Why Elon Musk cancelled his India trip and flew to China instead
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- Why Elon Musk cancelled his India trip and flew to China instead
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This Chinese premier he met with was the mayor of Shanghai who helped him building the giga factory back in 2018. They go way back.
Not mayor but party secretary of Shanghai which is the number one man more powerful than the mayor.
@@oberstleutnant787 That's an unnecessary piece of information for outsiders only to expose China's weird communist system. We can't solve the problem if people like you don't even realize it's a problem.
Jai Hind. Moving to India is the logical move as it comes with PM Modi blessing.
@@chaz4609 Cow piss isn't gonna help Tesla from losing further profit.
They go way back doesn't cut it when it comes to the cold war of things.
Tesla saw what happened to Xiaomi in India...
what happened?😂
@@fredericoduvel3092 basically, India taxed the shit out of Xiaomi 💀
@@RynD_YT now Indians wants Xiaomi su7 car which is a much cheaper and attractive price
@@tashiyann3262 I am Chinese, and I suggest ya'll wait a few months to see the car's quality. Cheap products from China may have quality issues.
@@RynD_YTthen why are they still in the market? Tell them to leave. They were evading taxes. Chinese companies are notorious for dirty tricks.
Doing business with India's bureaucracy is like doing business with thieves. Musk is not unaware of this!
having a factory in India will be risky move for Tesla. It might pay off in the long term, but short to medium term, I will be a huge nightmare given how much slower things are done there...
yea... india had messed up witth plenty other companies... surely not going to be easy there
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India is DOA, China have a practical monopoly on batteries and no Chinese company will invest in India after all the hostility.
You sure it is a good move even for long term?
@@dynamogaming4953 Your country is bad for business. Admit it and if you can’t differentiate between a bit and normal human. You are not ready for the future.
imagine Elon have a company, that he only came to visit every one or two year, and still the most efficient factory of all his company, thats how good China is, factory of the world.
India is the graveyard of foreign investment 😂
Modi is Rolling in his Grave...and Palki too😂😂😂😂😂
And anti national like you is having fun 😂😂😂.. have fun as long as you can because after 4 June you will not even have a chance to smile 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Modi is alive.
In terms of sales,: priority 1 = China; 2=North America; 3= Rest of world. US and China relations vital for supply chains in both countries. They need to keep talking! Good timely information, Sam, as always.
@gowanduff7501 Tesla sold more cars in the US than in China in 2023.
Europe??
@@markthomas7279 eu is 3rd bro
Let’s not lie lmao
@@someuser7501that’s because byd is taking over China
BUT SIR MY INDIA IS THE REAL SUPERPOWER 🇮🇳🤗 WE HAVE THE BEST INFRASTRUCTURE AND HIGHSPEED RAIL 🇮🇳 🤗 MEANWHILE IN CHINA PEOPLE STILL RIDE RICKSHAW EVERYWHERE AND THEY ALSO POOR DONT HAVE CAR . THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD 🇮🇳 🤗 , WE NEVER SCAM! WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🇮🇳🤗 🇮🇳🇮🇳🤗 🇮🇳🇮🇳🤗 🇮🇳
Modi personally invited Elon Musk, Musk ditched India tge last minute and flight straight to China unannounced.
BUT SIR MY INDIA IS THE REAL SUPERPOWER 🇮🇳🤗 WE HAVE THE BEST INFRASTRUCTURE AND HIGHSPEED RAIL 🇮🇳 🤗 MEANWHILE IN CHINA PEOPLE STILL RIDE RICKSHAW EVERYWHERE AND THEY ALSO POOR DONT HAVE CAR . THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD 🇮🇳 🤗 , WE NEVER SCAM! WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🇮🇳🤗 🇮🇳🇮🇳🤗 🇮🇳🇮🇳🤗 🇮🇳
@@indiasuperclean6969how foolish you are!
Musk knows there is no chance for FSD in India 😁. But To be honest, Musk acted like a buffoon. Once you have given your word, you must keep it.
@BACA01 Musk ran a trillion dollars empire. Words without the money signs are just worthless to Musk business bottom line. Musk will follow where he will get the best out for his business and not how to keep his words. Same with India government mindset, if there is a chance to totally swallow Musk empire, Modi and India will eat all the worthless words you just spew out.
Doing business in India as a foreign investor is like doing business with thieves, dangerous !
FSD in China and data transference from China to America is the issue.
thats not happening lmao. Apple is a example. However in think that China should use Elon to pressure the US to allow chinese vehicles to operate in the US using only US servers. However as we see with Tiktok... i dont think that is happening
China might consider it if Tesla transfers all American data to China first as a sign of good will
FSD has passed the security assessments in China already. What Tesla wants more is to transfer the data from China to America to train their later FSD model. Because the road situation in China is more complex and large in scale.
