THE INCONSISTENT LORE OF TINKERBELL

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  • @AthenaPOfficial
    @AthenaPOfficial  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +387

    Download Love & Pies here: pixly.go2cloud.org/SH4LC
    Thanks to Love & Pies for sponsoring!

    • @complexcat3291
      @complexcat3291 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      hey athena! youve mentioned avater the last air bender here. its a kids show so can u plsss do a vid on it!

    • @cryingwolf511
      @cryingwolf511 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I would love you to review the storyline for this app! I know you're going to be punching the air with the bs happening xD

    • @stealthanimates
      @stealthanimates 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Omg ive had this game for over a year already and have never heard anyone else talk about it!
      Its a really great game and the amount of representation in it is phenomenal

    • @pranavkhanna8724
      @pranavkhanna8724 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hey! One thing you missed is the book a masterpiece for bess (correct me if I missed it tho) and it's one of my faves despite how plotless it kinda is, cause in it vidia has one of her only good moments where she encourages bess, and I kinda wish it had been covered for that small hint of movies vidia

    • @Penpal88900
      @Penpal88900 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ayy Athena with another banger 💪

  • @joelblake5310
    @joelblake5310 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9240

    I honestly couldn't care less how confusing the lore is. The Tinker Bell movies are so underrated, and I enjoy each and every one of them.

    • @Lilgarci22
      @Lilgarci22 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

      Exactly!!❤

    • @yokaibuster6754
      @yokaibuster6754 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +310

      I wish that they could have made more. I would kill for a Silvermost movie. I am happy that Fawn got her own movie since she’s my favorite but I would love to see her friends get a spotlight

    • @SilvanaPuris2310
      @SilvanaPuris2310 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +95

      Yeah, I too, I didn't realize if was confusing the story. I won't deny the movies of Tinkerbell were my chilhood and with something magical inside: the characters, stories and songs,

    • @Ponderpine
      @Ponderpine 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

      Like Barbie movies, but self-contained.

    • @babyperi6821
      @babyperi6821 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Same

  • @everwildart3563
    @everwildart3563 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4654

    Ending the Tinker Bell franchise with the Neverbeast movie where the ending is about saying goodbye to a friend is honestly so poetic and heartbroken at the same time...

    • @MunchSis
      @MunchSis 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +194

      Idk how true it is but I heard that more movies were planned, which would lead to her meeting Peter Pan before the animation studio unfortunately closed ://

    • @RosyLanderos
      @RosyLanderos 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      @@MunchSisand a other movie called “Tinker Academy”

    • @frustraceann
      @frustraceann 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      that movie never fails to make me cry and send me into emotional turmoil.

    • @astrowolvez
      @astrowolvez 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      The way there was supposed to be more and thee next had steampunk fairies

    • @gaygrim
      @gaygrim 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@astrowolvez NOOOOO WE WERE ROBBED

  • @kiwilemontea4622
    @kiwilemontea4622 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1540

    The Neverbeast absolutely got me crying every time my kids watched it. It's like... Yeah, of course Gruff is literally just going to sleep, he's fine and he just needs a nap, but the scene where they put Gruff to bed? That was 100% a funeral.

    • @perlaramirez5644
      @perlaramirez5644 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      But does he not wake up at the end of the movie ? Isn’t it just hybernation ? 😢

    • @kiwilemontea4622
      @kiwilemontea4622 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +221

      @@perlaramirez5644 It's hibernation, but for almost a thousand years. He doesn't wake up at the end of the movie. He goes to sleep for so long that all the other characters will be long dead by the next time he awakes.

    • @nanaduhh
      @nanaduhh 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

      stop im sobbing like he's gonna wake up and Fawn will be bones under soil im tearing my skin off it's like a funeral but for the fairies he knew

    • @kazuu_44
      @kazuu_44 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

      in a way, it IS a funeral. sure, he’s going to wake up.. in a thousand years. the fairies will never see him again. to them, he may as well be dead. they’re saying their last goodbye, as if he’s dying, because he essentially is to them.. he’s gone forever, for their forever.
      and it’s also sad for him, because the land will be different when he’s back. the fairies will be gone, and who knows if the truth of tale will be kept alive until the next time he wakes, or if it will be twisted again

    • @Joannefibracs9994
      @Joannefibracs9994 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      And the KT Tunstall song Strange Sight, oh god this movie makes me sob. I started sobbing even as she reminded me of the gifts they gave him. So now I have a cry-headache and am holding my very confused dogs tight while covering them in tears.

  • @sgtuwu1285
    @sgtuwu1285 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +932

    “Your childhood crush, Vidia. The Jade West of Pixie Hollows”
    I’ve never felt so attacked in my LIFE

    • @KelpieRider
      @KelpieRider 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      It was too accurate. Jade was when I knew my taste was atleast partially goth mean girl, it's terminal 😔

    • @boyinblue.
      @boyinblue. หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yes, she is one of the many reasons I should've known i was a lesbian.

  • @taylormoon3014
    @taylormoon3014 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +697

    the "let me quote shakespeare" into "if you stand for nothing, burr, what will you fall for" sLAYED ME LDKFHJGDJKAHGS

  • @havenm6181
    @havenm6181 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1752

    What I love about the fairies is that all of tinkerbells friends have superpowers and she just has a mcguyver brain, on top of the fact that when the fairies switched each others' powers, Vidia just got a different type of brain and has to temporarily deal with the implications of that

    • @miniminininja538
      @miniminininja538 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +310

      She just turned into a Lego builder and it was so funny

    • @celestial_fox_2217
      @celestial_fox_2217 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      MacGyver reference 😂

    • @shadowclaw7210
      @shadowclaw7210 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      All Tinker fairies are Batmans of fairy world.

    • @rileym7337
      @rileym7337 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +108

      They really said autism is your superpower 😭

    • @havenm6181
      @havenm6181 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@rileym7337 NOOOOOO 😭

  • @kskitten8047
    @kskitten8047 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1959

    Fun fact! From what I've heard, the Legend of the Neverbeast was supposed to be the first movie in a set that follows something relating to the talents of each of the main friends, but the rest were cancelled because that movie wasn't immediately popular, which is a shame.

    • @AthenaPOfficial
      @AthenaPOfficial  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +418

      That is a shame I would’ve loved more of those

    • @Mariasouza-um8cx
      @Mariasouza-um8cx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +362

      We could've had a Vidia movie...
      WE COULD'VE HAD A *SILVERMIST* MOVIE!!! WE WERE SOOOO ROBBED!!!

