The Gas Chainsaw Powered Railroad Impact Wrench
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We strap a Stihl MS660 chainsaw clone in the form of a Farmertec G660 to the business end of a Racine railway impact wrench, then see what kind of beans it can make!
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In the past we made the 1st gas gun at 100K subs, and the 2nd at 200k. But when you put a chainsaw impact together and it works, you don't just let it gather dust in the corner until some number is hit. Enjoy!
Well you know what to do guys! Click the thing!
if you want some custom parts made, hit me up, i can cook something up, like custom hammers and anvils, main drawback would be shipping them from europe
Put a super bike engine on it ( I’m thinking R1 or triumph 675 ) they go up to 13000 rpm easily some even go too 16000.
Also they have 100 or more hp
You should get Walker to build you a Husky 395. He's on Jinglepot Road in Naniamo, BC, Canada.
hmmm. Maybe try and make a flywheel style impact similar to that amazon special egg beater
Time to partner with a machinist channel to make a custom hammer assembly for these Frankenstein beasts
A This Old Tony meets Torque Test Channel would be GREAT entertainment
@@rayjohnson6559 everyone go start talking about TTC in his comments
I like that idea. Partner with another youtuber. Maybe those safety third guys.
I was thinking of the chap Warped Perception, I think with his love of high RPM and ability to build and balance 100k RPM jet engines they would work well together, TOT would also be brilliant.
@@rayjohnson6559 Adam Savage over at Tested would be one possible partner. :)
These Frankensteins just keep getting better and better TTC
Let’s see a 350 small block impact
Uh, actually I think you mean these Frankenstein's monsters just keep getting better.
4:06 Stihl has always had the best accessories.
You should go the over volting route next. Mod in a higher volt controller and throw 40v at some of the 18-24v tools would be interesting
VESC would be the tool for the job.
Ah... Brings me back to the early days of electric Nerf blaster modding.
Seeing six blocks of Chinesium IMR cells daisy-chained to put mains voltage through a plastic machine gun and spit darts at 750RPM bacj in 2009 was certainly something.
Go whole hog and hook it up to a 440v three phase system.
I’d love to see a 10 kW three phase motor connected to an accelerating gearbox or cranked way up on a VFD connected to that IR impact mechanism
Have you someone in mind who will manage to operate it. You’re into Worlds Strongest Man territory
@@zorrosoxter4703 about a 150lb motor. Not nearly world's strongest man territory. Especially if you put it on a trolley like video showed rail crews using.
@@sammorgan31 150lbs is pretty tough to maneuver at an awkward angle. You'd have to be a pretty big guy to capably handle it
@@dkis8730 Swolewrench.
@@dkis8730 400 pound gorilla meets the one tool they can't break.
That's a really nice uhh...chainsaw at 4:07.
What's wild is just how much that Milwaukee performs all said and done.
Man that stihl 881 has a gorgeous back end design just perfect to grab a hold of!
I paused d vid just to admire that 👀 😆 love itt
@@raymartin4160 Let the sickness begin! Can not stop laughing!
@@allentisthammer4763 sweetness not sickness buddy 🤣
Saw donk
Men of culture, I welcome you to this meeting of great minds that think alike...
Great video, you guys are the Dr. Nefario of the Impact testing youtube community, over 40 years ago i built farm equipment in the late 70's early 80's and when we put the tractor frames together we used a 1 1/4 or 1 1/2" drive gun to install the frame bolts to the axles and double nutted each one and this was to the tune of just under 1300 ft lbs , we switched off each time and the gun was mounted on a custom dolly and had wheels that flipped up pneumatically and dowel pins that went down into the concrete floor, we had to wear customized hearing protection while performing our work, just shy of 129 DB's and were only allowed a week on and a week off, putting the tires on the axles was a cake walk compared to doing the frame, wheel torque was a tiny 500 ft lbs , love the builds , just replacing the spring in that gun could bring, my guess another 10% extra torque, we'll leave that up to you 2 Dr. Nefarios ,👍 I'll stick with my Makita mid torque it does everything i need and i have a large 3/4" drive for heavier stuff
at thins point you should just call up IR's research department and ask their engineers what stupid ideas they have that IR would never let them do.
Malice in the gearbox palace! Thanks guys. Entertaining as always.
That oil looked like it came straight from @ I Do Cars oil pan.
Thought I would throw one of these in the back of my Camry just in case I have a flat.
I know it's outside the channels scope, but it would be awesome to see a TTC on the road: Traveling to mining companies to see how they torque those big truck tires for example.
