my daily is 14 years old and every time it runs without issues is a blessing. if i could have my pick for free, it's the GRC, but if i'm writing the check it's the WRX. similar enough performance for $15k less (there are dealers discounting new 2023 base models under 30k). meanwhile GRC is $45k & markups (still).
The WRX is 20 thousand dollars cheaper than the other two. Making it the bargain winner of the 3. Put a E85 tune on it and your making 340 hp and 390 ftlbs of torque.
@@mark_845the circuit edition in this video is $42.5k and that’s MSRP without markup. Good luck finding one without markup. Even so, $10k worth of mods on the VB WRX and it will take the GRC lunch money like a bully. That GRC motor is maxed out from the factory. A simple Cobb AP and an intake gives the WRX the edge, then you still have $9k additional to fuck around with. It’s clearly the better option.
@@mark_845 I purchased my VB WRX for 27K. I was actually shopping for a GRC but couldnt find one under 50K in southern CA at the same time. Honestly I couldnt even find a GR86 for under 34K
Here in Canada the WRX is half the price of the Civic Type R. Honda dealers in Canada need to stop selling the car for $80k+, it doesn’t make sense at that price.
@@vfonte218 There are Buyers = who paid more than $80k for Elon-gate so they could have Model S... 0-60/100 km in less than 3 seconds... Good for Nothing, but there are Mor0ns out there like Elon-Fans...
@@Wind_slash0 He's probably exaggerating the amount, the the reality is that dealers essentially circumvent this by tacking on packages (for example, some fabricated "Sport" package). Also, if a car is technically used, it can be sold for anything.
@LoveLikeaHurricane I disagree. Some Subarus certainly suck but the WRX usually has good reliability as long as you don't do stupid mods or abuse them.
It's a incredibly polarizing design to say the least imo! I liked the last two generations appearance much better, because they looked way more like an aggressive performance car!
@@raymondhachmishvili2483The rear bumper is a crime against humanity. I’d hate to see what your girl looks like if you think the VB WRX is good looking 😅.
@@jonasbaine3538Exactly Amen also forgot Subaru doesn't make the STI anymore not that the 2020 STI was any good or whatever the last one was. That 2015 Launch edition was a beast. 0-60 in 4.6 sec with minor modifications could smoke Mustang GT350s
We have a 23 WRX, and engine is great potential and nice, but compared to our buddies Type R on the Willow Springs track, even with coilovers and 200TW tires, the new WRX handling was terrible. Subaru engineer at the event was saying it's because the new WRX is built on the SUV global platform, so it's riding on Forester and Crosstrek chassis and drivetrain, front open diff and rear open diff with their SUV electronic brake vectoring.
@@panderalexander that is disappointing to hear regarding the 23 wrx handling! would've thought that's what they would've improved upon. type r has always felt amazing on track...wish I was out in West Coast to do Willow!
@kchen101 from the previous model WRX (VA) it handles a lot smoother and better. It has greatly improved when it comes to responsiveness and handling. But the CTR has always had smoother handling than the WRX and STI.
To be fair, the WRX's strong point is hard launches with a clutch dump, while dig races is the CTR's weak point. Put them both on a track (what the CTR was designed for) and the Type R obliterates the WRX.
The subaru is cheap compared to the other brands. And in one race, beat the GR Corolla from a drag. It would take the Type R in a drag as well even though the Subie isn't a drag car. There's a lot of head room with the latest 2.4 boxer and a proper tune is already making the wrx a beast. Corolla has only a 3 cylinder so the ceiling is a lot less. The markups on Type R and GR are huge making it way past 40k+ while the wrx is around 30k. I like the the interior on the Type R. The GR interior looks cheap and the front looks like a regular corolla. Subaru is the winner here for me.
@@timomomomo969 So saying your car is msrp and then adding 5k price which is price gouging and ripping off customers is ok because people will pay them? Subaru sent a letter to its dealers saying not to do that. Subaru is a much smaller company yet the wrx hit record sales a few months ago. There are people that pay for what subaru is listing their cars.
@@ks-bg5uk if you can show me where I said any of this was "ok", I'll send you my paycheck. NONE of these are "drag" cars, but the CTR would show the scooby it's tail lights on most tracks with actual turns.
@@timomomomo969 cheap interior, looks like the base model. 3 cylinder, not much head room to tune, small rear seat...out of the box the corolla does put better numbers on a track but this video shows that the subaru at a fraction of cost can still hang with the corolla. And if you anything about know subaru wrx owners don't stay stock. Tuning a 2.4 liter boxer engine and a few upgrades can make the wrx an 11 second car and still be cheaper than the small 40k+ corolla. It's all about what your prefer.
@@ks-bg5uk All this video shows is a 0-60. I assumed Subaru owners took to the track. But then again, when I tracked my Si, they were all behind me. Cheap interior? I haven't seen an Impreza series model yet that has a nice interior. Cylinder count? I bet you don't use that when some Mustang owner brags about his V8. Toyota also has a quality rep that Subaru can only dream of. Took them how long to address an inherent flaw in that water-cooled boxer engine.
WRX is great all rounder but predicted outcome being the heaviest and lowest HP and Torque of the three. I would still buy the WRX being great day to day car. Type R engineering marvel being so good and front wheel drive and putting down the power so well but too boy racer for me over 70 years old. I am sure there are older guys driving and enjoying the car however. Corolla squeezing that much power from a three cylinder is impressive but makes me wonder about engine longevity. Nice comparison.
Almost perfect launch from Type R, so 13.7sec is possible w/ new CIVIC TYPE R .... tuning Type R to 420-430 HP and 500Nm torque and the car is ultimate beast...