    • @Nazza_Bazza
      @Nazza_Bazza 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

      Are you kidding? I loved that movie 😭 also the one where she found Periwinkle

    • @rileym7337
      @rileym7337 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      Never beast made me ugly cry

    • @WinxAliNelCielo
      @WinxAliNelCielo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I wish they still tried ergh

  • @inkdoesathing
    @inkdoesathing 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4217

    I audibly whisper-screamed "FUCK YEAH" when I saw this thumbnail

    • @Rat-tat-two-eee3614
      @Rat-tat-two-eee3614 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      The excitement took over

    • @michellebaker8921
      @michellebaker8921 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Same but it was more a inside of head "FUCK YEAH" lol

    • @Zephyriar
      @Zephyriar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Dude!! Same 😂

    • @PiVeloso
      @PiVeloso 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I was legit giggling and kicking my feet

    • @friendlyneighbourhoodash
      @friendlyneighbourhoodash 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      so did i

  • @carolkoski4875
    @carolkoski4875 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +436

    10:00 calling being a tinker fairy being "a woman in stem" got a guttural laugh out of me (also i find the 'egg is actually a seed' theory totally believable tbh), it's the exact kind of whimsical shit you see in these types of fairytales

  • @wadeyhyena1657
    @wadeyhyena1657 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +243

    I think it's a shame that we never got to see Iridessa, Rosetta or Silvermist get their own movies after Fawn. Tink's movies are Tinker Bell, The Lost Treasure, and the Secret of the Wings alongside Periwinkle. Vidia's is The Great Fairy Rescue, since it acts as her redemption arc, and Fawn's is Legend of the Neverbeast. The Pirate Fairy's about Zarina and the origins of Captain Hook.

  • @Halloweenish
    @Halloweenish 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2654

    “So you all just force fairies to chose what they’re gonna do for the rest of their immortal lives only seconds after they’re born?”
    “Ironic, isn’t it?”

    • @sarahthomas8670
      @sarahthomas8670 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      PLSS😭😭😭

    • @mslackadaisical7989
      @mslackadaisical7989 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      I read that in rosettas voice

    • @WinxAliNelCielo
      @WinxAliNelCielo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@mslackadaisical7989that’s the point

    • @IntergalacticDustBunny
      @IntergalacticDustBunny 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The fairies aren't immortal.

    • @helfire14
      @helfire14 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's like rain on your wedding day

  • @N0b0dy1.0
    @N0b0dy1.0 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +722

    You'd think that water fairies could fly with wet wings, since their whole identity is water. Kinda like how winter fairies are the only fairies that can fly in the cold of winter ( or a blizzard ).

  • @owenbaker2.084
    @owenbaker2.084 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1811

    The funniest fact of the Tinker Bell films is that they were basically responsible for killing off Disneytoon Studios, the one being responsible for all the Disney Direct to DVD sequels in the 2000s.

    • @phlpcockrell
      @phlpcockrell 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +156

      They were also responsible for a goofy movie 😢

    • @patax144
      @patax144 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

      Wait they killed DisneyToon? I thought it was just a side effect of John Lasseter leaving and the launch of Disney+

    • @NightRainPanda
      @NightRainPanda 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +198

      @@patax144 I believe that (from what I remember) Bob Iger HATED Disneytoon. And when he became CEO, guess what movie was being worked on? Tinkerbell and the Ring of Belief. Which he hated so much they had to redo the entire movie. The only reason they were allowed to go on was because the company was in a recession. As soon as they were out of it, they got canned.

    • @danielgudinojuarez6729
      @danielgudinojuarez6729 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Just like how Ice Age killed blue sky studios

    • @princembat
      @princembat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

      @@NightRainPanda makes it sound like the tinker bell movies didnt kill the studio, bob iger did

  • @heehoopeanut420
    @heehoopeanut420 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +236

    Im so glad our generation is old enough to spread the word of how GOOD the disney fairy movies are. They still hold up to this day.

    • @kevinr.9733
      @kevinr.9733 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      As a 20-something guy who just watched all six over the past few days (most of them for the first time), I was thoroughly impressed at how charming and enjoyable they are. Not peak cinema, by any means, but still very worth a watch. They also look way prettier than they have any right to.

  • @birdieleo7244
    @birdieleo7244 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    17:27 Actually there is a way to make all the canons fit together!
    The movies are a prequel series, showing the early days of Tink’s life (as we can see with her birth) and her general upbringing. Later, would be her time with Peter. It’s understood that by this time something major had changed in Neverland, and the Pixie Dust tree no longer existed (theorised to be taken out by Hook). It’s also thought that one of the reasons Peter’s Tink is so possessive and jaded is because she had already seen some of her earlier friends (those that are exclusive to the movies such as Clink and Bobble, as well as her sister) pass due to children stopping their belief. After her time with Peter, we get the book series!
    Obviously it’s not complete or full proof, but it helps connect everything in a bit of a neater bow :) Plus we all love the movies and Tink enough to ignore the issues lol

  • @WaitWhat-zw2in
    @WaitWhat-zw2in 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +737

    Tinkerbell is a great example of what I like to call the Garfield Effect where the character might not look like they have much at first but once you start getting into it you realize that they are everywhere

    • @gemstone108
      @gemstone108 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      Glad I’m not the only one who made the SuperEyePatchWolf connection!

    • @emofurryboyfriendasmr
      @emofurryboyfriendasmr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      no because you're so right

  • @katshuskyalt
    @katshuskyalt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +929

    "Do not let her cook she'll burn the entire house down" 💀
    I will probably be using this

    • @MossyFrog69
      @MossyFrog69 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I read this as I heard it on the video lol

    • @RayDoughBoy
      @RayDoughBoy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where was it?

  • @Firegem029
    @Firegem029 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +661

    As I understood, individual fairy death can happen when one person, usually the child who gave life to the fairy, stops believing then that fairy dies, but, the Queen and other important figures are kept alive by the universal belief in faires. When they said they would never see the NeverBeast again, they meant that their humans would stop believing or just die, so they would be dead as well. My personal headcanon is that Tinkerbell only started following around Peter and the lost boys after her friends started dying from people believing in fairies less and less. She also started recruiting lost boys and taking (kidnapping) little girls to Neverland to keep her female friends alive. She was pissed at Wendy, not out of jealousy, but rather she was mad that Wendy was tempting Peter to leave Neverland and grow up, thus killing his fairy.

    • @JoeytheWitchyUnicorn-fq8if
      @JoeytheWitchyUnicorn-fq8if 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

      Yeah - I’ve heard about this theory too. But I don’t know if it’s confirmed anywhere in the franchise or if it’s from Lydia the Bard’s Tink villain song.

    • @someguyontheinternet604
      @someguyontheinternet604 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      Well that's...depressing.

    • @Firegem029
      @Firegem029 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      @@JoeytheWitchyUnicorn-fq8if It's just a head cannon, I doubt Disney would do something that dark even back then let alone now.

    • @stuffie5175
      @stuffie5175 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Tbh. If they got rid of that “no aging bit”, they could probably farm humans into a kinda village that they have a symbiotic relationship with

    • @benipasterus3572
      @benipasterus3572 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      That would be solvable especially if Queen and important fairies don't die. They would've long ago choose a specific distant village or made certain amount of humans live there and do not hide from them, therefore humans there would certainly believe in fairies and they won't die. Unless some other rule pop out that fairies are forbidden by world laws to show themselves in front of too many humans or smth.

  • @nicestpancake
    @nicestpancake 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

    I'm not finished yet, but "Let me quote Shakespeare; 'If you stand for nothing, Burr. What'll you fall for?'"
    Underrated.

  • @TobiasFangorIsntCis
    @TobiasFangorIsntCis 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +199

    When Peter calls Tink a “common fairy” I think he’s referring to her vulgar language, not her rarity

    • @Jellybeansatdusk
      @Jellybeansatdusk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      I would believe this if the second half of that sentence was not “she just mended the pots and kettles”

  • @kawaii.universe2003
    @kawaii.universe2003 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +761

    I’ve been mad about the inconsistency with the winter fairy lore for 12 years.
    Thank you, Athena. 9 year old me is pleased.

