The Volkswagen ID.4 Gets Huge Updates For 2024! Software, Hardware, & Pricing Updates For America
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- Kyle took a quick trip to California to check out the 2024 Volkswagen ID.4 and go through some of the updates to the software and hardware. It's a quick one but covers all of the changes. Enjoy!
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Someone at VW needs to hear this. Give current ID.4 owners some of these updates. Namely, battery preconditioning. Even a manual button without route planning would be better than the slow charging we are experiencing. Beta testing with your customers on a $40k - $50k car is just a way to lose loyalty. Do the right thing VW.
Good points, but this is what happens when idiotic bureaucrats and politicians push car makers to rush something out. Tesla evolved naturally. 20 years gave them ample time to get shit right , except build quality. As for 2024 ID.4 , wasn't it supposed to get battery conditioning?
My salesman told me we would eventually get preconditioning with the OTA's. That will take time...
@@mmayo1320 Seeing as it took 2 years to get the first software update, and it's been nearly a year since that one, I'm not going to hold my breath.
Which years specifically will get it? Given it came from a sales person I'm skeptical @@mmayo1320
@@mmayo1320my salesman told me three years ago I was going to get OTA updates. Still waiting…
I love my ID.4 Pro S. Drives so smooth. Turns on a dime. Love the look!
It turns so tightly…it’s amazing!
How do you like the sliders?
I listen to my music via usb. Can you change, songs, albums etc while driving?
The 2021-2023 cars *CAN* do route planning, and it isn't that much different from what you show in the video. It was even there at the initial product release, but you really need to look at the route planning on software 3.1, as they corrected a number of issues along the way that made it far more usable. The one major thing that they did add to 2024 is preconditioning to route planning - that's something the older cars don't have.
I totally agree. I have found that my 23 doesn’t calculate elevation so I have found the route planning a bit optimistic. But that can be offset by changing the setting for remaining range when reaching a charge stop on route. This is not an issue if you have many charging options. Regardless, I only use the built in navigation and it has been fine so far.
I find it odd that the 21-23 cars don't have preconditioning enabled with the very latest update. They do have a battery coolant heater - so why not? Would love to know the specs on the heater, maybe it's slightly higher kW on the 2024 models.
@@fiehlsport VW isn't really saying why not. The heater does come on as soon as you plug into a DCFC, so the older cars are perfectly capable of warming the battery. The missing bit is to add a button to infotainment, and/or somehow tie it into the navigation.
The route planning on 21-23 ID.4s really isn’t bad either, I don’t know why Kyle always hammers on it, it’ll get you to a high power station with a low SoC and have you ride the curve and then go to the next station, it’s a lot better than say Hyundai and Kia’s, which makes you get to a station at like 50% and charge up to 100%, which is awful.
My 21 has 60,000 miles and that's mostly all from Montana back roads. No problems. Would buy again.
I love the id.4! It’s fast enough and it rides like a dream.
How do you like the sliders?
If you’re talking about the volume and climate buttons I’m fine with them but they did take some getting used to. I approach it with an open mind and I don’t long for physical buttons.
You did a video a year or two ago comparing the ID.4 with the Hyundai Ioniq 5. Now that both cars have been updated, I wish you'd do an updated comparison video.
I’d like to see that too
A couple of weeks ago I traded in my VW 2022 ID4 for a Kia EV9 with no regrets. ID4 was decent, but I felt like a forgotten child. During the time I owned it, about 12 months, no software update, no plug-in charge, no preconditioning… and there were a few times, I was driving and the screen and the dash screen would go blank… they just didn’t take care of their existing customers. The focus was all on new buyers. Happy to give it to Kia and drive away with an amazing EV9
I think a 2024 ev comparison would be great. Seems like most have had some kind of updates. I think a video on how to take care of LFP batteries, or even a comparison video of those batteries would be awesome as well. Seems like everyone on all the forums I am on dont know the proper way to take care of them.
