Tesla fixes the most complained about issue from owners with OTA
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- Tesla fixes the most complained about issue from owners with OTA
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As a Tesla driver, my greatest problem is that the wipers will cycle at odd times, but compared to my former Lexus’ problems, this is soooooo minor.
The car is so much less safe without stalks. You have to find a small target on a touch screen to adjust the wipers while you are DRIVING or know a magic combination on a multifunctional scroll wheel.
Just bring back the stalks.
I use the voice commands for the wipers, that works well. I agree that the combination to control via the button and scroll wheel is a bit awkward, but not as awkward as some of the stalks I have used in the past.
Those who can't stand cars without stalks should buy other cars. Seems like they don't understand that. The only thing they understand is complaining.
And the Ultra Sonic Sensors (USS)
@@greghudson9717 I still have mine! ;)
@@stuartcoyle1626reeeeeeeeeeach
I live in The Netherlands, it often rains here in different forms, so like drizzle, light rain, heavy rain, spray from wet roads etc. The automatic wiper function has been absolutely unusable in my dec. 2021 M3P up til now. Would be great if they worked properly now, especially if they'd wipe enough with heavy rain. Glad they have finally just given up and implemented a physical button. Best second best option after a hardware rain sensor.
1:15 If they would spend some spare change on 1 rain sensor it would be long fixed…🤯
Ignoring speed limit signs is my biggest complaint. Second biggest is changing to a lower speed limit when there isn’t a posted speed limit change. Third is phantom braking. Slowing on the highway is very dangerous.
You mean in May 2024 and Tesla has still not fixed Phantom braking? Still can't recognize speed signs? Tesla will be bankrupt by Christmas!
@@bubuneowoo6161 It is not FSD. Every Tesla car will have FSD by Christmas. And Tesla stock will sky rocket.
You have a problem with speed limit signs being ignored? I have the opposite, where it starts bing bonging me for doing 80kph in a 100 zone because it has picked up the exit speed in a freeway off ramp. Not that it matters, because if it did adjust to the supposed speed, it would be slamming on the brakes for nothing. As for the phantom braking, I have been lucky so far that I haven't had a tailgater end up in my back seat.
Yep, same corners every time it slams in the breaks! It hates oncoming motorbikes, but will almost dead stop if passing the on a right hand bend in right hand drive car… and if a car in front is turning right even in a turning lane, it slams on the breaks rather than passing in the left! Weird…. But reliably weird!
I would like an old style cruise control where I set the speed, I hate that the car changes my speed and as you stated the phantom braking is so dangerous, I'm convinced that I'll be rear ended by it at some stage.
The most important problem with Tesla - in my view - has been phantom braking. I can still live with that, but that's far more important than wiper issue. And no Sam, HUD is not required; you are better off without it when you get used to not having it.
I drive Tesla model 3 since 6 years, and never had a need for HUD. The best part is no part.👌
I've never driven a car w/ one so maybe I don't know what I'm missing, but it seems like it would be annoying to have a HUD.
Well you don't need 2 arms, living with 1 is fine, but it's much better to have 2. Don't need HUD, but it's nice when you don't have to take your eyes off the road for a speed check.
@@kenbob1071 it is very distracting. I drove my friends Lincoln navigator and it just sits right in your field of vision. It's a pointless feature honestly.
Not when it compromises safety, no HUD, no gear select, no indicator stalks and one pedal driving, a great way to retrain your brain just to lift your foot off the accelerator pedal in an emergency. There is a reason aircraft and spacecraft have buttons, switches, physical controls and pilots and astronauts have rigorous simulation training so in an instant they subconsciously make the right decision. Elon doesn't seem to have an engineers mindset, more finance and management if you ask me, but for sure "The best customer is a gullible customer".
model 3 is for those who cant afford the S and all the displays it comes with
Not having any rain in Melbourne for the last 2 weeks, you would think that I haven'y used the wipers, and you'd be right, but the CAR (Model Y) on the other hand has decided it was raining, in the city (no bugs on the windscreen), several times. Hooray if it is fixed. Now, if they can also fix the phantom braking, I will be extra happy !