    • @sarahthomas8670
      @sarahthomas8670 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Same

    • @pinkred22
      @pinkred22 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      OH MY GOSH YES THAT'S ANNOYED ME FOR SO LONG

    • @animatortear6199
      @animatortear6199 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yesss i noticed it and no one talked about it when i went searching for it previously

    • @MyFireElf
      @MyFireElf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      All we needed was a line like "You were only in for a few seconds that first time" or something! Arg.

    • @nadaasaragih6661
      @nadaasaragih6661 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      FRRRRR when I saw the film for the first time I was like wait isn't they already have a winter queen?

  • @silverriku12
    @silverriku12 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +943

    I was obsessed with the original book. Everything to do with Rani has been burned into my memory forever. Forced to love something that kills her? Destroy an intrinsic part of yourself to be able to embrace your love? I'm dead. Deceased. Never at rest.

    • @madokami03
      @madokami03 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      I only had trouble with tink and I believe a compilation stories book with one about Rani after she cut off her wings. But everything from that story and her backstory is also just burned into my memory so vividly

    • @moonlighthowling666
      @moonlighthowling666 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      Her thing about crying easily because she's "full of water" is so relatable I say it to this day. I had to start carrying tissues in my purse because my nose started running a lot after i got it pierced and that reminded me of how Rani's outfit came with handkerchiefs on it too

    • @delaneyhopkins4521
      @delaneyhopkins4521 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I wanted to be her so badly as a kid I was fully obsessed with her and I now realize it was my first little baby gay crush and growing up I relate to her so much more

  • @nixgalexa7244
    @nixgalexa7244 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +721

    One of the reasons that the fairies are chaotic, mean, and only sometimes nice in the books is because fae are that way in folklore. Very fickle creatures, and you never know what you're going to get when you interact with them. They're often selfish, spiteful, care only about their own amusement, childish, petty, and prone to jealousy. Sometimes they take pity on people, but the outcome may be worse than if they didn't, because faeries don't know humans very well. The Pixie Dust Trilogy is probably based more on faerie characterization in folklore, hence the discrepancy.

    • @empressawesome1655
      @empressawesome1655 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

      I haven’t read the books but based on Athena’s description, they’re also more in line with JM Barrie’s depiction of them which is why their personalities seem so different than the Disney movies.

    • @beedoesthings8037
      @beedoesthings8037 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean faeries aren’t all bad, they just don’t subscribe to human ideals of morality. They care less about being good or bad, and more about honor, self-satisfaction and entertainment.

  • @shelby_lane_
    @shelby_lane_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    The watercolor illustration is the superior look for Disney fairies! I’m so glad you did this series! I was OBSESSED with the books and computer game for years!

  • @zaK98322
    @zaK98322 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +140

    LORE IDEAS: (IF YOU HADN'T) you should try the tangle/ Rapunzel lore. There is an entire series where it talks about more for Rapunzel and her magical hair. They even show another thing which you should check out.

    • @g00dbunny
      @g00dbunny 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Guess what bestie

    • @zaK98322
      @zaK98322 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@g00dbunny what 🫣🤔

    • @Jogryph
      @Jogryph 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@zaK98322she did it i think

    • @rosemary3029
      @rosemary3029 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@zaK98322she made it

  • @PickledRamona
    @PickledRamona 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +549

    Friends to lovers is such a cute trope and Tink and Terence genuinely would’ve been so cute together- like the short tempered one with the calm one is also such a cute pairing- but they ruin it with them looking so similar and with so many of their interactions being toxic or unkind. (Tink being mean to him or Terence being a bit of a creep in the books)

    • @rileym7337
      @rileym7337 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Movie Tink is a lesbian and I will die on that hill

    • @wuttatota148
      @wuttatota148 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      No fr i loved Tink and Terrence in the movies, then i heard about his lines in the books and i was like 😟

    • @testerwulf3357
      @testerwulf3357 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The only really similar looks is the same hair and eye color 😅everything else is the standard fairy design stuff..Having similar color schemes doesn't ruin anything. I don't get what's with the internets obsession with "similar color scheme=MUST be rekated aka CANNOT ship"..irl a lot of people date or marry someone with the same hair color, eye color, and even skin color..but it's only weird when animated characters do it??
      Tink also generally only goes to him when she has an issue, which automatically means ofc she's going to get mad at him..she has anger issues and isn't exactly in a good mood. Having little spatts is normal! people never fighting is what's odd..they always make up after the fight and agree it was a dumb thing to fight over. In the movies at least they don't have a toxic dynamic..Tink is just newer to the world and learning to handle her temper, he likewise is still learning how to help her and what NOT to say or else she'll explode.

  • @Necrovia
    @Necrovia 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +894

    The only major reason why I know about tinkerbell lore is because my mom's dog, Lucian, LOVES anything tinkerbell. The movies are the only few movies he will actively watch and not have a fit over when he's left alone. Least favorite is Great Fairy Rescue cause of the cat, but he ADORES Legend of The Neverbeast.
    We have to put on Neverbeast anytime we leave the house so he doesn't whine, and he has a tattered up tinkerbell doll as his favorite plush to sleep with. He's 10 years old, and started to get his sugar dusted face now.

    • @cyanthrope
      @cyanthrope 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +137

      I think what you have is a changeling, but in dog form

    • @WinxAliNelCielo
      @WinxAliNelCielo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      This is so cuteeee

    • @Theatricsanddramatics
      @Theatricsanddramatics 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      AWWWW

    • @Victoria-_
      @Victoria-_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Aww!

    • @tornadodee148
      @tornadodee148 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      tell him Lucian is goodest boi :3 lots pets🐾

  • @cloudyycolfer
    @cloudyycolfer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +432

    it's so funny to me how beloved tink is but no creator who has ever created or written her can decide what her lore, origin or backstory is

    • @trika91
      @trika91 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

      I love the movies too much, so I just stick with the movie lore as my cannon.
      Was kinda disappointed that we never got that 'Tink meets Peter Pan' movie; would've definitely built up the movie lore more and tied it in with the 1950s film.

    • @springdemon.w.
      @springdemon.w. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@trika91and the books! The book "Trouble with Tink" is where Tink goes back to Pan's hideout to retrieve her spare hammer, and they explain to Terrance how Tink and Peter met! Peter was on a raft, trying to get a shark and the shark took a huge bite out of the raft. With no way of escape, Tink saw him and said, "Fly, silly boy!" And covered him in pixie dust and taught him how to fly. Peter managed to get away with a tooth from the shark. They became best friends and went on many adventures from then on, ofc until they seperated and the fairies books occur in the future

  • @maxstone3779
    @maxstone3779 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Hoping you do Dora the Explorer lore.
    In reality she is a super villian with missiles, a robot factory in a volcano, stays out past midnight without calling parents, shoots first then asks people to surrender, and puts people who can't see/hear in charge of sailing a ship.
    Friends names are cleary mobster names: Boots and Benny the Bull..plus adults are always hiding in buildings.

