All the other moms will be jelly - Lexus RZ450e
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The Lexus RZ450e sure is pretty, but does it have the power and range people expect from their EVs? Alex is here to check out the ultimate mom vehicle to see if you get enough of the benefits of an EV or if this SUV is more just for looks.
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0:00 Lexus made this car look goooooooood
0:40 Exterior impressions
4:00 Interior impressions
6:20 Reverse go beeeeep
6:52 Sponsor - Eight Sleep!
7:20 Driving impressions
10:15 Speakers
11:10 Lexus infotainment
14:00 Sending it through corners
15:00 Overall thoughts
16:02 Pricing
16:56 Outro - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Also, if you’re gonna keep the non-aero traditional looking door handles, why not make them function like normal door handles? Especially if you’re going to build a mini normal latch into the handle anyways?
My guess, all cars have power locks anyway, so it's less tooling cost to run a wire connected to a switch.
@@Mr.Morden if my car doesnt have a mechanical way to open the door if it goes completely flat or has a failure, it's nothing more than an aluminum can for the recycle bin. mechanical handle please.
@@ghomerhust I'd hope they have a volt meter on the battery.
The electric doors allow them to link it to the Blind spot monitoring and prevent you opening the door in front of a cyclist, whether you think that's a good idea or not
I'd rather have parking sensors and normal door handles than this travesty of a SKU. It only exists to get you in the door and then sell you the 80k version. So I'd actually just get the Toyota version thanks. When they make a decent EV that is
Honestly, foregoing the frunk for more legroom is a pretty cool idea, especially for things like Stow n' Go/Collapse-able seats
Yeah, I'm a big fan of this. I'm taller than Alex so I can usually disregard electric cars based on the legroom.
@@2belowfreezing my brother is 6'3", so he's in the same camp as you in terms of being taller than the typical EV height range. I definitely am down for more EVs switching over to height over frunks.
Additionally, it could make the electronics more accessible for service.
@@AndrijaKrstic True.
Alex' taste in cars is highly peculiar.
That's one way to say terrible lol
I mean tbf, I think he might be on to something here. He said it at the start of the video. The dudes at the car meet might scoff at him, but he won't even have enough seats to fit all the rich white moms that want a ride.
Terrible is an understatement. Low range. Slow charging. No regenerative braking, which also means changing brake pads more since that car will be HEAVY. Poor drive feel. To top everything off the only way they recommend it is if you get the one priced at about 63k?
I’m not sure how this review didn’t just end with “bad value, don’t buy.”
that grille? it does not look good.
@@bernRA at least it doesnt look like a 1980s Kirby vacuum cleaner like the gas lexus's do these days. that wedge grill is terrible
Caught just the first few minutes and immediately was shocked by the somewhat brave statement the front looks good. It looks like a 3D printer tutorial gone haywire.
Yeah I certainly wouldn't say it looks good, but it does look better than NORMAL Lexus grills in the same style at least.
I disagree, I like it
it may seem obvious and kind of over mentioned but
so reminiscent of LFA's rear... in this white colour for now anyway
It's an absolute improvement over old Lexus grills
this is what my printer made after i got out the shower :C
So refreshing to hear an honest unrestrained review. Whether Lexus will ever provide access to their press fleet again - who knows?
It's surprising to hear that Lexus is missing the mark in so many categories. There was a time when that badge meant you could assume it was either the best in its segment or very nearly so.
That was never the case? They always meant luxury and reliability but in terms of performance and tech, they often lagged behind German competitors with notable exceptions.
Lexus is Toyota
And toyota is 10 years behind in EV technology. Did you really think that SUV would be any good?
@@WhatisaLee Not true. The LS400 and LS430 literally were on par with their german competitors.
@@Orangematz “with notable exceptions”. If pinups were still a thing, I would have an LFA & LC500 on a wall. Even modern exceptions exist.
@@WhatisaLee Lexus’ customer base was initially drawn entirely from people fed up with arrogant service people at Audi, BMW, and Mercedes dealerships telling them the car was perfect and the fault was with them. The LS400 and SC400 are widely recognized as the best, or most, over engineered cars ever built.