Boring answer - they use a Hytorq or something equivalent
@@DarkFox6211818orrect
Hydraulic or a gear reduction torque multiplier like hytorq and its very uneventful. Which is a plus for them of course!
@@TorqueTestChannel when we used to rebuild 8" diameter parker hydraulics (3H I think) the tie rods were a 3200ft-lb torque spec... All we had was a 20' breaker bar.
yes hydraulic wrenches go crazy high especially cartridge style. i have 3/4, 1 and 1 1/2 drive hydraulic. 7000 ft lbs with the 1 1/2 which i have used to tighten an 8 inch tierod nut on a hydraulic press. it's not enough but worked well enough that it stopped stretching when the press went to full load at 900 tons.
Hytorq are uneventful...until they're not. 😂 Had a hose blow at 7000 psi. I got an oil shower but was very lucky it didn't rupture closer to me. It's really scary when you start stretching 3 1/2" studs to 40-60 KSI. Even scarier when you get so comfortable doing it you don't think about how much pressure that is anymore. Til something goes wrong and it reminds you how squishy we are.
The reason why you don't see a massive increase in torque with this driver and a lot of other drivers is the anvil and dog are not tuned to the power source. Basically you need to make sure that the anvil and dog have modal frequencies where their resonances have constructive interference with each other. You also need to take into account the motor RPM so the dog and anvil can maintain the right blows per minute to continue the harmonics. This is why sometimes you can see small impacts that have a very high output, while there are others that are quite large, however their torque output is underwhelming. In my opinion, a lot of it comes down to the tuning.
This is very true. Though we increased the Milwaukee 1/2" nearly two fold. So there are opportunities out there
Very true!
Love the "for science" videos, definitely my favorite. Keep up the good work!
If you're doing more Frankenstein creations with gas powered engines, try hitting up JohnnyQ and ask what he'd suggest. The guy seems to be a wizard at building tiny engines and gearboxes. Could make for an interesting collaboration.
I concur Johnny is a genius when it comes to little engines and gearboxes
johnny is great but in this case we'd need bigger then tiny gearboxes.
tiny hanmerbox on a chainsaw 😁😁😁
@@casemodder89 JohnnyQ gearbox design, AvE and Abom manufacturing
That IR cordless hits pretty hard, you should put the chainsaw engine on the gearbox of that one. Of course that means you’d have to buy it first.
I use the M18 1-in extended anvil gun everyday for work. I work on big rigs. There are times when it is not enough and I find myself reaching for the Harbor Freight Earthquake XT to break decently rusted lugs that I feel like the M18 should have no problem with. I've been lusting after that IR for a long time but I can't afford it. Not only is the earthquake XT able to break some insanely scary looking s*** but I can't help but wonder how much more powerful it is then the Milwaukee. And it's Harbor Freight and costs sub $500 I can't help but wonder how much more powerful the other big brands are....
I know you guys mentioned that you can't test these big guns with your current compressor setup. I'm able to run the XT on 3/4-in line from a 12 horsepower compressor with a 150 gallon tank. Line pressure will drop to about 95 PSI when giving it full beans but I don't think you can get much better than that. I guess my point is even without the correct air setup I think getting some data from the 1" air guns might help some of the guys out there that need the torque. Even if it does need a disclaimer about tested line pressure at the beginning of each video.
Anyways, there's my little $0.03.
The biggest thing i've found that helps the big air guns is hooking your hose direct to the main tank, most compressors have a regulator that cant keep the pressure up. I also always use the bigger hose and couplers on 1".
It's 3¢s now? Goddamn inflation.
TTC. You know what this chainsaw needs.
Nitros.
The leather welding sleeves were a nice touch.🤙
This is just getting closer and closer to true insanity, but it’s so glorious
First I love how things on this channel escalated so quickly haha and second I was really hoping for a NOS edition of the hot saw.... then I saw it is terminal 😢
Did you just clip Killinger? Nice he is an awesome guy.
Chainsaw junkie here. Long week. You have no idea how much I needed this.
At least you got it together. Most LS swaps never get done. Jes' sayin'..............
Woah, a Cleetus x TTC crossover is one I didn’t expect, but need to see! :D
Sure...you could have asked for 300k subs before presenting this creation....but you didnt...once again sticking to your own code of operations.That makes this channel very respectable...and is to me a smart choice.
I want to use this to replace tires for my enemies 😆
Awesome job
None of the other ones have the intimidation factor quite like the new TTC.
Try getting a monster RC brushless motor, like from castle or similar. 20k rpm and some over 10hp
You got to do a turbo impact now. It’s the next step.
I would suppose a turbine would be the next logical step.
