Tesla’s NEW Dojo AI super-chip will be 40 times more powerful
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- Tesla’s NEW Dojo AI super-chip will be 40 times more powerful
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The game has changed so many times I can't recall what the game is.
It’s not a game, it’s serious 😮
It's now checkers . . . the next time, the game will be tic-tac-toe.
Spot the fool is the game....
Very interesting, thank you
Cerebras has been making wafer scale AI chips for couple years. They are for sale
Excellent update Sam!
Dude, you are outstanding in your ability to deliver valuable information. I need to know more of your background because you are really helping mankind adjust to our fast moving world.
Bad thing about today's CPUs and GPUs: not even 1% of the energy put in is being used a processing power. All is being lost as heat and as well as the energy to move the heat away (aka cooling) so the thing doesn't overheat.
Go watch Anastasi in Tech if you want to see the latest discoveries in AI and semiconductors. Tesla isn’t even close. Tesla’s advantage is in manufacturing and the fact that they can customize their chip design for their needs. But cutting edge? No…
DOJO is a purpose built processor. As you said "design for their needs" as in training. Does not matter how crappy it is at things it is not designed to do.
Saw my first Cybertruck in New Jersey yesterday.
If you go to any Tesla center you can see them
And….
@@muskepticsometimes9133 😂😂
@@MrPropanePete Drove by so fast I just got a glimpse of the back end.
Mine is coming in the next few days! My reservation was in the first week after unveiling. I’m really excited!
Computers always keep getting faster. I saw the CRAY supercomputer in the Smithsonian like 25 years ago, it was about twice as fast as a IBM desktop at the time and used 100x the power.
I agree!
Nvidia's advantage have a significant head start in terms of development and market presence. Their GPUs are well-established and supported by a mature software ecosystem.
If Tesla achieves the claimed 40x performance boost, Dojo could become a leader in specific AI training tasks. However, it might require significant software development to fully utilize its potential. Currently Tesla is buying as many NVDA H100 chips as they can get.
That's two new revolutionary game changing technologies announced by Sam in the past 24 hours. I ran some numbers from the past 12 months of Viking videos, and it's amazing. Sam averaged three and a half "game changer" technologies each week. Thats 182 "game changers" from May 2023 to May 2024, or about 14 per month. Sam mentioned 2 weeks ago that his background was in marketing and that's what his videos essentially are, the relentless promotion of battery cars. The videos are interesting and entertaining and I think he's a good bloke at heart, but I wouldn't get too excited about all these unverified statistics and "experts say" and "people are saying" statements.
Good research on Sam and his over optimistic futurity 😂
Sam talks about the future of battery tecnology and most of the time he is right. For example, he anticipated CATL battery brakethrow. Boom, Tesla and many other car manufactures are fighting who is goingt o have their batteries first. CATL builds their factories all over the worls, USA included. Not without the reason. Lots of other examples .....Sam is good, only people dont understand because he talks what is going to be 2-3 years in the future. Remember gigacasting ????
Game changing lost it s meaning on this channel. iPhone was game changing, first Teslas were game changing, electricity was game changing. Incremental improvements in existing technologies are by definition NOT game changing ;-)
And the game hasn’t changed
Whatever happened with Sam's wife who was recently at death's door with stage 4 (incurable) cancer. Sam was even accepting Paypal donations for her. She hasn't been mentioned for a long time.
What kind of multiple for other chip makers? nVidia, I thought will be 100x or more soon?😊
Just yesterday the conversation was about Tesla making better cars. With BYD competition, now the focus is on the next shiny thing. One feels that the Chinese not only can catch up in cars, but also self driving tech.
Sam, Other chips are also advancing so it does not make a lot of sense to compare 2 future targets. It's also hard to compare at the chip level. I would be interested in a comparison of an entire data center (building) with respect to electrical power. If you provide the same power for a datacenter building, which solution provides more AI processing - current dojo or current Nvidia?
