixes the uncomfortable seat issue.
@@JUS-DEH-TEEP Your an absolute ledgend bro
Supposed to be 77 and sunny here in FL tom. I will be on my S1R.
I think it depends on the person and there ability to learn and adapt also how mechanically minded they are. If you a fast learner you can ride just about anything. When it comes to riding a 1L bike on the road it is very fun and also not at the same time if you consider other road users, we have a lot of SH#T drivers in my country and a lot of traffic. Some days I wish i was on a 600cc so i guess it all depends on your situation.
Great video man !
Started on an 07 gsxr 600 had it for 2 months and rode 1500 miles and sold it
My first street bike was a r1 but I had 20 years experience riding and racing dirt bikes
Watching til the end (like always) and coming across a street triple compliment just warms the heart
My first bike is a 390 KTM, plan on buying a Z H2 next year. For all things mentioned in this video, I'm not worried about managing its power, helps I'm older and pretty responsible. God, can't wait.
I started on a GSXR 750 moved to CBR 1000RR and now I ride a Hayabusa and I enjoyed every Motorcycle I’ve ridden!
I oficially started on a '05 Fireblade with streetfighter setup back in 2014 and I still ride the same bike today. I must say that if you have a good functioning brain, this specific liter bike is very friendly towards beginners. Above this, you'll never feel the need for another bike once you get the hang of it as It can be stupidly fast, put out Ferrari like acceleration, heck it goes to 299km/h with stock settings, and more with mods. Ride smart and you'll be safe ;)
Just saying, I started on a 08 CBR600RR. First season was awesome! Second season added Toce exhaust, ECU flash, K&N filter, Arrow header. WOW 😳....that made it a different bike 💯
@Aaron Ferguson the MotoDynamics headlight conversion
I love it. A definite move in the right direction.
The great strength of 600s that you didn't mention though is the price. Like you said, a 600 and a liter bike are basically the same thing unless you're really ripping the 1000 or going over 120mph but you can get a used 600 in good condition for 6 or 7 grand, less if you will take a more beat up example. 1000s are inching towards 20k new, a good example will be costing a pretty penny if you are going for the used market.
Thank you for making this video. Im in my early 40s and buying a friend's 05 R1.
I rode some in my early 20s some street bikes and dirt bikes but never anything above a 600cc. I never rode consistently either. But this video helped put my nerves at ease.
I figure 90% of its mental getting back riding again, and many videos on here say stay away from the 1 litters when starting out.
I started on a S1000rr and I love it
still rocking it?
If you are mature, have experience with really fast cars, are physically fit, and can afford it....there is nothing wrong with starting on a liter bike. I think liter bikes are great for the street, I own 3 of them with 2 of them producing over 200whp, absolutely brutal machines. Realize though that you will have a much steeper learning curve than starting on a smaller bike. I'm currently looking for something between 400-600cc as something I can practice wheelies on, abuse on the track, and not feel bad when I eventually put it down.
The only reason why starting on a 600cc vs a 1000cc is the throttle being twitchy and heavy. These aren’t the case with the newer liter bikes. They’re lighter and have diff power modes so it’s more forgiving.
Adjust the throttle cable
enjoyed the video!
Learning on my brothers busa, no issues so far. I'm familiar with machinery and driven all over the place. Respect the machine, don't go outside your skill envelope and you'll be fine
Ride on bro 💨
I currently got a 2019 zx6r and want to upgrade to a zx10r but insurance is the only thing holding me back. Liter bike insurance is crazy for younger people
I just got a GSX-S1000F for Christmas. Its my first bike and I absolutely love it.
damn who got you that? Or did you get it yourself? lmao but seriously how well does it perform?
@@jackmcinnis4510 my wife got it for me lol. Today I went for my first group ride and it was amazing. Takes turns like a champ and has so much power at just a little twist of the throttle.
There are alot of options out there for new riders today. The Kawasaki ZX4RR is a great choice. Yamaha has the R7 if you're not set on a 4 cylinder bike. Honda has the CBR650R. Just to name a few with less power than a 600cc supersport but have the styling of one.
And cfmoto is allegedly dropping a 675 triple and a 500cc inline 4, the question is whether it’s coming to USA or not
I actually started on a R3. I'm a responsible guy though and probably could have started on a R6. but the R3 allowed me to make mistakes without it biting me in the ass and I could pull back the throttle and still have some fun with it. I plan to get a R6 next even if it is discontinued, still a sweet bike and plenty of power for the road still. (I'm no Rossi haha) I would like to get the R1 one day but it's mostly cause I want that crossplane under me haha!