I understand your point on the limitations of the LS RPM limit, but have you thought of using a rotary instead? Lol
The RPM range on those Doritos are insane.
Or a motorcycle engine of some sort...
Get a rotary from Rob Dahm. He is the rotary whisperer.
@SomeGuy's Garage Hayabusa impact lolololololo
the rpm on scaled down turbo jet engines is insane, close to one hundred thousand rpm they should try that, idk how they would set that up and it’d be very unsafe but i’d love to see it
Sachs did make some smaller rotaries put in chainsaws and snowmobiles 🤔
I had to check if it was April fool's day today. Excited to see what you actually do for April fool's.
Thanks for the fun video. Interested to see how an ice auger does now. Those puppies can rip! Electric or gas. 4 vs 2 stroke. My Honda lite 4 stroke rips ice like butter. Sure it can't be an impact wrench. But you can still try😁. Thank you for the videos!
I've got the g660 pro, she's a bit rough round the edges but it can't be beaten for the price!
You should frankenstein a kitchenaid mixer into an impact for all of the Husband's wives out there.
On that chainsaw if you are planning for using it for anything else. I would recommend plugging the decomp or getting an OEM husky or Stihl, They are the same thread. The reason being is the clone's have been known to snap and drop into the cylinder.
yep those clones are Junk, people never wanna listen, because they are cheap.
I’ve got the g660, only really ran it once through some wood so far, 32” maple with a 36” stihl bar and chain, rips like no one’s business, recommend turnin the oil up so you oil your bar more
Lewis makes chainsaw-specific attachments such as drills and winches. I've used the winches on multiple occasions and they're pretty strong!
What about putting the saw on the IR? Or for very high RPM a modified RC jet engine :D
You're gonna need a 1 1/2" anvil on these things before long.
Maybe an M-Tesla next?
This thing just keeps getting better and better!... How do these compare to those big 1" pneumatic impact guns?... Also, have you considered using few paintball high pressure air or CO2 tanks with air tool regulator kits feeding into one in parallel then cranking up the pressure past 200psi?
There is a balance between the motor power and the hammer weight. The hammer unit itself, the leverage arm length of the anvil matters too. A shorter anvil (relative to the rotation axle) will require harder impacts pushing the limits of tool steel. However a very wide hammer reduces the ability to torque bolts making bolts closer to the floor/rock/wall/imovable object. See what you have done now I must spend the whole Sunday thinking about a large impact driver with an offset anvil so that you still can access bolts close to the floor and also have anvils with longer leverage arms.
This channel is getting better and better hahaha
You were so preoccupied with whether you could, you didn’t stop the think if you should…but I’m glad you did! Awesome stuff.
alright, I haven't seen it suggested, but have you considered dipping into RC engines run on nitro? Might be the next logical step with their insanely high RPM figures.
They probably don't make enough torque to get into the power band and if it did I don't imagine it could handle the vibration
Rc engines are too small. Even the 1/5 scale cars as large as they are just use a small weed whacker engine. That's part of the reason why they rev so high, cuz they're tiny lil baby pistons and con rods.
brushless dc motors blow nitro motors out of the water and have for many years now
@@NightshiftCustom nobody likes electric. we need the bangs and the fumes !
@@casemodder89 ya that's not the case when they are selling way more brushless RC car's and trucks then nitro powered hands down
You invoked the spirit of Leroy the savage, of course you broke it!
Hoping one day for an F1 impact wrench. Perhaps reaching out to Haas for a collab when they are in texas/miami/vegas this year.
Id love to see you put together one of these with a custom hammer design and a beefier spring to shoot for the moon on torque.
You guys are the best.
If you end up throwing Leroy's engine to it, make sure you rig up a push button HAMMER brake and 2 step. You know, for those 30PSI boosted uggas off the rip
Collaboration between TTC and 2strokestuffing would be pretty interesting
As usual, narrative writing is superb 👍
Hey, thanks really appreciate that. Get a lot of people commenting that are clearly having a bad day, so these make up for it!
love these. it would be interesting to see what giant hobby grade RC motors can do like the hobbywing max 4 or a castle creations setup
"I don't know what it is but I imagine you need it." Best line ever...lol
Love it when you guys do these types of videos, keep up the great work 👏
She’s got the chooch now son love it
A tool that will never be needed. Well done
Oh no! It’s the “South West-ish lower Indiana Chainsaw Impact Massacre”!
I see you made the forbidden glitter. Keep up the good entertaining work.
“I don’t know what that is but I imagine you need it” famous last words 😂
"It sounds way more pissed off." That's all I need. I'll take 10.
