Civic Type R FL5 Crashed Hard...Totaled
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 มี.ค. 2024
- Title says it all. The journey with this Type R has ended, but she saved my life in exchange for hers. This was a classic case of driver fatigue, and lift off oversteer. The journey is not over. THIS IS WHY YOU BUY TRACK INSURANCE! I'm banged up, bruised, and sore, but I ultimately walked away. For those of you that want to leave nasty feedback...just don't...your mother taught you better!
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Went off in exactly the same way at Turn 9 about 5 years ago, when I was still new to track days. Rear liked to step out at Turn 9 and my hands were too slow. Luckily I just went for a little ride through the grass, but could have rolled just like you. Glad you're okay, and if you're not already, I highly recommend putting a lot of hours on a sim rig at home. It is the #1 thing that improved my car control and has kept me on track over the years. Again, very happy you're okay.
I'm planning on doing just that since I'm going to have some down time between cars. I have a friend that lives nearby that has invited me to use his sim setup on several occasions, and I've just never gotten around to it. He stopped by my work yesterday, brought me a six pack, wished me well, and said something to similar effect about sim racing. Needless to say, I'll be spending some time on his sim setup. Thanks for the kind words! I'll be back out on track soon enough!
I second the simrig time too. Great way to hone instincts and get valuable track time.
How is your set up like?
Gt7 ❤
@GearsandGasoline: I'm subbed to your channel. Funny to see you commenting on a video I randomly clicked on😁
Btw...love what you did with the RX7. I sold my '93 FD a little over a decade ago because it was just getting too expensive to maintain the rotary and all the old, brittle parts. A lot of people were doing LS swaps at the time, but I just wasn't feeling that for the FD. K-swapping is really cool though. Still keeps it JDM that way.
Ex polo cup driver and racetrack instructor here. Never unload like this with FWD cars in high speed corners, and if you run into a situation where you accidentally still do - full throttle. FWD cars are super easy to correct even at massive speeds, as long as you push throttle and countersteer if necessary. You were trying to passively ride it out which got you into the situation. An expensive lesson ;) glad you’re okay.
So in this case, he should have throttled and counter steered? What would happen if he brakes? Genuinely curious!
@@snoopyalien24 If he braked, the weight would shift forward, thus speeding up the oversteer and would be sideways quicker. If he throttled out, the front end would pull forwards and straighten itself out with proper countersteer.
@@snoopyalien24yes, never lift
Looks like the main mistake is, he did not countersteer enough
Experienced lift-off oversteer once in a DC5 integra. Tried flooring it, all that did was make the front wheels lose traction and I four-wheel drifted into the grass 😂
Hey I was in the white 128 yesterday. My heart just about dropped when I heard. So glad you’re okay. Hang in there.
Thanks man!
you were flying bro but yeah glad he's ok. You can't belive it's happening in that moment.
Wyatt, chief driving instructor of VIR.
So glad to see you are okay, I wish you a quick recovery and hope to see you back on the track soon!
Thank you, Wyatt. I'd love to get some seat time with you one of these days!
Dude I found this because somebody reposted on TikTok, I wanted to come to the source and say thanks for posting -- I know it must be hard to put something like this on the internet. But it means you have a lot of courage, and I think we all should appreciate it. That sequence of turns is nasty, and it looked like an easy mistake to make. I hope you bounce back quick and stronger dude, and I'm subscribing to see when that first upload comes out
Thanks for just being a good human dude!
I was in the Blue E30 in group 3 with you, wreck looked pretty scary with all the safety vehicles around. Glad your okay, and hope to see you back out when your ready!
E30s rock!
Bad wreck and glad you’re ok. It was lift off over steer, not a tail wind.
When you lifted off the throttle mid corner the rear wheels lose grip and the fronts become loaded. That’s what did you in, not the wind.
I've struggled to rewatch this, and the session in general. I'd have to agree.
@pointbypatrol thanks for sharing your experience. Also cool channel name.
I don't really hear a lift off although I suppose at this speed doesn't take much to upset the balance. It looks like the semi-abrupt/late steering caused an unintended weight transfer. Inducing oversteer through overly quick steering input can happen on throttle if you are going fast enough.
