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The Panasonic S9 is Small, Pretty, and Utterly Baffling

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    The Panasonic Lumix S9 is the most affordable option for photographers and videographers looking to get into the full-frame L-Mount. The body is incredibly small but still boasts nice specs. Sacrifices needed to be made though, and we were concerned there might be a few too many. Check out our review from the streets of Osaka and Kyoto to find out if this is the right camera for you!
    Disclosure: Panasonic provided PetaPixel with travel and accommodations for the purposes of this video. It had no input on content and all opinions shared are those of PetaPixel.
    Rental equipment provided by The Camera Store:
    0:00 - Intro
    1:57 - Design and controls
    4:04 - Sensor
    6:51 - Sample Images
    8:52 - LUTs for photography
    13:25 - Video
    20:22 - How it compares
    21:45 - Who is it for?
    #lumixs9 #panasonics9
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  • @dzeng
    @dzeng 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +680

    I'm not the target audience for the S9, but I can watch Chris and Jordan review a slice of bread for 15 minutes.

    • @denblendaman-826
      @denblendaman-826 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Let's hope they slice a bread with S9 next time

    • @bryankeise9005
      @bryankeise9005 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      In the same club 😂😂

    • @seantomlinson3320
      @seantomlinson3320 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Ha. I feel the same way. they’re so good.

    • @pabloherman8836
      @pabloherman8836 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Chris is wearing a hand strap!?

    • @Propaganda_Films
      @Propaganda_Films 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Same here. My next purchase will be a Panasonic microwave, not S9, but I'm just enjoying watching every Chris and Jordan's camera gear reviews.

  • @MrFooFighter13
    @MrFooFighter13 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +182

    19:32 Look it's Lok! Absolute legend.

    • @misterfilmguy
      @misterfilmguy 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      Definitely. Happy to see him and Kai back together recently

    • @topg2820
      @topg2820 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      Lok it's Lut 😜

    • @henrahmagix
      @henrahmagix 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      8:03 Hi Lok! in the back there!

    • @bigd7696
      @bigd7696 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The man should do voice work, British James Earl Jones.

  • @Lunarmech
    @Lunarmech 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +283

    Wow, cold shoe, no shutter, no evf, heavy banding. Panasonic were so close to getting this thing right but the fumbled it imo. And in ways that can't be fixed in firmware....I went from excited to not caring so fast. I guess I'm not the target market for this thing...

    • @B9scrambler
      @B9scrambler 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      I feel the same. So close, but not quite there...

    • @rizkytp
      @rizkytp 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I feel the same 😢

    • @mattmaddox9367
      @mattmaddox9367 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      The L mount street beast remains elusive.

    • @TheA4mfilms
      @TheA4mfilms 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      Good god so many deal breakers. What was in theory a system seller and would sell like gang busters , is now a crippled mess. I was hovering over the buy button till I saw this. Utterly baffled. Ready to sell my a7c but even the x100vi is better all round performer. Sad. I looooove the look of Panasonic files.

    • @sergeyzakharov7326
      @sergeyzakharov7326 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      S9 would be such an amazing camera for adopting manual lenses if there were a mechanical shutter

  • @MicaelWidell
    @MicaelWidell 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +196

    Looks like a giant Panasonic GM-1. I wish they had made an updated GM-1 or GM-5 instead for micro four thirds - on that sensor size and with those lenses, compactness can truly be achieved.

    • @robojimtv
      @robojimtv 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      I think the problem is it wouldn't be that much cheaper as an M43 and thus harder to sell. Would you pay 800 for this camera in M43? It seems designed for the cell phone crowd anyway.

    • @RhettThompsonFilm
      @RhettThompsonFilm 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Always a critic, who knows! Maybe a GM-1 camera is next!

    • @OchaFauzan01
      @OchaFauzan01 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      ​@@robojimtvbro i'd even heist a bank if they release a new GM5, a compact MFT with tilting screen and EVF. With 20mp MFT and all the latest tech they have, it would be a beast of a street photography camera. Slap it with a 300mm short reflex lens and you can pretend you are a secret agent.

    • @CallMeRabbitzUSVI
      @CallMeRabbitzUSVI 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      ​@@robojimtvm43 sensors are much cheaper to produce than full frame sensors since its 1/4 the size. Plus it requires less power meaning lighter battery and with a much smaller body you can save more on materials making it an awesome travel camera

    • @funkmon
      @funkmon 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      ​@@robojimtvYes. People pay 500 bucks for the GM5 now. I would pay 1400 for this on micro four thirds

  • @amthemusic7632
    @amthemusic7632 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +147

    23:04 looking at the imaginary view finder had me crying!!!! Benj is funny!

    • @fromia1
      @fromia1 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2


    • @benjhaisch
      @benjhaisch 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

      The amount of times that I did that unironically on this trip was… significant ;)

    • @belowaverage7539
      @belowaverage7539 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      that fed up hand wave was the cherry on top XD

    • @amthemusic7632
      @amthemusic7632 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@benjhaisch lol I can imagine but we’ll see what happens in the future! I believe that they will drop a S9R with a view fonder one day. If I’m correct Lumix holds the patent for ND filters in mirrorless cameras and hasn’t resealed one yet. I’m confident they know how to work with that space of a body. They just chose not to Do that as to compete with their next generation of S1 series cameras.