Lexus started off very strong. Unquestionably they did make some mistakes leading to lower quality with some models. But nothing as drastic as the rolling piles of electronic woe from the Fatherland.
The big three Teutonic builders are an okay choice while under warranty. But their unreliability coupled with horrendous repair costs is the primary reason they depreciate so rapidly. “Mechanically totalled” is a common term for beautiful but broken cars from Germany and very rarely applied to a Lexus.
Front looks like they forgot to turn on anti-aliasing
A laggy infotainment system immediately makes the whole car a no go.
I like the idea of a bigger trunk instead of frunk. Frunks are generally a frucked up idea IMO.
I like the idea of a frunk made for the charging cables. They easily get messy if its wet and/or muddy outside.
And the cool hiding spot under the floor of the trunk so many EVs comes with... You tell me how smart it is when you are going on a trip and the trunk is filled up with luggage...
@@Krydolph You won't be going on a trip to begin with with the range half that of a gas car.
@@corruptedpoison1 yeah the small battery size on this is really surprising considering the target audience. id have thought theyd go for a big chonker because as a "rolling chassis" it seems pretty comfy. long roadtrips would be nice in a car that feels like that. but you just cant. not really sure what lexus was thinking there
@@ghomerhust the target audience is for rich white moms and grandmas to scoot around town in. I know cause I work at a Lexus dealership. Lots of people buying these are getting to retirement age.
Not feeling the white paint. Anything else would look better
I'm so confused right now. I think this car looks absolutely HIDEOUS!
Those goofy door handles baffle me...all of the added complexity, none of the aero benefits. Brilliant.
They're already in the turbulent flow created by the mirrors, would need to be lower to see an aero benefit from flush handles.
@@troy4393 Um...yea...that's what I'm saying. They aren't flush, so no benefit, yet they still operate like a stupid electronic release...
@@rmp5s no, even if they were flush, there wouldn't be a significant benefit. The mirrors would have to be removed to see a benefit from flush handles.
@@troy4393 Assuming that is correct, that still kinda proves my point. lol
I’m still waiting for Acura to finally jump into the electric car space. A former friend had horror stories about them, but my family has gone through two that worked great.
acura made a sneak peek of the electric zdx type s, so it’s probably coming soon
Acura’s are dope, and almost Lexus reliable too. Definitely one of the few brands I actually consider worth purchasing, alongside, Lexus and Toyota. Porsche for sports cars.
Of course Acura = Honda as Lexus = Toyota. If they build something in the segment you’re shopping they’re virtually always the best choice.
Almost zero wide spread problems with either brand particularly compared to the competition. These are the cars you consider owning versus leasing and running away before the warranty runs out.
@@morstyrannis1951 acura only exists in north america. everywhere else in the world, it's simply honda. a honda integra type R is a real thing.
i feel like i see you all over youtube on any STEM related videos
Alex is always fun with this kinda not quite review, review. He's brutally honest for one thing and I always respect that.
I'm thinking that you guys could spin this off as a separate channel and include things like long term driving. I'm sure that Alex and a few of the engineers would love to run some long term driving on these cars and you could get into some nity grity as well.
LongCircuit?
Slow charging, small battery, low range. Yikes
Failed as a car lol
Not shocking, it's the Lexus version of the Toyota bz4x which is an absolute pile of trash. Toyota is amazing at engineering but they can't make tech to save their lives.
One of their first tries at the EV game, seems to be going well
the front of that looks pretty rough lol
Yeah. It looks awful
I'd rather have them do a fake grille instead of that
Thank goodness Lexus gave ShortCircuit/LMG the base model vehicle to review. At least I'll know what I'm getting if I'm able to afford this vehicle, because that's the only one I can afford.
EDIT: Why don't car makers put a matte display on vehicles now that we're using the infotainment screens every time we get into our vehicles? I have a matte screen protector on my phones and tablets, and I love that I don't have any reflections from the screen.
Look at the Hyundai Ioniq 5. I think you'll like that better and I'm pretty sure it's cheaper as well.
