I think your criticism of the button on the snap on is well deserved. When I pay a premium price, I expect them to not save a few pennies on things like those buttons. I know that Snap On makes fewer tools, and it’s expensive to make things in low volume. But if they can’t make a better tool, they really shouldn’t even bother IMHO.
Owned this snap on impact wrench for a while and loved it. I also recently bought the m12 gen2 stubby. I then traded back my snap on impact because the Milwaukee dominated it in every way. Love the gen 2 stubby. It’s my go to impact wrench. Love the videos! Thanks for all the hard work!
I love my gen 1 stubby, going to get this one as soon as Christmas comes around with the sales. I've got every milwaukee impact all the way up to the 1" d handle, love all of them.
Snap-on really should stick to just hand tools. Their hand tools have always been top notch, their power tools are for fan boys, overpriced, under powered and a ( I dont back it sorry warranty). So many better options and it doesn't have to be Milwaukee either.
@@kevg1915 Honest question. How are they beasts? + Its super compact. - Not really. The head is. The tool body sitting 1 inch below is quite large. + Its got high torque. - Its average. There are ratchets that are more capable for torque. + Its fast. - Again, its average. It keeps up with competition. Nothing special. + Solid warranty and repair. - No different from the competition. My last Snap-On electric tool took 2 months to be repaired. I asked to upgrade, was given the product catalog and told to buy a new tool. + The price is good. - Think about it. It costs 5-20% more to make a product in the US. Snap on CTR861ADB is $425 (Tool Only). Milwaukee INSIDER is $300 (Tool AND Sockets). Add 20% to $300. The INSIDER would cost ROUGHLY $360 with Sockets. Why. Do. People. Keep. Defending. Snap-On. Electric. Tools.
@@kevg1915 Honest question. How are they beasts? . Its super compact. - Not really. The head is. The tool body sitting 1 inch below is quite large. . Its got high torque. - Its average. There are ratchets that are more capable for torque. . Its fast. - Again, its average. It keeps up with competition. Nothing special. . Solid warranty and repair. - No different from the competition. My last Snap-On electric tool took 2 months to be repaired. I asked to upgrade, was given the product catalog and told to buy a new tool. . The price is good. - Think about it. It costs 5-20% more to make a product in the US. Snap on CTR861ADB is $425 (Tool Only). Milwaukee INSIDER is $300 (Tool AND Sockets). Add 20% to $300. The INSIDER would cost ROUGHLY $360 with Sockets. Why. Do. People. Keep. Defending. Snap-On. Electric. Tools.
@@kevg1915 Honest question. How are they beasts? Its super compact! Not really. The head is. The tool handle is large. Its got high torque! Its average. There are ratchets that are more capable for torque. Its fast. Again, its average! It keeps up with competition. Nothing special. Solid warranty and repair! - No different from the competition. My last Snap-On electric tool took 2 months to be repaired. I asked to upgrade, was given the product catalog and told to buy a new tool. The price is good! - Consider this. It costs 5-20% more to make a product in the US. Snap on ratchet is $425 (Tool Only). Milwaukee INSIDER is $300 (Tool AND Sockets). Add 20% to $300. The INSIDER would cost ROUGHLY $360 with Sockets. Why. Do. People. Keep. Defending. Snap-On. Electric. Tools.
@@kevg1915 Honest question. How are they beasts? Its super compact! - Not really. The head is. The tool handle is large. Its got high torque! - Its average. There are ratchets that are more capable for torque. Its fast! - Again, its average. It keeps up with competition. Nothing special. Solid warranty and repair! - No different from the competition. My last Snap-On electric tool took 2 months to be repaired. I asked to upgrade, was given the product catalog and told to buy a new tool. The price is good! - Consider this. It costs 5-20% more to make a product in the US. Snap on ratchet is $425 (Tool Only). Milwaukee INSIDER is $300 (Tool AND Sockets). Add 20% to $300. The INSIDER would cost ROUGHLY $360 with Sockets.
I bought the 1/2 inch ct950 when they 1st came out got a good deal on it and within the 1st year of using it broke 3 anvils and had electrical issues with it got it repaired under warranty again and then sold it off and got the milwaukee never had any issues with that i also have both the milwaukee stubbys and they are brilliant never will i buy snap on electrical tools they are junk but the hand tools are good thats about all I'd buy from them good video 👍🏼
@@bruins871I prefer m18. Better battery life and compatibility with larger more powerful tools and batteries. I love m12 too, but the batteries don’t last nearly as long.
@@Icepressa It tells me you don’t know anything. An m18 12.0 high output battery has 216 watt hours (total energy contained) in it. An m12 5.0 high output battery has only 60 watt hours in it. The m18 12.0 contains over 3.5x as much energy as an m12 5.0 high output. You don’t have a clue.
