Elon Musk reveals Tesla Full Self Driving is close in Europe & China
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- Elon Musk reveals Tesla Full Self Driving is close in Europe & China
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Yeah - we all remember when Musk told us Robotaxies were imminent and threatened potential Model 3 lease customers that they would not be able to purchase their car at the end of the lease because Tesla was going to take them for their own fleet of corporate Robotaxies. That was more than five years ago.
🤡
Shhhh... must keep drinking the koolaid.
The Telsa Semi has had this ability since reveal day!!!!! Pepperidge Farm remembers
The funniest thing is that other companies have robotaxies driving in San Francisco and Los Angeles for a while now, but Tesla keeps promising robotaxies 'soon' as well as working FSD :) At this rate North Korea cars will have fully working FSD before Tesla's
FSD is amazing. But I have been playing with it for weeks now. It still is years away from handling all edge cases safely.
2030
I'm sorry. I have a Tesla model 3.
I'm driving in Norway. The road markings are the same in Norway as in America.
FSD is for me a joke. On the highway in the summer:
1. I have to take over every 3-5 minutts.
2. If there are a bridge over the road with lower speed, the car breakes.
3. It can't read digital signs, or road work signs.
4. If it's road work, or the markings is gone. The car can't drive.
5. If it rains the car can't see the road. (And we don't get the poring rain like in the tropics).
And, in the winter you can hardly use the autopilot.
The new ones dosen't have lidar, and test from NAF (Norwegian automobil Agency), shows that the car can't mesure the lenght in front when it parks.
My car was sold with FSD. But, I think you need a massive hardware upgrade just to get something that resembles full self driving.
But did u had the latest FSD? 12.3?
You do not have fsd software which is used in USA, it was not released for europe yet.
this is what you call progress, 10 years ago it was unimaginable 😅
@@klikar1982 Really? Even for someone in Europe who purchased it? Even so, I’m in the US and I’m not impressed with FSD. I got tired of taking over during the free trial and have reset my car back to AutoSteer - Beta.
@ev.whyking I believe there are limitations, such as a 40 mph speed limit. Still, it is quite an achievement by Mercedes.
It has been a year or two away for 10 years now, wake me up when it can take me grocery shopping without a drivers license :)
Do your research, invest in Tesla!
@@lucadellasciucca967 Got a few bucks invested there.
If they can achieve what they promise then yes, it will pay off. But it is a 60%-70% chance right now. Probable, still not likely.
Never bet on a single horse (and yes, I would not invest in most legacy auto companies, though I still believe Ford, Hyundai and Volvo has a small window of opportunity left - at 25%-40% chances of success).
@@lucadellasciucca967A lot of us did the best research. We evaluated FSD during the free trial. It’s not ready. Not even close. Elon has a spiffy ride share app - but the cars still make way too many mistakes to be viable Robotaxies.
@@lucadellasciucca967 I did invest a few bucks in Tesla. From where I stand I see it like this:
EVs taking over the world before 2030 - 99.999% probability. Virtually Certain.
Tesla beating everyone else to true FSD - 55% probability. About as likely as not.
Tesla coming out with true FSD before 2030 - 40% probability. About as likely as not.
Legacy auto surviving - 5% probability. Very unlikely.
Ford, Hyundai/Kia and Volvo surviving - 30% probability. Unlikely.
Nothing is set in stone when it comes to the future and AI is not yet a proven technology. That said, I do have high hopes, I'm just saying don't buy the hype :)
Musk could probably pre-sell Fusion power... its just a few years away.................................. /s
I would like to see Tesla's FSD vs delivery ebikes in China ( they don't stop for just about anything)
That's what all wheel drive is for, don't high center on bikers as easily.
Old mercedeses has solved this....
They have a star you can use to aim with... 🙂
😂
Interesting. I figured it would fall miserably in pedestrian safety.
It is a toy and is not close to regulatory approval.
Great and as a RHD now I can visit America or Europe and a reason to hire a car FSD co it can bring me anywhere. Looking forward to that.
