3 ways to make Bio diesel from waste veg oil ! Making easy Bio diesel at home ! Making cheap fuel !
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- In this video i go over how we use free waste vegetable oil we collect from our customers to make bio fuels/ bio diesel to run our farm vehicles and we using waste veg oil to run a generator! making bio diesel at home is fairly straight forward and i hope this video helps you with your own diy fuel.
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I have to jump in here. "Biodiesel" is a specific fraction of vegetable based oils. Because veg oil is a triglyceride (3 glycerine molecules to every oil chain) it requires cracking or cleaving using methoxide. That's a compound made mixing potassium hydroxide and methanol. This sets up a m exothermic reaction to create the methoxide. This is then introduced into the veg oil where the reaction begins to cleave the glycerine from the oil molecule. At the end you will be left with glycerine and carbohydrate oil chains or biodiesel. This is the same stuff used in white diesel up to 10% nowadays. Usually shown as 'B10' on the forecourt pump. Just adding veg oil to another oil is not biodiesel. Its a blend of oils and the veg oil still contains the glycerine. Call me pedantic but it's important people understand the distinction.
Would it hurt anything though
@@thatsmysidehustle4261 It's all about viscosity. Blend your veg oil with atleast 50% deisel or kerosene during summer and mild months. Down to 30% in the colder months. Any conditions below approaching freezing and below and the fats will wax up so don't use a drop of veg oil in these temps. I've been running my Sprinter on 50/50 for years in the summer. No ill effects at all. Engine loves it.
You got it the wrong way around. A triglyceride is 3 fatty acid chains to 1 glycerol molecule.
@@kylebutler1101 Correct. I did get it wrong way round. Cheers.
Any idea to turn it into b100
For low speed engine ???
For high speed engine b100 may not be possible for low speed bulky engine for agriculture pump, b100 is possible??
I can't wait to try this on my f250 I'm have dreamed of running biodesiel for a decade!
Cheers glad to see things are still going well!!! Awesome Channel and remember watching you planning out the road 👍🏻👍🏻 Always pushing forward 💜
Will the veg oil/ pariffin run OK in the winter in the UK?
Thanks for the inspiration. I'm an old age pensioner, who partied his life away, and never saved. Fuel is second to food, cost wise each week, as I live in the bush, and it's a 40km (25 miles) to go to a supermarket. Have pump, ordering filter bags now. Again, thanks.
did you still party?
Your filter set up is mint👌🏻
Some good info here.
Many thanks for the share.
Thank you dear it was very helpful to me especially in lebanon deisel is expensive
Hi sir, im from the philippines, thank u for this enviro friendly info, ill try this one. More power to u sir
Excellent video, cheers! 👍🏴
Amazing. The sun was peeking its way thru the clouds. Good video. Nuff said
really useful info, not too click baitey and just perfectly presented. Bravo
New method of filtering was found. Just use gelatin powder and mix it up into warm vegetable oil and what happens is the oil will separate naturally while the impurities like a magnet, stick to the gelatin as it settles out. You do need to refrigerate for the process to speed up but if it's winter stuff it outside for a bit. Pour it out into a container and on the bottom should be gel. That's your waste material.
Saw that, tbh I thought it sounded more of a faff than using some filters
@@Rural_racer sounds like it but it's cheap enough to test out so why not 🤷🏻♂️
The oil-gelatin mixing ratio can be known?
Such a clever idea!!! Wow I will try. I live in a tropical climate year around: Panama. Thank you for the tip!!
Need this vid for our survival thank you
Time to fill up our Toyota Diesel SUV
WOW!!! Thanks for this tip!
Very good method after looking thes vedo I am full of enger thanks thanks thanks
I ran my old Ford transit on vegetable oil and diesel. Mix for years,,no problems other than having to change my oil filter more often, friends used to say it smelled like a chipper 😎
Excellent video. Many thanks 👌🏽
Thank you very much, I was thinking about the methanol alternative but I like the kerosene idea much better! No waste and it’s cheaper than methanol and no mess
I've seen a guy here using Metholated spirits and lye, and then silica gel.