  • @MikeRinz
    @MikeRinz 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    I'd rather have a feature rich 4:3 camera than a severely crippled full frame one.

  • @robert_may
    @robert_may 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +93

    Woof, electronic shutter only with the S5II sensor speed is certainly a choice. This feels like a fairly weird competitor to the Sigma fp.

    • @MrWiseinheart
      @MrWiseinheart 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Good way of putting it. 👍

    • @ChrisWhittenMusic
      @ChrisWhittenMusic 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@MrWiseinheartAt least the Sigma has an accessory EVF. Mine shoots excellent stills and video. Wouldn’t trade it for this.

    • @MrWiseinheart
      @MrWiseinheart 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@ChrisWhittenMusic true, plus it's actually smaller too right?, and since the fp L came out, the previous model can be had for fairly cheap.

    • @robert_may
      @robert_may 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@MrWiseinheart Yeah and weather-sealed too. There's something oddly beautiful about the fp too - it's quirky and cool, and often overlooked. A future fp model with a stacked sensor and a flippy screen would get me even more excited 🤤

    • @gioponti6359
      @gioponti6359 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@robert_mayi think there is some modification (inofficial, diy style, of course) that allows to flip the screen on the fp.

  • @shbdhd
    @shbdhd 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +93

    There's a lut to ponder with this new camera

  • @cba20k
    @cba20k 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Whoah guys you said "baffling" in your video title. Say goodbye to those sweet Panasonic trips, you are Lumix-cancelled bros!!

    • @yourmagicfilm
      @yourmagicfilm 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      yep, according to Gerald! Is Baffling worse than STRANGE?!

    • @TravisVarga
      @TravisVarga 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1


  • @kcphotogeek6207
    @kcphotogeek6207 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    The Crushed Retro profile essentially turns the S9 into a Pentax K-01 for video

  • @ivideocouk
    @ivideocouk 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    oh well never mind!

  • @cameralabs
    @cameralabs 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    Nice video guys, just off to download Chris's LUTs now...

    • @AdamJRichardson
      @AdamJRichardson 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Buy him a coffee so he doesn't feel totally ripped off 😁

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@AdamJRichardson hey, I'M the guy who asks for a coffee!

  • @thyncha
    @thyncha 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    They should have just made a gm5 successor. New mft sensor, add ibis, add the luts. Keep the evf and the mechanical shutter. That would be a killer camera because of the smaller lenses. It would be the best compact camera to date.

  • @JM-it7db
    @JM-it7db 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Jordan really nailed this video, shooting handheld with such a small camera. The video looks excellent, regardless of gear.

  • @MrChomiq
    @MrChomiq 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +61

    6:57 - that black and white profile looks amazing.

    • @isinox
      @isinox 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      agreed :)

    • @bigtiger567
      @bigtiger567 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      L monochrome is the key reason I get into Lumix.... Now they have an even better Leica monochrome.....

  • @lomelyo
    @lomelyo 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    Until companies start releasing sub 600 dollars cameras. No one is going to go mainstream. People like to take photos. But they already have 800 dollar phones. The first company to release a compelling 600 dollar camera is going to become huge in the long run. This is not it. Targeting TikTokers with a 1500 camera is just dumb. Absolutely dumb.

    • @OchaFauzan01
      @OchaFauzan01 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      True. That's what made Nikon D3500 (or 3000 series as a whole) legendary. They went big money and they forgot what makes them there.

    • @nickguzman1734
      @nickguzman1734 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I disagree. Tons of tiktok creators are getting the expensive Sony models for their creation... this will be a compelling option, but with some drawbacks

    • @Deetroiter
      @Deetroiter 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@nickguzman1734this is true. People moan about any Leica camera…and these ‘creators’ will blow thousands and thousands of dollars a few times a year buying new Sony cameras, lenses, etc.

    • @lomelyo
      @lomelyo 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@nickguzman1734 wrong, there's not even a ton of successful TikToks/creators to warrant a 1500 video camera that's not geared for professionals. Like the ZV line from Sony. It's also not geared for photographers at all, and is the ugliest camera in the market besides the black so it can't even compete with the X100vi, which is what they should have aimed with a small form factor full frame at 1500 usd.

    • @nickguzman1734
      @nickguzman1734 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @lomelyo you obviously haven't seenthe sheer amount of influencers using the a7s3. It's OK to admit you don't know what you're talking about

  • @Deetroiter
    @Deetroiter 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    I’m still enjoying my LUMIX GX85…it’s more than enough camera for 99% of people whether they’d like to admit it or not. Nice to see Panasonic still creating these beautiful cameras.