Exactly! The tires were also getting hot and greasy as well. You could tell with every lap they were getting worse and worse. Glad you’re ok man. That was a bad one.
I’d have to agree. You have to react to the back of the car braking traction a lot faster too if you watch the video you barely counter steer at all be a lot quicker to react and be more confident with the car it will react to your input
Can't tell you how shocked I was when I saw it was your car that all the trucks came out for. Not hesitation to head straight to the tech shed to see if could go to the med room. Huge relief to hear there was laughing in the room and to see you walk out. Video definitely makes it scarier; that is not what I imagined. Thank you Honda safety.
Glad to see you’re ok, man. I was in the white 996 last weekend and you were wheeling that car. Shit happens and that part of the course is so unforgiving. If you look back at my old videos I did same thing in my M3 and went off backwards. Letting off at that point with all the weight transfer can be a scary recipe. Hope to see you out again soon.
I had a good time trying to keep up with you! We had some good sessions! Hard lessons learned!
Gotta say that I’m impressed with the community’s reaction to this video. Everyone is thankful you’re alive and for the video so we can all learn. Have a speedy recovery!
I appreciate that. Thank you!
So sorry, I'm glad you're ok!! I wrecked my 2004 RX-8, it's scary. Then, there's that moment after you survived where you slowly start to realize that the car did not. I went through all the stages of automotive grief, including buying an RX-8 shell thinking I would Frankenstein her back to life. This FL5 will be missed. I've been really enjoying the channel, got a 2023 Boost Blue and I'm definitely going to follow some of your mods. Thanks for the content!
Hate that happened to you! Be careful out there!
As someone who has walked away from 2 relatively minor crashes on track, I'm glad you're doing well both physically and mentally. I just picked up an FL5 myself, and will be tracking it this season. Thanks for sharing.
wow. that split second where i can assume he tried to reach for a handbrake and realized he was cooked... truly heart stopping, so glad you were able to walk away
how would the handbrake have helped, im just curious
@@joshywoshy2530 thats the thing, it wouldnt help. Its just a human reaction, going flying off the road at over 100mph with a major wreck coming in less than 4 seconds, we'd all be desperate and flailing lol
A brave man puts his mistakes out there for others to see. A kind man shares these mistakes so thart others are saved by the lessons they teach. Thank you for posting this for the lesson it teaches. Glad you are o.k. and may your next Type R live longer!
Thank you for seeing value in this. I've received a range of feedback. Some good, and some not so good, but I know for a fact that I don't ever want to see someone in that ditch again!
Ben, Hope and I are thankful that you're okay, and we sincerely thank you for posting this video. It speaks volumes about your character. This video is a reminder that this can happen to any of us who participate in this hobby at any time. Regardless, this hobby is still safer than driving on public roads.
Be thankful you can even type this. The car gave its life to save yours.
Lift off oversteer in a FWD car is some scary shit, even *if* you are used to it. While it goes against all instinct, smashing on the accelerator pedal could have (potentially) saved you. Granted I have no idea how much track you had to the right of you to even attempt it, so armchair racing critique is guess work at best.
I've done driver coaching and here is a tip. Do some study on hand placement on the wheel. Also optimizing seating position. Factory cars tend to have the steering wheel too far away (fatigue) for best car control. Give up some leg room for a little more arm bend. You looked like you had a death grip with thumbs wrapped. You want a softer grip, (less fatigue) thumbs not wrapped, so you can react quicker & get better feedback from the steering. The car will tell you what it wants to do. Tight grip means you're not listening. You would have been able to feel the car going loose in the wheel and gently give the car what it wanted so it could correct. Remember, it's a relationship between you and the car and like every good relationship, communication is key. React to each other in symphony and you will have the time of your life as a driver.
Unless your wife is a dump truck, LOL!
Holy shit!!! Noooo!! I’m sorry about your R, glad you’re ok! That was an insane looking crash! I hope you heal up fast and get a new ride soon!
Subscribed, just for the fortitude it takes to be forthright and put your mistakes out there to try to help people avoid them. The kind of person I’d happily share a track with. Really glad you’re alright.
Thank you!
