I was able to convince a friend of mine who has an iPhone to upgrade to IOS 18 almost immediately. As a result, both of us are enjoying a much better texting experience over RCS.
I can't stand group chats. Maybe the people who send them aren't using it properly but I quickly got tired my phone going off whenever someone responded to a message.🤦🏽♂️
@@micha3624 What's been frustrating for many years is having to explain to family members that Apple refused to participate in this solution and therefore I was refusing to reward them with business a la Tim Cook's "Oh tell her to get an iPhone" nonsense.
The restrictiveness of Apple is too extreme. How does anyone like this? All the issues with messaging seem to all be Apples's doing and they purposely made messaging worse for everyone, all for the sake of profits.
@@_WF23 I feel like you're both saying the same things. The only reason iMessage even got so popular is because for YEARS, Apple refused to support RCS; they had to be forced. If they had added RCS years ago, fewer Android users would've switched over just to get access to iMessage.
Green has just always seemed to be Android's mascot color, I've never minded being branded as the green phone user. but then again my smartphone days began after I was out of high school already so I guess I don't really understand that kind of negative stigma 🤷🏽
My fantasy football group chat is a mess because half of us have android and half have iphone. This is huge for us. Arguments have broke out because of messages being received out of order or not received at all. LOL
I am inches away from trading my iPhone 15 pro max in for a pixel 9 pro fold now that RCS is on iOS. Only problem is the price.. might still pull the trigger
I switched to a Pixel 9 Pro from iPhone 12, the day before the RCS update dropped for iOS. Thank God. I still have to SMS 2 people because they haven't updated their phones. And it is so bad, the 150-180 character limit is horrific for communication. I would 100% have returned my phone and got another iPhone if the RCS update didn't happen. That being said the Pixel 9 Pro is amazing, just wish they kept the classic Pixel design style. Pixel is caught up with Apple and Samsung in my opinion.
Recently I started using an iPhone to get some use out of my son's unused apple watch. My wife basically made me switch because I wanted a pixel watch and she said we already have a watch for me to use. With rcs on iPhone now at least I can text to my wife on her pixel and it's much nicer than just sms. Rest assured this is a temporary situation and I will be getting a pixel watch and a new pixel phone down the road lol😂
I guess this is very region dependent as over here in Europe, regardless of what device you’re using, WhatsApp is the way to go for most people to chat, so it’s by far not as much of a pain to focus on here than it is for many Americans who are primarily using iMessage or RCS when they’re on Android.
To clarify if you send a video over 100mb it automatically compresses and sends? What happens if you try to send a file that’s over 100mb, will it fail to send?
If you send video as media, from Android it defaults to SD quality and from IOS the video sends at 720p. The Android work around it to send the video as a file. It populates the chat as though it was sent as media. The 100 meg file limit is the constraint. About 10 seconds for 4k and 25-ish seconds for 1080p. While RCS between Android and IOS doesn't support E2EE, it does support encryption in transport (HTTP-TLS-SSL) which is more than the nothing that SMS/MMS supports.
I've heard the GSMA is working on introducing encryption on the RCS Universal Profile standard. I think Google pushed for it some time ago but had to do it on it's own (using the Signal protocol) and now that Apple has been forced to implement RCS, they've declined to use Google's non-standard E2EE and pushed for a standard-wide solution; so hopefully it'll get fixed soon
The Carrier part is the biggest hurdle for my social group. My wife owns an iphone yet her carrier doesnt support it. The carrier has been quite on the subject too whereby only mention of it is on the forums, people stating they work for the carrier say its in the works
A rare sight to see Apple make such a pro-consumer move. Though let's be honest, they probably only did this to try to stay off the radar of legislators and regulators. Though I'm still happy to have a higher quality texting experience with my Android friends.
@@vkAwesomee Telegram is not fully foss, and not fully encrypted so they have responsible in law when there is criminal activity. Simply signal doesnt collect so mutch information that no one would even know if there is criminal activity.