I can't keep up, financially. I got a Harbor Freight Earthquake air impact w/750 ft. lbs. This compact Milwaukee is knockin' on the door- no compressor needed!
I used to be a big air tool guy because I work on semi trucks and 50 foot long box trailers but I started going towards Milwaukee and honestly never looked back. I rarely come across something that they don’t have the power to knock off and if I do I usually have to just cut it off with a torch. No more dealing with air lines either it’s nice. Just a bit pricy but the weight difference is a plus to
I think we are now at the point where these 3/8 drive impacts will start wrecking 3/8 drive sockets. Love the power but wow, that is just ludicrous! Again thank you for all the work and testing that goes into these videos 😉
Milwaukee power tools are miles ahead on Snap on but for hand tools snap on is top notch. The Milwaukee kit 2562-22 will be a Christmas gift from me to me this year 😆🎁🎅🦌
In regards to fairness with wattage, let’s not forget that the 18v is a true functioning nominal voltage whereas the 12v is only that fresh of the charger. Running it’s gonna be closer to 10.8v.
Noticed at the end of the video that it looks like you have a blinking flex battery in the background. I could be wrong but the same thing happened to me and I had to warranty it. Fantastic video as always!
snap on just needs to give up... I would go Milwaukee all the way. I started with their screwdriver and getting slowly invested as tools are needed. This looks interesting but for my needs, the Kobalt 24v 3/8 and 1/2 that I got for $59 each are enough for me. I would recommend anyone who finds them at Lowes to pick them up as they are pretty good. Had to remove air bag suspension on my Saab 9-7x (Trailblazer clone) and replace with soil springs that the Kobalt impacts really helped. If I ever need more, I am definitely picking this one up. Thanks for the videos.
I just watched a comparison by a snap on dealer at a tool show boot between these 2 stubby's and the snap on won easily. So, I had to come here for an independent review. Great video
The Snap On looks so much larger. I’m in the M12 line but also in DeWalt, and already have the DCF921 and 923 and absolutely love them. According to your test of those drivers, the new Stubby looks like it is even more powerful by around 50-100lbs depending on battery’s. I do prefer the handle on DeWalt tools vs M12.
I have put my gen2 stubby through its paces and it handles 90 percent of what I do. My forarms and back are happy that im not using the IR hi torque while holding uncomfortable positions on a creeper. So far I have done a full LS teardown and the gen 2 did everything except main bearing caps and crank bolt. E46 transmisson swap it did okay but with a 24" extension I had to use the high torque on a few of the more stubborn bellhousing bolts. The m12 pulled the exhaust, driveshaft, and cutch happily.
I knew the 9038 was gonna be a decent tool. It doesn't have to be the strongest to be a good tool for me, and price isn't a big deal either. My Snap On man is GREAT and gives really good deals consistently. I still love my milwaukee for at home use!
Again why I go with Milwaukee. It matches all my contractors tools too. All interchangeable. Snap-on is still behind on their game. This was a good run fir them, but they just got smeared by a 12volt...hahaha
@@ianjay4596 actually, I believe I’ve seen videos saying the 3/8” gen 1 is stronger than the 1/2”. I have both. That’s why I was wondering if the same applied for the gen2 units.
just got a question for ya were u were testing snap on it struggled to take off 400 but when u went to 500 it got it in like 7 less seconds whats up with that????
double the price, 66% more voltage, cheaply made and also made in china, who in their right mind would buy snap-on in 2024. If you're worried about longevity, ridgid has a sale right now for 179 for a 3/8 and 1/2 sub compact impact wrenches and a battery/charger. Of course it comes with the lifetime service agreement for everything, including battery. Per STR's own testing, they came close to this level of breakaway torque.
Exceedingly common SnapOn L. 12V vs 18V, 1.5x heavier, abysmal 2 year warranty. Absolutely pitiful battery platform with no real tool selection. Anyone who wants to accomplish anything needs a cordless tool platform worth investing in. If you have what? 30-some tools your platform is a dead end in 2024. And you get to throw a ton of money at pure mediocrity. Then you get to throw even more at it when it's breaking at month 27. And that rebuild will likely cost as much as an entire tool with a 3-5 year warranty from an actual respectable cordless power tool manufacturer.
If they were smart they would team up with a major tool company and have them rebrand them or at least make them in the same color options. That is the only thing good about them, they come in multiple colors. Sad thing is the fanboys will always buy overpriced tools from them.
Serious let down for me on the m12 i returned it. 4.0ah full charge it wouldnt break 90ftlb lugs on my acura. 1/2” too and the mode switch is stupid. My old m18 compact 1/2 rated for 210ftlbs didnt hesitate.