    • @-grey
      @-grey 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      I genuinely think 90% of people going for a Fujifilm X100VI or Ricoh GRIII could easily live with the GX85 or GX850 tbh

    • @excalibro8365
      @excalibro8365 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@-grey And if you put pana-leica 15mm lens on it essentially becomes a poor man's leica q

    • @mistermastermind528
      @mistermastermind528 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      No kidding. It has dual dials, evf, hot shoe.

    • @birdboy92
      @birdboy92 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@-grey I thought that until I bought the GX85 and saw the disaster that is the EVF. Returned it very quickly.

    • @Centauri27
      @Centauri27 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Same here! And I also have the GX7, which I love even more from an ergonomics standpoint. How did the entire internet get brainwashed into thinking you need FF for creators, when their output is only TH-cam, TikTok, and Instagram!

  • @GeekyNerdyTechy
    @GeekyNerdyTechy 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    It was an absolute pleasure meeting you guys in person! Great video, guys! Well done. 😎

  • @liaminwales
    @liaminwales 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    It looks super cool, I just want a M43 version at half the price.
    The LUT's option is something we have needed for years, I hope there's an option to add luts via SD card as phone apps tend to brake after a few years.

  • @orangorill
    @orangorill 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Absolutely love the look of this thing, and I'd by it immediately if it had an EVF (and ideally a mech shutter and a tilt screen). Since it doesn't, I'll be picking up a nice green one used in five or so years.

  • @tobiaslofi
    @tobiaslofi 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    21:09 custom grade: the colors look so warm and good! Best colors of the entire video!

  • @drhito
    @drhito 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    Little L Mount bundle of joy.

    • @RyoHazuki224
      @RyoHazuki224 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3


  • @tonyaguilar7779
    @tonyaguilar7779 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank you for bringing this video so fast!

  • @JamieFurlong
    @JamieFurlong 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Big Panasonic fan here, but I'm confused as to who Panasonic consulted when r&ding this camera. You said that Panasonic was aiming at photographers as well as videographers, and serious stills photographers have been crying out for a new compact form factor (GX9, GM5, GX85 etc), but the lack of stills features is almost a write-off. The live LUTs is a great idea, and some of those in-camera profiles looked good, but I'm left puzzled as to who this camera is aimed at. Sadly, it's not me.

    • @cheeeeezewizzz
      @cheeeeezewizzz 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      If they want 1400 dollars from me they can release a gm5ii. Actually it would be 4200. I'd purchase 3. 2 for dual camera shooting, and a third as a backup. I've run my entire photography business, making 200k a year, off GM5s entirely since they released!

    • @JamieFurlong
      @JamieFurlong 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@cheeeeezewizzz I love my GM5. That's why I like Panasonic, it knows how to cram good technology into small cameras.

  • @rogerlee1112
    @rogerlee1112 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    For those coming here after Gerald Undone's video, I'm in the same boat. Just curious how a lot of the top camera channels approached this. Without doubt, I knew Chris and Jordan would NOT hold back. They obviously didn't "fluff" this review. It was pretty brutally honest and not glowing. They even gave 3 different cameras as options over this one. You can tell by most of the comments here that their points against this camera were made clearly.
    I feel Gerald made some VERY solid points as to why we should change the way reviews are handled regarding these embargo/influencer trips for product launches. It really puts the pressure on up and coming reviewers to "toe the line" but I can always count on Chris and Jordan to buck that. They made their bread and butter by NOT toeing the line and just telling it like they see it. Kudos guys! Great job.

  • @chu0nthat
    @chu0nthat 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Always look forward to these TH-camr gathering events. It’s nice seeing all the cameos and guest appearances

  • @Raima888s
    @Raima888s 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So good to see you guys still doing videos. Was sad when I heard they closed down peta pixel. Glad you guys are back. Wishing you all the best :D

    @LUITESLIFE 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Mmmm was pretty excited about it until no EVF.

  • @scotttucker9613
    @scotttucker9613 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +91

    This camera proves for the umpteenth time that companies have NO CLUE what we want from this market segment.

    • @AM23.
      @AM23. 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3


    • @LumixGang
      @LumixGang 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Who is we? I want it

    • @scotttucker9613
      @scotttucker9613 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      @@LumixGang well you are an admitted fanboy by name, so go nuts, bud

    • @Ildskalli
      @Ildskalli 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Ahh, the old “Royal We”. The reality is that Panasonic know what old curmudgeons want, but they also know that said old curmudgeons don’t really buy compact bodies like this one. They buy the big beefy S5, A7IV and R6 ones because they include everything and the kitchen sink. The kids who will consider an S9 have *vastly* different priorities and interests.

    • @hydro5168
      @hydro5168 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@Ildskalli I am one of the people who was excited for this camera, being a Lumix GX series shooter this was right up my alley. No EVF and no mech shutter is a huge dealbreaker for me so idk

  • @bsum8715
    @bsum8715 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +126

    Probably Panasonic would not like this, but I decided to skip the Lumix Livestream and come here instead for the S9 news.

    • @Nearest_Neighbor
      @Nearest_Neighbor 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      They will be devastated.