Glad you are doing 20 minute vid's.
Yeah I’ve skipped a bunch of the road trip videos because 1-3 hours is just way too long . Most of those vehicles I’m only slightly curious about
Those are the best videos. @@angryox3102
Nice car! Great positive upbeat review, refreshing 👍🏼
Well done, Kyle, thank you. Definitely interested in seeing a eSUV comparison video.
Based mainly on your recommendations, we bought a RWD 2021 Pro S w/gradient. Really, really loved that car. Only reason we sold it recently was my penchant for the Tesla Model X Plaid. I'd definitely recommend the ID4 all day long. Thanks Kyle!!
I was able to reach 23.3k on my first year of my '23 ID.4 I am still loving my car and can't wait for more road trips
The beautiful Oasis Blue Bolt driving past was awesome!
I have one! The most common compliment I get for it is the color.
The bolt is a great car for its use case. A local runabout that the biggest thing you need to haul is groceries and you home chargers are level 2. Otherwise the I’d.4 is much more appointed, comfortable and good for short range (
I wish I was more educated about the ID4 before I got mine. I got the pro with the LG battery for only 1000 under msrp. Had I known what I know now I would have tried to get a better deal. Still love my car though. It does what I need.
It's all about personal experience and preferences. Lots of noise on those forums based on opinions, which basically means fuck all.
I'm curious how much revenue LG gets from making EV batteries.
Great update review. I’d love to see an EV SUV comparison test!
Great to see the ID4 improvements, specially the infotainment and the option to manually pre-condition the car!
6:49 Both LG and SK battery packs can charge at peak of 190kW. Yes my 21 with LG pack does hit 191kW into the battery 198kW drawn from DCFC.
7:23 Regarding the battery-limited power output of the 2024 (330 hp) is there a different F:R bias for the power delivery than the 100:195 hp that the 2021-2023 AWD had? Could an OBDII dongle be used to see if it dynamically adjusts more bias to the rear and dials back the front motor?
Love your video, Kyle - still love my ID.4 😊
Hey can you review & rang test long rang phev’s like the mb GLE 450e or the bmw x5e and other’s extra?
I do like my id4 but this is a nice upgrade. Is the app different, can you lock/unlock the doors from the app? May need to look at upgrading soon, thanks for the video
Great Video @Outofspecreviews, awesome changes. I could not confirm if they integrated a "HEAT PUMP" unit to improve efficiency, is that available on the updated models?
My ID4 has also a SK, German made 2023 model AWD ~84KW (can't remember the exact number right now). I'm not due to upgrade until summer 2026. Cool change on the charge plan. Will help expansion of the charger networks and allow vendors to cover their costs. No issues with the car at this point, works like a charm with predictability.
Looks promising.
We have an ID3 2021, and we love it, it hasn't missed a beat - great fun to drive and super comfortable. 4 miles plus per KW. so please we've got one. I've also got an Audi Etron 55. Unfortunately it's spent more time with the garage than on our drive
Great review as always. Do you know if available power drops off as steeply with SOC? That's the only gripe i have with my 2023 S AWD
You should only notice when it gets close to 10% SOC. The difference is the overhead between the battery voltage and the motor voltage. If the battery SOC goes from 440v to 320v but the motor voltage is 360v you are going to lose peak power at about 365v.
Bjorn Nyland covers this. It’s not a bug it’s a feature. When max power isn’t available, a warning will appear.
Do all these updates transfer over to the Q4 Etron?
Do you have informations on an update for the old models to had some of the new features (such as the estimated charging speed) ?
Supposedly older cars are "incompatible" with the version on the 2024 cars. I don't know if VW will ever backport some of those changes, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Kyle could use a link to the older review. Was curious about the miles per kw at 70mph
Is this website have a review for a Fisker extreme? Please let me know your opinion. Thanks
Did they make the ID "bar" work with third party navigation? Google maps, etc?
