@@armchairgeneralissimo yessir! Got to do the oil change on my moms car, oil pan bolt was breaker bar tight, filter i used biggest channel locks i had and all i had barely got it off.
@@xXAkitokunXx This thing is going to get like nicknames like big shot beast buster like some cheesy one line I can tell you right now I don’t want to hold one with one hand
I think it would be really cool to see the “nut busting torque” tested as nut busting torque to aide in the testing. What I mean is actually torque a bolt down to the advertised number and see if it’s able to break it free.
Just a note: The output of an impact wrench....particularly one with large hammers will be much less when there is movement in the measuring device. If you have a load with zero movement like a frozen lug nut it will produce far more torque.
@@hazza2247 I agree, its kinda like when they say a top fuel dragster has 11000 hp. They did not dyno a fuel motor rather it is extrapolated mathematically from lots of data collected during the run. Just because its hard to measure mechanically does not mean that its an unimportant consideration when choosing a tool. To me the big issue with the large hammer lower speed of many electrics is not the power but rather the lack of control when trying to evenly tighten fasteners to say 100 lb ft.
I think that for the time being, until you guys design a new impact dyno, it's best to put an asterisk on its score since it did beat the living crap out of the dyno and it's bolts
Yes, spot on. With any new category of tools we like to be able to verify results, which is why you haven't seen 3/4" air yet. With this, we just havent run into anything else we can put it against for some useful data comparison. When/if we come up with something bigger for these types of tools and it has a friend to test next to, we'll be able to verify or update these numbers happily.
I work for Boeing, we received a few and I have to say most of my other coworkers returned to air impact. But I still use them on and off, like you said it’s great for certain things.
I just want to buy it for the cool factor. I’d use an adapter to an adapter to adapter to remove a 1/4” bolt. Impress the girls who come in the shop. “Yep, there’s more where that came from ladies”
I remember getting my first cordless impact many many years ago and impressing my brother by busting off a bunch of 10mm bolts on the side of a lawnmower engine. 😄 yeah, real strong!
@@volvo09 I did something similar with my new impact wrench that I got yesterday. I had this lawn mower deck laying around, and it has these 22mm bolts holding the belt pulleys that spin the blades. They are virtually impossible to get off without a impact wrench. I told my brother to watch me try and get these things off a here, and man it was so much fun. Impact wrenches are strangely fun to use!
I've been waiting for this, I can change most semi tires with a 2767 1/2 gun but it won't touch some of the more rusted rims. This with cut the time I spend on the side of the road in half and it only weighs half of my IR pneumatic gun. Thanks a lot for doing this so guys like me wouldn't waste money just to find out if it's worth spending money on these tools
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
BWAHAHAHAH This is the most genius YT tactic I've seen yet. 10/10 will steal. "Subscribe or we'll only feature truly terrible tool videos from now on."
Kinda interested to see what Milwaukee could do if they made an Mx fuel impact wrench considering that voltage wise it's about the same as 4 m18 batterys
That torque reading at 15 seconds was still climbing substantially. Do you know where it peaks and how long that takes if your hands can take the punishment????
I love that Milwaukee made this impact. And the pistol grip style. Just amazing how far battery powered tools have come. However I feel like Milwaukee needs to come out with a larger battery platform….24 or 36v
Milwaukee doesn't want to pull the bullshit that all these other companies do: which is keep spamming more battery standards to try to beat Milwaukee. Look at how much higher the voltage output is on all these other companies, yet they're only slightly better. Shops buy $10,000s of these tools because they know they can rely on the standards, which is why you usually don't see the other brands in bigger shops: they don't trust them to ruin a standard. What they need to do, like was said, was to have a dual battery setup.
Used to work at a diesel shop where they had some old chain gun style impacts that one of the 45 year diesel mechanics used to rebuild. He claimed back when these were made you couldn't even measure the torque they made accurately. I believe it. Would shatter 3 inch bolts off of giant komatsu cranes that were seized. Nothing could stop these machines.
Been using this for 2 months now love it. Was a lil disappointed with the 1" high torque as it seems my 3/4" was just as strong bit much cheaper. The D handle 1" is a beast though.