Im not convinced the 3/8 drive is stronger than the 1/2. Socket weight plays a roll and youre using a 1/2 drive socket with an adapter welded on to it. Thats a decent amount of extra weight. I wanna see the same size sockets but in their own drives against each other
Snap on fan boys real quiet after this. Yet when that snap on "stubby" came out they wouldnt STFU about how it better than a 5+ year old 12 volt Milwaukee for 4x the price and a shit warranty. Cant wait for a new m18 stubby and see how much power they squeeze out of it with a new motor
performance is one thing, quality, longevity and smoothness are another. one thing these kinds of tests dont look at is how they are made. cheap tools fail fast. that price adds up quick.
there is something to be said for made in usa. pretty much everything but the electronics on that are made in the us. vs china for the milwaukee. price is still high though.
Milwaukee warranty is not based on cycles like snap-on. It's 2 years on 2.0 and smaller and 3 years on 3.0 and bigger. Milwaukee actually stands behind there warranty and claims better than 1500 charge cycles. Unlike snap-on runs out 1000 no matter how long you had the tool. Then you at the mercy of the truck dealer if they warranty it. With Milwaukee is actually dated coded and ship it to them they fix or replace no questions asked
@@Ed_StuckeyMilwaukee stands behind there stuff. People I worked with bought DeWalt they don't and Ridgid lifetime warranty is joke. They wouldn't even register my tools because I didn't have a confirmation number. Told me to send in my receipt and they would decide. I said I would decide I would buy Milwaukee a company actually stands behind there stuff.
I find it crazy how companies can call a tool compact when it still has a huge battery footprint. At a certain point it doesn’t matter how compact the tool is, if it has a giant brick of a battery on the bottom then it’s pointless.
Milwaukee is 12V, not 18V, half the price, smaller & lighter and oh, more powerful 🤔 Not to mention the M12 platform has a much larger variety of tools then the Snap on 18V. What does snap on even offer
Snap-On should be ashamed of themselves. They need to stick to making hand tools. I can get a Milwaukee 2967 kit with one 5.0 battery, charger, protective boot, 6.0 Forge battery+ Gen 2 stubby kit for $937.99 before any coupons or specials and Snap-On wants $922 for this kit. Now imagine the stubby being able to use an 18v battery. Milwaukee > Snap-On
I can never understand how ppl perform tests, then claim they are both comparable straight to your face. The Power, for the size, FOR THE PRICE, For the warranty. the level of dishonesty is disgusting, have some shame👎
Let's not forget the last gen m12 did 500 ft-lbs for Tim, so is the new one really more than double as Milwaukee says? th-cam.com/video/MfVBFFA6Seg/w-d-xo.html
im not saying anyone should buy the snap on now but there is a clear difference on when they were designed. i doubt any mechanic that bought the snap on and has made money with it as a daily use tool regrets it. and yea the is milwaukee better but if you already have something that has long paid itself off i doubt anyone is gonna switch. would be a great impact for someone that is starting out and doesnt have a 3/8 cordless or good pneumatic yet. i love my milwaukee's but i do really wish they just had the compact and big battery as options the one thing i think everyone has to agree with snap on with is 1 battery and forget about it is way better than which battery do i need to make this tool do what it claims. i have tons of milwaukee,snap on,matco and dewalt but what keeps stopping me from buying the new milwaukee tools is you have to buy the new battery with it. if i want the new snap on tool and i already have a kit from before im golden to just buy the tool. but if i want the new high torque i need the new forge battery if i want it to do what it claims. if i want the new stubby i need the new high output battery and it never ends. either way great review as always
Miwaulkee is obviously the better bargain with better performance then Snaps. I guess theres no need to bring out the real contenders like Makita and DeWalt as those are what normal consumers buy. And real consumers not fanbois know its starts with Makita for reliabilty and fights the other two in all other categories losing in most of them even when reliabilty matters most.
The M12 isn’t really 12v, lust as 20V tools aren’t really 20v, for exactly the same reason. The cells are nominal 3.6v/3.7v each, the M12 uses 3 in series for 10.8v-11.1v, 18v-20v tools use 5 in series for 18-18.5v. Those cells when fully charged and under low-load, will measure ~4v, but they can’t deliver that under any significant load. So, if you measure the voltage with no load, sure, you’ll see 12v or 20v, but you won’t see that under load. That means the WHr capacity of the M12 5v is 54-55WHr, not 60WHr
LOL I like Snap-On ratchets and wrenches and maybe their screwdrivers. Everything else they peddle, especially the power tools, are overpriced and underwhelming. Really though the only reason for Snap-On to exist would be their combo wrench sets. Literally everything else is better purchased from other tool makers.