  • @oranplan1630
    @oranplan1630 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Here's MY theory: since the books describe the universe of the movie as being their past, this obviously means that Neverland is stuck in a time loop where the same characters are born time and time again, and similar events will always play out. Reincarnation also a possibility.

  • @PalisadePeryton
    @PalisadePeryton 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +772

    I used to be obsessed with these movies. Back in the day, I didn't really know how to have actual opinions, so I'd always just say that my favorite character was whichever one had the most purple in their outfit. I got so mad when I realized the purple fairy was the mean one, because obviously my favorite fairy couldn't be mean. So I made up a whole story where Vivian and Faun swapped powers, that way the nice animal fairy could wear purple and she could be my favorite. I was a strange child.

    • @Punk-possum
      @Punk-possum 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

      That's kinda real ngl

    • @worknotinprogress7172
      @worknotinprogress7172 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +127

      I think that's just how children work lmao. When I was younger, I didn't like/pay attention to Iridessa because I was mad that she wore yellow. Now that I'm older and not holding her dress color against her, she's actually one of my favorite characters, with the other one being Silvermist.

    • @LadyLeomon
      @LadyLeomon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      (Unless there’s another purple fairy I forgot about her name is Vidia)

    • @jasminemohamed823
      @jasminemohamed823 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      This is so real, I actually did something similar, except it was with how pretty the character was.

    • @peacefulchaos333
      @peacefulchaos333 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@jasminemohamed823sameee lol

  • @truebornseeker9767
    @truebornseeker9767 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +351

    As sexist and bullshit as the original novel is, I do kinda love the idea of fairies being so tiny that they can only fit one emotion? Like obviously it’s by definition two dimensional to make a(n especially female) character who can only experience one emotion at a time, but it’s a fascinating to have a character’s emotions so limited and extreme
    The old live action movie is my favourite adaptation- Tink is so bitchy and cunty, the little acorn being a ‘kiss’, the thing about Wendy being shot is I’m pretty sure kept? Which is so dramatic and insane and I kinda love

    • @anit3976
      @anit3976 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Same it’s an interesting idea… and as long as you take out the problematic elements paying homage to the original is appreciated by me

    • @elenarodriguez602
      @elenarodriguez602 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      I think I read somewhere that apparently there were also boy fairies and fairies that didn't know what they were (NB FAIRIES). So still sexist, still sus, but half a hat better (if what I read was true).

    • @MugWitch
      @MugWitch 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I loved the concept too and apply it to OG Tink, but at the same time, it makes sense for someone who is a side character rather than the main character. It makes sense that they ditched that when starting the movies.

  • @theatre_kid8
    @theatre_kid8 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +307

    "She is in the condo I'm moving into"
    Why is it I immediately got this image of a middle aged Tinkerbell sitting on a balcony in one of those horrible white plastic lawn chairs holding a cigarette in one hand, and a coffee mug in the other wearing a green robe covered in stains?

    • @AthenaPOfficial
      @AthenaPOfficial  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      God I wish

    • @space-age-bachelorman
      @space-age-bachelorman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      someone draw this PLEASE

    • @theatre_kid8
      @theatre_kid8 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@space-age-bachelorman I really want someone to draw this, I need art of it 😂

    • @Vivicci.x
      @Vivicci.x 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@AthenaPOfficialI see that as being a sign you’re exactly where you’re supposed to be on your path in life . What is the odds of all the types of animated character it’s one you love in the place you move into. ✨✨

  • @thejoyintrying
    @thejoyintrying 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    As an undiagnosed ADHD child, I think the reason I loved these movies so much was how much I related to the characters. As an adult rewatching them, I relate to Tinkerbell's quick temper and her hyperfocus on making things, as well as Fauna's impulsivity and obsession with animals. Such a precious series ✨

  • @clearnotefrostflower
    @clearnotefrostflower 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    i think there is a way to make the books connected to the movies!
    in the books, they mention later on that there was once a great tree but it was destroyed, and from that destruction, mother dove and her egg were formed.
    in the movies, we see tink being born, and they take place before meeting peter, and the tree is there.
    in the books, they take place after meeting peter, and the tree is gone, now mother dove is there.
    so i think they can be connected that way! they’re in the same timeline, just at different periods of time in fairy history :)

  • @H0rseg1rll
    @H0rseg1rll 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1867

    Vidia is worse than you think in the books btw. There’s one book that I actually still have where a new fast flying fairy is born which pisses her off because she is also faster than Vidia, all this fairy wants to do is be Vidia’s friend but she’s having none of that, she constantly bullies her and at the end lures her to a volcano, somehow gets her wings wet and flies away, this fairy is literally crying for help at the end of the book and is never seen again, Vidia doesn’t get punished btw

    • @LavroseRovender
      @LavroseRovender 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +104

      Oh my god I want to read this

    • @isabellefuoss9737
      @isabellefuoss9737 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +246

      Dear god when I read this I had to remind myself that THIS IS A CHILDREN’S BOOK

    • @jewelswithj
      @jewelswithj 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

      @@isabellefuoss9737 exactly! she was so mean in the books

    • @H0rseg1rll
      @H0rseg1rll 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +211

      There’s also one I forget what it’s called but Rani gets abused by the mermaids for the entire story and she is like severally depressed at the beginning and nearly jumps off brother dove’s back to try and drown herself

    • @izzy1356
      @izzy1356 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +178

      ​@FallenMothValentino "Rani and The Mermaid Lagoon" was so sad to read man...
      Context for anyone reading the comments, Rani is a wingless fairy. She sacrificed her wings in order to save Neverland, and gets around by riding a dove called Brother Dove.
      And the book is when her depression over that finally boils over, since she *wants* to help set up a party, but can't because BD's wings would knock everything over.
      She figures she'd live better with the Mermaids, since she's a water fairy and is the only fairy in Neverland who can swim.

  • @Starshineadmirer
    @Starshineadmirer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +706

    29:44 Quick note here, Gwendolyn isn’t actually Wendy’s daughter, but she is descended from her.
    In the book it’s said that Gwendolyn’s mother and grandmother had both been to Neverland before, and it started with Wendy.
    Wendy’s daughter also had the acorn kiss cast in silver, which is nice.

    • @tinnasell4161
      @tinnasell4161 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      For a sec I thought you were talking about Gwendolyn the Dark Sun 😅

    • @RosyLanderos
      @RosyLanderos 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      So Gwendolyn would be Wendy’s granddaughter or great-granddaughter and Jane’s daughter or granddaughter in this version or I don’t know (although in the original novel the real name from the Wendy’s granddaughter is Margaret).

    • @Starshineadmirer
      @Starshineadmirer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@RosyLanderos Probably a few more generations

    • @Starshineadmirer
      @Starshineadmirer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@RosyLanderos I just picked up the book and in the first page it the grandmother wanted Gwendolyn to fetch a scrapbook. Said scrapbook had begun a century before.
      What are the chances of Gwendolyn being the granddaughter/great-granddaughter of Margaret?

