My dog was resting and looked at me alarmed when the cabin noise switched on. Turned it off and he relaxed. I played it a second time and he reacted the same way. Yeah, I don't think he would like that car. We have AC, an air purifier, and fans going in this room and he still said "what is that? I can't sleep."
I have owned and appreciated Lexus RX hybrids since 2008. Loved them. When time came to replace the 2008 RX last year I was sooo excited about a Lexus EV offering. Then the comments started coming - more or less like what you are saying. Then the dealer said they a taking reservations at $1000 but they expected to receive the cars at the rate of one per month, so it would be two years to receive a mediocre car w limited range… grrr. Needless to say I am happy with my 2023 Bolt EUV. Lexus really muffed it with this ev, sorry to say.
Wow, hideous. Toyota/ Lexus get the BEV about as wrong as they can without being totally obvious that was their intent. They CANNOT be this clueless about automotive design as they build a number of good cars. Thanks for this brutally honest review of a car in which I have no interest.
The front looks like they used ideas from the two different styles of Toyota Camry (XV70), and Toyota Mirai. Question is why did they want a Lexus that looks like a Toyota ?
How can the Lexus make the Toyota look worse. The sentence does not make sense given the negativity of the review, I guess the reviewers actually mean that the Lexus is so bad that it makes the Toyota look good? Nonsense! The Toyota, Solterra and I am sure the Lexus are good cars with excellent build quality (Tesla?) Have had a Solterra for 8 months and am very content.
I’m truly astounded at how cynical Toyota is in putting this out. It the vehicle that they point the finger at and claim that BEV’s just aren’t up to scratch yet, Mr Biden, see…! But it’s THEIR car. Hahaha. Loved the Basil Faulty reference. But seriously, this can only be in existence because Toyota just doesn’t want BEV’s to work. That’s the only thing that makes sense of how terrible this vehicle is. And you hitting it with a tree branch really is NOT out of the question. I know that in Australia’s terrible charging infrastructure environment, this vehicle would be left on the side of the road after the battery has died and you have put a bullet into the front motor to put it out of its misery, leaving it for the carrion to consume it. Nope. This is Toyota’s big middle finger to the world. When this company collapses, I will point them in this vehicles direction and push them both into the abyss.
The further I got into this review, the more I came to that conclusion. It is Toyoda's idea of what a EV will be, not an exemplar of a good BEV, let alone a luxury one.
I think the RZ450e and the BZ4X are a good litmus test for reviews. If they make them seem like nice little cars you know they are too compromised by needing to keep in good with the car companies. You can tell Transport Evolved doesn’t owe anything to Toyota. Maybe Toyota can make a good electric car, but they haven’t bothered to do so yet.
It looks like a metal cicada to me. And that is not a good thing. I thought BMW had reached something of a low point in car styling. But Toyota seems to have taken that as a challenge. But that road noise! I agree Nikki - the mark of luxury is a quiet car. This is why I think the more expensive option versions of all cars should be clearly quieter, not just filled inside with unwanted junk and the outside fitted with meaningless trim changes. Then we start to hear that it is the physical embodiment of a nanny state. Toyota has lost it's way.
Always love your content you guys are great keep on the great work and I love that you're always honest with your opinions on every car You guys test whether or not you will be asked to review another one of their vehicles again Cheers
Toyota is scared of the Osborne effect - if they make a compelling EV it will crash to their ice car sales. It would also show how ingenuous they are in their campaign to slow down the EV revolution.
By the way, sorry I haven’t said love the episode and absolutely love the Bay role you make so much effort in doing it is always fantastic thank you seems so weird adequate to say I just want to give you a big hug in reality which I think you would enjoy Morceau than anything if you didn’t think I was a creep
One Lexus engineer: "We need to add power and have AWD because it is a higher end vehicle". The other: "No more space for a bigger motor on the rear axle". "Okay then, let's put a bigger one in the front bay". "It will change the car behavior, lower the autonomy, increase weight and noise, and BTW not much place for a bigger battery" said the second. "Good work guys, we nailed it, let't go for it and also, what a marvel your armrest cover that opens from both sides" congratulating themselves at the end of the design meeting.
I really liked my 3rd generation Prius and drove it for nine years. If Toyota had built a BEV version I'd almost certainly have bought it. It seems to this layman that this would have been an easy option to offer; surely it's simpler to build a BEV than a hybrid? When I switched to EV I went for a Leaf (due to the V2H support) and can't see me ever buying a Toyota again. It's not just their mediocre BEV cars and (IMAO) stupid hydrogen fixation; their politics (anti green/BEV lobbying) is a real turn off for me. There are so many good EVs on the market now, why would anyone buy a Toyota EV? (Unless they're someone with misplaced badge loyalty, I suppose.)
This feels like it's been built out of reject ideas/parts from the BZ4X. 1. Front bumper based off ideas used in the Toyota Camry (XV70), and Toyota Mirai. 2. The 150kW front motor, but only 80kW rear motor, was this really their 'solution' to increasing the drive power ? 3. Same exact battery as a car with less weight, less motors to drive, less gadgets to drain the battery. 4. Interior parts which are inconsistent quality/style/feel. 5. That stupid cheap steering wheel. 6. Whatever gremlins give it that much road/interior noise. Having an almost double the power motor with 150kW at the front, with no up-rated rear motor exposes flaws with the e-TNGA platform. Did the engineers simply forget to make both motors able to be mounted in front and rear interchangeable ? Or were the engineers supposed to make a 150kW rear motor as well, but management refused to pay for the work ? Maybe Toyota are just trying to kill off the Lexus brand, and this is their opening salvo.
GJeebs reviewed this car next to his Model Y and gave it a good review and I honestly don't know why. As a Model Y owner myself let's get something straight. The Model Y isn't a luxury car. You don't put faux leather seats in a car and call it luxury. That's not how that works. It would be like putting leather seats in a Corolla or Camry or a Nissan Rogue and calling it luxury. OK, not that's out of the way, the Lexus is considered luxury. In the case of this model it's a sport/luxury. But also having owned a Lexus LS400, the luxury on this one is a sleight departure from the way they used to do things. Some for the better but much of it worse now. It seems Lexus is definitely cutting some corners. That being said it is way better fit and finish than the Model why. I say this even though my Austin built M-Y came flawless. Many of the Lexus vehicles share much DNA with it sister brand Toyota. This has always been the case. Take a look at the LS300 and Camry. That's not always a bad thing that they do this but in this case with this EV they really went in the wrong direction. They would have better luck designing this EV from the ground up as far as drivetrain. I think they would have been better served to do more extensive R&D on a vehicle that could get EPA 350 miles or more given that their competition in the luxury segment is near, at or above these numbers in milage for about the same price or less.
