I actually had a chance to try it out before ya made the vid, i can definitely vouch for ya, this shit makes the blow off valve work sooooooooooooooo much better, throttle response feels way more responsive, also, for anybody wanting to try this, reset your ecu by disconnecting the negative battery terminal for 15 mins, drive regularly for about 15-20km, and that'll give the car a nice little refresh and it will learn your new driving data. My car runs very, very smooth now.
Yeah I made this video a few months ago and after driving with it for a while it’s sooo much better. No more annoying blow off valve noise every time I let off the throttle and I get more turbo flutter. It also felt a little faster but not sure if it actually is or not
@@IvanJrFOST I believe turbo flutter is back pressure going back to the turbine, don't think it would hurt it depending how much back pressure but longivity of the turbo might put stress on the bearings
Nice video. I've ran the vacuum off the manifold with a TurboSmart 50/50 for about a year now. A little bit of flutter when under vacuum or light driving instead of it going off all the time. Well worth it if you have an aftermarket BOV. It may be necessary to adjust the BOV's spring preload a little to make sure it is still shut at idle and goes off how you like it.
@@BLK_GOD just cause the process is being co trolled by the ecu. You'll get the blow off constantly if you don't by pass it and run directly from the symposer which is a true vaccume source.
I just did the vacuum hose while i was cleaning the intake valves, before replacing the intake manifold with the Mountune one. It has a "bunghole" with a little hex plug to tap into with a barb. I added some polyester wrap to the hose so it looks like the other hoses in the engine bay, i like the OEM+ look now i am waiting for the ecu to reset by disconnecting the battery.
Just a thought, but wouldn't you want the hoses to be resistant to oil blowby? Silicone, while fine with coolant, isn't the best for oil. Ofc you could get around this by having a catch can, but otherwise keep in mind that there will be some oil contact with the vaccum hose.
So you prefer thd compressor surge sound over the bov whoosh sound? Bc you're getting a sound no matter which way you do it. Compressor surge is unhealthy for your turbo while the bov whoosh is healthy for the turbo. But to each it their own.
Wrong , compressor surge under load is bad for your turbo, Since the flutter here is under no boost it’s poses no real risk to the turbine. If you fluttered after a full boost pull it would be bad, but this is under vacuum
I just did this to Mine. I do see that it holds boost better like you explained at the end. I barely hear the bov unless Im in full boost. When im in the 1 digits i hear The slightest bit maybe i gotta adjust the bov? Running the turbosmart 50/50
If anyone can help me id appreciate it, I have turbo smart, I installed everything like the tutorial stated but sitting in idle my rpm’s move 200-500 rpms and when I’m in idle and rev it , it sits at 4k rpm’s and doesn’t go down for like a minute.
I did this ab a week ago I have a turbo smart bov and now I can hardly hear my bov hard to tell in the video but under no or really light boost does your bov make more of a pft noise just wondering on how I could meet right in the middle to get it to vent to the point of me being able to hear it you think I just need to loosen up my bov a bit
Aye dude. What's the exact model of your DV+? I've had mine for a month or so and played around with adjustments but I'm not noticing a difference from the factory bov.. Any chance you can help me out incase I'm doing something wrong? Or maybe just bought the wrong one lol
So I did this mod and it sounds really good, I’m just concerned of the reliability of it. I drive around 70 miles everyday just about for work. Don’t know if I should keep it or take it off and put it back to normal.
Calib Linex I’ve had it for several thousand miles and haven’t had any issues. I don’t think there are any negative effects if you don’t purposely make the flutter noise all the time
Nickjoenap cool, I’ll probably keep it for a while as long as I don’t see issues. And it’s tempting to make it flutter all the time lmao sounds so good
This might be me just talking out of my behind, but I think that if flutter is happening without real positive pressure, it can't be that damaging or anything. I reckon if you had flutter on boost, that is a ton more force on that turbo, but that's not what we're seeing or hearing in this video.. These cars factory have slight flutter already, albeit on barely touching the gas, but it's there. And lets say we do kill the turbo, then we just upgrade it for a big one! Perfectly justifiable! ; )
The flutter would be bad for the turbo if the car had a really tight bov or didn’t have one at all. The flutter only happens under little load and is t really a big deal. Obviously it’s not great for the turbo but it’s not going to cause damage if you don’t abuse it. The real benefit is the bov doesn’t vent when it doesn’t need to and it will supposedly hold a little more boost this way. The stock one is electronically controlled so it releases way to often
@@Nickjoenap okay cool, I just haven’t gotten much flutter from my GFB DV+, did you tighten the set screw all the way then loosen it? How much turns did you loosen yours? I’m also on stock intake right now and full straight pipe so my exhaust is extremely loud. I’m probably going to remove the sound dampening material from my hood as well to get so more noise. Thanks!