Old drivers - like me - will never trust FSD cars completely. But old drivers - like me - are not as sharp as we were and WOULD LOVE the assistance that comes from FSD
You will trust it when it earns it for you personally, and it will.
Good point that it need not be autonomous to be valuable.
Oldish guy like me feels the same, but I can see this being reality in the next 20 years and Tesla way ahead with this so will be the market leader, if not the only viable product.
Gives you a chance to nag the FSD seemingly you have no one to do so. 🤣
It just takes time to trust something
I am subscribed to FSD on my Model X. As brilliant as it is, still not good enough. Way too frustrating and indecisive.
The way a human interacts with a car while driving is like playing an instrument .. you are ENGAGED through mind & body ... shoving FSD in the middle of that, is STRESSFUL, why would people pay money for that discomfort? IMO, this technology should aid a driver in some way, like crash avoidance, etc.., WITHOUT interfering with their driving engagement.
Supervised FSD v12.3.6 - First Impressions Drive
Chuck Cook
Good Call..
To adapt FSD to Australia simply install the FSD chip upside-down, head over heels. For UK flip the FSD chip over sideways.
When full self driving actually works its going to jam up every single ....location... with peoples' cars circling the block because they dont feel like finding parking while they "just pop in for a moment"
Something is "close" from Elmo the mumble king could mean over ten years.
The approval process in Europe is not for real FSD as in Robotaxi. Jeg are just trying to get it apprioved as a level 2 driver aid.
FSD is not ready to drive itself. Its not even up for discussion. Its objectively the way the code is written.
What are you talking about? Fsd runs on neural nets, not written code and is very close to being ready for robotaxis.
LOL. Neural Nets are written in code. 🤣🤣🤣
@@JoeyBlogs007 so you're agreeing with torben777 that neural nets are not the way to go
You don t know what you re saying and nobody is arguing that it s for robotaxis.
Do your research, invest in Tesla!
@@JoeyBlogs007 Feeling smart hei?! xD
The neural network is written in code, which has nothing to do with what the car does! Whatever you see wrong or right with the car behaviour is not because of written code.
People talking badly of tesla FSD have not recieved and experienced FSD version 12.3.5/6 yet
Awesome 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thanks for the visit
@@electricvikinghe never said that it was close in Europe. In China yes it’s close but in Europe the UNECE regulation still blocks FSD since every maneuver has to be driver confirmed which is the opposite of the FSD philosophy.
So as long as UNECE required every maneuver to be driver confirmed FSD won’t be available in Europe.
FSD V12 is almost ready for Europe as shown in Munich a few days ago but it won’t be allowed
Title of the video « Elon musk reveals Tesla Full Self Driving is close in Europe and China »…:
So the title of the video is shit ? That was my point.
Cheers mate
Confusing, LHD can mean both steering wheel on the left side of the car, or car driving on the left side of the road. Just did a quick google search. But anyways its the steering wheel on the left side of the car i guess.
HOW MUCH MORE IS A VEHICLE GOING TO COSTS? I LIKE TO DRIVE. DOES THIS MEAN THAT WE DONT NEED TO:HAVE A DRIVING LICENCE?
Just a small brain comment , if Tesla mirrored all the training data it currently has and uses it’s weightings would it give them a good start for left hand drive countries
Morning mate
It's not FSD because it's supervised driving. It's pointless and deceptive for automakers to be calling it FSD when it's not. It's SSD only "Supervised Self Driving". Basically collision avoidance technology at best and even that is questionable. It's a recipe for disaster if people take their hands off the steering wheel. Glad you acknowledged that Sam. I think there's way too much hype around this technology , promising as it is for the future. Personally I see no point in paying for this technology until it is fully certified FSD and that could be a decade away. FSD Technology to be accepted in this context has to be better than humans 99.999% of the time, for it to be accepted as completely hands free certified FSD. No car manufacturer has cracked 100% FSD. I'm surprised that Robo taxis are even allowed at this stage. This technology implementation is just another exercise in controlled chaos, in the hope that one day it will resolve. I hope they do eventually reach full FSD capability, however I don't see that occurring for many years. They have left the difficult stuff until last ( highly variable and unpredictable edge cases ), so the real AI assisted journey has only just begun.