I knew the WRX was gonna lose from the getgo. Let's face it, those other cars have a SIGNIFICANT amount more power, and are tuned for actual track performance rather than "spirited street driving" (30-45HP). BUT I'm rather impressed with how the WRX performed nonetheless. Motortrend barely pulled a 6.1 0-60 time out of this car, more along the numbers of an old Focus ST rather than a brand-new sport sedan. The fact they got 5.5 (similar to the VA) out of this car shows its true capability. Also, while it may be a couple tenths off the Civic Type R, the PRICE is astounding. My premium with STI Short Shifter was $32,465. Cobb Accessport + MBRP Catback + AEM intake + Pro-tune costed a total of $2,000. Including Tax/Title/License, this car costed me a total of $36,000. It dynoed 308WHP and 342lb/ft on 91ACN (crappy CA gas). These new FA24 cars make power like VW and Audi, with simple mods netting 50-100WHP. GR Corolla and Type R may be more performance oriented cars to start with, but they command a completely untenable price tag. GR "Core" has an MSRP not that much higher than the WRX, but asking prices on these at dealerships average something like $50,000, similar to the last gen Type-R. The CURRENT Type-R has a BASE MSRP of$43,295. With dealer markups, I've seen asking prices totally eclipse even $60,000. For a CIVIC. It doesn't matter that it's "The fast civic". It's a CIVIC. These are BMW numbers for a car that was always meant for the everyman. And for those of you who immediately scream, "YOUR SUBARU IS A TICKING TIME BOMB," no, it's not. Subarus that are maintained well and modified PROPERLY with supporting mods right from the start tend to last a very, very long time. There are many 2002-2005 WRX and STIs that are still running on the road just fine. If you expect reasonable power out of them (280-350WHP), drive them well, and don't do stupid stuff with them, they are completely reliable cars. I've been owning, modifying, and tuning WRXs for many years. They are excellent when taken care of. I've yet to have a catastrophic failure out of one because I'm realistic about the limits of the car. These are not meant to put down 700WHP; they just aren't. If you want to do so, you basically have to forge and reinforce EVERYTHING to make them robust enough. WRXs are great for daily-driving performance, like I said, keeping it between 280-350WHP (maybe 400 if you push it, but at that point drive carefully). In any case, they are just way cheaper and will get to the same performance level as these other cars for very little money.
The wrx vs GR drag, the wrx won the 2nd race. 1st drag race was a tie. The wrx tune on this newer 2.4 engine is already making this car a beast for enthusiasts. And if you're looking to haul people, the rex is way more comfortable than the GR.
And some people are still going to disagree with you 🤦🏾♂️😂 I own a VB and I love it, I’m just wasting my money on making it look a little better and the I’ll start with some power mods but nothing crazy, I’m thinking about 320-340ish hp.
@@JoseRodriguez-um8jm if you’re in a state with 93 fuel, 320-340 is completely possible with only an intake, catback and a tune. These cars are pretty bonkers compared to previous gens. My 2019 took like $5K of mods to get to these numbers and required flex fuel…
@@JoseRodriguez-um8jm these cars will handle that 350lb/ft with stock internals no problem as long as you refrain from launching too much. I’d say an intake, catback, tune, and maybe an intercooler is all you need for that kind of power. If you want to be extra bulletproof, you can splurge a bit and get an oil cooler and an AOS or a catch can
At 10:00 into the video, it was at this moment that Sam became the people’s champ 😂 as a 2023 WRX owner even though the WRX lost the final dig race it was the right call to make Sam 👏🏽
How you squeeze 300hp from a 1.6L is beyond me, turbocharged or not. I'd be concerned about the durability of that Corolla motor. Nice races, Sam, keep it coming!
I think the same thing, but then Toyota has a reputation on the line as does Honda. I would give them the benefit of the doubt. Certainly not going to buy a turbo 3 from general motors.
The USA is accustomed to engines only on the market the designs of engines you’ve never heard about coming out of Japan by Toyota and existing and many of their cars is based on years of engineering… it’ll be fine they make a lot of economy engines with turbos
Out of all these cars the wrx motor is the least stressed. Stock it will last way longer. Tune it and it will be faster the the other two and still be cheaper 😂
The WRX did pretty well considering it was at least 200 lb heavier and down on power by 30-50 HP while being actually attainable and cheap relatively speaking. While the FA24 seem to take mods very well, I'm worried about the limit of the stock transmission. They should make a tS version that includes parts from leftover STI parts bin (like the TY85 STI 6MT transmission and Brembo brakes) and that would make it a much more sturdier modding platform to start with.
People always talk about tuning potential. I don’t care. I want a car I don’t have to tune or modify. I want to keep my warranty. I care more about stock comparisons than pipe dreams. Good video.
@@1anre Agreed. Took my circuit edition awhile to arrive, but was able to pick mine up for under sticker. My dealer honored MSRP as well. I've had my GRC for almost two months now, and I have yet to see another one on the road.
Remember turbo lovers , turbo has lag and gr suffers the race with such small engine, not bad to be that small but without the right pressure on the turbo the car is useless.
@ayyo5971 For a car with more weight and less power, and coming in about 20k less than the others, damn right it did! Plus the WRX makes very low boost from factory. If you don't mind voiding your warranty, a couple grand in tunes will make the wrx faster than both the GRC and Type R
He said "The WRX has better launch control". Bro the WRX doesn't have launch control. 😂 Honestly I own a 22' WRX and it's not the FASTEST ever but it's fast enough. Handling though, this car is AMAZING. (Could use some Brembos though 😢) The fact that the WRX beat the GR in the drag race though.. no way the HP was reported correctly.. this car has more than 274HP
Yup. 2.4 vs 2.0 and 1.6. WRX sadly is very detuned from the factory. But who buys a WRX to keep it stock anyways :p OTS 93 octane tune gets it to 13.1 second 1/4 mile. And that's with totally stock hardware.
@davothegreat9990 wrx is truly last awd sport car on manual ,which gives much more fun ,especially on gravel or snow. It is analog , it is reliable . Rs3 and a45 is like laboratory rats . It is very fast and very digital boring cars
A drag race can't determine much at all. Many more factors come in when determining what car to buy. We have 0-60 times for these cars so these tests are always ridiculous to me and one has to have the intelligence of a squirrel to watch a drag race.
That GR Circuit Edition's exhaust was sounding muffled as if it was chocked up. The WRX had the overall best sound stock exhaust. Thanks for putting this Compact Sporty sedan class drag together. This was the content we knew we wanted but didn't know who would put it together for us.
Man imagine how well that WRX will do with a tune, cause it is significantly heavier than all the other cars by over 200lbs and it's only getting 12lbs of boost lol the Corolla and Type R is getting around 20lbs of boost.