This gun(and it’s extended anvil brother) is the answer us field service guy were looking got. Track pad bolts, idlers, sprockets, semi lugs, the list goes on and on. This damn near will keep you from firing up the compressor.
Got a 1" pneumatic gun at the shop. Would take off stuck truck lugs off. Milwaukee 3/4" HD pistol grip impact spun them off without any trouble at all.
@@cchavezjr7 thats a good point. Although being able to do the same work without the restraints of cords and air lines is sure starting to become convenient
I saw in your video you mentioned the new Ingersoll Rand cordless 1 inch impact tool. It’s a beast of a tool. Back when I had a job before the virus I had the opportunity to run one of them. And I can say it really puts the down the torque
Agreed, I’m very impressed! It’ll be interesting to see what Milwaukee answers with when they update their line-up soon. When it comes to impact tools these two companies have been doing the most to innovate lately.
Stopped it around 90 seconds, got a beer, rolled a joint.... this is gonna be a good one! Although the editing at the start of the video made me think I already had the joint
It's amazing that this tool exceed the limits the dyno. Do you calculate torque from hydraulic pressure only? You exceeded the combined system of faceplate yielding, bolt stretch, and hydraulic support. And hydraulic support, at some point, is probably more related to radial hose stretching / ballooning. I love this channel. Your measurement system is great. I think somehow this tool is abusing the limits of the Dyno setup in nonlinear / multiple ways, which is pretty wild. I told my wife this is what I'm saving up for.
Have you guys ever thought of testing bathroom fans. I just bought a Panasonic bathroom fan that says it’s 390 CMF. It dose suck plenty of air. It would be cool to see you rate other bathroom fans. Anyway great video, I always enjoy the hard work you guys put into your video’s. 👍
Idea for quantifying performance--calculate the "area under the curve". It's a math/ calculus thing....it would quantify the amount of "work" (i.e. physics terminology for Watts/ amount of energy exerted by the tool). It might help represent the subjective experience of using a tool when peak torque doesn't tell the whole story?
When you look at tools, you have to remember that it's wattage for power output, and watts are just volts(amps). If you double the volts, you need half the amps to reach the same wattage. This is why you can have 18/20 volt tools that perform identically to 36, 48, or 60 volt tools. As long as the battery cells can provide the amps, and the contacts/wire gauge is beefy enough to handle the amps, the 18 just asks for twice as many and had identical wattage to the 36. This is where Milwaukee is sinking their development budget. Instead of designing multiple platforms, they use the same type of controllers and electronics in all their tools, scale the MOSFETs up and down to hit the right wattage targets, and invest in the development of motors and mechanisms. Li-Ion batteries are capable of dumping 20 amps per cell safely nowadays, so as long as you are willing to pony up cash for the good cells, you can easily build a pack that can dump 100 amps in bursts. At 18 volts, that's over 1800 watts. That's the same power output as a 15 amp 120v plug in tool.
these guns are impressive my friend owns a tire business and thats all they do is transport tires and they have 2 of these with the HD batteries 2 for each gun and his employees love them and there is no hose to drag around or getting stuck under the corner of a tire when they move around and he said the batteries do charge up as fast as specked on the boxes, good video , great gun
The real advantage of this is that you can just grab it out of the truck and start changing 18 wheel tires. As opposed to running and air hose and filling the compressor with air.
Instead of having family and friends sitting at the dinner table, I'd rather have 2868 impact wrench accompanying while I have a filet mignon and aged fine wine.
The issues we had at work with these 1" impact was 1: the battery is not very secure and has wobbled free. 2: when the tool get hot on a hot day it will go through batteries very quickly.
I could have used one of those when I had my car with aluminum wheels. I had those darned two piece lugnuts and they are awful when they are either on too tight or just stuck. They have a metal cap on them which is like sheet metal stamped to that shape. Why Chrysler still used those horrid things even in 1995 is a mystery. It wouldn't surprise me if difficulty removing them was the number one complain with their cars.
I bought a 1 inch pneumatic gun on ebay for 120 bucks with 4 sockets. It dosnt have a brand at all but its the best 1 inch gun ive had and ive used a lot of high name brand guns
LOL it bends a 1 inch thick piece of metal... to me that says a lot but I love how you guys want to know what it can actually do so you get a bigger piece of metal, love it!