  • @froggyfriend2744
    @froggyfriend2744 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +307

    Fun fact: in Peterpan in Kensington Gardens we get more backstory into the birth of Peter Pan and it’s revealed that all human babies are born as little birds that fly to their mothers cribs and lay down to transform in their cots.. but Peter’s window was closed. So Peter Pan was left to fly to this island in Kensington gardens to be raised by this wise old crow and he’s stuck between being human and something else. He’s a “betwixed and in between”. So he’s essentially a changeling child that’s not fully human. (There’s more lore with the Queen of the fairies and these goblin dudes and a little girl who gets lost in the gardens and spends the night there but that’s a whole thing.) Very worth the read tbh.

    • @sahana757
      @sahana757 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      That’s so messed up I need to read this

    • @RosyLanderos
      @RosyLanderos 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      That girl’s name is Maimie

    • @Ekami-chan
      @Ekami-chan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Oh I knew about the window thing, but not a bird/in-between one, so Eldrich horror Peter Pan from Wendy, darling and Hooked by A.C.Wise had basis on original :D (I need to specify the author because there's horrible romance novel with the same name as hooked)

    • @elecrom_9757
      @elecrom_9757 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He is also basically a naked baby that can fly

    • @Graycata
      @Graycata 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I remember it a bit different.
      I thought children were born in the traditional way, but remember their previous lives as birds. Peter remembering being a bird, flew from his crib to Kensington gardens. After a while he realized that the strange feeling he had was him wanting his mother. So he flew back saw that his mother had a new child and that there were bars on the windows.

  • @ItsMe-pv2dm
    @ItsMe-pv2dm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    26:10 THE WAY YOUR WINGS CLOSED AS YOU BACKED IN HORROR WAS SUCH AMAZING TIMING LMAOOO FOR A SECOND I WAS LIKE OH SHIT ARE THOSE REAL

  • @Ashton_Star
    @Ashton_Star 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Theres also the book 'In the Realm of the Never Fairies - The secret world of pixie hollow', It has a lot about specifically how each type of fairy works and also mentions mother dove. I remembered it from when I was a kid, and went digging and found it :) (also has some explanations on fashion, their bedrooms, and the living spaces of the pixie tree. Theres also a few recipes in the book.)

  • @SugarSpice07
    @SugarSpice07 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1186

    So, I have no place to say this since the gracious Queen Athena has granted my last request for Octonauts lore, but anyone else here think that Little Einsteins would be EXACTLY the type of thing she'd enjoy doing a lore video for? That would be so much fun!

    • @kctoygacha5069
      @kctoygacha5069 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      All I remember about that show is that I watched one episode of Little Einsteins one (1) time and got one of their songs stuck in my head for a whole month. It was great.

    • @Isabelle-qq2yu
      @Isabelle-qq2yu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

      Little Einsteins and Backyardigans are the types that I feel like Athena would be hooked on (yes, I know she reacted to Backyardigans drunk)

    • @TheAlmightyRiley19
      @TheAlmightyRiley19 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      SERIOUSLY MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY! I would be so down with a lore video on it!! Because it's actually very interesting when you watch the whole show..

    • @melonnoodlsoup3387
      @melonnoodlsoup3387 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I was scared of the spider from it

    • @TheAlmightyRiley19
      @TheAlmightyRiley19 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@melonnoodlsoup3387 for some reason I was kinda obsessed with that scene because of the visual background behind them...but yes I remember being frightened of it too 🤣 it was the only show I watched in my childhood my mother was actually able to sit through 💀

  • @serpenking
    @serpenking 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +380

    ill never forgive disney for killing this franchise it ruled

    • @AthenaPOfficial
      @AthenaPOfficial  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

      I want MOOOOORE

    • @serpenking
      @serpenking 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      @@AthenaPOfficial we all talk about how much we miss club penguin but real talk? i miss pixie hollow more

    • @taylorg2320
      @taylorg2320 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@serpenkingclub penguing is still around, just search "club penguin rewritten." Everyone gets an automatic membership and the programmers put on new events and updated fashion all the time, plus you can swear in the chat

    • @MugWitch
      @MugWitch 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AthenaPOfficialI hope they revisit one day. Pixie Hollow area still exists at Disneyland and Tokyo Disney Springs just opened a new ride based on the Disney Fairies and has Cheese in it. There might be some hope to it!

    • @testerwulf3357
      @testerwulf3357 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@serpenking Hot take, same honestly..

  • @Starlightclod
    @Starlightclod 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +370

    I’ll always be upset that we never got that steampunk themed movie where Tink attends an entire academy for tinker fairies. The concept art for it was so cool and we would’ve gotten the coolest fairy designs in the series imo. I NEED Disney to give us steampunk Tinker Bell someday!!

    • @liz_violet
      @liz_violet 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      its being turned into a book!

  • @CandaceDreamer
    @CandaceDreamer 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I hadn’t seen the last tinkerbell movie until last summer and I cried so hard at that ending. I was starting to tear up when you were talking about it.
    Also I wish they kept going with this film series. It’s a nice comfort series of movies to watch.

  • @kardamonn1115
    @kardamonn1115 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Tinker fairies are literally the coolest fairies I will die on that hill. They’re essentially the backbone of pixie Hollow and the fact that they weren’t allowed to go to the mainland is some bs Spring literally would not be done on time if not for their inventions.

  • @venlafaxinequeen421
    @venlafaxinequeen421 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +243

    Fashion history lover here. A negligee in 1904 was actually very different to what we would now call lingerie. A negligee was a more casual garment, but would have still fully covered most of a woman’s skin. These were mostly worn by women who were staying at home and entertaining guests.

  • @cutiekanroji7969
    @cutiekanroji7969 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +235

    Raini as a bat be like: "I have no mouth and I must scream."

  • @TheAntiDisneyGod
    @TheAntiDisneyGod 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1725

    Who knew a TacoBell fairy would gain several films and spin-offs even though she was from a film that came out in THE 1950S?!?!?!!??

    • @Isabelle-qq2yu
      @Isabelle-qq2yu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +168

      Just like Schaffrillas said “She’s also a sociopath with a long history of violence”

    • @cofeespear4992
      @cofeespear4992 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      TacoBell?!!

    • @MidnightMuffin
      @MidnightMuffin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      @@Isabelle-qq2yu "I don't understand how you keep forgetting that."

    • @princembat
      @princembat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      tbf shes kinda one of disneys big mascots, at least she was for a while idk if she is anymore

    • @Victoria-_
      @Victoria-_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Tacobell?? 😭

  • @quonit37
    @quonit37 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I decided to rewatch The Great Fairy Rescue because of this video, and it really surprised me how much of that movie implanted itself in my psyche? I remember disliking it as a kid because I was very into knowledge and didn't like the movie was about how "science is Dumb look at this big Science Bully", but rewatching it now I can see the bigger picture of it being a very sweet story that cuts into the core of a lot of anxieties children have with their parents. I actually like this movie now!

  • @user-uc4vf1ym4z
    @user-uc4vf1ym4z 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I cant belive Athena didnt talk about Bobble and Clank. The fact that they live together and Bobble always calls Clank "Clanky"? Like?