RIGHT... it's just Extremely expensive SAE Level 2 autonomy... the FSD take rate in the USA hasn't been huge, and will be lower than that in Europe and China. The additional FSD revenue ain't going to amount to much.... IMO, Tesla has grossly OVER invested in this if they need to sell it for $100/mo.
TSLA up 25% in 1 week. This isn't unusual. If you shorted, learn from your mistake and move on.
Love is a funny thing. Money and earnings are abother. Go Elon !
Ford's electric vehicle unit reported that losses
soared in the first quarter to $1.3 billion, or
$132,000, for each of the 10,000 vehicles it sold in
the first three months of the year
Has been going on for a couple years now.
The same is happening to almost every EV maker.
Do your research, invest in Tesla
Hats of if a Tesla can do FSD in Norway in the winter when snow cover everything. White out. The front of the car freezes to a compact block of snow and ice. On my Kia Niro EV it takes 10 minutes before all driving assists stop functioning. The biggest problem is all the pot holes in the roads. Can it be pot hole safe and notice all the speed bumps that is hard to see especially at night? In Norway we have many bad speed bumps that easily damages the front.
Works in Canada
Do you have a video of a Tesla with FSD selfdriving in a blizzard over a mountain pass? In Norway when driving over mountains in the winter we have to drive in a convoy and the only thing we see is the light of the car in front of us. And we drive in 80 km/h.
How abt battery in Nordic winter? That's the only thing I worry abt EV right now
8000 dollars are still to mutch for the normal working person, it need to be half the price, for a normal working person.
99 dollars a month then much cheaper!
@@hamishbarrie8318 99 dollar is like 1100 swedish kr it is alot of money
Most people will go on subscription - like a mobile phone!
It's NOT full Self Driving. It's SSD only. Supervised Self Driving, no matter what else they call it.
It's highway robbery.
Seen Ray Kurzweil in a recent vid. He said agi will be here and we won't know it. Most don't know how close Tesla is to level 3. No it's not 100% but it's here. 90%? 97%?
I rather want hands-free driving on the highway than FSD
FSD does that now for me. I just have to rest my hand on the bottom of the steering wheel.
@@thomasaquinas157 I want my arms to be on the armrests...
👍🏽👍🏽
TSLA market cap up almost $200B on speculation of China/Europe FSD sales?? ... when only a minority of Tesla buyers opt for this VERY EXPENSIVE service. It's a big revenue adder guys.
To make it worth in RHD countries just vertically flip the video! (that a joke, ha)
It’s actually funny ! 👍🏻
Elon said rhd fsd is coming soon.
It is, but needs approval separately by every government - that’s going to take a long time.
He's being saying that for years. Probably a decade. 🤣🤣🤣
Fortunatelly most of the world is left hand drive, and unfortunatelly Australia is not :)
I believe the Mercedes system is hands free none supervised in certain limited circumstances with Mercedes I heard accepting responsibility for issues arising - happy to be corrected if I have misunderstood - so here we have our correspondent denigrating a system that is now legally usable at a higher level than what Tesla is proposing I believe. I would say the fair comparison s how the Mercedes performs against Tesla when not in the fully automated position - is that more or less limited than Tesla FSD as the fully automated is?
2 weeks just like the new improved auto wipers….
Elon Musk's plan is not for FSD to make your car better.
That is just an intermediate step while you train your replacement.
Elon's goal is to compel you to relinquish ownership of your car and convert you into a robotaxi client.
Go Tesla!
Mercedes is not autonomous since you need another person in front of you to follow.
True Full self driving is level 5. This means the manufacturer will have to foot the bill and consequences in the event of an accident.
I can't see Tesla ever wanting to do that!
Probably why agents have to give buyers an introductory drive to make sure that the buyer knows their responsible for accidents! I bet they sign for acknowledging responsibility as well!
Which makes "FSD" pointless until it actually is 100% level 5 FSD certified. It's SSD only. Supervised Self Driving, no matter what else they call it.