It will be negative. I have a Solterra (8 months) and I am very satisfed. Note the build quality ( an importan factor too). Note also that the driver attention monitor is easily switched off, so not a negative factor. Suffice it to say that all in all the Solterra satifies our needs - also long road trips. All this banging on about range which in my experience is exaggerated.
I have the Subaru Solterra (essentially the same as the Toyota). Like the Lexus here, it also has driver attantion monitor. Irritating, yes but it is easily switched off. Which I have done with the Solterra. So, no reason to get ones knickers in a twist in this regard. (I add that I am very satisfied with the Solterra despite the bad press. Reckon I would be content with the Lexus too.)
Toyota has released new firmware for the BZ4X which gives a much more accurate range display including the use of HVAC system. Toyota was/is overly conservative in displaying range and the car has a very large buffer (~10%) below the nominal zero range.
During my life I have had a lot of cars and this Lexus RZ450e is the absolutely most comfortable car I ever have driven when I'm looking at what is comfortable for my driving. We have choosen the 18" wheels because they give an even smoother ride in the already very comfortable driving, they give longer range and less wear of the tires. We wanted a car where we didn't have to drive around with a bigger battery than we needed most of the year. As known the battery is the less invironmentally friendly part of all ev's, and this is also an reason why we didn't want a longer range than we need in our normal driving. And for some people a comfortable ride is more importent than range and handling like a race car, and after comparing reliability and responsiveness I'm not missing the prombles I know a lot of people have faced. If I would be allowed to give an advice to some car testers, I can tell that a lot of us are not interested in the taste and wishes to the car testers, but would like an objectively review about what sort of driving the car is good and best for, reliability for the brand etc., and of course not be spiteful of what some other poeple would like to have. I'm not an expert or car tester , but I follow the car industry, have driven some cars and at least I know something of the wishes for my friends, what they want to use in their lifes and what sort of advice they want to have. I'm sorry, but for me this review was a crash.
I am considering taking the plunge into the EV world. Stumbled onto your videos. This is the first video of yours I have seen ever i my life.I almost stopped thinking you folks were in the UK but I saw the had Texas plates and references to the PNW so I was intrigued... I am comparing the RZ450e via way of the Soltera. I very much appreciated the comment "this car makes me angry" with a fantastic break down of the exact why. I too would be frustrated if I paid for luxury that wasn't. Your blunt assessment and cheeky quirky commentary was hilarious to listen to. Thank you Extra special points on the license plate jacket.
No wonder Toyota thinks Hydrogen and not battery EVs are the future. They have no clue how to build one. They would do better to just copy any other manufacturers EV. 🤣
They know how to build a good car, they are just opposed to BEVs and are determined to do a bad job of it just to prove that BEV is the "wrong" way to go.
Are they really that crazy to continue pursuing hydrogen? Sadly the vehicle buying public can easily get brainwashed by Toyota just like their dealership staff...
Surprised that Hydrogen production has not started because 60,000HP aircraft like the BOEING 747 and and thousands of other high powered jet aircraft in service must go to it.
@@wingsounds13 I will wait until they _do_ produce a viable BEV before I accept that they _can_ build one. Not all legacy manufacturers are making the shift. That said, this is not the direction that the company needs to take for long-term success. Even for dedicated one-make Toyota buyers, this is not a good choice.
@@John.0z it's just a matter of determining to do so. We know that they know how to build good cars. We know that they know how to build good Hydrogen Fuel Cell EVs - which also require a battery to handle regen and short-term high power demands. In many ways, FCEVs are harder to build than BEVs. Their problem is their head-up-their-ass attitude that BEVs are NOT the way to go. Not just the Right way, but simply NOT the way, period.
Why are people so obsessed with 0 - 60 times? Most people give zero shits about that. 5 seconds was super car level acceleration not too long ago. 8 seconds is more than enough for a family car.
Advertising, mostly. The average driver in traffic takes probably 15 seconds to do it. Yes, quicker occasional spurts for overtaking are good to have. I have a Chevy Bolt, and it's the fastest-accelerating car that I have ever owned ... and it's sufficient. (previous cars have been VW diesels and older 4-cyl Honda and Toyota vehicles back when 13 seconds to 60 mph was considered decent)
While I don’t think 0 to 60 is very important, I do see it as an indicator that the car will have the acceleration I want when I’m passing cars. So 5 seconds seems great and I’d say it’s on of the few good things about this car. I’ve driven the Ioniq 5, EV 6 and Y and I’d say that the horsepower of 320 or so it very satisfying with a heavy electric car.
@peterfessier9780 virtually any modern car will have more than enough acceleration to pass quickly enough, sprint times are pointless for most people and most situations
After watching this review, I was curious to see what others say. Watched the carwow review. Interesting that for the noise level, they'd say the car is very quiet, and they even put the RZ450e on the shortlist. With Nikki's and Kate's ethics, I'd trust their feedbacks more. This being said, at the end of the day, it's still best to try the car yourself before buying. As for me, one day I'd like to replace my good old BMW Gran Tourer 218d. But can't find a decent electric car with good range (>500km), good passenger (5+2) and boot space inside while not being too long (
I agree, best to test yourself. Have seen so many reviews saying the Ariya is terrible in ways, but when I had a long road trip with it. I was so good, and I could not disagree with them more.
You got to hand it to Michael. He is very charitable. Seems like the worse a car is, the more glamour shots he'll take of it. I can hear his thought process, "This car is a turd. This car knows it's a turd. Well I'm going to polish it up, shoot it in some of the coolest areas of Portland, find the best angles, throw in some filters and let this turd of car feel good and pretty for a day in it's turdy existence. That's all I can do." Anyway, on an earnest note, the whole TE team does an amazing job but Michael really zhuzshes it up. I've never given Portland much thought, not even after watching Portlandia. But watching what Michael does with the place, makes me think, "Hmmm, Portland might be worth a stop one day." Now if my state would pull it's head out of it's intergluteal cleft and vote in a regime change so it's safe for them to travel here, I can only imagine how great he could make OKC look. 🥰
Great review and details. I’ve commented on this before that I don’t believe that Toyota wants you to buy their current electric cars yet. Have they gotten the timing wrong in predicting the surge of the EV market? Possibly and for sure they’ve done a crappy job at public relations. But before you believe that Toyota has not been researching and planning for better EVs to come later then you might want to consider a few things. 1. Unlike Tesla (Tezlah) Toyota didn’t start in the 21st century as an electric car maker. They make millions of ICE and Hybrid cars and can’t switch to making millions of just EV cars right now because of > 2. Battery supply is currently limited and battery tech is still improving so it still makes sense for them to make a lot of hybrid cars instead of a few BEVs at this moment. 3. If we are to believe Toyota’s claims they are hard at work on solid state batteries to come later this decade when they hope to bring lots of new models on dedicated EV platforms. I hope this is so and that they and other manufacturers can offer vehicles that regular people can afford instead of the trophy cars and trucks for the very well off that we have now.