I think it's crazy to update your software and NOT activate RCS. So for the ppl who you text with Androids, do you understand that it's still NOT secure? So this means not only are you refusing to evolve but you refuse to enhance your text long experience with ppl outside of Apple...but will most likely still complain that they have Android 😔🤨😒
As an Android user who tried this out with an iPhone user, we have RCS enabled and we're not using SMS, but for some reason I keep seeing "Laughed at a movie" or "Laughed at an image" instead of reactions. Not sure why that is. And before you ask, I do have the toggle for "iPhone reactions as emojis" set to "on". Doesn't work.
This is because Apple supports universal profile 2.4 instead of 2.7 which is what Google is on. So they don't have all the functionality that we have still
@@Chertograad hopefully...but I wouldn't hold my breath. Apple is probably just trying to do the bare minimum to get around regulators. But maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised later
I really honestly can't believe this is a topic today.. It feels like the world that relies on apple have been living under the rock. I've been using RCS messaging with friends for what now.. About two years? It's just a no brainer... Infact I use it often now with close friends and family members over IM apps like WhatsApp, or signal.. It's just a no brainer.. A messages app comes with every phone out there, so it's a no brainer to see RCS a standard just as sms.. Well, better late than never.. Just surprised this is like a big news.. Lol
I dont use WhatsApp because i dont want to sign up for another thing. But also i personally have a capped data plan of 4GB. Much rather my messages (considering they are texts) be classed as texts where i get unlimited then using my data for not only the texts but also all the telemetry data whatsapp class as essential. So thats why im using rcs over whatsapp
Not everyone uses WhatsApp or wants to use WhatsApp. Just like not everyone has an Android or wants to use an Android. Some people like using the default messaging app on their devices. RCS just gives everyone more options :)
RCS requires WiFi or mobile data, on Android at least there is an option to still send the message via SMS if the recipient doesn't have this available. I had complaints that messages weren't getting thro' because of this - this option is switched off by default 😂. RCS is good but not perfect.
yeah that is a huge downside. there are lots of places where people don't have access to wifi, so you might send a text that never gets received, and in my country sending SMS texts is expensive
Is something wrong with read receipts between iPhone and Android? I don't seem to have them. I assume both parties have to have it turned on? Also the extra compression being done by Google to media sent through Google Messages is egregious. Fix it.
Apples rcs doesnt work on my companys wifi...so most people worh iphones are just turning it off altogether saying it sucks I assumed Apple would make the experience as bad as possible
I can't figure out why, but on my Pixel 9 Pro XL I'm unable to reply directly to messages within a conversation thread. But, on my Pixel Tablet which connects to the same conversations, I can. It's really weird & frustrating. I'm on Fi with RCS enabled, both are on Android 14. I really can't figure it out, but oh well. Anyone else?
This feature currently isn't working on certain carriers. It is. It was in the beginning and then it stopped. So I think something between the time that the feature was fully integrated with iPhone and starting to work between the two Android and iPhone. Something fell off on the Android side because a lot of people I spoke with they were able to use it and now it doesn't even work between Android users let alone iPhone and Android users. Hopefully they will come up with a fix soon because on my phone it says I'm connected via RCs but any text that I send sends as a SMS
I think some android users didn't aware that RCS messages default on Google messages, like you using pixel phone you just need to check on setting same like nothing phone. Brand like Samsung phone and the others they have separated messages app which need to download Google message and activate theRCS messages on the setting and make as default messages app.
They need to allow scheduled messages to be sent to android and not just iPhone users. My sister has an android and I have an iPhone. She can send scheduled messages to me but I cant send them to her. I need apple to get that together........ seriously
You using Samsung's messaging app or google messages? On my mom's S20 ultra, we found out the Samsung Messages app does not support RCS...once we switched her to google messages, RCS lit up perfectly!
I created my own "green" bubble on my pixel 8 by changing all my fellow android users to a different color. Now i just laugh at anyone who texts me and isnt the nice blue color I chose!
Embarrassing that Apple didn't implement its own RCS like Google did... This way, only a few users will actually be able to use it and be carrier dependent. This is basically dead in the water. It's time that most people just use Whatsapp
9:36 Some people are just douchebags. There's literally no reason NOT to use RCS if it's available to you, because your messages between Android and iOS are already not encrypted. But even though they're not encrypted yet, the overall experience will be better with RCS. They're just intentionally making the experience worse to stroke their elitist complex.