I am now convinced to never spend my money on the overpriced snap on tools of all kind. I’ll stick with my old-school American made craftsman and just find them on eBay. Dear leaders of snap on bring this to your president and look how absolutely stupid you look. If I were y’all, I’d drop this line or name it something else.
Not gonna lie, that snap on is a fat ass stubby. Milwaukee is a compact stubby. Snappy is bottom heavy lol. The rest has been normal, milwaukee has been better for years.
I WILL DEFINITELY WAIT ,,,,,,,,,,,,, ON THE TORQUE TEST CHANNEL BEFORE I DECIDE TO BUY . YOUR WHOLE TESTING PROCESS SEEMS MORE SEAT OF THE PANTS . I REALLY ONLY WATCH THIS CHANNEL JUST TO SEE THE NEW TOOLS FIRST . THANKS THOUGH !!!
We love the guys over at TTC, and they feel the same. You have to understand, when testing torque on impact wrenches, it's not an exact science. We're using nuts and bolts, torqued with a very high precision instrument in a repeated manner to achieve quantitative and qualitative results. TTC is using a hydraulic method and they math their way into a torque number. Neither method is faulty or negligent, but neither method is exact. They will tell you the same thing. Thanks for watching.
I think your criticism of the button on the snap on is well deserved.
When I pay a premium price, I expect them to not save a few pennies on things like those buttons.
I know that Snap On makes fewer tools, and it’s expensive to make things in low volume. But if they can’t make a better tool, they really shouldn’t even bother IMHO.
I agree
The M12 STUBBY GEN 2 is HALF PRICE AND SHOULD SNAP UP SNAP ON
Don't forget that it is way lighter and smaller
Owned this snap on impact wrench for a while and loved it. I also recently bought the m12 gen2 stubby. I then traded back my snap on impact because the Milwaukee dominated it in every way. Love the gen 2 stubby. It’s my go to impact wrench. Love the videos! Thanks for all the hard work!
Milwaukee's really pushing that "look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power, its right to pity them" energy ...
I love my gen 1 stubby, going to get this one as soon as Christmas comes around with the sales. I've got every milwaukee impact all the way up to the 1" d handle, love all of them.
Snap-on really should stick to just hand tools. Their hand tools have always been top notch, their power tools are for fan boys, overpriced, under powered and a ( I dont back it sorry warranty). So many better options and it doesn't have to be Milwaukee either.
Have you seen snap on electric ratchets? they r beasts
@@kevg1915 Honest question. How are they beasts?
+ Its super compact. - Not really. The head is. The tool body sitting 1 inch below is quite large.
+ Its got high torque. - Its average. There are ratchets that are more capable for torque.
+ Its fast. - Again, its average. It keeps up with competition. Nothing special.
+ Solid warranty and repair. - No different from the competition. My last Snap-On electric tool took 2 months to be repaired. I asked to upgrade, was given the product catalog and told to buy a new tool.
+ The price is good. - Think about it. It costs 5-20% more to make a product in the US.
Snap on CTR861ADB is $425 (Tool Only). Milwaukee INSIDER is $300 (Tool AND Sockets).
Add 20% to $300. The INSIDER would cost ROUGHLY $360 with Sockets.
Why. Do. People. Keep. Defending. Snap-On. Electric. Tools.
@@kevg1915 Honest question. How are they beasts?
. Its super compact. - Not really. The head is. The tool body sitting 1 inch below is quite large.
. Its got high torque. - Its average. There are ratchets that are more capable for torque.
. Its fast. - Again, its average. It keeps up with competition. Nothing special.
. Solid warranty and repair. - No different from the competition. My last Snap-On electric tool took 2 months to be repaired. I asked to upgrade, was given the product catalog and told to buy a new tool.
. The price is good. - Think about it. It costs 5-20% more to make a product in the US.
Snap on CTR861ADB is $425 (Tool Only). Milwaukee INSIDER is $300 (Tool AND Sockets).
Add 20% to $300. The INSIDER would cost ROUGHLY $360 with Sockets.
Why. Do. People. Keep. Defending. Snap-On. Electric. Tools.
@@kevg1915 Honest question. How are they beasts?
Its super compact! Not really. The head is. The tool handle is large.
Its got high torque! Its average. There are ratchets that are more capable for torque.
Its fast. Again, its average! It keeps up with competition. Nothing special.
Solid warranty and repair! - No different from the competition. My last Snap-On electric tool took 2 months to be repaired. I asked to upgrade, was given the product catalog and told to buy a new tool.