    • @andreposthumus2072
      @andreposthumus2072 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      They might never recover.

    • @AllThingsFilm1
      @AllThingsFilm1 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2


    • @Dewabarasunderan
      @Dewabarasunderan 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Why would they care exactly?

    • @robmulally
      @robmulally 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Where was the live stream announced?

  • @anjolielanel990
    @anjolielanel990 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I just love the look of the files. Detail that isn’t too much that it’s distracting or irritating. Amazing

  • @TomOhle1
    @TomOhle1 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Jordan I tip my hat to you. You filmed this beautifully and great edit too! Nevermind the camera, really made me want to visit Japan and try some Saki. The color, everything looked great! Hope you guys had a blast.
    One thing that I thought that you maybe was forgotten (with the lack of joystick) is that the lumix bodies have this nice touch to focus as well as a sliding gesture to move the cursor around the screen. I suspect it was ported from the S5ii to the S9. If so, it’s a very nice workaround to the lack of joystick.

  • @patrickmeyer2802
    @patrickmeyer2802 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    As someone who has been shooting with the S1H for a few years and was considering buying an S5IIX for a little while for vlogging and that sort of thing, honestly this looks like a great B-Cam and for if I ever decide to get into vlogging or need something to put in a difficult location.

    • @michaelbell75
      @michaelbell75 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      This thing has a fantastic FF sensor, best in the business IBIS, 6K open gate, 4K open gate, 4K 60P in 4:2:2 10 bit and the fantastic LUT feature from the S5II, all in a compact and lightweight body. This is a filmmaker's dream run and gun/B roll cam. Its a lot more capable than just a "vlogging" cam lol

    • @phoenixprjct
      @phoenixprjct 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I just sold my little GX85 that was my trusty "C- Cam" the last 6 years and will probably scoop up one of these when they hit $1,000 used. Gaining full frame, anamorphic, PDAF and IBIS will be amazing coming from a little m43 camera that was already punching way above its weight.

    • @patrickmeyer2802
      @patrickmeyer2802 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @michaelbell75 No full sized HDMI, difficult to rig form factor, no mechanical heat regulation, no audio monitoring, no hot shoe, etc, etc. Recording modes are one thing, but when there's cameras out there that more than fulfill those requirements already, I'm not gonna take the hit on IO and form factor.

    • @michaelbell75
      @michaelbell75 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@patrickmeyer2802 well that’s why they have the S5IIx. There are plenty of hybrid shooters like myself who couldn’t care less about any of that. We just want an affordable compact and lightweight FF camera with great specs. We finally have one.

    • @patrickmeyer2802
      @patrickmeyer2802 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @michaelbell75 and did I ever say that you had to use it as a B? No, I said that that's what I would be using it for. Some people can absolutely not worry about those issues, but unfortunately in the work I do, I can't.

  • @MicroFourNerds
    @MicroFourNerds 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Wonderful video as ever! Was such a pleasure spending time with you both in Osaka. And I think a very balanced and informative view on Real Time LUT. I think, if people give it a chance it can be so powerful! But Lumix havent helped themselves with the techy naming, and various methods you can come at RTL in-camera

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Loved meeting you finally Emily!!! Big fan of your channel. Hopefully we will run into each other again someday.

  • @Aegea291
    @Aegea291 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This channel is so good, great reviews and presentation

  • @wookchang8852
    @wookchang8852 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you for your evaluation, Chris and Jordan.

  • @Renderprism
    @Renderprism 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    I will go onto every S9 vid and shamelessly preach for a GX9ii, a compact m43 camera with PDAF and the generous Lumix video features (plus all that fun cheap glass), it would be the perfect "carry it just in case" camera.

    • @mauriceschoenen
      @mauriceschoenen 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1


    • @eventhori3on
      @eventhori3on 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      100% they did not read the room! LX100mk3 with PDAF high read out speeds etc etc people would have eaten that up! And a GX camera in the same vain for interchangeable format

    • @cheeeeezewizzz
      @cheeeeezewizzz 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      gm5 succcessor, not the stupid gx9. That thing is too freaking massive.

    • @Democratiser
      @Democratiser 21 วันที่ผ่านมา


    • @mauriceschoenen
      @mauriceschoenen 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cheeeeezewizzz why stupid?

    @CLIFFLIX 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Seems to me that the S9 is priced WAY too close to the S5-II. Just spend a little bit more and get a WAY better camera. I don't get why this camera exists unless it's much cheaper than this. Go S5-II or S5-IIX and forget this S9. Buy the S5-IIX and you will NOT regret it! (buy the S9 and I think you will)

  • @mdino2835
    @mdino2835 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Really enjoyed your review !

  • @hunterholt1249
    @hunterholt1249 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Chris, great photos this review!

  • @chasestanton8304
    @chasestanton8304 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    As someone still rocking a GX8 as a light, easy to pack camera, I was super excited when the rumors for this camera came out. Unfortunately, I don't know if this is going to be the replacement I was hoping for.