Have you happened to have any turbo lag when changing gears aggressively? I'm trying to figure out if it is my GFB DV+ while on true vac source. I'm playing around with loosening it currently. It's very inconsistent but it'll bog down for a good second between gears randomly. I have heard the DV+ is intended to use with the original bypass solenoid is all.
@@Nickjoenap yeah just saw that video actually. Thanks for the quick response, I feel like it's not responding properly to true vac. Think my mech got rid of the factory one 😔
I really like this mod but I do need to know one thing where is that boost pressure going when u let off the throttle and the blow off valve doesn’t go off
It goes through the turbo which makes the flutter sound on the wheel of the turbo. Normally it would be bad for the turbo if it was under high boost pressure but since it’s routed to true vacuum it only does it when it’s under low boost and rpm. It only does this when you are trying to though. With normal driving the bov doesn’t open fully but still lets out the pressure so it’s a lot quieter since you aren’t building as much boost
I’m just seeing this video and I saw my car already came with that mod lol. can I run the car without the hose ? i kinda wanna take it off but idk if it’s okay to just take the hose off and leave it as it is
Don’t know if you did it or not yet but I wouldn’t. Unless you have all of the previous parts of the sound symposer. You could also just take off the house re route the BOV cable to where it was and put a small plug where the hose connects to instead of it having its little nub
What intake do you have, your turbo is so loud, from the video it just looks like k&n filter but i have a green filter and my turbo isnt that loud, im gonna get everything to do the true vac source later this week! great video!
I’m running a Cobb filter, (green filter should be fine) a custom air box, and a bigger metal intake pipe with an after market elbow. I don’t know what brand the pipe is because I bought it used but any aftermarket pipe will help make the turbo louder. Here’s 3 videos that will help make your turbo louder th-cam.com/video/3BB_Blz4Y5k/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/bzg2b6V0Z9E/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/Q4_FDWLKCls/w-d-xo.html
@@Nickjoenap can we get another update I’m really planning on getting it but I heard it’s not the greatest for your turbo but I also really want that flutter
Just so you know I ordered the vacuum line with the link you put and it’s wayyyy to small. So maybe an old link. It was only a $1.00 so no big deal. I was like 5mm does not seem right lol so my bad on my part too 😂
Hey, not sure if you're still active but I did this to my ST and am hardly getting any turbo flutter. There's maybe a tiny tiny bit of flutter but I absolutely cannot hear it over the sound of my engine / exhaust. I still have a stock intake + K&N air filter, but assuming I did everything right, it should still be somewhat close to the volume you showed in this vid. I'm wondering if maybe the BOV is loose? Basically ~2500 rpm or less (no boost) i hear a quieter "pshhh" and sometimes a little flutter, and above 3k rpm / more boost it's just the regular "pshhh".
Intake makes a huge difference, my ST didn’t flutter before but now it flutters slightly with the Cobb intake and BOV I’m about to do this vacuum mod can’t wait to hear it
Andrew Eastman no because it doesn’t flutter when there’s actually boost pushing through it. It only does it at low rpm but if you do it non stop I’m sure it’s not good for it. I’ve never heard of true vacuum causing any problems
ahac technically it’s not good for the turbo but since it’s only set up to happen under little to no load, it doesn’t really have an effect. If there was lots of boost hitting the turbo fan it would be bad but the bov keeps it from doing that
Hey man, you probably don't know the answer to my question, but I wanted to ask anyways or if someone who might of had the same issue can help out, but I did exactly what you did to make the true vacuum source and my bov will not vent. Like even on WOT, full boost, it would not vent. I put it back exactly how it was originally and the bov vents perfectly. Any idea why that could be happening?
The vacuum line from my symposer delete is connected to my BOV. Is there anyway to reroute the lines to do this? Hearing the BOV line go off all the time is annoying.
What bov do you have? If you have one that’s routed that way it shouldn’t need this. This bypasses the electronically controlled way of controlling the bov which sounds like you’ve already done
@@Nickjoenap yeah but the bov goes off constantly regardless of how much boost. Also this is the sound I am trying to get so I guess my only option would be to get rid of the bov.
i just did this, but it still vents allot. I'll be in any gear, barely press the throttle and on release it vents. it in no way flutters like yours while driving
Hey. I just did this today and is it supposed to sound so quiet? I also get no flutter at low rpms. I felt like i did something wrong since my hoses were set up differently than shown in the video
Joseph Medina There’s a chance something could be wrong, just make sure the hoses attach at the same points and you cap it where I did. It’ll still make a pshhh noise when under a decent amount of boost, it’s just a little softer and quieter. The flutter only happens when letting off after building boost in low rpm. Check your boost gauge to make sure you’re building boost and it’s releasing the pressure after letting off
dtfreshh the flutter doesn’t happen a lot. If you rev it with the hood open or build boost and let off the throttle under 2500 rpm in 3rd or higher it flutters. You’ll need at least an aftermarket intake filter with the cover removed to hear it. A full intake will help and removing the sound deadening under the hood helps the flutter be louder too
@@Nickjoenap I see. So, low load flutter is fine. Just as long as the BOV is venting when it should. I'm just worried about breaking my stock turbo. I'm not ready to go Big Turbo just yet. Lmfao
I just did this mod and routed it exactly like you showed in the video. I’m not getting the same flutter that you are. I have a stock intake with a green air filter and a turbo smart blow off valve. Did I do something wrong or is it just because my intake is stock? All I hear is more burbles from my exhaust.