@@weimingfeng2284 Clearly if Chinese companies gets to gather similar amount of data from US drivers then there might be a small chance of trade
@@weimingfeng2284 I think if anything they could simply do what Google Street Maps does with blurring out things on the sides of roads people object to. They can run all the footage through the blur routine.
India need to develop their infrastructure. A Megapack factory would be nice!
But it needs Chinese batteries, and that's a problem for them.
India causes themself problems with their attitude towards China.
They could try cooperation, but they aren't good at that!
There is a fable in South Asia. If you encounter a snake and an Indian at the same time in the forest, you'd better run away in the direction of the snake.
Panasonic building battery manufacturing company in India wait and watch ! Musk will be late ! When our Ev manufacturing companies will make there chances from 90 to 10 %
@@user-st8kk4ij3qand that's how u get ur ass bited ! 😂 ask Sri Lanka
@@svanimation8969 what wait and watch if you couldn't make your own Google in India entire your life and what people could expect?
@@tashiyann3262 u think making google like thing is impossible that so in a country whose 50 % economy based on IT software exports ? 🤡 we can make clones like China any DAY !
nothing in India, no supply, no demand, whats the point of visiting? As of China contributes 50%+ supply plus 40% of demand of Tesla, who's Elon's daddy?
Well, tesla is bad for india, but not for that reason.
Actually, Teslas aren't allowed in india unless they set up a factory there.
10% Indians can afford a tesla. That's 140million.
And people are more willing to buy EVs in India as it's densely populated, similar to china. Unlike USA where people travel long distances. But China has intense competition and market saturation.
Tesla is bad in india rn cuz it's bleeding money. But for the long term, India's good. But they shouldn't come to India as it's a tough market. You can't survive if you don't modify your cars for indian needs. US car companies are known for not doing that
@@Dr.Kay_R does India have the power supply infra. capacity to feed big amounts of EV cars? I think it will take another 10 -20 years to roll out the same level of EV eco system as China.
India has power outages every day.
@@patrick_leeIndia doesn't want EVs. They are a scam.
@@patrick_leeyeah that's why byd desperately trying to enter india (trying to set manufacturing plate proposal rejected by indian goverment) ? 😂😂
Zero knowledge expert everywhere...
But India has developed cows that can fly to the moon, this is technology that the Chinese won't be able to catch up.
I go to India for work twice a year. The first tier cities like Mumbai, Chennai, Delhi have good roads, but if you go to other cities is a different story. My office is in Pune where most roads are not paved, many road has speed bump every hundred meters and car, sheep’s, cattle….all share the same path, and the only charging stations I see are in our office campus. Driving Tesla there is reserved for the very rich. GWM Tank 300 hybrid is a better fit.
India is building 6000 plus km of motorways every year & is building infrastructure faster than any other country in the world at the moment.
@@AROMAL1123never been to China right? India builds nothing compared with China. Do a research How much cement and steel India consumes each year.
@@AROMAL1123 India has a LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG way to go before it matches the infrastructure/technological impact of China, Korea or Malaysia. We are talking probably two decades here.
@@AROMAL1123 you know india counts one lane per km.... so if it's a 6 lane highway, 1km they'll count as 6km...
@@AROMAL1123it’ll take 20 years just to catch up to China.
India charging infrastructure in non existent, it would be stupid for Tesla to open factory there when there is no charging infrastructure. Even in the US, where charging infrastructure is in infancy, you already see the slow down of EV sales. Only Chinese and European market have maturing and expanding charging infrastructure.
Tesla builds their own charging infrastructure, so they don't depend on whether or not a nation or region has good or bad charging infrastructure.
@@AWildBard no
@@AWildBard try to build charging infrastructure where the blackout is every day thing, where there is often land ownership conflict, and where there is rampant thief stealing whatever metal they can get, yeah tesla should build there 🤣
That is *not* my experience - albeit only of Goa.
@@godzillamothra5983
I am sure what you are saying is 100% correct. But there are ways to solve those problems.
The copper stealing reminds me of South Africa. It's been a big problem over there, too.
Moodi is now questioning palki how could this happened. Expect palki to come out with stories to calm her naked king temper down
Asean countries already getting their Teslas from Shanghai . No issue.
Issue is data security in regards to FSD, if it must be trained on US based super computers, and it does--data must be transferred.
Chinese auto is expected to have sophisticated software, so Tesla at a disadvantage there.
BYD will probably never have such permission from USA, nor should they.
Right hand drive Tesla 3s and Ys are made only in Shanghai too. So they are exported to the UK plus other right hand drive markets.
except of course for taiwan, no way would china let cars be exported to taiwan.
@@scottmcshannon6821 MG already sold their car to Taiwan, you need to update your source.