Shit happens man... be thankful you're here to write about it. Good luck on the recovery!
Much appreciated!
That's a bummer that your head came off when the car started to roll, but I'm glad the docs were able to reattach it! That tumble looked nasty!
I'm glad you're ok, I hope you're fully recovered! When I first saw the track layout at 1:08, that looked super scary lol. That's probably the scariest part of the track for me. After I saw the unfortunate accident, it appeared to be on that part of the track. That's just scary. I'm glad you made it out ok. I want to do track day one day, but yeah, I'm definitely going to buy track insurance.
You were flyin' dude. Hangin' w a 996 Turbo is no joke. Glad you're ok! No one can say sh!t about Civics nowadays :)
Never driven on track but you were doing a great job and I was surprised when the car lost control. Best of luck going forward and glad you were not seriously injured. That is most important.
It's hard to remember to pin the throttle when fwd cars oversteer like this to pull them back into line. I've been in a similar situation on track, it's very scary. I'm glad you're OK!
The car didn't slow when I still had compression. There was not enough room left to pin the throttle in this situation.
That's exactly what I was thinking. More throttle, but then you just go off track kinda straight as you can't make turn 10 at all.@@pointbypatrol Happens so fast.
What do you mean pin the throttle?
Pin the throttle to the floor...@@rjhick1
He’s telling you to put a bulletin board pin on the pedal. Hope that helps 😂
You're OK man and that's most important! But you should really get some driving lessons with a proper racing instructor, because you'll crash again if you keep on driving like that. You were understeering the car in most corners and overdriving it, jumping curbs without any reason for it, doing way too early apex in many corners, choppy steering wheel movement. And I'm noticing this as a noob. A racing instructor will probably find more. Wish you all the best!
That scream though! 🤣. No faking that emotion. Been in a few crashes myself. It's also crazy how slow it plays in your mind when it happens. I respect your honest responses in chat. Good luck to you!
Holy shit man. Sorry to see this. I am very happy you were able to walk away without major issue. Looking forward to the come back!!
I will certainly be back! Thank man!
Hope you have a quick recovery! Really appreciate you sharing the footage.
Thank you very much!
omg so sorry and sad to see this, but i am really glad you're ok... this was bad do thankful you're here man
Thanks man!
Thx for uploading, I think the moment all comes for us one day when we have to correct something like this in real life, on the road. And getting used to the idea and being prepared is so much easier now with these educational contents. So thank you.
Aside from the crash, this looks like a hell of a lot of fun. Glad you were able to race another day.
Wow... I was already sketched out by that section of the course. I'm glad you made it out already though. The car can be replaced. You cannot be!
Glad to know you survived to post the video dude. That's bad crash. I hop a speedy recovery and lots of good driving miles to you.
I wrecked my B15 Spec-V in a similar fashion a few months ago and I'm glad to hear you're ok and was able to walk away from that, FWD oversteer is extremely scary
Oh man, glad you are ok. I practice giving it throttle when in an oversteer situation like that on a fwd along with counter steer on the sim racing setup, sometimes it helps “pull it” back. You had very little time to correct tho and once you ended up in that grass there was nothing to be done at that point. Ooof. You were looking good out there. You only live once, you out there living your best life. That’s what counts.
Good driving my friend, just an unfortunate ending. Back in my day, they called that “stiff arming”. Meaning, based on what I saw, you were a little stiff on your counter steer. But as usual, that’s easy for me to say. It’s always a different situation when you’re the one driving. Nevertheless, I’ve been there my friend (rolled my car 7 times approaching turn 7 at Sebring while passing slower traffic on the outside), hope you get some wheels and get back to it soon! God bless you brother.
Perfect track to example the phrase,
" Never lift your foot off the throttle. "
I'm glad you made it out in one piece, having learned something about driver error and the importance of driver safety.
FL5 : They'll come back, they always do.
Thanks for posting. There's lots here for us all to learn from.
You bet
I've done this exact same thing in the sim on this turn a bunch of times. The sim crash is nowhere near as dramatic, glad you are OK. And thanks for sharing, will definitely stay humble and respect VIR when I eventually make it out there. Hope you bounce back 👍
I will certainly be back! My burden for living through this is to master it, and bring that knowledge to others.