The original lexus started out with years of research of customer preferences, out of a design studio built in california. Now they just guess and throw something together fast, just to have a product on the market.
I have the same question. There was an audio glitch just as she said how many minutes it took. All of the subjective comments were quite understandable and points well made. But it would have been very nice to hear this one objective bit of data.
Absolutely nuts that this thing gets 1.8 miles per kwh.... My AWD ProS ID4 got that efficiency, TOWING A TENT TRAILER with a bike rack off the back of it as a giant aerodynamic brake. Crazy. Absolutely crazy
This time, I am not in agreement with Nikki. Generally, I like her style and delivery but having a Solterra for 8 months I am very satisfied. (Tip: I found how to switch off the driver attention thingy - which, in general, reviewers seem to be unaware of this possibilty since they do bang on about it. So, absolutely not an issue). As for range, I have driven on several long road trips and after the first my range anxiety evaporated. The build quality, not surprisingly, is excellent (for me this is important if not crucial) noticeably so compared with other makes,😅 especially Teslas. I am very satisfied with the Solterra and by extension 😊would be for its family members the Toyota and Lexus. There are negative comments frome some reviewers concerning the styling. This, of course, is subjective, I for one, like the styling of these models; I do think the Solterra has the edge but perhaps it has grown more on me. I have the impression that there is a grouping of reviewers who jump on the moaning band wagon (although I note there are positive reviews). Also, I have the impression that owners of these vehicles are satisfied with some (like myself) being enthusiastic. It would be nice with some balance from Nikki and her friend. Shift focus a bit; for 😅balance, what are the positives?
Something about the audio in this first half of this video made it really hard to listen to for me. I think it has something to do with the cabin noise combined with your attempts to suppress it, because it seemed to mostly go away when you started talking about cabin noise at 15:35. Hard to explain exactly what it was, but it sounded like bad compression artifacting in low end, with occasional muffled popping and vibrations sounds. It almost made me feel slightly nauseous to listen to.
Thank you, this was interesting and depressingly predictable, given the head in the sand approach Toyota's CEO has taken to the changes in their industry. Well this is a car from the company that still, in 2023, is lobbying governments to relax legislation on pollution. The RZ450e looks like part of their strategy to put people off BEVs. I do not like SUVs or see the point of them over an estate, which is the safer and more capable and more affordable option. However, in my work I drive a lot of vehicles, a lot of miles ie in the last two days I drove a Lexus RXL 450h to Lanarkshire from Devon and drove an Audi Q7 back. Thankfully I'm driving more BEVs now than ICE cars. An SUV I have driven a few times now to various parts of the country is the BYD ATTO3. And it is an impressive drive. Unlike the RZ450e, it is competent on the road and it has an honest 260 mile range. It is well screwed together and is proving popular. Wind and road noise on the motorway is very low ie noticeably better than the Lexus and Q7 I've just driven. (I have driven many Q7s and the road noise from the bigger posser option wheels is dreadful. Thankfully yesterdays Q7 had the more sensible items) I have owned BEVs now for well over 4 years, the oldest being a 2013 Zoe and I look at this offering from Lexus and see a car that would have been okayish 10 years ago, as long as you pretended Tesla didn't exist. Some are saying that Toyota (and their world record levels of debt} are not going to be around for much longer. Even if they survive, I've no intention of buying a car from a company that is holding back our transition to a survivable future. Love and best wishes to you all at TE
I bet Toyota pushed this car (along with BZ4X) out so they can point to the customer disappointment and poor sales and say "see nobody wants EVs let's go back to fossil fuels". My 6 year old Ioniq gets 150mi on 30kWh. 71kWh should get 350mi. Anything less and it's an incompetent, unworthy car.
Well, the original 2012 Tesla Model S managed to get a longer range with a smaller battery pack - and is still in almost every way superior. Toyota/Lexus has seriously blundered when they made this inferior to a decade old car in the same price range! It's almost as if the Toyota/Lexus engineers were determined to make their EV worse than their other models. In a truly "Kodak" moment, they are desperately trying to protect their existing ICE hybrid market against the inevitable pure EV future.
Well, as is well documented, Tesla build quality cannot compare with Solterra, Toyota B4Z and By extension I suppose the Lexus. This surely must mean something?
I could imagine this being a car for an older person who drives around town and they are used to driving an old RX350 and they just want a Lexus SUV and only plan on driving it around town but are used to the Lexus brand
Honest! Would be if the review was balanced by some positives. Note that the driver attention monitor is easily switched off so not an issue to bang on about for several minutes. A litany of negativity. I should know; I have had Solterra for 8 months and no regrets. Great to drive with excennt build qualty.
Maybe Toyota could just make a deal with Aptera and give them 50+ Million USD so they can start production. Then Toyota could build it in license and sell it as "Prius 3W 2024" or so. Prius was a innovative, technologically advanced car back then in 1997 to 2017, but since then, Toyota lost their leadership and seems to have switched to the dark side, even lobbying against EVs - time to catch up and surpass.
When T got in to financial trouble the dreamers and innovators were rebranded as trouble makers and “non-core workers”. Then they were let go. Of course these people went elsewhere and took their ideas with them. Toyota is the rice hull of the crop now. Useful, just not to humans
Lexus could use some of Lucid's tech. But in China, they have another EV that is a joint development with BYD. They way things are going, it wouldn't surprise me if Toyota ends up as a badge that BYD puts on some of their cars.
Toyota has, and does make some of the best most dependable cars in the world. They could build an incredible EV but as we know they are against that and so they intentionally build half assed electric vehicles. Toyota should just keep making incredible hybrid cars and get us close to 100 miles per gallon.
You've got to wonder whether Toyota are just brazenly incompetent, or spitefully refusing to make a passable EV... 3miles/kWh in a vehicle that size should be worst-cast winter highway speed driving. Not the target for gentle driving...
Please tell me your opinion on why Toyota is so poor at BEVs and so good at hybrids?! I’d also like to know why they are not making a full BEV Prius, it seems to be a logical next step for them. How can it be that they are losing the race to GMC and their Bolt EV. I’ve also noticed that the new redesigned Tundra has missed the mark too. A v6 turbo engine with a similar setup to Ford with the motor sandwiched between the engine and transmission. Still from what I’ve heard, not really better gas mileage than their old v8 engines, what is happening with Toyota?
If they continue to make this for 4 yr, maybe it could be a good used car deal 3 years after that, 2031? Prob more so for bz4x. Would sir care for an Astra exclamation mark
You both made a very good video. But I do know a person who I could recommend this to. I can go and recommend this vehicle to the people who thought that this was a good idea for a car. I think a good rule of thumb for them to follow from now on is they should have to drive it first for a while before they present it to the public. Maybe then they could be able to know how to make a better electric car. But that is just my opinion
The maths to build a good-handling well-balanced and quiet car have been open knowledge for decades. Toyota engineers know how to build such a car; we can only assume they’re not being allowed to for some reason we’ll probably read in a suicide note some day.