It's easier but it's not Biodiesel. It's mixing flammable goop together that may burn in a diesel motor.
Very informative , Thank you .
Thanks for the heads up on filtering, wanting to make for a Chinese diesel heater to heat my home
Kerosene is diesel simply more refined in aviation it is known as JET-A.
Wrong. Diesel is a different fraction of crude oil. It contains less BTU's and less aromatics even though it smells stronger to our noses. Kerosene is not the same as diesel although it can be used in diesel engines with an added lubricant.
@@tinderboxcreations could I use kero on an 11 plate Audi a6
All 6.2 and 6.5 chevy diesel engines were made to run on kerosene for the military vehicles.
Kerosene is a lighter molecule than Diesel. Kerosene vaporizes easier than diesel has a little less BTU per unit. It was used in 1920 and thirties farm tractors. It was cheaper than gas. Warm the engine on gas them switch to the dissolete tank.. A metal box was heated by engine heat and vaporized the dissolete. . oops the first entry got away without being completed I just noticed that .
@@tomstulc9143 Exactly....amazing what can be accomplished with refinement. 😉
Very good Video full of the right information 👍
Thanks :-)
Great video and channel my man! Subscribed!!
Ledgend thanks 😊
This is brilliant. Thanks!
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No way, paraffin and veg oil. Amazing lol. Nice job
I wish kerosene was cheap here in the USA, it's close to $5/gallon here. Thanks for sharing, good video man. - take care
Love your presentation style. - there’s always a hint in your tone of voice that says “here’s the secret they don’t want you to know - easy”
I don't filter anything until the fuel is reacted and washed and dried and then I dispense through a 30 micron racor. Most of the rubbish will drop out with the glycerol and wash water.
If you save virgin glycerol and put it in the next load of veg oil and pump it round it will pre wash the oil by using the remaining methanol and caustic in the glycerol. It will also help to dry the oil to reduce materials needed to process it. The glycerol from that pre washed batch can then wash the batch after that.
Yes, I do this every batch. Funnily, different batches yield various glycerol types, and sometimes the 20 liters I mix in with the "raw" oil doesn't all come back out.About half or only 10 liters. Does it get re-absorbed into the oil I wonder?
@@stephenspreckley8219 the free methanol in the gliserol will to into the oil. I did a 300L batch and got 70L gliserol from its 2 reactions and put that in the next load of oil and only lost 5 L of it on draining. It's variable.
OK to reiterate the obvious the methanol scrubs the glycerol out?
@@henrinaths1 glycerol is not scrubbed out. It is part of a reaction that breaks down the oil molecule in to 2 parts and liberates the glycerol and replaces it with a bit of methanol to make a methyl ester. A new different molecule.
Started using 50/50 Gasoline and used veggetable oil - 7.3 idi sounds happy.
Awesome! Thank you!
Great video, I've recently started running 80/20% wvo and petrol in my truck. Runs very well, only draw back is fuel filter changes every 5000 kms.:) I keep a spare set just in case I have to change them on a trip.:)
Hi DetroitGarage. I heard from a guy in Germany recently, who runs a petrol/WVO mix for his Mercedes. He, and several other sources too, said not to go past 10% petrol, because it thins the veg oil too much, which in turn begins to cause micro-wear within the injector pump's moving parts. (It will cost you less as well). Don't forget to put in a small purge tank to run pure diesel through your engine daily. Very important to do this, for shut down, and start up. Not very complex either. I'm converting an old 20 liter veg oil drum.
Have a look at a youtube video by a guy named Craig, called "Driving on vegetable oil". Some really good tips there, and also a good basic schematic, if you ever do a full conversion.
@@artofnoly9754 Thanks, I'll definitely keep an eye on that.:)
@@artofnoly9754 great info thank you
@@noahclouse1830 No worries Noah. Hope you get some good results. Ultimately I'll be using a heat exchanger to thin out the WVO so it will flow thru the system without any issues. So, even cheaper again because there are no additives required, only one upfront cost and setup. Have a look at Scintex heat exchangers. Out of Australia.