OMG. I can’t believe it. Your pride and joy. Gone. I’m so sorry, Ben. Great to see that you’ll race another day.
That was some solid driving! Sorry this happened, but glad you walked away from it. Speedy recovery.
Glad you are ok! Total novice here that's been wanting to take a lap around VIR for awhile. I appreciate the video.
Hey man, takes a lot of balls and courage to post this. It's appreciated and your commitment to the platform that alot of learn from. Most importantly, you're alive & able to learn and recover from this experience. Glad you're alive, looking forward to what's next for you!
Take care,
-Anthony
Thanks, will do!
Thanks for sharing so hopefully some accidents can be avoided and glad you made it out OK! You should practice some oversteer control so it becomes second nature when you feel the rear moving. Many years ago I had a similar experience in a EP3 Type-R but even worse lift off (and braking) oversteer down a sharp tightening freeway exit at 70+mph, I love drifting cars so was able to quickly go to 100% opposite lock when the rear went and kept the car like 90 degrees completely sideways down the off-ramp just barely and with a 200 bpm pulse, part skill part luck I didn't end up on the roof like you did here. Be safe and have fun!
I've never been to this track in real life. But I do race vir in forza a ton, and I use rewind a lot on that turn. All jokes aside, I'm glad you're still with us.
Sorry about the crash, bud! I did enjoy watching this session though. You were in the zone! Sent me to a happy place hearing that thing zing.
This is probably the toughest aspect of really pushing cars on racetracks. Basically anyone who does this enough will have incidents, it is simply just part of racing. It sucks really bad when they happen at higher speeds like this. I'm glad you're okay, that's all that really matters now. The car did everything it needed to, it gave you some good times and protected you enough to walk away from a nasty accident. I'm sure this will stick with you and make you better for it in the long run.
Awe man that sucks, sorry that happened, glad you are ok. Cars can always be fixed or replaced hopefully the track insurance has you covered.
Ouch! Sorry to see that. But also the little helpless scream towards the end had me. Glad you walked away.
Glad your OK. Man you could tell at first he was like oh thank god this is just grass and then saw that dip and was like OH NO
Speedy recovery for you. I was not expecting the hard crash when you went off the track in a large open grass field.
I definitely wasn't expecting a ditch!
Could argue that it's bad track design? 🤔 Why not have the grass as flat as possible to avoid cars overturning like this. Good to see you came out OK man 👍
Very happy you’re alright. Looks like you froze. I’ve done it too, and it’s absolutely terrifying. Ended up in a ditch 6 feet deep. Everyone has moments like that and it’s all a part of learning how the car reacts. Definitely a knarly accident and I hope you can hit the track ASAP!
Glad you are OK and thanks for your courage in posting; that was pretty violent! A key learning point for anyone who tracks at VIR is that the uphill esses section is very unforgiving. There are only 2 very short sections within where you can adjust the balance or position of the car (before needing to make the next steering input) if you've made a mistake. But that only holds true if you've left some cushion speed-wise. The faster you go, the more margin for correction you remove until there is no room left to make a placement or balance mistake. Drive a simulator, purposely push hard in the esses until you make mistakes (and either fail or succeed at recovery), and you'll start to learn where the safe limits are.
When you lost rear end at T9, you were carrying so much speed that had you been able to correct it, you would have been well into the break zone for T10 and most-likely would not have been able to slow in time. Likewise, too much counter-steer could have sent you into the left-side wall which is quite close to the asphalt in that location. All considered, it worked out best that you went off track-right as you were able to scrub 60mph off your speed before encountering an obstacle (the ditch).
Wow, blessed to be alive. Rip to the fl5. Prayers on your recovery.
Damn, from the consistent understeer through the rest of the video I wasn't expecting that oversteer either even knowing there was going to be a wreck! The advice for sim sessions that others have made is great but I'd also recommend finding local autocross events as well if you don't go already. The tighter courses can often make oversteer much more common and since it's at way lower speeds it's a great safe way to turn *knowing* you need to countersteer into doing it instinctively.