I would've liked to see how the STi performed against the Corolla. They shouldve used an STi instead. That's like using an civic Si to compete in this race lol
For the extra you pay for a civic or gr corolla you could buy a wrx put a intake , clutch upgrade, turbo back exhaust and a tune to make up the price difference and smoke both of them with ease.
Unfortunately that still wouldn't be the case, because Type R and GR Corolla are built on their own dedicated chassis/platform with LSDs, so they would be way ahead still on track. My 23 WRX with $5k in coilovers, bushings, sways, wheels, and 200tw tires, was way behind my husband's mostly stock STI at Willow Springs event. Subaru engineer at the event explained it's because the STI has it's own dedicated chassis with front LSD, center DCCD diff, and rear LSD. New WRX he explained is built on SUV global platform, so new WRX uses Forester and Crosstrek's chassis and drivetrain of SUV open front and open rear diff, no LSD, instead using SUV's electronic brake vectoring.
bro, who is that WRX driver? You can tell he is short shifting and not staying in power band. You can't hear the turbo in the cabin and he is traveling wayyy to smooth in between shifts. Look at the GR and how it's almost red lining and in between shifts you can see it pull back some. The WRX had none of that going on.
with some mods to equal the hp of the other two. The Subaru is still cheaper and would probably equal the Corolla or the Civic. But from a dig, no question who's taking it at that point.
The wrx I’d want in solid black. It’s kinda like the lower end models of the new tundra because of the black front. Black or grey look the best in my very humble opinion.
I love all these cars. Though after much consideration I ended up getting the WRX Limited with a bunch of OEM+ mods and still was way under the asking price of the Carolla & Civic. If I want extra power. I can easily get it from many performance shops that specialize in WRX. The aftermarket community for Subaru is by far the best.
@@Boom-tj6nn but AWD means nothing when it can't put the power done and understeers. We have a 23 WRX, engine power is great no doubt, but the handling is aweful, we put coilovers and 200TW tires, we reached out to Subaru and inquired why and they let us know the new WRX is only offered with opened diff and brake vectoring, like our minivan! They said the new WRX no longer has option for front LSD, rear LSD, or center diff, that they offered in previous gens.
@@panderalexander Sti’s came exclusively with lsd and some previous gen wrx’s except the va chassis. Also I said that the civic wasn’t all wheel since the dude in the vid said it was
WRX driver: after getting to 4th or 5th gear, you should have downshifted. You would have blown the GR to dust. I own the WRX. 3rd and 4th are high high gears to haul ass
Love your videos! may I add a car to the line up its a cadillac CT4 V has a 2.7L turbo non blackwing has 325h and a 2.0L turbo that has 235h that that may run with them
A tip on launching the gr corolla, sport mode on, turn off traction control, turn on track mode, launch at 4.5k rpm and you’ll be flying. I got 0-60 in 4.4 seconds
I stopped watching at the last dig between the GR vs WRX. He short shifts to second very early, allowing the Corolla to minimize the gap. Also at 8:29 look at how slow the gear shift happens, it's almost purpose. Who coasts gears like this at a drag?
That little Toyota GR is a lovely, great little package and for a 3 cylinder car it's definitely live up to more than it suppose to do , it's just the price is the problem but OVERALL I love it for the looks and performance this could be a everyday drive car in my book for real I give that little car 2👍👍 for Toyota innovation and technology.
As a GR Corolla owner, I noticed that you were maybe trying to preserve the clutch as you were easing on it rather than dropping it. These cars like tough love to get some really good results. I'll give it to you: It is not easy feat winning to a Type R, and you did it twice! However you could drop a second by driving more aggressive. Great races.
This is not a fair comparison. The WRX is a rally car, it can be drove in mud, earth and ice. Is not a drag race car. In an outdoor circuit is the best by far!
Sam might be the first person in the history of the world to say that a GR Corolla is a hard car to launch from the dig lol. It’s AWD, build your revs, dump the clutch, hang on for dead life. It really is just that simple. Results were as expected though. The lighter and more powerful CTR is faster in the roll races, the GR Corolla should have been faster in the dig races but wasn’t launched nearly as hard it could have been. But I get it, these are people’s personal cars and we don’t want to break anything 😬 And the WRX is the slowest of the bunch but far more affordable and can be an absolute weapon with some mods. It’s a win win win for all three of these cars honestly.
It's to heavy to launch it at say 6000 RPM. I have done that in my GR Yaris few times and the smell is real bad. I just don't want to fry the clutch. So no more. PS Fastest GR Yaris 1\4 Stock I have seen is a 13.1
Now that's funny. PS There was a guy somewhere on TH-cam who tried as many times to break the clutch He got to always 30 then replaced it with stronger one. GR Corolla would break even faster lol So people upgrade your clutch if you want to launch it hard or want more HP. Clutch will not take more than 350HP from GR Yaris testing.
@@Youcallthesebagels_ Yes but the performance bar for fast among enthusiasts lies around the sub 4 sec mark nowadays. Some even feel sub 3 sec. Sub 3 is perhaps extreme, but these are sub 5 , so…
Just bought a WRX. It’s at least 12,000.00 dollars less money and it’s the best value for the money. It’s a lot of fun. The others are just too much money! AWD too.
Yea 😂😂. I mean jokes a side. There is a big price difference between the WRX and the new corolla GR I think just under 47k sooo not really a fair comparison 😂
It's insane how much more hp you can make with this VB and still be within the safety range. I have had my tuned for about year. You can piss in the gas tank of the VB and make 50+ hp LOL
@@superplushvideos7968 This is true. But you can easily make about 330-350whp with fairly minor modifications. And that, tbh, would be plenty for this platform imo. The stock turbo is pretty maxed out in the GRC, so that kinda puts some limits.
How quickly we forget how to drive cars. Seriously. The GR Corolla has a real ebrake. Use it! Load up the engine against it and release on launch. I can't stand all these folks doing drag races and they can't do the most basic things.
idk why people are so caught up wirth drag racing these. a camaro SS cost about the same as all of them and will go faster in a straight line and sound better. maybe the VB might keep up but i would still rather have the v8 noises
If you put all 3 of these in any non perfect road conditions the WRX would smoke them. That's the allure of the rex, you can drive that son of a gun in any weather or road condition.