The whole reason for screens is to reduce part numbers and thus cost. Matte screens=more expensive=less margin. Maybe in the future they’ll follow apples lead. Extra $300 for matte glass
And the scrolling is like 3fps. Why? Just glue an ipad to the dash if you can't do the software properly yourself, car makers.
@@TheSirGoreaxeI agree, the Huyndai seems to be an objectively better EV, including it's luxury cousin GV60
I honestly don't care how a car looks, but that door handle situation. "Let's make a door handle that LOOKS like a reliable mechanical device, but make it reliant on flaky electronics! Also, let's add a BACKUP mechanical handle, but make it super flimsy and breakable! If this customer DOESN'T have three nonfunctional doors within three years, we've failed the brief!"
It's a lexus.. the electronics won't be flakey 😅
lexus dont have electrical problems....they have probably tested the handles for 30yrs of guaranteed reliability.......you must be used to american cars
OH MY GOD. An electric door handle with a MECHANIC BACKUP? Sign me the heck up!
Calling an armrest a wristrest at 4:17 is proper LTT stuff.
Love these ev reviews. Hope you keep doing them!
It looks like a new Prius ran into a giant panda really, really hard
Screw it, my prius will be going abroad tomorrow
(I don’t actually own a prius fyi)
Jason from Engineering Explained took Lexus' drive-by-wire car out for a spin and did a really good video on it. It's done well and properly with plenty of redundancy. I think I much prefer it over any traditional geared steering column which is always full of compromises.
Have you ever driven one before? The infinitis have them and the are horrible. I’ve had 3 with it. It’s by far the worst steering I’ve ever experienced in a car and I drive A LOT of cars.
@@mrsittingmongoose I haven't driven one before, but my understanding is that this is very different from what Infinity is doing.
This is steer-by-wire, but there are motors on both ends, so not only does the steering wheel (nearly) instantly turn the tires, but it also has motors on the steering wheel which provides force feedback allowing you to feel everything that you otherwise would through a real steering column. Again, I'd highly recommend checking out the Engineering Explained video on it.
@@AlexSchendel there is very obvious lag in the steering system compared to traditional methods, I personally wouldn’t be comfortable driving one
Apart from the lag with is straight up dangerous it means you have 4 very expensive motors in a very expensive steering box which will fail and need to he replaced, we're talking thousands of dollars, I'm just not sure if I'm willing to risk that myself.
That video itself like 10 years old.
It’s insane that they’re charging $60K+ USD for the top trim when a Model Y Performance costs $53K
Appreciate the conversions❤
Transition on 0-60 with other car was nicely done. Good editing job
I know many people who want this as an option. The only issue I see is the price.
Please put more research into the charging part of your car reviews. In almost every one of them you get the charging details wrong. For example the Ioniq 5 has a maximum charging speed of about 230 kw and the Lexus is definitely faster from 0-80 than 50 minutes.
You are doing great in all other parts so it would be nice seeing an improvement there.
To think this same company made the Lexus LFA
Love that you can push the cup holder bottom down for deeper bottles and up for small coffee cups!
It would be nice if there was some form of practical cargo capacity testing. Like can I fit a 75" tv
My Q50 had the first drive by wire system in the industry, I loved it
4:34 did you just ran out of breath for that moment ??? LOLLL
These videos just make want to see a dedicated LTT Car channel. These types of reviews is exactly what the car world needs. Maybe a new branch of Labs could do some real-world testing?
Linus… Transport tips?
I take car advices from my geek friends and computer tips from my garagist...
The front looks like it was designed by LEGO.
Idk about you, but the last lego set i built looked pretty cool
I can fit 2 pairs of my big ass aviators in my sunglasses holder in my Golf R MK7.5 , I always am in awe of how much room that thing has considering I'm 6'6". In 2018 when I was test driving vehicles I barely fit in most SUVs of the time.
Digging the ass of this car. Great vid Alex!
Wow, so strange having no glove box. The non electronic version of the RX has one ! Well, in the UK and Ireland version anyway…
I would also love to see a little bit more of a standard review. Covering the same topics each time in the same way.
Without trying to steer you in any particular direction carwow based in the UK does any amazing job of reviews !