Some race driver training will make it a more enjoyable and less expensive experience..but you live and learn..even the best make mistakes
As long as you and no-one is hurt!
Hi!
It was tough to watch, but here are my thoughts on it.
You entered the corner too hot, you lifted off the throttle to slow down the car for too long, and you ended up in a lift-off oversteer situation.
You could have counter-steered even more and/or quickly apply throttle to straighten the car, and never forget to look where you want to go!
The exact same situation happened to me twice last season, and I was able to save my Type R this way.
Glad to see you walked away from it. Every experience is a lesson learned.
Love your content, keep it coming!
This example wasn't as dramatic as yours, but it illustrates the consequences of applying throttle in such situations.
Unfortunately, I don't have my 2023 closest near-crash on video.
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That is fantastic advice, and advice that will make me a better driver. Thank you for your input!
This why RWD is the best for racing smh
It looked like he wasrunning straight when on the grass, what caused the roll? I probably missed something...
@@johngreen8693 giant ditch at the bottom of the hill.
Wow! Horrible wreck! Glad you’re still hear to drive another day! Heal up quick!
My friend's ek9 race car also went out the same way, but at different tracks. The rear just didn't want to hold on anymore. He thought it was probably because of multiple laps in a row. Overheating the tires that lessen its effectiveness at gripping.
Glad you are fine, though. Does your insurance cover this? Are you getting another FL5?
Dang. I was in this session and right by Hog Pen when we got the red flags. Glad to hear you are safe. Hope to see you out there again soon.
You were killin' it out there dude! Nice driving!
First, I'm glad you're alright.
Second, this is something I didn't see too many other people bring up, but it's something I think is very important to dig into as a driving coach/instructor. Everyone keeps mentioning lift off oversteer, while that's definitely true, I think an overlooked cause of the incident here that you may want to learn from is actually your steering inputs. (You may be able to do this better by using the audio, rather than the video, when the tire is screaming it's likely over the limit, and feeding more steering input isn't actually helping you turn)
It looks like the cause of the oversteer before the incident was brought on by a sharp steering input at a part of the track where the car was really fully loaded and at the limit of grip. In a spot like that, I always think of "teacups" or having light hands because sharp inputs can really upset the car in an instance like that.
Another big thing to think about is listening to the tires. There are a few spots where it sounds like the steering inputs might be a bit too sharp or aggressive and you're just adding more steering angle with understeer. That's something that has helped me find a ton of time in the real car and on the simulator while being safer.
I just through I would bring this up, because while yes, powering through the slide, and counter steering quicker and at a greater angle probably saves you in this case. Not throwing the car too sharply into this corner might have avoided the balance issue/oversteer in the first place.
Again, really glad you walked away, hope you have a full recovery, and maybe this feedback helps you or someone else avoid a similar incident!
Same thoughts. Glad he's okay but this should be used as a learning lesson. Also curious what type of tires he was running because they seem to have worn down quick even with the extra angle.
@donaldtuc yeah they didn't seem to be the best.
I always recommend autox as the best place to really dial in your instinct to catch oversteer, though for reasons like this.
When I do lap day instructing, it sometimes catches me off guard when people react to slides after they happen rather than anticipating them.
But that's 100% learned with a lot of seat time and experience. The only bad part is, it can really bite you on track, while at autox you're most likely just killing a few cones.
Nitto NT01
@pointbypatrol not horrible tires. Maybe just overheated from pushing through understeer?
I know you probably don't want to rewatch much of this, but listening to the tires scream from nascar to snake I think shows what I was trying to explain. Smoother inputs on the wheel, brake, and throttle will balance the car a bit better creating more grip at each corner. Also making it more stable and safer generally speaking.
Glad you walked away and thank you for sharing 👍🏼
well, you were doing OK for most of it. VIR eats cars tho, and it decided yours was next. Good that you have the insight to know where the error was and to come back stronger! Keep driving!
Glad you are ok bro! The track is the right place for that kind of speed. Sorry about your car, but a very small price to pay to see your family again.
That is GNARLY! Glad you’re ok. Keep an eye out for any weird behavioral symptoms later on, brain injuries and PTSD can be very insidious.