India will charge retrospective VAT. No exception.
There’s no such thing as retrospective tax - not even in Australia. It is un-democratic
BUT SIR MY INDIA IS THE REAL SUPERPOWER 🇮🇳🤗 WE HAVE THE BEST INFRASTRUCTURE AND HIGHSPEED RAIL 🇮🇳 🤗 MEANWHILE IN CHINA PEOPLE STILL RIDE RICKSHAW EVERYWHERE AND THEY ALSO POOR DONT HAVE CAR . THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD 🇮🇳 🤗 , WE NEVER SCAM! WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🇮🇳🤗 🇮🇳🇮🇳🤗 🇮🇳🇮🇳🤗 🇮🇳
There's no VAT in india, India uses GST
Different name but same principe.@@ElonHusky
Indian prime minister must be furious by now
JLR coming with there own GIGA ev factory in India !
nahh , he is not. indian companies gearing up to capture the market fully resulting in no entry possible for any foreign company in future.
@@varsha_shah858 smart move then. Musk has no interest in creating jobs... Infact he is trying hard to destroy as many jobs as he can
@varsha_shah858 😂, Made in India tempoo
Musk probably used India to get China for better deal, Tesla in China at a crossroad that can make or break Tesla. India never a player in this game.
Great stuff Sam
Glad you enjoyed it
This trip to China was not improvised: Tesla will be announcing its robotaxi in China on 8/8. But why? Because 8 is a lucky number in China, as it is for the Olympic Games, which kicked off in Beijing on 8/8 2008 at 8:08 pm. China is also the most advanced country in terms of L3/L4 autonomy and the most advanced in terms of regulations.
Name me one car compamy that is successful in India?
Name one foreign company that is successful in super duper India.
Ford? Nissan? You forgot Tata
@@7hx89only Indian buy Tata just like Malaysian buy Proton
Those Morris Oxfords look pretty good.
Suzuki sell well in India, but you would know that
How will the extremely superpower India punish this guy for his insolence? You do not simply arrange a meeting with Narendra Modi and cancels it at the last minute. That is not cool, bro. What is even worse is that you had cancelled this meeting just for China. 🤔😏😭
Better poop
Cancelled because there is no contract to sign. Top leaders meet to sign contracts. Clearly the contract is delayed. Both want the deal. No doubt it will happen in time. In truth India needs EV leadership. The only alternatives are Chinese and that is politically impossible. The only show in town is Tesla so that's how the power stands in this relationship.
@@markthomas7279 Stop sugarcoating. 🥱What he meant is that Elon Musk thinks that China > India, and hence, he cancels the proposed meeting with India at the last minute and flew to China for business talks instead. 🥱😡
@@markthomas7279 That's a ton of copium comment.😏🤥🥱
@@markthomas7279 Lip services and predictions of the future do not count. 🤥🥱
“Demography, not democracy, will be the most critical factor for security and growth in the 21st century”
― Lee Kuan Yew
US will not allow Tesla to export AI/Dojo technology to China, and China will not allow its data to be exported to US, so it's complicated. FSD is more important than India or Model-2, since other brands are already at $20K price. The market is pushing for Tesla's $20K Model-2, but that's kinda irrelevant when prices are dropping for every other model. FSD 'data' is just as important for national security as the AI/Dojo 'tech', which is why it may be deployed in Europe before the US. Remember, Tesla EV's are already prohibited in China for government employees/areas. This is complicated, and the question of 'sovereign-data' is not easy when a car can effectively be used as a drone or surveillance device.
Lee Kwan Yew was aware of demographics given multiracial Singapore. China doesn't have that problem, or at least a significant low IQ cohort.
AI/Dojo technology. LOL. The Chinese are far ahead of Tesla when it comes to AI and autonomous driving. The reason Tesla wants to release FSD in China is because its sales are falling off a cliff, and Elon hopes FSD will create some hype around his outdated cars to drive up consumer interest. This isn't going to work, because Chinese consumers will soon find out that FSD is laughably behind its Chinese competitors.
BUT SIR MY INDIA IS THE REAL SUPERPOWER 🇮🇳 🤗 WE HAVE THE BEST INFRASTRUCTURE AND HIGHSPEED RAIL 🤗🇮🇳 MEANWHILE IN CHINA PEOPLE STILL RIDE RICKSHAW EVERYWHERE AND THEY ALSO POOR DONT HAVE CAR . THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD 🇮🇳 🤗 , WE NEVER SCAM! WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🇮🇳 🤗🇮🇳🇮🇳 🤗🇮🇳🇮🇳 🇮🇳 🤗
Just when modi thought Elon was coming to raise his profile for the election, Elon went to China. Lol 🤭🤣😂
Are you the son of that lizard
Elen don’t have big balls like modi
He is sh---t for Indian election
Lol
Wake up
We have our own EV
India don’t need this bullshit car
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@@lomeshbrahmbhatt3653 Wake up, Indian bot. Indian politicians were seen begging/tweeting for Elon Musk's investment in India on social medias. 🤥🥱
@@lomeshbrahmbhatt3653 Indian politicians were seen begging/tweeting for Elon Musk's investment in India on social medias. 🤥🥱
Nice job on all this coverage
Both this video, and the one you released today
Fantastic work
I think you are on top of this situation at least as much as anyone else, if not leaps and bounds ahead
Anyway, thanks !!!!