The price is good! - Consider this. It costs 5-20% more to make a product in the US.
Snap on ratchet is $425 (Tool Only). Milwaukee INSIDER is $300 (Tool AND Sockets).
Add 20% to $300. The INSIDER would cost ROUGHLY $360 with Sockets.
Why. Do. People. Keep. Defending. Snap-On. Electric. Tools.
@@kevg1915 Honest question. How are they beasts?
Its super compact! - Not really. The head is. The tool handle is large.
Its got high torque! - Its average. There are ratchets that are more capable for torque.
Its fast! - Again, its average. It keeps up with competition. Nothing special.
Solid warranty and repair! - No different from the competition. My last Snap-On electric tool took 2 months to be repaired. I asked to upgrade, was given the product catalog and told to buy a new tool.
The price is good! - Consider this. It costs 5-20% more to make a product in the US.
Snap on ratchet is $425 (Tool Only). Milwaukee INSIDER is $300 (Tool AND Sockets).
Add 20% to $300. The INSIDER would cost ROUGHLY $360 with Sockets.
HECK Buy the new GEN 2 STUBBY and have enough LEFT OVER to Buy the 2967 with a 6 AMP FORGE BATTERY
2967 is massive next to a stubby
@@smurfeco2.358 he means you can buy both the 2967 and the stubby for the price of a snap on tool lol
@Ma77riK oh yeah I read that wrong my bad . 😂
Boom 💥 !
Love my 2967 !!! I got the kit with it, the 3/8" with two 5.0 batteries plus charger and it didn't even cost a third what the snap-on kit cost.
I bought the 1/2 inch ct950 when they 1st came out got a good deal on it and within the 1st year of using it broke 3 anvils and had electrical issues with it got it repaired under warranty again and then sold it off and got the milwaukee never had any issues with that i also have both the milwaukee stubbys and they are brilliant never will i buy snap on electrical tools they are junk but the hand tools are good thats about all I'd buy from them good video 👍🏼
That snap on is the size of a mid torque
Do you think the mid torque is obsolete with this stubby
No it's not
@@bruins871I prefer m18. Better battery life and compatibility with larger more powerful tools and batteries. I love m12 too, but the batteries don’t last nearly as long.
@@cliffordmontana4562 lol really shows that you dont know anything about 18650 cells, a m18 is made out of the same stuff 🤣
@@Icepressa It tells me you don’t know anything. An m18 12.0 high output battery has 216 watt hours (total energy contained) in it. An m12 5.0 high output battery has only 60 watt hours in it. The m18 12.0 contains over 3.5x as much energy as an m12 5.0 high output. You don’t have a clue.
I can't keep up, financially. I got a Harbor Freight Earthquake air impact w/750 ft. lbs. This compact Milwaukee is knockin' on the door- no compressor needed!
I used to be a big air tool guy because I work on semi trucks and 50 foot long box trailers but I started going towards Milwaukee and honestly never looked back. I rarely come across something that they don’t have the power to knock off and if I do I usually have to just cut it off with a torch. No more dealing with air lines either it’s nice. Just a bit pricy but the weight difference is a plus to
I think we are now at the point where these 3/8 drive impacts will start wrecking 3/8 drive sockets. Love the power but wow, that is just ludicrous! Again thank you for all the work and testing that goes into these videos 😉
Milwaukee power tools are miles ahead on Snap on but for hand tools snap on is top notch. The Milwaukee kit 2562-22 will be a Christmas gift from me to me this year 😆🎁🎅🦌
In regards to fairness with wattage, let’s not forget that the 18v is a true functioning nominal voltage whereas the 12v is only that fresh of the charger. Running it’s gonna be closer to 10.8v.
Noticed at the end of the video that it looks like you have a blinking flex battery in the background. I could be wrong but the same thing happened to me and I had to warranty it. Fantastic video as always!
Two for the price of one Snap-on 🤑💪
snap on just needs to give up... I would go Milwaukee all the way. I started with their screwdriver and getting slowly invested as tools are needed. This looks interesting but for my needs, the Kobalt 24v 3/8 and 1/2 that I got for $59 each are enough for me. I would recommend anyone who finds them at Lowes to pick them up as they are pretty good. Had to remove air bag suspension on my Saab 9-7x (Trailblazer clone) and replace with soil springs that the Kobalt impacts really helped. If I ever need more, I am definitely picking this one up. Thanks for the videos.
I just watched a comparison by a snap on dealer at a tool show boot between these 2 stubby's and the snap on won easily. So, I had to come here for an independent review. Great video
The Snap On looks so much larger. I’m in the M12 line but also in DeWalt, and already have the DCF921 and 923 and absolutely love them. According to your test of those drivers, the new Stubby looks like it is even more powerful by around 50-100lbs depending on battery’s. I do prefer the handle on DeWalt tools vs M12.