Keep in mind that the WRX is 30k with no markup. These cars aren't in the same price category. WRX should go up against Civic Si and Golf GTI.
To be fair, let’s get 10k modification on the WRX to match the cost. WRX would be way faster than that two heavily extracted powers.
@@joshwakawaka7409 not even 10k in mods, just get an intake in a tune and you pushing around 300 whp. Trust me I know because I got one and it pulls
my daily is 14 years old and every time it runs without issues is a blessing. if i could have my pick for free, it's the GRC, but if i'm writing the check it's the WRX. similar enough performance for $15k less (there are dealers discounting new 2023 base models under 30k). meanwhile GRC is $45k & markups (still).
How is reliability? I actually have the ETS intake but haven`t got the Cobb off shelf tune for my VB WRX.
Exactly, I picked up my wrx for 27K. No way those cars are worth 20K more than the wrx.
The WRX is 20 thousand dollars cheaper than the other two. Making it the bargain winner of the 3. Put a E85 tune on it and your making 340 hp and 390 ftlbs of torque.
Where are you getting 20k? A wrx is 30+ and a gr corolla is 40
@@mark_845the circuit edition in this video is $42.5k and that’s MSRP without markup. Good luck finding one without markup.
Even so, $10k worth of mods on the VB WRX and it will take the GRC lunch money like a bully. That GRC motor is maxed out from the factory.
A simple Cobb AP and an intake gives the WRX the edge, then you still have $9k additional to fuck around with.
It’s clearly the better option.
@@mark_845 I purchased my VB WRX for 27K. I was actually shopping for a GRC but couldnt find one under 50K in southern CA at the same time. Honestly I couldnt even find a GR86 for under 34K
@@seanmabey1609same here! I originally wanted the GRC, but markups weren’t it for me!
@@helicopterclam4256I have seen over 3 GRC circuits for MSRP posted in the past 2 weeks alone. They are not as hard as you think to find at MSRP.
Here in Canada the WRX is half the price of the Civic Type R.
Honda dealers in Canada need to stop selling the car for $80k+, it doesn’t make sense at that price.
Such a rip off who would pay $80k for a Civic
Anyone who pays 80k for a civic type R is stupid
@@vfonte218 There are Buyers = who paid more than $80k for Elon-gate so they could have Model S... 0-60/100 km in less than 3 seconds... Good for Nothing, but there are Mor0ns out there like Elon-Fans...
But adm is illegal in Canada 🤔
@@Wind_slash0 He's probably exaggerating the amount, the the reality is that dealers essentially circumvent this by tacking on packages (for example, some fabricated "Sport" package). Also, if a car is technically used, it can be sold for anything.
Given the absurd markups on the GR and CTR, I feel the WRX is the best value for your $ by far.
Stage 2 can get some serious HP with the VBs 👍
Subaru anything…. Is almost always worst value. Only in North America would it even be anything due to nostalgia and marketing
@LoveLikeaHurricane I disagree. Some Subarus certainly suck but the WRX usually has good reliability as long as you don't do stupid mods or abuse them.
And its rwd base so more fun
@@chrish8487stupid mods? You mean mods that you can do to all the other cars in its segment? Those car blow up more than almost anything else Ik.
For the price, the WRX all day!
Also for the looks, and exhaust note.
Best looking WRX to date, and the 2.4l engine seems bullet proof
It's a incredibly polarizing design to say the least imo! I liked the last two generations appearance much better, because they looked way more like an aggressive performance car!
Nah, it’s slower than the Elantra N too.
@@raymondhachmishvili2483The rear bumper is a crime against humanity. I’d hate to see what your girl looks like if you think the VB WRX is good looking 😅.
@@DM72513 each to their own.
The rear bumper just needs a red accent leap to it like many owners added, you can see pics online, it looks really great
Pour a drink for the lack of STi. We miss you.
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Subaru had a decade to keep sti relevant and failed. Now lots of cars/suv is awd and turbo and cheaper than sti
I told my Dad post 2018 they all went to shit because he wants a 2023 STI. The STI Launch edition was the last true STI.
@@peterbennett4124 the early gen cars were best. Raw and pure driving experience
@@jonasbaine3538Exactly Amen also forgot Subaru doesn't make the STI anymore not that the 2020 STI was any good or whatever the last one was. That 2015 Launch edition was a beast. 0-60 in 4.6 sec with minor modifications could smoke Mustang GT350s
I got tye WRX and with a cold air intake and Accessport with a $150 eTune its a dream machine.
At some point, someone's going to teach that man how to drive huh?
I own a FK8 Type R and man the WRX was impressive! Not a fan of the way the new WRX looks but the 2.4 L gives it so much potential
We have a 23 WRX, and engine is great potential and nice, but compared to our buddies Type R on the Willow Springs track, even with coilovers and 200TW tires, the new WRX handling was terrible. Subaru engineer at the event was saying it's because the new WRX is built on the SUV global platform, so it's riding on Forester and Crosstrek chassis and drivetrain, front open diff and rear open diff with their SUV electronic brake vectoring.
@@panderalexander that is disappointing to hear regarding the 23 wrx handling! would've thought that's what they would've improved upon. type r has always felt amazing on track...wish I was out in West Coast to do Willow!
@kchen101 from the previous model WRX (VA) it handles a lot smoother and better. It has greatly improved when it comes to responsiveness and handling. But the CTR has always had smoother handling than the WRX and STI.
Wich one is better. So …
I'm shocked by this. On a daily basis, my 23 premium handles like a dream. Then again, I don't autocross my WRX.@@panderalexander
I’m by far most impressed with the WRX!
You got that right. Especially when considering the markups of the GR and CTR!
Lol
Bang for your buck! Those other two are stupid expensive for what you get.
To be fair, the WRX's strong point is hard launches with a clutch dump, while dig races is the CTR's weak point. Put them both on a track (what the CTR was designed for) and the Type R obliterates the WRX.