Loving the car content 😄😄
I’m really enjoying the car reviews
Seriously - I’d love someone to explain why there is seemingly zero discussion about efficiency of EVs? Total range is fine but when you tie it to the total capacity of the battery, that’s like saying my dual tank Ford van has more range than my VW Golf. It’s a stupid meaningless comparison. Tell us how many km/100kw or whatever these things get.
Because range and charge speed is much more important for an EV than for combustion. Waiting 40mins in between on a 300km drive is just ridiculous
2:25 I love that a metric for electric cars is how easy it is to open the doors…
I have the basic model and mine have full 360 camera when I back up and whenever I feel like
Just want to say that i dont even care about the car
at 8 minutes onwards the scenery is soo beautiful im just looking at the background mountains it is beautiful
Thank you
Really appreciate the frank review. Most car “review” channels are too muted when it comes to large & influential OEM because if you’re too honest, OEM will stop inviting to the next press release and unlike tech like cellphone, purchasing one just for the review is out of question for most reviewers. This was kind of fine in ICE era because cars are established to the point that there’s no huge miss… but in EV, it’s a huge problem because most OEMs are still new at it.
I love your car reviews! It's just a shame to see such an expensive brand new car falling short of my 2012 Honda Civic in a lot of ways. I feel like new car buyers are getting significantly less car for their money nowadays.
They are. The average price of a new car in the US is $40k now. There are no cars at the $10k level, with manufacturers abandoning economy cars for higher-profit SUV's
@@arthuralfordYup. Nothing for the broke folks anymore
Title is hilarious because my mom drives an RX450h, it's like made for mothers
will it be better if i ditch my car infotainment system completely, bought a decent samsung tablet, plug in android auto, then just does everything with the tablet? plus, if the mountings are correct, you can have a dashboard camera too!
Absolutely fantastic Alex.
You can toss a Delta Pro and a 400w solar panel in the back, and charge it on a nice sunny day. :)
Isn't this just the bz4x? I haven't seen anything recent but what does the charging curve look like?
The front looks a lot like the back of the LFA
12:40 - that isn't an issue with Lexus. That is an issue with the Pixel 7 Pro, because my 7P does the exact same thing on my Q60.
@ShortCurcuit This video is missing from the Playlist "E-Vehicles". Could you add it?
Great review from Alex like always :)
6:22 my cheap 2018 Prius have this exact noise on reverse xD
a 2018 Prius in my country is like 50,000$ -,-
"I tried to put my falafel down there and it didn't really fit" is a sentence and a half
For those that head to the comments before the video, that part where Alex hit a passerby was pretty scary.
Dude I can't believe they left that in the video! Way too graphic.
Did you think it was deliberate? Running down Linus seems like an extreme way to climb the corporate ladder.
When does he hit a passerby?
Please reviews some HEV and PHEVs
They could have gone with a flush handle with a gap for opening. My truck has more flush handles.
For the glovebox I love than anyone can see what you have in the center console … great for low skill thief.
For the back sound of you see how many people forgot they are in reverse I understand … plus in Japan it’s an obligation.
Nice 2004 highlander with the center console "idea" 😂
Sausage casing feeling 9:40
A lot of soccer moms knew exactly what you meant by that. That's how they got this Lexus.
id love to see Alex rip the LC 500h around
How have these companies not just used ya know door handles?
I Have a 2022 Mazda 3 with 12 speaker Bose and it sounds awesome
I am not a fan of drivers fudging with touch screen interfaces. Every bit of lag on that screen is a bit of attention not on the road. Why do these car makers beg to be regulated? Why can't they just be responsible?
Loving the honesty
The one thing I wonder, is if the car has a slow charging power. On the go, charging fast is good, but when it’s sitting at home charging slowly makes it so the battery has a longer life, since charging fast reduces that life if you do it too much.
The people who this car is targeted towards could probably use a noise that reminds them they are in reverse.
LOL
I’m really curious if you played music with Apple Lossless in Apple Music in Apple CarPlay while wired to the car?
This vehicle is my actual nightmare. I hope my life never degrades to such a degree that I ever have to drive something like this as my own car
$68k? Absolutely not.