Stick with dewalt
Why was your comment highlighted as report??
Nothing wrong with your comment
Yt needs to be better!!
The OG Stubby for the WIN….lol! Great head to head!
I have put my gen2 stubby through its paces and it handles 90 percent of what I do. My forarms and back are happy that im not using the IR hi torque while holding uncomfortable positions on a creeper. So far I have done a full LS teardown and the gen 2 did everything except main bearing caps and crank bolt. E46 transmisson swap it did okay but with a 24" extension I had to use the high torque on a few of the more stubborn bellhousing bolts. The m12 pulled the exhaust, driveshaft, and cutch happily.
The Snap On is a midsized masquerading as stubby. It looks huge next to the M12.
I knew the 9038 was gonna be a decent tool. It doesn't have to be the strongest to be a good tool for me, and price isn't a big deal either. My Snap On man is GREAT and gives really good deals consistently. I still love my milwaukee for at home use!
Yes, sir! Milwaukee all the way 🙌
You didn’t mention how you had to swap from the 4.0 battery on the Milwaukee to the 5.0 to do the higher tests
Again why I go with Milwaukee. It matches all my contractors tools too. All interchangeable. Snap-on is still behind on their game. This was a good run fir them, but they just got smeared by a 12volt...hahaha
I need that new Milwaukee stubby in my life. Are the 1/2” and 3/8” drives any stronger than the other in your testing?
On the first gen, the half inch is slightly stronger due to the anvil being slightly bigger
@@ianjay4596 actually, I believe I’ve seen videos saying the 3/8” gen 1 is stronger than the 1/2”. I have both. That’s why I was wondering if the same applied for the gen2 units.
@@jjrock5 maybe I'm thinking of the 18v impact driver Frankenstein'd to an 3/8 anvil lol
Dewalt got 2 months to respond 😂
Have they responded yet 😂
just got a question for ya were u were testing snap on it struggled to take off 400 but when u went to 500 it got it in like 7 less seconds whats up with that????
I love my gen1 and use it 86% of the time
double the price, 66% more voltage, cheaply made and also made in china, who in their right mind would buy snap-on in 2024. If you're worried about longevity, ridgid has a sale right now for 179 for a 3/8 and 1/2 sub compact impact wrenches and a battery/charger. Of course it comes with the lifetime service agreement for everything, including battery. Per STR's own testing, they came close to this level of breakaway torque.
Whoever u like...this is a win win for all of us. The original stubby is awesome and it's my go to all of yhebtime
Why does that SnapOn tool look like a tool from temu.
Kobalt 24v has a new stubby in 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 in sizes. Id be interested if you could test those.
Exceedingly common SnapOn L.
12V vs 18V, 1.5x heavier, abysmal 2 year warranty. Absolutely pitiful battery platform with no real tool selection. Anyone who wants to accomplish anything needs a cordless tool platform worth investing in. If you have what? 30-some tools your platform is a dead end in 2024.
And you get to throw a ton of money at pure mediocrity. Then you get to throw even more at it when it's breaking at month 27. And that rebuild will likely cost as much as an entire tool with a 3-5 year warranty from an actual respectable cordless power tool manufacturer.
If they were smart they would team up with a major tool company and have them rebrand them or at least make them in the same color options. That is the only thing good about them, they come in multiple colors. Sad thing is the fanboys will always buy overpriced tools from them.
You can't use a 3/8 to 1/2 adapter and expect it to have the max breakaway torque.
That Milwaukee ain't keepin' up with the Sharpie!
I don't think I ever see you guys review worx Impact or driver can you do one I would like to see how it stalk up to the test
I just found my Christmas present 🎁 thanks boss
Serious let down for me on the m12 i returned it. 4.0ah full charge it wouldnt break 90ftlb lugs on my acura. 1/2” too and the mode switch is stupid.
My old m18 compact 1/2 rated for 210ftlbs didnt hesitate.
The 4.0 will easily break away 300+. Maybe yours was defective. Should have just swapped it out.
Hi can you please review the makita 3/4 xgt impact wrench, thanks 😊
I’m anxious to see the Milwaukee battery life
Im not convinced the 3/8 drive is stronger than the 1/2. Socket weight plays a roll and youre using a 1/2 drive socket with an adapter welded on to it. Thats a decent amount of extra weight. I wanna see the same size sockets but in their own drives against each other
What adapter is being used on the Milwaukee gen 2 for use on the 1/2 socket?