If TikTok is not allowed to operate in US, what gives Tesla a slither of chance to transfer data from China to the US. That's like the most ridiculous idea.
Says the poster who doesn't know sliver from slither. LOL
They should say : "If you ban TikTok, we ban Tesla".
@@tomtube1012 That is already tit for tat as China does not allow X/Twitter in China!
Net says no US social media is allowed in China.
I expect there is much more in play here than social media.
@@danharold3087 My understanding is that they require user data to be stored locally in China and those companies refused.
@@danharold3087 In contrast Tik Tok was willing to store user data in US.
@5:36. That's interesting to know.
That adds to my previous question of how Sam concludes that Chinese autonomous driving software is not as good as Tesla's.
At least, NON of the autonomous robotaxis and robo-busses that have been operating for years in China have had any accidents.
In China, if these robo- vehicles have an accident, the WHOLE WORLD would know, and it would be in the front page news in the western media.
In fact, Sam specifically made a video about Xiaomi EV crashes.
Why would Sam keep quiet about Chinese robotaxi crashes or robobus crashes IF THERE WAS any crashes ??
Except for the fact that a Communist dictatorship like China strictly controls all the media and information data so the outside world knows only what the government want's them to know.
China always hides bad news. No chinese Self Driving accident would be on chinese news or allowed out of the country.
The comment I just made vap%@ored. Basically, unfavorable events would be hard to get i# n& f% o# . Never get out to wor?&ld.
@@BillSmith-fx7xx No, definitely not the case.
In China, ANY bad news goes worldwide very quickly often even going on front pages of western news websites.
And even for those that don't, at least I'm sure Sam would cover them here. (For example, Sam covered those Xiaomi crashes in one of his previous videos).
So how do you think Sam was able to cover those crashes?
Obviously, it's not like Sam was sitting in China waiting for these things to happen.
Clearly it's because these kinds of negative events in China spread very quickly throughout the world. If and when these things happen, you will know.
An interesting fact is that Tesla is one of the companies that have got the most subsidies from Chinese government😂
It was BAIT. And it worked. China and Tesla needed each other.
@@danharold3087 It is also life saving. before the setting up of Shanghai factory, Tesla had a serious production problem and faced financial difficulties in 2019
What willl the answer be from The White House, when a chinese automobile company, eg chinese Musk, asked to transfer data to China?
Or same question to the EU?
LIke Tesla is the only US multinational ?
Excellent choice of words for the title of your video. No sugarcoating and just purely facts.
Cheers mate
india needs restrroms and gloves first
West needs to decide gender first
rest room? vat is resting room? we wery mighty indian go outsides
@@AnjaliApta-qt1iw You got me LOL
@@JohnMcAfee-se9ms Disgusting...
@@AnjaliApta-qt1iw India need to stop worshipping cows...
How much does FSD rely on painted lines on the asphalt? The area where I live has lots if paint worn off because they are too lazy or too cheap to fix it.
FSD works on dirt roads so worn paint is no big deal.
@@someuser7501what about snow? Snow covering the road. No lines can be seen.
Even LiDAR won't help you determine the precise curb locations if everything is covered in thick snow. You can search for FSD snow videos. It will do its best but expect some curb hits.
@@someuser7501 did your snow comment get deleted?
BUT SIR MY INDIA IS THE REAL SUPERPOWER 🇮🇳🤗 WE HAVE THE BEST INFRASTRUCTURE AND HIGHSPEED RAIL 🇮🇳 🤗 MEANWHILE IN CHINA PEOPLE STILL RIDE RICKSHAW EVERYWHERE AND THEY ALSO POOR DONT HAVE CAR . THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD 🇮🇳 🤗 , WE NEVER SCAM! WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🇮🇳🤗 🇮🇳🇮🇳🤗 🇮🇳🇮🇳🤗 🇮🇳
THIS IS SARCASM, RIGHT? 😂🤣😁😆😀😃😝
According to the China Association of Automobile Manufacturers (notification released yesterday), Tesla already have full compliance for automotive data safety meaning no leaks of cockpit recordings and other data-safety details. I guess the issue here is definitely the data transfers to USA servers... Elon could learn and improve a lot by using all the data collected from Teslas on chinese roads. The other hidden issue is that it is a massive security threat for China to share such data with the ¨freedom fighter¨ guys that can easily access Elon's data at will with a simple court order. If the Americans can cry for TikTok, China has the same right to protect its own interests. But if they approve it, it will be a baller's (positive) message to the USA... ¨we don't care¨ let's do business.