Thank you so much for critiquing what actually affects daily users, instead of just reading off the marketing and complaining about 'not enough engine noise' or 'no manual'.
I feel like Alex has never not liked the looks of a car when hosting these types of short circuits
possibly because most full EV builds are going with an overall similar design look, which many do find appealing. i personally love the ionic 5, it's fantastic
I own an older Lexus and I love mine because it’s old it’s got a V8 it has a cushy suspension even though weighs nearly 5000 pounds. Best sound system in a car I’ve owned and it’s just really comfortable. It’s surprising to see how many features my car has that the newer cars don’t. I have heated and cooled, front seats, heated rear seats, air suspension, fully auto climate control, and a couple other things. Everything just works because it’s not over complicated the newer cars have less features the overcomplicated they’re trying to involve all this new infotainment systems and they’re just fucking it all up
Aerodynamic benefit of a flat door handle....LOL!!!
The front looks like it was 3D printed using a cheap 3D printer
Jezuz, 3D printers must have gone up a ton in value
Lexus:“ Crap, we dont have a grill yet… any ideas?
Hmmm let me get my Legos“
Absolutely love Alex's humour, great video😂.
By any chance are you going to review the Polestar 2?
All the E-Waste cars make the Pontiac Aztek look good in comparison.
My grandmother was concidering the Subaru version to replace her ascent, but decided full electric wasn't a good idea yet.
Honestly I wouldn't recommend the Subaru either, the range is horrible for an off-road brand.
His frustrations with android auto and apple carplay I experienced in a chrysler minivan. Its frustratingly stupid about forcing any phone its ever been paired with to connect when you get within 100 feet of the car and you CANNOT disconnect them because the phones simply auto-connect and sound like ass. Because that nonsense appeals to average drivers, it will NOT improve.
06:25 That's a much nicer softer tone than my Toyota Prius Hybrid+ 2015 car, that has one of those loud ear scratching tones that beeps faster than this car's, and it is obnoxious.
As someone who has driven both Honda & Toyota vehicles, I can tell y'all that Toyota has been using electronic-based power steering since 2009 (or a bit earlier). Honda was still using hydraulic power steering back in 2009.
Improved the looks? LMAO 😂
I would love to see some more Lexuses or even Volvos.
I know you didnt ask, but the correct plural form of lexus is ‘lexi’
I have never disagreed with someone's taste of exterior looks more than Alex in this video.
As a dog owner I really appreciate the frunk in the IONIQ 5, as well as it having an unusually large amount of interior space. With having a dog bed in the boot of the car it makes getting to items under the boot floor awkward, and so the frunk is way more practical!
Really nailed the target demo on this one with upper middle class soccer mom's
Why does the front look pixelated 😂
They should do the Ford Maverick Hybrid. It seems really good for such a low price point. 40mpg for a small truck.
If you can get one. Ordering is shut down until the 2024 model year and most dealers are charging $5,000 - $10,000 over MSRP (even for used models)
Them: equivalent to a 4.5l V8
The performance: equivalent to their old-ass V6
OMG the first word I heard was R "zed" I'm dead
Same as the bZ4X, big oof on range and slow charge times. It's not for long road trips. It's alright as a luxury runabout, keeping it within a city. You'll likely still have a gas SUV for long road trips.
The target market absolutely needs to be reminded at all times that they are in reverse.
I love not having a steering column personally. A lot less vibration and ratio can vary based on speed
There are a lot of real good reasons for a direct link. The feed back tells you a lot on how the road is, and is very useful in telling you things like your rotor is out of whack.
Is there any chance Alex/Short Circuit team are going to check out Volvo's Lineup, Kinda Interested in XC40 given that its just an expensive version of ID.4 (which I doubt is anything special)
Am I the only one who's chucked about the 200 $ for some LEDs in the logo ?
Will you review the electric Ford Explorer (dont even know if it exists in NA?)
And the ID7? They have a good door handle solution
you guys forgot to blur the license plate lmao
Tooootally agree with the gauge cluster. You nailed the description of it. Why, Lexys - why? It truly sucks.
Why did the editor censored the front bumper?