@@Nickjoenap thank you for you’re response! Does your elbow make that much of a noise difference? It looks like you’re intake is stock besides the elbow?
@@hunterstahlheber It seemed to make a little bit of a difference. The intake pipe makes a big difference too. I also removed the black sound deadening from under the hood and that helped hear more turbo noise
Sounds great but could possibly shorten the life of the turbo. We all love the flutter sound but the truth is is that the spooly snails hate it. Is it still holding up okay Nickjoenap?
@@IvanJrFOST Both, this should be better for hard driving from what I understand. The bov and wastegate now work off of the real measurement of boost, not the electronic signal that the pedal was lifted so it should be more accurate. I do a full throttle pull at least every few days and everything works great. It’ll sound and perform different based on how much boost it was pushing before you let off so it doesn’t flutter from normal driving or pulls
also did you use teflon tape when u put the boost port on the symposer plate? mine wont go in by hand i gotta use a wrench just wanna make sure thats normal? its a steeda kit
ahac not sure if the vacuum line would fit or not I’d ask steeda. You probably don’t need Teflon tape since it’s that tight they probably made it to where it sealed when it’s screwed in
@@Nickjoenap tried it and everything seems to be okay, where is your spring loaded at? all the way closed or open? and when your bov goes off at around 3k-3.5k revs is the pshh really quiet compared to beforee?
I have a 2015 Ford Fusion 2.0t and I have the boomba sound supposer delete and BOV. What size did port you need for the port on the sound Symposer delete kit? (My Boomba kit has a tap already and I would just have to screw in the port) it should work right?
Technically it puts extra stress on the turbo but the way that it’s set up keeps it from fluttering under high load so the cons are next to none. Some people don’t even run bovs on high horsepower cars and they’re fine so this shouldn’t cause any problems
I’m not one to hate on you brotha I do appreciate the video because it was a help but your size on vacuum hose is not right the 1/16th is very very small like not usable small just putting out there man! Love the video thanks!
I've had the turbosmart 50/50 on my car for a few months and I'm looking for other options. It's way to loud even with stiffening the spring, and it blows of constantly. Super annoying. Cool video, I might try this just for fun before I remove the 50/50. Gives me a reason to finally get around to installing my symposer delete.
@@Nickjoenap thanks for the reply man. I have a full intake and mines flutters already but I want it louder lol I don't like bov sound 😅 I prefer flutter sound.
@@Nickjoenap I'm just going through that right now with my recent HKS install. It flutters on low RPMs. Same setup as yours. I just don't want to cause any issues with the turbo.
That problem should not exist if the Ford engineers where given a free hand and support, I’m a license electronic technician and automotive general mechanic for 50 years.
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I actually had a chance to try it out before ya made the vid, i can definitely vouch for ya, this shit makes the blow off valve work sooooooooooooooo much better, throttle response feels way more responsive, also, for anybody wanting to try this, reset your ecu by disconnecting the negative battery terminal for 15 mins, drive regularly for about 15-20km, and that'll give the car a nice little refresh and it will learn your new driving data. My car runs very, very smooth now.
Yeah I made this video a few months ago and after driving with it for a while it’s sooo much better. No more annoying blow off valve noise every time I let off the throttle and I get more turbo flutter. It also felt a little faster but not sure if it actually is or not
Siye Boss yeah but it’s not enough in this situation to do much damage since it will release the pressure if it gets high enough
Please share with us how theoretically this would make your car run smoother lol
But it's that bad for your turbo? I want to know how reliable is that
@@IvanJrFOST I believe turbo flutter is back pressure going back to the turbine, don't think it would hurt it depending how much back pressure but longivity of the turbo might put stress on the bearings
This is literally perfect oh my god why did you not show up in my recommended before!!!
Nice video. I've ran the vacuum off the manifold with a TurboSmart 50/50 for about a year now. A little bit of flutter when under vacuum or light driving instead of it going off all the time. Well worth it if you have an aftermarket BOV. It may be necessary to adjust the BOV's spring preload a little to make sure it is still shut at idle and goes off how you like it.
How much did you adjust
did you have to adjust your turbo smart blah valve
It's cause flutter is kinda bad, but sounds immacukate
Explain why the bov needs to be aftermarket if you are doing this so the bov stops going off non-stop
Like what logic is that lol
@@BLK_GOD just cause the process is being co trolled by the ecu. You'll get the blow off constantly if you don't by pass it and run directly from the symposer which is a true vaccume source.