I feel like whomever designed the Lexus Toyobaru thriplets did so with contempt for EVs. The more I watch this, the more I feel like the car was designed to make people not want it, so they'll go buy the hybrid models instead.
I wish to know was it ever drone in the background through your audio or was that the real sound in the car which is unusual for your clips in itself the drone in the background that may have been the reason you were more annoyed than anything else, but I will say The vehicle is reminding me of hi-fi in China specifically hi-fi Y. But I will come back to the sound in the cabin somewhat on Lexus, not something Lexus water flat, or should’ve let through after the LFA
this is what you get when you don't listen to the market and add more fluff. for years people want an affordable car in the 25k range. no one care about 3 seconds 0-60, 4 wheel drive, self driving, luxury feel material. make a car a vehicle again not a home.
I do not think the title ( Lexus makes the Toyota look worse?) of this piece is what Nikki and her side- kick intended because it is positive for the Lexus so in comparison the Toyota is not so good?
So this car is minding you as if you're in kindergarten! You'd think the IVI / infotainment would have properly integrated carplay etc. since Toyota are collaboratively working with Automotive Grade Linux.
Appreciate your honesty, but sooner or later Toyota will just stop giving you press cars. It looks uglier than the BZ4X. The BZ4X but worst. This BZ4X, you load it up with goodies and the range goes down.
I wish that this surprises me; but it really doesn't the busy forks is a pig, the subaru version is worse and this is a pig tarted up. Toyota really should have called it the Toyota PAPOS, for passive-aggressive piece of .
So its the RX4xxH and thr Highlander Hybrid all over again. I can personally speak this same issue with 2008 HiHy and 2010 RX450h. The HiHy had smooth power and felt waaay better on the twisties of Hwy2 and 20. Granted, the RX450 feels underpowered but smaller... discovered that the AWD of the RX450 was basically imaginary, no matter which drive mode, hybrid-pedal touch acceleration and deceleration. Its almost like the AWD system is utilized much differently (if hardly at all) than the one on the HiHy. So yeah, for a company that I've driven & loved for decades now, its kinda sad. Pleae don't ruin whatever the EV Supra becomes. #tunanocrust
But then why bother with the electronic popper? What's wrong with a good old-fashioned mechanical latch release ... especially if you need that mechanism anyhow?
We wouldn’t accept someone selling houses like, “This property comes equipped with a self boiling hot water faucet & an artificial grass lawn” “Yea but why is there a massive structural crack down the side wall & 6 roof tiles missing?”
Toyota today is not the Toyota so many fell in love with from decades ago. I do believe their leadership has failed. Aiko Toyoda and others are to blame. I believe Toyota needs a ground up examination of their company culture. I do fear they have become like many large legacy builders that are bogged down in red tape and out of touch. I know Musk can be an a--hole, but the Tesla and SpaceX organizations have remained some of the least red tape and it seems they are encouraged to keep leadership as horizontal as possible. I know there are brand loyalist out there, but I hope they change their ways. Loyalty gets abused by corporations.
5:47 hey nikki.... im tryin to prevent that weird steering in the game im making from scratch on roblox and no im not advertising but i DO know what your talking about stability wise. Kinda scary tbh to imagine its unstable under throttle. That slightly worries me
Thank you, Nikki and Kate for reviewing this turd of a car. Toyota, Toyoda, and Lexus should be very embarrassed about their poor electric vehicle offerings.
My dog was resting and looked at me alarmed when the cabin noise switched on. Turned it off and he relaxed. I played it a second time and he reacted the same way. Yeah, I don't think he would like that car. We have AC, an air purifier, and fans going in this room and he still said "what is that? I can't sleep."
Wise dog. Maybe we can train dogs to sniff out bad cars
I have owned and appreciated Lexus RX hybrids since 2008. Loved them. When time came to replace the 2008 RX last year I was sooo excited about a Lexus EV offering. Then the comments started coming - more or less like what you are saying. Then the dealer said they a taking reservations at $1000 but they expected to receive the cars at the rate of one per month, so it would be two years to receive a mediocre car w limited range… grrr. Needless to say I am happy with my 2023 Bolt EUV. Lexus really muffed it with this ev, sorry to say.
It's really sad that a Bolt EUV is a better car than one twice the cost, but as a bZ4X owner... Yeah. The Bolt is better.
That is exactly what I was thinking
Wow, hideous. Toyota/ Lexus get the BEV about as wrong as they can without being totally obvious that was their intent. They CANNOT be this clueless about automotive design as they build a number of good cars.
Thanks for this brutally honest review of a car in which I have no interest.
The front looks like they used ideas from the two different styles of Toyota Camry (XV70), and Toyota Mirai.
Question is why did they want a Lexus that looks like a Toyota ?
A Tesla and Lucid looks way worse. Hypocrites
Wheels didnt fall off. That is a big win. I look for that in my cars.🎉
i didnt really think you could make the BZ4X worse. didnt think it was possible.
Nonsense, 450km range, as tested in the Netherlands, 4x fast charging in 24h and far better charging. 10 years warranty.
How can the Lexus make the Toyota look worse. The sentence does not make sense given the negativity of the review, I guess the reviewers actually mean that the Lexus is so bad that it makes the Toyota look good? Nonsense! The Toyota, Solterra and I am sure the Lexus are good cars with excellent build quality (Tesla?) Have had a Solterra for 8 months and am very content.
@@davidnicholson6901 so true!
I don't want to live in a world without Toyota, but apparently Toyota does.
I'd be very happy living in a world without #Toyota, never owned one, never wanted to!
"...I think they are potentially going to be turned off driving an electric vehicle"
That was the whole point, being Toyota
Another point on the imaginary check list done perfectly ;-)
(Of course this comment is a joke)
I've been working for Lexus/Toyota for three years until I thought "enough lies". Now you know why.
I’m truly astounded at how cynical Toyota is in putting this out. It the vehicle that they point the finger at and claim that BEV’s just aren’t up to scratch yet, Mr Biden, see…! But it’s THEIR car. Hahaha. Loved the Basil Faulty reference.
But seriously, this can only be in existence because Toyota just doesn’t want BEV’s to work. That’s the only thing that makes sense of how terrible this vehicle is. And you hitting it with a tree branch really is NOT out of the question. I know that in Australia’s terrible charging infrastructure environment, this vehicle would be left on the side of the road after the battery has died and you have put a bullet into the front motor to put it out of its misery, leaving it for the carrion to consume it. Nope. This is Toyota’s big middle finger to the world. When this company collapses, I will point them in this vehicles direction and push them both into the abyss.