    • @eventhori3on
      @eventhori3on 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They missed a trick! New gx or lx camera is required! Full frame for a small pocketable camera is dumb as hell!

  • @thanksmark
    @thanksmark 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I love the LUT features and how in depth it goes.
    I can finally make my own style and shoot in it. And compose my shot for the contrast and exposure of the LUT.
    Very nice

  • @yoyiyoyi7216
    @yoyiyoyi7216 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great to see Jordan back reviewing video functions

  • @happyend6035
    @happyend6035 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Amazing review~! Thank you for telling me so well about the pros and cons!

  • @MuhammadKharismawan
    @MuhammadKharismawan 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    all these small jokes like on 19:20 and 19:47 are what make these videos by the duo always enjoyable even tho quite information dense XD

  • @atarkus8
    @atarkus8 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The camera seems ok, but it has to be said that your street photography and videography is on point! You walked away with some definite keepers there. There's a lot to be said for having a camera compact enough that you can take it everywhere.

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you so much! It’s hard not to feel inspired in Japan!

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thank you so much! It’s hard not to feel inspired in Japan!

  • @l-mount-forum9607
    @l-mount-forum9607 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you for this review!

  • @epambos
    @epambos 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Absolutely excellent review! Jordan has taken the video quality a step above... Well Done!

  • @jovis3084
    @jovis3084 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Lovely preview, but where is the full Zf review, i am lusting for it. Oh and as been said, S9 as mft would be a buy, if it gets an evf

  • @benjhaisch
    @benjhaisch 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    So good exploring with you guys!

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      You were wonderful! Great to meet you and shoot together!

  • @codyscheff
    @codyscheff 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    great shots Taken through this tiny body! well done!

  • @thatguyoverthere115
    @thatguyoverthere115 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Loving the Chris presets! Very crunchy.

  • @MrLogansimmons
    @MrLogansimmons 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The last time I saw a cold shoe was on an ancient Pentax film camera, and it had an x sync socket on the camera body to connect the flash to.

  • @PeterVlutters
    @PeterVlutters 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    Nice Beginner Camera ...
    If it had an EVF and a price of $799

    • @michaelbell75
      @michaelbell75 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Youre joking right? This thing has a fantastic FF sensor, best in the business IBIS, 6K open gate, 4K open gate, 4K 60P in 4:2:2 10 bit and the fantastic LUT feature from the S5II, all in a compact and lightweight body. This is a filmmaker's dream run and gun/B roll cam. The Sony fanboys are so mad right now lol

    • @PeterVlutters
      @PeterVlutters 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @michaelbell75 you must be mad by insinuating that everbody whonis critical on camera is Sony Fanboy... (bad case of Projection on your behalve🧠)
      Been a Lumix Photographer since 2015 and will stay that but when I buy a new Lunix not an S9....I llove tge looks love the size but... Like the Idea with LUTs....
      But no EVF is a NO GO for me

    • @michaelbell75
      @michaelbell75 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@PeterVlutters Cinema cameras dont have EVFs, you are clearly not a filmmaker. Buy an S5II.

    • @pringleboat
      @pringleboat 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@michaelbell75 MODERN cinema cameras dont have EVFs, and a ton of professionals still use them, they just dont come with the camera anymore lol. And yeah, I'd buy any other brand camera over this one because ANY of them would be better for $1,500. I love Panny but this release sucks...

    • @michaelbell75
      @michaelbell75 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pringleboat really? Who else makes a compact and lightweight FF sensor camera with excellent IBIS, 6K open gate, 4K 60p in 4:2:2 10 bit with advanced features like waveform and vectorscope for $1,500? I’ll wait….

  • @exploresouthwest
    @exploresouthwest 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I love the option for small rangefinder sized cameras as a backup to a DSLR brick, even if I have t give up some features. I remember the tiny Lumix GM1. So awesome, so convenient for a 2nd camera.

  • @Channel-xx8qt
    @Channel-xx8qt 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    sensor FF with IBIS in small compact body, amazing.
    LUT lumix against Fuji film simulation

  • @asrieljaksa1996
    @asrieljaksa1996 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The cameos from @whoismatt have me rolling 🤣👏🏻 LOL

  • @stevewhiteley9249
    @stevewhiteley9249 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The content you made with it all looked really nice. However, I think it's really expensive for what it is and it lacks the kind of controls I'd want as a photographer. I'm not sure whether there are small form factor lenses for this system in the same way as on M43 from Panasonic and Olympus. Nice review, thanks and you've save me from wasting any more time thinking about this model.

  • @charliewaterman816
    @charliewaterman816 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great to see different options coming out. Not for me, but happy to see companies looking in different directions! :)

  • @fellowcitizen
    @fellowcitizen 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    17:00 Don't forget that the Sigma fp L introduced the Crop-Zoom with twenty-six increments of the 61mp sensor -- which allows for 5x or so on HD, as I recall. I'm very pleased to see this on Lumix -- especially when a high-resolution camera with mechanical shutter comes through. Having said that, I loved the GM5 and the X100, and this goes to the next level in L-mount.