Duuuuudeee i was not expecting that much flutter!! This is probably the best upgrade i did so far that was this cheap thank you so much!!!
I know! I love it so much! Glad you like it
i did what you said , now my house is clean
What 😂
I just did the mod. Well worth it!!
I just did the vacuum hose while i was cleaning the intake valves, before replacing the intake manifold with the Mountune one. It has a "bunghole" with a little hex plug to tap into with a barb.
I added some polyester wrap to the hose so it looks like the other hoses in the engine bay, i like the OEM+ look now i am waiting for the ecu to reset by disconnecting the battery.
Did this today. Waaay better. The pshhhh was way to much. Now its just enough. And lots of flutterrrr. Thx for video!
Just a thought, but wouldn't you want the hoses to be resistant to oil blowby? Silicone, while fine with coolant, isn't the best for oil. Ofc you could get around this by having a catch can, but otherwise keep in mind that there will be some oil contact with the vaccum hose.
Link is no longer available. What size line do i need. Want to make sure it fits perfectly over the connection points
I switched it and now my boost gauge vacuum # is at 20 lol
Can you run the true vacuum line to the stock component? Or do you have to have an aftermarket BOV?
So you prefer thd compressor surge sound over the bov whoosh sound? Bc you're getting a sound no matter which way you do it. Compressor surge is unhealthy for your turbo while the bov whoosh is healthy for the turbo. But to each it their own.
Wrong , compressor surge under load is bad for your turbo, Since the flutter here is under no boost it’s poses no real risk to the turbine. If you fluttered after a full boost pull it would be bad, but this is under vacuum
Gonna have to try this
I did this and am getting no flutter at all and whistles In negative boost pressures where the bov would normally go crazy in these cars
Great vid, I've got an open induction kit, but a standard recirc valve. Will this be OK with that or is it best to get an uprated recirc valve?
I just did this to Mine. I do see that it holds boost better like you explained at the end. I barely hear the bov unless
Im in full boost. When im in the 1 digits i hear
The slightest bit maybe i gotta adjust the bov? Running the turbosmart 50/50
Really dope video good job with this 🔥
If anyone can help me id appreciate it, I have turbo smart, I installed everything like the tutorial stated but sitting in idle my rpm’s move 200-500 rpms and when I’m in idle and rev it , it sits at 4k rpm’s and doesn’t go down for like a minute.
I did this ab a week ago I have a turbo smart bov and now I can hardly hear my bov hard to tell in the video but under no or really light boost does your bov make more of a pft noise just wondering on how I could meet right in the middle to get it to vent to the point of me being able to hear it you think I just need to loosen up my bov a bit
did you find the solution?
Man thanks for the video. I just did this today and I love it
Did you go to another video to install the sound symposer delete first? Then followed this one?
Where did you get the red hardware in the engine bay from?
eBay
Have the Boomba and Cobb filter but didnt get much of anything for flutter.
can you put another link for the vacuum line
I have a carbon fiber intake piping with there be any change in sound or is it going to be dull
Try this with a dv+ diverter valve. I have one on mine and it flutters so much but I wonder if it’ll be louder with the true vacuum
I’m sure it would flutter more, I want to switch my boomba out for a gfb dv+ adjustable bov but it’s just not high on the priorities list right now
Do you have a video of it?
Aye dude. What's the exact model of your DV+? I've had mine for a month or so and played around with adjustments but I'm not noticing a difference from the factory bov.. Any chance you can help me out incase I'm doing something wrong? Or maybe just bought the wrong one lol
I misspoke in the video. Use 3/16 vacuum line. Here’s the kind I used www.ebay.com/itm/272843681840
If I used 5/32 vacuum would it make a difference?
Tony Nunez I doubt it as long as it fits on the symposer delete. Not 100% sure though
Nickjoenap alrighty thanks
Out of curiousity, do you know what your check engine code at the time of filming was?
That symbol was for Trac control off (sports mode) you hold the esc button behind the shift knob to enable;disable.
Do you ever try it with one by pass valve?
So I did this mod and it sounds really good, I’m just concerned of the reliability of it. I drive around 70 miles everyday just about for work. Don’t know if I should keep it or take it off and put it back to normal.
Calib Linex I’ve had it for several thousand miles and haven’t had any issues. I don’t think there are any negative effects if you don’t purposely make the flutter noise all the time
Nickjoenap cool, I’ll probably keep it for a while as long as I don’t see issues. And it’s tempting to make it flutter all the time lmao sounds so good
This might be me just talking out of my behind, but I think that if flutter is happening without real positive pressure, it can't be that damaging or anything. I reckon if you had flutter on boost, that is a ton more force on that turbo, but that's not what we're seeing or hearing in this video.. These cars factory have slight flutter already, albeit on barely touching the gas, but it's there.