I found the R1 more road friendly than the R6 because you could do everything on the R1 that you could do on the R6 at a lower RPM, which meant more linear power and predictable throttle response. Still not really beginner friendly, but really no less than the R6. I wouldn't recommend either though.
What's your audio set up ? Really clean audio 👌🏽
I started on a 115cc scooter then an r3 now I'm on a 07 zx10r and riding slow bikes fast is more fun
Exactly bruh
💯💯 I would rather squeeze the performance out of a 250cc sport bike than baby a 1000cc
Zx25r would be my choice if available in USA
Love it!!!
I started out with a zx14r, and mainly because of how comfortable it was to ride. Plus I’m 6’3 220lbs. So a 600 was not an option at allllll. After my zx14r I got the bike I really wanted a bmw s1krr. And to be honest starting out on my zx14r was probably the best decision I made when I first started riding. It’s all about the person riding some people can’t handle a stupid powerful bike and don’t have discipline to control and some people do.
What I’m doing is, I got a 2016 s1000rr and paid for it in full so I can afford full coverage. I’m also going to get a 650 to start on because they're cheap. But mainly for learning how to ride in traffic. I’d be keeping in in rain mode for a hot while. Didn’t get a 1000 to go super fast. Just so it can comfortably do a little over in not that high of rpms. (Obviously not right away, that’s just pretty much all I want) but I don’t plan on riding it quickly. I just know the s1000 had a lot of rider aids. I have a decent amount of throttle experience, just not a not in traffic. Which is why I’m getting a 650 as well. I didn’t want to get a 600 because I didn’t want to spend that much for a step and on a bike I didn’t want. Also, I got the s1000 before the 650 because it was a really good deal and didn’t want to wait and pay more
I am an experienced 50cc rider after watching this video I am gonna upgrade to a Turbo busa
and twin turbo it
@@ivanpekic3544 ohhh great idea 💡 thx mate will sure do it
Started on a r1 had a blast with it, I don’t regret starting on it, but I do believe the 600 would’ve been a better option. With that being said I rode dirt bikes growing up so I was familiar with motorcycles.
I’ve grown up with dirt bikes.
2 completely different worlds. Only thing you have a Advantage in is “only” knowing controls of a bike.
Power is a complete night and day experience.
How did you keep from unintentionally ripping wheelies on your R1? I would think someone new to a liter bike would mistakingly crack the throttle open....
Lets be honest here a bike will only gan fast if you turn the throttle more simples
I just got back from riding my Grom on the beach in south padre island. And it was the most fun I’ve had on a motorcycle. I would never do that on a bigger cc motorcycle
Can’t really argue with that honestly, i have a 750 gsxr 2012, its stupid fast, yet i enjoy riding a 250 CRF’s Honda much more
WOW !!! That quickshifter.. no clutch up or down ?! Wow, game-changer.
Got one on my 2005 Kawasaki z750
My 1st bike was a Z750S. So I started with a naked bike. Loved it. But now I have a 06' R1, and won't ever look back.
i started on a 2006 zx6r... rode that for 6 years then got a 2011 zx10r. i think you can start on whatever you like if you can afford it and your right hand is connected to your brain. i rode a scooter in ibiza on holiday and it was soo much fun, but was that because i was on holiday? or because i have a zx10r at home? who knows. bikes are just fun. stay safe. love from scotland 🏴
I started on a 125 at 17, rode that for 2 years before I did the test at 19 allowing me to ride anything up to 74bhp, so I bought a 2nd hand MT-07 and had that for near 3 years where I took another test at 22 to allow me to ride anything I want. After that I bought a brand new 2019 MT-09 and I've been happy ever since, now I have 6 years of experience and still don't have a litre bike, but want one.
Also, U.K. license rules are tough.
I had the MT-09 for about 2 years and bought a gsx s1000 and the power difference is insane. On the MT09 if you put it in 6th gear on the highway at 60-70 and full throttle it, it will gradually accelerate. On the 1000 it has tons of power. I don't have to down shift to pass someone. The difference from 900cc to 1000cc was night and day. The feeling you get with MT09 at lower speeds and torque are the same with the 1000cc but don't lose power at higher speeds
Damn these UK rules are wild wth. Here in the us literally get a litre bike at 16😂
I started on an Fz-09. Can't wait to buy an S1000rr. glad I started on the Fz, taught me how to corner, lean, and control my weight. Also I don't have to worry if anything happens because the bike is cheap and super easy to work on. I dropped the bike and lowsided it trying to learn corners, it's all apart of the process and good thing it wasn't a liter bike on that I crashed. Better to buy a cheap beater first
Lol damn that’s a hell of a first bike
@@fandean3330 Hell yeah was a hell of first bike. Once I got over the fear of power I was doing power wheelies non stop, any straight or highway entrance. That coupled with how fast you get to 132 and the torque. Best money I’ve ever spent.