Good to see these reviews, mobile equipment mechanic, bought the smaller m18 1” to do bucket edge bolts and it’s been good, but I sure wish id seen this before I bought it!
I used a 2" and a 3" impact while working at a power plant in southern louisiana and the 2" was a pain in the ass lmao heavy af and felt like it was gonna jump out of ur hands every time u pulled the trigger. The 3" we had to use a crane to put it into place and it took 2-3 people to control.
Amazing results out of this Electric impact!! I’m curious to see how similar the results will be with the extended anvil 2869-22 version! I hope that soon I can get my hands on one of these 2869-22 however Milwaukee says my order will not be fulfilled until December sadly. Hope to see you guys test it soon!
Back in my younger days I worked in a Power Plant and I remember every once in a while we would bring out “Big Bertha”…. a 3” pneumatic impact wrench that we would have to suspend from a hoist. I remember climbing down getting into position to operate the impact wrench and I accidentally hit the trigger with my foot and one of the handles impacted my shin so hard I got a hematoma on my shin.
I mean instead of making a low current high voltage tool that would require a different battery line, they maintain their long-running M18 series and require high current. Definitely depicted with the voltage sag of the XC 5.0 not meeting current demands.
I use my pistol grip 1" gun with the 12Ah battery (secured there with a massive rubber band and zip tie to ensure it doesn't rattle the battery hookup to pieces), and generally I can remove and install the wheels on at LEAST 3 tandem axle trailers with standard 33mm lug nuts between charges. Now of course I torque all my wheels manually so I am not running down the lug nuts until they stop spinning, but I do mostly get all down to about 400-450ftlbs before my final 450ftlb torqueing. I have been kind of heavy use testing it for months with no real noticeable loss in performance.
Okay, now I want a Paoli. Thanks! Something something Peterbilt something Italian race gun... Honestly most of our equipment has the wheels off once a year minimum for annual inspections and my Aircat 1150 pulls off most 500lb/ft tractor lugs no issue. Beats hauling out the big air hose and 25lb wheel gun. That and I've got it timed, two seconds at stall is 450-475lb/ft in forwards. Probably time for a rebuild, though.
WOW ! I did not even know they made such a high torque battery powered impact wrench. There may be better models out that but for a battery powered impact that is one heck of a tool. I've always use air powered hand held, up to 1-1/2" impact wrenches and they really have some power as long as you supply a good air flow. If I had the need for an impact bigger than a 1/2" drive, I'd get a battery powered one. Thanks for posting, really a neat video. Barry, KU3X
This is the perfect channel to find out what's wrong with Milwaukee's large HO tools and 18v battery sys. The 12 amph battery will get damaged pretty quickly from heat. People are saying 6 amph will work better as it may have a higher amp load per cell. Won't have the runtime but then again it trips out a lot less.
my understanding is that FUEL is a battery optimization system similar to flexvolt, id assume a 36v milwaukee tool without fuel tech would perform similar to 18v fuel with a bigger battery. probably why big red didnt even mess with a 40v style system and hopped straight up to the huge mxfuel.
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WE GOT THE 3,000 FT-LB IR CORDLESS! See it tested vs this M18 here: th-cam.com/video/pKLRhT7PGbo/w-d-xo.html
Can you do the hikoki 36v next?
Any plans on testing 1" air impacts like the ingersoll rand 2850max-6
This is jiffy lubes secret to getting properly torqued oil drain plugs.
😂
Who ever put the oil filter on my car used one of these that's for sure.
@@armchairgeneralissimo 😂😂😂
@@armchairgeneralissimo yessir! Got to do the oil change on my moms car, oil pan bolt was breaker bar tight, filter i used biggest channel locks i had and all i had barely got it off.
Painfully accurate
One day, Milwaukee is going to make an impact so strong, that it will flip a truck over when you try to take a lug nut off.