And lets say we do kill the turbo, then we just upgrade it for a big one! Perfectly justifiable! ; )
So what does this really do for the car? What improvements were there besides BOV sounds and also isn’t the flutter bad for turbo haha
The flutter would be bad for the turbo if the car had a really tight bov or didn’t have one at all. The flutter only happens under little load and is t really a big deal. Obviously it’s not great for the turbo but it’s not going to cause damage if you don’t abuse it. The real benefit is the bov doesn’t vent when it doesn’t need to and it will supposedly hold a little more boost this way. The stock one is electronically controlled so it releases way to often
How would this work with a diverter valve? I have the GFB DV+ installed currently with a normal symposer delete. Would this give me more flutter?
Go fast bits recommends leaving it on solenoid control, I had better results with that as well
@@Nickjoenap okay cool, I just haven’t gotten much flutter from my GFB DV+, did you tighten the set screw all the way then loosen it? How much turns did you loosen yours? I’m also on stock intake right now and full straight pipe so my exhaust is extremely loud. I’m probably going to remove the sound dampening material from my hood as well to get so more noise. Thanks!
Mine doesn’t flutter still, what can I change?
Do you think this would be possible to do on a 2016 ford escape. It had the same engine and the engine bay looks set up exactly the same.
If it is the 2.0 turbo then I would assume so
Have you happened to have any turbo lag when changing gears aggressively? I'm trying to figure out if it is my GFB DV+ while on true vac source. I'm playing around with loosening it currently. It's very inconsistent but it'll bog down for a good second between gears randomly.
I have heard the DV+ is intended to use with the original bypass solenoid is all.
Yeah you should route it to the favorite solenoid. I switched to a dv+ and went back to solenoid control
@@Nickjoenap yeah just saw that video actually. Thanks for the quick response, I feel like it's not responding properly to true vac. Think my mech got rid of the factory one 😔
Hey Nick do you think its still worth running a true vac after having it on your car for a while? Debating on doing whether its safe or not.
I really like this mod but I do need to know one thing where is that boost pressure going when u let off the throttle and the blow off valve doesn’t go off
It goes through the turbo which makes the flutter sound on the wheel of the turbo. Normally it would be bad for the turbo if it was under high boost pressure but since it’s routed to true vacuum it only does it when it’s under low boost and rpm. It only does this when you are trying to though. With normal driving the bov doesn’t open fully but still lets out the pressure so it’s a lot quieter since you aren’t building as much boost
So the link that you have in the description is the right one?
Yeah it’s right
Where did you get the red oil dipstick and red hood latch??
Painted them
Where can i get that plug where the hose goes in to symposer delete the one that screws into the symposer delete
Shair Khan I got the vacuum cap at my local auto parts store and the plug for the symposer plate came with it
I’m just seeing this video and I saw my car already came with that mod lol. can I run the car without the hose ? i kinda wanna take it off but idk if it’s okay to just take the hose off and leave it as it is
Don’t know if you did it or not yet but I wouldn’t. Unless you have all of the previous parts of the sound symposer. You could also just take off the house re route the BOV cable to where it was and put a small plug where the hose connects to instead of it having its little nub
Can I still run to a true vacuum source if I'm using a Mountune Recirc Valve? If so, are there any advantages? More or less flutter?
Jason Photography Yes I believe so. It’s supposed to hold boost better and not release pressure so much. Probably more flutter
What intake do you have, your turbo is so loud, from the video it just looks like k&n filter but i have a green filter and my turbo isnt that loud, im gonna get everything to do the true vac source later this week! great video!
I’m running a Cobb filter, (green filter should be fine) a custom air box, and a bigger metal intake pipe with an after market elbow. I don’t know what brand the pipe is because I bought it used but any aftermarket pipe will help make the turbo louder. Here’s 3 videos that will help make your turbo louder th-cam.com/video/3BB_Blz4Y5k/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/bzg2b6V0Z9E/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/Q4_FDWLKCls/w-d-xo.html
Do you have the link to the plate that goes over the symposer? Keep up the killer work btw. Good stuff homie. Cheers!
I got it on eBay but looks like the listing got removed. It’s the CFM performance delete with the port for vacuum if you can find it somewhere else
STEEDA also makes this Symposer Delete that has the boost port. It's available from CJPonyParts for about $35 bucks.
Could I get an update on how your cars been running, any problems, fixes etc
It’s running great. I’ve had no problems and personally think it feels and sounds better
@@Nickjoenap can we get another update I’m really planning on getting it but I heard it’s not the greatest for your turbo but I also really want that flutter
@@cesarvillatorojr9441 there’s been no problems related to this. the flutter doesn’t happen under load so it’s not bad for the turbo
Just so you know I ordered the vacuum line with the link you put and it’s wayyyy to small. So maybe an old link. It was only a $1.00 so no big deal. I was like 5mm does not seem right lol so my bad on my part too 😂
What size did you get that worked ?