One of the reasons Apple sucks, they were forced into this just like usb-c. Trying to keep Android users out of their exclusive club is just weird. There's good and bad in both
My wife's family are all iphone users and my family is android users. Both families are bad at replying so having the "read' checkbox is so useful. But also as you mentioned, image support. The rest i wont be using
I was able to convince a friend of mine who has an iPhone to upgrade to IOS 18 almost immediately. As a result, both of us are enjoying a much better texting experience over RCS.
Friends don't let friends chat MMS
signal, what's app, telegram. Any of these are better than rcs.
So you made sure they can never jailbreak the phone ever such a good friend
@@passivevii4052the average person doesn’t care about jail breaking a iPhone, only super super technical folks do
@@passivevii4052all right dude…. Most people never jailbreak anyways.
Petty iPhone users will always persist. But hey, this way, you'll easily know the idiots you need to avoid like the plague.
Good news to have the added texting options. But if I ran into someone who cared about the bubble colour, I wouldn't bother with them.
But they're EVERYWHERE. This at least makes them seem even more ridiculous since media and group chats work properly now.
Dude they are brainwashed lol , what the heck
Call me crazy, but how can anyone not love that display on the P9P? Just seeing them side by side it looks so good.
It's sick, right?
I agree
I've been hounding all of my relatives who like to make group chats to install iOS 18 asap. RCS is so much nicer than MMS.
I can't stand group chats. Maybe the people who send them aren't using it properly but I quickly got tired my phone going off whenever someone responded to a message.🤦🏽♂️
better than nothing. Long overdue. But still 10 years behind all instant chat apps
@@micha3624 What's been frustrating for many years is having to explain to family members that Apple refused to participate in this solution and therefore I was refusing to reward them with business a la Tim Cook's "Oh tell her to get an iPhone" nonsense.
@@donotneed2250 that's your preference 🤷🏻♂️
@@dpt17so telling them to do it so they can never jailbreak the phone interesting
The restrictiveness of Apple is too extreme. How does anyone like this? All the issues with messaging seem to all be Apples's doing and they purposely made messaging worse for everyone, all for the sake of profits.
Literally
keep in mind RCS is kinda new. if google adopted and pushed carriers to support it earlier, this wouldn't be such a big problem nowadays
Wrong- it’s the main reason why most people prefer iPhone - iMessage
@@_WF23 most people *in the us*, sure
@@_WF23 I feel like you're both saying the same things. The only reason iMessage even got so popular is because for YEARS, Apple refused to support RCS; they had to be forced. If they had added RCS years ago, fewer Android users would've switched over just to get access to iMessage.
Green has just always seemed to be Android's mascot color, I've never minded being branded as the green phone user. but then again my smartphone days began after I was out of high school already so I guess I don't really understand that kind of negative stigma 🤷🏽
My fantasy football group chat is a mess because half of us have android and half have iphone. This is huge for us. Arguments have broke out because of messages being received out of order or not received at all. LOL
I can't believe people with the audacity to turn off RCS on their iPhone! Or people who refuse to update because of it 😡
It's insane and funny as well 😂
I am inches away from trading my iPhone 15 pro max in for a pixel 9 pro fold now that RCS is on iOS. Only problem is the price.. might still pull the trigger
I switched to a Pixel 9 Pro from iPhone 12, the day before the RCS update dropped for iOS. Thank God. I still have to SMS 2 people because they haven't updated their phones. And it is so bad, the 150-180 character limit is horrific for communication. I would 100% have returned my phone and got another iPhone if the RCS update didn't happen. That being said the Pixel 9 Pro is amazing, just wish they kept the classic Pixel design style. Pixel is caught up with Apple and Samsung in my opinion.
pixel tensor 😂😂
Recently I started using an iPhone to get some use out of my son's unused apple watch. My wife basically made me switch because I wanted a pixel watch and she said we already have a watch for me to use. With rcs on iPhone now at least I can text to my wife on her pixel and it's much nicer than just sms. Rest assured this is a temporary situation and I will be getting a pixel watch and a new pixel phone down the road lol😂
I'm rocking the Pixel 9 Pro XL and Pixel Watch 3 45mm 🔥🔥 combo
I guess this is very region dependent as over here in Europe, regardless of what device you’re using, WhatsApp is the way to go for most people to chat, so it’s by far not as much of a pain to focus on here than it is for many Americans who are primarily using iMessage or RCS when they’re on Android.
