VW ID4 Pro 4Motion range test
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Stalks are new, Screen is new ( bigger and buttons are gone), Software is new (version4.1), Now it preaheats with the route planner and manually. As usual great work Bjorn. Thanks
And it charges faster.
You mean preaheats manually and with the route planner :)
Thanks. Don't get why he doesnt mention those things as much
Wow VW is back in the EV game. This is a good news for the EV market.
At what cost? I think most people prefer a Chinese car for less money, at least I do.
@@fritslevie4461 never ever ever ever will I buy a Chinese EV. Only buy European brands. I'll pay that bit more, I don't care. Important we protect our manufacturers, instead of state backed Chinese tack. I'm not the only one that will think or do this too
@@ClarionCaww I love Chinese cars especially BYD. European cars have always been too expensive and that has to stop. BYD has also better, safer and cleaner batteries.
@@fritslevie4461 BYD is state backed by the Chinese government to the tune of billions. They have an unfair advantage on other companies because of that. I don't trust the Chinese government and their influence over the battery and EV market. You are free to do what you want, unlike you would in China 😃
@@ClarionCaww I agree with you. Always buy European, they make the best cars and we need to support our industry.
The consumption numbers looks pretty good
The drive is so quiet and smooth. Its especially nice when you capture it with headphones on. I still like that ID4. Thanks Bjorn.
So we had the Toyota Highlander, then Tesla Model 3 Highland and now VW ID.4 Highline 😅
Maybe you should add a comment in the spreadsheet that this run was without A/C? Seems like it could be a 5-10 Wh/km difference on an early summer day in your test. Of course it depends on how VW uses A/C.
What confusion is there Bjorn? GTX doesn't describe that the vehicles are AWD, just that they are the performance trim. All ID cars come as standard with RWD. Some can be had with AWD, that's the 4MOTION moniker. The ID.4 is sold as GTX 4MOTION, which has 250kW power and is AWD.
Interesting though, it seems like the current AP550 RWD has the same power as the 4MOTION variant, which means that it uses the older rear motor (or it's "detuned") paired with a front motor. GTX uses the AP550 with the front motor.
I did a 230k trip in my Enyaq 85, 19inch wheels. Travelling mostly at between 90-110km/h, 22c external temperature, achieved 14.1kwh/100km as reported by the car. Same AP550 motor. Great car, pleasure to drive, and great charging curve even if peak is around 130kw.
There's also a new GTX. You are testing the base AWD version which is called 4Motion. I don't see anything confusing in that. GTX indicates the top performance model.
AP550 has less agressive reduction ratio (close to 1:8), so in theory it should roll better. It's definitely worth to try the new Enyaq Coupe RWD in that test.
Its a question you need to invest - in Germany - 2.700EUR for the 4Motion compared to the same horsepower RWD. The 4Motion can tow 200kg breaked weight more, 175kW not 135kW charging speed, but turning radius is bigger -> 11,6m to 10,3m
I guess it's easier to think of GTX like electric GTI, sportier model
Can you test Model LR RWD?
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VW speedometers are always exact. Exactly 3km above that is. :) With the new speed warnings they should remove the 3km over reporting.
km = distance
km/h = speed
@@bjornnyland My apologies for offending the overlord of units. Of course, I should have expressed it as 0.8333 m/s to ensure it adheres to the proper SI unit standard. 😜
Afaik in Europe Speedos are meant to over indicate speed at any speed. In the past the difference was higher, now it's only 3 kph at lower speeds (well ID. cars can't go faster) but at higher speeds wheels change the effective diameter and the 3 kph is a security margin to always over indicate speed as per law.
@@e-redj I know, but they should get rid of or at least reduce it now when all cars have to ding when you go over. VW ID cars a incredable exact at 3km/h over all the time, regardless of speed. Would also be nice if all cars had the same buffer or even better self calibrating speedometers since they all have GPS now.
Cat massage lol
It’s a little disappointing there wasn’t much of any difference with the GTX which has much larger wheels. I’d say it’s almost within rounding error the discrepancy in wh/km//wh/mi.
Getting better - good job VW!!
Now please one more change - add a frunk!
Its so annoying to have a charging cable in the trunk.
I think the car would show the active A/C error when has been parked for over 30 mins or so and then started again.
Could you show the charging curve? Ideal would be a graph from 5% to 100%, so we can see that plateau.
Not possible because of broken AC.
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When will be V2L at VW cars (id.4, Enyaq etc.)
I think in mid 2025 or end of 2024
@@ConstantinBanciu Thx, I will buy EV next spring , and V2L is important for me.
@@Quickyprdbuy hyundai/kia then, they already have this
@@IstvanDarabos I know, EV6 is now No.1 in selection, but I will prefer something from Europe. Nothing again Korean 😎 I have almost one year for select, so no hurry.
Efficiency appears to have increased at low speeds, but nothing appears to have changed at higher speeds.
I would have hoped for a little more, especially after all the marketing VW has done here - and it's also questionable what it looks like in winter, VW has always been weak here.
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I trust your Butt feeling. 😂
Good numbers but still not Alien tech level
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Only fans mode= Lower consumption
But at 14°C, no AC is needed.
What are vw doing, can someone in the company coordinate all the separate teams and align their roadmap please
Will you see if you can uncover what’s behind the issue with the AC? Perhaps a rodent or manufacturer defect. And possibly redo some tests if you have the time with the AC working?
Is it fast as Tesla tho?
No, slower as a LR and much slower than a Performance...
@@sworksm552 And who cares. it gets you as fast as a LR and faster than a Performance to the destination, as you're not allowed to use the "performance" of the "Why?"
This software is new in the way they fixed bugs from initial iD software and shafted the early owners.
Software functionally is almost the same, if you recall iD software 2.1 used to precondition the battery but on unlock rather than while navigating to DCFC, that bug is fixed.
You can preheat battery in 2.1 and 3.X is software except this is not user exposed because VW decided like Hyundai group to stop precondition when battery is ‘critical’ so VW has fixed the bug causing inter module communication between so the navigation and battery heater can communicate. Another bug fix.
Other than ventilated seat you are buying a car with bug fixes the same brand that abandons rest of their fleet.
VW replaced IR leds with visible light LED and added ventilated seats. That’s the real difference outside the rear motor. Also VAG got rid of most of the folks on this to get their version of Android Automotive(nonGAS Gen 1 Launch year Macan EV and Taycan facelift) , second year of production is abandoning first year model years to ones with google application services supported Android Automotive.
Completely wrong. First of all: it's not just a new software and a new screen, the whole infotainment system got upgraded. That's why old cars can't get the new software (they still get updates for the old software!).
Secondly, the old way of preconditioning wasn't a "bug". With the old chemistry, VW made the decision to always heat the battery, which of course is terrible for short distance consumption, but good for battery longevity.
That alone is already a lot for a simple facelift. On top of that, the new APP550 motor is one of the most efficient drive units in the industry. What more can you expect from a facelift?
@@lukasweishaupt2708 Oh the irony, if heating strategy was for battery longevity why did VW change the behavior from MY22? Want to prove me wrong simple cite a source. From what your reply your argument is really weak inferring VW is currently not caring about battery longevity. Also pre ‘APP550’ still heats battery on id software v3.x but after plugging into DCFC. The ‘new iD4 has the same chemistry as the old one. They’ve improved it by adding more battery suppliers, but the same LG and SK cells as you’d see no mention of specific cell chemistry changes on any of VW releases.
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Ioniq can easily do 10kwh/100km in summer so it is vw go home....
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