  • @dlmkrmusic
    @dlmkrmusic 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +204

    full disclosure, i 100% cried when i first saw the neverbeast movie. i was a freshman in highschool, genuinely sobbing, hiccups, screaming, full blown waterworks at that last scene where they take him to bed. my dog at the time had just been diagnosed with cancer, and i was so scared that we'd have to say goodbye to him prematurely. happy to say he's still kickin to this day, but even as a full grown adult, rewatching that movie last year still brought a tear to my eye.
    also yeah the lore is fcked

    • @TawnyOwlWings
      @TawnyOwlWings 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Don't worry I am now a fully grown 27 year old adult and still cry at the Neverbeast film (having a pet makes it WORSE)

    • @Roxxie-The-Imp
      @Roxxie-The-Imp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I couldn’t finish it as a kid bc I was so sad that it was the last movie 😢

  • @Skylarcat4539
    @Skylarcat4539 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +284

    Is anyone else going to mention how she straight up forgot a special, show the Pixie Hollow games focuses on Rosetta and not Tinkerbell but it's still in the series

    • @AthenaPOfficial
      @AthenaPOfficial  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +123

      There was another special not included as well a part 2 may be in order

    • @intensestare5027
      @intensestare5027 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      ​@AthenaPOfficial If you do a part 2 you could include the Fairies graphic novels. Some of them focus on stories already told in the book with a couple changes like retconning vidia and the dragons love affair but theres a plot that includes a garden fairy named thistle getting jealous of tink and having a love triangle w her and terrance

    • @demiokulaja7787
      @demiokulaja7787 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@intensestare5027 yes!!! i adored the graphic novels! I remember they also edited the reason tinkerbell and peter pan fought to be the same as the manga which is interesting

    • @oculieswaslive8086
      @oculieswaslive8086 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Ooh, and maybe even the Never Girls? I recall loving that book series when I was in elementary school, so it'd be cool to see that broken down along with all of the previously mentioned media!

    • @midnighttcircus
      @midnighttcircus 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AthenaPOfficial that would be so amazing, i'd looove to hear what you think of the extra content!!!! i know there's no way to make the lore make sense bahahah but it's so fun to hear you talk about anyway!

  • @ethan9167
    @ethan9167 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +179

    That description of the wand ABSOLUTELY sounds sexual 😂

    • @morgancrabtree6248
      @morgancrabtree6248 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Agreed. Probably doesn't help that one of the content creators I watch makes innuendos out of everything.

  • @THEMIMIK
    @THEMIMIK 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    44:22 Athena’s completely justified reaction is just amazing 😂

  • @TheChaosCleric
    @TheChaosCleric 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The "I don't want my god to die, so clap if you believe" bit was absolute gold
    It caught me off guard, and then I laughed for a solid 5 minutes while replaying in (22:58 for a good time)

  • @v.v365
    @v.v365 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    I like to imagine if Periwinkle got out to the Mainland, she’d encounter Jack Frost as an equivalent to the dynamic between Tink and Peter Pan

    • @devonmmi
      @devonmmi หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      oh i love this

  • @joshstack34
    @joshstack34 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +217

    Fun fact: the Peter Pan franchise has been around for 120 years.

  • @myra7011
    @myra7011 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +187

    In Peter and the Starcatcher (the musical, at least) Tinker Bell is a bird that gets turned into a fairy by "star stuff" which is the magic dust that falls to earth from shooting stars and fits with absolutely no other Tinker Bell lore

    • @umbreonic766
      @umbreonic766 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      just had a record scratch moment irl. you’re telling me there’s a MUSICAL???? i love those books and there’s a MUSICAL brb time to deep dive
      and iirc that’s correct in the book as well. the mermaids were also fish fucked up by starstuff. i remember the lore saying that earth mythology of gods and monsters is all just records of people and creatures who got all jacked up on the stuff it was great

    • @Victoria-_
      @Victoria-_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      There’s a musical?? Since WHEN

    • @myra7011
      @myra7011 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@umbreonic766 Yeah! It’s actually more of a play with music than a true musical, but one of the songs is all about the mermaids

  • @daysbe4jack
    @daysbe4jack 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Hi Athena P..you gotta check out the lore of the PJ Masks..3 kids who seemingly gained animal powers and fight kid villains all night. Where are their parents? Do they not check on them at night? Are the PJ Masks more than regular kids? If so, did Romeo( one of their villains) invent them? There’s more of a connection that Romeo has with the three kids than just being an infamous villain..I can feel it..Why is there no other person seeing super-powered children causing fights all across the city?!!😭😭😭

  • @Blue-100
    @Blue-100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Bro my absolute favorite out of the whole movie series was the great fairy rescue. I mean I literally watched that movie so many times as a kid. I just like how they did everything in that movie from the interaction with Liz and how Tink temporarily fixed the water dripping in the house (that definitely needs a better fix though it was satisfying to watch). I also loved the little fairy trap house

  • @moonlighthowling666
    @moonlighthowling666 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +208

    Rani's name is pronounced RAH-nee. She's named after Gail Carson Levine (the author of the book)'s sister. I understand mispronouncing, I did until I heard the author say it.
    Rani was always my favorite character and I still use her metaphor of being "filled with water" as an excuse for why I'm such a chubby crybaby. Even her quirk of finishing people's sentences was something i related to because it was something i did

    • @smolexfundie6458
      @smolexfundie6458 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      right…I know finishing people’s sentences is SO annoying, but as an adhd fam, it was super relatable

    • @ElizabethHamilton-ty5li
      @ElizabethHamilton-ty5li 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I caught that too! It’s funny cause it was the same mispronunciation she used in her Lion guard lore video! That one actually annoyed me more because books lend themselves to different pronunciations but with the Lion guard they pronounce the name in the show!

    • @dust.runner
      @dust.runner 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I love her too. She was one of the first characters with a disability I ever encountered and I love her for that. I was so disappointed when she was replaced by just Silvermist in the movies...
      I love that she has an acquired disability which actually stays. She never gets her wings back. It's also really neat (imo) that she has a lot of other aspects and theming that can be applied to various other things, I absolutely can see the ADHD thing too as a neurodivergent who is also 'filled with water' haha

    • @moonlighthowling666
      @moonlighthowling666 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@dust.runneryes! the fact her lack of wings stays as an aspect of her character rather than giving her a factory reset at the end, felt ground breaking as a kid. I've heard people describing Brother Dove as a mobility aid, which is nice to see in children's media.

    • @devonmmi
      @devonmmi หลายเดือนก่อน

      OH SO I HAVE BEEN PRONOUNCING IT CORRECTLY THIS WHOLE TIME HOLY SHIT

  • @lucasmarble2572
    @lucasmarble2572 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1040

    Imagine my complete and utter shock when I saw the stupid grave that took me 10 minutes show up on my screen. Where the hell did that come from? Almost as shocking knowing the Second Star on the Right was Athena the whole time.
    Also, F for Barbara Muddyfoam.

  • @SugarSpice07
    @SugarSpice07 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +147

    Athena forgot the Pirate Fairy Leapfrog game. I just *sobs * I feel so invisible. *sobs * That game was my childhood, and *sobs * she didn't even mention it. *sobs *

    • @Cinnabun9
      @Cinnabun9 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I had the Lost Treasure one, you're not alone

  • @JosephineWarren-ky8du
    @JosephineWarren-ky8du 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think my favorite one of the books was probably “The Fairy Without Wings” that book really struck a chord with me about the “not needing to be fixed” message I got from it.