Thanks for surfing the "cutting edge" Sam... we should nick name you the Silver Surfer... hehe... '; p
No, he is more like the Watcher!
That will be a lot of heat/electrons running through that board.
Doesn't matter how much vompute and data you throw at it.. If you got the wrong model you will never achieve full autonomy
The model is constantly being trained.
Which is why Tesla is spending $3B on Training and $7B on inference. As in the inference engine.
@@mallamal5578 you can train a horse forever on calculus it will never get it
If you're saying Tesla won't achieve full autonomy based on their current architecture, then you don't actually work on this technology, and you are not educated on the capability of what cameras can do.
@@MrNiceGuy485 I worked in AI for 25 years. Tesla is full of hopium. Trust Elon, you will lose your money.
tsmc inside
FSD is almost there already, certainly not 2 years away so Dojo will need something else to do. Who wants to speculate on what that'll be?
Robot’s market is uncertain and is highly competitive. It would be stupid to give up EV and supercharging businesses.
Nobody is giving up either the EV or superCharging. They are optimizing it.
Highly
competitive?
Does anyone even have a humanoid robot saleable product?
@@jeffmaynard3836 no, does Tesla has one? In case you don’t know Japan has been developing robots for at least a decade now. Boston dynamics has robots that are much more advance in terms of control, stability and speed than what Tesla has currently. Don’t get fooled by Elon’s fancy terminology. Everyone is trying “photons in and control out” architecture in AI.
@@danharold3087 Elon’s plan is. Of course, not immediately. He is betting on selling FSD technology as a main revenue source for Tesla going forward.
@@dhui777nothing wrong with “fancy terminology” if it accurately describes the technology.
There is no fear in this Dojo ! 😊
Kramer dominates the dojo now that he found his Katra! ;-)
40 times more powerful. That's scary insane.
80times more power needed
120 times😂
It's also not true.
Unless Tesla present chip is about ten years old. Moore's law.
sure it will sure.
. Maybe so, but Invidia has beaten them by light years! Not to mention 1x, also light years ahead!
I don’t care about the Tesla supercharger system. I live in Vancouver British Columbia Canada, and 90% of my charging is done at home from 110 V 12 amp plug. to date any extended travelling and that I have done throughout our province, which is massive four times the size of Texas. I’ve never had a charging problem.
If they are not compute constrained, why do they need this more powerful chip? And since it will be available în 2 years, does it mean no real full self driving until then?
not compute constrained for FSD, not optimus or AGI
So now they are working on AGI? That s quite a task ;-)
@@dangrecu4034 Xa.i / openA.I / Tesla / Deep mind / Microsoft AND A DOZEN OTHERS etc are ALL pushing at AGI its the end goal for many big tech companies who will get there first is unknown Tesla is just a player that's all.
Staying ahead of the game
Dojo is for training. Currently they are using Nvidia GPU's to train. Dojo will just make training cheaper because the prices of Nvidia GPU's are monstrously expensive.
My opinion is Tesla will be the most valuable company sooner than later.
2 Years when these chips start really coming on board. 2 Years. So no big rush to invest in Tesla.
It’s a Tesla two years, they are like dog years.
What is the chance that a new business segment is = chip?
Slim. Tesla wants to keep a good working arrangement with NVIDIA
if this chip would be on the market tomorrow it may be special, but in two years time others will have 1000 x or more.
Source please
Unlikely. Nvidia tends to 5x performance per new AI chip.
@@michaelnurse9089And it’s just for AI optimization. The real power doubles about every 2.5 years.
Last I checked Tesla is using a NVIDIA chip instead of the DI in the new DoJo.
When FSD is released will it follow the speed limit & drive people crazy especially on freeways where traffic can move 5 to 10 + mph faster?
There will need to be a reckoning for all agencies that set speed limits and allow traffic to drive over the limit.
Why would it drive people crazy?
You just have to pass. Pretty simple.