Test drove the 2023 AWD model today and looking to test drive the 2024 on Monday. They are just doing the PDI on the first ones here on the west coast (BC, Canada). Aiming to get one in days!
Love my 2021 and charge at home 98% of the time. Here in Canada it seems the 2024's will be about $10,000 - 12K more for similar package as my Pro AWD.
I see $13,000 in lease incentives for 2023 ID.4 AWD S Plus with the SK battery. That might be worth considering if you’re looking for a deal to upgrade from a Pro to AWD Pro S. My lease is up in October so I’m debating if it makes sense to get this deal or wait to lease a 24 model.
I really wish VW would roll out an ID.4 R that had about 500HP, 4-wheel disc brakes (yes, I know odd ask on a new car in 2024), the new larger battery pack from the ID.7, DCC, sport seats and a bit of visual flare from the GTX model.
It’s odd they’re one of the only automakers not offering a performance version of their mainstream EV crossover.
I wish VW would sell a comfort spec with smaller wheels, DCC, and the Euro comfort seats.
@@mart0225 I do wish they would offer DCC and not force 21” wheels on the new Pro S model. Big wheels are the single biggest range killer on EVs. I’ve swapped out the big OEM wheels on my last two EVs and gone from 20” to 18” on my Model 3P and 21” to 19” on my EV6 GT. Range jumps by 20-25% just simply downsizing wheels and going with certain tires that are still good for driving enjoyment but also efficiency-minded. The improvement in steering response, ride quality and cost savings on tires alone makes a huge difference too. I spent the same amount buying a set of 19” wheels and tires for my EV6 as a replacement set of tires alone in the OE 255/40R21 size would have cost. The tires are double the cost going up to 21”.
Just an amazing car, I love it!
I’m still really happy with my ‘21 ID4 Pro S AWD… it’s been a great solid car, my only problem is I’ve had is I’ve driven past my lease allotment 😹
I just did a road trip with my ID.4 to watch the eclipse and the car was rock solid. I am not a car guy but I love the look of this car and plan to keep it a long time.
The one thing thar bothers me is that android auto disconnects. It happened once but it was really annoying.
Electrifyd America was okay. It did not leave me stranded but you get the usual game of having to try a few chargers.
I think the car is good to own for 20 years. Although TH-camrs are not the primary audience of this car, I am glad they resolved their concerns.
Personally, I use Android auto all the time and the weather app on the car. So the infotainment is fast enough.
I have a 2021 ID.4 Pro S Gradient that has 134,430 miles and the car has been great with zero maintenance cost other then 5 sets of rear & 3 sets of front tires , no brake pad replacement or anything else spent on the car at all , love this car & have always been pleased with it !
You drove 45,000 per year avg!? Wow
Finally a software update for the ID.4, I heard it was needed lol. Great video as always!
Like that it has one of the highest ground clearance. 5.9” or 6”?
Is V2H capability available for 2024 model?
Kyle I am also in Pasadena. I hope you enjoyed your stay.
Will my 23 model be able to get the software updates?
As an early adaptor of electric cars...I will be leasing my next new EV. 1) I don't have to deal with the depreciation. 2). I don't have to worry about any battery degradation. 3). The cars improve so fast that it doesn't pay to hold on to an older EV when the newer cars are so much better. On the other hand, cars coming off lease are going for a song. If I need a cheap second or third car for driving around town...that might be an option.
Agreed; leasing is the best option for people who don’t drive a lot of miles
That is the perfect red color.
Would the 2021 ever get this software?
I doubt it but I hope the 2023 models will get the software updated too. Love my id 4 pro plus
Yes please definitely do a 2024 electric SUV round up, that’d be great
YES! Compare 2024, ID. 4, Model Y, Ioniq 5, Chevy Blazer EV
I'm shopping.
+ polestar 3-4
Does it have one-pedal driving?
You have to get back to Germany. They just presented the ID.3 GTX Performance with 326 bhp😁
doesnt make sense in my head since the new electric motor alone makes 286hp??