To clarify if you send a video over 100mb it automatically compresses and sends? What happens if you try to send a file that’s over 100mb, will it fail to send?
Google Messages prevents you from sending the video unless you trim it
Sucks that they got rid of the automatic link to Google photos @@atehrani
Depends on your carrier. I have mint mobile and there is no RCS messaging on my iPhone
If you find green bubbles "embarrassing" your probably in highschool
If you send video as media, from Android it defaults to SD quality and from IOS the video sends at 720p. The Android work around it to send the video as a file. It populates the chat as though it was sent as media. The 100 meg file limit is the constraint. About 10 seconds for 4k and 25-ish seconds for 1080p.
While RCS between Android and IOS doesn't support E2EE, it does support encryption in transport (HTTP-TLS-SSL) which is more than the nothing that SMS/MMS supports.
I've heard the GSMA is working on introducing encryption on the RCS Universal Profile standard. I think Google pushed for it some time ago but had to do it on it's own (using the Signal protocol) and now that Apple has been forced to implement RCS, they've declined to use Google's non-standard E2EE and pushed for a standard-wide solution; so hopefully it'll get fixed soon
Such a welcomed update that is finally here. This has greatly improved my experience both between Androids and between iPhone and Androud.
Awesome video sending it to my contacts now cause the apple fan don't know anything about RCS ....
I told the group chat to turn it on and it's way better lol
The Carrier part is the biggest hurdle for my social group. My wife owns an iphone yet her carrier doesnt support it. The carrier has been quite on the subject too whereby only mention of it is on the forums, people stating they work for the carrier say its in the works
A rare sight to see Apple make such a pro-consumer move. Though let's be honest, they probably only did this to try to stay off the radar of legislators and regulators. Though I'm still happy to have a higher quality texting experience with my Android friends.
So why we have whatsapp anymore? For privacy we have signal. Telegram is trash based on the last days news.
RCS is carrier dependent. RCS is still closer to bland SMS than real internet chats. Multi device support. Backups. probably more
telegram is the best.
just tell me why they are not chasing signal like telegram.
simple answer they are already cooperative
@@vkAwesomee Telegram is not fully foss, and not fully encrypted so they have responsible in law when there is criminal activity. Simply signal doesnt collect so mutch information that no one would even know if there is criminal activity.
@@vkAwesomee Signal has nothing info to give.
Replies seem to not be ready yet either. I have also convinced some family and friends to update and it's been so nice 😭 DOWN WITH SMS
Is there any other country besides the US that cares about this?
Probably not...but...maybe 2FA messages will get better with RCS...😂
I think it's crazy to update your software and NOT activate RCS. So for the ppl who you text with Androids, do you understand that it's still NOT secure? So this means not only are you refusing to evolve but you refuse to enhance your text long experience with ppl outside of Apple...but will most likely still complain that they have Android 😔🤨😒
Damn that bezel of iphone is just awesome 🥰
As an Android user who tried this out with an iPhone user, we have RCS enabled and we're not using SMS, but for some reason I keep seeing "Laughed at a movie" or "Laughed at an image" instead of reactions. Not sure why that is. And before you ask, I do have the toggle for "iPhone reactions as emojis" set to "on". Doesn't work.
This is because Apple supports universal profile 2.4 instead of 2.7 which is what Google is on. So they don't have all the functionality that we have still
@@lightwashlevis Ahh so that might be coming in the future? Sweet!
@@Chertograad hopefully...but I wouldn't hold my breath. Apple is probably just trying to do the bare minimum to get around regulators. But maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised later
I really honestly can't believe this is a topic today.. It feels like the world that relies on apple have been living under the rock.