@@alexanderswander8176 Haha oh I bet I have a 2021 flashed mt09 I love that thing. I’m starting to crave an R1 though😂😂
@@fandean3330 the mt09 is perfect just wish it had a higher top speed right? You feel like you wish you had more? And an R1 would be awesome! Just harder to wheelies unless you’re kilacam
@@alexanderswander8176 Yeah the top speed limiter sucks. I got it removed with my flash and hit 145 with some room to go so think it’s probably capable of hitting 150. Nothing compared to an r1 though haha I rode my friends and I must have one now😂
I am getting a cbr1000rr this year as my 3rd bike. This is going to be my first sports bike.
I have a gsxs 750 atm but I kind of lust fairings again after some significant highway use lol(rode an R3 before upgrading). I've been wanting a litre bike but the cost is ooofff. I think given the newest model bikes all have electronics(traction control/abs/etc) it does make sense why manufacturers would want to cut costs and push people to buy the litre versions since they DO have those modes that basically reduce the bike to a 600. It made more sense in the past for sure to have both since they didn't have electronic aides.
Started on a R6 and never looked back 😎
Will start on a 1000cc and never be able to look again
A friend of mine upgraded from a 390 duke to a 1000cc😉💥
Started on a gixxer 750 and same dawg, still haven't looked back 😎🤟
@DMoney Industry lol I was waiting for this one 🤣 great point🙏🏼
U can start at any bike if u have a brain and self control tbh
Great video this has convinced me to get a liter bike as my first!
me too.
Started 2 yrs ago on my zx10r... love it but its not fancy its an 04 first gen lol... and i went with 1 of the most powerful so i can have fun bud..... going 180+ ughhh so hot...now looking to go opposite and get like a z125/grom so i can practice stunting
My first bike when I was 15 (actually my profile picture still hahah)
Was a 2003 Suzuki SV1000s and I think that’s a perfect bike to start on
Comfortable
Tons of torque
Same “fast” as a 600
And you won’t outgrow or get bored of the bike after a few months
The ONLY downside for me when I got it being 120lbs teenager was the bike is heavy for a sport bike so I wasn’t comfortable walking it around if I wasn’t sitting on it
A true true beginner, I would say the 650 over the 1000
I’ve been “riding” since I was 5 so like
Guys like you who grew up on dirt and with pit bikes usually have the skills to go big for their "first" streetbike. People who've never ridden before should be on a 300 imo
@@beanwithbaconmegarocket no I still always highly recommend a sv650 or really anything in the 650 category if they want a “sporty” bike
For bigger people like my friend then I say the naked 1000’s
A bike you’re going to get tired of in a year is a waste of money
"Sir" the exhaust-endpipe look very well 👍🍀
I’ve been riding for over 40 years. I remember considering my first road bike back in 1986 and I never considered anything other than a 600. I knew I didn’t need anything more than that, I was very concerned riding anything bigger and no way considered a 1000. So, I definitely agree with you. My first bike was a ninja 600, then a gpz 750 then gsxr750, cbr929, R1, ventured into harleys for the past 10 year but now I have an S1000rr and a Harley. Best of both worlds but have the experience to handle both. Great info video right here.
According to my opinion, a KTM duke 390 is the best beginner bike
+1
maybe even start young with a 125
I would go with rc 390 bs6
Ninja 400 for me if you're small
no, in my opinion, a DUCATI V4R is the best beginner bike 😂
The r1 is a monster the shreds things apart and the s1000rr is a fine gentleman that cuts things down very precisely with a sabre
I liked the vid because it started on the R1 actually 2 seconds in
I started on a 07 r1. And now I'm riding 14 s1krr. It depends, but be honest, 600cc is better for beginners.
Really been thinking about getting a Buell 1125r as a first street. I've had a ton of 2 stroke dirt bike experience. I know it's a terrible idea but I really want one, they're hard to come by and one has come up for sale recently
Litre bikes can be as tame or as wild as you want. They have the potential for outrageous performance, but ultimately it's the rider that's in control. Riding a bike (any bike) is all about risk mitigation. It's an inherently dangerous activity, but you as a rider can actively do things to lower the risk. Picking the right moments to go fast (road with good visibility, little traffic, good conditions), and proper lane positioning depending on the situation are two huge examples.