The further I got into this review, the more I came to that conclusion. It is Toyoda's idea of what a EV will be, not an exemplar of a good BEV, let alone a luxury one.
So this car is smaller then my Ioniq 5 and has a way bigger battery then my 58kWh and it gets LESS range? What the actual fudge?
BZ4X is a name for a car you just do not want to sell. Whereas the RZ450e is just a carbuncle.
Great vdieo!! Adore the humour. Love the editing.
22:08 "Giving Electric Vehicles a Bad Name"™ is a trademark of Toyota® Motor Corporation, all rights reserved world-wide.
Hilarious!
I think the RZ450e and the BZ4X are a good litmus test for reviews. If they make them seem like nice little cars you know they are too compromised by needing to keep in good with the car companies. You can tell Transport Evolved doesn’t owe anything to Toyota. Maybe Toyota can make a good electric car, but they haven’t bothered to do so yet.
They're really killing it.... literally.
Simpsons season six episode 12. The stone cutters song “We Do”.
Not a good review. The Toyota, Solterra and Lexus are much better than the impression left by this negative review.
It looks like a metal cicada to me. And that is not a good thing.
I thought BMW had reached something of a low point in car styling. But Toyota seems to have taken that as a challenge.
But that road noise! I agree Nikki - the mark of luxury is a quiet car. This is why I think the more expensive option versions of all cars should be clearly quieter, not just filled inside with unwanted junk and the outside fitted with meaningless trim changes.
Then we start to hear that it is the physical embodiment of a nanny state. Toyota has lost it's way.
Great review, pity about the car.
Always love your content you guys are great keep on the great work and I love that you're always honest with your opinions on every car You guys test whether or not you will be asked to review another one of their vehicles again Cheers
Toyota is scared of the Osborne effect - if they make a compelling EV it will crash to their ice car sales. It would also show how ingenuous they are in their campaign to slow down the EV revolution.
By the way, sorry I haven’t said love the episode and absolutely love the Bay role you make so much effort in doing it is always fantastic thank you seems so weird adequate to say I just want to give you a big hug in reality which I think you would enjoy Morceau than anything if you didn’t think I was a creep
One Lexus engineer: "We need to add power and have AWD because it is a higher end vehicle". The other: "No more space for a bigger motor on the rear axle". "Okay then, let's put a bigger one in the front bay". "It will change the car behavior, lower the autonomy, increase weight and noise, and BTW not much place for a bigger battery" said the second. "Good work guys, we nailed it, let't go for it and also, what a marvel your armrest cover that opens from both sides" congratulating themselves at the end of the design meeting.
I really liked my 3rd generation Prius and drove it for nine years. If Toyota had built a BEV version I'd almost certainly have bought it. It seems to this layman that this would have been an easy option to offer; surely it's simpler to build a BEV than a hybrid?
When I switched to EV I went for a Leaf (due to the V2H support) and can't see me ever buying a Toyota again. It's not just their mediocre BEV cars and (IMAO) stupid hydrogen fixation; their politics (anti green/BEV lobbying) is a real turn off for me.
There are so many good EVs on the market now, why would anyone buy a Toyota EV? (Unless they're someone with misplaced badge loyalty, I suppose.)
Thanks for posting this!
Since I have a Gen2 Toyota RAV4 EV and I think I'll see if I can draw any comparisons...
For good or bad, our ~2600 GEN2 RAV4 EVs have Tesla underpinnings, so not a lot of the driving experience is Toyota's doing.
This feels like it's been built out of reject ideas/parts from the BZ4X.
1. Front bumper based off ideas used in the Toyota Camry (XV70), and Toyota Mirai.
2. The 150kW front motor, but only 80kW rear motor, was this really their 'solution' to increasing the drive power ?
3. Same exact battery as a car with less weight, less motors to drive, less gadgets to drain the battery.
4. Interior parts which are inconsistent quality/style/feel.
5. That stupid cheap steering wheel.
6. Whatever gremlins give it that much road/interior noise.
Having an almost double the power motor with 150kW at the front, with no up-rated rear motor exposes flaws with the e-TNGA platform.
Did the engineers simply forget to make both motors able to be mounted in front and rear interchangeable ?
Or were the engineers supposed to make a 150kW rear motor as well, but management refused to pay for the work ?
Maybe Toyota are just trying to kill off the Lexus brand, and this is their opening salvo.
thanks for making me feel good about my BZ4X
GJeebs reviewed this car next to his Model Y and gave it a good review and I honestly don't know why. As a Model Y owner myself let's get something straight. The Model Y isn't a luxury car. You don't put faux leather seats in a car and call it luxury. That's not how that works. It would be like putting leather seats in a Corolla or Camry or a Nissan Rogue and calling it luxury.
OK, not that's out of the way, the Lexus is considered luxury. In the case of this model it's a sport/luxury. But also having owned a Lexus LS400, the luxury on this one is a sleight departure from the way they used to do things. Some for the better but much of it worse now. It seems Lexus is definitely cutting some corners. That being said it is way better fit and finish than the Model why. I say this even though my Austin built M-Y came flawless.
Many of the Lexus vehicles share much DNA with it sister brand Toyota. This has always been the case. Take a look at the LS300 and Camry. That's not always a bad thing that they do this but in this case with this EV they really went in the wrong direction. They would have better luck designing this EV from the ground up as far as drivetrain. I think they would have been better served to do more extensive R&D on a vehicle that could get EPA 350 miles or more given that their competition in the luxury segment is near, at or above these numbers in milage for about the same price or less.
Thanks! Sounds like this car is about twice the cost of where it “should be”. Can’t wait to see your perspective of the Solterra.
It will be negative. I have a Solterra (8 months) and I am very satisfed. Note the build quality ( an importan factor too). Note also that the driver attention monitor is easily switched off, so not a negative factor. Suffice it to say that all in all the Solterra satifies our needs - also long road trips. All this banging on about range which in my experience is exaggerated.
I thought some of the BMW offerings are ugly! But this takes it to a whole new level
I have the Subaru Solterra (essentially the same as the Toyota). Like the Lexus here, it also has driver attantion monitor. Irritating, yes but it is easily switched off. Which I have done with the Solterra. So, no reason to get ones knickers in a twist in this regard. (I add that I am very satisfied with the Solterra despite the bad press. Reckon I would be content with the Lexus too.)
Toyota has released new firmware for the BZ4X which gives a much more accurate range display including the use of HVAC system. Toyota was/is overly conservative in displaying range and the car has a very large buffer (~10%) below the nominal zero range.