  • @lionheart4424
    @lionheart4424 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Seems like the S9 is to the S5ii what the X-T50 is to the X-T5.
    Also we have another stab at Fuji but this time in the "Film Simulations" and "recipes" area.
    Oh, and I am not sure if Chris' Neopan 640 is actually good, or if it's enhanced by Jordan's looks.

  • @kiyotoshiyamauchi7618
    @kiyotoshiyamauchi7618 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Perfect pronunciation of Kyoto. I thank you as a Japanese native. 🙏 and thank you for your review as always super informative!

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I can’t speak Japanese very well unfortunately but I can certainly pronounce it. I even named my middle son Ryuma which as you know, is a tricky one.

    • @rsmith02
      @rsmith02 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Which time? He said it different ways at different spots in the video.

  • @Angelo_Botta
    @Angelo_Botta 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you for the honest review.

  • @kyleledotnet
    @kyleledotnet 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I wonder if they will use this same body for M4/3 version with G9ii specs. At least I hope they will...

  • @ContraGrain
    @ContraGrain 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    No EVF is breaks the deal for me. Hopefully Panasonic will make and S9ii or S9EVF sooner rather than later because I would instantly buy that.
    That being said Lumix Lab is going to absolutely revolutionize LUTs. I’m super excited for this.

  • @RyoHazuki224
    @RyoHazuki224 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    19:20 I can see this for TH-camrs as well as tiktokers and instagrammers. Not every youtuber wants to spend the time color grading their footage in post, some just want to get their videos or vlogs out as soon as possible. Same with the photo LUTs, I can imagine someone who has a ton of lightroom presets that they edit with and they'll export the JPGs after, but I can see someone just using those LUTs on the fly and just eliminating the need to edit the shots later. It also helps people to get the shot in camera more often, because how many times do we shoot, find that something is under- or over-exposed and we just say "we'll fix it in post", well if we shoot with our color grades applied already, we can see the results right away.
    No, its not for professionals, the people getting this camera are just casual, fun shooters. They aren't looking for redundancy or monitoring their audio (though, I cant imagine the onboard mic on that camera being very good, so thats a bit of a letdown that they didn't have a hotshoe and give it a Sony-like option for various good microphones). I see this as a pretty neat camera for travelers and vloggers, parents who might want a bit more of a robust camera than their phones. Fun times.

    • @michaelbell75
      @michaelbell75 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Youre joking right? This thing has a fantastic FF sensor, best in the business IBIS, 6K open gate, 4K open gate, 4K 60P in 4:2:2 10 bit and the fantastic LUT feature from the S5II, all in a compact and lightweight body. This is a filmmaker's dream run and gun/B roll cam. Not everyone who shoots video is a "tiktoker". You are clearly not a filmmaker and have no idea what you are talking about.

    • @YaYousef5
      @YaYousef5 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      TikTok/Instagram influencers are using their phones. No one under the age of 30 is going to deal with having to take pictures, take it out of an SD card, edit it in Lightroom, export it then upload it to their phone to get it on there. They can do it five seconds on their phone.

    • @RyoHazuki224
      @RyoHazuki224 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@michaelbell75 You're right, I'm not a filmmaker. Its just that when I see things like what looks like the easiest to use app transfer tool of any major camera brand out there, I instantly think that they are going strait for the quick creator market, the "influencers." The ones that shoot and upload within moments. I dont consider that market of creators as "filmmakers" because even though this camera has a lot of features like you mentioned, its lacking a lot of things I would expect a serious filmmaker would want at the bare minimum, such as audio monitoring for one thing. Does it even have a video output if someone wants to use an external monitor?
      I wasnt trying to downplay the capabilities of this camera, I was just saying its aimed at a certain market, not exactly for actual pro's because of its limitations.

    • @cheeeeezewizzz
      @cheeeeezewizzz 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Almost nobody who actually makes a living with video color grades haha. It takes way too freaking long. So I guess this feature is neat if you can load up some options. Gotta try on my s5iix, a far superior camera in every way.

    • @RyoHazuki224
      @RyoHazuki224 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@YaYousef5 well thats just the thing, with this camera you dont have to do all that to get all the footage off it, thats why they focused on having a robust app for data transfer.

  • @Poorgeniu5
    @Poorgeniu5 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    23:00 Benj at the end sorely misses his EVF. 😂

  • @stampscapes
    @stampscapes 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great review. Love the look of the S9.

  • @joshuamontgomery0
    @joshuamontgomery0 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Matt and Benj in the background the whole time haha

  • @3BMEP
    @3BMEP 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Always a joy to see you guys!

  • @davidzhorvath
    @davidzhorvath 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Incredible how much the Kyoto / Japan backdrop adds to everything. GREAT video as always.

  • @Yaperture
    @Yaperture 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So great seeing you guys! Great video.

  • @TomCalton
    @TomCalton 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Great video as always guys. It was also such a pleasure meeting you both on the trip. Looking forward to the next time we meet 😁

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I loved your video you Badass Mother Photographer! Can’t wait to get to spend more time with you this year. All the best until I see you again soon.