I’d laugh it throws the person using it
@@xXAkitokunXx This thing is going to get like nicknames like big shot beast buster like some cheesy one line I can tell you right now I don’t want to hold one with one hand
Probably gonna spin the truck on the impact anvil
@@xXAkitokunXx oh no their poor shoulders
That's funny
I really need this tool to rotate tires on my Prius.
That is probably were the motor came from
And you'll finally be able to get the oil filter off too! Win win
You will rotate the whole prius🤣
I need it to rotate the tires on my Yugo.... Did I just date myself? 😃
@@ihann1baL666 that is hilarious!
I don't need this... But I kinda do need this... I have a lot of feelings happening right now 🥺
If you want to borrow it drop a line, lol
How many uga duggas for a Chrysler lug nut with one of these bad boys?
@@johnaranjo2059 if it’s not stretching out the studs, it’s not tight enough
@@johnaranjo2059 About 2 and 1/2 uga duggas, if even
Im the same. I want this just to feel satisfied.
Looks like it "feels good in your hands". Buying one.
"You can just tell" *squeezes the throttle a few times*
That's what she said
I have one. It feels heavy
@@bentrimble2167 so is my Johnston
I think it would be really cool to see the “nut busting torque” tested as nut busting torque to aide in the testing. What I mean is actually torque a bolt down to the advertised number and see if it’s able to break it free.
Also there test is only for a period of time not letting it go a far as its able to go of you stop it before it's done its not the true max it will go
When he said nut busting I had a different thought. I am sure a lot of others had that thought too.
@@allenwilliams1920 yeah but they do it to be consistent, in the same time these different tools made x amount of torque
I’d like to see a video on torque sticks and their effectiveness.
I would too
Still wrapping up testing. Have 1-2 more for sciences videos in line before torque sticks
Same here
@@TorqueTestChannel please test torque sticks on the 2868
@@chocolatethunder3218 you mean torque noodles
Just a note: The output of an impact wrench....particularly one with large hammers will be much less when there is movement in the measuring device. If you have a load with zero movement like a frozen lug nut it will produce far more torque.
but then u can’t measure the torque bruh
@@hazza2247 I agree, its kinda like when they say a top fuel dragster has 11000 hp. They did not dyno a fuel motor rather it is extrapolated mathematically from lots of data collected during the run. Just because its hard to measure mechanically does not mean that its an unimportant consideration when choosing a tool. To me the big issue with the large hammer lower speed of many electrics is not the power but rather the lack of control when trying to evenly tighten fasteners to say 100 lb ft.
@@richardgavle6343 i agree
I want to use that tool to assemble some Ikea furniture.
I thought of putting on a 1'' to 1/4 inch reducer so i can tighten on my rc trucks wheels on
ive been battling my plastic toilet seat bolts, I NEED THIS IMPACT!!!!
All I wanted was to use the adaptor for a Philips to remove and tighten iPhone screws finally I don’t have to break my fingertips.
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just superglue bit in socket
@@dancearoundtheworld5360 and here I am struggling on how to do it thanks a million
I think that for the time being, until you guys design a new impact dyno, it's best to put an asterisk on its score since it did beat the living crap out of the dyno and it's bolts
Yes, spot on. With any new category of tools we like to be able to verify results, which is why you haven't seen 3/4" air yet. With this, we just havent run into anything else we can put it against for some useful data comparison. When/if we come up with something bigger for these types of tools and it has a friend to test next to, we'll be able to verify or update these numbers happily.
@@TorqueTestChannel be cool to see a petrol powered impact like what railroad gangs use.
These runs are way more fun to see than the olympics were
I work for Boeing, we received a few and I have to say most of my other coworkers returned to air impact. But I still use them on and off, like you said it’s great for certain things.
I'm a Dewalt guy myself, but Milwaukee just makes really cool stuff.
You guys run such an honest and fair channel that you deserve all the good that comes with it.
I just want to buy it for the cool factor. I’d use an adapter to an adapter to adapter to remove a 1/4” bolt. Impress the girls who come in the shop. “Yep, there’s more where that came from ladies”
I remember getting my first cordless impact many many years ago and impressing my brother by busting off a bunch of 10mm bolts on the side of a lawnmower engine. 😄 yeah, real strong!