@@TheBreakfastLover but can the type R rally ? Or race in snow ?
The subaru is cheap compared to the other brands. And in one race, beat the GR Corolla from a drag. It would take the Type R in a drag as well even though the Subie isn't a drag car. There's a lot of head room with the latest 2.4 boxer and a proper tune is already making the wrx a beast. Corolla has only a 3 cylinder so the ceiling is a lot less. The markups on Type R and GR are huge making it way past 40k+ while the wrx is around 30k. I like the the interior on the Type R. The GR interior looks cheap and the front looks like a regular corolla. Subaru is the winner here for me.
the reason the other two carry markups is because customers will pay them. Why aren't they willing to pay them on the Scooby?
@@timomomomo969 So saying your car is msrp and then adding 5k price which is price gouging and ripping off customers is ok because people will pay them? Subaru sent a letter to its dealers saying not to do that. Subaru is a much smaller company yet the wrx hit record sales a few months ago. There are people that pay for what subaru is listing their cars.
@@ks-bg5uk if you can show me where I said any of this was "ok", I'll send you my paycheck.
NONE of these are "drag" cars, but the CTR would show the scooby it's tail lights on most tracks with actual turns.
@@timomomomo969 cheap interior, looks like the base model. 3 cylinder, not much head room to tune, small rear seat...out of the box the corolla does put better numbers on a track but this video shows that the subaru at a fraction of cost can still hang with the corolla. And if you anything about know subaru wrx owners don't stay stock. Tuning a 2.4 liter boxer engine and a few upgrades can make the wrx an 11 second car and still be cheaper than the small 40k+ corolla. It's all about what your prefer.
@@ks-bg5uk All this video shows is a 0-60. I assumed Subaru owners took to the track. But then again, when I tracked my Si, they were all behind me.
Cheap interior? I haven't seen an Impreza series model yet that has a nice interior.
Cylinder count? I bet you don't use that when some Mustang owner brags about his V8. Toyota also has a quality rep that Subaru can only dream of. Took them how long to address an inherent flaw in that water-cooled boxer engine.
WRX is great all rounder but predicted outcome being the heaviest and lowest HP and Torque of the three. I would still buy the WRX being great day to day car. Type R engineering marvel being so good and front wheel drive and putting down the power so well but too boy racer for me over 70 years old. I am sure there are older guys driving and enjoying the car however. Corolla squeezing that much power from a three cylinder is impressive but makes me wonder about engine longevity. Nice comparison.
Almost perfect launch from Type R, so 13.7sec is possible w/ new CIVIC TYPE R .... tuning Type R to 420-430 HP and 500Nm torque and the car is ultimate beast...
GRMN Yaris and Corolla 😊❤❤
The WRX has crazy tuning potential with the big 2.4 and very low factory boost.
And the moment you tune, warranty is 100% void. Even a blower motor failure, nothing is covered, nothing! Period
@@kevbiker3982not entirely true just the cause of the issue would be u tuned your car …. Your issue not their
@@kendricklewis3220 Absolutely true! Warranty is gone. End of story. And yet, they bring them in for warranty repairs. Declined!
This why you get your hands dirty and do it yourself.
@@HB-gj5bd just replace an alternator for my boy I’m filthy ……..dirty ain’t even close 😭
I knew the WRX was gonna lose from the getgo. Let's face it, those other cars have a SIGNIFICANT amount more power, and are tuned for actual track performance rather than "spirited street driving" (30-45HP).
BUT I'm rather impressed with how the WRX performed nonetheless. Motortrend barely pulled a 6.1 0-60 time out of this car, more along the numbers of an old Focus ST rather than a brand-new sport sedan. The fact they got 5.5 (similar to the VA) out of this car shows its true capability.
Also, while it may be a couple tenths off the Civic Type R, the PRICE is astounding. My premium with STI Short Shifter was $32,465. Cobb Accessport + MBRP Catback + AEM intake + Pro-tune costed a total of $2,000. Including Tax/Title/License, this car costed me a total of $36,000. It dynoed 308WHP and 342lb/ft on 91ACN (crappy CA gas). These new FA24 cars make power like VW and Audi, with simple mods netting 50-100WHP.
GR Corolla and Type R may be more performance oriented cars to start with, but they command a completely untenable price tag. GR "Core" has an MSRP not that much higher than the WRX, but asking prices on these at dealerships average something like $50,000, similar to the last gen Type-R. The CURRENT Type-R has a BASE MSRP of$43,295. With dealer markups, I've seen asking prices totally eclipse even $60,000. For a CIVIC. It doesn't matter that it's "The fast civic". It's a CIVIC. These are BMW numbers for a car that was always meant for the everyman.
And for those of you who immediately scream, "YOUR SUBARU IS A TICKING TIME BOMB," no, it's not. Subarus that are maintained well and modified PROPERLY with supporting mods right from the start tend to last a very, very long time. There are many 2002-2005 WRX and STIs that are still running on the road just fine. If you expect reasonable power out of them (280-350WHP), drive them well, and don't do stupid stuff with them, they are completely reliable cars.
I've been owning, modifying, and tuning WRXs for many years. They are excellent when taken care of. I've yet to have a catastrophic failure out of one because I'm realistic about the limits of the car. These are not meant to put down 700WHP; they just aren't. If you want to do so, you basically have to forge and reinforce EVERYTHING to make them robust enough.
WRXs are great for daily-driving performance, like I said, keeping it between 280-350WHP (maybe 400 if you push it, but at that point drive carefully). In any case, they are just way cheaper and will get to the same performance level as these other cars for very little money.
The wrx vs GR drag, the wrx won the 2nd race. 1st drag race was a tie. The wrx tune on this newer 2.4 engine is already making this car a beast for enthusiasts. And if you're looking to haul people, the rex is way more comfortable than the GR.
And some people are still going to disagree with you 🤦🏾♂️😂 I own a VB and I love it, I’m just wasting my money on making it look a little better and the I’ll start with some power mods but nothing crazy, I’m thinking about 320-340ish hp.
@@JoseRodriguez-um8jm if you’re in a state with 93 fuel, 320-340 is completely possible with only an intake, catback and a tune.