  • @HungryDuck3312
    @HungryDuck3312 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is a ridiculous admission but I’ve watched 3 separate creators 1+ hours tinkerbell related videos this morning. But this one’s my favorite

    • @AthenaPOfficial
      @AthenaPOfficial  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      WOAH! Thanks so much!!! That means a lot to me 🧚‍♀️

  • @freshcupofangst
    @freshcupofangst 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +238

    1:12 so...basically an old fashioned way of saying "thicc"?

  • @meiday154
    @meiday154 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

    My bias for Jesse McCartney made it so I can't hate Terrance no matter what. I just love his voice acting roles, and this is no exception

    • @JiannaSandoval
      @JiannaSandoval 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Nick Greyson is my personal favorite 😭💙🖤

  • @saraayala7283
    @saraayala7283 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    I absolutely love Tinker Bell in every iteration. I have a whole shelf dedicated to her. And the fact she can only feel one emotion at a time because she’s so tiny is just like me fr.

    • @literallywhy6162
      @literallywhy6162 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      *looks at my tinker bell shelf next to me right now* I have found my people

    • @neptea
      @neptea 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      so do i!!! it’s been my hyper fixation since i was 6 😭😭

    • @neptea
      @neptea 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      i’m always on the lookout for more stuff to add to my tinkerbell collection lol

  • @Thatgirlsalooneyone
    @Thatgirlsalooneyone 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Not me talking about this with my husband after I re watched all the tinkerbell movies!!! This video was MADE for me

  • @hydroarchonfaker
    @hydroarchonfaker 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

    Hi Athena, I read these books as a kid. I was so hyperfixated on them. Heres a few things to help you better understand. The movies are EARLY i mean super early in the timeline. Before Tink meets Peter, before everything. Before destruction came to the pixie dust tree. a battle destroyed the Pixie Dust Tree with a terrible fire that swept Never Land burning everything in its path. That's why in the books theres no longer a Tree. And time moves differently in Neverland. It's faster, like while a year would pass on the homeland, typically a full five years could have passed in Neverland. The Books also indicate that while the original faerie girlies are still alive for the most part something tears them from Tink probably her living with Peter for so many years. The movies were suppose to end with one showing Tink meeting Peter Pan and leaving Pixie Hollow but that never ended up happening since the studio was closed before they could. Also Rani is pronounced like Ronny, she was always my favorite as a kid. It's also kind of implied that Prilla is autistic which is fun. As an audhd girlie I love seeing the REP. But Vidia also become more cold hearted in the books because of how much time had passed. I think she was really hurt with Tink left Pixie Hollow and while we don't know how she left it's implied she didn't tell anyone which is why in the books her original group of friends had drifted away except for Terence. I loved these books so much as a kid.

  • @celestegrey
    @celestegrey 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    Apparently the movies take place before the first 3 books, and mother dove was born out of a fire from the home tree after a war so we can assume that the movies are pre fairy war and the books are after, which makes sense with how much darker they are.

    • @fightingfaerie
      @fightingfaerie 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      That’s what I want to see now. Tinkerbell and the Fairy War. Lol. Fairies in acorn shell armor, massive battles mid air. Tinkerbell developing and building artillery to shoot enemy fairies out of the sky.

    • @WinxAliNelCielo
      @WinxAliNelCielo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Well even though the setting of the film series (ie the Pixie Dust Tree) existed in the past within the books it’s unclear whether they’re the same canon cuz several characters’ personalities (for instance Vidia, whose redemption from Great Fairy Rescue never happens in the books, with her remaining a cruel fairy who betrays others, as well as the fairies being much more mean-spirited in general in the books) and appearances differ and then there’s the Tink north of neverland/lost treasure story repeating

  • @sharpeningtheaxe
    @sharpeningtheaxe 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

    I played the Pixie Hollow game in my early twenties while recovering from getting my wisdom teeth out and it’s genuinely one of the fondest memories I have. In the handful of hours every day that I was conscious, I was having the time of my life being a cute little fairy and flying around collecting snowflakes with that magical background music playing. 10/10 perfect game

    • @UwU_69420
      @UwU_69420 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Where can you find it though?

    • @VioletDraconia
      @VioletDraconia 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@UwU_69420 it was, sadly, shut down in 2013, but i've just discovered "We the Pixies" which is a rebuild project! (They're basically remaking the whole thing)

    • @hgdellinger
      @hgdellinger 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@UwU_69420 It's very dead, but maybe in the same places that you can find Club Penguin or Webkinz replicas?

  • @cthoniccassandra7526
    @cthoniccassandra7526 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That opening line of how Tinkerbell is older than every person on earth alive right now smacked me right in the face. While I know her, like most folks, from the mouse corporation that was a good way to emphasize how she is beyond that property honestly! She was always a problematic fave. Really great video!

  • @AgentGoob
    @AgentGoob 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm 23 years old and still in love with Vidia. Also, the end of Never Beast always makes me cry
    I started reading the books when I was really young and it really altered my brain chemistry for the rest of my life. I love the books and the movies equally and to me it's all canon

  • @deef1358
    @deef1358 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +185

    I’m so obsessed with the wings

    • @TheAntiDisneyGod
      @TheAntiDisneyGod 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Weirdo 😐

    • @SutaFokusu
      @SutaFokusu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@TheAntiDisneyGodhow?

    • @yokaibuster6754
      @yokaibuster6754 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I like how the left one is slightly ripped. I think it gives it like a little style

  • @v.v365
    @v.v365 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    They show young Captain Hook and Tick Tock Croc in the movies, and show a storyteller talking about the history with the Pixie Dust tree in the books, and I think that’s implying time worked normally before Neverland was awakened and Mother Dove got her magic egg, and only afterwards was aging frozen in place

  • @-arthur-
    @-arthur- 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

    If i had a nickel for every time Tom Hiddleston played a character that had their hand bitten off and eaten by a crocodile/alligator, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened twice.

    • @kevinr.9733
      @kevinr.9733 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And both times were for Disney-owned properties.

  • @maraneza-5370
    @maraneza-5370 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    i can't believe it took me this long to find your channel 😂 also love that "embonpoint" plays in the background whenever the books talks about the fairies physical appearance

  • @Corvustheguy
    @Corvustheguy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The books are genuinely so iconic they are SO GOOD I love the cooking one

  • @nobodyshekatonchires
    @nobodyshekatonchires 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    All i know is Tinkerbell has a polycule with the other fairies in the movies

  • @devil3678
    @devil3678 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    A funfact about the Tinkerbell Movies is that in the german dubbing, a few fairys had different names. Iridessa was Klara, Silvermist was Silberhauch (Literary: Silverbreath) and Fawn was Emily which makes the least sense to me. Like, at least the others got names that made sense with their abilities, why should Fawn be Emily? I get that they probably wanted to use names that a child audience would understand as belonging to the element, but In Secret of the Fairy Wings, they still call Periwinkle by her orginal name

  • @RHKang-hl3ps
    @RHKang-hl3ps 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +101

    So we all agree that the Legend of Neverbeast was more of an emotional gut-punch than expected? (Just hearing the summary makes me choked up still, ngl).