@@austinharrell2821 3/16
Yea it’s 3/16 vacuum line but the link was for a too short of line. You need at least 5ft and the link was for 5mm lol
Hey, not sure if you're still active but I did this to my ST and am hardly getting any turbo flutter. There's maybe a tiny tiny bit of flutter but I absolutely cannot hear it over the sound of my engine / exhaust. I still have a stock intake + K&N air filter, but assuming I did everything right, it should still be somewhat close to the volume you showed in this vid. I'm wondering if maybe the BOV is loose? Basically ~2500 rpm or less (no boost) i hear a quieter "pshhh" and sometimes a little flutter, and above 3k rpm / more boost it's just the regular "pshhh".
A tighter bov would help but having an aftermarket intake helps a lot and removing the sound deadening on the hood
Intake makes a huge difference, my ST didn’t flutter before but now it flutters slightly with the Cobb intake and BOV I’m about to do this vacuum mod can’t wait to hear it
@@MinecraftDAB How did it turn out?
Does this damage the turbo like capping off the bpv does
Andrew Eastman no because it doesn’t flutter when there’s actually boost pushing through it. It only does it at low rpm but if you do it non stop I’m sure it’s not good for it. I’ve never heard of true vacuum causing any problems
is the flutter shown in the video bad for the turbo or car? or is this safe to run?
ahac technically it’s not good for the turbo but since it’s only set up to happen under little to no load, it doesn’t really have an effect. If there was lots of boost hitting the turbo fan it would be bad but the bov keeps it from doing that
@@Nickjoenap if you rev it in neutral passed 4-5k rpms does your bov go off then?
ahac yeah
Hey man, nice video! I was wonder where you got your fasteners for your bumper there? I love those
i found them on ebay
I need to do this with my 2.0 Fusion, I have the boomba BOV & BOOMBA sound symposer delete kit on my car currently. Will this turn out any different?
It shouldn’t. Everything should be the same if not similar. Just make sure you have a vacuum port on the symposer delete
Stop modding a fucking fusion. What is wrong with you
Hey man, you probably don't know the answer to my question, but I wanted to ask anyways or if someone who might of had the same issue can help out, but I did exactly what you did to make the true vacuum source and my bov will not vent. Like even on WOT, full boost, it would not vent. I put it back exactly how it was originally and the bov vents perfectly. Any idea why that could be happening?
What bov you running
Yo man what was the issue? I have the exact same issue right now..
Did you mean 3/16” cause that’s all that pops up even in the link you sent??
Chris Warner yeah I meant 3/16 I misspoke in the video
The vacuum line from my symposer delete is connected to my BOV. Is there anyway to reroute the lines to do this? Hearing the BOV line go off all the time is annoying.
What bov do you have? If you have one that’s routed that way it shouldn’t need this. This bypasses the electronically controlled way of controlling the bov which sounds like you’ve already done
@@Nickjoenap I have an Hks bov
@@joeyyousif9096 You don’t need this then you should be good
@@Nickjoenap yeah but the bov goes off constantly regardless of how much boost. Also this is the sound I am trying to get so I guess my only option would be to get rid of the bov.
What was the size hose you use? i typed in 1/16 and it gave me random options. Can you send me link for hose please
www.ebay.com/itm/272843681840
I searched 1/16 vacuum line and there were several options and colors but that’s the exact one I got
Thank you🙏🏽
i just did this, but it still vents allot. I'll be in any gear, barely press the throttle and on release it vents. it in no way flutters like yours while driving
Hmm I don’t know why that would happen. Maybe try posting on the Facebook groups and see if anyone know
So I did this mod to my st but I’m not getting any flutter. Any suggestions?. I have a turbo smart bov
It only flutters when you build boost and let off in low rpm. It should just sound a little different otherwise
Is it 1/16 or 3/16 th? I can only find the 3/16th vacuum hoses on Amazon
3/16
@@Nickjoenap thanks I plan on doing this to my car this week. Gonna be following your video 👍🏾
Hey. I just did this today and is it supposed to sound so quiet? I also get no flutter at low rpms. I felt like i did something wrong since my hoses were set up differently than shown in the video
Joseph Medina There’s a chance something could be wrong, just make sure the hoses attach at the same points and you cap it where I did. It’ll still make a pshhh noise when under a decent amount of boost, it’s just a little softer and quieter. The flutter only happens when letting off after building boost in low rpm. Check your boost gauge to make sure you’re building boost and it’s releasing the pressure after letting off
mine is 2013 so the line you connect looks little different, but mine too doesn't flutter like this
2013, here, I've don't this and it still doesn't flutter and the bov is super quiet.
dtfreshh the flutter doesn’t happen a lot. If you rev it with the hood open or build boost and let off the throttle under 2500 rpm in 3rd or higher it flutters. You’ll need at least an aftermarket intake filter with the cover removed to hear it. A full intake will help and removing the sound deadening under the hood helps the flutter be louder too
Is that elbow 3 inch or 3.15 by chance? Looks sweet
Here’s where I got it. It’s 3.15 www.amazon.com/dp/B00CB22G7K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_btf_t1_VvHKFbANQDHV9
So all that’s needed for this is a sound symposer delete?