I can tell you’re one of these impatient drivers that thinks speeding gets you to your destination faster. It does but only a few minutes faster. Is it really worth it .
Nope!
👍👍
The chip will also be used by xAI.
Most people dont realise that dojo isnt for sales. They spend all the money for their own training. And no one else will use it. That is cost for tesla.
Let's go tesla!!!
An AI reply I got recently said "Work smarter - not harder" mmm, maybe that's relevant here...
Many of the experienced software engineers don’t want to work with Tesla. No job security or work life balance.
There’s no job security anywhere right now.
@@DynamicUnreal Tesla is the worst
@@MathewVarkey-lp6gp They fired a whole bunch of people, so did most of the big tech companies. However, Tesla gets more bad press because the press hates Elon.
Has there been job security for software engineers in last few decades. Last I checked a good number were training their offshore replacements.
Tesla's near term bot goal should be bots assembling bots
More vaporware from Muck.
👍🏻
BUT WILL THE AI CHIP RUN CRYSIS??
But will it be faster than Apples M100?
Where is my Mojo? Sorry, Dojo...
Ignoring the typical childish snarky comments by the peanut gallery below- Tesla leads in inference chip design and local compute by far. Nvidia leads on trading but fall behind on inference by bother power draw and complexity.
A 40x on this is a VERY big leap…
Meanwhile NIO boss visited NVIDIA CEO in their California headquarters.
Tesla's the only EV company in town to challenge the threat of the Chinese EV companies,all the other ICE legacy car companies are not even in the game,including some of the biggest in the business ....here's looking at you Toyota and VW!😂
Until it is available, including all the delays until then, and especially its yield, it is not even as capable as NVIDIA or Apple for free.
Big setback for NVIDIA😂
Not really Microsoft is buying all the AI GPU's
Not really.
Tesla's current chip is about 40% slower.
This 40% is make believe or what I like to call a lie.
Nvidia are ahead and will stay ahead.
"will be" the Elon-signum
Miles behind nvidia but they will catch up in “two years”😂
"Gime chingah, GIME chingah!" For the next hour at least.
40 times more powerful. From creators of: 1) hyperloop 2) tesla semi 3) tesla cybertruck 4) you name it
Tesla never created Hyperloop. semi is late to party but will be here later this year
ok on 4 I name Worlds best selling car, 40v architecture, leading in FSD (don't take my word ask China letting in a US company), giga casting, worlds number one in profit per EV, According to Sandy Munroe the best car engineering in the world bar none .. or many others you name it.
Hyperloop was a SpaceX white paper. Elon never worked on it.
How about from the guy that reduced the price of sending a kilogram into space by 25x, or the guy that put thousands of satellites into low orbit and gave anyone in a rural area of the world the possibility of broadband internet.
Jai Hind. Tesla's dojo could morph into an AI super Godzilla monster by using Photonic or Quantum chips.
Why is so much money and tech going into making self-driving cars...? I can understand this stuff going into militaries or something. But cars? Is there that much need to have self-driving cars even?
This is all game changing until Elon fires all the chips!😂
The headline is misleading. When you need 25 chiplets to get to 40 times compute power, your chiplet compute power only increases only by 50%. There is nothing impressive here. They are just combining chiplets. which every standard computer already does since a decade.
Current Dojo tray already uses 25 chiplets.
@@kazedcat The video says, moores law is not broken. And that is a factor of 2 within 2 years for chiplets. However they do it, it is some kind of chiplet combining. If you account for an existing 25 chiplet tray, the 40 times more powerful processing unit must have at least 500 chiplets. It is more likely, they did not account for their exising tray and therefore compared 1 single chip to their tray.
@@renezirkel current Dojo chip is at 7N process in 2 years time TSMC will be at 18A that is 4 full node jump if they double the area of the chiplets and increase the clock by 10% that's more than 40X improvement already. Completely inline with Moore's Law.