No the wipers still dry wipe.
My main annoyance is the lack of voice control for the fog lights. The last thing I want to do when driving into reduced visibility is to fumble through the screens to get fog lights. To compound my annoyance, trying to voice activate the fog lights gets a response to the effect that 'that command is not implemented'. So the request is recognised, but not implemented. Have had weird wiper behaviour. Not a big issue, go manual.
to add insult to injury, the car actually accurately recognizes the command and then informs You it is not yet implemented.
It's not a difficult problem to solve. It's just digital image processing. They could use a neural network to determine if its bugs or raindrops. The image processing NN resets after each wiper swipe and records the initial screen state prior to the next wiper swipe. From there it simply re-counts the number of image pixel deformation elements on the screen image. i.e. rain drops or bugs. i.e. it breaks the screenshot image up into grid segments and does a check of each segment for a count of elements that match the criteria of bug or raindrop. That can be used as a basis for controlling both the swipe rate and when water squirts are required to clear away bugs and mud splashes etc...
I agree totally. They could even use every tesla to train the model by understanding that manual intervention was a signal they auto wasn't working optimally. A neural net and that much feedback from cars in all conditions all over the world would have it perfect in a month!
It uses vision. How does it not already use AI to interpret what it sees?
I own a model 3 from 2021. They are definately not fixed yet but far better than before.
2019M3 here. Phantom breaking seems gone. Never missed HUD. Finding Fog lights always a challenge to find when you need them, fortunately seldom. Why not automatic? The car has 6 camera’s to figure out that it’s foggy… Windscreen wipers only issue left. Manual fix seems silly when my Volvo fixed automatic 10 years ago.
I have absolutely no issues with the wipers on my Tesla! My 2022 Tesla Model S Plaid wipers perform perfectly! Washing the windshield or in rain the wipers are excellent.
If it going to be on the car, it needs to work perfectly. While manual override works for me, some people don't like the idea they might actually have to make a decision and have to physically DO something.
When I can use fsd in Michigan in a snow storm I won't have to use wipers until then if I'm driving I can just turn them on myself
The point missed is that the autowipers used to work much better in the past. Yes, they weren’t ideal and some complained about them but basically I accepted that they could be flakey at times but mainly ok. Then it all changed a year or two ago so that the autowipers are functionally useless. And having to keep adjusting wipers on the screen as opposed to a stalk (as you get with other cars manual system) is actually dangerous as your attention is taken from the road typically in conditions where you need more focus on the road, not less.
I look forward to receiving this update so I can use the left scroll wheel instead.
I haven't had any issues, but I use Rain-X.
Rain x and dont bother using wipers.
I use rainX and still have wiper problems.
Every car I’ve ever had I’ve put rainx on. Great stuff and cheap.
Good change. This will not require looking at the screen. You could also program the left scroll key, but using that required first a long press on the scroll wheel which is slow. This will be a lot faster. Still hoping Tesla will improve the automatic wiper mode. It does seem to have improved a little but it does not yet work as well as systems with dedicated sensors.
After update, light rain in my area and they went full speed after 30 seconds it reduce the speed to something better. I need to see how they react in low light early morning or dusk when automatic is pretty useless. Also have driven into heavy downpours at night driving the freeway and they would not turn on.
My wife had an Audi for 12 years and the auto function there was light years ahead of the Tesla.
She now has a new Forrester and i will say is the backup warning is amazingly, I was in the Home Depot parking lot had a large plumber van on 1 side and a pickup on the other side. As I started to back up, could not see around the van myself, nor the backup camera, but the lidar, sensors pickup a car coming down the aisle and gave a warning.
Also it gives blind spot warning based on the approaching car speed, if it’s coming at 10 miles over your speed, it notifies much sooner, than if it’s a couple miles faster.