Yes, and vacuum line. Make sure you have a symposer delete with the port for the vacuum line
Isn't turbo flutter bad for the turbo?
it is when the car is under load but this happens when it isn’t under load so it really doesn’t harm it much if at all
@@Nickjoenap I see. So, low load flutter is fine. Just as long as the BOV is venting when it should.
I'm just worried about breaking my stock turbo. I'm not ready to go Big Turbo just yet. Lmfao
@@Halfrightfox yeah, as long as it doesn’t flutter when under throttle or high boost it’s good. i’ve had it for a while and haven’t had any problems
How can I do this if my symposer delete vacuum line is connected to the BOV?
That would mean that your bov is already running on a true vac....
Thanks for the vid!!!
What dress up hardware do you have?
it’s generic from ebay. it was a few dollars if remember right
Sounds like compressor surge ?
Yea it just happens under little load so it won’t cause much damage. If you get into boost it’ll blow off like normal
I need to do this soon and get rid of my sound symposer . Shit is annoying
Nice vid! Where did you get that hose at and how long was it ?
Here’s the link. I believe I got 3 ft www.ebay.com/itm/272843681840
@@Nickjoenap just did it and blow off sounds better. No flutter tho. What bov do you have?
@@bobbydouglas16 boomba
@@Nickjoenap i have a turbo smart. Is yours ajustable?
I just did this mod and routed it exactly like you showed in the video. I’m not getting the same flutter that you are. I have a stock intake with a green air filter and a turbo smart blow off valve. Did I do something wrong or is it just because my intake is stock? All I hear is more burbles from my exhaust.
It probably won’t be very loud with a stock intake
@@Nickjoenap thank you for you’re response! Does your elbow make that much of a noise difference? It looks like you’re intake is stock besides the elbow?
@@hunterstahlheber It seemed to make a little bit of a difference. The intake pipe makes a big difference too. I also removed the black sound deadening from under the hood and that helped hear more turbo noise
does it cause the car to throw an engine light?
nope
Sounds great but could possibly shorten the life of the turbo. We all love the flutter sound but the truth is is that the spooly snails hate it. Is it still holding up okay Nickjoenap?
Yeah I’ve had no problems. Sure it’s not good for the turbo but since it happens under small amounts of load, it doesn’t really do damage
@@Nickjoenap Welp....ik what im doing with some of my stimmy
I just did it and it still sounds the same. Any ideas
Make sure you have an intake and you can remove the black sound deadening under the hood if you want it to be louder
can this work with a Ford Fusion with the 2.0 ecoboost if u use MAPtap from CPE?
i believe i’ve heard someone say it’ll work with that but i’m not completely sure
@@Nickjoenap I just looked and if maptap also works for ST’s the same way the symposer port does then the Fusion will too
I’m doing this on my escape which uses the map tap as well so we’ll see how it goes and if you see this let me know if it worked for you
@@x3ro439 do you have instagram? I am a month late to your comment, but made it work!!!
This work on a stock recerc valve?
Not sure
You get a check engine light?
nope
@@Nickjoenap Cool Thanks
How long do you carry with this without having any problems?
I’ve had it for 2000 miles no issues
@@Nickjoenap but you push it hard? Or like a daily? Both?
@@IvanJrFOST Both, this should be better for hard driving from what I understand. The bov and wastegate now work off of the real measurement of boost, not the electronic signal that the pedal was lifted so it should be more accurate. I do a full throttle pull at least every few days and everything works great. It’ll sound and perform different based on how much boost it was pushing before you let off so it doesn’t flutter from normal driving or pulls
@@Nickjoenap thanks man... I'll do it definitely
@@Nickjoenap hey man i forgot to ask, any check engine light? Or something?
I didn’t get any flutter could it be a vacuum leak
Not sure. It only happens low in the rpms when building boost and letting off. Not all the time
@@Nickjoenap i looked into it and think it’s because i have the turbosmart bov not boomba or any other bov that vents 100% to the atmosphere
The turbo smart should be the same. I had only ever seen it done on a turbo smart before I did it on my boomba
Good commentary but video you kept cutting clips ever second for like a full minute
which intake is that?
Stock intake with a 45° elbow from Amazon and cut stock air box
Do you know if it works on a HKS bov?
Not sure
I do think the hks bov solves the problem this fixes though since it has to use the exhale kit
HKS should only work off of true vacuum
Can I still do this with a stock bov?