@@kazedcat The only way, you get now higher performance increases is, by comparing chiplet generations far apart. Are you kidding? This only proves the current Dojo chip is behind. And the headline is still missleading, as they dont jump ahead, but jump to the state of the art.
@@renezirkel It takes 5 years to develop a chip. On their first try it makes sense to use a mature node. When Tesla was developing the D1 chip that node was 7N now in their second try it is reasonable for them to go full out and develop for the upcoming process node 18A. Tesla doesn't have multiple teams leapfrogging between process nodes and developing multiple product generations at the same time. Tesla has one chip development team and they can only develop chips one generation at a time. Also this is TSMC marketing their advance nodes so complain to them for being misleading.
Stop posting old news or repeat what has already been published.
Are you asking for the Viking to know what you already know and don’t know? For me this was news.
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Thank you for posting this Viking
lol @ the new new version
Uh huh in 2027 I heard we’ll see 👀
So what, I don't need AI in my car. I need a cheap EV with long range that lasts 50 years.
And another thing, it is completely idiotic to invest in robots when the AIs of this world are destroying all jobs with intellectual requirements. So there will be more than enough people licking their hands.
If you think that the industrial revolution created a lot of suffering, job losses and starvation, the robotic and AI will remove more than 10 times the percentage of available jobs.
I was always going to happen. We have know this for 200 or so years. Our politicians and political scientist need to step up to the plate and make it work.
True full self driving has already been achieved by Waymo. The Waymo taxis have lidar sensor all over the vehicle for lots of redundancy.
Do you think that they will expand to other cities? Do they only use Jaguar ipace cars?🤔
Waymo has announced more cities that they will serve. Waymo is the current standard of robo taxis. That makes it difficult for new entrants into the robo taxi market.
When Tesla micro cars come out I will believe in this company.
There is no point in Tesla dumping significant CAPX into little cars so long a China intends to win the EV trade war by supporting their manufactures. When Tesla builds a car for less china sells their cars for even less. Tesla's hope is in building products that China can't.
Gotta make money and invest now guys! There’s gonna be no jobs in the future…😂
Even what Viking does an AI will be able to do.
Filter the internet for news, give opinions and predictions.
Yeah I think an AI program will be able to do that someday..
Gotta make that money NOW!😂😂😂
Of course not, only human beings can invent new things, AI stupidly merge clever old ones applied in quite similar situations in the past... Nothing can be lost, we need to prevent any problem and solve anyone which may be possible to happen
Can TESLA become a chip provider…? Hmmm
Not likely, but they can become a compute provider from their excess capacity.
42 times more powerful I think you'll find 🤣
It’s not worth trying unless it’s 42!
Con artist is coming out with another dream to make himself rich.
Dojo sucks vs Nvidia…by time this new dojo chip comes out Nvidia will be at least several generations faster as Nvidia spent 10 billion on R and D on Blackwell alone…unless ur willing to spend tens of billions like Nvidia on chip development it’s game over for Tesla dojo as will be leagues behind Nvidia and even if u spend that much Tesla lacks the software ecosystem so no one other than Tesla will use dojo which means they can’t scale out the costs like Nvidia. Nvidia will have each year their top of the line data center AI chip that is 4x faster than previous year. That means by 2026 Nvidia top of the line chip will be 256x faster than H100. Game set match Nvidia…Jensen playing 4d chess while Tesla plays 2D
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This don’t mean a thing without comparision with other chips. It could be that Teslas chip today are inferior to the competition. Tesla do this and Tesla do that is just repetitative nonsense. Tesla is the last company I would buy anything from, no trust at all left.
i don't care AI chip is 40x more powerful. i want a cybertruck with 2x range.
Oh ya, well I want a jet pack and flying cars. 😆
This will come once 4680 ramps higher. 50% of the battery area is empty in the CT.
@@michaelnurse9089 Likely because they’re planning an LFP 4680 battery. Ultimately, it’s a more durable battery chemistry.