On Monday, two separate sources told Reuters Tesla had reached an agreement with Baidu to use the Chinese tech giant's mapping license for data collection on China's public roads, which they described as a key step for FSD to be introduced in the country.
After Reuter’s announcement of the cancellation of the 25k car based on inside information I would not trust any news about Tesla or Elon Musk from them.🤔
The term “bleeding” in this context signifies that the business is losing money at a rate that is unsustainable or detrimental to its operations. Tesla has reduced auto revenue and sales but it has not lost money. To use "bleeding" is over the top.
China will never allow it, but teslas problems in my opinion is stagnant products. People love new stuff. Flogging the x s 3 and y with minor tweaks just isn’t cutting it especially with other manufacturers bringing the latest and greatest to the table constantly. Innovation is what people want.
Hey but you have to admit that having the best selling car in the world was quite an accomplishment. If anyone wants to say toyota still had them beat it all depends on who and how one counts. A magazine article addressed this and said if we count toyota style the 3 and Y are the same car and Tesla was still the best selling. I was not the one who did the counting.
I love apple apple 🍏 green
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I look out the balcony and it's all green
There would be an advantage to creating FSD based on intel in another region. An FSD that’s based in China would learn and grow differently. So instead of just one path to autonomy there would be a second one. Maybe eventually a third in India. The sense of competition between the teams and just taking a different path would put FSD as a whole far ahead than just developing it in one place.
Talk is easy.. Setting up a giant company is that easy in India??By the time the factory Ready, cars already have evolved...
The AI would be confused by driving styles and would suck driving in both countries.
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The problem for Tesla in China is they haven’t had an updated model for years while one year in the Chinese market equals 1 light year for the rest of the world.
Actually, that's not the problem at all. Tesla sales are doing well in China despite increased competition and a weak economy. Tesla Model Y is the best selling vehicle in China and the whole world. Facts do not support your position.
The Tesla Model Y was the #1 selling car model in China for 2023 (that's for ALL car models not just EVs). It is currently at the #3 position for 2024 YTD. I'd say their "old" model is still doing pretty good.
@@markthomas7279According to the “Weekly Sales of popular EVs” for the 16th week of 2024 (April 15th to April 21st). Huawei Aito has the highest sales volume at 6,044 units; followed by Tesla with 5,168 units; Li Auto sold 4,488 units; Leapmotor recorded sales of 3,875 units; Zeekr’s sales reached 3,159 units; Nio had 3,019 units sold; Xpeng reported 2,494 units; Xiaomi Auto sold 1,716 units; and finally, Zhiji Auto had the lowest sales volume among those listed, at 1,098 units. Xiaomi now confirmed 70000 orders since it's su7 launched.
1 light year is a measure of distance not time
Agree in the EV ecosystem, Tesla's are looking dated. Also their ergonomics and value are crap. That's putting a lot off and giving their competition a free kick.
JAI HIND! Can't wait for WION / Firstpost to report this lol
Wion / Firstpost will report Modi no time to meet up Elon so Elon went to China instead.
Indian like to boast how great they are.
They are crying 😭😭😭
While tiktok and Huawei are facing unfair treatment in US, tesla is welcomed in China.
If we are in the cold war, who is the USSR and who is the US?
Hmmmm if you don't know why Huawei and Tik Tok are a problem then you don't really understand technology and tech markets.
They should say : "If you ban TikTok, we ban Tesla".
@@tomtube1012 nah, that's what petty country would do.
Its the best opportunity for China to show the world, where is more 'open' for business.
More US business thrive in China the better for China
@@Xind0898 Then they'll lose. They need to fight fire with fire.
@@Xind0898 Alternatively, they can say : "If you ban BYD, we ban Tesla".
Tesla and India are not a good fit since the import duties in India are 100% on Tesla unless Tesla builds a giga factory there. The protectionism in India is brutal and free trade with India is virtually impossible. Furthermore most people in India cannot afford to buy a Tesla since annual income of most Indians is well below the price of a Tesla.
China is a different story since the new autopilot software for China would be something the Chinese owners of Tesla's may want and want to share with Tesla's head office with the right incentives, such as building a new Tesla Model 2 in China.
They've been working on that for years already.
India is going to compromise for Tesla if Tesla also brings something India wants.