  • @tofu042
    @tofu042 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I hope this will push Sony a bit towards a RX3

    • @rmccorma
      @rmccorma 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      or at the minimum a firmware update for the RX1 lol

    • @tofu042
      @tofu042 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rmccorma we can still dream

  • @gbye007
    @gbye007 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very comprehensive review for a launch video. I can't see how you'd make it any better. Well done. You've put lots of work into this, and not just sat around in the hotel lobby.

  • @Animatedron
    @Animatedron 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    @19:58 Interesting erm billboard there. 😂

  • @glennsak
    @glennsak 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This camera could've been something special. The lack of an EVF and lack of mechanical shutter is just sad.

  • @ValueTech
    @ValueTech 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    It was a pleasure to see you guys again :)

  • @ourhouseuk
    @ourhouseuk 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Please tell Jordan to make a how to mix sound video then force every other content creator to watch it. It’s so nice to hear music that doesn’t make me want to smash my head into a wall because it’s so much louder than speaking volume. Good job.

  • @tomaszstramel3594
    @tomaszstramel3594 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Footage and images came out great!

  • @SMGJohn
    @SMGJohn 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Its ironic how crippled this thing is because of the large sensor.
    It would been brilliant as a M43 camera.

    • @edvelfilms
      @edvelfilms 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I'm pretty sure, the next is a MFT camera. Look at the timeline from the recent cameras
      S5 > GH6 > S5II/X > G9II > S9 > ¿Next is GX10?
      They dance between MFT and FF sensor with their releases. So I'm pretty sure it will be a MFT, but not sure if it's gonna be a GX or a GH. There's potential and demand for a GX10 or GH6II, both with PDAF and killer stab.

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Rumours all strongly suggest G100M2 to be the next camera that will use the G9M2 sensor with PDAF and open gate mode.
      So far the rumours have all been correct about the S9 and its awful 26mm lens also the compact zoom lens. So who knows? The G100 is definitely a camera that could use some redemption.

    • @edvelfilms
      @edvelfilms 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SMGJohn I would rather get a LX100 Mark 3 than that... but well.

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well you are in luck, cause that was DEFINITELY confirmed to be arriving but first as a Leica exclusive, and then we will get LX100M3, I am definitely pre-ordering one.

    • @edvelfilms
      @edvelfilms 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SMGJohn I don't know what you mean with Leica exclusive.

  • @jeejbeej
    @jeejbeej 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    Why the hell is it not M43? Who wants a compact, not very ergonomic camera with massive full-frame lenses?
    The LUT idea is great, doing what Fuji should have been doing: allowing people to create and share film simulations easily.

    • @mauriceschoenen
      @mauriceschoenen 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Exactly! And 4:3 Open Gate is even better then 3:2 for cropping.

    • @cyrfung
      @cyrfung 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      With this camera looks like Panasonic really think the M43 segment is dead and there is no hope for a M43 G or GX anymore :-(

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      G100M2 is apparently gonna come with the G9M2 sensor, thats brilliant news if it appears.
      M43 is underrated as heck.

    • @edvelfilms
      @edvelfilms 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cyrfung there's a spot yet for a new GX camera with the same G9II sensor.
      Look at the timeline from Lumix.
      S5 > GH6 > S5II/X > G9II > S9 > ¿GX10?

    • @JennyDarukat
      @JennyDarukat 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      To me this would be primarily a platform for adapting compact rangefinder mount glass tbh, and for that it seems quite fun. Lenses like the Voigtländer 40 1.4.
      But also, come on where's the compact MFT gear seriously it's such a good ecosystem for compact autofocus lenses 😮‍💨

  • @user-kc7gd7ux6r
    @user-kc7gd7ux6r 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    the sample photo are so good!

  • @blakemartin9445
    @blakemartin9445 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nice to see you guys at Portland’s Japanese Garden!

  • @shang-hsienyang1284
    @shang-hsienyang1284 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Apparently this is not your workhorse camera. However, for people like me who already have more than 20 cameras, this is my ideal street photography camera, or for attending events as a guest, or for trips visiting cities and indoor attractions. I am buying this.

    • @kevinloy6435
      @kevinloy6435 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Small market

  • @Sea0fTime
    @Sea0fTime 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    If this cost $600 USD I might actually consider it.

    • @DarkPa1adin
      @DarkPa1adin 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      wait for the price to drop. I think it can hit $1200-1300 range after a year

    • @castielvargastv7931
      @castielvargastv7931 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They should pay you to take it.. god people these days...

    • @YaYousef5
      @YaYousef5 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Give it two years. Panasonic cameras depreciate crazy compared to other camera brands. I don't know who's actually going to use this camera except for the adluencers who are going to be paid to use it in their TH-cam videos.

    • @castielvargastv7931
      @castielvargastv7931 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@YaYousef5 such a crazy comment.. its the same audience as for the sony z cameras or the sony a7 c and they sell well. Gh6 and s52 still cost release price where i live. You clearly have no clue about Panasonic cameras.