Snap on fan boys real quiet after this. Yet when that snap on "stubby" came out they wouldnt STFU about how it better than a 5+ year old 12 volt Milwaukee for 4x the price and a shit warranty. Cant wait for a new m18 stubby and see how much power they squeeze out of it with a new motor
Didnt the Hercules impact driver get to 500lbs too? Makes that Snap-On look even more like a piece of crap.
performance is one thing, quality, longevity and smoothness are another. one thing these kinds of tests dont look at is how they are made. cheap tools fail fast. that price adds up quick.
The only good thing about snap on is Manny
Snap on powertools aint cuttin it. All you get is cool color choices lmao.
LET'S GO TJ 🏁
Sooo should I get the milwaukee in a 3/8 or 1/2? I just work on my old chevy truck.
I’d say 3/8 because it’s more common and just get an impact rated 3/8 to 1/2 adapter for the bigger sockets which you’ll rarely need
We see what's hanging in your box😉😁
Keeping my old stubbys, but buying the new ones if i need more power lol
I really don’t care about the Snap-On, I want to know how big a step the Gen2 Stubby is vs the Gen1.
Gen 1 250 breakaway vs gen 2 550 breakaway
@@cartharax4308 is that the specification or test results? The Gen2 3/8 tested at 600 ft-lbs, not 550.
@@superspeeder true true my bad
You knew not to that crap up against Dewalt , not even close
M12 Milwaukee studdy is faster then the snap on for all tests in my opinion 12:16 @Shop Tool Reviews
The only thing I hate about this video is the fact that Strap-On still has a fan base
there is something to be said for made in usa. pretty much everything but the electronics on that are made in the us. vs china for the milwaukee. price is still high though.
Milwaukee warranty is not based on cycles like snap-on. It's 2 years on 2.0 and smaller and 3 years on 3.0 and bigger. Milwaukee actually stands behind there warranty and claims better than 1500 charge cycles. Unlike snap-on runs out 1000 no matter how long you had the tool. Then you at the mercy of the truck dealer if they warranty it. With Milwaukee is actually dated coded and ship it to them they fix or replace no questions asked
I had a Milwaukee 12v 4Ah that was only a few days away from the end of warranty. I shipped it in and got a new battery back no question asked.
@@Ed_StuckeyMilwaukee stands behind there stuff. People I worked with bought DeWalt they don't and Ridgid lifetime warranty is joke. They wouldn't even register my tools because I didn't have a confirmation number. Told me to send in my receipt and they would decide. I said I would decide I would buy Milwaukee a company actually stands behind there stuff.
Had a few warranties with Milwaukee , they don't dick around.
In some cases just give you a whole new tool .
Sorry Snap-on fan boys milwaukee for the win once again 😢😅
12:10moment of silence for snap on 🎩
How the m18 stubby compare?
That's what he should be comparing it against.
I find it crazy how companies can call a tool compact when it still has a huge battery footprint. At a certain point it doesn’t matter how compact the tool is, if it has a giant brick of a battery on the bottom then it’s pointless.
Milwaukee for the win
Whether they're 12 vs 18 doesn't matter. The snap on only has one battery oeriod5. Doesn't need 5 different types like milwaukee..
By the m12
But do u really want a Milwaukee in ur hand or a snap on. It’s like having gucci vs sketchers
I don’t get it why mediocre Snap-On products are so much more expensive?
The new milwaukee is a beast but I think the switch button is stupid, they should of left it
Milwaukee is 12V, not 18V, half the price, smaller & lighter and oh, more powerful 🤔 Not to mention the M12 platform has a much larger variety of tools then the Snap on 18V. What does snap on even offer
I can’t even call it close. Milwaukee just slaps snappys ass when it comes to power tools. Hand tools is another story.
About the third time the battery falls out on the milwaukee you'll wish you had got the Snap On
You didn't watch the video at all, did you? Thanks for watching.
Snap-On should be ashamed of themselves. They need to stick to making hand tools. I can get a Milwaukee 2967 kit with one 5.0 battery, charger, protective boot, 6.0 Forge battery+ Gen 2 stubby kit for $937.99 before any coupons or specials and Snap-On wants $922 for this kit. Now imagine the stubby being able to use an 18v battery.
Milwaukee > Snap-On
I can never understand how ppl perform tests, then claim they are both comparable straight to your face. The Power, for the size, FOR THE PRICE, For the warranty. the level of dishonesty is disgusting, have some shame👎
your camera is not focus
Almost $1k for the Snap-on! 🤦♂️
Seriously? ... Snap on feels like a scam
@@justauser Yes, all of the tool trucks are so over priced for no reason.