@@volvo09 I did something similar with my new impact wrench that I got yesterday. I had this lawn mower deck laying around, and it has these 22mm bolts holding the belt pulleys that spin the blades. They are virtually impossible to get off without a impact wrench. I told my brother to watch me try and get these things off a here, and man it was so much fun. Impact wrenches are strangely fun to use!
Use it to pop off 10mms lol
@@ThePLAsticBoxxx if you can find your 10mm socket lol
@@volvo09 breaking small bolts with impacts is waaay more fun than big ones for me
I've been waiting for this, I can change most semi tires with a 2767 1/2 gun but it won't touch some of the more rusted rims. This with cut the time I spend on the side of the road in half and it only weighs half of my IR pneumatic gun. Thanks a lot for doing this so guys like me wouldn't waste money just to find out if it's worth spending money on these tools
Have you tried it yet? Was it as good as you’d hoped?
@@Number1FanProductions no haven't got one yet I want the extended anvil and they are sold out everywhere.
@@corpsegrinderak same here been trying to get one since last year smh
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
"Assemble with hand tools only" Perfect job for my new tool! 👌
33yr tyreguy here. I think 1" cordless guns are finally ready for road service.its all about reverse.Thanks for posting
I love that this tool gives so much, and is still cheaper than a snap-on ratchet with a "free" hat
Subscribe or we'll only test no-name Amazon brands from now on :P
I mean, those are pretty fun to see too. The testing is awesome but it’s really the commentary that makes it worth watching every single video
BWAHAHAHAH This is the most genius YT tactic I've seen yet. 10/10 will steal.
"Subscribe or we'll only feature truly terrible tool videos from now on."
I went and subbed from all 10 of my Google accounts...
I actually would love to see you test some wish or other no name tools for the lols
Bahahahahahah
The official impact wrench of "I'm no longer asking"
Kinda interested to see what Milwaukee could do if they made an Mx fuel impact wrench considering that voltage wise it's about the same as 4 m18 batterys
Good God you're gonna give me a stiffy
I've had my hands on one of those MX fuel concrete saws. The battery alone is 6-10 lbs depending on capacity.
Talk about a wrist breaker. But I would buy one in a heartbeat no matter the cost and I don’t even own 1” drive sockets
@@whirledpeaz5758 back pack power supply with a short tool cord.
That torque reading at 15 seconds was still climbing substantially. Do you know where it peaks and how long that takes if your hands can take the punishment????
That Makita XGT is pretty impressive for a 3/4 inch hand held....💪
Especially given the relative size and price!
I love that Milwaukee made this impact. And the pistol grip style. Just amazing how far battery powered tools have come. However I feel like Milwaukee needs to come out with a larger battery platform….24 or 36v
They have the 72v MX line, which this tool should really be in.
@@MustPassTruck yeah I just feel its too long.
But ya if they made one that was on the MX line they’d take down the Empire State Building with it 🤣
Milwaukee doesn't want to pull the bullshit that all these other companies do: which is keep spamming more battery standards to try to beat Milwaukee. Look at how much higher the voltage output is on all these other companies, yet they're only slightly better.
Shops buy $10,000s of these tools because they know they can rely on the standards, which is why you usually don't see the other brands in bigger shops: they don't trust them to ruin a standard. What they need to do, like was said, was to have a dual battery setup.
If they gave a M24 Fuel battery platform it'll blow everything out of the cordless tool competition 😂
Big Red's planning on 2x M18 tools.
If you take patent applications as any indication of future released designs.
No they aren’t. Milwaukee said they don’t need X2 tools or a higher voltage at NPS a few years ago. They said M18 could could do it all
@@Andrew-xd9fg Hmm, your 2 year old information to my 2 week old information.
Used to work at a diesel shop where they had some old chain gun style impacts that one of the 45 year diesel mechanics used to rebuild. He claimed back when these were made you couldn't even measure the torque they made accurately. I believe it. Would shatter 3 inch bolts off of giant komatsu cranes that were seized. Nothing could stop these machines.
What are these impact drivers you are referring to called ? I would like to read up on them :)
We have to get one of those to the TTC guys.