I wouldn't, that stock bov is just 2 rubber halves. I'd get an aftermarket bov before I do it
@@richardlapoint1845 thank you!
@@gogurt_st np
We’re you at the mega meet today?
Nope
Nickjoenap the police ran us off the grass for no reason, ruined my shot of a 911
Sirens And Railroads of Oklahoma they’ve done that to me in the past. I have a video of it on my channel a while back
Nickjoenap we aren’t aloud to park on the grass anymore I’m pretty sure
What’s the bov u have?
I have the non adjustable boomba bov
Can this be bad for your car just wondering coz I really want to do it sounds cool a shit 😅
It shouldn’t, lots of people do it with no issues
@@Nickjoenap never new that’s so cool lol, it makes a car sound so much better in my opinion
is 3/16 vacuum line okay to use for this? if 1/16 not available
also did you use teflon tape when u put the boost port on the symposer plate? mine wont go in by hand i gotta use a wrench just wanna make sure thats normal? its a steeda kit
ahac not sure if the vacuum line would fit or not I’d ask steeda. You probably don’t need Teflon tape since it’s that tight they probably made it to where it sealed when it’s screwed in
@@Nickjoenap tried it and everything seems to be okay, where is your spring loaded at? all the way closed or open? and when your bov goes off at around 3k-3.5k revs is the pshh really quiet compared to beforee?
ahac mines not adjustable
Nickjoenap oh thats right u have the boomba, doez it look fully closed or kinda open?
I have a 2015 Ford Fusion 2.0t and I have the boomba sound supposer delete and BOV. What size did port you need for the port on the sound Symposer delete kit? (My Boomba kit has a tap already and I would just have to screw in the port) it should work right?
Tj Lockett I’m not sure what the port size is since mine came with one but if you can figure that out I’m sure it would work
What size line do I need?
3/16 vacuum line
@@Nickjoenap I got a 3x16 and it look soo much smaller than yours in the video
@@austinharrell2821 the one i ordered says 3/16 or 5mm
Super informative video, but damn the cutting/jumping in the editing is gonna give me a seizure lol
I had bad allergies during this video so I was trying to cut out all the sniffing and sneezing lol
@@Nickjoenap oh I 100% understand that!
Little low on coolant
What bov are you using?
Boomba
@@Nickjoenap is it a bov or recirculating valve?
Jeremiah Johnson it’s a bov you can hear it in the video
Jeremiah Johnson yes it’s a full bov not 50/50 like the turbo smart
Nickjoenap I have the 50/50 but it will still work right?
Hey bro, what exactly are the pros and cons of this? I know it sounds great but what is bad about it
Technically it puts extra stress on the turbo but the way that it’s set up keeps it from fluttering under high load so the cons are next to none. Some people don’t even run bovs on high horsepower cars and they’re fine so this shouldn’t cause any problems
@@Nickjoenap sweet thanks bro
I’m not one to hate on you brotha I do appreciate the video because it was a help but your size on vacuum hose is not right the 1/16th is very very small like not usable small just putting out there man! Love the video thanks!
Yeah I think I misspoke I used 3/16
Did this set off any new CEL codes ??
Nope. Still works great with no problems
I've had the turbosmart 50/50 on my car for a few months and I'm looking for other options. It's way to loud even with stiffening the spring, and it blows of constantly. Super annoying. Cool video, I might try this just for fun before I remove the 50/50. Gives me a reason to finally get around to installing my symposer delete.
Joe B This should help with both of those things. It makes it quite a bit quieter and it doesn’t go off near as much. Also holds boost a little better
I've got the same BOV and can confirm that this helps BIG TIME. Super easy to do and it makes the BOV much less obnoxious
Wonder if you can do this (mod) to the stock valve?
I’m sure it would work but I don’t know if I’d recommend it since the stock valve isn’t as strong
@@Nickjoenap thanks for the reply man. I have a full intake and mines flutters already but I want it louder lol I don't like bov sound 😅 I prefer flutter sound.
@@lest187 get a gfb diverter valve
If your interested in getting turbo flutter dont do this . You can buy a go fast bits diverter valve and it never vents to atmosphere it flutters.
Yep and holds pressure properly without putting undo stress on the impeller bearings
You know that flutter is bad right?..
It’s not because it doesn’t happen when it’s under load
@@Nickjoenap I'm just going through that right now with my recent HKS install. It flutters on low RPMs. Same setup as yours. I just don't want to cause any issues with the turbo.
@@LOL2YOU It’s normal because the turbo isn’t under load at that point. It’s bad if it’s under load or when you’re accelerating
@@Nickjoenap okay thanks for clarifying
That problem should not exist if the Ford engineers where given a free hand and support, I’m a license electronic technician and automotive general mechanic for 50 years.
Too much flutter.
What BOV do you have?
It’s a boomba bov