@@AWildBard I am sorry, but your optimism regarding India's motives are unfounded for all India wants is export Tesla's once an Indian giga factory is in place. Local consumption of Tesla's is limited.
They want Indian employment at a giga factory, but they don't want Tesla competing on the local market with other Indian made vehicles. Protectionism in India is real and it would not be in Elon Musk's interest to invest in an Indian giga factory in my opinion.
@@mauriceharting5877
Tesla probably wouldn't mind exporting from India if it is profitable.
Protectionism is very strong in India, that's true.
We'll see what happens.
@@AWildBard If I was in charge of Tesla I would be concerned about:
1. India's protectionism
2. Sales of Tesla's within India
3. Political instability and changes for foreign corporations within India
4. Export restrictions and duties on Indian made Tesla's to Europe and the US
@@mauriceharting5877
I'm not really basing my opinion on optimism. I just doubt that Tesla would go into anywhere without a profitable reason. So it seems like if Modi or anyone in India wants Tesla to come in, they will have to make some kind of compromise, including on the 100% tariffs. And India will want something in return.
And it really does seem like India wants Tesla to invest in India. Because they keep saying they do.
But what you say is also true, which is why Tesla-- and every other company -- are not in India so far.
Perhaps the Chinese gov should insist he sell Tesla to a Chinese entity.
That will happen anyway as it happened to many Western companies.
No need as China have a kot of capable EV manufacturer. US have none therefore bo choice force China to. Sell the company to them.
They should say : "If you ban TikTok, we ban Tesla".
@@tomtube1012 One again. China has banned all western social media. This is starting to smell like spam tom.
@@danharold3087 Once again, they require user data to be stored locally in China and those companies refused.
All American automakers were making terrible losses in India. It's a financial trap to all automakers except Suzuki. Elon Musk can't be fooled twice.
Ind is busy in keeping tariff to top companies like tesla. It's bad negotiations
Surely Musk could offer to disable FSD in any sensitive areas - and he might be able to offer to separate the Chinese data so it's not held in the USA. Banks do that with sensitive customer data so that places like Luxembourg and The Channel Islands can offer certain types of security.
Elon Musk didn't lie, did he? He cancelled his trip to India because he really has heavy workload.
Musk found a friend in chna when he faced so many resistance in U5 years back and took off so well in chna. Now chna alrdy have autonomous bus and delivery bots etc., Tesla FSD should fit the market well as chna is more ready for it than U5. I believe they will work out something, chna views Musk as fren too.
Makes sense that Musk would find a Communist dictatorship a friendly environment.
Tesla FSD has been in wide release in the US since October 24th, 2021
@@someuser7501 yes no intend to take credit away from U5 market adoption. Chna govt adoption in public transports is moving faster though and that's very key for mass market adoption. Either way i wish musk get something worked out there.
Because making money in India is hard/not profitable and taking out the money you had earned is even harder? 😆
Knowing the Americans, they really, really got very "thick skin'.
He wants to introduce FSD while it is still in development? Said this before, he should be personally responsible for any negative incidents.
Aparently tesla has 3 yesrs of FSD data in China where he wants to transfer that data to the usa
Jus between me an u …… I bet h smart smart mouth to insure it ………🤫
Smart enough to insure
Did you also say that Larry Page and Sergey Brin, the founders of Google, should be personally responsible for accidents that Waymo had? Of course you didn’t.
BUT SIR MY INDIA IS THE REAL SUPERPOWER 🇮🇳 🤗 WE HAVE THE BEST INFRASTRUCTURE AND HIGHSPEED RAIL 🤗🇮🇳 MEANWHILE IN CHINA PEOPLE STILL RIDE RICKSHAW EVERYWHERE AND THEY ALSO POOR DONT HAVE CAR . THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD 🇮🇳 🤗 , WE NEVER SCAM! WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🇮🇳 🤗🇮🇳🇮🇳 🤗🇮🇳🇮🇳 🇮🇳 🤗
Clearly, you have given this much more though than I have.
Per USA playbook… ‘National Security’… where will these Tesla be hosted?
anyway, he was right to ditch India. that country is very entitled and its just a pain to start a business there and Tesla only moving there because China is becoming less and less of an option. China threat was more immediate at that point, i would ditch the India meeting as well if i were him.
His Shanghai factories are the most productive and efficient. Lol.
The Aussie way of saying data sounds like a baby learning to say Daddy. 😂
Aaaaan who knew
Jai Hind. We Indians honor our words and, not to say one thing and to do another thing.
Really? Under all circumstances?
Much better than the USA or UK. They have a terrible history of breaking treaties with Indians.😊
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He should come clean about the deal with CCP.
News headlines:
2) S&P Global Ratings on July 13 affirmed India’s sovereign rating at the lowest investment grade of ‘BBB-’ for the 14th year in a row (TheHindu)
Where are you from sir ? Tell honestly if you have the guts.