There is another one on the way @@senoow4215
I loved the comparison with the jag, kia, and everything. An update would be siiiiick.
To be honest, I’m happy with my VW ID.4 Pro S AWD… I just hope 🤞😬🤞that pre-2023 get the 4.0 infotainment update down the road.
Moving the black bar and home button on the left side (in my opinion, so much wasted space) of the screen to the bottom gives the screen a much bigger feel.
The precondition is nice for those in colder climates and now backlit thermostat and volume buttons. I actually like my shifter next to the screen on the steering wheel, it is unique. The driver side window controls don’t bother me as much, but not exactly a choice I would have gone with.
I got a great Garmin DriveSmart to use instead of the ID.4 nav. The VW nav system is rudimentary, routing can be goofy, has very limited storage of "favorites" and favs can't be organized into folders of commonality. To power Garmin, I found a USB-C to 12 v outlet. One oddity with VW nav, it won't to a round trip: point A to point B to point A. Also, why does VW nav keep showing me gas stations?
yes do a comparison between vw id4 and Tesla model y and mustang mach e
Wait, they FINALLY give you seat ventilation? But still no HUD?
Do phone contacts work? This feature still doesn't work in my id4
Once available, how long does one have to wait after placing an order?
... yes
In Australia it’s also “yes”
I heard ID.4 2024 no longer has free 3-year charging? It's got some fixed amount of kWh credit?
I love that there are so many great electric car choices now. When I got my Kona EV in early 21 it’s was practically my only option. Now when I start looking for its replacement later this year I have so many choices. I can finally shop for a car that fits me again instead of sacrificing everything just to get electric.
At the end of 2024, I'll buy my first EV, and I expect to get a Facelift ID.4 vs. Facelift Ioniq 5 vs. Facelift EV6 vs. Tesla Y Juniper vs. Polestar 4 video to help me decide which one to get.
Good selection of competitors. I read that the Tesla Y Juniper will not come out until 2025 though.
@@MorboDDestroyer I think it will. The competition is getting stronger and it will force the hand.
Drop Polestar anything. Thank me later
@@theairstig9164 3 and 4 are brand new on a new system and honestly feels like a restart for the brand. I think they are quite interesting, but also very expensive. It's not a big chance that I'll get one, but I`ll keep an eye.
@@NDAWELOLnah. Tesla is the only sensible choice unless you're getting those other EVs as a grocery getter
Like em up Suv comparison 👍
Great top notch quality review tytyty shout out to super Dave …. Tougher than a 2023 Ford
Glad to see VW ID.4 is getting some much needed updates. Now if we could only get them to stop sitting at chargers till 100% that would be great
The 2024 will not have the free charging from EA, so those days are numbered..
He addressed that in the video.
Watch the video.
So happy to see they ditched the split armrests in favor of a wide center armrest. When I saw the split armrests on the original ID4 I stopped paying attention to it - that was a deal-killer for me.
AGREED! and the piano black nonsense needs to STOP also, that is soooo dated!!
I have a 23 with the American style wide armrest. Personally, I'd have preferred the cool split armrests that the older models (and europe) gets. To each their own.
@karmendimas5274 They need to put simple shit back in cars. Mechanical door handles, regular buttons and knobs instead of sensitive and expensive sensors.
So no SW updates to the outgoing models?
Nice!. I have the 21 First edition... i don't mind the software. Even if they didn't update the in-car software why couldn't they just update the app for us 21-22 owners the route planning within the android/iphone app? That seems like it would be easy for them and solve a lot of problems. Also is the hardware for battery preconditioning and plug and charge in our 21-22 ID4's? I would love those features... but if the software and those 2 features and the car being a bit faster is the only differences I'm gonna have to problem passing on them until I get my Rivian R2 if the company survives and it gets delivered.
cant the new software be implemented onto the 2023 models as well?