Been using this for 2 months now love it. Was a lil disappointed with the 1" high torque as it seems my 3/4" was just as strong bit much cheaper. The D handle 1" is a beast though.
This gun(and it’s extended anvil brother) is the answer us field service guy were looking got. Track pad bolts, idlers, sprockets, semi lugs, the list goes on and on. This damn near will keep you from firing up the compressor.
Damn! What a f'kn beast.
Thinking back 25 years to what cordless tools were capable of... We've come a long way!
Yeah no kidding. Back then cordless tools struggled to turn in a machine screw. 🤣
Would love to see how this compares to a pneumatic d handle impact. That would be an instant buy if it's even close to comparable
Got a 1" pneumatic gun at the shop. Would take off stuck truck lugs off. Milwaukee 3/4" HD pistol grip impact spun them off without any trouble at all.
Hook up you air gun to the shop hose then throw it in the truck. Thats where this gun probably really pays to have.
@@kevincampbell4688 Yes, but to be honest, anyone who needs a large 1" impact is going to have the compressor in the truck to run it also.
@@cchavezjr7 thats a good point. Although being able to do the same work without the restraints of cords and air lines is sure starting to become convenient
@@kevincampbell4688 Definitely. Even in my shop I've switched to battery even though I have plenty of extension cables.
Nice test and thank you! I just ordered one of these few days ago but without the battery - since I have a few HD12 batteries
Man I can see that being perfect for tractor and combine wheels in the field
I think milwaukee should advertise this with “can bend 1 inch hardened steel
I’ve got one. Use it for 19.5 & 22.5 tires. I couldn’t be happier with it.
I saw in your video you mentioned the new Ingersoll Rand cordless 1 inch impact tool. It’s a beast of a tool. Back when I had a job before the virus I had the opportunity to run one of them. And I can say it really puts the down the torque
9:03 :P
I’d love to see the IR D handle model when you get ahold of one!
I was looking for the perfect tool to change the tires on my trailer. Thank you!
What this really proves is how insane the Makita is for it's size
Agreed, I’m very impressed! It’ll be interesting to see what Milwaukee answers with when they update their line-up soon. When it comes to impact tools these two companies have been doing the most to innovate lately.
Ive been using a gen2 m18 fuel 1/2 mid torque impact and god damn that thing is a killer.
Ahhh finally a tool for me to tighten my spark plugs
Stopped it around 90 seconds, got a beer, rolled a joint.... this is gonna be a good one!
Although the editing at the start of the video made me think I already had the joint
We use these on the railroad and I can honestly say I'm so happy we don't have to fuck around with hydraulics anymore
I'd like to see how a 1" extended anvil air impact rates to this for speed and ability while changing semi truck tires.
What a channel. Tickles me in my power tool man spot.
This TH-cam money must slap if you can get this tool, shoutout that viewer who donated the battery!!
“Making piles of torque… everywhere” 😂😂
I work in refineries and that's all we use is Milwaukee impacts. Nothing beats it.
My father uses one of these at a quarry to bolt on the wheels of the loaders that load the Trucks, These are bad ass.
It's amazing that this tool exceed the limits the dyno. Do you calculate torque from hydraulic pressure only?
You exceeded the combined system of faceplate yielding, bolt stretch, and hydraulic support. And hydraulic support, at some point, is probably more related to radial hose stretching / ballooning.
I love this channel. Your measurement system is great. I think somehow this tool is abusing the limits of the Dyno setup in nonlinear / multiple ways, which is pretty wild.
I told my wife this is what I'm saving up for.
Have you guys ever thought of testing bathroom fans. I just bought a Panasonic bathroom fan that says it’s 390 CMF. It dose suck plenty of air. It would be cool to see you rate other bathroom fans.
Anyway great video, I always enjoy the hard work you guys put into your video’s. 👍
this is the most dad comment ever
So epic. Can’t wait to see the f1 wheel gun!
F1 wheel gun vs nascar ones
Idea for quantifying performance--calculate the "area under the curve". It's a math/ calculus thing....it would quantify the amount of "work" (i.e. physics terminology for Watts/ amount of energy exerted by the tool). It might help represent the subjective experience of using a tool when peak torque doesn't tell the whole story?