That’s a good point as it willl only drive liability costs higher for Tesla with little initial benefit. What other vehicles are FSD level 5 certified? There are many systems for aircraft that are perfectly legal to use but are not certified to such a level of reliability - although admittedly many less edge cases.
@@RandyP-jr1ek No cars yet level 5. Wamo may be 4?
You mention aircraft. No aircraft flies itself without pilot supervision. His responsibility!
@@grantrandall1674 Yes, I said they have autopilots basically, it same thing as FSD; but for EVTOL many are working on that same problem. Garmin already has certified auto land feature on SR22’s by pushing a little green button, so only a matter of time. And yes, I know the responsibility as I’m also a pilot. :)
@@RandyP-jr1ek pilot! So am I. Retired. And UK licenced engineer, retired.
Uber being threatened by fsd in the near future is absolute rubbish. First of all, true autonomous fsd is several years away. Secondly, Uber pays drivers almost nothing. The drivers use their own cars and most of their pay comes from tips. How much would a fleet of teslas with fsd cost? No, Uber can rest easy for years to come.
So if it loses interest connection, there's only one thing will happen!!
Did u used your brain when u wrote that? 😂
Not 80:20, but more like half as many RHD than LHD in the world.
India has right hand steering and drive on the left hand side of the road and is opposite to China and the US.
@@JoeyBlogs007 Right Hand Drive is the same as Right Hand Steering.
Jai Hind. My gut feeling is that Tesla will always come up Second best in self-driving as long as it sticks to Cameras rather than Lidar. Previously Lidar costs a bomb but now it is cheap as chips in China.
Check out the 2024 Beijing auto show Sam. The Chinese will eat Tesla's lunch.
But does this mean that any visual impaired person like my girlfriend can now drive anywhere she wants without having to rely on me to do the driving?
Wait till regulators and insurers stop this lunacy!
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Yeah shame we are right hand drive here.
Why would anyone want to take their hands off the wheel? It would seem to be a bad habit to get into. Never have I felt the urge to do this. When a Tesla can tell the difference between children and pensioner pedestrians I will accept that it can drive safely. Until then I will have to accept the privilege and responsibility of driving.
FSD latest improvements are incredible, but no one will buy it in Europe at its current price level
The US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says that self-driving has a "critical safety gap."
When the accidents pile up, which they will, restrictions will be implemented which will lead to this feature being mute.
I drove a Tesla with the FSD trial a few weeks ago and it only tried to kill me 8 times in 2 hours. I really don't understand the review videos I see with people gushing about it. Does it work better in some cities than others?
But Danny, why have they not piled up already in the billion miles driven?
Accidents are inevitable but what happens if accidents happen less often than human drivers? And then what happens if it becomes 10 times less and then 100 times less often?
@@michaelnurse9089 Because the people in those cars who were the test drivers who were told to be rdy to take over at any time. And yes, there have been Tesla accidents.
"Among all the brands analyzed, Tesla drivers exhibited the highest accident rate. Over the year that these brands were analyzed, Tesla drivers experienced 23.54 accidents per 1,000 drivers. It is difficult to say for sure why this is but factors such as horsepower and technology can have an effect on driver safety"
"How many Teslas have crashed on Autopilot?
Some people rely too heavily on the feature, and accidents occur. The Department of Justice launched a criminal investigation over a year ago after more than a dozen crashes happened while Tesla's Autopilot software was engaged. The NHTSA reviewed 956 crashes for which Autopilot was alleged to have been in use."
Lawsuits thus far against Tesla have been about whether or not fsd was engaged at the time of the accident. They roll the dice, and fail. Being a Tesla shareholder over the last 4 years, one thing has become evident:
People will do ANYTHING for $$.
Fsd will take some time to be approved, idiots will continue rolling the dice, most will fail, some will get lucky, and Fsd will be approved. Anything is possible when u throw enough $$ at it, and Tesla has thrown gobs of it. Fud will continue and Tesla will navigate it like it has already. I'm not buying more shares yet, but I await the crashes to do so. Thx Sam..good work
Great video… good channel…
Smash the like button for this man! Wonderful work Viking
Can we please not call it FSD it’s supervised FSD - Mercedes offer a full self driving option that is without supervision in some circumstances - Tesla needs always supervision I understand?