I've been using RCS messaging with friends for what now.. About two years?
It's just a no brainer... Infact I use it often now with close friends and family members over IM apps like WhatsApp, or signal..
It's just a no brainer.. A messages app comes with every phone out there, so it's a no brainer to see RCS a standard just as sms..
Well, better late than never.. Just surprised this is like a big news.. Lol
Question -
Why would you use RCS messaging for text. pictures or Video when you can use WhatsApp?
What app is free to send everything.
I dont use WhatsApp because i dont want to sign up for another thing.
But also i personally have a capped data plan of 4GB. Much rather my messages (considering they are texts) be classed as texts where i get unlimited then using my data for not only the texts but also all the telemetry data whatsapp class as essential.
So thats why im using rcs over whatsapp
Not everyone uses WhatsApp or wants to use WhatsApp. Just like not everyone has an Android or wants to use an Android.
Some people like using the default messaging app on their devices. RCS just gives everyone more options :)
If you both only have wifi - 1 iPhone, 1 Android, will text messages still go through, via RCS?
In my experience (my carrier doesnt support it .... But wifi shouldnt require the carrier) .... No, it still gets sent as sms
EE in the UK gives you a "text has been delivered"
Thank you bro
Google just needs to change the checks to read or delivered.
That's all.
Those two checks looks like a mess or not so clean
Yes! I agree
It's crazy I'm on Google Fi which is a Google product and they don't support RCS for iPhones. 🤷🤦🤔
Globally or just in US?
"They can always get an Android phone"? 😂
RCS requires WiFi or mobile data, on Android at least there is an option to still send the message via SMS if the recipient doesn't have this available.
I had complaints that messages weren't getting thro' because of this - this option is switched off by default 😂.
RCS is good but not perfect.
yeah that is a huge downside. there are lots of places where people don't have access to wifi, so you might send a text that never gets received, and in my country sending SMS texts is expensive
Is something wrong with read receipts between iPhone and Android? I don't seem to have them. I assume both parties have to have it turned on?
Also the extra compression being done by Google to media sent through Google Messages is egregious. Fix it.
Apples rcs doesnt work on my companys wifi...so most people worh iphones are just turning it off altogether saying it sucks
I assumed Apple would make the experience as bad as possible
I don’t think it matters with carriers. Reason being almost all carriers around the world switched to Jibe and not their own.
Can you believe it - O2 doesn't support RCS on iPhone just now ☹️
Good video, but android let's you turn off typing indicators
I can't figure out why, but on my Pixel 9 Pro XL I'm unable to reply directly to messages within a conversation thread.
But, on my Pixel Tablet which connects to the same conversations, I can.
It's really weird & frustrating.
I'm on Fi with RCS enabled, both are on Android 14.
I really can't figure it out, but oh well.
Anyone else?
Told iPhone users to upgrade and they are showing up as RCS individually speaking but not for the GC
IOS again....copied most of these texting stuff from Facebook Messenger back in the days. It's soo similar with everything being blue and all.
This feature currently isn't working on certain carriers. It is. It was in the beginning and then it stopped. So I think something between the time that the feature was fully integrated with iPhone and starting to work between the two Android and iPhone. Something fell off on the Android side because a lot of people I spoke with they were able to use it and now it doesn't even work between Android users let alone iPhone and Android users. Hopefully they will come up with a fix soon because on my phone it says I'm connected via RCs but any text that I send sends as a SMS
I think some android users didn't aware that RCS messages default on Google messages, like you using pixel phone you just need to check on setting same like nothing phone. Brand like Samsung phone and the others they have separated messages app which need to download Google message and activate theRCS messages on the setting and make as default messages app.
replying to individual messages isn't available in iOS RCS yet
Help! my rcs has been connecting my number for over 3 months now. What should I do? 😂😂
They need to allow scheduled messages to be sent to android and not just iPhone users. My sister has an android and I have an iPhone. She can send scheduled messages to me but I cant send them to her. I need apple to get that together........ seriously
That Pixel Keyboard? What theme is that? I don’t have that on my GBoard.