I would like my M3 to be as responsive in notification.
I tried a couple of Cheap aftermarket HUDs that used GPS to be my speedometer but since my model 3 didn't have an ODBII port, the speedometer was slow to update speed. I'm sure the $500 dollar ones that connect directly to the ports would work well but I don't need a speedometer that much.
What pisses me more is that is activates the wiper when you activate cruise control and even more worse that it activates high beam when you start autopilot. Why on earth is it not possible to permanently disable this???
Same here!
Me too!
Is this why i feel like im getting blinded by every tesla driving towards me?
It’s possible to turn them off but usually it’s needed
@@asdasdasdasdasd9795nope, they just have bright standard beams
Hyundai Elantra 2017 had the best auto rain wipers I've ever tested. It even had 5 individual settings for the auto mode which you can find tune the speed and then forget. Forever.
Tesla needs a head up display. Every time you look to acquire the info on the display it takes around 3 seconds. In that time you cover approximately 50 metres!
A good HUD that works with polarized sunglasses would be awesome!!!
Ioniq 6 works very well.
Also has head up display.
Maybe, but doesn't have LFP batteries (yet)
210K Bravo!!
Agree. Tesla needs a proper windscreen head up display
Only suitable for disabled drivers. Too few need them.
I have a 2012 Merc C Class and the automatic wipers are not great, wiping when you don't want and not when you do. I found replacing the wiper blades made a big difference but manually adjusted intermittent would be much better.
Teal is 10 times worse for auto wiping than other manufacturers.
The phantom braking is the other massive issue
Hello mr Viking ;)
Thx for the update-info.
I too am often puzzled or annoyed with the wipers functioning incorrectly. Glad for all improvements that are comming.
Also, I am most interested in finding an adequate HUD-solution. Any feedback from you will be appreciated.
i drove a lexus before m3p. the lexus auto wiper allows sensitivity fine tuning. very intuitive. don't really understand what tesla engineers do everyday that this kind of intuitive refinement is absent for years. and the other thing i miss is lexus cruise control. it was just plain and ordinary but worked. i gave up m3p autopilot any level as phantom braking occurs at the least expected moment. now i am forced to drive manually the m3p with an oversold driver assist hype.
Glad to hear!
I hope this has gotten better, but I am not optimistic that it is fully solved, because it is ultimately a sensor problem not a software problem.
I can see that a software tweek could make the problem a bit smaller, but it will always be missing perfect data compared to a dedicated rain sensor.
I never had a problem with auto wipers in an Audi or BMW. And of course when the problem does occur, it is made even worse in a Tesla, because of the lack of dedicated stalk controls for the wiper.
So why don't you bye Audi or BMW?
HUD should have been standard in all cars 20 years ago.
My son inherited an old Nissan from his mother in 2004. It was probably over 20 years old then. It had a proper HUD.
Many people don’t want the visible distraction. I like them, but they need to be customizable. Easily distracted people will crash more often with these enabled.
I agree not interested in hud it just gets in the way. They probably should make it an option for people who want it if theres a decent percentage that do want it. Curious what percentage of owners want it
@@user-de1fu4vi9sHUDs are not at all distracting. Having to look where to press on a screen, that’s distracting.
I call that 'the Hawaii setting'. I never understood the fastest wiper setting on all cars until I was driving in a Hilo downpour. Literally a full constant sheet of water on the windshield and you cannot see a thing....unless the wipers are on ping pong championship mode.
Rain x. Solves most wiper problems.
A couple of weeks ago I was driving at night on FSD and the wipers activated. I think it mistook falling pollen for rain.
sometimes my wipers activate while driving through a tunnel, maybe vision based system interprets loss of light as changing weather.
There was an update almost a year ago that let you cycle through the 4 options using the left scroll wheel by pressing the wiper button on the end of the stalk then clicking the scroll wheel left to right - the only change with this update is instead of clicking left to right, you now press the button on the stalk and scroll up and down - this is not the monumental update being portrayed here - and it still has nothing to do with auto wiper accuracy - just a change to the manual inputs.