Great driving. Love the manual shifting. You make make the other "beasts" look slow. 👍🏻 But that was a hard hit. Glad you're okay. Keep on racing! 🏁
So glad that you are ok my friend 🙏🏻🙏🏻
God Bless you sir, I am happy youre alright
This was part of gods plan.
@@nafulleralways. Just have to recognize it and be grateful. Happened to me.
Holy cow you were flying! I’m so sorry that happened to your car, glad you’re ok. That spot always looks sketchy to me.
Ouch, sorry to see what happened, glad you are ok. Car can be replaced but a life can't.
Oof. As soon as I read the description and it said lift off oversteer, I was like "Must be the climbing Ss" and I was right. That was a rough one, glad you made it out OK!
I think this was pretty difficult for him to avoid that one, glad you’re alright
Whether rear, awd, or fwd, if you lift off in a corner and weight the front, you can get in some big trouble quick--I've experienced it myself. It's very counter intuitive. Glad you're ok. As people get better and better, they can brake later and even a little into a corner, but basically, brake before the corner, accelerate out. We all come in too hot at times though ;-0. And definitely YES to track insurance.
Glad youre good, so sad to see an FL5 gone so soon. Such a wonderful car.
Practice getting loose in cars more, especially FWD. You truly need to be comfortable correcting cars when they are beyond traction before going to such a high speed/high consequence track like VIR.
When you lifted and the rear started coming around you froze and kept your hands locked to the wheel. You needed to correct waaay more and add some throttle to settle the chassis.
As someone who has done some instruction in the past, seeing someone "lock up" and stop correcting oversteer is one of the scariest things to experience from the passenger seat.
I wish the best of luck to you going forward, and hope that you are able to progress in your driving skills!
Making this comment before actually seeing the wreck.... before the porsche got in front of you I was saying in my head how smooth you were and really working hard to run a good line. Shifts are so smooth.....porsche gets in front. Tires start screeching more shifts get noticeably more aggressive and running over every curb you could find. Not faulting you for what happened but trying to stick with that porsche seemed to cause a lot of bad decisions. Glad you are ok. That's racing.
Wow, really glad you’re okay man. Take care!
I'm glad you're safe. This incident underscores precisely why I ceased tracking-not due to fear of crashing, but from the realization that using a street car on the track involves too many compromises. It's not something I'm willing to risk damaging. My experience has taught me that owning a dedicated track car is the superior choice. It's about having a car that, in the event of the inevitable, you won't regret losing. A vehicle designed for the track spares you the attachment and potential loss tied to a car used in daily life.
I see your point. If he has a second vehicle, and has track insurance, and is willing to replace this FL5 with another car, do you think it’s still worth it? Seems like it would be if he accepts the risks. Are you saying it’s not worth it if it’s your only daily?
Glad you’re okay man! That was a big one.
Me during one of my grip races in NFS PROSTREET 😂😅 Ryan Cooper POV… TOTALED!
Jokes apart, that was scary, hope you are ok 😢
Glad you are okay, and despite it all THANK YOU for putting this on YT for people to learn from.
Were you wearing a Hybrid S by chance?
No, but I'm definitely going to be buying one! This was the closest to death that I've ever been in a car accident, and as soon as I saw that berm, I was sure I was going to die.
That's the ONLY reason I put this on TH-cam. I don't want anyone to have to go through something like this. What happened was completely avoidable...I just...fucked up.
@@pointbypatrol Takes a real man to admit that, both publicly and to himself. I spun at 100mph at Gingerman because I'm a dumbass and doubled down-on a bad line and a bad correction to the bad line, lift-off oversteer for me too. By the Grace of God there was nothing to hit in the 720 degrees I spun off into the infield.
damn this is a sad video for me its my new dream car , im sorry about your loss but the comeback will be better bro!!
Damn bro! Glad you're walking away from that one, most wouldnt. Hope to see you in another car soon.
Nasty tail wind.... insanity.