Love my 2021 👍
Just bought Martian wheels so combined with the H&R springs it looks even better now :)
It would be good to review cost of insurance as well
According to “ car and drivers” : Prices are up by between $1010 and $1860 compared with last year's ID.4, with the ID.4 Pro now starting at $46,300, the Pro S costing $51,420, and the top ID.4 Pro S Plus starting at $54,600.
All that's before all the dealers' bogus fees and unwanted addons.
Bidirectional charging?
Available, at least in Europe
It seems the European ID4s with 4.0 software have a store where you can get a native Spotify app. Why didn't they bring that to the U.S.?
Best thing about the 2024 ID4 is it is the first electric VW that will be sold in Australia, and seems it will be priced reasonable compared to the Model Y. (There is significant EV demand in Australia but supply has been terrible)
I just looked at the VW Australia website. Rumor is that the model is supposed to be delivered in July 2024 but they can’t be ordered and there is no way of knowing the specification. My guess is they won’t be available in 2024 but I was wrong about the delivery dates of the first RHD Tesla
Model 3 too. Drive reported the base model could be as much as $80k before on road costs. There goes your Tesla beater
@@theairstig9164 I don’t have a lot of faith in VW Australia. Historically gouging in service has been a real issue (I speak as someone who was told my car needed thousands of work, to having only a basic service by the local ex factory mechanic. The work they were trying to do was done 7 years later…). So I suspect this golden goose is more of an EV albatross than for even the other ICE makers.
Does it still have a cheap car horn?
I recently leased a leftover 2023 ID4 w/ the SK battery due to gettting an amazing lease deal. From what i've seen so far even a base 2024 ID4 would be way more expensive to lease than the deal I got a loaded plus model. Yeah, I'd love the new infotainment system but it just wasn't worth paying several hundred more a month for that!
Do you mind sharing what you paid? Down payment if any? Monthly payments? Final msrp…thanks
It will be very helpful if you share your lease details. Many of us are in the market to go for a 23 model, if the price is right.
I think the ID.4 looks good
Nice improvements. Makes it worth considering at least. If it had more button controls in the interior, a lower price and dashcam it would be at the top of my list. As it is, I will see how the updated (2025 US spec) Ioniq 5 compares.
Electric SUV comparison for 2024 is a great idea for an OOS video.
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I don’t get why everyone is so obsessed about software updates, I mean is it going to make the car fly to the moon or something? I have a ‘23 model, I don’t really care what else it can or cannot do as long as it works. I don’t see any changes from what a software update would do to benefit anyone, maybe the VW app could learn a thing or two but If you’re so worried about route planning maybe plan ahead to know where you’re going? It’s not that difficult to get from point A-Z lol..
VW should offer a software/hardware retro fit for prior years.
I think this my next car - I was a small SUV and the Model 3 is getting a little old.
I test drove the new model 3. I liked it.
Will earlier ID.4's be getting the software update?
From what I've heard, no, and I think this is the biggest failing of legacy automakers in general compared to Tesla/Rivian/Lucid. My 5 year old Model 3 is still getting the latest UI updates and fixes, once or twice a month. There's a big psychological buying dilemma for me when i see a design flaw in the UI of a car, in terms of thinking "well they'll get that sorted soon enough" versus "I'm going to be stuck with that, can I live with it?"
@@lowfuel6089 Yeah. I love my 2022 Model 3. I'm interested in the new Rivian R2 as Rivian is pretty good with software updates from what I hear but with legacy automakers I have the same issues/concerns as you. Thanks for the info.
@@joshmatlock1020 I reserved an R2, can't wait. :D
@@lowfuel6089 I did too. As soon as I saw I could.
Yep. Do the comparison. It would get plenty of views!
If one didn't want a Tesla, but wanted a 5-seater hatchback EV, would you say that this is the best option right now? (It seems like it is, but I'd like to know opinions from experienced EV owners.)