This channel isn’t known for its accuracy.
I am still really happy to see this! But, I was hoping they'd fix that thing where when playing a long mp3 file such as a blog, if I pause it, park the car, and return 12 hours later, it loses its place and starts over. Sometimes I feel as if complaining about features in my Model S Plaid is going beyond first world problems and into the realm of Kardashev scale type I civilization problems.
I honestly think this is a symptom of the mandela effect. I’ve just sold my 2yr BM, before that I had an Audi S5, my wife has a Merc, before that a Mazda. In all of them I’ve had to override the auto wipers, they were all too slow to react in some conditions. Tesla just gets so much attention as if they are the only ones who can’t get it right. Granted there are issues, yesterday I left it to its own devices and the screen was totally covered in water and it still didn’t turn the wipers on. On balance I’d say they are no worse than my previous cars, at least not that I can notice.
I literally didn’t know there was an issue with them until I read about it.
My three biggest peeves about my Tesla are indeed the wipers, followed by no HUD and no Apple Carplay. I will probably be adding a second screen with Carplay at some point.
I was so hoping you’d tell me they were calming down the lane departure warning! I don’t want to turn it off but I am getting tired of it screaming at me like I’m about to die, when I’m still 2 feet from the lane marking. It’s especially annoying on country and mountain roads! It could start off gently and rapidly increase in intensity if you don’t respond… 😢
ive wondered for a long time now why the wipers were so irratic. now i know the reason and look forward to Tesla fix it with this update. Next fix the auto lights so that a reflective sign doesnt trigger the lights
Tesla, don't add a head's up display before you fix this wipers issue. It's such a pain
I resorted to using voice commands for wipers. The auto wipers are terrible. I bought my Tesla a couple of months ago, and it came with the wiper control you talk about, I was hoping for a fix for the automatic function.
You can use sign language for all the tesla functions.
Millions of Tesla users suffer from a saving of ~2$ for a tiny rain sensor, which has worked well over 50 years in every other car 🤦♂
The best Elon is no Elon!
Tesla camera works better than rain sensors. Rain sensors belong to the past. Everyone will use Tesla technology.
Well that's 2 million USD saved 😂
And to think this all could have been avoided with traditional manual wiper speed controls on the stalk.
Why? When they fix iir without. Musk understand more than you ever will.
I dislike the dry wipe, even if the windshield is pretty clean, the dry wipe will streak the few bug splats into something much worse! I’ve applied rainx and don’t need most lower speed windshield wipes anyway.
Biggest problems are rapid financial depreciation and climbing insurance due to EV's being written off more readily.
Poor autowipers is a pain because for the last 25 years all my other cars had them and they worked without flaws.
Now, let's talk "phantom braking"....
I like my X having HUD but the Y I've driven didn't bother me at all not having it
Heard that one before.
Best part is no part... Except a 1$ rain sensor! Aaaargh!!!
Best car in the world for the money. Wipers is fixed 99,9% allready. And is getting better.
My auto wipers in my MSP have always been terrible. Elon should have left the rain sensors in the S and X in order to collect rain data against camera and then used that for training data. Instead they dropped the sensor and just hoped to find the data to get it right.
I’m surprised that the headlights don’t come on when the wipers do. As there’s no voice control for lights, it’s back to the touch screen, taking attention away from the road.
I own a Tesla M3 since 2021, a UHD option would be a great thing.... not an add-on, but a real display (laser projection) on the windscreen.. one should be able to choose/ select which items to display , 3 to 4 Max... I don't think that will happen.. it's more a : "What could wr remove type of thinking.." my new highland model has no more sensor nor radar..
This is game changing!
😁
Again 😂.
Yup. Even fan boys say their auto wipers suck. I agree.
I have done this update 2 days ago in my model Y rwd and now the auto wiper will not stop wiping on a dry windscreen I am a long time Tesla owner so I know all about cleaning the glass around the cameras. This is just hopeless Tesla !!!! FIX THE PROBLEM !!!!!!!!!