When you look at tools, you have to remember that it's wattage for power output, and watts are just volts(amps). If you double the volts, you need half the amps to reach the same wattage.
This is why you can have 18/20 volt tools that perform identically to 36, 48, or 60 volt tools. As long as the battery cells can provide the amps, and the contacts/wire gauge is beefy enough to handle the amps, the 18 just asks for twice as many and had identical wattage to the 36.
This is where Milwaukee is sinking their development budget. Instead of designing multiple platforms, they use the same type of controllers and electronics in all their tools, scale the MOSFETs up and down to hit the right wattage targets, and invest in the development of motors and mechanisms. Li-Ion batteries are capable of dumping 20 amps per cell safely nowadays, so as long as you are willing to pony up cash for the good cells, you can easily build a pack that can dump 100 amps in bursts. At 18 volts, that's over 1800 watts. That's the same power output as a 15 amp 120v plug in tool.
Just bought a Bosch 740. Now I’m depressed. Great channel. Thanks
these guns are impressive my friend owns a tire business and thats all they do is transport tires and they have 2 of these with the HD batteries 2 for each gun and his employees love them and there is no hose to drag around or getting stuck under the corner of a tire when they move around and he said the batteries do charge up as fast as specked on the boxes, good video , great gun
I wonder how the 1 inch air impacts would stand up to this tool. They look to be a bit cheaper too
Yeah I really want to see the HF 1" pistol and regular air impacts added to this chart
The real advantage of this is that you can just grab it out of the truck and start changing 18 wheel tires. As opposed to running and air hose and filling the compressor with air.
@Thrillhunter this is true. But for in a shop it may be easier to move around and worry about the batteries not having enough charge
You'd still need a generator in order to charge the battery
@@abechavez1876 inverter is your friend.
Instead of having family and friends sitting at the dinner table, I'd rather have 2868 impact wrench accompanying while I have a filet mignon and aged fine wine.
That’s one heavy duty vibrator. 😏
I just found out that Ingersoll Rand just released an 1 inch impact that is battery powered as well
The issues we had at work with these 1" impact was 1: the battery is not very secure and has wobbled free. 2: when the tool get hot on a hot day it will go through batteries very quickly.
I could have used one of those when I had my car with aluminum wheels. I had those darned two piece lugnuts and they are awful when they are either on too tight or just stuck. They have a metal cap on them which is like sheet metal stamped to that shape. Why Chrysler still used those horrid things even in 1995 is a mystery. It wouldn't surprise me if difficulty removing them was the number one complain with their cars.
I bought a 1 inch pneumatic gun on ebay for 120 bucks with 4 sockets. It dosnt have a brand at all but its the best 1 inch gun ive had and ive used a lot of high name brand guns
I have to stop everything and watch this. I even allow the ads to roll. Thanks for the great content.
LOL it bends a 1 inch thick piece of metal... to me that says a lot but I love how you guys want to know what it can actually do so you get a bigger piece of metal, love it!
Time to start thinking of using tool steel in your dyno rig.
I've used a 2inch air impact gun. I wonder what kind of torque those things make.
The one thing you can't find in the truck shop I work in is a empty outlet! We have all switched to battery powered tools.
Good to see these reviews, mobile equipment mechanic, bought the smaller m18 1” to do bucket edge bolts and it’s been good, but I sure wish id seen this before I bought it!
We just got one of these for work a couple months ago and boy does it rip! It’s busted out bolts that are torqued to 1050 Nm
I used a 2" and a 3" impact while working at a power plant in southern louisiana and the 2" was a pain in the ass lmao heavy af and felt like it was gonna jump out of ur hands every time u pulled the trigger. The 3" we had to use a crane to put it into place and it took 2-3 people to control.
Amazing results out of this Electric impact!! I’m curious to see how similar the results will be with the extended anvil 2869-22 version! I hope that soon I can get my hands on one of these 2869-22 however Milwaukee says my order will not be fulfilled until December sadly. Hope to see you guys test it soon!
Back in my younger days I worked in a Power Plant and I remember every once in a while we would bring out “Big Bertha”…. a 3” pneumatic impact wrench that we would have to suspend from a hoist. I remember climbing down getting into position to operate the impact wrench and I accidentally hit the trigger with my foot and one of the handles impacted my shin so hard I got a hematoma on my shin.