A lot of people don't appreciate Tesla vehicles. A colleague’s Model Y is experiencing significant wear; the moldings are detaching, there are creaking sounds, and the interior panels are not secure, among other issues. In contrast, my 2021 ID.4 remains solid. The ID.4 represents a reliable choice in its category. I’m eagerly anticipating the experience of driving the 2024 model.
You mean people don't appreciate legacy manufacturer EVs and praise Tesla too much? I agree that there is a misconception about what Tesla actually offers for the money. The Model Y has one of the worst specs for the money today and build quality of all Teslas are below average. A few years ago acceleration and a touchscreen might have been enough to persuade naive tech-enthusiast to buy an expensive EV, the big mass market is looking for better quality deals tho and they increasingly find them at legacy premium manufacturers
Yeah sure so the Model Y is the best selling and most popular vehicle in the world because its a complete piece of crap right? You're projecting your VW femboy Tesla jealousy really shows even more with these fake comments 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@bullshitbingo2259 Yep- I think the biggest (maybe only) real advantage that Teslas have now is access to the supercharging network. And, as we know, that is now opening up to other automakers as of this month (with Ford being first). To me, the "big 4" (Id4, model y, ioniq 5, Mach E) are all similar enough that it just comes down to which one you can get the best lease deal on at this point. If pricing were equal, i'd probably choose the Ioniq5 just cause i like the styling. ID4 woudl be my 2nd choice and Model Y is last due to build quality, inability to turn off one pedal driving and uncomfortable seats.
It's a VW. You'll start getting electrical issues soon. Just wait.
My friends Chinese made model Y is fantastic. Does that make your ‘friends’ experience not count? Wish I could afford one, hasn’t missed a beat and is very well built.
The free charging was a huge factor in picking ID4 vs Model Y... We live in apt and can only charge at EA, we only charged to 80%. Her car was parked & totalled 2 weeks ago. She is happily now able to get ModelY probably next week. We looked at other EVs and no one comes close to Tesla. Free charging gone makes ID4 a pass. It was nice but software was a running joke we had... The ID4 tells you when you want seat massage, what ambient color you get and the window switches, how does that not get fixed, worst idea! I Like Kia EV9 but anything dealing with EA is a pass. Maybe Mach-e with 0% interest, but charging takes too long, sales person scared her about fast charging. If only Fisker Ocean had good software etc...
Same here... Apartment living the 3 year free was the main reason over the model y and a deciding factor over the ionic. So the 2024 ionic and ev6 gets 2 year free but VW doesn't.. lame!
While you resent people who use the free charger benefit it was a major factor for those considering EVs; I wonder how that reduction will affect sales
Why did makayla get rid of hers so fast?
We want to know!
Wish it had NACS port
It likely will inside of 12 months
If they could just get the price right, it would be a great competitor to the Tesla Model Y. Definitely more attractive with the updates.
Is the 24 built in the U.S. and eligible for the $7500 tax credit?
I would love to see a video comparing EV SUVs. I currently have a Kia Sorento with close to 300,000 miles (original engine) and we want our next car to be an EV. I really want the size of a mid size SUV like a sorento.
If they programmed the route planning to emulate id4 owner behavior it would make you plug into 350kW stations when there are empty 150s and tell you to charge to 100% every time you stop.
Some nice updates but not enough to make it class leading. Hopefully next year will get a more efficient front motor, the J3400 plug and the larger 86kW battery from the ID.7 and a few thousand dollar lower price. That would make this a compelling buy.
Just waiting on the BUZZ.
Why are you not uploading in 4K lately so much?
same reason my main media PC and 65" TV are still all on 1080p. All my movies and TV shows are in 1080, and they still look great. 4k videos require big drives, take forever to upload, etc. Yea, if you are shooting a feature film, its going to be distributed in 4k, but uploading youtube videos? It's so much easier to to work in 1080p, and will be for a very long time.
Yes to the electric SUV lineup. That's what I'm looking at.