When I had an old Citroen with the 1.9 TDI engine, I used to take old veggie oil gravity filter it overnight by putting a 25 litre barrel on step ladders and let it trickle through two diesel filters and then into another barrel , then into the car. The fuel filter sat on top of the thermostat housing so got almost instant heat from start up. I was running a Bosche fuel pump and injectors. The Lucas CAV pump was the better pump but not robust enough for the viscosity of veggie oil. In the winter months I would mix in diesel , if I did not put enough in the car would still run but roughly and would have to idle for a few mins until the thermostat/filter housing warmed up then it was fine. I normally added 25% diesel summer no problems . Great engine ran up 400k miles, body and back axle bearings gave out eventually although I believe the engine was transplanted into a Pug 306. A friend worked out it was costing me around 6 to 8 pence a litre... happy days.
A later HDi was too fragile and would involve a lot more work.
Got the same engine, but the soft turbo version, the 1.9SD. I am thinking about running a 50 50 mix of veg and diesel, and i have the lucas one. I heard on pure veg it will wear down fast, but do you think this mixture will work well?
@@WorivpuqloDMogh be very wary when it gets cold and the viscosity increases it can go quite thick and the lucas pump cannot handle that. I got my car at a bargain price because the main pump drive had sheared when the temperature fell down toward freezing. I swapped over to the Bosch pump and injectors which ran fine. If you live some where warm should be no problem but if the winter temps fall low mix with diesel or go full diesel, it a PIA to swap out pumps.. try putting a sample of veggie oil or bio diesel in your freezer and see what happens.Most places swap over to winter diesel in the colder months. best of luck. Wear can be an issue so I would go 50/50 and hopefully it will run fine, i believe the lucas pump has finer tolerances than the bosch pump.
@@mazdaman1286 perhaps i should swap a Bosch instead lol. But it is a hassle i read somewhere. And i dont dare to touch the timing belt
@@WorivpuqloDMogh yes ideally a pump matching injectors and pipework. I did cambelt and waterpump change when i fitted mine. had to fine time the pump by trial and error the normal timing pins in the engine are usually close enough , but I advanced the pump until it started to knock under hard load then backed it off until it was not present left it at that. I often wondered how it would have gone in the little Peugeot model . all that torque, a real flying machine and economy to boot .
@@mazdaman1286 yeah. Sounds like a hassle though. The Xantia has a really tight space to take off the timing belt.
Still, i believe it will be worth it. Mine has less than 100.000 miles on it, at 133.000 kms. Bought it for 1000 euros, form a car dealer that told me they got it from an old man who passed away in 2020. The service record is there too. Well maintained, looked almost brand new inside.
Only drawback is the power. Its turbocharged with a low pressure turbo (already turned it up, but at the cost of some fuel economy) and a pump without boost membrane and no intercooler. I plan on fitting an intercooler to it, which will increase power and maybe fuel economy too.
I will look into it. Right now financially i dont have it very well because of everything going on in the world right now. And the timingbelt was replaced at 132.000 kms
Very interesting video and discussion!
I have just secured a source for a small but steady flow of frier oil and now i'm looking into the best way for me to run my old Audi A4 1.9 tdi on this stuff.
I'd rather do mechanics than chemistry, so i would prefer to skip the methanol process if possible.
As kerosene starts at about €6 per litre here thats not an option either. 10% petrol seems very appealing (and cheap) though.
I'm thinking i should mount a separate tank with a preheater and run it's own line with pump/filter and a manual return shut off so oil and regular diesel dont mix, as if i where to run it on straight veggie oil. Most people here seem to go that way here and run the first and last kilometer on regular diesel.
straight up
petrol works as well, some where around 4 or 5 to 1 mix depending on ambient temps
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I used half kerosene and half veg oil runs great
But
Keep an eye on the engine oil it’s going to foul faster than normal and you might loose your savings in fuel on extra engine oil changes.
Finally doing wvo.
It's been filtered to one micron and spun in heated centerfuge
I added liter or 2 of gasoline and some acetone. Burning it now in my diesel heater
What I'll do differently tomorrow is stick the tank inside so it's not freezing and spin the fuel line once around exhaust pipe before going to the heater.