Does anyone know why when I press the stalk button the wiper speed box comes up on screen but scrolling the left scroll wheel just changes the volume? I've not had time to look and am probably missing something simple!
Auto Wipers must be able to be turned off ( manually) DURING auto pilot. This is the big problem
The other issue is turning blinkers off. Having to slightly push them in the opposite direction often causes the other blinkers to start. It is pathetic and is enough for me not to buy another Tesla.
True
my 2022 m3 has had no wiper issues at all
I have no wiper issues. Because my car is old and it's all manual. And with stalks, never take my eyes from the road.
I got my Model 3 in June of 2019. The auto wipers were problematic at first but several updates later they started working very well and continued to do so. Now, however, I find the auto wipers useless and dangerous. I seemed to start having problems about the same time many people began to complain about them! It’s puzzling.
Do some of you already have this version 2024.14? I’m only on 8.9.
Me too. 8.9 yet
I've had a model s and model 3 for over 5 years and can not remember once having any kind of wiper issue.
Do you live in the desert? 😂
California weather eh? Always sun, never rain 😉
I have a Model 3 and the wiper issue barely happens and is only marginally worse than the Mazda 3 we owned.
@@gbw28 Even my Renault ZOE does a much better job than the newest Teslas. Through the magic of a 1$ sensor.
@@marcusfleuti2672 our Mazda had a sensor and still had the occasional issue with the wipers.
For such a technology forward focused company, they sure don't adopt useful technology. A hud would offer some peace of mind of keeping your eyes looking forward and not reducing peripheral vision by having to look over. Maybe use all those top level engineers and innovate the traditional hud.
The autoviper are the worst I have experienced. My 23 year old saab does it perfectly. I dont want my wipers starting if it is -20'C or having to disengage them every time I activate cruise control.
Wipers still rubbish on my M3. My Bmw i3 perfect, My Mini cooper S perfect, even my 34 year old MX5 miata has better wipers (although not automatic) . Tesla wipers are a safety issue. Just done a 5 hr drive round M25 London in rain and constantly having to select speeds manually, the auto wipers take to long to wipe so have to manually wipe. Love my M3 though
The auto wiper functions in my Volvo works well. My Tesla hummmm annoying
My Volkswagen does the same thing. If the sun hits the rain sensor just right, it will activate the wipers even when they are completely on the off position. Volkswagen says that’s normal operation 🤣
I have an Audi, same group as VW and I have driven Audis for twenty years and that has never happened to me . The auto wipers have always worked well.
So these cameras are confused bu rain,bugs and more…yet these same cameras are part of their camera only ‘full self driving’? Give me a break - it’s v close to manslaughter imho.
Can these functions be altered while driving? If so, is that complexity and having to scroll through multiple steps, safe? Am I wrong?
Its not safe.
If bugs, pollen etc land near the auto pilot camera then you want the wipers to wipe that away, just saying.
my biggest issue is not the annoying wipers, its the phantom braking, and leaves me driving manually to avoid the car slowing or braking for parts of my drive that it just find that section to trigger it every single time, it's really unpleasant, give me basic dumb cruse please.
I wish you could tell auto wipers to NOT use the fastest setting. I’ve never in my life needed wipers to move that fast. To me it’s annoying and distracting.
How about intermittent wiper? There is no reason why they couldn't have made this infinitely variable.... unless there is a physical limitation by the motor.
I'd rather Tesla fixed the phantom braking when using autopilot.
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Yeah the wipers are a joke. They turn on when you enter a tunnel but don't start in the rain until you can't see anything and when the rain stops the wipers keep going... it's very frustrating. Also the adap. cruise control stops working when it's heavily raining... especially when it's dark. Guess one of the downsides if you want to have a camera-only system to cut costs
The silver lining is that at least theoretically they should be able to solve the problem in the future and patch the fix to all of their cars.