Great it accurately describes how crap it is
During my life I have had a lot of cars and this Lexus RZ450e is the absolutely most comfortable car I ever have driven when I'm looking at what is comfortable for my driving. We have choosen the 18" wheels because they give an even smoother ride in the already very comfortable driving, they give longer range and less wear of the tires. We wanted a car where we didn't have to drive around with a bigger battery than we needed most of the year. As known the battery is the less invironmentally friendly part of all ev's, and this is also an reason why we didn't want a longer range than we need in our normal driving. And for some people a comfortable ride is more importent than range and handling like a race car, and after comparing reliability and responsiveness I'm not missing the prombles I know a lot of people have faced. If I would be allowed to give an advice to some car testers, I can tell that a lot of us are not interested in the taste and wishes to the car testers, but would like an objectively review about what sort of driving the car is good and best for, reliability for the brand etc., and of course not be spiteful of what some other poeple would like to have. I'm not an expert or car tester , but I follow the car industry, have driven some cars and at least I know something of the wishes for my friends, what they want to use in their lifes and what sort of advice they want to have. I'm sorry, but for me this review was a crash.
LMAO! You gals crack me up! Love those looks of derision towards the car!!! 😂😂😂
I am considering taking the plunge into the EV world.
Stumbled onto your videos. This is the first video of yours I have seen ever i my life.I almost stopped thinking you folks were in the UK but I saw the had Texas plates and references to the PNW so I was intrigued...
I am comparing the RZ450e via way of the Soltera. I very much appreciated the comment "this car makes me angry" with a fantastic break down of the exact why. I too would be frustrated if I paid for luxury that wasn't. Your blunt assessment and cheeky quirky commentary was hilarious to listen to. Thank you
Extra special points on the license plate jacket.
BRILLANT VIDEO!!!! PULL NO PUNCHES!!! LOVE THIS CHANNEL!!!!
Simply put, Toyota doesn't want to make an electric car.
This, and the Toyota version appear to be passive aggressive versions of an electric car.
Well said.
"You want a battery EV!? *Fine.* Here, drive _this_ and _then_ tell me all about how much you love your precious battery EVs."
@4:30 - Kate, I love your earrings!
OMG, thanks for pointing them out!
(I wonder if they actually have micro cassette audiotape in them 🤔)
How is this $60K??? Wow.
Luckily it's not! It's $70k ... 😂😂
$68k to be precise.
No wonder Toyota thinks Hydrogen and not battery EVs are the future. They have no clue how to build one. They would do better to just copy any other manufacturers EV. 🤣
They know how to build a good car, they are just opposed to BEVs and are determined to do a bad job of it just to prove that BEV is the "wrong" way to go.
Are they really that crazy to continue pursuing hydrogen? Sadly the vehicle buying public can easily get brainwashed by Toyota just like their dealership staff...
Surprised that Hydrogen production has not started because 60,000HP aircraft like the BOEING 747 and and thousands of other high powered jet aircraft in service must go to it.
@@wingsounds13 I will wait until they _do_ produce a viable BEV before I accept that they _can_ build one. Not all legacy manufacturers are making the shift.
That said, this is not the direction that the company needs to take for long-term success. Even for dedicated one-make Toyota buyers, this is not a good choice.
@@John.0z it's just a matter of determining to do so. We know that they know how to build good cars. We know that they know how to build good Hydrogen Fuel Cell EVs - which also require a battery to handle regen and short-term high power demands. In many ways, FCEVs are harder to build than BEVs. Their problem is their head-up-their-ass attitude that BEVs are NOT the way to go. Not just the Right way, but simply NOT the way, period.
Holding back, as usual. Thanks.
Why are people so obsessed with 0 - 60 times? Most people give zero shits about that. 5 seconds was super car level acceleration not too long ago. 8 seconds is more than enough for a family car.
It's not like you can even reach 60mph in the rush hour.
Exactly, it was Tesla and Tesla owners that put the emphasis on ridiculous/ludicrous acceleration times, other brands felt compelled to follow
Advertising, mostly. The average driver in traffic takes probably 15 seconds to do it. Yes, quicker occasional spurts for overtaking are good to have. I have a Chevy Bolt, and it's the fastest-accelerating car that I have ever owned ... and it's sufficient. (previous cars have been VW diesels and older 4-cyl Honda and Toyota vehicles back when 13 seconds to 60 mph was considered decent)
While I don’t think 0 to 60 is very important, I do see it as an indicator that the car will have the acceleration I want when I’m passing cars. So 5 seconds seems great and I’d say it’s on of the few good things about this car. I’ve driven the Ioniq 5, EV 6 and Y and I’d say that the horsepower of 320 or so it very satisfying with a heavy electric car.
@peterfessier9780 virtually any modern car will have more than enough acceleration to pass quickly enough, sprint times are pointless for most people and most situations
After watching this review, I was curious to see what others say. Watched the carwow review. Interesting that for the noise level, they'd say the car is very quiet, and they even put the RZ450e on the shortlist. With Nikki's and Kate's ethics, I'd trust their feedbacks more. This being said, at the end of the day, it's still best to try the car yourself before buying. As for me, one day I'd like to replace my good old BMW Gran Tourer 218d. But can't find a decent electric car with good range (>500km), good passenger (5+2) and boot space inside while not being too long (
I agree, best to test yourself. Have seen so many reviews saying the Ariya is terrible in ways, but when I had a long road trip with it. I was so good, and I could not disagree with them more.
That was what I was going to recommend, mine is great excellent range, good at towing trailers too.
You got to hand it to Michael. He is very charitable. Seems like the worse a car is, the more glamour shots he'll take of it. I can hear his thought process, "This car is a turd. This car knows it's a turd. Well I'm going to polish it up, shoot it in some of the coolest areas of Portland, find the best angles, throw in some filters and let this turd of car feel good and pretty for a day in it's turdy existence. That's all I can do."
Anyway, on an earnest note, the whole TE team does an amazing job but Michael really zhuzshes it up. I've never given Portland much thought, not even after watching Portlandia. But watching what Michael does with the place, makes me think, "Hmmm, Portland might be worth a stop one day." Now if my state would pull it's head out of it's intergluteal cleft and vote in a regime change so it's safe for them to travel here, I can only imagine how great he could make OKC look. 🥰
Michael is by far the best camera person we’ve ever known ;)
Great review and details. I’ve commented on this before that I don’t believe that Toyota wants you to buy their current electric cars yet. Have they gotten the timing wrong in predicting the surge of the EV market? Possibly and for sure they’ve done a crappy job at public relations. But before you believe that Toyota has not been researching and planning for better EVs to come later then you might want to consider a few things. 1. Unlike Tesla (Tezlah) Toyota didn’t start in the 21st century as an electric car maker. They make millions of ICE and Hybrid cars and can’t switch to making millions of just EV cars right now because of > 2. Battery supply is currently limited and battery tech is still improving so it still makes sense for them to make a lot of hybrid cars instead of a few BEVs at this moment. 3. If we are to believe Toyota’s claims they are hard at work on solid state batteries to come later this decade when they hope to bring lots of new models on dedicated EV platforms. I hope this is so and that they and other manufacturers can offer vehicles that regular people can afford instead of the trophy cars and trucks for the very well off that we have now.