I read sometimes ago that the double bonds in the carboxylic acid chains cause polymerization in the combustion chamber, forming a gummy substance in cases of dilution approach for biodieseal..
Thank you for the video! How much would you say a liter cost to produce? Thanks!
Great video, easy to follow. Question - what type of generator is that and also type of car/truck you are running - is the car’s motor indirect diesel injection (pre 2000)?
You're wonderful.
You are a very good presenter. Does it effect seals or pipes of engine. 😊 Thanks.
Badass info tho man thnx
This system work with oil engine oil as well. I find Kerosene works the best with old engine oil 60% Kerosene and filter down to to .5 of a micron.
Good idea, if I want to make petrol, what is the the ratio and the process of making it. Thanks
Need your video as my survival guide
Need to feed also our Toyota Diesel SUV
Using the kerosene veg oil mix the glycerol remain in the mix right and olny mixing the oil with the methanol you could eliminate it, so, with the kerosene this separation doesn't happend so it remains in the mix and should burns all sprayed in the chamber am i right? I don't understand if this grycerol would cause some sort of problem to the engine, or the injector or whatever. Any experience using white spirit? An old top gear video shows how you can mix 97 part of oil and 3 part of white spirit to get yourself a well mixed biodiesel, i mean, olny 3% instead of 30 would be even cheaper.
So if I use a 50/50 mix of diesal from garage and veg oil from tesco would that be fine and will it be thin enough
Hi
Soo...weres the glycerol going in the kerosine and dieselmix?
I mean is that not getting sticky or something in filters?
Methanol really really loves water. I’d go with propanol. Burns cleaner too.
I have a 2010 focus 1.6 TDCI and have been putting Kerosene in my tank for the last 3 years. I fill up to 3/4 real diesel from empty and top it up to the brim with Kerosene. No problems whatsoever. I borrow the kerosen from my redundant heating tank where I work so it costs me nothing.
I've got a smaller farming operation in the US. I burn about 3500 gallons a year of red diesel. If I were to mix up a batch of say 500 gallons and stored it in tanks like I do with regular diesel will the kerosene separate from the oil or does it stay mixed. Need to know if I need to figure out a agitator system or not. Never done my own fuel before. Thanks
The original diesel engine was actually designed to burn peanut oil. So older diesel engine models without the electronics should be good running kerosene-thinned cooking oil.
Where did you get that water filter thing???
55 gallon drum 2 ribs on drum,fill to first rib with cooking oil,add off road diesel and top off drum..run it daily.
What you running?
FWIW, it is *VERY* simple and inexpensive to recover the methanol using vacuum distillation, leaving just glycerol/glycerin behind, which has a hundred different uses and can even be sold. (...and if you are going to be using WVO/WPO a lot, it pays off in the long run to get a heated centrifuge, as that can remove *ALL* of the particles *and* water.)
Yes, very useful info. Thanks Man. Keep it coming. Hope you're all doing well over there. (I'm in Oz a.k.a. Australia). Quite hot here, so viscosity is not so much of a problem, especially in the north. Have you looked into using a heat exchanger to pre-heat you veg oil before it hits the first filter? No expense at all after the initial setup. Basically you can run hot water from your engine block to do the heating of the veg oil. It only needs to come up to 60 degrees Celsius to be thin enough to inject without issue. I'm referring to cotton seed oil, by the way. The most common deep frier oil now used in Australia. Very low in trans fats, making it an excellent easy-to-use biofuel. Just filter it down to 1 micron, pour into tank, and away you go.