@@matiashamalainen7965 true and they have made progress... but it's kinda sad that they can't make the wiper automatic work correctly after years of work and numerous software updates
@@matiashamalainen7965 They have been trying to fix it for years.
I really want the scroll wheel to have like 10 speed settings instead of 4. Maybe it’s just me, the 4 standard settings most of the time is not the right speed. 😅
The Sensors that they use in these things seem to be sensitive to the amount of light and small drop size does not work well.
This also happened in my BMW. But it never went manic it just didn't wipe enough. Speaking of dumb control placement having the
parking brake on the right stock is very non intuitive I have hit that several times unintentionally if I going at a good speed it just
gives me a warning if slow it will stop the car dead. I am used to having wiper controls on that stock in pretty much every other
car I have driven. These aftermarket displays are not HUDs they are just Aftermarket Instrument Clusters. Lots of Ytubes on these
from the usual Tesla Ytube people . I don't miss the center screen that much the big problem is digging through the menu's
if you want to do something. Also my Y goes through about 4 times as much wiper fluid as any other car I have ever had.
I bought concentrate to keep up with it looked for leaks around the wiper pump or disconnected hoses found none. I mostly control
the wipers with voice commands . It seems to like word minimum wipers as opposed to slow wipers best.
It’s not the biggest problem, but it’s the most hysterical to watch. It’s one of the reasons why I wouldn’t go near FSD - if you can’t wipe the windshield automatically, I cannot trust your automation
Yes. The Tesla wipers suck. They should have just put a rain sensor in. I never had any complaints with my bmw auto wipers. Teslas just go berserk for drizzle. And nothing when it’s sideways rain. 🤦🏼♂️
The ideal windshield wiper speed is not achievable because in my car we have 3 opinions, FSD opinion, my wife's opinion and the only one I car about is my opinion as the driver is MY opinion.
p.s. I rarely have an issue with FSD's opinion
p.p.s. I haven desire for a heads up display
Afternoon mate
That's not a HUD.
The auto wipers on my ID3 aren't good. Then again, I have low expectations of any VW software. Tesla's software is so damn good that the average perfprmance from the auto wipers gets a down vote. That's my understanding anyway.
The games, the farts, autopilot and next month they might fix the auto wipers? Why don’t they get the basics done first?
Finally… fully autonomous wipers 😂😂😂
Perfect is the enemy of progress.
Thanks Yoda.😊
The 900-pound battery is the big problem of Tesla
I guess that is mostly your big problem.
tesla model 3 weigh same as BMW M3.
That what makes tesla great elon
Hyundai and Renault's work fine.
A rain sensor would have avoided this problem from day one, ridiculous
It’s all down to Musk’s obsession with cameras and AI.Rain sensors are cheap, reliable and proven to work. Why reinvent the wheel?
@@tatata1543 Because that's what geniuses do. And the stupid are busy with their own Stone Age thinking.
@@beehappy7797 😂
Also it doesn't recognize 110 speed signs, 100, 120 and 130, but 110 no!
Also frequently doesn't recognize leaving residential 30/40/50 kmh limits going to national speed limit on B roads, which is 90 kmh in Hungary.
So, you're driving along at 50 kmh in front of a column of impatient drivers and thus have to ignore what the car is saying - autopilot is unhappy about working far above what it thinks is the speed limit. Waze is far better at knowing what the speed limits are for what roads without using any vision.
Is a real issue. All governments will have to adopt better speed limit indication standards. Make the rules the same. In USA the visual speed limit signs are more accurate than the navigation maps. The signs are used in court judgments. Seems like using both methods could be best for now. If sign, use it for some distance. Use map if no sign recently.
My 2022 Model recognises 110 signs.
Latest updates solves most of the issues and easier to adjust wiper speeds.
Which issues does it not resolve?
@@tatata1543 Your mum.
Automatic wipers is stupid. It should be manual.
Yea the proxy vote for TSLA on fidelity still not available as of May 6th!
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