Impressive but It had its limits. Next stop: that chainsaw motor on the Ingersoll- beast :)
That is some serious metal gravy.
with the same hammer, yes a 6l v8 is comparable to the railway thing, but with bigger hamerand spring it will snap bolts just loocking at them you can make an hammer and slap it to a car wheel, russian style :)
I like the idea of hot-rodding a cordless impact with a rather large brushless r/c model motor and controller, that could easily yield a wrist-breaking monster of a tool...
Oh yeah! I bet a 1/8th scale motor would be perfect to absolutely throw some numbers down
@@simplybeanjelly 1/8? rookie I'd be more interested in a 1/5 motor out of the baja conversions or 5t haha
Just a fun video.
Nice change up.
This video deserves more views!
Kroil! Good to see you use the best stuff!
I have nothing to do with power tools of any kind .... but i find these videos fascinating!!!!
My Sunday go to is project farm, but I saw this monstrosity and said heck yeah!! The stihl 440 clone might get you a few more RPM’s especially if you had it ported for high end rpm
I believe you guys can beat the ir if you build your own gearbox from scratch with the chainsaw as a power unit
Love the Frankentools series!
Now you need to bolt the Holzfforma to an eggbeater impact driver. 7hp and 13k rpm should turn the egg beater into a whisk :D
It'd be cool to see you team up with AvE, this old Tony, Abomb, or even fireball tools to come up with a slightly bigger anvil and a bigger spring design. Even if it was just slightly bigger I just like to see what gains or losses you get. Also while using the same housing.
Goddammit Bonkworks you've done it again
Definitely worth venturing back into electric to chase some real beans.. for a few hundred bucks you can get a brushless motor & power system intended to replace a 150cc engine for (large) model aeroplanes! Sky high RPM and absolute tons of power. The hard part will be finding or modding a business end to handle it.
best CSI episode EVER!!! (Chain Saw Impact)
Be cool to see the highest performing pneumatic 1" big boys
On big construction jobs we use big sline drive impact guns on 3/4 or some time 1 inch air lines that are instant air tankless systems the things are big and heavy. Test one of those comared to the batteries
You guys are forgetting to mention the badass Factor!
I've NEVER wanted anything more, that I seriously don't need.
Seems like using that gearbox and anvil at closer to 30k rpm from a smaller electric motor should be the ticket.
Love how everyone I appreciate loves our boy Cleeter as well 🔥🙏👍
And another thing to add to the "It doesn't need to exist but im glad it does" list.
Next up on TTC... RC Jet engine powered ratchets and impacts.
For semi truck wheel workers, the IR is the winner. The Milwaukaki would be also IF it had at least a 8" long anvil.
4:06 that's a lot of chainsaw, damn.
you need to do a collab with some channels like abom79 to build the impact mechanism, a hotrod chainsaw builder, and an engineering channel to complain about mechanics having too good of lives. do a proper full custom build from scratch
Only one thing left to do make a custom anvil and strap an LS to it
Gotta find a way to bolt this bad boy up to a battery 1” anvil. While short lived this thing was awesome to see.
I work in the track department and use these gas powered impacts almost daily, when I first started Ithought they would be stronger than they actually are.
there are a bunch of times we end up torch cutting bolts off because the impact cant break them loose.
Put this engine on the IR impact for all the beans.
Great video. I think the IR gearbox should be adapted to your chainsaw setup OR the IR gearbox onto Milwaukee MX platform somehow. Possibly the core drill or cut off saw?
Now I know what motor I'm throwing on my scooter!
Gear the LS up to 1 to 6. At 5k rpm you would be seeing 30K for the gun. Could even go 1 to 10.
I think the HP figures are a little overstated. For each 25cc you'll roughly obtain 1 HP running at petrol (gasoline) ... running nitro-methane you'll get approximately 2 - 2.5 HP per 25cc.
I want to see that 12v cigarette lighter nonsense wind up impact converted to use m18 or similar battery. The thing swung way above its weight class and it would be a shame to leave it alone.
Also, the RC motors, or ebike/small ev motors hmmm.... RC will have the RPM's. PMAC motors with a CVT is interesting. Looking forward to what you come up with.
Make a super capacitor boosted battery with sold copper buss bars for the IR.
Also, get an oscilloscope and look at the voltage drop at the motor inputs on the high torque guns.
I've said it before but will gladly say it again. Lipo batteries and the biggest BLDC motor ESC combo you can muster. Need rpm? How about 50k? Not enough you can get custom motors mad if you need 😅
Time to slap an engine on the Cordless IR impact end