All you would need is just a diesel gas tank heater with a plug and you just warm it up before you leave
I agree heat exchanger is the most efficient because you already have the energy source/heat available to tap into, and divert it 👌
Most people that are seriously into the biodiesel thing here in the States use a preheater that works off the hot water from the radiator. Biodiesel was a big thing here about 12 years ago when the price of Diesel skyrocketed. You don't hear so much about it now. Another thing that slowed it down was the big companies that are buying the used veg oil from the restraunts now so it's harder to find. They use it in the production of dog food i'm told. BTW, Old Dodge 12 valve diesels and Old Mercedes Benz diesels are some of the best vehicles for Bio diesel / veg oil use. I sometimes believe those old Mercedes would run on water LOL
Any updates on this mate ? I'm in NSW
Hey Dude, I've come to decide that the cheapest quickest way into the bio-fuel arena is to simply add the filtered deep frier oil (filtered down to 2 microns, as per the vehicle manufacturers standards) to your fuel tank using a ratio of no more than 50/50 WVO (Waste Vegetable Oil) to Bowser diesel. What this will do is subsidise your fuel costs without the need to fit a second fuel system (which is costly in its own right, and it has hidden problems as well). By mixing 50/50 (at a max), this should, in a warm climate, have the viscosity problem remaining under control for your vehicle's injector pump to work normally and without issue. However, I would also recommend running every third or fourth tank full on pure bowser diesel only. This will ensure that the engine is cleaned from within regularly (bowser diesel has solvents) whilst still cutting your fuel bill considerably. I also run a full bottle of injector cleaner thru my bus engine twice a year. I also change the fuel filter once a year (easy job, look it up on youtube) and change the engine oil at the same time.
I hope this has been of some use to you. @@bigtrippy4970
I have to watch this again
Does it realy work
Hello sir
Thank you for such an informative and helpful video
I just want to ask if it's safe to use the mix of cerosine and veg oil in a heating stove
Hi good question I want to run a chinese deisel heater on this mix and wonder if this will be ok
Kind regards Keith from New Zealand
All of the used oils and hydraulic fluids I collect at home I catch as clean as possible in a catch can I keep sealed in double trash bags. When full, I pour the 15 qts into 5-qt oil jugs I save from new oil/fluid changes. I let the jugs sit for at least 90 days and then slowly pour off the top 4 quarts. The last quart has the settled solids or contamination in it.
I mix 3 gal of the clean used oil with gasoline nearly 1:1 in 5 gallon fuel cans and shake for 1 minute, and put two 5-gallons cans into a 3/4 full tank of diesel. My 2005 Ram diesel has a 40 gallon tank. This makes a mix of about 15% used oils. It seems to run fine Winter and Summer. I do change my fuel filter a little sooner than typical, about every 10,000 miles, rather than 15,000.
The dirty oil left in each jug i combine again and let settle another 90 days and repeat. The 2nd time I pour off the top and use the remainder as chain-lube and make two-cycle fuel for my chainsaw, and some start my wood boiler at night.
It's a cheap and easy way to get rid of collected fluids, have a little free fuel, and not waste anything either.
With the price out diesel right now. Might be a good idea to learn.
You can also do up a mix of 80% oil and 20% pure gum turpentine. Best to let it settle and filter it after just in case.
do you get the glycerol byproduct before or after burnin the wvo/methanol method?
Question:
If left stagnant, are there any issues with the mixture (diesel/oil, kerosene/oil) separating or settling out while sitting in the fuel tank? (eg.- non-operating/parked for a few days)
Thanks
You can also... add a heater to the system. But it does take some technical knowledge.
to make the veg oil thinner .. you just heat it . ur engine makes heat .... use that . ive driven millions of miles on straight heated veg .. just use diesel to start and finnish .
bravo
I've run 50% veg oil, 45% diesel and 5% petrol in a 2.5 litre 6 pot rotary injection pump '95 BMW turbodiesel car without any problems. Plus it smells like someone is cooking. Lovely.
- modern common rail diesels don't like veg oil as they run at much higher pressures, up to 5000psi.
Years ago when fuel was high,i had a mix that included gasoline, diesel clean in the silver bottle,cooking oil,,but I lost the book of the measurements. I have not been able to find it. Hope you can or someone can respond with that recipe.
Hello how are you
Thanks for creating work
I looking for mix wite siprit with recycle oil .
But i don't who ae percent to oile with 1 liter
Can you help me about this way
And thanks
Great video my friend🙌🙌. There’s a lot of folks out there saying never to run common rails with any of this wonderful stuff. But you’re running your generator which is a common rail? And have had no issues?