    • @Sea0fTime
      @Sea0fTime 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@YaYousef5 Yeah, I plan on watching the used markets for one. I've got an S1R & S1 and I'd like to add a compact camera to my L-Mount system, but this thing is way overpriced for what it offers. I'd rather pick up a used Leica CL digital for that price. Almost none of the choice they made on this thing make sense. No good for photographers with no mechanical shutter without having a fast enough sensor read to compensate for it, no hotshoe so no flash photography, poor autofocus controls, no headphone jack, mini hdmi, short video recording ability. The more I think about it, it isn't even worth $600. They seem to think people will pay that just because it is a full frame sensor when m43 is way more than sufficient for anything this would be used for.

  • @tt-ew7rx
    @tt-ew7rx 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I like Chris' horns in the thumbnail.

  • @bigbarkingdog2010
    @bigbarkingdog2010 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Audio pricing is helpful. thank you.

  • @mrfroopy
    @mrfroopy 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    This camera is way too expensive for the fundamental faults it has. This should be 800 dollars with its lack of features. No headphone jack, hot shoe or EVF make it a joke at this price point. They could have made it the basically same size with these features if they want to charge that. This camera is a mistake in positioning.

    • @TheCreativeContentHub
      @TheCreativeContentHub 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed 700 is a reasonable price but….inflation🙄

  • @cammackey
    @cammackey 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    That LUT joke was low key genius.

    • @heiner71
      @heiner71 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That was a Jordan dad joke.

  • @Ildskalli
    @Ildskalli 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What can I say, I really want one after seeing the incredible photos and footage ❤️

  • @ariliquin
    @ariliquin 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love the LUT approach, hope we get better colour tools in all cameras

  • @yash_kambli
    @yash_kambli 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Nikon z5 1100$ (body only): better grip, EVF, mech shutter, much brighter 28mm pancake lens
    Lumix s9 1500$ : missing everything mentioned above
    So apart from being a compact I don't see any reason to purchase this.

    • @iammz81
      @iammz81 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah, it's crap.

    • @ashsii
      @ashsii 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      z5 is going for a different market going photography focus. it has a huge 1.7 crop at 4k video.
      The s9 is mainly a video/vlog camera which usually doesn't have an evf or mech shutter (fx3 or zve1 for example). The s9's faults are elsewhere.

    • @_digital_diaries
      @_digital_diaries 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same here

  • @PieterBreda
    @PieterBreda 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    No EVF is a deal-breaker for me.

    • @isinox
      @isinox 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      at the same time I am looking at people who shoot with the X100V or VI and they always use the screen, I don't understand it, but I am not the target i guess...

    • @shingvictor
      @shingvictor 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Same here and no mechanical shutter…..

    • @michaelbell75
      @michaelbell75 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is a video-centric camera. Get the S5II if you want an EVF

    • @cheeeeezewizzz
      @cheeeeezewizzz 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@michaelbell75 Your stupidity boggles the mind.

    • @nickguzman1734
      @nickguzman1734 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@isinox in my opinion, the issue isn't that there's no evf, it's that these kinds of cameras absolutely need an oled screen. This lcd doesn't cut it in daylight

  • @juliussternfeld428
    @juliussternfeld428 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The video looks really excellent, better than usual in my opinion. Maybe Jordans new camera? Or did you use other lenses than usual? Looks different.

  • @Jupiter2ignite
    @Jupiter2ignite 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Man the audio sounds fantastic in this video.

  • @heyheyhey520
    @heyheyhey520 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Wait…how did Chris sleep? This video is missing an important part of the press trip with Chris and Jordan 🙁 who is Matt and benj were so funny, thanks for being willing to help

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I did not sleep well, but definitely better than Germany.

    • @heyheyhey520
      @heyheyhey520 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@niccollsvideo Now I can sleep at night 😁Keep up the great work. It’s been hectic recently

  • @KK-fi6ms
    @KK-fi6ms 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    I don't understand this weird new obsession of camera manufacturers of adding pink, purple, blue colors, but not a classic chrome + black option.

    • @yashomb
      @yashomb 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      because bright colors are trendy among the influencer generation. in few years those colors will become the new classic.

    • @JayBakshi
      @JayBakshi 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      The thing about classic is not that they are appreciated in few years, it’s that timelessness of it. Classicchrome, black and even silver are just simply timeless, pleasant to eyes and hence making the people in front of lens be at ease when getting clicked. The brighter colors elicit some emotion, which is hard to control when doing videography.

    • @romanpul
      @romanpul 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nikon be like hold my Zfc

    • @Tigerex966
      @Tigerex966 21 วันที่ผ่านมา


  • @strawberry7799a
    @strawberry7799a 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    16:34 The mom and baby playing is so cute!

  • @tablameister
    @tablameister 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the great review. Including a mic jack but omitting a headphone jack seems like an incredible oversight. Hopefully, they can offer a firmware upgrade and offer audio monitoring via the USB port. I hope they come out with a similar camera in micro 4/3 as a successor to the GM1.