The original lexus started out with years of research of customer preferences, out of a design studio built in california. Now they just guess and throw something together fast, just to have a product on the market.
That's quite an accomplishment, building an EV worse than BZ4X 😊
Did I hear Kate correctly when she said it took an hour (60 minutes) to charge from 53 percent SOC TO 80 SOC.
I have the same question. There was an audio glitch just as she said how many minutes it took.
All of the subjective comments were quite understandable and points well made. But it would have been very nice to hear this one objective bit of data.
I rewound it and played it with CC on, and it typed "53 to 80 in 30 minutes".
Absolutely nuts that this thing gets 1.8 miles per kwh....
My AWD ProS ID4 got that efficiency, TOWING A TENT TRAILER with a bike rack off the back of it as a giant aerodynamic brake.
Crazy. Absolutely crazy
This time, I am not in agreement with Nikki. Generally, I like her style and delivery but having a Solterra for 8 months I am very satisfied. (Tip: I found how to switch off the driver attention thingy - which, in general, reviewers seem to be unaware of this possibilty since they do bang on about it. So, absolutely not an issue). As for range, I have driven on several long road trips and after the first my range anxiety evaporated. The build quality, not surprisingly, is excellent (for me this is important if not crucial) noticeably so compared with other makes,😅 especially Teslas. I am very satisfied with the Solterra and by extension 😊would be for its family members the Toyota and Lexus. There are negative comments frome some reviewers concerning the styling. This, of course, is subjective, I for one, like the styling of these models; I do think the Solterra has the edge but perhaps it has grown more on me. I have the impression that there is a grouping of reviewers who jump on the moaning band wagon (although I note there are positive reviews). Also, I have the impression that owners of these vehicles are satisfied with some (like myself) being enthusiastic. It would be nice with some balance from Nikki and her friend. Shift focus a bit; for 😅balance, what are the positives?
Something about the audio in this first half of this video made it really hard to listen to for me. I think it has something to do with the cabin noise combined with your attempts to suppress it, because it seemed to mostly go away when you started talking about cabin noise at 15:35.
Hard to explain exactly what it was, but it sounded like bad compression artifacting in low end, with occasional muffled popping and vibrations sounds. It almost made me feel slightly nauseous to listen to.
Thank you, this was interesting and depressingly predictable, given the head in the sand approach Toyota's CEO has taken to the changes in their industry. Well this is a car from the company that still, in 2023, is lobbying governments to relax legislation on pollution. The RZ450e looks like part of their strategy to put people off BEVs. I do not like SUVs or see the point of them over an estate, which is the safer and more capable and more affordable option. However, in my work I drive a lot of vehicles, a lot of miles ie in the last two days I drove a Lexus RXL 450h to Lanarkshire from Devon and drove an Audi Q7 back. Thankfully I'm driving more BEVs now than ICE cars. An SUV I have driven a few times now to various parts of the country is the BYD ATTO3. And it is an impressive drive. Unlike the RZ450e, it is competent on the road and it has an honest 260 mile range. It is well screwed together and is proving popular. Wind and road noise on the motorway is very low ie noticeably better than the Lexus and Q7 I've just driven. (I have driven many Q7s and the road noise from the bigger posser option wheels is dreadful. Thankfully yesterdays Q7 had the more sensible items) I have owned BEVs now for well over 4 years, the oldest being a 2013 Zoe and I look at this offering from Lexus and see a car that would have been okayish 10 years ago, as long as you pretended Tesla didn't exist. Some are saying that Toyota (and their world record levels of debt} are not going to be around for much longer. Even if they survive, I've no intention of buying a car from a company that is holding back our transition to a survivable future. Love and best wishes to you all at TE
I bet Toyota pushed this car (along with BZ4X) out so they can point to the customer disappointment and poor sales and say "see nobody wants EVs let's go back to fossil fuels".
My 6 year old Ioniq gets 150mi on 30kWh. 71kWh should get 350mi. Anything less and it's an incompetent, unworthy car.
Well, the original 2012 Tesla Model S managed to get a longer range with a smaller battery pack - and is still in almost every way superior. Toyota/Lexus has seriously blundered when they made this inferior to a decade old car in the same price range!
It's almost as if the Toyota/Lexus engineers were determined to make their EV worse than their other models. In a truly "Kodak" moment, they are desperately trying to protect their existing ICE hybrid market against the inevitable pure EV future.
Well, as is well documented, Tesla build quality cannot compare with Solterra, Toyota B4Z and By extension I suppose the Lexus. This surely must mean something?
I honestly LOL at the charge port scene. Way to phone it in Toyota. Oh BTW, nice to see comments are back!
I could imagine this being a car for an older person who drives around town and they are used to driving an old RX350 and they just want a Lexus SUV and only plan on driving it around town but are used to the Lexus brand
Very harsh, but totally honest! Good for you guys! Cheers!
Honest! Would be if the review was balanced by some positives. Note that the driver attention monitor is easily switched off so not an issue to bang on about for several minutes. A litany of negativity. I should know; I have had Solterra for 8 months and no regrets. Great to drive with excennt build qualty.
Lexus C Team was given this remit: make a poor handling short range EV with lackluster interior. Everyone one on the C Tram got bonuses.
lmao they took busyforks and made it worse and charged more for it, what a laugh
thanks for the great video though
Wow I thought my XC40 Recharge is inefficient at 2.9 miles/kWh, but this Lexus POS is a disaster.
Maybe Toyota could just make a deal with Aptera and give them 50+ Million USD so they can start production. Then Toyota could build it in license and sell it as "Prius 3W 2024" or so. Prius was a innovative, technologically advanced car back then in 1997 to 2017, but since then, Toyota lost their leadership and seems to have switched to the dark side, even lobbying against EVs - time to catch up and surpass.
They would be far better partnering with an EV brand that actually produces real cars with 4 wheels and 4 doors
@@jamespaul2587like BYD?
When T got in to financial trouble the dreamers and innovators were rebranded as trouble makers and “non-core workers”. Then they were let go. Of course these people went elsewhere and took their ideas with them. Toyota is the rice hull of the crop now. Useful, just not to humans
@theairstig9164 that's one option, there are many other brands also
Lexus could use some of Lucid's tech.
But in China, they have another EV that is a joint development with BYD. They way things are going, it wouldn't surprise me if Toyota ends up as a badge that BYD puts on some of their cars.
Toyota has, and does make some of the best most dependable cars in the world. They could build an incredible EV but as we know they are against that and so they intentionally build half assed electric vehicles. Toyota should just keep making incredible hybrid cars and get us close to 100 miles per gallon.