@@gpinaki If you have the guts, find me. 🥱
我很乐意看到特斯拉在印度建厂
thank you, I admire china and would like to get relations better with time btw I think musk uncle is waiting for Indian elections to be over
Google still needs to perfect its ♊️ 😂
然后跟小米一样的下场，暗黑
@@user-vw7fz3eq1b 我是相信共同富裕的，而且我确实很好奇印度的工业实力和人才能力的。
@@user-vo5px7qb5k Don't be silly. India bullied China in the 1950s and 60s. India land grabbed South Tibet in 1951 and is occupying it since and becomes today so-called Arunachal Pradesh. China has a huge land dispute with India the size twice of Taiwan. India is a country up to no good.
What could a detour mean on world stage? China convince that build in India a threat if not its something big time .
Hope Elon has a cup-bearer that will test any servings offered to him, wait for 30 years (to catch hidden long-term effects) and then report back (or not) depending on the outcome
fsd in china great should only take 300 years or so
Tesla need to lower prices below $40000 aud and double the range of batteries
If they do that do you think there could be a chance the Model Y could become the best selling car in the world?
@@InformedKiwi go eat your tofu and chickpea spew
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Tesla is so behind in everything. Not only FSD
Another Elon basher ! The greatest Automotive engineer in the world. Why do you hate success ? Toyota engineers who pulled a Model Y apart said “It’s a work of art”
@@InformedKiwi I still won't played computer game on FSD like the dead Google engineer. Jai Hind.
Jai Hind. Let FSD pk Huawei's ASD in order to verify what you claim.
@@chaz4609 Can Huawei operate on a dirt road.
There's no market for Tesla in India. Simple as that.
😂😂
The real reason Musk is visiting China is to see if lower cost EVs can be produced in China at his factories to compete with the BYD SEAGULL EV in my view.
Another brilliant strategy! LOL
2:44 I don't think this a major issue to their sale, the simple fact is that Tesla are no longer cool due its outdated design and over minimalistic interior.
@passby8070 and somehow the Tesla Model Y was the top selling car in the World (including gasoline ones) in 2023. Nobody thinks the Corolla is cool either and that was the previous top seller for years.
Risk of putting too many eggs in Chinese basket. Wiser to diversify geographically.
Spain and Mexico
Meanwhile TicTok can't do the same 🤔
News headlines:
3) Fitch retains India's rating at 'BBB-' as growth potential fights high deficit concerns (The Economic Times)
What is the point of FSD? It's amazing tech but I don't want or need somone (even an AI) to drive me around. I ENJOY driving. I don't get it.
You will ! It just will take time. Robo taxis will become so good and so cheap you won’t want to own a car. Predicted by Tony Seba years ago.
I feel the same. But as I look at the USA & world, you & I are in the minority. People are funny. As for me, It's Not Just My Car, It's My Fredoom !
The world would be safer if you let the car drive when you should not be driving. Self driving cars are freedom machines for the young, very old, handicapped, and impaired. As for the young and very old look forward to semi sentient security and companion robots.
@@danharold3087 Those are one type of freedom.
@@BillSmith-fx7xx Well yes. The mobility of a car makes it a freedom machine for people who can use it. This extends that group.
#fakrnews. This was just a data security thing. He had to share Tesla data with China to convince them it was a threat to security (,ie, camera footage). He was also forced to buy data and mapping from a Chinese company, Baidu.
This does NOT mean FSD works, and that the Chinese approved it.
China fear about tesla coming India i know china smart peoples they leart all technology from western companies but tesla not coming ind.bAd for India for ev technology .
CEO is making the mandatory rounds after earnings to boost stock price. 14 % rise week Tesla. Fisker leading FSRN with 159 % Gains month and 4 potential Buyout offers coming in May. Can Polestar... Lucid...Xos Trucks... Rivian, others move green.? Thumbs up video/ comments. Thanks.
This sort of thing to boost stock price is wasted effort. Tesla_Q media has a folder full of articles to destroy gains. They recycle old ones if there is no new news.
Pointless visiting Modi if he is not ready to contract. No doubt appropriate communication took pkace.
Elon Musk's nickname in China is 真人钢铁侠, Iron Man IRL
Added some $SVMH this is the #1 EV bike play on the market the CEO just to work for Tesla facility about to open anyday
How can anyone take Reuters seriously
Who does
People with one brain cell.
They should start making plans for recycling the used batteries, only 10% of lithium ion batteries are currently being recycled , no one seems interested in doing it. So they are currently ending up in land fill in some countries and in big storage area's in Australia, They are still waiting for companies to come forward to do this recycling. They classify these cars as zero emissions, that's the biggest deception ever. The amount of pollution they create in their manufacture and when they are disposed is not much different to a gasoline car. Most parts in a gasoline car are recyclable including the lead acid batteries.