Go Viking....Go Elon go
Ok, I have been an engineer for 30 years in the semiconductor industry.
If Tesla are using a chip 40x slower today than it will be using in 2 years time. The chip today must be dreadful.
As per Moore's law you expect a 2x increase every two years. As this is the expectation of the density of the transistors increase. This law has been steadfast for 60 years. This is the general throttle on CPU speed.
The manufacturer of the chip TMSC is scheduled to have a 2x increase in chip density by 2026. Tesla have nothing to do with the increase.
So either Tesla chip at the moment is a bag of shite or Tesla is lying.
I suspect it is both. Looking at the the present specs it is currently about 40% slower than Nvidia chip of a similar nature.
So expect a increase but never a 40x increase. So as usual tesla and Sam are lying.
DoJo is about processor connectivity and having the data where it is needed by the processors. Tailored for training.
My point still stands.
40x is not going to happen. Unless the system it using is terrible.
Training needs a lot of CPU power.
That's how it works. If it uses tiles interconnected CPUs or a mixture of both. 40x won't happen as the physics won't let it happen.
Again unless Tesla present system is horrendous. Which is isn't, it's not cutting edge, it is middle of the road about 40% slower than Nvidia current setup..
@@patrickkavanagh3504It’s just the usual Tesla pumper boosterism, it never stands up to scrutiny.
Legacy CEOs are gonna have to ask their self, When Tesla throws the switch to wake up the autonomous fleet, Will any of our cars wake up with them? Time to swallow a little pride guys becasuse when it comes to FSD, Its not a matter of "IF" anymore. Start the licensing conversation. Because when Tesla hits the switch, You'll be stuck with cars that nobody will want.
When,,,,,
Musk in 2019 said it would be within a year. It's 2024 and it's still not here.
Mercedes are ahead of Tesla. They are the first company to be allowed to have level 3 in the US. Tesla and co are at level 2.
Last time I checked mercedes were in the classes as a legacy car maker.
Are you on drugs 😭😭
@@patrickkavanagh3504 Cant drive at night, cant drive in the rain, it needs a lead car, needs lane lines. wont work over 40 mph.No AI. highway only. Level 3 my ass.
Is it classified as level 3
Yes
Does Tesla have level 3.
No.
Tesla's autopilot has been linked to hundreds of crashes and at least 29 deaths. Including a period in which they tended to smash into parked emergency vehicles.
Tesla use it drivers as crash test dummies. Dummies is the right word to perfect it FSD.
Mercedes are using a measured method which is more successful and safer. Hence safe level 3.
@@patrickkavanagh3504 Well after 8/8 Merc will have a decision to make also. Just like Gm (gave up on ultra cruise) Ford (gave up with Argo ai) And what do you want to bet that's the major automaker Tesla is talking to? And Stallantis (did they even try?) VW (gave up with Carriod) Shit even Apple said fuck it.
Autopilot SAVES lives And has the numbers and BILLIONS of miles to prove it. Govt cant ban it because the numbers don't lie. And Even with the software in its present state, my car will go where i point it. And yes i did say SOFTWARE. And thats why i know Tesla is going to win. Legacy SUCKS at software. You are not going to win autonomy with "hardware" no matter how many sensors you hang off the bumper.
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So if the first one did next to nothing, 40 x that will next to something.
You must be an ignorant person!
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Tesla is not a car company. Tesla is dependent on Chinese.
Whole murika is dependent on Chinese 😂
Tsmc is not Chinese, it Taiwanese and it s also why China wants Taiwan joined back to the mainland as China wants the prowess of the likes of tsmc for its self.
@@brettmciver432Taiwan is the name of an island. The government controlling Taiwan is call The Republic of “China”.
Not really but humorous to consider.
@samanthajones4877
It's independent of China and Chyna wants what it has.
Dojo doesn’t do anything.
And what’s „duh-duh“?
Last all faith in that company due to Musk.