These cars are pretty bonkers compared to previous gens. My 2019 took like $5K of mods to get to these numbers and required flex fuel…
@@JoseRodriguez-um8jm these cars will handle that 350lb/ft with stock internals no problem as long as you refrain from launching too much.
I’d say an intake, catback, tune, and maybe an intercooler is all you need for that kind of power. If you want to be extra bulletproof, you can splurge a bit and get an oil cooler and an AOS or a catch can
@@BahhJustaLamb i live in Cali 😵💫
At 10:00 into the video, it was at this moment that Sam became the people’s champ 😂 as a 2023 WRX owner even though the WRX lost the final dig race it was the right call to make Sam 👏🏽
Very unfair.....the Subaru is a regular wrx....against a gr corolla and type r civic.....and the wrx still performed well
How you squeeze 300hp from a 1.6L is beyond me, turbocharged or not. I'd be concerned about the durability of that Corolla motor. Nice races, Sam, keep it coming!
Yes, but be prepared for Toyota kool aide drinkers to say how they smoke and eat like crap and see how healthy they are later in life.
The Mercedes C43 AMG is now using a 2.0L turbo making 402hp/369tq. Crazy times!
I think the same thing, but then Toyota has a reputation on the line as does Honda. I would give them the benefit of the doubt. Certainly not going to buy a turbo 3 from general motors.
compress enough air and inject alot of fuel in small space gives you alot of power
The USA is accustomed to engines only on the market the designs of engines you’ve never heard about coming out of Japan by Toyota and existing and many of their cars is based on years of engineering… it’ll be fine they make a lot of economy engines with turbos
2:20 Not all 3 are AWD. Type R is FWD.
On my 2022 WRX I have an intake, FMIC, jpipe, and cat back. It’s tuned making 363 hp/404tq on 93.
Good god, so the VB is basically a tuners dream?
The CTR makes more with just an OTS tune.
@@Marbind more expensive tho
WRX for me...love the looks of it and the potential of the 2.4L engine, and it sounds the best imo
Same!
the new one looks like shit.. what planet are you living on buddy?
Bingo!
Will still get smoked by civic type r😂
@@allantee23 who cares
Thanks for doing this. The Corolla GR's exhaust sounds like a lawn mower, lol. The Civic Type R is one handsome car.
Out of all these cars the wrx motor is the least stressed. Stock it will last way longer. Tune it and it will be faster the the other two and still be cheaper 😂
Hey Sam could you get a race with an accord 1.5 against a Camry or something cuz that’s what I have and it would be cool to see how it does
I got my 22 WRx for 29k no markup, compared to type r and GR for well over 40k the wrx is a steal
The WRX did pretty well considering it was at least 200 lb heavier and down on power by 30-50 HP while being actually attainable and cheap relatively speaking. While the FA24 seem to take mods very well, I'm worried about the limit of the stock transmission.
They should make a tS version that includes parts from leftover STI parts bin (like the TY85 STI 6MT transmission and Brembo brakes) and that would make it a much more sturdier modding platform to start with.
Bettter displacement, bigger engine and one more cylinder. At least give gr Corolla its flower. Subaru shoukd style up.
People always talk about tuning potential. I don’t care. I want a car I don’t have to tune or modify. I want to keep my warranty. I care more about stock comparisons than pipe dreams. Good video.
Toyota asked me for $53K for my base model GR reserve 6 months ago. I walked out the dealership. Still have yet to see one on the road.
I got my CE for $1K under MSRP. Hang in there, keep looking if you want one. Not all dealers are shady.
There are several CORE GRs today, it's the Circuit that's rare and the Morizo even worse, never laid eyes on one yet
@@NEMotoGuy So you got it for $36K?
@@1anre Agreed. Took my circuit edition awhile to arrive, but was able to pick mine up for under sticker. My dealer honored MSRP as well. I've had my GRC for almost two months now, and I have yet to see another one on the road.
@@dinok.3809 No, $42K. I got the circuit edition. Not including tax/title.
Remember turbo lovers , turbo has lag and gr suffers the race with such small engine, not bad to be that small but without the right pressure on the turbo the car is useless.
Someone to teach this guy how to shift and start a manual car, dassssss Sorry
My 2012 WRX would kill that Corolla and it's still stock only thing that's on it is headers straight pipe and intake
WRX held it's own in the dig, good job!
No it didn't 😂😂
@ayyo5971 For a car with more weight and less power, and coming in about 20k less than the others, damn right it did! Plus the WRX makes very low boost from factory. If you don't mind voiding your warranty, a couple grand in tunes will make the wrx faster than both the GRC and Type R
He said "The WRX has better launch control". Bro the WRX doesn't have launch control. 😂
Honestly I own a 22' WRX and it's not the FASTEST ever but it's fast enough. Handling though, this car is AMAZING. (Could use some Brembos though 😢)
The fact that the WRX beat the GR in the drag race though.. no way the HP was reported correctly.. this car has more than 274HP
Wrx has great tuning potential
Yup. 2.4 vs 2.0 and 1.6. WRX sadly is very detuned from the factory. But who buys a WRX to keep it stock anyways :p OTS 93 octane tune gets it to 13.1 second 1/4 mile. And that's with totally stock hardware.
@fougetube wrx is a pig now! A45s and rs3 leave it for dead!
@davothegreat9990 wrx is truly last awd sport car on manual ,which gives much more fun ,especially on gravel or snow. It is analog , it is reliable . Rs3 and a45 is like laboratory rats . It is very fast and very digital boring cars
@@yulianmarkevych2709 no corolla gr more fun. Buy that, wrx rubbish! Even Hyundai N better, even though fwd. Wrx= rubbish
@@yulianmarkevych2709- You forgot about the Golf R 😊
A drag race can't determine much at all. Many more factors come in when determining what car to buy. We have 0-60 times for these cars so these tests are always ridiculous to me and one has to have the intelligence of a squirrel to watch a drag race.
That GR Circuit Edition's exhaust was sounding muffled as if it was chocked up.
The WRX had the overall best sound stock exhaust.
Thanks for putting this Compact Sporty sedan class drag together.
This was the content we knew we wanted but didn't know who would put it together for us.