My read indicators do not work for those that I am talking to with iPhones. Does anyone else have that issue as well?
My s22 on RCS still wants me to trim videos down to nothing
i wonder if RCS will get support from game pigeon!
i have s24 ultra on verizon (unlocked) and RCS does not work. i have tried every tip and trick and it keeps saying setting up
Did you call Verizon support? I would start there, could be on their end.
Are you on a Verizon business or government account? Verizon has recently started blocking RCS on some of these accounts.
You using Samsung's messaging app or google messages? On my mom's S20 ultra, we found out the Samsung Messages app does not support RCS...once we switched her to google messages, RCS lit up perfectly!
I created my own "green" bubble on my pixel 8 by changing all my fellow android users to a different color. Now i just laugh at anyone who texts me and isnt the nice blue color I chose!
what about replies? I can't find any information on how this shows up on the iOS side of things.
That True Tone on that iPhone is very yellow lol.
Also interesting, my iPhone gets full emoji reactions not text reactions
They (iOS users) can always get an Android device...
how did you get your keyboard that theme?
Y’know whats crazy? Voice still *doesn’t support RCS despite being a GOOGLE service* yet they’re bugging Apple to use an insecure standard
Which gboard theme are you using?
Green bubble belong to iphone user not Android users only iphone users have to be dealing with the ugly shade of green
5:25 iphone users dont know what a zip file is
Child. You don’t know what life is.
right like zip files are somehow exclusive to phones
Embarrassing that Apple didn't implement its own RCS like Google did... This way, only a few users will actually be able to use it and be carrier dependent. This is basically dead in the water. It's time that most people just use Whatsapp
Yeeeeeeeah, my friends on iphone will prolly not upgrade
9:36 Some people are just douchebags. There's literally no reason NOT to use RCS if it's available to you, because your messages between Android and iOS are already not encrypted. But even though they're not encrypted yet, the overall experience will be better with RCS. They're just intentionally making the experience worse to stroke their elitist complex.
That TV background with lugia?
Gotta catch 'em all
Rcs is horrible on Android why can't be able to work with Samsung message
When's android 15 is rolling out?
1 Week to go🎉
For Samsung sometime next year lol
as a Samsung user I'm horrified by those default android emojis. Tf is that!?
I wish we could reply individual texts 😢, applleee 😅
Too bad I can't use RCS on a custom rooted phone 😢
Why do you need a rooted phone
Play integrity fix
@@estusflask982 it's fun
@@estusflask982 is fun
@@estusflask982 it's fun
Apple made a huge mistake enabling this support. Now iPhone users won't get to flex on Android users anymore😂
I turn it off at the first day I installed iOS 18.
Isn’t available on Vodafone UK which is shit.
Now if we can get Apple to allow RCS on Google Fi...
One of the reasons Apple sucks, they were forced into this just like usb-c. Trying to keep Android users out of their exclusive club is just weird. There's good and bad in both
Send 4K 😂
My date ghosted me because I use Samsung.
Michael
M.B. in future 😂
Just use Signal
Some just want the world to burn. Hilarious!
Still I can't feel that fluidity on Android yet as compared to ios. 😌
The default android emojis is so ugly. i hope Samsung and Google collaborate to use Samsung emoji as the default one ..way more better
Is this an american problem?
RCS is great, Google Messages is not!
Is this really that important to people? Maybe picture quality but all the other things I feel are just over kill
My wife's family are all iphone users and my family is android users. Both families are bad at replying so having the "read' checkbox is so useful.
But also as you mentioned, image support.
The rest i wont be using
I'm curious which File manager did you use to make a .zip file 🗃️
Most of them allow the compression to zip?
Whatsapp has entered the chat...
Sometimes I wonder the need for all these. WhatsApp is the king of IM. Who even uses iMessage these days? except them kids.
@@iamFidel Most people in USA use iMessage
@@iamFidel
This 70 year old uses iMessage 🤷🏼
@@MrKim-kv2vv 😂🙌
This 48 year old uses iMessage…
RCS 🤝 iMessage
Also interesting, my iPhone gets full emoji reactions not text reactions