Thanks, Enjoy the science, Milwaukee has been getting my $$ for decades. Was a/c tech ,Now heavy truck service. Later from Texas.
Now I just need to convince my girl that this is needed this to remove lug nuts from my impala! Great job testing!
show her the front hub nuts, you know, the 35mm ones, that take a special tool like this to remove, winner with a chicken dinner
I mean instead of making a low current high voltage tool that would require a different battery line, they maintain their long-running M18 series and require high current. Definitely depicted with the voltage sag of the XC 5.0 not meeting current demands.
1,200 ft-lb is INSANE.
Equivalent to 100lbs pushing the end of a TWELVE FOOT breaker bar.
Pretty cool tool. Looking forward to th IR monster. LOLS
Man this is insane! The 1" m18 fuel is a beast but this is unbelievable.
I wanna see this thing run a regular screw… wonder how quick it would sink it
I use my pistol grip 1" gun with the 12Ah battery (secured there with a massive rubber band and zip tie to ensure it doesn't rattle the battery hookup to pieces), and generally I can remove and install the wheels on at LEAST 3 tandem axle trailers with standard 33mm lug nuts between charges. Now of course I torque all my wheels manually so I am not running down the lug nuts until they stop spinning, but I do mostly get all down to about 400-450ftlbs before my final 450ftlb torqueing. I have been kind of heavy use testing it for months with no real noticeable loss in performance.
Okay, now I want a Paoli. Thanks! Something something Peterbilt something Italian race gun...
Honestly most of our equipment has the wheels off once a year minimum for annual inspections and my Aircat 1150 pulls off most 500lb/ft tractor lugs no issue. Beats hauling out the big air hose and 25lb wheel gun. That and I've got it timed, two seconds at stall is 450-475lb/ft in forwards. Probably time for a rebuild, though.
As a diesel tech for kenworth ill have to give this a try. I hate tripping over the hose all day.
WOW ! I did not even know they made such a high torque battery powered impact wrench. There may be better models out that but for a battery powered impact that is one heck of a tool. I've always use air powered hand held, up to 1-1/2" impact wrenches and they really have some power as long as you supply a good air flow.
If I had the need for an impact bigger than a 1/2" drive, I'd get a battery powered one.
Thanks for posting, really a neat video.
Barry, KU3X
"What kinda torque do these lug nuts need?" Milwaukee - "All of it!"
Hey guys remember the snap-on tool truck cordless tools.. everybody thought they were the s*** but in reality they were f****** terrible.
At my work (in Germany) we have Hilti Exoskeleton for heavy tools. Makes it so much easier to Handel them safer buy one of those and test them too
I recently got the ext. anvil version which has an lug nut mode via one key, worth the money.
Torque Dyno never thought I'd see this in my recommended
This makes the 40V Makita look more impressive because of the package size.
You're not wrong.
This is the perfect channel to find out what's wrong with Milwaukee's large HO tools and 18v battery sys.
The 12 amph battery will get damaged pretty quickly from heat. People are saying 6 amph will work better as it may have a higher amp load per cell. Won't have the runtime but then again it trips out a lot less.
Now this is how I tighten all bolts.
You should do shorts with this new toy. Like tighten a small dry wall screw to hang a picture. Unless it goes through the hole altogether!
new dyno rig with all new 2" titanium plate!
my understanding is that FUEL is a battery optimization system similar to flexvolt, id assume a 36v milwaukee tool without fuel tech would perform similar to 18v fuel with a bigger battery. probably why big red didnt even mess with a 40v style system and hopped straight up to the huge mxfuel.
The dedication of this channel got me to sub and like the video
It would be interesting to see if the extend anvil version would have the same power on the dyno!
We'll be doing an extended anvil vs standard anvil in general video!
This channel is great and the growth is well deserved.
Have you guys done a video explaining your background and how the channel came to be?
I like that you get excited about tools! Ima go buy a shirt! We need more videos!!
Hook it up to other impact wrenches, clamp them both down, and watch them tear them apart lol