Seeing this failed test, I would buy the WRX, the guy barely accelerated to keep up with the other lol.
Man imagine how well that WRX will do with a tune, cause it is significantly heavier than all the other cars by over 200lbs and it's only getting 12lbs of boost lol the Corolla and Type R is getting around 20lbs of boost.
actually....A vb wrx with just a 700 dollar cobb access port may give it the edge over those cars. The fa24s are legit. Add an intake and its done.
Yeah it’ll end up blowing the motor at 20k miles lol
I would've liked to see how the STi performed against the Corolla. They shouldve used an STi instead. That's like using an civic Si to compete in this race lol
@@jackjayduenas2194 Exactly agreed!
@@DezNutzBich Same.
Wrx needs a new driver…. And he still won even though he doesn’t shift the car properly
For the extra you pay for a civic or gr corolla you could buy a wrx put a intake , clutch upgrade, turbo back exhaust and a tune to make up the price difference and smoke both of them with ease.
Civic TYPE R can be tuned to 430 HP w/ stock only map tuning...
Unfortunately that still wouldn't be the case, because Type R and GR Corolla are built on their own dedicated chassis/platform with LSDs, so they would be way ahead still on track. My 23 WRX with $5k in coilovers, bushings, sways, wheels, and 200tw tires, was way behind my husband's mostly stock STI at Willow Springs event. Subaru engineer at the event explained it's because the STI has it's own dedicated chassis with front LSD, center DCCD diff, and rear LSD. New WRX he explained is built on SUV global platform, so new WRX uses Forester and Crosstrek's chassis and drivetrain of SUV open front and open rear diff, no LSD, instead using SUV's electronic brake vectoring.
bro, who is that WRX driver? You can tell he is short shifting and not staying in power band. You can't hear the turbo in the cabin and he is traveling wayyy to smooth in between shifts. Look at the GR and how it's almost red lining and in between shifts you can see it pull back some. The WRX had none of that going on.
with some mods to equal the hp of the other two. The Subaru is still cheaper and would probably equal the Corolla or the Civic. But from a dig, no question who's taking it at that point.
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته/دعني انا اقود سيارة wRX وبنشوف من اللي بيسبق سوبارو يريد لهإ سائق محترف عند تغيير الغيارات
The wrx I’d want in solid black. It’s kinda like the lower end models of the new tundra because of the black front. Black or grey look the best in my very humble opinion.
Youre launching the corolla wrong. That corolla can rocket off the line
You need a better driver for the WRX. You can see how slow he makes the gear changes.
I agree
bro, the subaru driver…
seems to me that on the drag races he wants to let the corolla win
I love all these cars. Though after much consideration I ended up getting the WRX Limited with a bunch of OEM+ mods and still was way under the asking price of the Carolla & Civic. If I want extra power. I can easily get it from many performance shops that specialize in WRX. The aftermarket community for Subaru is by far the best.
Lol better than a Honda? Noooo
2:25 civic ain’t awd
@@Boom-tj6nn but AWD means nothing when it can't put the power done and understeers. We have a 23 WRX, engine power is great no doubt, but the handling is aweful, we put coilovers and 200TW tires, we reached out to Subaru and inquired why and they let us know the new WRX is only offered with opened diff and brake vectoring, like our minivan! They said the new WRX no longer has option for front LSD, rear LSD, or center diff, that they offered in previous gens.
@@panderalexander Sti’s came exclusively with lsd and some previous gen wrx’s except the va chassis. Also I said that the civic wasn’t all wheel since the dude in the vid said it was
@@Boom-tj6nn you're right, my husband corrected me too he confirmed what you said, STI came with all the LSD and center DCCD only, not WRX.
WRX driver: after getting to 4th or 5th gear, you should have downshifted. You would have blown the GR to dust. I own the WRX. 3rd and 4th are high high gears to haul ass
very impressive all 3!
but for me, always rooting for the hondas ;)
Did he say all three are AWD the type r is only fwd
Love your videos! may I add a car to the line up its a cadillac CT4 V has a 2.7L turbo non blackwing has 325h and a 2.0L turbo that has 235h that that may run with them
I’m impressed no one said nothing about the non driving driver of the gr in dig races.
That guy just said if civic was all wheel drive it would be awesome😂. What else do you want? Automatic? Thats what makes civic a civic.
😂
The WRX and Type R drivers need to learn how to shift a manual.
Not all 3 are AWD.
A tip on launching the gr corolla, sport mode on, turn off traction control, turn on track mode, launch at 4.5k rpm and you’ll be flying. I got 0-60 in 4.4 seconds
Funny enough I managed the same 0-60 when I was testing mine. Your 100% right it flies
Good job Legion.. love your conparisons and videos. Keep up the good work ❤
Glad you like them!
I stopped watching at the last dig between the GR vs WRX. He short shifts to second very early, allowing the Corolla to minimize the gap.
Also at 8:29 look at how slow the gear shift happens, it's almost purpose. Who coasts gears like this at a drag?
Wrx is the most heaviest and less powerful among that cars ,and also is the fastest on quarter mile , great performance 👏
What a difference All Wheel Drive can do even with 15 less horsepower
I'm a Toyota guy but I must say the civic looks sexiest and the WRX is the best bang for the buck.
That little Toyota GR is a lovely, great little package and for a 3 cylinder car it's definitely live up to more than it suppose to do , it's just the price is the problem but OVERALL I love it for the looks and performance this could be a everyday drive car in my book for real I give that little car 2👍👍 for Toyota innovation and technology.
It's a slow overpriced piece of crap my stock Audi S4 is faster than that is lol
It's a neat car. Just not $72000 neat
@@lexman8678 it's always funny when an Audi owner calls almost any other car on the planet a piece of crap. Not credible, but funny!
@@VEEZER1 $72000??? got mine for 34 🤣
This kind of race.People like always only this kind of race.
It's a fair race Race.
As a GR Corolla owner, I noticed that you were maybe trying to preserve the clutch as you were easing on it rather than dropping it. These cars like tough love to get some really good results. I'll give it to you: It is not easy feat winning to a Type R, and you did it twice! However you could drop a second by driving more aggressive. Great races.