I started on a Ninja 400 before getting a 2018 RSV4. I'm glad I went that route. I made some noob mistakes on the Ninja, and that bike was very forgiving. However, I've come to realize the RSV4 is just much more pleasant to ride on the street. It has around 5x the power (45 vs 201 hp), but it has very linear power delivery that's easy to control. With that power and torque you don't have to rev the nuts off the thing to get up to speed. The clutch is also so much better on the Aprilia. The super light clutch on the Ninja felt like a toy, and was hard to modulate. The brakes on the RSV4 will actually slow you down, as well.
The current crop of litre bikes is just amazing. They have great frames, great brakes, fantastic electronics, and are easy to ride. I still advise a beginner to steer clear of them. Things can happen fast on the street, and a powerful bike gets you there quicker.
I have a CBR 500r parallel twin as my first bike and my dream bike is a BMW s1000rr
I just started on a new liter bike for 3 months now and it's my first motorcycle. So far so good plus I'm riding safe and not crazy.
Nice man
What bike is it
Food for thought. The discontinuation of the R6 and all 600’s in the future is because MotoGP have stepped up to the 765. Also the introduction of the 800 and 900 cc bikes it makes no sense anymore for 600’s. With exception of the triumph Daytona 675r all the other 600’ s would have to be at high rpm to make any power. Thanks for the content your bikes are amazing. Keep up the great work.
Wait no more 600cc class?
My first bike is a R6 2020. Just dont be stupid, drive safe and you will be fine. Every ride you will learn more.
If you are stupid, you can crash in a 250cc, 1000cc or even a bicycle. 99% motorcycle accidents are the riders fault. Ride like you are invisible for everyone, go slow on curves and double attention on intersections.
When I was way younger my first motorcycle was a suzuki bandit 600cc I got for 300$ and bashed it for 2 years. Sold it got a 2001 cbrf4i 4 years ago, rode that and was super comfortable riding It. Someone stole it 2 weeks ago from today so I stepped it up and just bought a ninja zx10r let me say this man I never realized how small the 600s are until I rode this thing 😂😂
If you're located in Canada the insurance for a litre bike is just crazy...
How are they gonna pull you over to ask for it
I didn’t know swagbucks was still a thing🤣 I used that shit in like 2008
Exactly i thought that it died back in the days
I started on a 636 you'll be fine just respect the machine and don't let the power get to your ego and you'll be just fine
636Gang
sad to see the R6 go. they say that having an R1 (just used for context cause the R1 is the only liter bike i'd own) is like having an R6 cause of the modes is better. but, the insurance on an R1 is going to be that of a liter bike. i looked into it and having the modes doesn't get you a brake on the outrageous insurance lol. insurance would still be hella cheaper on the R6 just cause of the cc's. still tho, if i ever win the lotto, the only liter bike i'd own would be the R1 cause ... i mean that sound lol
I love the looks and performance of yamaha bikes, i currently ride a 2019 CBR 500R. I am planning on getting a R6 or R1 in the near future but still have no clue what to go with. I LOVE the looks of sportbikes! I also have many years of experience riding dirtbikes.
The 500r is my first bike but i have grown out of it pretty quickly
How do you like your 500?
@@bradymcrae7351 Love it but i want something sportier. I am a big fan of the display aswell.
Just bought a Kawasaki Ninja ZX10R for my first bike. Love it but respect it more👍😎
I started on my 954rr and wouldn’t change a thing. I just bought another one!
You're either a strangely sensible youngster (or very lucky to be alive), an older chilled bloke starting a little later in life, or full of shite lol
@@HalfdeadRider Definitely not full of shite. Definitely not an old bloke at 28. I’d say I’m fairly sensible yet slightly mad and absolutely lucky to be alive!
954s are slower than new 600s lol
@@86250r mustangs are slower than 954s
@@kmassey lmao plenty of mustangs that will gap a 954 or 600 bike. Just not mine currently lol
If I’ve been riding a cruiser bike ( Yamaha v star 1100 custom) since I got my license ( like 3 years ) a sports liter bike shouldn’t be too much for me right ? I wouldn’t need to drop to a 600 and then work my way back up to a R1 or something ?
I thought you were linking the r6 first ride
I’m buying a 1000cc motorcycle as my first motorcycle this week! I’m used to my little 125 cc dirt bike I can’t wait 😁
How is it?
@@mr.sir0173 it’s really nice got my first motorcycle at 17! Gotta wait till summer to full ride it though buts it was fun when I first picked hit up it’s crazy fast also
@@inflow8711 nice man. Yeah I have a 250 and was wondering how it was to get onto a 1000. I’ve ridden my friends cbr500r several times. What kind is it? Would you recommend?