I know this is a long shot question. Do you know of anyone running their 2004 1.9DCI Nissan Primastar (same as Vauxhall Vivaro or Renault Trafic) Which is fitted with the Renault F9Q engine on any of these great alternative fuels? Any information greatly received😀
i think they mean that you should not pour the thick used vegetable oil directly to the fuel tank, it is better to thin it out by turpentine, diesel, thinner, kerosene, white spirit etc. It will be fine.
Hiya mate, nice video. Where do you get your filter bags are what are they traditionally used for. Struggling to find 1 and 10 micron filters the size of yours. Any help appreciated 🙏
Just looked on ebay 👌
Methanol doesnt thin it, it removes soap (glycerol) and it must be washed out as methanol will bugger your engine
Can this work with CP3 injection pumps. Most diesels 2003 to 2015 use CP3 pumps...thank you. New subscriber from the States : )
I'm in Canada caracine is expensive here I use gasoline to thin my veg oil for my 2003 1.9 TDI Volkswagen ratio depends on temperature summertime maybe 10% Gas or petrol as you call it. Winter time up to 30-40% Gas
What temps were you seeing in the winter? I want to run a healthy wvo/gasoline mix through my powerstroke but 30% gasoline seems like a lot to me.
2:14 I smacked my screen hard when the mosquito gets in it lol
After it goes through the 60w filter what’s the water filter and pulp plz?
Do u have a link to the fish tank filter
Can you use any kind of diesel to mix the veg oil
tyvm
Then was the sense of making bio diesel if you mix it with regular diesel
Have you got a link for the filters 👍
Thanks a lot, great explanation!! But i have a question: i have a barrel of kitchen used oil, but it is very old (about 3 years). Can I still transform It? Thanks again!
My first batch 50 50 mix was oil that was about 2 years old before I filtered it and it worked fine 👌
@@FieldtoFarm_UK ok, I'll try! Thanks!
Does it have to be old cooking oil or can I use new? And will my van still run okay
Alright, will this work inside of a Antonov 2 biplane as fuel?
Are the to filters you use removing the fats or are you just burning it?
Nice vid. Have you tried gas? I've read 80/20 gas in some places. Kerosone sounds interesting. Have you ran that or the 5050 diesel in cold temps?
You don't want to use gas. It washes the oil off of the cylinder walls and that's not good. I have known people to run 10% gas in the coldest days of winter to keep the Diesel from freezing but it's not a good long term solution.
How does each bio diesel effect the mileage compared to pump diesel?
Hello I enjoyed your videos except for one thing you didn't explain how you separated the water. or where you got the filter you used, or how you made it if that is what you did. Is there a filter on the market to do this? It would be great if you could let us know thank you very much
I didn't take the water out
Not sure it was answered in the vid. If so, i must have missed it. Sorry.
Using red diesel, would it still be illegal to use on road.....?
I have a 250hp Hyundai seasall marine diesel machine. Can I refuel the vegetable oil used for it mixed with diesel? Here in Finland, diesel is absolutely pig expensive at 2,5€/L and the tank is about 275L.
Can i 50/50 vegetable oil and kerosene to use in my indoor kerosene heater with out smoking or excess carbon on wick
Can diesel run on oily hand sanitizer? Such as hands sanitizer with aloe vera oil.
Does this just work with in Diesel engines and would this work in a generator?
Will it work on 2017 Renault Clio?
filtration can be used agro film which is used to protect plants from frost it is the cheapest filter. The film comes in 17g; 30g; For 50g / M2 thickness standards, density can be selected or a double layer can be used. It is possible to filter not only during fuel production but also before filling into the fuel tank.
Is agro film a brand name or something? Never heard of it.
Does the not need to be processed like in other videos, where they heat the oil then filter.
Would this be safe for use on my diesel sub?
This is a really good video however if I’m trying to get 250000 more miles out of my excursion I’m more concerned about the long term impact of your 50/50 mix if you can possibly speak to that. Thanks!