😂😂😂😂😂
I wish Tesla would stop calling it ‘Full’ Self Drive because at the moment it certainly isn’t and won’t be until numerous legal issues regarding liability have been resolved.
It's called full self driving *supervised*
@@jhunt5578That last word is buried in the small print.
You get paid for this. Righ?
@@molekulaTV I would be willing to bet it isnt allowed to be called FSD in Europe. They are a bit stricter on misleading consumers in Europe.
It is full. It's not perfect but it's full.
he didn't say that it's about Europe. it's a misleading video
You still here? Musk said? He also said he'd be on mars soon.
Fully autonomous fsd is still years away. What does that mean for musk’s promise of robo taxies late this year or early 2025? It’s baloney. What would be the point of robo taxies that require a driver to supervise? Please don’t take the statements of Tesla stock pumpers as fact. There is nothing bold and positive coming from Tesla within the next couple of years.
It will be interesting to see how much it will reduce insurance costs?
it won't. it will probably rise by 2x or 3x times. Tesla drivers already making more accidents on roads than any other brand and FSD is as bad as the worst driver possible.
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The lack of partiality detracts from the quality of the videos.
Tesla software is now too advanced to be fooled by weight on wheel any more to show attention
Game changer.
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The bet on FSD in August is destine to fail, The approval will take years and the insurance/damages Tesla needs to prepare a lot of money for claims from passengers claims for every accident.
The recent bloodletting in Tesla by Elon Musk was to double down on the autonomous strategy has a technology company. Tesla actually upset many of its loyal fans in 2023 when it clearly stated that Autopilot and FSD Beta were Level-2 driver assistance systems. This put Tesla's self-driving system below some Level-3 systems already certified in Europe and the US ie Mercedes and BMW. Consequently it is understandable why Musk doubled down on Tesla’s autonomous strategy otherwise they are being left behind and building a small car doesn’t resolve that issue.
I let FSD take me everywhere. Rarely have to intervene. Home to work and back never requires intervention, even with construction.
more Tesla gar¤age just for you. enjoy. lo
It will take a while to get this approved in Europe - remember it’s many many different countries with different governments. Will come eventually but don’t expect FSD to be a profit driver for the next 5 years. Eventually it will scale but it’s a very long term thing.
Mercedes system is ahead of Tesla's because it allows driver to keep eyes off the road. The system only was allowed in EU because Mercedes takes full liability. If Tesla would suddenly switch to Level 3 and accepts liability - I don't see why it would not be allowed in EU.
Nobody is going to get in an Uber without a driver my life is not expendable!
How do you know that Uber driver is not on drugs, is on a suicide mission because he loves Hamas? Or he just found out his wife cheated on him?
How do you know before you are dead?
I trust FSD
Lots of people will as it will be considerably cheaper. It will get safer and safer at driving eventually it will be 10 or 100 times safer than a human driver. At that point you would be mad to rely on a human driver! In my opinion 👍🏻
Nobody? So you never heard of Waymo?😅
Everyone will use the Tesla robotaxi platform as long as it's much cheaper than competitor ride services. Uber/Lyft charge ridiculous random fees, surge pricing, having to tip driver, etc which makes it way too expensive unless you are riding with 2-3+ people and can split the cost. Obviously Tesla needs to make FSD as smooth and safe as possible so there are almost no accidents or issues.
Teslas AI driving is safer than real drivers
Once FSD is perfected, the next law will make it illegal for you to drive yourself
It will never be approved. Can you imagine this Tesla garbage on English or French narrow twisting country roads?
It can handle it
I for one would love to see how it works, but me a Tesla in Britain and I’l be happy to try it out and let you know the results! :)
@@RandyP-jr1ek I don't want you endangering others and the government feels the same way.
@@thetissot740 it drives into oncoming trucks on 8 lane highways.
@@Withnail1969 I’m more qualified than most at least, and You are way overreacting to the safety bit - English roads are already a hazard to human drivers and have been since the beginning. Your govt. is stupid period for allowing such insanely narrow secondary roads. Only good for horses and buggies.