Let's not forget the last gen m12 did 500 ft-lbs for Tim, so is the new one really more than double as Milwaukee says? th-cam.com/video/MfVBFFA6Seg/w-d-xo.html
im not saying anyone should buy the snap on now but there is a clear difference on when they were designed. i doubt any mechanic that bought the snap on and has made money with it as a daily use tool regrets it. and yea the is milwaukee better but if you already have something that has long paid itself off i doubt anyone is gonna switch. would be a great impact for someone that is starting out and doesnt have a 3/8 cordless or good pneumatic yet. i love my milwaukee's but i do really wish they just had the compact and big battery as options the one thing i think everyone has to agree with snap on with is 1 battery and forget about it is way better than which battery do i need to make this tool do what it claims. i have tons of milwaukee,snap on,matco and dewalt but what keeps stopping me from buying the new milwaukee tools is you have to buy the new battery with it. if i want the new snap on tool and i already have a kit from before im golden to just buy the tool. but if i want the new high torque i need the new forge battery if i want it to do what it claims. if i want the new stubby i need the new high output battery and it never ends. either way great review as always
What's with a two year warranty? Why not stick to your lifetime/tool truck service that all the mechanics keep bragging about?
None of their power tools have a lifetime warranty, just the hand tools. Thanks for watching.
I think snapon loses a couple points for having too bulky of the battery.
Snap-on looks like a mid torque compared to the Milwaukee
Unless you’re a little OCD and want all your tools to be snap on I don’t see why you would buy snap on over Milwaukee. At least with this tool.
The snap on is way over priced and doesn't even have tri led. What a scam.
Miwaulkee is obviously the better bargain with better performance then Snaps. I guess theres no need to bring out the real contenders like Makita and DeWalt as those are what normal consumers buy. And real consumers not fanbois know its starts with Makita for reliabilty and fights the other two in all other categories losing in most of them even when reliabilty matters most.
The M12 isn’t really 12v, lust as 20V tools aren’t really 20v, for exactly the same reason. The cells are nominal 3.6v/3.7v each, the M12 uses 3 in series for 10.8v-11.1v, 18v-20v tools use 5 in series for 18-18.5v. Those cells when fully charged and under low-load, will measure ~4v, but they can’t deliver that under any significant load. So, if you measure the voltage with no load, sure, you’ll see 12v or 20v, but you won’t see that under load.
That means the WHr capacity of the M12 5v is 54-55WHr, not 60WHr
Milwaukee is better snap on is too beefy with the battery
LOL I like Snap-On ratchets and wrenches and maybe their screwdrivers. Everything else they peddle, especially the power tools, are overpriced and underwhelming. Really though the only reason for Snap-On to exist would be their combo wrench sets. Literally everything else is better purchased from other tool makers.
Milwaukee over crap on any day
Let me have the m12 stubby gen 2 pls you have plenty
Snap on is a joke. They screw people. I believe in paying for quality but then there is junk being sold way higher then other quality tools
I am now convinced to never spend my money on the overpriced snap on tools of all kind. I’ll stick with my old-school American made craftsman and just find them on eBay. Dear leaders of snap on bring this to your president and look how absolutely stupid you look. If I were y’all, I’d drop this line or name it something else.
Not gonna lie, that snap on is a fat ass stubby. Milwaukee is a compact stubby. Snappy is bottom heavy lol. The rest has been normal, milwaukee has been better for years.
I WILL DEFINITELY WAIT ,,,,,,,,,,,,, ON THE TORQUE TEST CHANNEL BEFORE I DECIDE TO BUY . YOUR WHOLE TESTING PROCESS SEEMS MORE SEAT OF THE PANTS . I REALLY ONLY WATCH THIS CHANNEL JUST TO SEE THE NEW TOOLS FIRST . THANKS THOUGH !!!
We love the guys over at TTC, and they feel the same. You have to understand, when testing torque on impact wrenches, it's not an exact science. We're using nuts and bolts, torqued with a very high precision instrument in a repeated manner to achieve quantitative and qualitative results. TTC is using a hydraulic method and they math their way into a torque number. Neither method is faulty or negligent, but neither method is exact. They will tell you the same thing. Thanks for watching.
sir im i ok or do i have autism for watching power tools 1v1?
Snap on power tools are ugly they remind me of those old clunky cordless 18 volt dewalt drills that are like 8 pounds
wgf? one over priced fanboi glitter ornament versus another.... yaawwwnnn... smFh
Ill stay with my 9038, no need to change for me
Ya you need to use it for 200 years to get your money’s worth
Lol, that's what a bad decision sounds like...
@jascospeed how's that a bad decision? Snap ons batteries don't fall apart like milwaukees batteries
crap on
There is an m18 stubby
Crazy thought Snap 🫰 would win. Glad I just got the Milwaukee