Source? That sounds like fairly stale information. Battery recyclers need more batteries.
To the West, India is insignificant, except when they can be used on the front lines against China. India should work with China.
From what I understand he's planning on building another FSD server Center in China to handle the Chinese population. I'm fairly certain the Chinese government would never allow them to export that information to the USA.
To update FSD on the cars. But with no NVIDIA in china they can not do the NN training there.
If im chinese government ill request
1.) Tesla corporate with local cloud player like Alicloud to store data of Chinese user.
2.) car produced by shanghai factory equipped Beidou navigation system.
I believe that is already the case for cars built in China.
Seems a tough sell for China to let data go back to US as Sam says. Second reason is that the US is making life hard for China, Inc. so why would China go out of its way to help Tesla? I would be that Musk has been told that FSD is not going to happen but it’s so important to him that he’s trying to make the case in person. Tesla is dealing with declining sales revenue and FSD is one way, perhaps the only short term way, to fix it.
What telsa doing in china, stays there, simple as that, musk has many other products all related to automation, now all of his products will use chinese data, serving chinese customers, well yet again under one condition, whatever happens in china, stays there.
It's not really "helping" Telsa, but rather not hinder them. But they most likely will continue hindering Tesla.
Elon is South African and that helps. Correction , Tesla is not experiencing declining sales revenue. You are just a portrayer of FUD.
No more China bashing on X😂 2:45
elon to modi: niHaoo
I think Musk said "nayhee" to Modi, which Modi understood! 😂
Why do they need to transfer the data out of China. Surely they can do whatever they need to do with it on Chinese servers.
this kinda AI project needs Nvidia advanced chips for training data, but these chips sanctioned export to our country, that's why,
Musk is a realist! He knows where the future and money is! That's why he told Modi, "nayhee, Bharat!" but "nihao, Zhongguo!" 🇨🇳
FSD China data transference from China to America. There should be no need to send data to America. This is a national security matter for China.
Because the |ndian mentality is that they must always be the winner and there is no win-win trading relationship but only "the |ndian win and you lose" trading relationship? 💪
Can you prove that India got this mindset? If you put example from Indian aggression to her neighbors, then every big nation is gilty of that. As for dealing with the big boys, India is far more cooperative than China, cos, India is weaker and has to bow more.
Let me guess? Muslim? I would be surprised if you didn’t shit in the comment section where india is mentioned 😂😂😂
@@aniksamiurrahman6365 He is muzzlim.. what else are you expecting from him? 😂😂😂
@@aniksamiurrahman6365 Not that smart, aren't you? "2783 foreign companies shut |ndia operations since 2014". Why?😏😁🤭
@@proudindian8465 Says the Indian bot 🤣who thinks that everyone negative about India is a Muzzlim.
There goes my only possession ..there goes my only Tesla... Modi must be very disappointed when he watched on the news Elon Musk visited Shanghai and met with PM Li Qiang of China as two weeks ago Elon Musk postponed his trip to India citing
very tight schedule.
It's 8 days to be exact. Scheduled meeting is on 21 to 22 April 2024 in Delhi but the postponement was only called in on 20 April 2024. 8 days later after the official postponement, he went to China unannounced and on a weekend Sunday 28 April 2024. And 1 day after his trip after stock trading resumes on 29th April 2024, Elon Musk became $36 billion richer since returning from his triumphant China trip (Business Insider) and his company shares of Tesla jumped $25.66, or 15% (CBS News) in just ONE DAY on Monday 29th April 2024.
I believe Elon might not visiting india until india election is finished, let's wait and see, but dear indians, who will be your new PM? Modi?
If I was Elon and some leader wanted to use me to influence his election I would stay away. I do not know this to be the case.
@@danharold3087 he is already winning whether elon comes or not.
I think you overstate what people think about Musk. I dont hate him, i just think hes a bully & he thunks he knows better than anyone else. Hes only as good as the people who work for him.
No he is actually better than anyone else
Yes, you are absolutely correct. Most of the people I know can’t stand the man to the point they refuse to buy his cars. I also don’t hate him but also don’t want to help people that are so obsessed with wealth and does things differently from what they say. Musk is a huge hypocrite.
Better than anyone else - that’s funny.
No. That's not how leadership works. Leadership is predicated by respect. Tesla and SpaceX are the top two companies that engineering graduates want to work for. The reason for that is the meritocracy and empowerment embodied by Musk's leadership. Musk has established the environment, systems, policies and incentives that enable Tesla employees to overachieve.
@@markthomas7279top 2 companies for engineers to work for …based on what?