Another journalist burned the clutch by doing just that.
The clutch in the GRC grabs a lot quicker than you'd realize. You definitely have to let it out faster than usual in a dig race.
This is not a fair comparison. The WRX is a rally car, it can be drove in mud, earth and ice. Is not a drag race car. In an outdoor circuit is the best by far!
Sam might be the first person in the history of the world to say that a GR Corolla is a hard car to launch from the dig lol. It’s AWD, build your revs, dump the clutch, hang on for dead life. It really is just that simple.
Results were as expected though. The lighter and more powerful CTR is faster in the roll races, the GR Corolla should have been faster in the dig races but wasn’t launched nearly as hard it could have been. But I get it, these are people’s personal cars and we don’t want to break anything 😬 And the WRX is the slowest of the bunch but far more affordable and can be an absolute weapon with some mods. It’s a win win win for all three of these cars honestly.
Someone did exactly that and destroyed the clutch 😂😂😂
It's to heavy to launch it at say 6000 RPM.
I have done that in my GR Yaris few times and the smell is real bad.
I just don't want to fry the clutch. So no more.
PS Fastest GR Yaris 1\4 Stock I have seen is a 13.1
@@Dave-gl6jb burnt onions! We tried once and I told myself, I am not walking home 😂😂😂
Now that's funny.
PS There was a guy somewhere on TH-cam who tried as many times to break the clutch
He got to always 30 then replaced it with stronger one.
GR Corolla would break even faster lol
So people upgrade your clutch if you want to launch it hard or want more HP.
Clutch will not take more than 350HP from GR Yaris testing.
@@SamCarLegion Lol damn 🥲
From the way you drive, You are not an experienced driver for you to test those cars.
Insane cars !! ❤❤
You need a better driver in a WRX if I was driving it you would never had caught up
Impressive premier.
All three are all wheel drive, the only difference is the civic is front wheel drive? Write yourself a script.
Yeah, that WRX launch control is much better than the GR Corolla's, "Speed Actuation Mode." Or SAM system.
The only launch control on the WRX is my two feet…
Welp that corollas warranty is void. 😅
Only one hatchback, one regular sedan and one lift back sedan. We need more hatches
A lift back is a type of hatch back
The Type R is the better overall car.
The Wrx is a better price car.
The Corolla GR is the better new car.
I'm still waiting for my GR Supra!
Integra Type S vs FK8 vs FL5 and also bring in TLX Type S. See if the R can catch up in HALF MILE. All stock pls.
Every all wheel drive car I have ever driven you just pin the gas to the floor and dump the clutch and it works. It’s so simple SMH.
So the real winner dollar for dollar is the WRX VB
What’s the weight difference of that premium WRX with a sunroof compared to the gr corolla ?
Prediction gr Corolla - will win the drag race
Second - Honda civic
Third - WRX
All of them are still slow cars
Mmmmm
Lawnmowers
The type R isn’t slow 😂, I’ve seen them trap 107-108 mph in the quartermile stock! That’s a serious number from a 4 cylinder.
@@Youcallthesebagels_ Yes but the performance bar for fast among enthusiasts lies around the sub 4 sec mark nowadays. Some even feel sub 3 sec. Sub 3 is perhaps extreme, but these are sub 5 , so…
(the Civic Type R almost matches the Bugatti Veyron's Nurburgring lap time)
Iam_Victor: "slow AF"
Just bought a WRX. It’s at least 12,000.00 dollars less money and it’s the best value for the money. It’s a lot of fun. The others are just too much money! AWD too.
Sam is the king of drag races for the masses! Keep up the great content 👍
Yea 😂😂. I mean jokes a side. There is a big price difference between the WRX and the new corolla GR I think just under 47k sooo not really a fair comparison 😂
Quality. It's exactly what we wanted to see. They are cars regular folks could own if that's what they really wanted.
Hondas we’re never meant for a dig. Unless you can bomb that clutch and get a good start you are screwed
Should’ve done the Elantra or Kona N
You have awd you don’t need launch?
All in all, the Corolla is just cooler than both cars.
The wrx is not even on gr corrolla ang civic type r class it should be an sti if you want to compare to the two
So I’ll get the Wrx and tune it and it will beat them both easy
It's insane how much more hp you can make with this VB and still be within the safety range. I have had my tuned for about year. You can piss in the gas tank of the VB and make 50+ hp LOL
Tune the type r and bye bye gr and subaru and all other brands Honda is King of the streets for yearrrrrrs now
@@opadilla123 This can be said for any of the three vehicles tbh.
@@NEMotoGuyexcept for the GRC. You can’t get a tune and a intake and be at 400WHP.
@@superplushvideos7968 This is true. But you can easily make about 330-350whp with fairly minor modifications. And that, tbh, would be plenty for this platform imo. The stock turbo is pretty maxed out in the GRC, so that kinda puts some limits.
How quickly we forget how to drive cars. Seriously. The GR Corolla has a real ebrake. Use it! Load up the engine against it and release on launch. I can't stand all these folks doing drag races and they can't do the most basic things.
You can’t go wrong with either 🚘 🚙 🚗
Love ❤️ 🇯🇵👏🏻
I love subaru and the wrx doesn't have dealer-markups being on $30k, while civic and corrolla both have tag prices of $55k+
idk why people are so caught up wirth drag racing these. a camaro SS cost about the same as all of them and will go faster in a straight line and sound better. maybe the VB might keep up but i would still rather have the v8 noises
But it's a 2 door and also unreliable. No offense but this is the reality.
If you put all 3 of these in any non perfect road conditions the WRX would smoke them. That's the allure of the rex, you can drive that son of a gun in any weather or road condition.
Subaru just has one of the best launch controls but that GR, is. Doing what its suppose to . TOP END pulling due to 50More hp than the wrx .
Math must not be your strong suit its 29hp 🤦🏻♂️
@@Genny2Turbos 😂
Wrx doesn't have launch control
The only launch control on the WRX is my two feet.
What? WRX historically have horrible launch control or lack thereof. Most owners don't launch them because of fear of breaking half the car
The man run Honda civic he don’t know how to start
Im here just waiting
Good things come to those who wait