    • @tearoses9940
      @tearoses9940 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Literally, they basically treat the scene like having to put down a beloved pet. I didn’t even see the whole movie, I had walked in on the last 15 minutes of my roommates watching it, but after the end I had to just go cry in my room.

    • @jimthecactus7425
      @jimthecactus7425 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@tearoses9940 I get it, I started tearing up just from the clips in this video

  • @KingofFools5083
    @KingofFools5083 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm not sure if this is a well known fact in the Fairy Fandom, but the voice cast for the movies was absolutely star studded. They had Mae Whitman (Katara, Amity, Apirl O'Neil), America Farrera (Astrid in HTTYD), Ginnefer Goodwin (Judy Hopps), Lucy Liu (Viper in Kung Fu Panda), Raven-Symoné, Pamela Aldon (Spinelli in Recess and Bobby in KotH), and Kristin Chenoweth (Gilda in the Wicked Musical). And that was not only most of the MAIN CAST, but two of those actresses played the same character in different movies!

  • @ppals3345
    @ppals3345 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i remember really liking Disneys fairies when i was little. i had a neverland fairy book. With character info, as well as pictures and information of their rooms. It also had a few stories in it, including: "The great berry battle". It was quite big, and had wonderful illustrations. i still have it

  • @dinam3236
    @dinam3236 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    One thing....when Peter says Tink is a common fairy, he probably means it in the sense that she's a commoner, i.e. she's working class. After all, she is a tinkerer. Brits are very class-conscious, especially in that period of time.

  • @DieloTheDino
    @DieloTheDino 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    Great Fairy Rescue was always my favorite of the films, it was cute, emotional, sweet and simple. Neverbeast was a close second, only cause the existentialism in it broke my heart every time the film was put on.

  • @ph0en1x28
    @ph0en1x28 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    Imma list all the series I want you to do a lore dive on.
    1. The Magic Treehouse series. (Also had a cancelled TV show I think?)
    2. Ever After High books and TV show.
    3. A Wrinkle in time and its spinoff meet the Austins
    4. The Chrestomanci series by Diana Wynne Jones (It's literally amazing and bonkers)
    5. The crazy world of Phineas and Ferb and more importantly, MILO MURPHY'S LAW
    6. Mary Poppins. Just anything Mary Poppins.
    Admittedly, most of these don't have enough lore to value a full lore video, but all the same my childhood favourites would thank you if you did one.

    • @eeveestars3668
      @eeveestars3668 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Hamster and Grettle are also part of the Phineas and Ferb universe and since that show is actually rather good want to make sure she dosent forget it 😊😊😊

    • @mitchfletcher2386
      @mitchfletcher2386 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Magic Tree House had an anime movie.

    • @ClarissaMcLaughlin
      @ClarissaMcLaughlin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mitchfletcher2386and a stage Musical. They used to include some of the songs at the end of the audiobooks which were prizes in kids meals

    • @madisonwalter4233
      @madisonwalter4233 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Magic tree house and ever after high are some of my favoritez

    • @SsLoage
      @SsLoage 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      OH MY GOD YES

  • @btsrosaline3559
    @btsrosaline3559 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    As a kid me and my brother were obsessed with a Barbie movies and Tinker Bell movies so one day like when we had I think I had a head cold so she stayed home because my mom was working. We’ve binged watched a bunch of movies we all we both walked up to the gas station and got ourselves a drink and candy and some microwave popcorn as I heard that fresh air helps when you’re not feeling good I chose. Nerds. And a icee (sore throat could not eat much) but popcorn was a a rare treat for my family only on movie nights, so we thought this might be something nice we could have

  • @gilbert2472
    @gilbert2472 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Lost two icons who were both born this year, Gummigoo and Barbara Muddyfoam 😢 59:39
    Rest in peace 😔

  • @ca1yps0
    @ca1yps0 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    I love how there's still 21 other books from this series called the Never Girls that probably have even more lore, I remember something about them teleporting to neverland or something, simply put they were confusing to read as a kid

    • @WinxAliNelCielo
      @WinxAliNelCielo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She should do a vid on the specials and other books

  • @Pinkywinkykinky
    @Pinkywinkykinky 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +97

    Vidia in the third movie reminds me of Tigeress and her progression towards being nicer to Poe in the second Kung Fu Panda franchise like how Vidia was becoming friendlier with Tink

    • @cosmiclasagna
      @cosmiclasagna 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      oh i loved tigeress’s character development during those movies, it sucks that the 4th one turned out the way it did lol

    • @Pinkywinkykinky
      @Pinkywinkykinky 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@cosmiclasagna Haven't seen the 4th one but hear they were underused in the movie 😔

  • @baihaqisodikin1416
    @baihaqisodikin1416 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Love secret of the wings, definitely my favorite.
    You know Tinkerbell and the fairies of Neverland deserve their own series, like a soft reboot, spinoff shows, or honestly anything cartoon fairy related.

  • @neptea
    @neptea 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    thank you soooo much for making this video. tinkerbell is my special interest and it literally makes me SOOOO happy when people post videos about it still! i’m glad i found your channel!

  • @wriggleby
    @wriggleby 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The On Ice costumes are actually despicable omfg 😭😭

  • @draila7022
    @draila7022 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Shoutout to everyone who had a crush on Silvermist and/or Vidia when they were a kid

  • @TristonSherewood
    @TristonSherewood 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +147

    Tbh Athena should have a channel where it's just sander sides but Athena's alt egos💀

    • @cosmiclasagna
      @cosmiclasagna 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      lol i bet shed do a batter job than thomas at keeping her characters in character too lmao 💀 i feel like the quality of sanders sides has gone down sooooooooooo much since joan left the team

    • @abbycollins4820
      @abbycollins4820 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’d watch that

    • @iireesepuffii
      @iireesepuffii 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@cosmiclasagna wait joan left?

    • @cosmiclasagna
      @cosmiclasagna 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@iireesepuffii yeah they left awhile ago! i think it was before dwit?? anyways its a big part of the reason why the characters and interactions have felt a little out of character since about that time (although im sure thomas interacting with fan content as much as he does isnt helping his ability to keep them in character) so like hes trying to develop the characters and do these arcs or whatever but it seems a lotta the time like hes forgotten their original characterizations a little bit

  • @solofdragons6446
    @solofdragons6446 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    An hour long video at 11 pm? I really shouldn't but... Oh I can't resist your lore breakdowns. Especially since I looooved Tinkerbell as a kid
    Addition: The car indicates that Tinkerbell and the Great Fairy Rescue takes place in probably the 1910s-1920s, the 1800s for most of the century is still way too early for those sorts of cars. The first car was invented in 1886, but it looked very different to what was modelled in the movie. Cars also didn't pick up in popularity until the 1900s in the UK, with there being 700-800 on the road in 1900, but they were also very expensive that early on.

  • @jesterfairy3845
    @jesterfairy3845 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Omg I'm so glad more people are talking about Disney Fairies. Those movies were my whole world. (Also love the Silvermist appreciation. She's my Queen)

  • @CharaDreemurr-UT
    @CharaDreemurr-UT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I had SO much fun watching this video! The jokes were so on point and every detail was well-thought. I have no idea who were you before this, but if your videos are like that, ma'am, you're one of the funniest analysis creators I've seen in a while!