You've got to wonder whether Toyota are just brazenly incompetent, or spitefully refusing to make a passable EV...
3miles/kWh in a vehicle that size should be worst-cast winter highway speed driving. Not the target for gentle driving...
Loved the snap swap. Flawless, rewind just to see if they were actually at three same location.
Please tell me your opinion on why Toyota is so poor at BEVs and so good at hybrids?! I’d also like to know why they are not making a full BEV Prius, it seems to be a logical next step for them. How can it be that they are losing the race to GMC and their Bolt EV. I’ve also noticed that the new redesigned Tundra has missed the mark too. A v6 turbo engine with a similar setup to Ford with the motor sandwiched between the engine and transmission. Still from what I’ve heard, not really better gas mileage than their old v8 engines, what is happening with Toyota?
If they continue to make this for 4 yr, maybe it could be a good used car deal 3 years after that, 2031? Prob more so for bz4x.
Would sir care for an Astra exclamation mark
That glovebox is not new. My 2018 Cadillac CT6 has the same center console that opens from both directions. Nothing new here...
You both made a very good video. But I do know a person who I could recommend this to. I can go and recommend this vehicle to the people who thought that this was a good idea for a car. I think a good rule of thumb for them to follow from now on is they should have to drive it first for a while before they present it to the public. Maybe then they could be able to know how to make a better electric car. But that is just my opinion
The maths to build a good-handling well-balanced and quiet car have been open knowledge for decades. Toyota engineers know how to build such a car; we can only assume they’re not being allowed to for some reason we’ll probably read in a suicide note some day.
The car reminds me of the Cadillac Cimarron a Chevy dressed like a caddy. Hopefully their next attempt will be better
Those fender blackouts… make it look like it’s driving on 10in wheels!!!!
"Cornering is reminiscent of the McLaren MP4/4..."
I feel like whomever designed the Lexus Toyobaru thriplets did so with contempt for EVs. The more I watch this, the more I feel like the car was designed to make people not want it, so they'll go buy the hybrid models instead.
The seeds of self-destruction continue to be sown by these OEMs.
It’s a compliance car. Now they don’t have to pay Tesla for those credits.
I wish to know was it ever drone in the background through your audio or was that the real sound in the car which is unusual for your clips in itself the drone in the background that may have been the reason you were more annoyed than anything else, but I will say The vehicle is reminding me of hi-fi in China specifically hi-fi Y.
But I will come back to the sound in the cabin somewhat on Lexus, not something Lexus water flat, or should’ve let through after the LFA
this is what you get when you don't listen to the market and add more fluff. for years people want an affordable car in the 25k range. no one care about 3 seconds 0-60, 4 wheel drive, self driving, luxury feel material. make a car a vehicle again not a home.
Wow.. what a P.O.S.! I would not expect that from a 70 kilodollar car - ouch! Glad I got a Bolt coming instead!
I do not think the title ( Lexus makes the Toyota look worse?) of this piece is what Nikki and her side- kick intended because it is positive for the Lexus so in comparison the Toyota is not so good?
Brava! Great video, SO honest. That monstrosity should not exist.
How can Toyota/Lexus get away with such a low miles per kWh when cars over 10 years old are capable of doing over twice the efficiency with ease.
There is a Subaru version of this running around town and I shake my head every time I see it. Whyyy do people buy these?
Don't tell me this car was supplied by the manufacturer?
So this car is minding you as if you're in kindergarten!
You'd think the IVI / infotainment would have properly integrated carplay etc. since Toyota are collaboratively working with Automotive Grade Linux.
That is hilarious. Love it guys. Toyota, you've done it again.
Toyota does not want people to buy electric cars. I assume this is why they make horrid electric cars.
Fair conclusion?
My 2003 Mercedes C230 had that dual lid in the middle console. So, this really is nothing new
The car to drive you back to ice. It’s a shame for such a great brand to produce such a poor effort.
Appreciate your honesty, but sooner or later Toyota will just stop giving you press cars.
It looks uglier than the BZ4X. The BZ4X but worst. This BZ4X, you load it up with goodies and the range goes down.
This car will probably make the typical Lexus SUV royalists who know nothing about driving and cars very proud of owning one.
I wish that this surprises me; but it really doesn't the busy forks is a pig, the subaru version is worse and this is a pig tarted up. Toyota really should have called it the Toyota PAPOS, for passive-aggressive piece of .
I don’t think Toyota is going to give you any more cars to review.
Not a good car I believe but it’s a pretty colour. 🤷♀️
So its the RX4xxH and thr Highlander Hybrid all over again. I can personally speak this same issue with 2008 HiHy and 2010 RX450h. The HiHy had smooth power and felt waaay better on the twisties of Hwy2 and 20. Granted, the RX450 feels underpowered but smaller... discovered that the AWD of the RX450 was basically imaginary, no matter which drive mode, hybrid-pedal touch acceleration and deceleration. Its almost like the AWD system is utilized much differently (if hardly at all) than the one on the HiHy.
So yeah, for a company that I've driven & loved for decades now, its kinda sad.
Pleae don't ruin whatever the EV Supra becomes. #tunanocrust
While driving, you go over the line, and into the lane on the right. A lot.
The door handle thing on the inside is fot the moment power loss. So you can still open the doors from the inside. 😊
But then why bother with the electronic popper? What's wrong with a good old-fashioned mechanical latch release ... especially if you need that mechanism anyhow?
We wouldn’t accept someone selling houses like,
“This property comes equipped with a self boiling hot water faucet & an artificial grass lawn”
“Yea but why is there a massive structural crack down the side wall & 6 roof tiles missing?”
Toyota today is not the Toyota so many fell in love with from decades ago. I do believe their leadership has failed. Aiko Toyoda and others are to blame.
I believe Toyota needs a ground up examination of their company culture. I do fear they have become like many large legacy builders that are bogged down in red tape and out of touch.
I know Musk can be an a--hole, but the Tesla and SpaceX organizations have remained some of the least red tape and it seems they are encouraged to keep leadership as horizontal as possible.
I know there are brand loyalist out there, but I hope they change their ways. Loyalty gets abused by corporations.
5:47 hey nikki.... im tryin to prevent that weird steering in the game im making from scratch on roblox and no im not advertising but i DO know what your talking about stability wise. Kinda scary tbh to imagine its unstable under throttle. That slightly worries me
I bought this car. And these two no hopes are talking bolocks. Do not listen
Thank you, Nikki and Kate for reviewing this turd of a car. Toyota, Toyoda, and Lexus should be very embarrassed about their poor electric vehicle offerings.
Everything about this E-TNG platform does not leave me Engaged 😅
Sorry Nikki
It’s almost like they don’t want people to buy it. Hmmmmm!
So, to recap, you loved this car😅😊
Toyota working hard to convince loyalists that EVs are not worth