@@mr.sir0173 I went straight from a 125cc little pit bike to the 1000cc lol but it’s a Yamaha FZ but It’s modded a lot I’m about to but a turbo in it
@@inflow8711 sounds good man. Just be careful on it.
Started off on a 02 r1 have a 2020 s1000rr now
I’ve got a Honda Africa twin 2021 manual and I’m 5’9 and my inseam is 32 IN with boots. This is my first bike and I took a driving course last week. And now have my license.
The bike is so huge and heavy it’s so scary turning it. The power is fine I can go shift into second and come to a clean stop. I practiced going up and down a hill no issues and stopping at an incline and going without rolling backwards got all that down. Got onto the road and practiced going and turning around within two lanes to the left and right but it’s so scary I don’t think I am going to be able to master it on this bike. In class I was doing circles at 25 mph no problem.
I guess I’m gonna pay it off and sell it to buy a new one maybe I’ll be riding in a year if I’m lucky.
Had to edit this my inseam is 32 IN with boots. But I ordered a kit that’ll lower the front and back 50 MM and a seat that takes off 30 MM
So between the two I should be good. And Honda said it wouldn’t void my warranty.
It depends in my opinion. If u ride in the mountain, 600cc are so much fun and u will notice the difference between 1000 and 600 for sure. Highway run yes 1000 cc is fast
I started on a 300 and should've gotten a 600 cuz I already had a little background in bikes but I just rung that thing out so much cuz I wanted to go fast and I ended up blowing the motor. First time I rode my gsxr 750 I scared myself so bad I was going to be safe lmao
Started off with a grom, went to Harley Davidson forty eight sportster (1200), then to a Harley David Dyna street bob (1600) those being V twin motors would anyone here help with a recommendation, debating between an R6 or R1 I feel like because of the Harley’s I’m right in between both bikes
I haven’t rode a ton but I need an opinion, I’m on a 250cc Honda rebel (1985) and it does what I need it to but I really want a sport bike, I don’t want to have to upgrade again from a 600 so I’m wanting a r1, what’s the opinion on this?
I just started on a cbr honda 1000 I was a little nervous but I'm good now o don't even get off the bike my wife ask me when I'm coming home 🤷🏼
it just depends if you are gonna be happy with a 600cc for a year, some yes some no, youll never have to upgrade from a litre bike so you never have to worry about money later down the line
I have an r6 and bro I hate when a semi truck comes up on me I try to stay in front or 2-3 lanes over
yeah i started on a gsxr-750 honestly that was a great bike to start on it was super mellow down low and a fkn rocket ship higher up in the rev. so you could puts around taking it super chill basically no way to get in trouble or you could send it. so as long as a new rider has some control over themselves not a bad bike. Now im bout to get a zx10 cant wait
I want a gsxr 750 or 1000 as a first bike. Is a h2 too much?
@@lifeonmars03 yes it has similar power profile to the zx1400 and I can say from experience it's not a starter bike. Unless you get new good luck getting a gsxr that's not beat the fk up overpriced or stretched. I have a 17 zx10 now because of that (love this bike now tough). Personally I would start on a 750 still has the power to ride with 1Ks but it tame enough to start on. My 1K has what feels like a 2 stroke power band it's kinda nuts
@@colt45lmer do you know whst the best year is to buy a gently used gsxr? I was just reading last night that they're aren't many changes during the years except color schemes. How often do ppl stick with a 750 & never upgrade to a more powerful bike? (Silly question, I know)
@@lifeonmars03 mainly just gotta look at the condition of the bike. I would just stay away from bikes with carburetors and stay fuel injected. Otherwise go for whatever. Also I mean unless ur like me a total adrenaline junkey a 750 would be fine to stay with they are still like 140hp or so. Mine was an 01 and did 0-130 in like 8 seconds and all I had was 1down 3up I think for the sprockets. Honestly even a 1k under 7k rpm the thing is a lazy turd.
@@colt45lmer lol I have a paxton coyote that makes 640 rwhp right now so I would consider myself a lowkey junkie. The goal is to get a h2, no lie. So I'll start with a 750 and work my way up. Appreciate you. I just didn't want to deal with the hassle of having to resale the 750 once I'm ready to jump to a h2. Guess I'll just keep it, maybe
I have a question, I have always wanted a street bike and alot of people say to start on a 600 but I am 6'5 and 210 I was told I'm a little to big for that bike🤷♂️ so I could possibly start on a GSXR 750 but to stay away from a 1000cc bike because it's been about five years six years since I've been on a bike. Looking for a second opinion if anyone has a better idea. 🤙