I'm wondering if fatigue had anything to do with this. if this was near the end of the day, or even two days of driving. Like just a big lift even though you know you need maintenance throttle through turn 9 just to keep things balanced. Maybe just a loss of concentration for just one second or something. I notice I really start to fall off mentally the second half of a two day event. I usually end up not pushing very hard the afternoon of a second day. Whatever the case, I'm always impressed at your level of driving skill. Glad to read you are looking for a new FL5. Hope you keep the channel going strong. Please do more content on this situation, even though it will be tough to do. Pics of the car, some commentary on how the insurance process goes, etc. thanks! Hope you are feeling better.
You got it!
I was gonna post the same. As I watched from start to finish i saw your lines changing slightly with a change in driving and thought he looks like he is getting tired. I just had this conversation yesterday with a few guys. They asked why are early sessions the best times and they asked about cars getting tired. i said no your getting tired and you dont realize it from the adrenaline. Sorry this happened. car look well sorted and a blast to drive. Whats next? Good luck with whatever it may be... @@pointbypatrol
Wow, ouch! You were SO lucky man, take care!
Glad you walked away. Those damn red laptimers... they seem to be present at most of the offs.
That was sad bro !! And im sorry that happened to you,,i hope you get better after that accident.
Thanks, man!
@@pointbypatrol 💪🏽🔥💯
driving it like a rwd! glad you're ok man sometimes we push it too far when in full send mode. I've experienced "same same but different" rolling my car at 85mph and walked away alive. Felt like sh*t about it for a couple months but got straight back to it. This will make you a better driver 100% Also I agree with other comments here, get a sim rig and sign up for iRacing asap. Being able to simulate driving awd, fwd, rwd, mid/front/rear engine helps the mindset/muscle memory when on the track. wishing you the best recovery bro! - FK8 CTR/FG4 Si driver
I seriously hope you are ok. I love this track and hope to actually race it some day, rather than just in sims. That corner has gotten me a couple times.
My dad owns a 2019 type R, it would be very scary if it happened his civic. I hope you make a good recovery!
That feeling when you know you’re about to wreck 😬😖😖. I’ve been there. Glad you’re ok dude.
That was wild! I was there when Phil with Element had his crash at when the wing on his STI ripped off at the start of the S's. I went off in my Evo in almost the same way when my tire blew out but you went WAAAAY out there!
So glad you were able to walk away! Scary AF to watch 😮
Glad you're okay, very sorry to see this happen.. im sorry man
Thanks for the support!
Sorry about the crash, glad you made out safe. A lot of good comments from experts here. My feedback is in your little mistakes, leading up to big crash. Your hands are moving all over the steering, hands shd stay at 9-3. you hold on to the shift knob for way too long, it shd be a quick shift and back to steering. You were overdriving the car and tires were beyond their limits. Over usage of curbing, giving point-bys while in a turn over the curb, just avoid that. I will suggest to get next few sessions or track days with instructors. Good luck 👍
Every person should take a rally course day it will give you that car control you never knew you needed in every situation on and off the track
Glad your ok cars can be replaced you can not 💪
So glad you are OK!! Scary wreck, glad you have insurance. Thank you for sharing... so much to learn or to be reinforced from this video. You turned in some really fast (2:09.xx) laps.... like it or not when we drive close to the edge small mistakes can have big consequences. It's almost a philosophical choice as to how close we should drive to the edge.... there is no correct answer.
Many people mentioned the lift. What no one mentioned is WHY the lift. Although we don't like it, we all have an early conditioning buried deep in our brains " when in danger slow down" that we got trained into starting the first time we got on a bicycle with training wheels and continued on in to street driving. Hard to totally purge that from our brain.
Nice to know about that ditch... will avoid that if possible.
Lastly is car upgrades vs. safety equipment. I totaled my car in the tire wall at the end of the VIR back straight this past Fall. At no time, as I was heading towards that wall, did I think to myself "Gee... wish I had spent less money on safety equipment and more money on boosting HP!" LOLAM ... laughing out loud at myself.
I have struggled to re-watch this video myself, and have learned a lot myself from this. I just hope it helps someone else one of these days.
Dam, that was a big hit, you're lucky to walk away from that one and just goes to show how strong modern cars are now days.
Dang man definitely difficult to watch that but glad you made it out alright!
OMG! So sorry about this! I hope you came out fine out of this, this is just crazy!
In a lot of pain, but happy to be here!